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Ok the Categories are up! They can be found in the Official rules thread. Plan as much as you like, but remember, NO BUILDING UNTIL THE 5th OF APRIL.

EDIT: What do you think of another category? its called Monochrome Mech.
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| March 19, 2010, 11:40 am
Quoting Mech Man
Ok the Categories are up! They can be found in the Official rules thread. Plan as much as you like, but remember, NO BUILDING UNTIL THE 5th OF APRIL.


I wish I could start building today, its given me some great ideas... *sigh* Oh well.
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| March 19, 2010, 11:48 am
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Quoting Flaré .

I wish I could start building today, its given me some great ideas... *sigh* Oh well.


Well, sorry, it would be unfair, and Remember I k know ere you live, XD
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| March 19, 2010, 11:50 am
Quoting Mech Man

Well, sorry, it would be unfair, and Remember I k know ere you live, XD


I know that.

Orly? SO where do I live?
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| March 19, 2010, 11:51 am
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Quoting Flaré .

I know that.

Orly? SO where do I live?



Down across the street a minute ago, oh wait a sec wrong person XD
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| March 19, 2010, 11:53 am
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the categories look great! im excited to see what people come up with. might I suggest we form a group for the judges of the contest, that is exclusive to the judges? This is not so that we can feel all cool and special and talk bad abou the builders behind their backs. Just so we can discuss details of the competition without giving away hints to the competitors?
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| March 19, 2010, 12:37 pm
Quoting Mech Man


Down across the street a minute ago, oh wait a sec wrong person XD

XD XD XD
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| March 19, 2010, 12:40 pm
I can't wait! I've got ideas now. And really? An Exo Force theme? That's awesome!
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| March 19, 2010, 1:57 pm
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I like the categories so far, however I do have a particular concern. The categories Classic Mech and Gigantor Galore both require that the piece count must be under 600 and over 600 respectively. I did not however see any requirement for some sort of picture that requires that entries in those two categories have pictures of all of the pieces laid out. While I am not trying to insinuate anything, it does provide an opportunity for the category rules to be fudged. Furthermore, it would be hard for the judges to make an appropriate estimate of the number of pieces in a mech if it has an amount of pieces that borderlines on 600 (like if it had 570 or 630 pieces). Ultimately, that could very well be the difference between a DQ or a 5.

I think that instead, the mechs should be measured in height in metric units (or imperial units even). It would be much less of a hassle than taking apart an MOC and laying out all of the pieces.
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| March 19, 2010, 3:28 pm
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Quoting Jason Dominguez
I can't wait! I've got ideas now. And really? An Exo Force theme? That's awesome!


Glad your excited!

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| March 19, 2010, 3:35 pm
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Quoting Mr. Rahkshi8000
I like the categories so far, however I do have a particular concern. The categories Classic Mech and Gigantor Galore both require that the piece count must be under 600 and over 600 respectively. I did not however see any requirement for some sort of picture that requires that entries in those two categories have pictures of all of the pieces laid out. While I am not trying to insinuate anything, it does provide an opportunity for the category rules to be fudged. Furthermore, it would be hard for the judges to make an appropriate estimate of the number of pieces in a mech if it has an amount of pieces that borderlines on 600 (like if it had 570 or 630 pieces). Ultimately, that could very well be the difference between a DQ or a 5.

I think that instead, the mechs should be measured in height in metric units (or imperial units even). It would be much less of a hassle than taking apart an MOC and laying out all of the pieces.



The point I have tried to make clear is it doesnt have to be exactly that many pieces, its just a pretty good estimate, what do you think, if you want a picture requiring them to take a picture thats fine.
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| March 20, 2010, 6:11 pm
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The problem is that it becomes extremely hard or even impossible to estimate the number of pieces when it has a number of pieces that is near 600. A 5 point worthy MOC in Classic Mech could have 599 pieces, but be unfairly DQ'ed simply if all the judges estimated wrong and incorrectly say it's over 600.

I would rather have it that people have to measure the height and width of the mech in centimeters. Then we can simply set the parameters for what dimensions a "Classic Mech" entry would have and what dimensions a "Gigantor Galore" entry would have.

It would take too much time and energy on the judges' part to count hundreds of pieces over and over again, and I'm sure it would be a pain for players to try and lay out hundreds of pieces.
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| March 20, 2010, 8:48 pm
Im with Mr. Rahkshi on this one. 600 parts is quite much. Though it is possible to build something with 600 parts and not know it, Taking it apart to find out the exact amount would be a pain.
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| March 20, 2010, 10:45 pm
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Quoting Mr. Rahkshi8000
The problem is that it becomes extremely hard or even impossible to estimate the number of pieces when it has a number of pieces that is near 600. A 5 point worthy MOC in Classic Mech could have 599 pieces, but be unfairly DQ'ed simply if all the judges estimated wrong and incorrectly say it's over 600.

I would rather have it that people have to measure the height and width of the mech in centimeters. Then we can simply set the parameters for what dimensions a "Classic Mech" entry would have and what dimensions a "Gigantor Galore" entry would have.

It would take too much time and energy on the judges' part to count hundreds of pieces over and over again, and I'm sure it would be a pain for players to try and lay out hundreds of pieces.


Point taken, but I have one question, what if the mech is not very tall, but it uses lots of pieces? Just gives you something to think about, though if you give me a set of requirements, then I will put them in the Rules thread.
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| March 21, 2010, 1:42 am
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Well, we don't have to use height or width, weight in kilograms is another option too.
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| March 21, 2010, 6:31 pm
Quoting Mr. Rahkshi8000
Well, we don't have to use height or width, weight in kilograms is another option too.


What if some people can't weigh things in kilograms *cough*ahem*cough*
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| March 21, 2010, 8:06 pm
Quoting Flaré .

What if some people can't weigh things in kilograms *cough*ahem*cough*

convert to pounds
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| March 21, 2010, 8:09 pm
Quoting Jake H.
convert to pounds


What if people don't have accurate scales *cough* *cough*
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| March 21, 2010, 8:52 pm
Quoting Flaré .

What if people don't have accurate scales *cough* *cough*

good point, I think height's the best idea.
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| March 21, 2010, 8:54 pm
sweeeeet. i am so going to make a mech on the NPM catagory (non pioleted mech). its time to put all my mini mech making skills to a test(well not exactly now i still have to wait). oh and also make an awsome discription.
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| March 21, 2010, 9:56 pm
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Quoting Mr. Rahkshi8000
Well, we don't have to use height or width, weight in kilograms is another option too.


Hey R8, if you have the time could you weigh Six hundred Pieces and then post the weight here?

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| March 22, 2010, 2:57 am
Quoting Mech Man

Hey R8, if you have the time could you weigh Six hundred Pieces and then post the weight here?


Hahaa.

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| March 22, 2010, 8:33 am
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Quoting Flaré .

Hahaa.



What?
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| March 22, 2010, 10:28 am
Quoting Mech Man


What?


Oh were you being serious??
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| March 22, 2010, 10:48 am
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Quoting Flaré .

Oh were you being serious??



Uhhh, Yes
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| March 22, 2010, 10:58 am
Quoting Mech Man


Uhhh, Yes

Different pieces will have different weights. If you used 600 plates that would weigh less than 600 bricks. Know what I mean?
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| March 22, 2010, 11:28 am
Quoting MOODSWIM <>
Different pieces will have different weights. If you used 600 plates that would weigh less than 600 bricks. Know what I mean?

I think you guys are getting too complicated. I say just have builders give a rough guesstimate of how many pieces they use. You can tell from photos roughly how many pieces are used.
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| March 22, 2010, 11:40 am
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Quoting MOODSWIM <>
I think you guys are getting too complicated. I say just have builders give a rough guesstimate of how many pieces they use. You can tell from photos roughly how many pieces are used.


agreed. as a matter of fact, i think only one category even HAS a size requirement (maybe two...). We'll keep the method that mechman originally outlined (judgement based on piece count). We don't need people getting out conversion charts and scales and going all crazy on it.

I would suggest actually pulling out 600 pieces just to see what that looks like and give yourself a rough guide as to how your mech should look. we won't make you actually count your pieces and such

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| March 22, 2010, 11:45 am
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after looking over the categories, here's where we stand on size requirements:

the classic mech must be under 600 pcs

the gigantor mech must be over 600 pcs

it's that simple. no weighing, measuring, converting kg to pounds (are any of us european here, anyway?)

just go to your brick box and pull out 600 pieces to see what you have to work with. Or, easier yet, just keep a rough count as your build. as long as your mech looks to be over/under 600 pcs, you're fine. don't take them apart and lay all the pieces out - that's unnecessary. we judges know what 600 pcs looks like.

does that make everyone's life a bit easier?
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| March 22, 2010, 11:59 am
When we post a creation in the future, do we select to catergory or do we say what catergory we are using?
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| March 25, 2010, 9:26 am
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Quoting Lionytai Holmes
When we post a creation in the future, do we select to catergory or do we say what catergory we are using?



Just say which one
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| March 25, 2010, 10:57 am
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