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| April 18, 2010, 5:18 pm
 Group admin 
Indeed. Since I'm an admin, I guess it's my job to help Cliffe help you. Gather round kids, it's time to learn...
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| April 18, 2010, 5:23 pm
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G'mornin'. Or, going by the timestamp, g'evenin'.

Eh, well.



And, quick question, some people seem to have a lot more territory than would be fair. Why exactly is that? That maroon bit on Canada being the most obvious offender.
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| April 18, 2010, 6:34 pm
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Quoting Areetsa C
G'mornin'. Or, going by the timestamp, g'evenin'.

Eh, well.



And, quick question, some people seem to have a lot more territory than would be fair. Why exactly is that? That maroon bit on Canada being the most obvious offender.



Well, let's ask Cliffe about that.
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| April 18, 2010, 6:42 pm
 Group admin 
The PCU mainly has lots of land because that was our original land. Same for Weagle. If it's not fair, all you gotta do is take the land via conquest, or trade.
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| April 18, 2010, 6:55 pm
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Quoting Awesome-o-saurus The Not-So-Great


Well, let's ask Cliffe about that.


http://www.flickr.com/photos/thenotsogreat/4527287738/

Upper left, can't miss it. Takes up a quarter of the continent.

That's the most recent map, so it would appear that that's the current territory. Not sure who owns it, but there's definitely something wrong there.
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| April 18, 2010, 6:56 pm
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Quoting Nick Shelton
The PCU mainly has lots of land because that was our original land. Same for Weagle. If it's not fair, all you gotta do is take the land via conquest, or trade.


In the first game, perhaps. So, I should collect the rest of Siberia, then, to be fair? Don't think so. It hardly seems reasonable to carry over territory from the end of the last round.


If that's how it works, I'll have Australia, thanks.
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| April 18, 2010, 7:00 pm
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Quoting Areetsa C

In the first game, perhaps. So, I should collect the rest of Siberia, then, to be fair? Don't think so. It hardly seems reasonable to carry over territory from the end of the last round.

If that's how it works, I'll have Australia as well, thanks.

It's not fair to make outrageous claims like that. Just because others have large amounts of land, doesn't mean that you have to go take every single bit of land. The bigger your land, the more stretched your army is.


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| April 18, 2010, 7:02 pm
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Quoting Nick Shelton
It's not fair to make outrageous claims like that. Just because others have large amounts of land, doesn't mean that you have to go take every single bit of land. The bigger your land, the more stretched your army is.


Actually, yes I do. Larger territory = larger army, more resources = faster expansion.

I've seen the impact fast expansion early on has on the mid and late game situation.

As it is, your territory that you've carried over from the previous game is twice the size of any other.
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| April 18, 2010, 7:05 pm
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@Areesta: My land is big mainly because of expansion early on, correct.
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| April 18, 2010, 7:07 pm
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Quoting Nick Shelton
@Areesta: My land is big mainly because of expansion early on, correct.


Early expansion in the previous game, which you've carried over because:

Quoting Nick Shelton
I'm still using PCU, for I take no heed from rules.


Sound familiar?
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| April 18, 2010, 7:11 pm
Quoting Areetsa C
G'mornin'. Or, going by the timestamp, g'evenin'.

Eh, well.



And, quick question, some people seem to have a lot more territory than would be fair. Why exactly is that? That maroon bit on Canada being the most obvious offender.

That would be Osea- the great country of Admiral A.C. Weagle.

It, like the PCU and Prusso-Egypt, are carrying over from RA-CAS-UEN, so they get to keep their original territory, although Osea actually used to also have Greenland(not that that's any use, lolz).

But worry not mate, you have more room to expand than anyone could ever dream of.
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| April 18, 2010, 7:31 pm
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Like I said Areetsa, if you have a problem with this (which you do), we can take it to Cliffe. In fact, when he sees this, he'll probably make a decision on it. After all, I'm starting out pretty small too.

Oh, Canada is not America. America has 300 million people. Canada has 34 million people. What also has that many people? Algeria and Uganda. Neither of them are uber powerful.

My territories have... Greece has 11 million, Turkey has 73 million. Whoa. Plus the 20 years... I have like 85 million people. Gee. That's a lot more than big, quarter continent spanning Canada.
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| April 18, 2010, 7:33 pm
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Quoting Awesome-o-saurus The Not-So-Great
Like I said Areetsa, if you have a problem with this (which you do), we can take it to Cliffe. In fact, when he sees this, he'll probably make a decision on it. After all, I'm starting out pretty small too.

Oh, Canada is not America. America has 300 million people. Canada has 34 million people. What also has that many people? Algeria and Uganda. Neither of them are uber powerful.

My territories have... Greece has 11 million, Turkey has 73 million. Whoa. Plus the 20 years... I have like 85 million people. Gee. That's a lot more than big, quarter continent spanning Canada.


Well, from what I've heard, Canada is quite rich in minerals.

Or something like that. Geography isn't my field of expertise.

I'm going to see if I can track down the original group. There must be a rulesheet somewhere.
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| April 18, 2010, 7:41 pm
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So, you made this topic.... now what?
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| April 18, 2010, 7:45 pm
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Quoting Areetsa C

Early expansion in the previous game, which you've carried over because:

Quoting Nick Shelton
I'm still using PCU, for I take no heed from rules.


Sound familiar?

The second statement made by me that you quoted was a joke. The first was the real deal.

I carried over all of my territory from RA-CAS-UEN because Cliffe did too.
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| April 18, 2010, 7:52 pm
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Quoting Nick Shelton
The second statement made by me that you quoted was a joke. The first was the real deal.

I carried over all of my territory from RA-CAS-UEN because Cliffe did too.


Cliffe's isn't nearly as big.
Assuming any of these maps are correct, which probably isn't true.
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| April 18, 2010, 8:13 pm
Eh, well, I'm a bit new to this, so, yeah.
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| April 18, 2010, 8:29 pm
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Quoting Griffin Matthews
Eh, well, I'm a bit new to this, so, yeah.

I'll help ya Griffin.
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| April 18, 2010, 10:03 pm
Quoting Griffin Matthews
Eh, well, I'm a bit new to this, so, yeah.

"A bit" new? I'd say you're about as green as that apple.

In any case WELCOME! Thank you for joining! Please stay in this forum until your training is complete. Then you will be ready to dive into the "real" world.
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| April 18, 2010, 10:19 pm
/Trains
How's that for training?
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| April 19, 2010, 4:13 pm
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This all happens in real time people, please remember that. If it can happen out there, it can happen here. Take over a country by force? Be prepared to spend a few months fighting there. Take it by diplomacy? Get ready for a few weeks of paperwork.

And remember, what if someone comes to your country and asks you to join under their rule? Will you say yes or no? Most of the time, the answer will probably be no. Therefore, things like "Another nation has decided to join X today despite the human drive for independence and power..." or "X has taken over Y with absolutely no violence from any of the millions of different-thinking people that live there" are frowned upon by me. Sure, you can do it, but only where it makes sense.

So China isn't just going to join up with your nation. Powerful nations don't roll over. An impoverished and small nation like Lesotho could, but even then, there will probably by resistors.

Keep in mind that this has a degree of realism, please.
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| April 19, 2010, 7:17 pm
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'Ello, y'all. Rules tell me that I'm supposed to do something in here. Anybody know what it is?
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| April 19, 2010, 9:01 pm
How do you add non-player territorys to your side?
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| April 19, 2010, 10:01 pm
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Quoting Finn C-Q
How do you add non-player territorys to your side?

Diplomacy or invasion
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| April 19, 2010, 10:22 pm
Quoting John Dawn
Diplomacy or invasion

Both
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| April 19, 2010, 11:04 pm
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Quoting Finn C-Q
Both

depends on your tactics
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| April 19, 2010, 11:10 pm
Quoting John Dawn
depends on your tactics

Calm, and modest diplomic-like for both.
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| April 19, 2010, 11:19 pm
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If the present day country would accept your offer then they could join, but take into consideration: your govt. type, their govt. type, religion, economy, military, location, etc.
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| April 19, 2010, 11:31 pm
Quoting John Dawn
If the present day country would accept your offer then they could join, but take into consideration: your govt. type, their govt. type, religion, economy, military, location, etc.
Well, most are fairally small, so I would not really worrie too too much

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| April 20, 2010, 12:05 am
Quoting John Dawn
If the present day country would accept your offer then they could join, but take into consideration: your govt. type, their govt. type, religion, economy, military, location, etc.

On another note, I have not officially declaired war on you.
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| April 20, 2010, 12:18 am
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Quoting Finn C-Q
Quoting John Dawn
If the present day country would accept your offer then they could join, but take into consideration: your govt. type, their govt. type, religion, economy, military, location, etc.
Well, most are fairally small, so I would not really worrie too too much


The Baltic states of Estonia, Latvia, and Lithuania have a long history of being dominated by autocratic powers. Read the history on them, they were the first to leave the Soviet Union, if I'm correct, and they resisted both the Germans and the Russians for years, some individuals holding out for forty or more years in the forests. Just saying, but they're not being dominated against without a fight, if history has anything to tell us.

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| April 20, 2010, 12:51 am
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Quoting Awesome-o-saurus The Not-So-Great

The Baltic states of Estonia, Latvia, and Lithuania have a long history of being dominated by autocratic powers. Read the history on them, they were the first to leave the Soviet Union, if I'm correct, and they resisted both the Germans and the Russians for years, some individuals holding out for forty or more years in the forests. Just saying, but they're not being dominated against without a fight, if history has anything to tell us.


Also, Germany managed to hold out against the rest of Europe for five years- twice.

Oh, and the oh-so-mighty You-neeted stayets of Merka.
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| April 20, 2010, 1:15 am
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Quoting Areetsa C

Also, Germany managed to hold out against the rest of Europe for five years- twice.

Oh, and the oh-so-mighty You-neeted stayets of Merka.


Why the double post of the same thing?

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| April 20, 2010, 1:22 am
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Quoting Awesome-o-saurus The Not-So-Great

Why the double post of the same thing?


I believe the technical term is "latency".
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| April 20, 2010, 1:30 am
Quoting Awesome-o-saurus The Not-So-Great

The Baltic states of Estonia, Latvia, and Lithuania have a long history of being dominated by autocratic powers. Read the history on them, they were the first to leave the Soviet Union, if I'm correct, and they resisted both the Germans and the Russians for years, some individuals holding out for forty or more years in the forests. Just saying, but they're not being dominated against without a fight, if history has anything to tell us.

One thing diplomatic procediures are good for.
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| April 20, 2010, 8:11 am
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Quoting Finn C-Q
One thing diplomatic procediures are good for.


I'm afraid diplomacy will not make Eastern Europe return to autocracy and fascism willingly, not after Germany and the USSR. It's time to use the gun bro.
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| April 20, 2010, 10:45 am
Quoting Awesome-o-saurus The Not-So-Great

I'm afraid diplomacy will not make Eastern Europe return to autocracy and fascism willingly, not after Germany and the USSR. It's time to use the gun bro.

*Ban hammer
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| April 20, 2010, 5:12 pm
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Mine presence hath been stated

Also, I think I understand the rules. This is a real time strategy, not like other things. Not going to make the mistake someone else seems to have made. Although if you think otherwise that I still need to learn things, be my guest.


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| April 21, 2010, 2:42 am
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