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International Conversation Forum IX
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Let the games begin.

For the 9th time.
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| June 28, 2010, 2:29 pm
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Speaking of games, are we going to have the Olympics this August?
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| June 28, 2010, 2:47 pm
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The Varese Enforcement Line has been thickened greatly from a two-lane convoy line to several miles wide. The idea now is to go ahead and mobilize a small detachment to mop-up the triangular piece of land leading up to Switzerland. This will secure a nice chunk of the northwestern boundary and secure a downward thrust further into Italian territory later along the line. The Swiss government has been contacted as well and an agreement stands to leave a three-mile buffer on both sides of the border to enable high-altitude reconnaissance the ability to identify Italian deserters and the like.

The next target in Italy will be Asti. Forward reconnaissance drones have been sent to identify possible targets. 1,200 paratroopers will secure leading roads into the area to hopefully create a bottleneck for any retreating forces once the main invasion force presses into the area.
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| June 28, 2010, 5:17 pm
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Quoting Dr. Spontaneous
The Varese Enforcement Line has been thickened greatly from a two-lane convoy line to several miles wide. The idea now is to go ahead and mobilize a small detachment to mop-up the triangular piece of land leading up to Switzerland. This will secure a nice chunk of the northwestern boundary and secure a downward thrust further into Italian territory later along the line. The Swiss government has been contacted as well and an agreement stands to leave a three-mile buffer on both sides of the border to enable high-altitude reconnaissance the ability to identify Italian deserters and the like.


Cliffe has Switzerland. Just to let you know.
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| June 28, 2010, 5:43 pm
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Quoting Chairman Ham

Cliffe has Switzerland. Just to let you know.

Up to the Swiss border, not into. I left a buffer zone.
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| June 28, 2010, 5:46 pm
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Quoting Chairman Ham

Cliffe has Switzerland. Just to let you know.

No, he doesn't.
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| June 28, 2010, 6:11 pm
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Quoting Thomas N
No, he doesn't.

It falls in the whole "I have plans for it, it's rightfully mine" policy. Cliffe told me no-no for taking Switzerland because he has plans to expand the Reich into it.
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| June 28, 2010, 6:26 pm
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Quoting Dr. Spontaneous
It falls in the whole "I have plans for it, it's rightfully mine" policy. Cliffe told me no-no for taking Switzerland because he has plans to expand the Reich into it.


What if I shell it from orbit?

Hasn't he got plenty of lebensraum already.
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| June 28, 2010, 7:04 pm
Lately Cuba has had problems with drug running in and around the Havana port. With the help of Nick's navy, I hope to stop these incursions by forming a barricade around the port, and having local militia form a perimeter around the land entrance to the port. The suspects will then be rounded up and taken to a detention facility.
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| June 28, 2010, 7:07 pm
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Quoting Areetsa C

What if I shell it from orbit?

Hasn't he got plenty of lebensraum already.

If it's shelled from orbit, one mind as well use it as an international landfill.

As for the latter, I suppose. However, seeing as though this is a game with a small population of members I'm sure everyone wants as much as they can get.
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| June 28, 2010, 7:08 pm
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Quoting Evan Melick
Talks in South Africa are progressing well. The downward spiral of South Africa's economy, and the rising unemployment rate over the past twenty five years has left a sour taste in the mouth of the people of South Africa. Although far from immediate re-integration as a dominion, the people are warming up to the idea. As of now, the Republic of South Africa has been declared a protectorate of the Commonwealth.



Ehh, no. I don't think that all these former colonies would so willingly go under British rule again. The native africans would most certainly not. The British colonists were the ones who imposed apartheid, and while many are poor and would like the economic improvements you say, their would be some fears to another apartheid era. Plus, for an African nation, I'd say they have a pretty good armed forces. So, they'd mostly likey want to keep their independance.
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| June 28, 2010, 7:18 pm
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Quoting Dr. Spontaneous
If it's shelled from orbit, one mind as well use it as an international landfill.


Landfills? The Roman Empire is well-aware there is only one Earth (Until Cliffe gets his Star Destroyers), and we're currently working on a program to launch all our worst waste materials into the sun via rocket. It'll be expensive, but at least we conveniently have a launch point being secure by the equator. Hmm... Almost like it was planned.
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| June 28, 2010, 7:54 pm
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Quoting Dr. Spontaneous
It falls in the whole "I have plans for it, it's rightfully mine" policy. Cliffe told me no-no for taking Switzerland because he has plans to expand the Reich into it.

How come this works for the Germans but when I said it to the SRGL Cliffe said they get to have the land anyway. . . .
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| June 28, 2010, 7:59 pm
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Quoting Nick Shelton
How come this works for the Germans but when I said it to the SRGL Cliffe said they get to have the land anyway. . . .

I don't think I can say much there without being a whole-hearted antagonist. As much as I hate the policy of tales and promises, it does seem to have weight amongst a majority of the individuals within this pseudo-political game.

Plus, seeing as though I'd be going against an Admin I don't care too much to be banned as of yet.
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| June 28, 2010, 8:04 pm
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Quoting Dr. Spontaneous
I don't think I can say much there without being a whole-hearted antagonist. As much as I hate the policy of tales and promises, it does seem to have weight amongst a majority of the individuals within this pseudo-political game.

I think its a problem of Admin does what they want.
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| June 28, 2010, 8:06 pm
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Quoting Nick Shelton
I think its a problem of Admin does what they want.


I do what I want too, though much more discreetly. I've made it clear I have a plan, and anyone who wants to interfere can, but I'll blow them into small bits that baby rodents can play with in Disney movies.
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| June 28, 2010, 8:43 pm
FTSA is launching a massive invasion of Texas from the east.

Spearheaded by 34 bomb-carrying F-37s, an invasion force of 15,000 troops, along with 58 AH-72s is attacking the eastern portion of Texas. F-37s are planned to fly over Louisiana on the way to bomb Houston. The 37s will be in to bomb Houston within ten minutes. The troops and helis will be in to attack by 2230 hours. 3 battleships, 1 carrier, and 17 landing craft will attack Houston by way of Galveston bay, spearheaded by 4 submarines.
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| June 28, 2010, 9:41 pm
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The PCU recalls all Task Forces to go to the Gulf of Mexico in light of the declaration of War against the Lone Star Republic.
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| June 28, 2010, 9:45 pm
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Betrayal-five!

And Rocky, be careful about sending everything, Erik may want to claim the South. You know the other Euros are going to jump into this faster than kids into a swimming pool full of candy. Or something like that.
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| June 28, 2010, 9:54 pm
Due to my current situation, I will have to wait, and see how many civilians Rocky will kill before I go off and do something like, blow a dirty bomb. I'm destined to lose anyway. Cliffe, what is the point of your group. Nick is too much of a coward to step in, so I'ma not do anything about this. However, we need a mod, not just this little noob claiming things again.
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| June 28, 2010, 9:57 pm
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In response to this latest conflict, the SRGL declares all out war against Rocky. We need a moderator and fast.
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| June 28, 2010, 10:01 pm
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In response to Ham declaring war on Rocky, the PCU declares War against the SRGL. Not to be mean to Will, but nobody should interfere in this except them.
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| June 28, 2010, 10:05 pm
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Quoting Will G.
Cliffe, what is the point of your group.


Because sometimes the world is taken over by alliances too powerful to fight each other, and you need to start over to have any fun, rather than dry official stuff.

@Ham: I agree. I'd nominate Erik, but it remains to be seen if he's getting involved or not. I could moderate, but I'm really bad at that kind of thing.
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| June 28, 2010, 10:05 pm
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Quoting Awesome-o-saurus The Not-So-Great
Betrayal-five!

And Rocky, be careful about sending everything, Erik may want to claim the South. You know the other Euros are going to jump into this faster than kids into a swimming pool full of candy. Or something like that.

BEAR, most likely won't.
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| June 28, 2010, 10:07 pm
You mean, total warfare.
It should be noted that dirty bombs aren't nukes.
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| June 28, 2010, 10:08 pm
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Quoting Will G.
It should be noted that dirty bombs aren't nukes.
Noted.

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| June 28, 2010, 10:09 pm
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It should also be noted that the PCU is only interested in keeping this a conflict between Rocky and Will, not Rocky and a bunch of other dudes.
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| June 28, 2010, 10:11 pm
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Quoting Nick Shelton
In response to Ham declaring war on Rocky, the PCU declares War against the SRGL. Not to be mean to Will, but nobody should interfere in this except them.


Well then, I back out. Leave a nation that just gained independance vulnerable to attack.

@Awe: I'd like to try my hand at moderating, but I know how everyone will react to that.
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| June 28, 2010, 10:12 pm
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Quoting John Dawn
BEAR, most likely won't.


Half of BEAR most likely won't.

Ian's spoiling for a fight, and we all know how Finn is.

The real question is: what would any of us gain from helping Will throw off the chains of Pacifican oppression?

Apart from the moral high ground and a warm fuzzy feeling.

Quoting Awesome-o-saurus The Not-So-Great

@Ham: I agree. I'd nominate Erik, but it remains to be seen if he's getting involved or not. I could moderate, but I'm really bad at that kind of thing.


I might; how does it work?
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| June 28, 2010, 10:13 pm
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Quoting Areetsa C

I might; how does it work?


Have you paid attention at all since you joined?
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| June 28, 2010, 10:15 pm
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Quoting Areetsa C

Half of BEAR most likely won't.

Ian's spoiling for a fight, and we all know how Finn is.
We need a 5th member...

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| June 28, 2010, 10:22 pm
Ian can't just come in and fight, he'll lose...
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| June 28, 2010, 10:34 pm
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Quoting Areetsa C
The real question is: what would any of us gain from helping Will throw off the chains of Pacifican oppression?

Apart from the moral high ground and a warm fuzzy feeling.

Quoting Awesome-o-saurus The Not-So-Great

@Ham: I agree. I'd nominate Erik, but it remains to be seen if he's getting involved or not. I could moderate, but I'm really bad at that kind of thing.


I might; how does it work?


You should see Texas in the other group, they cracked down on free speech and stuff. And moderating? Go look at the posts Erik makes, everything from him is a moderation.

Quoting John Dawn
We need a 5th member...


I'll be an honorary BEAR member.
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| June 28, 2010, 10:34 pm
Quoting Awesome-o-saurus The Not-So-Great

I might; how does it work?


You should see Texas in the other group, they cracked down on free speech and stuff. And moderating? Go look at the posts Erik makes, everything from him is a moderation.

Quoting John Dawn
We need a 5th member...


I'll be an honorary BEAR member.

Well, Nick does not have the freedom of Religion. In his PCU everyone is a Christian...
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| June 28, 2010, 10:44 pm
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Quoting Will G.
Well, Nick does not have the freedom of Religion. In his PCU everyone is a Christian...


I never said he wasn't oppressive.
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| June 28, 2010, 11:16 pm
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I'll moderate, seeing as how I have experience with conflict moderation in this group and am still neutral in matters in the Americas.
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| June 28, 2010, 11:23 pm
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Quoting Evan Melick
Then if negotiations fail, the Commonwealth will be expanded via blood and iron.

If it comes to that, I urge you to violently destroy all Vuvuzela factories.
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| June 28, 2010, 11:28 pm
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As much as I would like the South because of my own little agenda of personal heritage, I'll just be on standby. A small peacekeeping task force of some 1800 French Peacekeepers will be just out of oceanic jurisdiction as to not provoke either party. These men will act as a humane detachment to secure displaced civilians or commit to emergency operations of rescue. They'll also act as a small representation of delegation to protect allied territories bordering Caribbean waters. Engaging these men will mean a decisive declaration of war that I'm just itching to hop into.
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| June 29, 2010, 12:01 am
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Quoting Evan Melick
Hey now.

I just pooled some cash with a friend and bought four of them directly from Cape Town...

So, let me get this straight...

The PCU is now fighting both of the Eastern American nations. The South is fighting Texas, and the North is fighting the South?

A clarification would be nice.

~~~~

For now, the Commonwealth will also stay neutral, but who knows.

No, the FTSA is fighting the LSR.
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| June 29, 2010, 12:12 am
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Quoting Evan Melick
I'm assuming, that is North versus South?

So where do you fit in?

ARGH

No, it's East vs. West.

I fit in as the dude playing another dude disguised as another dude!
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| June 29, 2010, 12:49 am
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Quoting Awesome-o-saurus The Not-So-Great
Go look at the posts Erik makes, everything from him is a moderation.


But how does he do it? Does he just make it up as he goes along?


Quoting Nick Shelton
No, it's East vs. West.

I fit in as the dude playing another dude disguised as another dude!


East vs. West?

Hang on, I have to get my Gorbachev hat.
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| June 29, 2010, 12:59 am
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Quoting Areetsa C

East vs. West?

Hang on, I have to get my Gorbachev hat.

Mr. Gorbachev, tear down this wall!
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| June 29, 2010, 1:06 am
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Quoting Areetsa C

The belligerents send me battle plans via Flickr Mail and then I make my judgement on how well each side does. If I simply made it up, some of the radical numbers that popped up wouldn't have shown their faces.
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| June 29, 2010, 1:08 am
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Quoting Areetsa C

East vs. West?

Hang on, I have to get my Gorbachev hat.


Heh heh heh. You had something earlier about how Erik moderates, I'm pretty sure he makes it up as he goes along.
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| June 29, 2010, 1:12 am
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Quoting Nick Shelton
Mr. Gorbachev, tear down this wall!


You first, Reagan!

Quoting Dr. Spontaneous
The belligerents send me battle plans via Flickr Mail and then I make my judgement on how well each side does. If I simply made it up, some of the radical numbers that popped up wouldn't have shown their faces.


So you mix their plans together and make up the results based on that.
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| June 29, 2010, 1:17 am
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Quoting Areetsa C
So you mix their plans together and make up the results based on that.

Pretty much. And because the human mind is fickle, I generally get two to four FMs per individual per day. It gets interesting, but it is a tad tiresome with prolonged conflicts.
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| June 29, 2010, 1:35 am
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Quoting Dr. Spontaneous
Pretty much. And because the human mind is fickle, I generally get two to four FMs per individual per day. It gets interesting, but it is a tad tiresome with prolonged conflicts.

I forget things...
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| June 29, 2010, 1:51 am
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Quoting Nick Shelton
I forget things...

It's not just you; and I understand completely. Things change and I rather see members be dynamic instead of static.
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| June 29, 2010, 1:54 am
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Quoting Dr. Spontaneous
It's not just you; and I understand completely. Things change and I rather see members be dynamic instead of static.

Like I'll send you the plan, and go "Oh I should've used those too!" so I have to send another...
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| June 29, 2010, 2:01 am
Quoting Chairman Ham
In response to this latest conflict, the SRGL declares all out war against Rocky. We need a moderator and fast.

FTSA has declared all ou war upon the SRGL as well. A task force of 60K troops, 44 F-37s, and 63 AH-72s is being sent to the Virginia/ Tennessessee border with SRGL to set up defense points. AA gun enplacements will be set along the border, and all roads to and from FTSA via SRGL are being locked down. Minefields are being placed along the border right at this moment. 2 aircraft carriers and a battleship are being placed on standby at Charleston, SC, ready to move out towards SRGL territory at a moment's notice.

Meanwhile, on the Texan front, Houston is being spared from the attack. F-37s turned at the last moment to attack an LSR base near Houston. The base has been absolutely annihilated, at the cost of only one F-37. The troops have been sent into Houston to restore order and to eliminate remaining LSR troops. 32 AH-72s are being sent to Galveston along with 4500 troops to secure Galveston Bay as a landing point for troops via landing craft.

EDIT:
Link to map of FTSA Texas invasion estimate: http://www.flickr.com/photos/cis_rocky/4746223680/
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| June 29, 2010, 10:53 am
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Rocky, ye have to waiy for the moderation bro.
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| June 29, 2010, 12:59 pm
So far parts of Apure and Berinas have been captured with very few resistance and no significant casualties, and a small part of Zuila has also been captured. Our advances in Apure are aimed at capturing San Fernando, and on Zuila are aimed at Maracaibo. It is estimated Maracaibo shall fall into Colombian hands around 2 or 3 weeks, San Fernando however will take at least a couple of months. Reinforcements are being dispatched from Colombia, to Zuila reinforcements include:
10 MT-1
14 MTH/AS-1
22 IF-2S
4 HAT-1

and to Apure:
12 MT-1
15 MTH/AS-1
18 IF-2S
6 HAT-1

And on Colombian ground, the MAH-1 (Medium Assault Helicoper) is currently in development, it will be put in service around the capture of Maracaibo.


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| June 29, 2010, 1:23 pm
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The PCU watches the conflicts in the South with interest. Rocky, don't declare war on Ham, I got him to not declare war on you, don't ruin it! :P

To Juan, nice work down there in Venezuela.
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| June 29, 2010, 1:25 pm
Quoting Nick Shelton
No, the FTSA is fighting the LSR.

The LSR is not engaging in hostilities, for one reason alone...













We don't have a gosh dang frikkin' army, and you're too coward to back me up.
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| June 29, 2010, 2:03 pm
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Quoting Will G.
The LSR is not engaging in hostilities, for one reason alone...













We don't have a gosh dang frikkin' army, and you're to coward to back me up.

To coward? Or saving my money so I can maintain my country. Take your pick.
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| June 29, 2010, 2:06 pm
Quoting Brendan Dore
Quoting Rocky W.
2 aircraft carriers and a battleship

I see no MOCs of yours of that kind...

So?

I've seen people have all kinds of different things which they have not built.
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| June 29, 2010, 2:14 pm
Quoting Rocky W.

F-37s turned at the last moment to attack an LSR base near Houston. The base has been absolutely annihilated, at the cost of only one F-37.

I don't have a base. >.>
Because I don't have an army, and I don't have any vehicles. Therefore, either your men bombed a pasture, or you're crazy. I assume both are true. You don't know what you're getting into Rocky, my only choice, is a tough one to make, but you have to pull out now.
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| June 29, 2010, 2:20 pm
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An official decree went out today, prohibiting the use of nuclear materials in weapons to be used against another nation.

/looks at Will.
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| June 29, 2010, 2:25 pm
In light of comments recently read, FTSA is revoking its declaration of war upon the SRGL. The borders are being reopened, but 2.5 K troops and 8 AH-72s will remain at the border. The rest will be called back to Charleston to await possible orders.

In the Texan front, the attack on Galveston has finished. Since the LSR military is declining to fight, the invasion is movin much more quickly than planned. Already the 1st expeditionary division has reached Austin, to no enemy military personnel to fight. Austin will be completely secured within a matter of moments. Beaumont has also been easily secured.
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| June 29, 2010, 3:08 pm
Quoting Will G.
I don't have a base. >.>
Because I don't have an army, and I don't have any vehicles. Therefore, either your men bombed a pasture, or you're crazy. I assume both are true. You don't know what you're getting into Rocky, my only choice, is a tough one to make, but you have to pull out now.

Well, then, the bombing never happened. I'm not crazy, but apparently you are, for allowing another army to just walk right into your territory and take vast amounts of land. If you don't do anything soon, you'll be out of one Texas.
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| June 29, 2010, 3:34 pm
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Talks in Singapore have failed.

Talks in Madagascar and Mozambique have progressed nicely, and now both nations are considered full protectorates of Oceania until agreements are reached, which should take no more than a week or two. Both nations are willing to take part in increased economic activity, and were also impressed with our promises to expand seaports and make the area more adept for trade. Initial fears of racial degradation were dispelled when tribes of the area would receive full Oceanian citizenship, and all the same lands rights as the aboriginal peoples of Australia, which have also been improved over the past 25 years.

Both nations seem to be getting down off the fence, and a trade corridor is being opened between Perth and Madagascar, as Ports along the coast of Mozambique still require developing.
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| June 29, 2010, 4:15 pm
Evidently I require a combat mod for my war in Texas. Take into account that Will is not fighting back... at all, so I'd be able to take vast distances of land.
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| June 29, 2010, 4:29 pm
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Quoting Rocky W.
Well, then, the bombing never happened. I'm not crazy, but apparently you are, for allowing another army to just walk right into your territory and take vast amounts of land. If you don't do anything soon, you'll be out of one Texas.


And then you'll get a revolution.

It's their hat.

The PE has the conquering hat, the RE has the many sneakies hat, Prusso-Egypt has the strange stuff hat, Texas has the armed insurgency hat.

Speaking of armed insurgency, the remaining fragments of the Kazakhstan national army have started being one. It isn't going so great for them.
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| June 29, 2010, 5:38 pm
Quoting Areetsa C

And then you'll get a revolution.

It's their hat.

The PE has the conquering hat, the RE has the many sneakies hat, Prusso-Egypt has the strange stuff hat, Texas has the armed insurgency hat.

Speaking of armed insurgency, the remaining fragments of the Kazakhstan national army have started being one. It isn't going so great for them.

I can rule through fear or through cooperation by the locals. If they so choose to have armed insurgency, then Imma be real happy for them, but I'll bomb the $#it out of them. I'm giving the locals a chance by not bombing them now; hopefully they'll give life in the FTSA a chance too.

As for the invasion, I still need a combat mod. Areetsa, as a mod, would you kindly be the mod for this?
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| June 29, 2010, 6:26 pm
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Before y'all start with another pseudo-war, it really needs to be established what the concrete force numbers you're working with. I'm not asking this time, but telling you that before you start a conflict post your numbers in the "Statistics" thread. Otherwise, whatever you say is pretty much a flaunting fib. And be realistic with your numbers, please.
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| June 29, 2010, 7:18 pm
Quoting Dr. Spontaneous
Before y'all start with another pseudo-war, it really needs to be established what the concrete force numbers you're working with. I'm not asking this time, but telling you that before you start a conflict post your numbers in the "Statistics" thread. Otherwise, whatever you say is pretty much a flaunting fib. And be realistic with your numbers, please.

I have posted my complete force numbers in the statistics thread, but the numbers I am working with for this invasion is currently 15,000 army troops, 34 F-37s, 58 AH-72s, 456 tanks of various types, 3 aircraft carriers w/ additional naval variant 72s and 37s, 6 destroyers, 8 submarines, and 61 landing craft.
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| June 29, 2010, 7:59 pm
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Have we got a mod or not? Because I'm still open to do it.
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| June 29, 2010, 9:21 pm
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I probably will. It isn't like I've got anything better to do.
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| June 29, 2010, 9:55 pm
It should be noted that many highways that were bombed have not yet been repaired, so good luck. And I don't see how you captured Houston and Galveston so fast, they're fifty two miles apart, not to mention Houston has a population of 4 million, probably more in the next thirty years.
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| June 29, 2010, 11:28 pm
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Spain has given the go-ahead to engage the Spanish provinces in Basque Country. The Marine landing parties seemed to make good progress in landing a favorable distance along the coast and establishing the Foreign Command Depot. The FCD is a small firebase rounded up of local buildings with minor barricades established seeing as though we're hopeful to end this conflict soon. Helicopter coverage has kept retaliation at a minimal, but large and violent congregations are ever-present. Anyhow, the politics of what's to be done with the territory after the conflict is over is still boggling the minds of diplomats.

In Italy, the forces in Varese have been spreading out and setting up "entrenched" positions. Force-multipliers like sniper positions, mortars, and MGSs have been detached accordingly hoping to gain the urban high-ground, so to speak. Paratroopers being some of the more engrossly trained members of the Napoleonic Army have amassed in the city. It is hoped to temporarily mechanize them into a light armour group and assault Como in the next days. It is expected that enemy armour and heavier munition platforms will be dense in aforementioned town, but the Airborne should be a good match. Mobile artillery will be pressing with the Airborne as well to offer supreme shock-and-awe. This will hopefully break the mentality of the reserves being put into place by the Italians.

Further south, the Marines acting as the Second Army Detachment plan to mobilize into Lucca. This will enable a slightly larger coastal control and reduce the amount of near-line combat engagements. The idea is to press hard and leave quite a few pockets of enemy forces for mop-up teams with medium armour to engage. This will enable a great time procurement as to continue into Pisa where the same plan will go underway until the Marines reach Livorno. Granted Livorno will probably have received a majority of the retreating Italian forces, supplements from Rome to deter advancement, and intel from the two near-by cities as to our methods, another Marine landing will be ordered. The first wave will be 8,200 Marines. Another 1,200 are in reserve. Severe combat is expected.

In the east, reinforcements being fed from Ravenna have been travelling and securing the major highway leading up to Venice. Although not engaging the major neighboring towns of Rovigo and Ferrara, to some extent, slight medium armour engagements have been noted. MCAP sorties have been trailing allied troops to engage these enemy forces. Six LARAs have been granted to the intermediate convoy as well. The whole scheme of this is to grant aid to what seems to be pinned Roman troops.
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| June 30, 2010, 2:56 am
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It's been a key issue for a while, but all of the governors-to-be for the new territorial system have agreed to give rights to gays. This had happened in the original territory of the SRGL in 2031. Any public discrimination against these people is now considered a hate crime, just like with any other minority. Those Neo-Nazi groups we integrated into the Armed Forces are being watched very closely.

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| June 30, 2010, 9:33 am
Quoting Chairman Ham
It's been a key issue for a while, but all of the governors-to-be for the new territorial system have agreed to give rights to gays. This had happened in the original territory of the SRGL in 2031. Any public discrimination against these people is now considered a hate crime, just like with any other minority. Those Neo-Nazi groups we integrated into the Armed Forces are being watched very closely.

Texas frowns on this, I mean hate crimes? Really?
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| June 30, 2010, 9:58 am
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Quoting Will G.
Texas frowns on this, I mean hate crimes? Really?


"And what a masquerade!"
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| June 30, 2010, 10:08 am
Quoting Will G.
It should be noted that many highways that were bombed have not yet been repaired, so good luck. And I don't see how you captured Houston and Galveston so fast, they're fifty two miles apart, not to mention Houston has a population of 4 million, probably more in the next thirty years.

Never bombed no highways, son. Plus, my army split into two groups to take both of the cities, and they have no protection, so capturing them is a somewhat arbitrary term.
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| June 30, 2010, 11:54 am
Quoting Rocky W.
Never bombed no highways, son. Plus, my army split into two groups to take both of the cities, and they have no protection, so capturing them is a somewhat arbitrary term.

I believe Nick bombed the highways.
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| June 30, 2010, 1:57 pm
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Officially, nothing has happened, and most certainly no cities have been conquered due to LACK OF CONFLICT MOD. I personally feel Areetsa is not capable of the job. He just figured out what it is, for banshee's sake. I understand the system completely, on the other hand, so if anyone wants me to do it, I will.
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| June 30, 2010, 2:10 pm
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Quoting Chairman Ham
Officially, nothing has happened, and most certainly no cities have been conquered due to LACK OF CONFLICT MOD. I personally feel Areetsa is not capable of the job. He just figured out what it is, for banshee's sake. I understand the system completely, on the other hand, so if anyone wants me to do it, I will.


Areetsa is just as qualified as you. You're both new to this, equally so.

I'd volunteer, but I fear I'm not unbiased enough. If not me, then Dr. S.
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| June 30, 2010, 2:53 pm
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Quoting Brendan Dore
I could do it.


Indeed you could.

All in favor of making Brendan combat mod?
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| June 30, 2010, 3:12 pm
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Quoting Awesome-o-saurus The Not-So-Great

Indeed you could.

All in favor of making Brendan combat mod?

I concur!

It is settled, we'll send Master Kenobi to Utapau.
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| June 30, 2010, 3:23 pm
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Quoting Brendan Dore
Wait, nevermind, I just realized I have to go for two weeks in New Mexico on a hiking trip. So, I secede from the race for combat mod.


Facepalm.

Well, Erik, do you want do?
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| June 30, 2010, 4:02 pm
Right, so the Palawanian God King was doing some recreation. Or something. But whatever, he's back. For the moment, no conquer-age is planned, but the borders patrols are going to be doubled. A decree has been issued declaring that all families are required to have another kid to increase population and ultimately restock the military. The economy has been driven into overdrive, and we our manufacturing has increased three-fold. Natural resources have, unfortunately, been squandered, but luckily we killed off all the ecologists several generations ago and made the study illegal, so problem solved, right?
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| June 30, 2010, 4:23 pm
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Quoting Brendan Dore
Wait, nevermind, I just realized I have to go for two weeks in New Mexico on a hiking trip. So, I secede from the race for combat mod.

Philmont?
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| June 30, 2010, 4:24 pm
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Quoting Brendan Dore
>.>

Mebbe.


Hey, good for you. Personally, I don't think I can do it, but good luck!
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| June 30, 2010, 8:54 pm
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Quoting Awesome-o-saurus The Not-So-Great

Facepalm.

Well, Erik, do you want do?

I'd rather sit this one out. I have three wars of my own to dictate and I may need to show some grace in matters of the ADCC.
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| June 30, 2010, 11:23 pm
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Looks like we're still in need of a mod.

I think I did pretty well last time, and am pretty much open for modding.
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| June 30, 2010, 11:24 pm
There comes a time when one country cannot always take the beating. Texas has had its fair share of fighting over the years, and I'd hate to lose it to Florida. My men and I have chosen to stay and fight. We call on all nations that believe in liberty and freedom to come to our aid. I know many of you will not, but there are several that will. I call upon the ADCC to help defend Texas from foreign invaders, this is our last hope. Rocky, the real fight begins now.
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| June 30, 2010, 11:48 pm
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The PCU frowns so heavily right now on the LSR, it'd look like this in real life. :(((((
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| June 30, 2010, 11:52 pm
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Over the past week from the time Peacekeepers were sent into the area, the ADCC was activated by the word of France and Britain to create the First Foreign Defense Force. The FFDF is maintained by all active members of the ADCC and Algeria; thus, consisting of 160,000 troops with accompanying equipment that have been amassing in and around Kingston since aforementioned action of limitation made by France. The French Foreign Legion will act as the forward command and shock regiment of the task in defending Texas. Please note that this is not a threat against the Pacific Empire in terms of retaliating and liberating. We are here to act as the defending military for Texas and have an open defense budget to do so. We will restrain ourselves to acting solely within the Texan borders and will not get involved with internal political matters. This isn't necessarily a declaration of war upon the Southern States either, but can easily be spun to do so. Now the ball rolls into the action of the Pacific Empire with company and the Southern States.
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| July 1, 2010, 12:01 am
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Mah boi, this war is what all true politicians strive for!
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| July 1, 2010, 12:01 am
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Quoting Dr. Spontaneous
Over the past week from the time Peacekeepers were sent into the area, the ADCC was activated by the word of France and Britain to create the First Foreign Defense Force. The FFDF is maintained by all active members of the ADCC and Algeria and consists of 160,000 troops and accompanying equipment that have been amassing in and around Kingston since aforementioned action of limitation made by France. The French Foreign Legion will act as the forward command and shock regiment of the task in defending Texas. Please note that this is not a threat against the Pacific Empire in terms of retaliating and liberating. We are here to act as the defending military for Texas and have an open defense budget to do so. We will restrain ourselves to acting solely within the Texan borders and will not get involved with internal political matters. This isn't necessarily a declaration of war upon the Southern States either, but can easily be spun to do so. Now the ball rolls into the action of the Pacific Empire with company and the Southern States.

Now why would it be bad it's being liberated? Is Will throwing accusations again my way? Gosh, it's like he never learns. I try to help him, and Cliffe told me to recuperate money so I can make conquests, and no, I get repaid by getting accusations thrown at me for helping.

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| July 1, 2010, 12:05 am
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Quoting Nick Shelton
Now why would it be bad it's being liberated? Is Will throwing accusations again my way? Gosh, it's like he never learns. I try to help him, and Cliffe told me to recuperate money so I can make conquests, and no, I get repaid by getting accusations thrown at me for helping.

We just don't want you to feel as though you're being pinched against the wall in terms of foreign policy being activated within one of your semi-sovereign territories. It was my own will to include that portion.
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| July 1, 2010, 12:07 am
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Heh, and like sharks to a wound, they come.
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| July 1, 2010, 12:10 am
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Quoting Awesome-o-saurus The Not-So-Great
Heh, and like sharks to a wound, they come.

Like I told you, Will is too vvimpy to defend himself...
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| July 1, 2010, 12:12 am
This just in from your favorite Governator Nick Shelton himself. (All comments are intended at me)

Nick: "I don't want to talk to you because you're so arrogant. You talk so huge and say you could pwn everyone and that they're worse than you but when they take action you whine and cry about how you're the victim and I'm sick of it. Then, you can't defend yourself because you're a pansy so you have to get stronger powers to help you because you aren't the strong one here. Stop acting like such a
-censored- and start defending yourself and not calling on others to help."

My response. I never stated I could "pwn" anyone. I also fail to see what is wrong on calling for help because, I have no army, my mother country wont support me, and I'm being invaded. Nick, this is an online game, you need to calm down.
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| July 1, 2010, 12:15 am
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Quoting Will G.
This just in from your favorite Governator Nick Shelton himself. (All comments are intended at me)

Nick: "I don't want to talk to you because you're so arrogant. You talk so huge and say you could pwn everyone and that they're worse than you but when they take action you whine and cry about how you're the victim and I'm sick of it. Then, you can't defend yourself because you're a pansy so you have to get stronger powers to help you because you aren't the strong one here. Stop acting like such a
-censored- and start defending yourself and not calling on others to help."

My response. I never stated I could "pwn" anyone. I also fail to see what is wrong on calling for help because, I have no army, my mother country wont support me, and I'm being invaded. Nick, this is an online game, you need to calm down.

You proved my point, you couldn't handle it by yourself so you called on others.
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| July 1, 2010, 12:18 am
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Quoting Will G.

My response. I never stated I could "pwn" anyone. I also fail to see what is wrong on calling for help because, I have no army, my mother country wont support me, and I'm being invaded. Nick, this is an online game, you need to calm down.


UHUAHUHAUAHUAHAUHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHUHAUAHAAHAHAHAHAH

I seem to recall 1 million rebels that you thought could destroy the PCU occupation force. And then you have everything that happened in the "real" group... Completely different story, but this seems to be directed at you, not at the LSR.
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| July 1, 2010, 12:20 am
Quoting Nick Shelton
You proved my point, you couldn't handle it by yourself so you called on others.

I will say this one more time. I am a governor. I have been the governor for two weeks give or take a few days. That is not time, to organize a million plus men with guns, into an army. Now, my way of controlling these men has since been exposed. And they have returned to their normal lives. Sure, I have personal bodyguards, but would you step in front of several dozen tanks and shoot off your AK-47?
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| July 1, 2010, 12:25 am
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Quoting Will G.
I will say this one more time. I am a governor. I have been the governor for two weeks give or take a few days. That is not time, to organize a million plus men with guns, into an army. Now, my way of controlling these men has since been exposed. And they have returned to their normal lives. Sure, I have personal bodyguards, but would you step in front of several dozen tanks and shoot off your AK-47?

A guard should protect the Governor at all costs. Hitler and his men fought till the end.

Plus, wouldn't you think the same people would hear about the FTSA invading and go back to fighting?
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| July 1, 2010, 12:27 am
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Quoting Nick Shelton
A guard should protect the Governor at all costs. Hitler and his men fought till the end.

Plus, wouldn't you think the same people would hear about the FTSA invading and go back to fighting?


Well, not the very end. Hitler missed the last 7 days of fighting, but he was intent to bring down the German people with him. Luckily, Speer sabotaged that. And that second paragraph is likely.


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| July 1, 2010, 12:47 am
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Quoting Evan Melick
World would have been a better place if von Stauffenberg had managed to pull off that coup...

Would it? We never will know.
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| July 1, 2010, 12:54 am
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Quoting Evan Melick
True. However, a non divided Germany that got a status quo peace, along with a continuation of the war all the way back to Moscow would have probably served to lighten up the 20th century a bit.


My question is: Would they have stopped the Holocaust after Hitler was dead?
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| July 1, 2010, 1:13 am
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Quoting Awesome-o-saurus The Not-So-Great

My question is: Would they have stopped the Holocaust after Hitler was dead?

His closest followers might have, but a majority would most likely have stopped.
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| July 1, 2010, 2:04 am
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The BEAR alliance would like to extend an invitation to the Democratic Peoples Republic of Mongolia to join us.
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| July 1, 2010, 3:39 am
We accept.
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| July 1, 2010, 3:56 am
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Hopefully today we can get a conflict mod and actually get this thing going. I, however, drop out of the race as well. I don't see this as being a short conflict, and I go to the Adirondacks on the 11th.
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| July 1, 2010, 9:12 am
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Anyone participating in this conflict may send me their battleplans via flickrmail.

I believe all of you who have a flickr account have me as a contact, unless I am mistaken.

At any rate, I'd be more than happy to be conflict mod. I rather enjoy spinning tales about battles.
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| July 1, 2010, 9:44 am
That won't be entirely necessary Tom.

FTSA is pulling back the troops from Texas, in light of recent events. Because of France stepping in, mostly because of the LSR's trickery and avoiding battle, the FTSA would not like to pursue further war.

If the LSR does anything to provoke the FTSA, you can expect a not so kinda awakening.
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| July 1, 2010, 10:22 am
Quoting Will G.
My men and I have chosen to stay and fight.

P'shaw Will. You chose to be a coward and to ask for someone else to fight your battles. That is very, very pathetic if you ask me. You can't even defend your country. That was one of the strangest and most pathetic actions I've seen in these games.
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| July 1, 2010, 10:31 am
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Quoting Rocky W.
P'shaw Will. You chose to be a coward and to ask for someone else to fight your battles. That is very, very pathetic if you ask me. You can't even defend your country. That was one of the strangest and most pathetic actions I've seen in these games.



I don't think that you get the fact that HE DOESN'T HAVE AN ARMY. The LSR just gained it's independance, and you just roll right in taking advantage of the situation.
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| July 1, 2010, 10:42 am
Quoting Areetsa C

Half of BEAR most likely won't.

Ian's spoiling for a fight, and we all know how Finn is.

The real question is: what would any of us gain from helping Will throw off the chains of Pacifican oppression?

Apart from the moral high ground and a warm fuzzy feeling.

Quoting Awesome-o-saurus The Not-So-Great

@Ham: I agree. I'd nominate Erik, but it remains to be seen if he's getting involved or not. I could moderate, but I'm really bad at that kind of thing.


I might; how does it work?

How am I like?
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| July 1, 2010, 1:32 pm
Production news:

200 Tanks

200 Fighter planes

200 APC's

200 Destroyers

200 Bombers

and 200 artillery pieces have been compleated.

Not too big of a bill.
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| July 1, 2010, 2:03 pm
Texas in light of the recent events, will finally get the reconstruction going. Starting with missile defense. We will also begin mass production of all of the aforementioned military vehicles. If we are invaded and or provoked, we will secede from the PE. I am glad this could be solved peacefully, but don't expect me to forget.
We are also opening recruiting offices for the Army, Marines, Air-Force and National Guard. Navy offices will open later. With 257,000 already signed up for the Army we expect these numbers to be high within the next few weeks. My men will be converted to special forces, after they finish searching for any Floridan technology left in Houston. We are also re-opening Texas-Instruments, and we have bought a weapons contract from TexDef.
If treated the same, secession from the PE will be imminent.
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| July 1, 2010, 2:56 pm
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Ah, Texas, the state that isn't a state...
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| July 1, 2010, 3:03 pm
Quoting Nick Shelton
Ah, Texas, the state that isn't a state...

What?
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| July 1, 2010, 3:11 pm
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Granted the Southern States are withdrawing from conflict, of the 160,000 Atlantic troops only 25,000 will remain over the next two weeks or so. 4,800 Peacekeepers are on standby and it is to be noted Atlantic troops are no longer within Imperial jurisdiction. This concludes everything but the epilogue that will most likely be written in this infant month.

Anyhow, delegates have been sent to Algeria to talk of energy services. The solar satellite system is going smoothly thus far and France would like to build no less than two relay stations in Algeria with 45% of the incoming energy being offered to said nation. In return, France would be able to utilize Algerian military resources officially and without staggering drawbacks of miscommunication. This would also mean it will most likely be drawn into the Atlantic Defense and Commerce Council as a protectorate and acting member.
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| July 1, 2010, 3:20 pm
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In other news, the Task Forces are heading out once more to their areas. However, three escort carriers, two missile cruisers, and a battleship will remain in Texas with 100 MAF-1s to prevent Texas from doing any foolery. We also recall the HGS Bush back to Portland, but we will continue repairing the roads.
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| July 1, 2010, 3:22 pm
All men who join the Texas armed forces are now given standard false names.
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| July 1, 2010, 3:27 pm
Quoting Evan Melick
The commonwealth would like to officially offer the sale/licensing to the Jackson main battle tank, and any and all variant of the M9882 Humvees (newer versions on Flickr...).

With the Red Fleet heading to the UAE, the remaining ships, Blue Fleet, will remain on station near the Home Islands. The Home Army will also cease activation and return to their daily activities of drinking tea.

Isn't the UAE Jack Ford?
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| July 1, 2010, 3:58 pm
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Quoting Will G.
Isn't the UAE Jack Ford?

Shhhh....
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| July 1, 2010, 4:09 pm
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The PCU is closing its borders on Texas, which pretty much means nothing can leave or enter unless authorized.
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| July 1, 2010, 4:15 pm
Quoting John Dawn
Shhhh....

Uh oh. I don't like that....
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| July 1, 2010, 4:19 pm
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Quoting Will G.
Texas in light of the recent events, will finally get the reconstruction going. Starting with missile defense. We will also begin mass production of all of the aforementioned military vehicles. If we are invaded and or provoked, we will secede from the PE. I am glad this could be solved peacefully, but don't expect me to forget.
...
If treated the same, secession from the PE will be imminent.


Provocation? With you, that means anything, from a simple observation of facts to moving 100 men to a different place. And see, even you have grudges!
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| July 1, 2010, 4:48 pm
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OK, I'm back from an awesome vacation. I'm afraid in the past week I've added even more responsibilities to my life (between a job, a girl, friends, fishing, etc.) and will therefore not be active on a regular basis. I'll try to stay up-to-date as much as possible.

If anything important happened, I'd appreciate it if someone would fill me in. Thank ye all.
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| July 1, 2010, 5:28 pm
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Quoting Jack Ford
OK, I'm back from an awesome vacation. I'm afraid in the past week I've added even more responsibilities to my life (between a job, a girl, friends, fishing, etc.) and will therefore not be active on a regular basis. I'll try to stay up-to-date as much as possible.

If anything important happened, I'd appreciate it if someone would fill me in. Thank ye all.


Just today, the British Commonwealth sent one of it's fleets towards you, for reasons unexplained. Invasion perhaps, I don't know.
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| July 1, 2010, 5:40 pm
Quoting Awesome-o-saurus The Not-So-Great

Provocation? With you, that means anything, from a simple observation of facts to moving 100 men to a different place. And see, even you have grudges!

All things have been resolved with Rocky, due to the fact that Nick "suggested" he invade me.
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| July 1, 2010, 6:29 pm
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Quoting Chairman Ham

Just today, the British Commonwealth sent one of it's fleets towards you, for reasons unexplained. Invasion perhaps, I don't know.

Hmmm... I suppose 'bout time for tea, eh? Anyway, I will be prepared to respond to any hostile movement, if it occurs.
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| July 1, 2010, 7:14 pm
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Quoting Evan Melick
Read a few posts above. As far as I know, according to all of Awe's maps, the UAE is still totally independent.

Also, are you still invading Iran, for map purposes?

Ah, I see. I have been *allies* with the UAE. (Namely they give me what I want and I don't invade them) for some time. So long as you don't annialate them, you can do what you like.

I am still invading Iran.
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| July 1, 2010, 7:42 pm
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Quoting Will G.
All things have been resolved with Rocky, due to the fact that Nick "suggested" he invade me.


So Nick is the one pulling the strings? So that's why he didn't want me stepping in. Just remember this:

WE ARE ALL ARTIST!
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| July 1, 2010, 7:48 pm
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Quoting Evan Melick
Well I was planning on invading them, but nevermind then. If you could sporadically post the frontlines in Iran, it would help, map wise.

Well, it seems like i'm involved in enough other wars that I wouldn't be able or stupid enough to stop you from invading the UAE anyway.

As for Iran, Cliffe said he didn't want me to do it myself and that he'd do it, but I'm not sure what happened to that...
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| July 2, 2010, 12:13 am
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Quoting Jack Ford
As for Iran, Cliffe said he didn't want me to do it myself and that he'd do it, but I'm not sure what happened to that...
If you want it, go for it, before a mew member joins and wants it.

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| July 2, 2010, 10:27 am
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Just until the LSR Republic has it's military going, the First Fleet will be patrolling close by, just incase someone decides to attack again. A task force can be sent in aswell if you like, Will.
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| July 2, 2010, 9:39 pm
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Quoting Evan Melick
Well, could we quite possibly work something out regarding the UAE?

Just go for it in Iran, Cliffe will be AWOL for a while.

You can go ahead and invade the UAE.
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| July 2, 2010, 10:03 pm
Quoting Chairman Ham
Just until the LSR Republic has it's military going, the First Fleet will be patrolling close by, just incase someone decides to attack again. A task force can be sent in aswell if you like, Will.

A task force would be nice, as long as it's willing to fight against the PCU.
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| July 3, 2010, 1:36 am
HEYYYYY-OH!!!

I'm-a back-a!

And I'm as salty as a potato chip. And about as crispy, too.

I see while I was gone all heII broke loose in America. AGAIN. Lovely.

SO... I declare this.

Next time there is a large problem in this group that even INVOLVES Nick, he's banned. I'm absolutely sick of all the %*&*%$ that you kick up over there. I've had it. And yes, it IS you that does it. I can tell easily, for I have common sense, unlike the majority of Americans...

Also, to Jack, I will moderate your invasion of Iran as promised long ago. My apologies for forgetting about it. It'll be fun watching your @ss get whooped by the leading Iranian splinter faction.

The IFS Brinstar has been completed in orbit. It is the first true starship for Prusso-Egypt, and the first truly federal(not belonging to a specific state of the federation) vessel as well. Pics will come when I feel like it.

Shuttles are also going into production for Egypt and Germany. The actual LEGO models will be built soon, I have the designs finalized in my head.

That's all I ca- oh yeah, update on Austria will follow shortly. Hold tight.
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| July 3, 2010, 9:46 pm
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Quoting Kaiser Pharaoh Cliffe
The IFS Brinstar has been completed in orbit. It is the first true starship for Prusso-Egypt, and the first truly federal(not belonging to a specific state of the federation) vessel as well. Pics will come when I feel like it.


That seems a bit rapid. Mine's been in production for months, if you recall, and still isn't quite finished.
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| July 3, 2010, 10:11 pm
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Quoting Kaiser Pharaoh Cliffe
Next time there is a large problem in this group that even INVOLVES Nick, he's banned. I'm absolutely sick of all the %*&*%$ that you kick up over there. I've had it. And yes, it IS you that does it. I can tell easily, for I have common sense, unlike the majority of Americans...


Well, I got some questions.

So let's say Nick is just sitting there, doing nothing. All of a sudden, Ham, Will, Evan, you, Jack, and all the other PCU-haters attack! It's a problem that involves Nick, therefore, do you ban him?

Or let's say you're not involved, but other people attack without warning in a surprise-backstabbing action where Nick thought his allies were actually allies in a war(Hmm... does this sound familiar?). Do you ban Nick, because he's involved?

Let's take it up a notch. Someone gives Nick an ultimatum to release a certain territory, or they declare war. If Nick refuses, it's a problem that involves him that he caused. Do you ban him?
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| July 3, 2010, 10:37 pm
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Quoting Kaiser Pharaoh Cliffe
HEYYYYY-OH!!!

I'm-a back-a!

And I'm as salty as a potato chip. And about as crispy, too.



YOU ARE A PIRATE!

My favorite parted was when you said Nick causes everything. Because he does. He's the puppet master. Next thing you know, Tom Neumo will be invading me! That's almost as ridiculous as Texas invading Egy- oh wait, I forgot, sorry.
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| July 3, 2010, 10:42 pm
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Quoting Awesome-o-saurus The Not-So-Great
So let's say Nick is just sitting there, doing nothing. All of a sudden, Ham, Will, Evan, you, Jack, and all the other PCU-haters attack! It's a problem that involves Nick, therefore, do you ban him?

Or let's say you're not involved, but other people attack without warning in a surprise-backstabbing action where Nick thought his allies were actually allies in a war(Hmm... does this sound familiar?). Do you ban Nick, because he's involved?

Let's take it up a notch. Someone gives Nick an ultimatum to release a certain territory, or they declare war. If Nick refuses, it's a problem that involves him that he caused. Do you ban him?


It would really depend on how much provoking Nick did, wouldn't it?
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| July 3, 2010, 10:55 pm
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Quoting Areetsa C

It would really depend on how much provoking Nick did, wouldn't it?


Indeed. I'm just saying how Cliffe worded it, it can be easily manipulated into banning Nick for anything. If Cliffe so makes it, Nick can never take military action again, lest he be banned.
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| July 3, 2010, 10:58 pm
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Quoting Chairman Ham
Next thing you know, Tom Neumo will be invading me!

Nah, Cliffe and me are buds, and he likes your country, so we're cool.
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| July 3, 2010, 11:34 pm
More than 754,000 recruits have joined up. More are joining every day. Our first production run has come out. Fifteen M-36 Bobcat HGAAI's have been produced along with ten H-MAACs and two Coyote UA-VTOLs.
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| July 3, 2010, 11:49 pm
IN AUSTRIA:

Since the last update, all major Austrian lines have collapsed under the might of the King Leopards and the Luftwaffe. Thousands of prisoners have been taken, and thousands more Austrian units have been entirely routed. Vienna has now been besieged, and should fall in a short matter. Austria shall soon belong to the Reich.
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| July 4, 2010, 11:29 am
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The PCU laughs at Egypt. Banning someone is a bit extreme, don't you think, sounds a bit overpowering and hard @ss if you ask me. Didn't you say you hated hard @sses? Hypocrisy from Cliffe strikes again. Also, I am no puppetmaster, I just told Rocky more people support Ham than Will, I didn't work an elaborate plan.
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| July 4, 2010, 8:49 pm
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Also, the PCU launched four SWIM-1 missiles and then shot them with HAT-1s for fireworks. Sounds like a Plan.
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| July 4, 2010, 8:55 pm
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Quoting Nick Shelton
The PCU laughs at Egypt. Banning someone is a bit extreme, don't you think, sounds a bit overpowering and hard @ss if you ask me. Didn't you say you hated hard @sses? Hypocrisy from Cliffe strikes again. Also, I am no puppetmaster, I just told Rocky more people support Ham than Will, I didn't work an elaborate plan.


I was expecting rage quit. Rocky wanted to go after me,eh? Even more reason to why I should make the Great Lakes-class Carriers.
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| July 4, 2010, 9:27 pm
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Quoting Chairman Ham

I was expecting rage quit. Rocky wanted to go after me,eh? Even more reason to why I should make the Great Lakes-class Carriers.


You've been a problem in the Americas since you decided to disobey Nick, so I can see why. And Nick and I vowed to be above rage-quits. If things go bad and we end up in troublesome situations, we stay until the bitter end.
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| July 4, 2010, 9:44 pm
Quoting Nick Shelton
The PCU laughs at Egypt. Banning someone is a bit extreme, don't you think, sounds a bit overpowering and hard @ss if you ask me. Didn't you say you hated hard @sses? Hypocrisy from Cliffe strikes again. Also, I am no puppetmaster, I just told Rocky more people support Ham than Will, I didn't work an elaborate plan.

You have to do SOMETHING when one member persistently causes confusion, distress, chaos, anxiety, anger, and other forms of misery just because he wants things his way.

And I'm not going to let you have your way.

Nope.

Not going to happen. Give up now.
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| July 4, 2010, 10:26 pm
Quoting Awesome-o-saurus The Not-So-Great

You've been a problem in the Americas since you decided to disobey Nick, so I can see why. And Nick and I vowed to be above rage-quits. If things go bad and we end up in troublesome situations, we stay until the bitter end.

He... DISOBEYED Nick? What, is Nick supposed to be his master? I highly detest this.
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| July 4, 2010, 10:28 pm
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Quoting Kaiser Pharaoh Cliffe
He... DISOBEYED Nick? What, is Nick supposed to be his master? I highly detest this.


They have an alliance.

1st rule of alliances, when everybody else votes 'nay', it's impolite to do it anyhow.
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| July 4, 2010, 10:33 pm
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Quoting Kaiser Pharaoh Cliffe
You have to do SOMETHING when one member persistently causes confusion, distress, chaos, anxiety, anger, and other forms of misery just because he wants things his way.

And I'm not going to let you have your way.

Nope.

Not going to happen. Give up now.

You know this game is based off the real world, and there are people like that in the real world.
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| July 4, 2010, 10:48 pm
 Group admin 
Quoting Kaiser Pharaoh Cliffe
He... DISOBEYED Nick? What, is Nick supposed to be his master? I highly detest this.


Nick told him how much land he could take, because Nick had a plan for that area and was moving his forces in. Ham was in the alliance of the western hemisphere or whatever with Nick and Rocky. Ham went ahead and did what Nick told him not to do, the root of all these problems. You know, this all started over Kentucky.
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| July 4, 2010, 11:13 pm
Quoting John Dawn
You know this game is based off the real world, and there are people like that in the real world.

...what?
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| July 4, 2010, 11:16 pm
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Quoting John Dawn
You know this game is based off the real world, and there are people like that in the real world.


And then everyone else drags them into the corner and gives 'em a good kicking.

Doesn't work on the internet, sadly.


When they invent a way to strangle people through telepathy, you just KNOW I'll be first in line to learn it.
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| July 4, 2010, 11:21 pm
Alright, I've simply had ENOUGH of all of this...

Rod-from-God style kinetic energy missiles the size of the Saturn V have since been loaded onto the Wrath of Ra satellite. For the rest of the month, if ANYTHING violent happens in the continental former United States, it's all going to look like the surface of the moon. More satellites are going up as we speak, and I will build them and post pictures of them as well.

I HAVE HAD IT. This is what happens now. I'm too busy to come up with a more elaborate method of controlling this madness. Thanks to you all, nothing will happen in America for a month now or it's gone... hopefully this just MIGHT help you A LITTLE BIT to learn how to coexist peacefully... which must happen because obviously you can't control your conflicts. AT ALL. I am very disappointed in you all.

Now, I have a lot of work to do...
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| July 4, 2010, 11:33 pm
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Quoting Kaiser Pharaoh Cliffe
...kinetic energy missiles the size of the Saturn V have since been loaded onto the Wrath of Ra satellite...


How'd you get them into orbit?
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| July 4, 2010, 11:36 pm
 Group admin 
Quoting Kaiser Pharaoh Cliffe
He... DISOBEYED Nick? What, is Nick supposed to be his master? I highly detest this.

I told him I wanted certain lands, like you did with Erik and Switzerland, and he took them anyway, mainly because you told him his border needed to look nicer. Now, if Erik took Switzerland you'd tell him off, and rage all up and down. Of course, you're raging all up and down on me too. I'm actually not causing anxiety to anyone else than you as far as I know, maybe when you, Ham, and Will conspire on Xbawx Ham is crying to you telling on me for being mean.

@Ham: A fleet in the Great Lakes is seriously not necessary unless an attack on Canada or the PCU is planned.
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| July 4, 2010, 11:43 pm
Quoting Areetsa C
Quoting Kaiser Pharaoh Cliffe
...kinetic energy missiles the size of the Saturn V have since been loaded onto the Wrath of Ra satellite...


How'd you get them into orbit?

Not only that, but that would pretty well destroy the world. And many other things I complain bout this.
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| July 4, 2010, 11:49 pm
 Group admin 
Quoting Kaiser Pharaoh Cliffe
Alright, I've simply had ENOUGH of all of this...

Rod-from-God style kinetic energy missiles the size of the Saturn V have since been loaded onto the Wrath of Ra satellite. For the rest of the month, if ANYTHING violent happens in the continental former United States, it's all going to look like the surface of the moon. More satellites are going up as we speak, and I will build them and post pictures of them as well.

I HAVE HAD IT. This is what happens now. I'm too busy to come up with a more elaborate method of controlling this madness. Thanks to you all, nothing will happen in America for a month now or it's gone... hopefully this just MIGHT help you A LITTLE BIT to learn how to coexist peacefully... which must happen because obviously you can't control your conflicts. AT ALL. I am very disappointed in you all.

Now, I have a lot of work to do...

The PCU is aiming 25 of their satellites at Berlin and 25 at Cairo. In our eyes, nothing has gone wrong. If things go wrong in Cliffe's eyes, things will go amazingly wrong in Berlin and Cairo. Our four ICBM classes are being readied to burn some craters into the space ships, and our space ships (courtesy of our trade with John Dawn) will ready their lasers.
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| July 4, 2010, 11:52 pm
 Group admin 
Quoting Nick Shelton
ready their lasers.


So passes my ability to take this group 100% seriously.
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| July 4, 2010, 11:55 pm
Just because utter destruction is something I want to see happen, Texas is formally seceding from the Pacific Empire. No hostilities are intended betweenst Texas and the PE. However if hostilities commence, we all know about Cliffe Rage.

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| July 4, 2010, 11:57 pm
 Group admin 
Quoting Awesome-o-saurus The Not-So-Great

So passes my ability to take this group 100% seriously.

I swear dude, once I send them back to Portland Spaceyard, I will fit them with some KEWs and missiles.
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| July 4, 2010, 11:58 pm
 Group moderator 
Quoting Nick Shelton
...and our space ships (courtesy of our trade with John Dawn) will ready their lasers.


Dawn doesn't have space craft. Not big ones, anyway.

I'm not even sure Cliffe does.



It seems odd to me that anything involving space in this group seems to be completed, tested and supplied in less than a week.
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| July 5, 2010, 12:02 am
 Group admin 
Quoting Will G.
Just because utter destruction is something I want to see happen, Texas is formally seceding from the Pacific Empire. No hostilities are intended betweenst Texas and the PE. However if hostilities commence, we all know about Cliffe Rage.

36 HAT-1s are moving to the borders near Ardmore, OK, and 25,000 troops will come along.
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| July 5, 2010, 12:02 am
 Group admin 
You guys would not stand for this if Michael, Jack, Jefferey, or Erik pulled a Cliffe-esque stunt...
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| July 5, 2010, 12:10 am
Quoting Nick Shelton
You guys would not stand for this if Michael, Jack, Jefferey, or Erik pulled a Cliffe-esque stunt...

You're right, but this is against you, not someone that doesn't bother people, and, Cliffe is Cliffe.
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| July 5, 2010, 12:14 am
 Group admin 
Quoting Will G.
You're right, but this is against you, not someone that doesn't bother people, and, Cliffe is Cliffe.

Yes, Cliffe is Cliffe.

Bi to the pol to the ar.
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| July 5, 2010, 12:16 am
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With Texas now becoming its own sovereign territory, the Atlantic troops that have remained in Kingston along with the Peacekeepers will be on the ready. Granted the Texan armed forces are still rather infant, these troops will act as a sense of tangible policy. They will not enter Pacific Empire jurisdiction unless severe action is ensured upon Texas.

Aside from that, at least two ECM satellites are planned to be set into orbit this month and the beginning of the next. They will act in acquaintance with the British systems already in orbit. These will grant assurance, or at least the sense of it, to Atlantic ground interests from other orbital weapons that are highly reliant on electronics.

In Italy the pseudo-armoured regiment made up by the Airborne have made a rapid assault upon the city of Como. Two MCAP squadrons have be attached to this attack granted the high amount of Italian armour in the area that come just a tad south in Milan. LARAs are also in the high enough numbers to provide a grand spearhead. None of this is to say that casualties aren't high. The enemy was able to dig-in with artillery and the like which has slowed progression some. Fierce combat is expected.

Another attack is happening as well in the town of Lucca. As previously mentioned some time ago, this is a mere deploy and exit movement. However, due to some communication error the mop-up teams weren't able to deploy on schedule. Luckily, several Marine platoons (20 or so) were able to mobilize via MRNC and assume similar duty. The actual mop-up crews are expected to fall-in within 24-36 hours.

Also to be noted, the roadways to Venice have been secured. A majority of the northeast coasts now belong to coalition forces. This now means more forces can be mobilized into the area.

In Basque Country, French forces have expanded within the entire area. This means a full-fledged occupation is now in-effect. Martial Law has been declared until governing rights are established between French and Spanish delegates. Some 10,000 troops have been withdrawn and sent to Italy to aid in the theatre.
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| July 5, 2010, 12:19 am
And Mongolia patiently waits for a shipment of treads to come in....
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| July 5, 2010, 12:21 am
 Group admin 
Just a quick note, if Nick Shelton is banned from the group 21st Century World, the Roman Empire will absorb the Pacific Empire within 2 minutes. From there, the Romans will truly be a global superpower.


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| July 5, 2010, 12:24 am
 Group admin 
Ah, I forgot about Italy. This is why it's not a good idea for me to be a combat mod. To sum it up:

In Italy, after several days of heavy fighting, both Venice and Benevento are nearly secured. Campobasso is under siege. The southernmost tip of Italy is nearly cut off, and Italian forces are either retreating north to Rome, or into Sicily. More are preparing for the final defense of Napoli.

Equatorial Guinea is practically secured, thanks to cooperative locals and the prompt surrender of their military. The hard part will be dealing with the nationalists that will eventually come back to the public scene.

Production of the King Leopard goes well, and we're working on designs for our next contract.
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| July 5, 2010, 12:28 am
 Group admin 
Quoting Nick Shelton
Just a quick note, if Nick Shelton is banned from the group 21st Century World, the Roman Empire will absorb the Pacific Empire within 2 minutes. From there, the Romans will truly be a global superpower.


From our Gmail chat:

"me: yuss
the Roman Empire will be the greatest empire!
Nick: It always was"

In case Nick is banned, we will use our tank funds to do cool things with the Pacific Empire territory.
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| July 5, 2010, 12:31 am
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Quoting Kaiser Pharaoh Cliffe


Rod-from-God style kinetic energy missiles the size of the Saturn V have since been loaded onto the Wrath of Ra satellite.


Rod from God? Seriously? Looks like we're fawked.

@Nick: They're super carriers. Five of them. Named after the five Great Lakes. Which are also quite large. You see where this is going?

@Awe: It would appear that Haggard wanted to get the gold before the Russians(Cough cough Nick) did and accidently invaded a neutral country. That is my explaination for "disobeying" the Overlord.

@Will: Too soon. I told you I'm going away next week.
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| July 5, 2010, 8:44 am
 Group moderator 
Quoting Nick Shelton
Just a quick note, if Nick Shelton is banned from the group 21st Century World, the Roman Empire will absorb the Pacific Empire within 2 minutes. From there, the Romans will truly be a global superpower.



The Rod from God is a worse fate than ban, to be sure. I don't think Awe would like a territory that's a apocolyptic wasteland, now would he? Especially since these rods are the size of the Saturn V. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kinetic_bombardment
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| July 5, 2010, 8:51 am
 Group moderator 
Quoting Nick Shelton
will ready their lasers.
*railguns

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| July 5, 2010, 9:02 am
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Quoting Chairman Ham

The Rod from God is a worse fate than ban, to be sure. I don't think Awe would like a territory that's a apocolyptic wasteland, now would he? Especially since these rods are the size of the Saturn V. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kinetic_bombardment


You wanted Iceland after Dawn had a go at it, after all...


Now, while the railguns fitted to the Tunguska and Dawn's weapon sattelites have a practical defensive usage (space hijackers, asteroids), Cliffe's bombardment weapons have no practical civil use at all, being nothing more than weapons of terror and vastly excessive destruction.

At least with railguns we can target areas smaller than London!


All in favor of sanctions against Prusso Egypt until they dissassemble their rod launchers?
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| July 5, 2010, 9:18 am
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As of 0900 EST: The IRA has decreed, separate from BEAR, that if any bombardment commences thats purpose is to destroy a nation action will be taken against those satellites. Do not consider this an act of war, but an act of preservation. Matters in America are best left to Americans.
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| July 5, 2010, 9:22 am
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Quoting Areetsa C

You wanted Iceland after Dawn had a go at it, after all...



I acquired Iceland after assisting in the war of the Scandinavians and the Iranians.
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| July 5, 2010, 10:11 am
 Group admin 
I approve of yonder sanctions proposed, mainly to protect myself, but also to say that the only thing I've done is take lands and hurt feelings, Cliffe is taking lands, hurting feelings, and making land useless.
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| July 5, 2010, 11:43 am
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Quoting Areetsa C

All in favor of sanctions against Prusso Egypt until they dissassemble their rod launchers?


Aye! I don't want territory that could be mine looking like the moon, that's what the moon is for!
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| July 5, 2010, 2:54 pm
 Group admin 
Ok, seriously, Cliffe and Nick, you need to calm down.

Cliffe, your entire massive space fleet is entirely far-fetched. There is no way that in 30 years any country could have massive satellites capable of launching multiple Saturn-5 sized missiles from orbit. Let alone the missiles themselves. It's just not feasible.

Also, you need to quit raging at Nick. Sure, he controls most of the Americas, but there is no reason for you to be mad at him, and certainly no reason to threaten destruction of America. As admin, you need to allow some time for all this anger to go down. You don't need to be angry at Nick, Nick doesn't need to be angry at you, and Ham, Will and Rocky don't need to fear for the safety of their countries.


And Nick, Cliffe is mainly mad at you for two things, both taking vast amounts of land at an unrealistic rate, and also taking countries where newer members could have prospered (i.e. Brazil).

Also, I think you need to get along better with your neighbors. Threatening war to keep Ham from protecting an unprotected Texas from Rocky's onslaught is no way to keep peace in the Americas. You really shouldn't think you can control these smaller powers in America, just because you're the biggest. It's time to drop your hostilities to Ham for taking a few states, and settle back and relax. You have a huge territory, there is no reason for you to be so rageful towards Ham, Cliffe and Will.


You both control huge empires, its time to adopt a bit of maturity here. There is no need for you Cliffe to put sanctions on Nick, and again, threatening the destruction of America is just not right. And Nick, saying you are targeting Berlin and Cairo is just going to make Cliffe more mad.

All this talk of destroying each other is just wrong. And saying that Rome would take over the Entire Pacific Empire isn't so great either. I know I'm not the only one who fears that if Nick is kicked out and Rome take all his land, that everyone else would just be at the mercy of two or three large empires. No one wants that (No offense to Awe).

I know that even as I post that you both might as well just continue on your self righteous arguing back and forth, so I've come up with another Idea that I'll implement as well.
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| July 5, 2010, 3:55 pm
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Quoting Thomas N

And saying that Rome would take over the Entire Pacific Empire isn't so great either. I know I'm not the only one who fears that if Nick is kicked out and Rome take all his land, that everyone else would just be at the mercy of two or three large empires. No one wants that (No offense to Awe).


Hey, I want that! Besides, when have I been known to be aggressive? Nick started the eastern Russia incident way back in August 09 after all. I only take over uncontrolled nations, and occasionally defend the interested of my continent.
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| July 5, 2010, 6:05 pm
Quoting John Dawn
Quoting Nick Shelton
will ready their lasers.
*railguns

Exactly.

And any ICBMS that even begin to near the Wrath of Ra will be shredded by railguns. They have replaced yonder lasers.

If you even move, Nick, you will be annihilated. Worse than being banned. In fact, you'll wish you had been banned.

EDIT: HA! And Cairo isn't even the capital of Egypt anymore! That became the capital in Muslim times. Now that Islam is gone, the true capital of Egypt has been restored.
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| July 5, 2010, 7:35 pm
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new convo.
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| July 5, 2010, 8:01 pm
Alas, Tom is completely right. This has now officially been one of the times I had no clue what I was doing.

I can't even begin to thank you properly, Tom. Well, besides making you an Admin.
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| July 5, 2010, 8:09 pm
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As a note: as of the last eight hours, the almost-completed ASV Tunguska performed an emergency engine test. The drives work as expected.

Following this test, the Tunguska moved into geosynchronous orbit over the Atlantic.

Regrettably, we have proven unable to specifically target the "Ra" bombardment platform seperately from anything else; therefore we have targetted everything Prusso-Egypt put into orbit over the last few months.

We may not be able to save the PE if things go wrong, but at least we'll be able to protect the rest of the planet from Prussian ambition.


Consider this the iron fist in the velvet glove; we'd much prefer they complied and recycled their weapons platform, but we're quite prepared to forcibly dissassemble it and everything else they put up if needed.

Due to a lack of time for deliberations, this action, like that if the IRA, has also been conducted seperately from the B.E.A.R. decision making process.

This is the military government of Greater Alenia recognizing that next to the Pacific Empire and its surrounding fiefdoms, the Brotherhood of Eastern Allied Republics is the largest and most powerful faction on the planet and therefore a likely future target.


The pieces are in place.

The next move goes to the Kaiser-Pharaoh.
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| July 5, 2010, 8:14 pm
Quoting Areetsa C
As a note: as of the last eight hours, the almost-completed ASV Tunguska performed an emergency engine test. The drives work as expected.

Following this test, the Tunguska moved into geosynchronous orbit over the Atlantic.

Regrettably, we have proven unable to specifically target the "Ra" bombardment platform seperately from anything else; therefore we have targetted everything Prusso-Egypt put into orbit over the last few months.

We may not be able to save the PE if things go wrong, but at least we'll be able to protect the rest of the planet from Prussian ambition.


Consider this the iron fist in the velvet glove; we'd much prefer they complied and recycled their weapons platform, but we're quite prepared to forcibly dissassemble it and everything else they put up if needed.

Due to a lack of time for deliberations, this action, like that if the IRA, has also been conducted seperately from the B.E.A.R. decision making process.

This is the military government of Greater Alenia recognizing that next to the Pacific Empire and its surrounding fiefdoms, the Brotherhood of Eastern Allied Republics is the largest and most powerful faction on the planet and therefore a likely future target.


The pieces are in place.

The next move goes to the Kaiser-Pharaoh.

I thank ye for targetting my horr1ble weapons, for Tom has shown me that I had been wrong. You have no need to fire. The Wrath of Ra satellite will be used to build the IFS Brinstar, and will be disassembled, never to be used to threaten again.
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| July 5, 2010, 8:34 pm
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