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Do you think Titanic might have had some flaws built into it?
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I think that maby part of the disaster was caused by humans.
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| January 26, 2009, 9:12 pm
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Quoting Thomas N
That is partly true, They were going much too fast trying to set a new speed record for crossing the Atlantic.

Thats true.And the metal that they used was the least floatable.
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| January 26, 2009, 9:38 pm
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And I saw the documentary and they put the ingenes in reverse when they were trying to miss the iceburge...Ahhh,but then titanic turned left and you know what happens when you do that?Right?
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| January 26, 2009, 9:43 pm
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Quoting Thomas N
plus poor quality rivets made for bad seams along the edges of metal plates.

Well,true.
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| January 26, 2009, 9:43 pm
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Quoting Thomas N
Yes, when they turned the side swiped the ice burg and put a huge gash in the side, if the had hit it head on, it would have obliterated the bow, but it would only flood one compartment, and they would have stayed afloat until they reached port.

Correct but they were practically batteling the turn left.When they were trying to back up Titanic it was still moving foward without the engines pushing.When you back up a boat the bow goes right and the stern goes left.See what i'm trying to get at?They were still drifting foward and trying to back up and the stern was heading left and the bow was heading right.
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| January 26, 2009, 10:00 pm
Hi, everybody

Thanks for the invite. I have several books on the Titannic, so I will add some info. The mail room flooded because it was below the waterline and one of the sections breached by the iceburg. As for the engines they were full astern (reverse). The rudder was hard to starboard (right). The problem was in the rudder design, and they new about it after sea trials, that she turned slow. Not really a defect just a quork of the ship.
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| February 1, 2009, 8:44 pm
The above manuever acts like a brake, and makes the bow swing to port (left). I have done this in my own boat and it does work. I have seen the documentries, and I wonder about a head on collision too. As iceburgs are larger under the water than what you see above, the damage to the keel still may have cause the same result.
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| February 1, 2009, 9:21 pm
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Quoting Ken Osbon
The above manuever acts like a brake, and makes the bow swing to port (left). I have done this in my own boat and it does work. I have seen the documentries, and I wonder about a head on collision too. As iceburgs are larger under the water than what you see above, the damage to the keel still may have cause the same result.

Woa! I never new some of that.Yes the watertight compartments cold only hold 4 breached and it was five.If it would have crashed head on it will obliterate the bow breaching the first few compartments,beter than five.But the capt. would have sacrificed some civilians.
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| February 2, 2009, 8:10 pm
Putting the ship on reverse just made it slow down. But you can't turn a ship on reverse. It was both Smith's and Murdoch's fault, of going to fast and going on reverse.
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| May 27, 2009, 7:54 pm
Quoting Maxime MaxSamAlex
Putting the ship on reverse just made it slow down. But you can't turn a ship on reverse.


As ships do not have a brake petal, thats the only way to slow down and large ships do not turn on a dime, even with modern bow thrusters at speed.
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| May 27, 2009, 9:24 pm
A logic way would have been to turn without going on reverse. The ship would have had much less damage.
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| May 28, 2009, 7:50 pm
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