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This is the place to write your military power.Start from the army, airforce and navy. Remember to do some research on your country military powers(2010)first, since this group is all about realistic.
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| April 23, 2010, 10:50 pm
Quoting Ryan Blackout
This is the place to write your military power.Start from the army, airforce and navy. Remember to do some research on your country military powers(2010)first, since this group is all about realistic.

I will probably have to add up all my country's power.
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| April 24, 2010, 12:04 am
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ARMY:

2,500,000 million active
1,000,000 reserve units

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| April 24, 2010, 12:35 am
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Well, this will take some work. My original area had some pretty populated areas, and I'm nearly tripling my territory currently. Plus volunteers from West Virginia...Yeah.
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| April 24, 2010, 1:46 am
Norway- 3,876,493

Commander-in-Chief
King Harald V
Minister of Defence
Grete Faremo
Chief of Staff
General Harald Sunde

Navy-
Notable
commanders
Peter Tordenskjold
Cort Adeler
Niels Juel
Lauritz Galtung
Kristoffer Throndsen
Henrik Bjelke
Airforce-
Current
commander Major General Stein Erik Nodeland
(1 October 2004 - present)[1]
Ceremonial chief Harald V of Norway


Swedish Army total- 7,505,858

Minister for Defence Sten Tolgfors
Supreme Commander General Sverker Göranson
Director General Ulf Bengtsson

Air force-
Current
commander Major General Anders Silwer
Navy-
Current
commander Rear Admiral Anders Grenstad

Finland- 4,019,329
Commander-in-Chief Tarja Halonen
Minister for Defence Jyri Häkämies
Chief of Defence General Ari Puheloinen

Navy-
Commander Vice-Admiral Juha Rannikko

Airforce-
Commander Major General Jarmo Lindberg
Denmarck- 2,365,038
Commander-in-Chief Queen Margrethe II
Defence Minister Gitte Lillelund Bech (Venstre)
Chief of Defence General Knud Bartels

Navy-
acting Chief of Defence Lieutenant General Bjørn Ingemann Bisserup
Chief of Admiral Danish Fleet Rear Admiral Nils Christian Wang
Notable
commanders Peter Tordenskjold

Airforce-
acting Chief of Defence Lieutenant General Bjørn Ingemann Bisserup
Chief of Tactical Air Command Major General Henrik Røboe Dam


So, in total,

9,874,772
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| April 24, 2010, 1:11 pm
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Here's the UAC armed forces as of 2010, plus the things I've bought and are not in active service yet:

UAC Air Force:

USEABLE AIRCRAFT OF THE YEMENI AIR FORCE:
44MiG-27
44MiG-29
45 F-5 Tiger
36 Antonov transports
10 C-130 Hercules
27 MiL-24 Hind

USEABLE AIRCRAFT OF THE ROYAL AIRFORCE OF OMAN:
3 C-130
12 F-16C/D Fighting Falcon
18 SPECAT Jaguar (attack aircraft)

USEABLE AIRCRAFT OF THE ROYAL SAUDI AIRFORCE:
12 AH-64 Apache
30 MiL-24 Hind
13 Oh-58 Kiowa
5 E-3 Sentry
57F-15C
25F-15D
72 Eurofighter Typhoon
71 F-15D Strike Eagle
8 Boeing KE-3A Refueling aircraft
42 C-130
110 F-5 Tiger
87 Panavia Tornado ground attack
24 Panavia Tornado fighter
30 UH-60 Black Hawks

PURCHASED FROM PCU OR RUSSIA:
50 F/A-38A Jaegers
50 F/A-38B Strike Jaegers
32 AH-64 Apaches
72 Su-51s
20 Ka-65s
84 Tu-225
44 A-10s
TOTAL NUMBERS OF THE U.A.C. AIRFORCE:
Fighters:
82 F-15 C/D Eagles
44 MiG-29s
155 F-5 Tigers
12 F-16 Fighting Falcons
44 MiG-27s
72 Eurofighter Typhoons
24 Panavia Tornado fighters
50 F/A-38 Jaegers, awaiting arrival
72 Su-51s, awaiting arrival
Attack Aircraft:
18 SPECAT Jaguar
71 F-15D Strike Eagle
87 Panavia Tornado
50 F/A-38 Strike Jaegers, awaiting arrival
84 Tu-225s, awaiting arrival
44 A-10 Thunderbolt II Awaiting arrival from PCU
Helicopters:
57 MiL-24 Hind
44 AH-64 Apaches, awaiting arrival on 32.
13 OH-58 Kiowa
30 UH-60 Black Hawk
20 KA-65s, awaiting arrival

Other Aircraft:
55 C-130
36 Antonov transport aircraft
5 E-3 Sentry AWACs
8 Boeing KE-3A Refueling aircraft

Other helicopter and light transports that I deemed not worth counting.

UAC Army:

Saudi Arabia
150,000 active troops
317 M1A1 (Or M1A2) Abrams
150 T-90 Russian Tanks
320 AMX-30 French Tanks
460 M-60A-1 Patton MBTs (United States)
400M2A2 Bradley APCs (United States)
1500+ Humvee
250 Russian BMP-3
3,000 American M113
702 large artillery
Assorted small armored cars and out-dated personnel carriers

Yemen
66,000 troops
240 M-60A-1 Patton
31 T-80
670 American M113
1,200+ Artillery

Oman
79 M60 Patton
~100 Artillery

TOTAL ARMY OF THE UAC:
216,000 active troops
779 M-60A-1 Patton Main Battle Tanks
317 M1A1 Abrams
150 T-90 Russian Main Battle Tanks
320 AMX-30 Main Battle Tanks
31 T-80 Russian Main Battle Tanks
1500+ Humvee
400M2A2 Bradley APC
250 Russian BMP-3
3,670 American M113
Approximately 2,100 Artillery

To be purchased from Russia, 250 T-98 Heavy Tanks. I need to post them on MOCpages before I purchase them. They can be found on Flickr.

This has taken about two hours so far, so I'm not doin' the Navy yet.

Due to our relatively small Infantry numbers, the UAC has offered increased benefits to soldiers, in hope of bribing more recruits into joining.
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| April 24, 2010, 1:46 pm
Quoting Finn C-Q
Norway- 3,876,493

Commander-in-Chief
King Harald V
Minister of Defence
Grete Faremo
Chief of Staff
General Harald Sunde

Navy-
Notable
commanders
Peter Tordenskjold
Cort Adeler
Niels Juel
Lauritz Galtung
Kristoffer Throndsen
Henrik Bjelke
Airforce-
Current
commander Major General Stein Erik Nodeland
(1 October 2004 - present)[1]
Ceremonial chief Harald V of Norway


Swedish Army total- 7,505,858

Minister for Defence Sten Tolgfors
Supreme Commander General Sverker Göranson
Director General Ulf Bengtsson

Air force-
Current
commander Major General Anders Silwer
Navy-
Current
commander Rear Admiral Anders Grenstad

Finland- 4,019,329
Commander-in-Chief Tarja Halonen
Minister for Defence Jyri Häkämies
Chief of Defence General Ari Puheloinen

Navy-
Commander Vice-Admiral Juha Rannikko

Airforce-
Commander Major General Jarmo Lindberg
Denmarck- 2,365,038
Commander-in-Chief Queen Margrethe II
Defence Minister Gitte Lillelund Bech (Venstre)
Chief of Defence General Knud Bartels

Navy-
acting Chief of Defence Lieutenant General Bjørn Ingemann Bisserup
Chief of Admiral Danish Fleet Rear Admiral Nils Christian Wang
Notable
commanders Peter Tordenskjold

Airforce-
acting Chief of Defence Lieutenant General Bjørn Ingemann Bisserup
Chief of Tactical Air Command Major General Henrik Røboe Dam


So, in total,

9,874,772

No, no, no. There are not enough people in Norway to make an army 4 million strong. You've got this all wrong Finn. You picked countries that have some of the smallest armies ever, I'd say at max your army could be 1.5 million, at max. That's just based off of the fact that the largest army out of all those countries in the real world is 350,000 reservists.
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| April 24, 2010, 1:47 pm
Quoting Finn C-Q
Norway- 3,876,493

Commander-in-Chief
King Harald V
Minister of Defence
Grete Faremo
Chief of Staff
General Harald Sunde

Navy-
Notable
commanders
Peter Tordenskjold
Cort Adeler
Niels Juel
Lauritz Galtung
Kristoffer Throndsen
Henrik Bjelke
Airforce-
Current
commander Major General Stein Erik Nodeland
(1 October 2004 - present)[1]
Ceremonial chief Harald V of Norway


Swedish Army total- 7,505,858

Minister for Defence Sten Tolgfors
Supreme Commander General Sverker Göranson
Director General Ulf Bengtsson

Air force-
Current
commander Major General Anders Silwer
Navy-
Current
commander Rear Admiral Anders Grenstad

Finland- 4,019,329
Commander-in-Chief Tarja Halonen
Minister for Defence Jyri Häkämies
Chief of Defence General Ari Puheloinen

Navy-
Commander Vice-Admiral Juha Rannikko

Airforce-
Commander Major General Jarmo Lindberg
Denmarck- 2,365,038
Commander-in-Chief Queen Margrethe II
Defence Minister Gitte Lillelund Bech (Venstre)
Chief of Defence General Knud Bartels

Navy-
acting Chief of Defence Lieutenant General Bjørn Ingemann Bisserup
Chief of Admiral Danish Fleet Rear Admiral Nils Christian Wang
Notable
commanders Peter Tordenskjold

Airforce-
acting Chief of Defence Lieutenant General Bjørn Ingemann Bisserup
Chief of Tactical Air Command Major General Henrik Røboe Dam


So, in total,

9,874,772

Plus, you're terrible at math, that's over 17.5 million, that's eight time bigger than China's current army, I really suggest you refine it to 1-1.5 million. Europeans are too liberal to have armies that big.
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| April 24, 2010, 1:53 pm
You are really bad at math too, thats 17.5 million not 9 million, that like eight of China's armies. I really suggest you refine it t0 1-1.5 million.
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| April 24, 2010, 1:56 pm
Quoting Will Gober
No, no, no. There are not enough people in Norway to make an army 4 million strong. You've got this all wrong Finn. You picked countries that have some of the smallest armies ever, I'd say at max your army could be 1.5 million, at max. That's just based off of the fact that the largest army out of all those countries in the real world is 350,000 reservists.

I looked at a real count of it here, look- http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Norwegian_Armed_Forces Manpower section, also, I have Finland, Denmarch, Sweaden, and Norway
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| April 24, 2010, 2:09 pm
Quoting Will Gober
You are really bad at math too, thats 17.5 million not 9 million, that like eight of China's armies. I really suggest you refine it t0 1-1.5 million.

Also, I added this on a calculator on my i pod.
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| April 24, 2010, 2:10 pm
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Whoops, don't know quite what happened there.

Anywho,the population of the territory I am to possess in the plan for the carving up of America would have a population of around 90 million. However, adding population growth and the fact that Michigan today is declining but here it's booming and made a comeback, I'll have to put it at 95-100 million. Current military power would be at 2 million but this number will rapidly increase in days to come.
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| April 24, 2010, 2:32 pm
Quoting Kaiser Ham
Finn, even if Cliffe joined up with you, that's not enough to take him on. Abort your campaign before it's too late.


He's a bunch of insergents for pete's sake
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| April 24, 2010, 2:34 pm
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Quoting Finn C-Q
He's a bunch of insergents for pete's sake


Proper military AND Jihadis. Dangerous combo there.
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| April 24, 2010, 2:41 pm
Quoting Kaiser Ham

Proper military AND Jihadis. Dangerous combo there.

If Cliff allied with me, he has way more territory.
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| April 24, 2010, 2:43 pm
Quoting Finn C-Q
I looked at a real count of it here, look- http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Norwegian_Armed_Forces Manpower section, also, I have Finland, Denmarch, Sweaden, and Norway

That's still not enough for 17.5 million men, I can actually make claims that I have 13 million men, and if Cliffe attacked it would be foolish, because I hear from my sources that he doesn't like you much
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| April 24, 2010, 3:00 pm
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It doesn't matter about territory. If territory was about as good as population when in war, Weagle would kick our butts. But no. He takes large amounts of territory with few people in them. However, Tedious here has more than 3 times Weagle's population. Cliffe may have more territory, but you'll both have to fight a heavily concentrated and determined enemy. I have my money on Iran.
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| April 24, 2010, 3:02 pm
Quoting Will Gober
That's still not enough for 17.5 million men, I can actually make claims that I have 13 million men, and if Cliffe attacked it would be foolish, because I hear from my sources that he doesn't like you much

Mhm, I am staying with the fact that I have 9 million something
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| April 24, 2010, 3:04 pm
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Quoting Finn C-Q
Mhm, I am staying with the fact that I have 9 million something


BS. Way too large of a military. Have you even looked at the populations of the territories you own? Just adding together their current militaries does not give you justice.
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| April 24, 2010, 3:16 pm
Quoting Kaiser Ham

BS. Way too large of a military. Have you even looked at the populations of the territories you own? Just adding together their current militaries does not give you justice.

Actually, it does
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| April 24, 2010, 3:20 pm
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Quoting Finn C-Q
Actually, it does


So, if you do have 9 million troops, and 10% is in one half of Iceland, that means you have 900,000 troops in half of Iceland. Three times the size of Iceland's population. Those troops would be cramped and starving, and all it takes is to cut off the supply line. Get where I'm going? Now which two nations have a naval line on the East coast of America? 900,000 troops will be slowly starved to death if those two nations wished for it.
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| April 24, 2010, 3:33 pm
Quoting Kaiser Ham

So, if you do have 9 million troops, and 10% is in one half of Iceland, that means you have 900,000 troops in half of Iceland. Three times the size of Iceland's population. Those troops would be cramped and starving, and all it takes is to cut off the supply line. Get where I'm going? Now which two nations have a naval line on the East coast of America? 900,000 troops will be slowly starved to death if those two nations wished for it.

Then I would ship most of them back and leave 40,000
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| April 24, 2010, 3:52 pm
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Quoting Finn C-Q
If Cliff allied with me, he has way more territory.


Territory=/=People

Look at Canada and Algeria for prime examples. Both have about the same population (35 odd million), and are very large nations. I don't know how many times I've had to explain things like that to people. Furthermore, I agree with the others, 9 million soldiers in Scandinavia isn't very realistic. Sure, you can have that many, but they'll be conscripts or something.

And now on to Greece and Turkey's combined forces:

The general population is about 80 million, the army itself is about 1.5 million strong, two thirds of it being Turkish. There is another 600,000 in the reserve forces, and the Roman Empire is keeping the Turkish requirements that every fit male must serve from three months to fifteen months in the military, depending on their job, education, and abilities. However, after this time, they are free to do other things. In worst case scenario, the whole male population (and eventually female, if the Emperor so chooses) will grab a gun and become the final defense of the Roman Empire. Let's hope it doesn't come to that.

That's actually all I have right now, I'm really bad at estimating numbers of things. We probably have a couple hundred Feroun tanks and things like that.
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| April 24, 2010, 5:22 pm
swell, the numbers are what I got from reserch...
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| April 24, 2010, 5:47 pm
Quoting Finn C-Q
swell, the numbers are what I got from reserch...

Still, 1,000,000 men fighting for a cause (jihad) is greater than a force of 9,000,000 conscripts. I still say your military is far too large for your nation. That's almost half of your nations population, and your nation probably is full of only fit young men and women, you have to think about these things. To have an army that large in a liberal European country you'd have to force all men 18-40 to serve in the military for a long period of time.
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| April 24, 2010, 7:47 pm
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Quoting Will Gober
Still, 1,000,000 men fighting for a cause (jihad) is greater than a force of 9,000,000 conscripts. I still say your military is far too large for your nation. That's almost half of your nations population, and your nation probably is full of only fit young men and women, you have to think about these things. To have an army that large in a liberal European country you'd have to force all men 18-40 to serve in the military for a long period of time.


I'm about to get a couple hundred thousand of your chest anyways. Finn, you're making all the wrong moves.
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| April 24, 2010, 9:11 pm
I must say, putting this new topic is a bad idea. The one person who got it right is Jack Ford. He listed the every avaible vehicles.
@Finn, I believe nobody wanted to hear any of your generals name, So please dont mess around.
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| April 24, 2010, 9:30 pm
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I have no idea. I run a Russian splinter state, there's no way of knowing how many ex-Russians immigrated or how many army units defected after the breakup.
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| April 24, 2010, 10:18 pm
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Quoting Areetsa C
I have no idea. I run a Russian splinter state, there's no way of knowing how many ex-Russians immigrated or how many army units defected after the breakup.

Well, you have to split at least 31,000,000 with Eastern Russia...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/European_Russia

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| April 24, 2010, 10:35 pm
Quoting Will Gober
Still, 1,000,000 men fighting for a cause (jihad) is greater than a force of 9,000,000 conscripts. I still say your military is far too large for your nation. That's almost half of your nations population, and your nation probably is full of only fit young men and women, you have to think about these things. To have an army that large in a liberal European country you'd have to force all men 18-40 to serve in the military for a long period of time.

Ok, glad I am finally understanding your means, so I will use the availinle for fighting catagory and redo, ok? :/
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| April 24, 2010, 10:44 pm
Quoting Ryan Blackout
I must say, putting this new topic is a bad idea. The one person who got it right is Jack Ford. He listed the every avaible vehicles.
@Finn, I believe nobody wanted to hear any of your generals name, So please dont mess around.

I was not messing around, I was stating what I thought should be there
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| April 24, 2010, 10:45 pm
Quoting Kaiser Ham

I'm about to get a couple hundred thousand of your chest anyways. Finn, you're making all the wrong moves.

Well, he declaired war on me, but now, now I am going to do something else
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| April 24, 2010, 10:47 pm
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Quoting Finn C-Q
Well, he declaired war on me, but now, now I am going to do something else


You can't just ignore war, that's stupid. Just because you realize he'll win, doesn't mean you can just lolligag until his forces get there.
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| April 24, 2010, 11:04 pm
Quoting Kaiser Ham

You can't just ignore war, that's stupid. Just because you realize he'll win, doesn't mean you can just lolligag until his forces get there.

Well, then
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| April 25, 2010, 10:40 am
UMN armed forces 2010 consisted of:

UMN Army:
Malaysia
110,000 active troops
50 PT-91M MBTs
26 FV101 Scorpion Light tanks
30 K-200 IFVs
35 Condor APCs
26 Alvis Stromer LAVs
5 AV-VBl ACVs

Singapore
37,000 active troops
300,000 reserve
103 Leopard 2A4 MBTs
60 Centurion MBTs
350 AMX-13 Light tanks
~800 Bionix series IVFs
~300 Terrex IFVs
~1000 M113A2 series APCs
~400 Howitzers (including self-propelled)
and some more small vehicles

Brunei
16 FV101 Scorpion Light tanks
26 VAB APCs


UMN Airforce:
Malaysia
20 Su-30MKM
18 F-5 Tiger
14 MIG-29N
14 Hawk Mk.208
8 F/A-18 Hornet
20 C-130 series transports
8 CN-235 transports
4 A400M transports
30 S-61 Seaking
12 Super Cougar

Singapore
24 F-15SG Strike Eagle
74 F-16 Series fighters
45 F-5 Tiger
20 CH-47 Chinook
20 AH-64 Apache
22 Super Puma
6 S-70B Seahawk
10 C-130 transports
4 KC-135 Tankers
4 Gulfstream AEW
4 E-2C Hawkeye

Brunei
4 S-70 Blackhawk
4 Bo-105
10 Bell 212
4 CN-235


UMN Navy:
Malaysia
2 Lekiu class frigate
2 Kasturi class frigate
4 Laksamana class corvette
3 Scorpène class submarine
27 Kedah Class OPV

Singapore
6 Formidable class stealth frigate
6 Victory class corvette
13 Fearless class patrol vessel
4 Challenger class submarine
2 Archer class submarine
4 Endurance class Amphibious Assault Ships

Brunei
3 F2000 class corvette
3 Waspada class Missile patrol boats
3 LCM
20 Patrol Boats

There you have it.By the way,this list excluded the ordered units, so the numbers are not 100% correct.

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| April 27, 2010, 8:35 am
Senegal : 19000 soldiers
name. Type. # in service
Aérospatiale SA 341 scout helicopter 1
Aérospatiale AS 355  trainer helicopter 2
Mil Mi-24  Russia attack helicopter 2
Mil Mi-17  Russia transport helicopter 2
Mil Mi-2   utility helicopter
Fokker F-27 transport. 6
Casa C-212 MPA  Maritime Patrol Aircraft 1
Boeing 727   1
Britten-Norman Islander   utility 1
Aérospatiale Magister  trainer 4
Aérospatiale Epsilon trainer 2

the Gambia: 1900 soldiers

Liberia: 2100 soldiers

Sierra Leone: 10500 soldiers

Guinea: 19650 soldiers


Aero L-29 Delfin trainer 3
Aérospatiale SA 342 Gazelle   utility helicopter 1
Aérospatiale SA-330 Puma   transport helicopter 1
Antonov An-12 Cub tactical transport 1
Antonov An-14 utility transport 4
Antonov An-24  tactical transport 1
Eurocopter AS 350
 Spain utility helicopter 1
Mil Mi-8 Hip transport helicopter. 1
Mil Mi-24 Hind attack helicopter 2
Yakovlev Yak-18 Max trainer. 4



Guinea-Bissau: 9250 soldiers

That's a total of 52,400. Don't you laugh at me!
I'll have to add all the other stuff later.
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| April 29, 2010, 10:46 pm
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Quoting Doctor Sushi
Senegal : 19000 soldiers

the Gambia: 1900 soldiers

Liberia: 2100 soldiers

Sierra Leone: 10500 soldiers

Guinea: 19650 soldiers

Guinea-Bissau: 9250 soldiers

That's a total of 52,400. Don't you laugh at me!
I'll have to add all the other stuff later.


When the PCU started, we had 25,000 troops.
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| April 29, 2010, 10:57 pm
Quoting Awesome-o-saurus The Not-So-Great

When the PCU started, we had 25,000 troops.

/feels significant

Also, may I expand my territory eg: to Cote d'Ivoire?
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| April 29, 2010, 11:04 pm
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Quoting Doctor Sushi
/feels significant

Also, may I expand my territory eg: to Cote d'Ivoire?


By invasion or diplomacy. Diplomacy takes a while, invasion is the same as in the real world. You'll usually get rebels and partisans, and the war will go on for months.
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| April 29, 2010, 11:25 pm
FRENCH-PORTUGUESE COALITION FORCES

693,582 soldiers regulars+reserves

4,300 AMX-13(EPIC)
3,571 AMX-30(EPIC)
Leclercs(EPIC)
Chaimite(EPIC)
Pandur 8x8 APC(EPIC)

Air Force: French Mirage series, imported planes, approx. 1000 planes.
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| May 2, 2010, 5:42 pm
Netherlands has 72,000 total personnel, just 4,000 more than they have today. I did my research all right!

~38,000 army
~17,000 navy
~250 aircraft

Plus more in HQ, military police, and support units.
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| May 11, 2010, 10:12 pm
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