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International Conversation Forum XII
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Highlights:
-The war in China continues.

-New belligerents in said war being India vs. China; Japan vs. BEAR; ADCC vs. BEAR.

-Other stuff.

And if an Admin. would be so kind to the lock the other, it would be much appreciated.
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| July 20, 2010, 6:15 pm
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What would happen if I launched a cyber attack on the B.E.A.R. that made all there communications devices (Computers and televisions) be just porn? With no escape?
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| July 20, 2010, 7:18 pm
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Quoting Chairman Ham
What would happen if I launched a cyber attack on the B.E.A.R. that made all there communications devices (Computers and televisions) be just porn? With no escape?

MOCpages let you say porn...


/facepalm

@Evan: No, not really.
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| July 20, 2010, 7:39 pm
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This morning in Italy, we stormed Napoli with minimal casualties. Mostly due to the fact the Italians are almost all out of ammunition. After they could shoot, naturally, they surrendered. Our armored columns have turned north, to charge Rome itself. We expect low resistance on the way there, when you combine their lowering number of attacks and dwindling ammo stocks.

Bulgaria hasn't shown up yet, military wise. We think they're rather confused by our swift attack. Or maybe I'm too lazy to write about it, it could be either.

Serbia has agreed to join the Empire (I think I deserve at least one unrealistic annexation. I'm looking at you, just about everyone else). Their forces will be re-equipped to modern standards.

And now, for WWIII.
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| July 20, 2010, 8:43 pm
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CORN ON, THE COB
CORN ON, THE CO-OB

I thought words that sounded like the opening lines of Duel of the Fates would suit the epic battle going down here.

In the Pacific, I was confused by Nick's erroneous plan. The HGS Portland is the Columbia class up there, not the Ardmore. The Ardmore is a Governator class, and is up there too. Nick combined both ships into something almost as evil as something none of you know about. >.> <.<

Imperial-American helicopters dealt heavy damage to the light-AA equipped Japanese ships before being taken down by Japanese planes diverted from the air fight and Japanese ships that just shot them down before they were hit. The Pacific-Siberian forces managed to gain the upper hand in the air battle, but the Japanese and Chinese forces numbered too much in the long run. Both sides retired their aircraft because a storm was approaching. If the battle is going to continue, it's going to get treacherous.

In the Baltic, the Russian navy is holding back from direct engagement, only firing when fired upon. However, they did moderate damage in a bombing run against the oncoming west Euros.

The land war goes much the same, in the west Alenians and the Finn-ers have gained the upper hand, in Manchuria, the Siberian-Mongol force is barely holding up against the Chinese. To the south, Indians and Chinese forces have started to clash in the jungles.

That's all for now folks!
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| July 20, 2010, 8:58 pm
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My carriers have combined into something so evil it probably came out a C+ Movie with a D+ cast!
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| July 20, 2010, 9:06 pm
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Quoting Evan Melick
^^ Confused...There are no ADCC ground troops engaging the Russians.

Anyway.

Red Fleet and it's allied escorts reached Iceland last night. Landings and heavy airstrikes commenced immediately. So far, over twenty-six thousand of the seventy thousand soldiers have landed in Akreanes, Iceland. Full mobilization is still happening, not finished yet.

Commonwealth and allied fighters have moved into Danish air bases, providing offensive and defensive cover for the allied fleet in the Danish straits. Word from our French allies put four hundred MRNC fast attack ships in and near the waters of the Dominion of Denmark. The combination of MRNC's and the extreme long range of missiles out of the Hydra destroyers, a combined arms bubble around the western Baltic Sea has been established, centered around the island of Ronne.


They haven't engaged them yet. All I mentioned was naval affairs on the western front.

As for your landings and Denmark, I'll be the judge of what happens there, unless you want a new mod for that front.
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| July 20, 2010, 9:46 pm
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In Italy, another Marine detachment has been sent to hover around near-Rome coastlines. Once the Roman troops begin their assault, landings will commence dispatching some 3,400 Marines and accommodating light armour. Another 1,200 Airborne will be sent in some hours later with the air-capable MGS units. This attack should be able to submit the Italian republic under allied control.

Word of this assault has been rumored by French troops to the public around north Italy in an attempt to have the enemy withdraw south. In the heavily populated central-north, it seems to working. The remnants of their armour have begun southwest in an attempt to defend or counter-act the enclosing coalition assault. MCAPs have been tracking these motorized movements and have been giving them a good go by neutralizing nearly 54% of the retreating forces.

As it stands, the combat in targeted cities has either stood still or diminished greatly. As said earlier, their dwindling ammunition meant for only a few weeks of sustained, domestic combat has pulled to the last grain of powder. Friendly forces have made few reports of active engagements and have exchanged much of their munition on person for less-than-lethal rubber or chalk rounds. This should put some good ease to the public outcry.

Conclusively, this week and possibly some of next should be the final offensive chapter in Italy. With the cooperation and blessing of our Roman allies, Atlantic troops have pulled a nice sum into Council hands and have thus reduced much future variability in terms of border governance.
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| July 20, 2010, 9:49 pm
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The SRGL would like to know if the LSR is interested in purchasing any equipment we have, more specifically, Mackinac-class missile cruisers. Your nation has a weak navy, if any(Come on, let's be realistic here), and we are soon to be phasing these out in favor of the Jimmy Mercury-class.
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| July 20, 2010, 10:06 pm
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Quoting Evan Melick
Do you mean Iceland?

I know Erik asked Tom if he wanted to mod, but I think he's out of town for now.


Iceland and Denmark. Don't assume you have troops on the ground yet, even though in all likelihood you will. That update is coming tonight.

And until Tom gets back, I'm in charge of this war. I like to keep a quick pace moving.
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| July 20, 2010, 10:11 pm
VICTORY!

Austria has finally been defeated.

As you may or may not know, the siege of Vienna was commenced quite some time ago. four days into the siege, the artillery and airstrikes began. A few days after they began, the President of Austria announced he was willing to negotiate for peace. The destruction came to a halt.

Now, many days after negotiations began, Austria has officially surrendered, unconditionally. It is now a glorious part of ZE REICHHHHH!!!
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| July 20, 2010, 11:37 pm
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Quoting Evan Melick
I do have boots in Denmark, it's my nation's territory. At 60 knots, active duty forces on the home isles could have transferred via sea routes or plane from the Home Isles to Denmark in about eight to ten hours, counting offloading. Plus the active and Territorial Army forces in Denmark, there are most certainly boots on the ground, and my fleet has most definitely reached Iceland.


Ah, right. I forgot about that... Your fleet is there, yes, but by war reports, they haven't landed yet. They're not dead either.

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| July 20, 2010, 11:56 pm
Quoting Chairman Ham
What would happen if I launched a cyber attack on the B.E.A.R. that made all there communications devices (Computers and televisions) be just porn? With no escape?

I think we'd lose just because we were all distracted.
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| July 21, 2010, 12:46 am
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Quoting Chairman Ham
What would happen if I launched a cyber attack on the B.E.A.R. that made all there communications devices (Computers and televisions) be just porn? With no escape?


Hmm...

Well, firstly you'd probably have a hard time finding something we hadn't already examined very closely for morally objectionable content (repeatedly, just to be safe), secondly you'd probably have a hard time getting said virus into any of the important things, and thirdly you're Amerilander neo-nazis. We're rooskies.

Most of you can't even read our language, let alone code in it.
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| July 21, 2010, 12:53 am
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Quoting Aree't'sa C


Most of you can't even read our language, let alone code in it.


Hey, I can kind of read Russian! Can't understand it though.
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| July 21, 2010, 1:10 am
Mongolian makes my head hurt. Mu computer can't even display all of the right symbols....
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| July 21, 2010, 1:19 am
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Quoting Awesome-o-saurus The Not-So-Great

Hey, I can kind of read Russian! Can't understand it though.


Me neither. Which is why I use the Wikipedia dictionary's lists of foreign equivelants for english words.
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| July 21, 2010, 1:32 am
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The Great Columbian Empire has declared independence. They leave the PE taking Venezuela with them.
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| July 21, 2010, 1:40 am
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http://www.flickr.com/photos/40712407@N06/4814833000/

The PCU has issued a new marketing campaign to keep the streets clean.
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| July 21, 2010, 3:32 am
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Quoting Nick Shelton
The Great Columbian Empire has declared independence. They leave the PE taking Venezuela with them.


Don't say I didn't warn you when they strike at Ecuador and Panama.

That, and now you've forever lost hope of a land link between North and South America.
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| July 21, 2010, 4:23 am
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Quoting Awesome-o-saurus The Not-So-Great

Don't say I didn't warn you when they strike at Ecuador and Panama.

That, and now you've forever lost hope of a land link between North and South America.

Nope. I can still move troops through there.

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| July 21, 2010, 4:25 am
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Well, minor war report time.

The battle in the Pacific goes interesting. PE attack planes, going back to older tactics, are attacking from high angles, diving down and firing their ordinance at the Japanese ships. Their bombers have been quite effective, though roughly a third were lost to AA, and another fourth lost to Japanese and Chinese fighters. The Russians are back up in the air, causing damage where they can. It won't be long before both sides are out of planes. The Russians and PE, though lacking heavy combat vessels, have not taken as much damage as the enemy fleets have.

However, the Siberian forces in Manchuria are starting to pull back, to meet up with a heck lotta reinforcements coming in. Bombing from Russian planes has been supplemented by the Pacific Empire's B-52s. Nick didn't declare war, but he sure is making war.
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| July 21, 2010, 4:45 am
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Success! Roman armored columns have reached, well, Rome. The attack has begun, the city should fall within a few days. The turn now falls to France, we await their assistance in securing the area.
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| July 21, 2010, 5:26 pm
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The French detachment meant for Rome has hit the beaches with success in grounding boots. A squadron of MCAPs have been left to the command of the Marines with precision air strikes only on the skirts of the city. Internal fighting standards will be left to our Roman allies granted collateral damage is wanted to be kept low by our hand. Anyhow, the promised support armour should be able to make a breach in Italian defenses and fix themselves properly to link with the Roman assault columns. The command structure in the area will be left to the Romans under the gesture of good business.
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| July 21, 2010, 7:35 pm
As local freedom fighters and militia loyal to the Cuban Confederacy close in around San Luis to capture three major officers spreading LSD throughout the villas, rebels allying themselves with the druglords continue to car bomb Cruces in an effort to draw forces toward the town and bog them down. This could continue to grow and become a national threat to Cuba.
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| July 21, 2010, 8:33 pm
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CHOCOLATE RAIN, HISTORY QUICKLY CRASHING THROUGH YOUR VEINS. CHOCOLATE RAIN!

As history quickly crashed through veins in the new state of Grand Colombia, the rest of the Pacific Empire turns it's eyes to the Pacific Ocean and the battle going down there.

Russian-American forces (I never thought I'd live to see the day when these two team up again) are giving the Sino-Japanese quite the fight. The fighter battle is winding down, mostly because all the fighters are being destroyed, by each other or by ships. Pacific Empire bombers have inflicted crippling damages on several cruisers and battleships of the Japanese, and managed to land a few moderate hits on the Chinese carrier.

However, the Asian fleet advanced to firing range, and started targeting the escort ships before moving onto the carriers. The HGS Portland's defense bolters made short work of lighter ships that were foolish enough to approach, but the heavier warships were more of a challenge. The Russians and Americans began to pull back, and were saved from total destruction by the arrival of 7 Patriot-class missile cruisers from Hawaii. Against the tired and damaged Asian fleet, they proved quite effective. After another few hours of battle, both sides retreated. Japanese stealth cruisers made a few more long range strikes before departing as well.

The outcome: Draw!
Asians: A number of Japanese and Chinese lighter ships lost, heavy damage to larger warships. Nearly all planes destroyed.
Russo-Americans: A number of escorts destroyed, heavy damage to several Russian carriers and the Ardmore. Portland sustained light damage. Nearly all fighters and helicopters lost. More than half the bombers lost too.

As you see, this was costly for both sides. And now that the storm has fully moved in, you guys better scram before bad things happen, or the rest of Nick's battle fleet shows up to finish things.

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| July 21, 2010, 11:24 pm
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Hmmm, the PCU Carriers survived!
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| July 22, 2010, 12:01 am
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Quoting Evan Melick
So question, if basically the entire PE Pacific Fleet is going after allied ships...that's a bit more than an intervention isn't it? You might as well just declare war on China...


My thoughts exactly. And now to work on the Iceland conflict...
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| July 22, 2010, 12:48 am
Bah! I would have thought that we would have had a more favourable outcome.
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| July 22, 2010, 1:42 am
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Quoting Ian Macdonald
Bah! I would have thought that we would have had a more favourable outcome.


Sorry Ian, I can't give Nick a direct victory, come back when people hate him a little, MMM, less!

That's my way of saying if I did have you guys win, someone would be calling me out on charges of bias.

Don't try to deny it people.
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| July 22, 2010, 1:46 am
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Quoting Awesome-o-saurus The Not-So-Great

Sorry Ian, I can't give Nick a direct victory, come back when people hate him a little, MMM, less!

That's my way of saying if I did have you guys win, someone would be calling me out on charges of bias.

Don't try to deny it people.

I strongly dislike how if I help Ian win, we still can't win because of accusations! It's madness!
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| July 22, 2010, 1:48 am
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Quoting Nick Shelton
I strongly dislike how if I help Ian win, we still can't win because of accusations! It's madness!


Cool story bro.

Anyways, the convoy has left for China today. It's being escorted by 4 Mackinac class missile cruisers, the pair of Virginia class subs blazing the trail(Because of all the oil. Haw haw), and the carrier Reliant.
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| July 22, 2010, 10:57 am
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Finally making pace astride the air industry is India's armor capabilities. The M45 Rajput rolled off the assembly lines and straight into the now embroiled battle zones of southern China, their paint hardly drying in the humidity (if anybody sees air bubbles on one, could you pop it for me please?).

Realizing that their original plans were flawed, the Indian high command issued new orders for battle, and immediately the Indian army pushed for an eventual link-up with Mongolian and Russian forces in the north. Whilst that occurred, the eastern drive turned east and south to protect the overall flank and to confuse and scatter Chinese forces.


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| July 22, 2010, 11:54 am
Hey Awe, you gonna wait till I get a good computer to FM you? Cause imma still on non wifi vacation and am at a library.
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| July 22, 2010, 2:06 pm
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Quoting Chairman Ham

Cool story bro.

Anyways, the convoy has left for China today. It's being escorted by 4 Mackinac class missile cruisers, the pair of Virginia class subs blazing the trail(Because of all the oil. Haw haw), and the carrier Reliant.

Don't fire on us, we won't fire on you.
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| July 22, 2010, 3:04 pm
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Quoting Finn C-Q
Hey Awe, you gonna wait till I get a good computer to FM you? Cause imma still on non wifi vacation and am at a library.


Can you send an email?
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| July 22, 2010, 4:13 pm
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Quoting Evan Melick
Awe, when do you want orders by?


Sunset. Your sunset, that is.
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| July 22, 2010, 5:09 pm
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Due to unwitting circumstance of the dubbed Algerian Pansy Party, their promised forces have been relinquished and their ties with the ADCC severed. As it stands, the ADCC is now in negative effect against said nation. Anyhow, Spain has promised to supply half of what the Algerian numbers were and Morocco/Western Sahara combined to form the rest. This shouldn't cause too much chaos, just another day or two of mobilization in the Western Effort.

Expansionist think-tanks have now begun propositions and delegations with the inner-French government; seeding out ideas and the like for future partaking in expanding a more proper regime into fickle Africa. Also, the energy treaties with Algeria have been cut as well. Aside from that, the goal will to make for unhappy isolationist environs in North Africa.
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| July 22, 2010, 7:30 pm
Quoting Ultramarine .
link-up with Mongolian forces in the north.


Thank God, I could use it.
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| July 22, 2010, 7:40 pm
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Quoting Nick Shelton
Don't fire on us, we won't fire on you.


Only an escort. If you do the math, that's not enough to help our Animelander friends at sea.
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| July 22, 2010, 8:05 pm
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Quoting John Moffatt
Thank God, I could use it.

A combined front will make things a lot easier!
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| July 22, 2010, 10:17 pm
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Quoting Brendan Dore
Anywho, N. Korea has agreed to sign an absolute surrender agreement, and has come out of the bunkers for the signing.


I know unrealistic is sort of what we DO in this group, but that seems a bit too much even for us.

North Korea is a fascist, totalitarian state. That's the sort of state that prefers to let their people get slaughtered in the millions, and then escape to Switzerland with the treasury. They certainly don't surrender.
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| July 22, 2010, 10:56 pm
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Alright, Iceland time.

70,000 British troops approached Iceland some days ago (I was busy with China), covered by their boats. The Russian forces gave them quite a welcome, both from their own ships and their hastily-constructed bunkers on the beaches. Though they couldn't stop the landings, they manged to inflict many losses. I'd estimate at least 6,000-7,000 before they retreated inland. British have also been launching cruise missiles at the Russian Baltic fleet and the land installations near Saint Petersburg, striking true and causing much damage. They also moved more troops to Denmark. As in, a ton of them. Furthermore, they sent up 3 EMP missiles to take out BEAR satellites, and they succeeded, except for one. BEAR, better get your weapons moving.

Meanwhile, the Siberians are pushing back in China, using their bolstered numbers to great effect. They're forcing the Chinese back through Manchuria. The Mongols also got their back up, and are managing to hold the line. The Alenian advance has stopped, and they appear to be digging in, while the Finn boiz advance at the Chinese, in an attempt to link-up with the Mongols. The experience of Kazakhstan has given them a slight edge over the Chinese.

Also, the Pacific Union itself, not the Pacific Empire as a whole, is the only one up to no good in China. The others have nothing to do with it, so my bad there. PCU bombers are heavily pounding industrial areas, while being picked off one by one by the air defenses the Chinese have. A team of special ops were dropped in during the bombings, and are also up to no good while waiting for the main force to arrive. In the after-raid chaos, they're proving effective. Five UAV-1s assisted them in their nefarious efforts.

After re-grouping, the 7 Patriot missile cruisers chased after the pulling-back (not quite a retreat) Chinese and Japanese, teaming up with the American rail gun satellite to take out ships one at a time. One Patriot has taken heavy damage from strikes from the Japanese stealth cruisers, but one cruiser was destroyed by the other Patriots. ICBMs out of the mainland, coupled with what few planes the Portland has left, also targeted the Asian fleet. The HGS Ardmore began the long limp home to Hawaii.
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| July 22, 2010, 11:15 pm
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Quoting Awesome-o-saurus The Not-So-Great

Meanwhile, the Siberians are pushing back in China, using their bolstered numbers to great effect. They're forcing the Chinese back through Manchuria. The Mongols also got their back up, and are managing to hold the line. The Alenian advance has stopped, and they appear to be digging in, while the Finn boiz advance at the Chinese, in an attempt to link-up with the Mongols. The experience of Kazakhstan has given them a slight edge over the Chinese.


What happened to India in this?
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| July 22, 2010, 11:19 pm
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Quoting Awesome-o-saurus The Not-So-Great
Alright, Iceland time.
Furthermore, they sent up 3 EMP missiles to take out BEAR satellites, and they succeeded, except for one.


"Up to no good" is a phrase I need to start using more. "Nefarious", too. Anyway: I was of the belief that satellites were shielded against that sort of thing? Something about every type of cancer-ray under the sun (pun intended) just flying around up there.
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| July 22, 2010, 11:34 pm
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The IRA warns all citizens in the Baltic to take shelter for the time being.


Quoting Awesome-o-saurus The Not-So-Great
they sent up 3 EMP missiles to take out BEAR satellites, and they succeeded, except for one.
So you are telling me that now that there are no electronics functional in the satellites, and that each satellite, which is power by four nukes each, will be on a collision course with Europe? Well that ain't good.

Quoting Aree't'sa C
Would you be kind enough to try to save Europe with your ship currently in orbit.

Quoting Evan Melick

Quoting Dr. Spontaneous

The IRA would like to offer a cease fire for the time being, seeing as you just endangered the lives of Billions by sending my satellites offline.






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| July 22, 2010, 11:36 pm
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Quoting Evan Melick
...although the troops should get an adequate amount of shut-eye tonight.


Oh, I dunno...

I'm not sure on Dawn's division structure, but artillery has always been a big part of Russian military adventures.

I'd watch out for mines and anti-missile systems if I were you, but I think you already know that.
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| July 22, 2010, 11:39 pm
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As Italy is being mopped-up, a small unit of Marines have been sent on an excursion on a lease for the Commonwealth to secure Malta. 3,000 men even with accompanying light armour should reach their shores by tomorrow evening. Before this occurs, the Airborne will also be participating. The goal is to launch two platoons (80 men) into the island-nation and secure the governing body by force. This will make the capture smooth and efficient. We're looking at a two week program under the guise of Operation: Bident.
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| July 22, 2010, 11:43 pm
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Quoting John Dawn

Satellites with nuclear materials on board heading for Europe


Yup, 3 satellites with all that stuff are on a crash course for Earth.

@Ultramarine: I forgot you, sorry.
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| July 22, 2010, 11:44 pm
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Quoting John Dawn


They're in orbit, right? Stable, reasonably high orbit?

Shouldn't be a problem then, unless you were already planning to drop them on someone.
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| July 22, 2010, 11:48 pm
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Quoting Aree't'sa C

They're in orbit, right? Stable, reasonably high orbit?

Shouldn't be a problem then, unless you were already planning to drop them on someone.

orbit: yes Stable: no
to get the best out of the shot you have to get into low orbit.
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| July 22, 2010, 11:50 pm
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Now, time for Italy and Bulgaria. After a day of fighting in Rome itself, French and Roman forces forced the surrender of the Italians when they ran out of bullets to shoot. The government surrendered quickly after, ordering all remaining troops to stand down. An open, de-militarized zone between French and Roman lines will be made, for ease of passage between the two areas, so families won't be split apart. A Roman force was sent to secure Sardinia and Sicily. Also, an investigative commission was sent to Venice to find out how much exactly of what they stole 800 years ago was left.

The evil forces of Emperor Michael X and his minions have seized the Bulgarian provinces of Blagoevgrad, Smolyan, and Kardzhali, while the Serbians have struck into Kyustindel and are attacking Pernik. The enemy has gathered all forces to Sofia and the north, leaving the southern areas open to seizing in evil manners.
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| July 22, 2010, 11:50 pm
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Quoting Evan Melick
As for a ceasefire, we entered this war to protect our buddy Cole, so unless BEAR stands down this entire thing, the fun still flies. :)
You do know that what you are fighting for is a lost cause. First you have to get through me, which, even with France's help will take longer than it will to destroy China's military. So I guess the fun will fly. But for how long?

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| July 22, 2010, 11:54 pm
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Quoting Evan Melick
"The list" being a white board on a wall in every airbase in Scotland, kindly tossing an endless stream of cruise missiles towards you.


That's where they are, eh?



So, Dawn, how low are we talking about here?

Because if those things have already entered the atmosphere, there isn't really much I can do about it.

_edit_: never mind.

Six hours, eh? And, I wouldn't be too sure about the "nothing could survive" part. Dawn's satellites seem to be relatively unshielded, which means their reactors must be shielded. Therefore, you'll have 4 x 3 = 12 big, heavy, radioactive orbs dropping from the sky.


Wouldn't call it a difficult shot, though. Even firing four shots per platform, with them all hitting simultaneously to shatter the reactors, even a computer could do it.

It's not like they're actively manuevering.

Add in around 20 minutes for the shells to arrive, three minutes for the calculations for every target and another five to retarget, that still leaves the last one destroyed within one and a half hours. Unless of course it turns out that the predicted impact points are in the region of England.

In which case, poetic justice and maybe an hour to get rid of any of the others that might hit something important.
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| July 22, 2010, 11:56 pm
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Quoting Evan Melick
Awe, how many times do I have to tell you.

Just because they caused the long term demise of the empire, does NOT mean you need you need to hold a grudge. *rollseyes*



I will hold a grudge as I please. I have the evil legions of the Roman Empire at my command. Besides, you've told me once before this.
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| July 22, 2010, 11:57 pm
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Quoting John Dawn
You do know that what you are fighting for is a lost cause. First you have to get through me, which, even with France's help will take longer than it will to destroy China's military. So I guess the fun will fly. But for how long?

You're a fractured state, re-initializing old sentiments from decades lost. The Russian proper of modern holdings has since shifted its armed policy. As I see, most of the Russian initiative is still "in the works" within the BEAR while most of Western Europe has standardized military promise with the pushing of the European Union of old. We're equally matched.
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| July 23, 2010, 12:01 am
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Quoting Awesome-o-saurus The Not-So-Great
@Ultramarine: I forgot you, sorry.

No prob. But that could change the outcome of history...
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| July 23, 2010, 12:02 am
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Quoting Evan Melick
Even if you manage to get through China's multi-million man military. You may be technologically advanced, and have India on your side, but China will always have more men, and the Tibetan terrain India is invading into, is some of the most defensible in the world. Good luck getting an armored spearhead through the Himalayas. We don't need to invade through Russia. We have our own agenda, and plans. Every man and piece of equipment you spend fighting us, is one less Cole has to face.
Yes because conscripts love to go to war, And a news flash is, out of BEAR, I have the least troops over there. So expect a heckuva fight.

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| July 23, 2010, 12:03 am
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Quoting Dr. Spontaneous
We're equally matched.
Not for long.

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| July 23, 2010, 12:08 am
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That's what I was thinking. A million man army isn't all that awesome when most of it is conscript.
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| July 23, 2010, 12:09 am
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Quoting Evan Melick
All the airbases in the Commonwealth have a stash of cruise missiles, of all types. Both the Mk. IIXX and Mk. XXI missiles (standard anti-everything on the ground and anti-ship respectively), which both have a ~3000km range. So all the airbases in England, Scotland, and Ireland, and Denmark can hit you, even in Moscow.


Except for the little fact that I'm not actually in Moscow. You're thinking of Dawn.

Quoting Evan Melick
Every man and piece of equipment you spend fighting us, is one less Cole has to face.


You seem to misunderstand: the forces currently dividing up China like a christmas roast are mostly Mongolian and Siberian; Everyone else is basically playing second, third and fourth fiddle.

Finn and Dawn could probably hold you off, I don't think Erik actually wants a war in which he won't get much even if he wins, and Japan, well, they're way overextended right now. A good shove and they'll lose everything they've worked for in Korea.

By either side.
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| July 23, 2010, 12:09 am
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Quoting Evan Melick
Also, those satellites will. Definitely. Burn. Up. In. Orbit.


You didn't check the updated post, did you?

Quoting Nick Shelton
That's what I was thinking. A million man army isn't all that awesome when most of it is conscript.


And when the enemy specializes in removing such conscript armies...?

Quoting Dr. Spontaneous
You're a fractured state, re-initializing old sentiments from decades lost. The Russian proper of modern holdings has since shifted its armed policy. As I see, most of the Russian initiative is still "in the works" within the BEAR while most of Western Europe has standardized military promise with the pushing of the European Union of old. We're equally matched.


Half a dozen fractured states, actually.
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| July 23, 2010, 12:12 am
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Quoting Aree't'sa C


You seem to misunderstand: the forces currently dividing up China like a christmas roast are mostly Mongolian and Siberian; Everyone else is basically playing second, third and fourth fiddle.


That is until India comes in at the last moment and saves their rears from getting kicked...


Or fails miserably and is forced to retreat, based on the outcome of Awe's sim...
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| July 23, 2010, 12:13 am
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Actually, I assumed Ultra was going into southeastern, skipping Tibet entirely.
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| July 23, 2010, 12:17 am
Quoting Evan Melick
Bwing it, wittle boi. >:[

I take it after we're done with China we'll be facing one of you buggers who just won't die.....
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| July 23, 2010, 12:18 am
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Quoting Evan Melick
Well remember Ultra, you are trying to push forces out of heavily entrenched positions in the Himalayan mountains. Again, not exactly the best place to be trying to attack someone in.

That's why we have snipers. And, of course, the good ole reliable Mungusi.
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| July 23, 2010, 12:18 am
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Quoting Evan Melick
Well remember Ultra, you are trying to push forces out of heavily entrenched positions in the Himalayan mountains. Again, not exactly the best place to be trying to attack someone in.


That would require there be forces entrenched there already, who didn't divert to do something about the sudden influx of 65-odd thousand russians across the border not too long ago.
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| July 23, 2010, 12:20 am
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Quoting Evan Melick
Well. Honestly, if the war becomes ridiculously pointless, a cease-fire might be in order.
So once the BEAR looks over at you after finishing up its Chinese food, then you'll back down?
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| July 23, 2010, 12:23 am
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I'm glad to see everyone this active. I guess this war is doing good for the group.

Now, time to research the geography of south China and make Ultra's report.

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| July 23, 2010, 12:24 am
There's also a little thing called time. Time is what divided the Siberian and Mongol attacks. Time is what it took for Chinese forces to mobilize against us. TIME is what came between OUR invasions and Ultras. Do you really think that a country which is being attacked along its entire northern border has TIME to place heavily entrenched troops in an area that is of negligable imprtance?
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| July 23, 2010, 12:25 am
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Indian forces have advanced up into the mountains, receiving and giving heavy fire. Really, nothing else is happening. Either this will draw troops away if India starts winning, or India will be repulsed.
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| July 23, 2010, 12:32 am
Quoting Ian Macdonald

As soon as I saw it ws you this little "Ian Voice" switch flpped in my head and I think I read it exactly as you would have said it....
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| July 23, 2010, 12:38 am
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Quoting John Dawn
So once the BEAR looks over at you after finishing up its Chinese food, then you'll back down?


Unless the bear has gastric discomfort.

Chinese food is supposed to be a bit like Indian food: you eat it, if you like that sort of thing it's yum, and then your guts start churning and all of a sudden, it's not so yum.

Then you go rushing off to the head, and wish you had babywipes on hand.

Now I've left you with this disturbing mental image, I have to attend to some things. Back in a few minutes.
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| July 23, 2010, 12:40 am
Quoting Ian Macdonald
entire northern border

*and it's western
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| July 23, 2010, 12:41 am
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Quoting Aree't'sa C

Unless the bear has gastric discomfort.

Chinese food is supposed to be a bit like Indian food: you eat it, if you like that sort of thing it's yum, and then your guts start churning and all of a sudden, it's not so yum.


Hey, I can handle Indian food fine. In fact, I can handle almost all styles of Asian food fine. I have quite the liking for Middle Eastern style nomz... In fact, the food I dislike most is English. Hmm...

Eh, no one likes England anyway.

>.>
<.<

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| July 23, 2010, 12:44 am
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Quoting Aree't'sa C

Unless the bear has gastric discomfort.

Chinese food is supposed to be a bit like Indian food: you eat it, if you like that sort of thing it's yum, and then your guts start churning and all of a sudden, it's not so yum.

Then you go rushing off to the head, and wish you had babywipes on hand.

Now I've left you with this disturbing mental image, I have to attend to some things. Back in a few minutes.
I guess a strong stomach is a blessing then,

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| July 23, 2010, 12:46 am
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A further 20 full regiments (yes, India has that many men to draw off of, and more) of now-trained infantry is come up for service and are being deployed to the front.

Eight armored regiments of the new M45s are also being deployed (still with the annoying fresh-paint bubbles, I'll need to have my factories tamper with the mixtures).

All naval ports are now operational and in production, a good idea since the war in the Pacific is likely to leak into the Indian Ocean any time now.

A new generation of supersonic fighter/bombers is on the drawing board, soon to take life. Things are getting going fast...
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| July 23, 2010, 12:49 am
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Quoting Ultramarine .
A further 20 full regiments (yes, India has that many men to draw off of, and more) of now-trained infantry is come up for service and are being deployed to the front.


Four divisions? Not very much, if they don't have the IFVs to carry them around.


Which, in other news, is why only around a quarter of my full military is 100% up to spec.
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| July 23, 2010, 1:02 am
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Quoting Awesome-o-saurus The Not-So-Great

Hey, I can handle Indian food fine. In fact, I can handle almost all styles of Asian food fine. I have quite the liking for Middle Eastern style nomz...


Well, if you grow up eating it, that's one thing.

You know, most asians are lactose intolerant? Yup.

Quoting Awesome-o-saurus The Not-So-Great
In fact, the food I dislike most is English. Hmm...

Eh, no one likes England anyway.


Care for some Black Pudding, dear chap?

Or how 'bout some Haggis, ya wee laddie? Put some meat on yer bones and fahr in yer bellie, ey?



.../horrid accent. You know, a Haggis is actually just a giant sausage. With whiskey.
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| July 23, 2010, 1:05 am
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Quoting Aree't'sa C

Four divisions? Not very much, if they don't have the IFVs to carry them around.


Which, in other news, is why only around a quarter of my full military is 100% up to spec.

They shall be carried into battle on the backs of my tanks, if necessary!

But you are right. Jumping into a war with a developing country that has tanks, infantry, and support aircraft with no real fighters and no navy means I've got a lot of work to do in a very short time.
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| July 23, 2010, 1:07 am
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Quoting Ultramarine .
They shall be carried into battle on the backs of my tanks, if necessary!

But you are right. Jumping into a war with a developing country that has tanks, infantry, and support aircraft with no real fighters and no navy means I've got a lot of work to do in a very short time.


You know, if you were a member of the B.E.A.R., you'd probably have a much easier time of it.

Quoting Ultramarine .
They shall be carried into battle on the backs of my tanks, if necessary!


http://mocpages.com/moc.php/131246
We did it first.

Quoting Evan Melick
If you're looking for a nice place to hang out and discuss military MOC'ing, sign up here:

http://brickbattlefield.proboards.com/index.cgi

We're looking to get it more active, but behave.


How active is it?

Average number of posts per day?
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| July 23, 2010, 1:13 am
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Quoting Aree't'sa C

Well, if you grow up eating it, that's one thing.

You know, most asians are lactose intolerant? Yup.



I didn't grow up eating it. In fact, I only recently discovered I liked Lebanese food... However, if I secretly grew up in the Middle East and my whole childhood is a lie, that would explain so much about me.
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| July 23, 2010, 1:30 am
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Quoting Aree't'sa C

http://mocpages.com/moc.php/131246
We did it first.


http://www.flickr.com/photos/thenotsogreat/4226996144/in/set-72157622056447215/
And we did it before you. Kind of.
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| July 23, 2010, 1:31 am
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Alot of British food I would never eat, but I am quite partial to fish and chips.


Anyways, this satellite situation isn't good. Rather than using MY weapon, we must deactivate the satellites and set them on a crash course. Oh goody.
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| July 23, 2010, 9:28 am
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Quoting Chairman Ham
Anyways, this satellite situation isn't good. Rather than using MY weapon, we must deactivate the satellites and set them on a crash course. Oh goody.

BEAR currently has the situation under control.
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| July 23, 2010, 11:07 am
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Quoting Brendan Dore
If you can have railgun satellites, then I can have N. Korea.

Technology and people are different.
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| July 23, 2010, 11:50 am
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Quoting Brendan Dore
And people are easier to manipulate into surrendering. Just ask Skynet.

Not when they extremely dislike your internal organs.
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| July 23, 2010, 12:10 pm
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It seems Japan is only saying they surrendered early so that they will have troops to combat the incoming PCU and BEAR. North Korea's surrender may be just a faction, like Himmler in the final days of WWII.

I did the same exact thing in Argentina, and was criticized, what's the deal.
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| July 23, 2010, 12:18 pm
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Quoting Nick Shelton
It seems Japan is only saying they surrendered early so that they will have troops to combat the incoming PCU and BEAR. North Korea's surrender may be just a faction, like Himmler in the final days of WWII.

I did the same exact thing in Argentina, and was criticized, what's the deal.


Because, Nick, did you learn nothing from all the childhood stories of good vs. evil? Take Air-a-gawn for example: While the good guy gets to betray the master race of Humanity, er, get new Elf genetics, and his own dragon, going around and causing massive civil war, famine, and conflict everywhere, the bad guy who has done nothing but allow such evil as the slave trade while sitting around and keeping peace is still the bad guy.

Good guys get away with things (except in Wheel of Time), bad guys don't (except in the real world). Nick mah boi, you are a bad guy.
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| July 23, 2010, 12:24 pm
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Quoting John Dawn
BEAR currently has the situation under control.

So, exactly what would it take to get into the 'B.E.A.R.' clan?
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| July 23, 2010, 12:26 pm
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Quoting Awesome-o-saurus The Not-So-Great

Because, Nick, did you learn nothing from all the childhood stories of good vs. evil? Take Air-a-gawn for example: While the good guy gets to betray the master race of Humanity, er, get new Elf genetics, and his own dragon, going around and causing massive civil war, famine, and conflict everywhere, the bad guy who has done nothing but allow such evil as the slave trade while sitting around and keeping peace is still the bad guy.

Good guys get away with things (except in Wheel of Time), bad guys don't (except in the real world). Nick mah boi, you are a bad guy.

Pretty much. But don't tell anyone that, they'd get angry. Oh wait.
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| July 23, 2010, 12:31 pm
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Quoting Brendan Dore
Are I teh bad guy?


Not you, Nick. Anyone against Nick is usually a good guy. People who are with him, like me, Rocky, and BEAR are bad guys. Because I'm pretty sure Nick and the Pacific Union is the designated villain of this game. We were already on that path in RA-CAS-UNS.
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| July 23, 2010, 12:35 pm
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Quoting Awesome-o-saurus The Not-So-Great

Not you, Nick. Anyone against Nick is usually a good guy. People who are with him, like me, Rocky, and BEAR are bad guys. Because I'm pretty sure Nick and the Pacific Union is the designated villain of this game. We were already on that path in RA-CAS-UNS.

I won nearly all the New World! I would own more, but they made this rule where Americans can't be in Europe, Africa, or Asia. Somehow, Weagle, Asians, Europeans, and Africans can take American lands though...
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| July 23, 2010, 12:38 pm
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Quoting Nick Shelton
I won nearly all the New World! I would own more, but they made this rule where Americans can't be in Europe, Africa, or Asia. Somehow, Weagle, Asians, Europeans, and Africans can take American lands though...


That's my rule, son. Not yours. And not theirs, obviously...
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| July 23, 2010, 12:41 pm
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But Nick, Argentina surrendered after less than three days! That doesn't make any sense.
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| July 23, 2010, 3:19 pm
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Quoting Chairman Ham
But Nick, Argentina surrendered after less than three days! That doesn't make any sense.

Neither does North Korea surrendering, or that there are 23 flavors in Dr. Pepper.

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| July 23, 2010, 4:23 pm
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Quoting Ultramarine .
So, exactly what would it take to get into the 'B.E.A.R.' clan?


Not very much. An application, a vote, if the majority of the members say 'Y' you'd be in, otherwise, you'd just have to try again a few months later.
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| July 23, 2010, 4:55 pm
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Quoting Brendan Dore
And people are easier to manipulate into surrendering. Just ask Skynet.


Except for the minor fact the Koreans HATE the Japanese. For good reason, too.
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| July 23, 2010, 4:56 pm
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Quoting Aree't'sa C

Except for the minor fact the Koreans HATE the Japanese. For good reason, too.


Indeed. Mostly because of everything the Japanese did to them back in WWII. Ironic Japan is helping China as well, China hates Japan too. It's like how all the American states look down on New Jersey, but worse, because they actually hate each other.


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| July 23, 2010, 5:43 pm
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Quoting Awesome-o-saurus The Not-So-Great

Indeed. Mostly because of everything the Japanese did to them back in WWII. Ironic Japan is helping China as well, China hates Japan too. It's like how all the American states look down on New Jersey, but worse, because they actually hate each other.


"Gee, you smell bad, did you spend too much time in New Jersey?"
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| July 23, 2010, 5:56 pm
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Quoting Brendan Dore
Don't be hatin'. Unless you're hating on the guidos. You can do that.

What we got here is a Situation!

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| July 23, 2010, 6:08 pm
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With the ADCC having served in a united matter for quite some time, the bill has been passed for a singular representative integration (annexation in other words; save for Britain). Since the ADCC's foundation just some time ago all things promised within the premise of the Atlantic doctrine have been met and are due to increase; trade, defense, and equal voice. The voting will commence within the next week and while that goes along Spain, Portugal, Morocco, and Western Sahara have been labeled "temporary protectorates". Defense will be upped so the public may undergo its protesting or celebrations without the worry of vulnerability.
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| July 23, 2010, 7:54 pm
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http://www.flickr.com/photos/40712407@N06/4822578574/?addedcomment=1#comment72157624443273781

The PCU has unveiled the new utility vehicle for the Armed Forces, the MLV-1 Bulldog.
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| July 23, 2010, 8:17 pm
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Hey everyone, I'm here for a limited time on a computer.

Anyway, in light of WWIII, Oceania is declaring Neutrality. The Navy will be doing excercies in the waters around Australia, New Zealand, and pretty much everywhere under our control, as well as air force patrols being increased.

If anyone interferes with my protective navy, then shame on you.

Also, I ask very politley (with pleases, thank yous, and bambi eyes) for the agressors in this war to leave Indochina alone. I promise I will be invading there, as soon as I get my tanks from Awe.


Meanwhile, since enough time has elapsed, we are close to fully taking Malawi, the capital is surrounded, and we are undergoin Malawian surrender terms under the threat of total anihilation by us.
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| July 23, 2010, 8:36 pm
And so Awe, I ask you this: are you in dire need of a FM? Also, imma back!
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| July 23, 2010, 8:53 pm
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Quoting Dr. Spontaneous


Something tells me ex-colonies won't be happy about union. Then again, something else tells me half the New World doesn't like the Pacific Empire conquering them.

Anyways. Bulgaria! Our toughest opponent yet, after Italy. In Blagoevgrad province, the evil forces of the Roman Empire have seized land up to the town of Kresna. The entire southwestern border lands have been taken, if not exactly secure, as our the Serbian part of the army attacks Kyustindel the town itself and Zemen and Breznir in the Pernik area.

Quoting Finn C-Q
And so Awe, I ask you this: are you in dire need of a FM? Also, imma back!


Nope.
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| July 23, 2010, 9:16 pm
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Quoting Awesome-o-saurus The Not-So-Great
Something tells me ex-colonies won't be happy about union. Then again, something else tells me half the New World doesn't like the Pacific Empire conquering them.

Why is everyone so partial? Europe is a vastly advancing continent. Having been the home of most modern wars, colonialism and old sentiments and such have since been removed from confronting policy. As it stands, the European Union of our day is constantly pushing for a united federalist system. What does that mean? The United States of Europe, per se. Because most of the players of this theme are Anglo-Americans, I can see why we constantly persuade ourselves of past clauses and issues; however, we shouldn't be as blind as the East as to favor these prejudices. The West remarks and teaches history to grant faith to the people of new, not to curse in vehemence.

Plus, I already lost my major player of Algeria. I'm not losing these states after pumping resources into them to make them cattle of my choosing. >_>
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| July 23, 2010, 9:25 pm
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Quoting Dr. Spontaneous



I wasn't condemning you no more than I condemn Cliffe for mysteriously making the extreme Islam problem in his Middle Eastern territories go away. No am I condemning you more than I condemn Nick for managing to take over a great deal of the world in a month. No more than I condemn Brendan for making Korea surrender to people they really don't like, or BEAR pulling millions of soldiers out of the wastes of Siberia.

Or spaceships built in a month.

Or me allying two powers that have a lot of bad blood between them and putting an insane man on a newly-restored throne of a long dead empire.

>.>

<.<

I'm just pointing out things, that's all.

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| July 23, 2010, 9:30 pm
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Quoting Aree't'sa C

Not very much. An application, a vote, if the majority of the members say 'Y' you'd be in, otherwise, you'd just have to try again a few months later.

Ok! What does it get me?
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| July 23, 2010, 9:30 pm
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Quoting Awesome-o-saurus The Not-So-Great
I'm just pointing out things, that's all.

Understood. Still, the argument stands for those who care to oppose.

In other news, the French Marines in Rome will be offered service to our Roman allies to serve as a security force in any selected areas while you conduct excursions in the southwestern islands and northeastern continent. If not needed, they'll withdraw at once and begin temporary gendarmerie services in North Italy until a proper defense force command may be established.
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| July 23, 2010, 9:35 pm
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Quoting Dr. Spontaneous


In other news, the French Marines in Rome will be offered service to our Roman allies to serve as a security force in any selected areas while you conduct excursions in the southwestern islands and northeastern continent. If not needed, they'll withdraw at once and begin temporary gendarmerie services in North Italy until a proper defense force command may be established.


Sounds good. With more of ours forces still wrapping things up in the islands, and now our unwarranted invasion of Bulgaria, I could use some help. We'll need to begin work on the buffer zone too.
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| July 23, 2010, 9:38 pm
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Quoting Awesome-o-saurus The Not-So-Great

Sounds good. With more of ours forces still wrapping things up in the islands, and now our unwarranted invasion of Bulgaria, I could use some help. We'll need to begin work on the buffer zone too.

Alrighty. On note of the buffer zone, all I see needed to be done will be to honor the predetermined boundary we agreed on in terms of military activity, throw a few security booths on major highways, and maybe higher a few private security folks to act as a non-bias patrol unit. For the moment, we'll have to secure the zones next to the border and then gradually withdraw. Conclusively, if we just honor the terms we've discussed, minimal dollars and effort will be needed in the area.
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| July 23, 2010, 10:02 pm
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Quoting Ultramarine .
Ok! What does it get me?


Free trade arrangements, mutual protection and a vote in the affairs of the B.E.A.R.

So in other words, it basically makes you an equal province in a giant, unwieldy nation. Which doesn't have a central government, so the provinces just vote amongst themselves.

It gets a little messy, sometimes.

There is a restriction, though, in that if the majority of the alliance votes for something, such as to start or end a war, all the members are required to abide by that decision.

On the other hand, if anyone declares war against a member, all the members are automatically at war with them. So it also makes you more or less safe from overt action, unless the rest of the planet decides to get rid of those dirty russkies no matter the cost.
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| July 23, 2010, 10:15 pm
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Quoting Dr. Spontaneous
Conclusively, if we just honor the terms we've discussed, minimal dollars and effort will be needed in the area.


Agreed. You draw the boundries, we both honor the agreements, and hope the Italians as passive enough to accept their new overlords, er, protectors, and all should be well.
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| July 23, 2010, 10:28 pm
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If no one else is going to do it, then I shall. STOP RIGHT THERE!

People of the B.E.A.R. and India, this is absurd. I grumbled at Mongolia joining your unholy alliance. But this takes the cake. None of you have even thought of the vast cultural differences of Russia and India. Lets look at the latter for an instant. Part of the Nuclear Weapons club. World's second largest country. A rising power. More than half of American businesses have their customer service there. Etc. A country that is proud of their independance, one whose people would not so willingly assimilate into an alliance and lose it's identity. Economic benefits? Doesn't need them. Defense? Are you kidding me? So no, no, and no to you.
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| July 23, 2010, 10:35 pm
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Quoting Chairman Ham
If no one else is going to do it, then I shall. STOP RIGHT THERE!

People of the B.E.A.R. and India, this is absurd. I grumbled at Mongolia joining your unholy alliance. But this takes the cake. None of you have even thought of the vast cultural differences of Russia and India. Lets look at the latter for an instant. Part of the Nuclear Weapons club. World's second largest country. A rising power. More than half of American businesses have their customer service there. Etc. A country that is proud of their independance, one whose people would not so willingly assimilate into an alliance and lose it's identity. Economic benefits? Doesn't need them. Defense? Are you kidding me? So no, no, and no to you.

You know what else is wrong? German-Americans!
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| July 23, 2010, 10:36 pm
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Quoting Chairman Ham
If no one else is going to do it, then I shall. STOP RIGHT THERE!

People of the B.E.A.R. and India, this is absurd. I grumbled at Mongolia joining your unholy alliance. But this takes the cake. None of you have even thought of the vast cultural differences of Russia and India. Lets look at the latter for an instant. Part of the Nuclear Weapons club. World's second largest country. A rising power. More than half of American businesses have their customer service there. Etc. A country that is proud of their independance, one whose people would not so willingly assimilate into an alliance and lose it's identity. Economic benefits? Doesn't need them. Defense? Are you kidding me? So no, no, and no to you.


Can't see any problems, myself.

For one thing, the alliance doesn't assimilate. It facilitates. It's a loose framework of nations that simplifies trade and so forth and provides security.

Society doesn't come into it. Yeah, there might be a tiny bit of crossover with the increased tourism and so forth, but really, that's been happening for years. It's not like they change the educational systems or anything.


And 30 years in the future? It's safe to assume things have stagnated. Borders remain unchanged for decades, that says there's not wars going on. No increased trade and so forth, no expansion, alliances, nothing. It's like every nation in the world signed a treaty to ignore everything else on the planet for thirty years.

Complain at that, if you want.
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| July 23, 2010, 10:43 pm
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Quoting Nick Shelton
You know what else is wrong? German-Americans!


I can't even think of words to describe this stupidity. Think before you speak.
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| July 23, 2010, 10:44 pm
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Quoting Nick Shelton
You know what else is wrong? German-Americans!


Prusso-Egyptians.

American-South Americans.

Greco-Turkish Romans.


Satellites smashing into Europe and nobody noticing. C'mon, that was about seven hours ago.
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| July 23, 2010, 10:46 pm
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What's worse then German-Americans? Slavic ethnicities being forced under one flag again. Which is why I'm evil but no one sees it because Nick is more of a threat.

Or so you think. Man, MOCpages comments could use some HTML.
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| July 23, 2010, 10:48 pm
Quoting Aree't'sa C

Satellites smashing into Europe and nobody noticing. C'mon, that was about seven hours ago.

Ploowie

Anywho, you get my FM?
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| July 23, 2010, 10:50 pm
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Quoting Awesome-o-saurus The Not-So-Great
What's worse then German-Americans?


Again with the think before you speak. I would be insulted if this was on purpose.

And that's insulted in italics.
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| July 23, 2010, 10:52 pm
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Quoting Chairman Ham

Again with the think before you speak. I would be insulted if this was on purpose.

And that's insulted in italics.


You think before you speak. I'm Italian, German, and Irish American. Stand down, boi.
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| July 23, 2010, 10:53 pm
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Quoting Chairman Ham

Again with the think before you speak. I would be insulted if this was on purpose.

And that's insulted in italics.

It was on purpose. >.>
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| July 23, 2010, 10:54 pm
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Quoting Chairman Ham

Heil myself! (loosely quoted from "Springtime for Hitler")


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| July 23, 2010, 11:11 pm
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Quoting Chairman Ham

Well, heil me then! (loosely quoted from "Springtime for Hitler")


I hope you learned your lesson about speaking to other German-Americans in such a hostile manner.
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| July 23, 2010, 11:13 pm
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Quoting Chairman Ham
If no one else is going to do it, then I shall. STOP RIGHT THERE!

People of the B.E.A.R. and India, this is absurd. I grumbled at Mongolia joining your unholy alliance. But this takes the cake. None of you have even thought of the vast cultural differences of Russia and India. Lets look at the latter for an instant. Part of the Nuclear Weapons club. World's second largest country. A rising power. More than half of American businesses have their customer service there. Etc. A country that is proud of their independance, one whose people would not so willingly assimilate into an alliance and lose it's identity. Economic benefits? Doesn't need them. Defense? Are you kidding me? So no, no, and no to you.

Well, you're right. I'm fine being allies and all with common belligerents, but if I want to continue a war then I'll continue it. I'm not a big fan of the UN, so I probably won't join B.E.A.R. anyhow.

Plus, the membership dues are probably obscenely high...
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| July 23, 2010, 11:18 pm
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Quoting Awesome-o-saurus The Not-So-Great

I hope you learned your lesson about speaking to other German-Americans in such a hostile manner.


Nyah.

Oh and by the way Nick, we can speak whatever language we want to. I'm sorry ours isn't mostly Spanish and Portugese.
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| July 23, 2010, 11:21 pm
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Quoting Chairman Ham

Nyah.

Oh and by the way Nick, we can speak whatever language we want to. I'm sorry ours isn't mostly Spanish and Portugese.
Oh gee, hardy harr harr harr.

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| July 23, 2010, 11:31 pm
The MIT-01 has been put into service, after the capture of San Fernando. Several convoys are currently making their way to Caracas, while two ships were ordered to break off from the blockade to deal a heavy blow to the beach defenses, hopefully letting us attack from both North and South.

So far the task forces sent to search for FARC bases have not found much, although several cocaine operations have been shut down, potentially weakening the FARC's economy. The task force has not yet encountered any guerilla forces yet, we suspect that several main encampments are located in Venezuela, and possibly others in PCU territory. However our first goal is to get them out of Great Colombia.
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| July 23, 2010, 11:31 pm
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Quoting Nick Shelton
Oh gee, hardy harr harr harr.


As we say in Manlius:

"It's funny cuz it's true!"

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| July 23, 2010, 11:33 pm
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http://www.flickr.com/photos/40712407@N06/4823017946/

REDEEMER Missile variant of the MLV-1 Bulldog
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| July 24, 2010, 12:06 am
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What would seem to be WWIII has taken another turn today, with more BEAR troops flooding into China, starting to rival the armies of the Chinese in size (who knew Russia had so many people). The Finnians are pushing further east in the deserts and mountains of Western China, while, the Siberians and Mongols have linked up and are throwing everything at the south. Both sides are loosing large numbers of aircraft.

In the South, more and more Indians have arrived to assault the Chinese entrenchments, using planes and artillery to try and root them out, to only partial success. If the Indians break through, the Chinese are in major trouble. But if they move troops to the south, the Russians will have total advantage.

The PCU special ops guys dropped in previously are doing their business during the bombs, by the Chinese are closing in on them.

In Iceland, much to the surprise of the Brits (sorry old chaps), the Russian defenses were rigged to blow, taking out several dozen men before they learned to keep away from the hastily built bunkers. More surprise for the Brits: The Russians have spies and agents everywhere. Upon launching cruise missiles, it was discovered that some would randomly turn around and hit their own ships, causing much confusion. About a dozen British vessels have been hit by their own weapons, though none have been sunk. I'll leave it to Evan if he wants to stop firing and re-program all the missile's targeting, so he doesn't have to deal with the peskiness of missiles that don't do what they're told to do.

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| July 24, 2010, 12:47 am
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Quoting Awesome-o-saurus The Not-So-Great
More surprise for the Brits: The Russians have spies and agents everywhere. Upon launching cruise missiles, it was discovered that some would randomly turn around and hit their own ships, causing much confusion. About a dozen British vessels have been hit by their own weapons, though none have been sunk. I'll leave it to Evan if he wants to stop firing and re-program all the missile's targeting, so he doesn't have to deal with the peskiness of missiles that don't do what they're told to do.

So, what you're telling me as that through WWI, WWII, the Cold War, and in the time of Islamic Radicalism the British didn't learn a single method of counter-espionage, intelligence gathering, or proper command structure? Hallo blasphemy.

Oh, and on note of the numerous Russians, as it stands in this timed theme Russia is expected to be within the lowest part of Stage 4 and transitioning into Stage 5 of the demographic transition model. That means your military is being packed with men in their latter 40s and 50s. Good show.
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| July 24, 2010, 12:57 am
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As of now all IRA forces have ceased firing.
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| July 24, 2010, 1:10 am
Quoting Ultramarine .
Well, you're right. I'm fine being allies and all with common belligerents, but if I want to continue a war then I'll continue it. I'm not a big fan of the UN, so I probably won't join B.E.A.R. anyhow.

Plus, the membership dues are probably obscenely high...

So lemme get this straight. You're getting involved in a land war in Asia - WW3 - on the winning (or so I'd like to think) side, with the same goals as us..... and you don't want to join up?
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| July 24, 2010, 1:57 am
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Quoting Evan Melick
Hmm. India joined BEAR?


No. They decided not to join the revenant Warsaw Pact.

Quoting Evan Melick
The Red Fleet in the Baltic will continue containment and long range missile assaults on any BEAR military target that presents itself within 3000km, heavily enphesizing destroying IRA ships and port facilities.


Red Fleet... that sounds very communist. Great job, Airstrip One!

What about Alenian ships? I'm planning to have some of my thousand-odd Nenavidet class battleships take a trip to Iceland for training exercises.

Quoting Dr. Spontaneous
So, what you're telling me as that through WWI, WWII, the Cold War, and in the time of Islamic Radicalism the British didn't learn a single method of counter-espionage, intelligence gathering, or proper command structure? Hallo blasphemy.


Oh no, perish the thought. But the guys who did it were both well trained, completely unexpected and very, very lucky.


Oh, Awe? I'd like to congratulate the fellow who came up with this brilliant scheme. Did any of the troops or their equipment get caught and traced, or is the originator of this fiendish act unknown?

Because if the latter, I suppose they (you know who you are) will just have to be content with being hidden for the time being.

Quoting Dr. Spontaneous
Oh, and on note of the numerous Russians, as it stands in this timed theme Russia is expected to be within the lowest part of Stage 4 and transitioning into Stage 5 of the demographic transition model. That means your military is being packed with men in their latter 40s and 50s. Good show.


Which means...?

Quoting John Moffatt
So lemme get this straight. You're getting involved in a land war in Asia - WW3 - on the winning (or so I'd like to think) side, with the same goals as us..... and you don't want to join up?


No, he doesn't want to take the chance of getting absorbed.

Also:
RESISTANCE IS FUTILE!
YOU WILL BE ASSIMILATED!
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| July 24, 2010, 2:09 am
Either by choice or by other means. Actually, we'll have to deal with Japan after China's over
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| July 24, 2010, 2:11 am
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Bohemia's annexation of Hungary is going rather smoothly, but the logistics of it all do take time. Talks with Romania have gone nowhere as of late. Romania feels that Bohemia's superior economy and political standings are not needed. If we fail to come to an agreement, a invasion of Romania is imminent.

Quoting Awesome-o-saurus The Not-So-Great
More surprise for the Brits: The Russians have spies and agents everywhere. Upon launching cruise missiles, it was discovered that some would randomly turn around and hit their own ships, causing much confusion. About a dozen British vessels have been hit by their own weapons, though none have been sunk. I'll leave it to Evan if he wants to stop firing and re-program all the missile's targeting, so he doesn't have to deal with the peskiness of missiles that don't do what they're told to do.

That wouldn't actually be possible based on the guidance/targeting system and the SOP (Standard Operating Procedure) of a launch, that is currently employed on modern TLAMs. I think the Brits would realize if their own missiles had their own ships as the target coordinates; realize that the order to launch and the target location goes through the chain of command. If target coordinates were changed during launch (which wouldn't really be possible being that the target change would have to go through the chain of command, once again), the Brits would be highly capable of shooting down any incoming missiles or to issue a "self-dustruct" sequence. Unless the Russians infiltrated the Royal Navy's chain of command and the MI6 were just sitting around doing nothing, then what you described wouldn't be possible. There's a reason it doesn't happen in real life.
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| July 24, 2010, 2:15 am
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IRA military and requisitioned civilian transports are being sent from the Baltic to Iceland to begin moving forces, government, and some populace off Iceland, so as to see a peaceful transition of rulers.
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| July 24, 2010, 2:18 am
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Quoting Shk Ad Aw
That wouldn't actually be possible based on the guidance/targeting system and the SOP (Standard Operating Procedure) of a launch, that is currently employed on modern TLAMs. I think the Brits would realize if their own missiles had their own ships as the target coordinates; realize that the order to launch and the target location goes through the chain of command. If target coordinates were changed during launch (which wouldn't really be possible being that the target change would have to go through the chain of command, once again), the Brits would be highly capable of shooting down any incoming missiles or to issue a "self-dustruct" sequence. Unless the Russians infiltrated the Royal Navy's chain of command and the MI6 were just sitting around doing nothing, then what you described wouldn't be possible. There's a reason it doesn't happen in real life.
Ah, but you can have a computer show one thing but do something else. They see what they think are the correct coordinates and after launch the missile hits a nearby ship, and if they are close enough there isn't time for a self destruct. otherwise a computer virus could spot a self destruct signal from being sent.

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| July 24, 2010, 2:23 am
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Quoting Shk Ad Aw
Unless the Russians infiltrated the Royal Navy's chain of command and the MI6 were just sitting around doing nothing, then what you described wouldn't be possible. There's a reason it doesn't happen in real life.


I guess that did happen, then. Because I don't know nothing about military protocol. Sadly, I'm the only person who can do this who isn't involved in the war.
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| July 24, 2010, 2:26 am
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Quoting John Dawn Ah, but you can have a computer show one thing but do something else. They see what they think are the correct coordinates and after launch the missile hits a nearby ship, and if they are close enough there isn't time for a self destruct. otherwise a computer virus could spot a self destruct signal from being sent.

When it comes to military equipment, that can't really happen (especially when it's highly advanced as in the Brit's case). Even if they did find some way to get ever single device involved in the launching of a TLAM to show something else, the radar and other tracking system would still be able to pick up how the missile is traveling and respond in the correct manner. To my current knowledge, there really is no way to block the "self-destruct" sequence because of the way it works/technology behind it and how you go about activating it. There's just no way you would've been able to "infect" every single device (involved in the launching/use of a TLAM) on every ship (ships are not networked, so you'd have to put this "virus" onto every ship, which just wouldn't be possible.) Also, keep in mind that the MI6 has had decades of experience in counter-intelligence and wouldn't be completely oblivious to any Russian espionage.
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| July 24, 2010, 2:40 am
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Quoting Shk Ad Aw
When it comes to military equipment, that can't really happen (especially when it's highly advanced as in the Brit's case.) Even if they did find some way to get ever single device involved in the launching of a TLAM to show something else, the radar and other tracking system would still be able to pick up how the missile is traveling and respond in the correct manner. To my current knowledge, there really is no way to block the "self-destruct" sequence because of the way it works/technology behind it and how you go about activating it. There's just no way you would've been able to "infect" every single device (involved in the launching/use of a TLAM) on every ship (ships are not networked, so you'd have to put this "virus" onto every ship, which just wouldn't be possible.) Also, keep in mind that the MI6 has had decades of experience in counter-intelligence and wouldn't be completely oblivious to any Russian espionage.
Ah but all the ships are networked, otherwise they wouldn't know where has already been hit, so one virus would work it gets transfered with the updated positions to attack and then spreads through out the ship.

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| July 24, 2010, 2:44 am
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Gee, I sure wish someone told me about MI6's 1337 h4x before my post. I guess that's what happens when I don't research the nations behind the players.
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| July 24, 2010, 2:46 am
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Quoting Awesome-o-saurus The Not-So-Great
Gee, I sure wish someone told me about MI6's 1337 h4x before my post. I guess that's what happens when I don't research the nations behind the players.
or when the players don't put their anti-terrorism agencies on alert. O.o

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| July 24, 2010, 2:49 am
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Quoting John Dawn
or when the players don't put their anti-terrorism agencies on alert. O.o

If we had to constantly babysit our agencies and tell the world about their use, how would they be effective? Obviously you're forgetting a bit of common sense in terms of operation.

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| July 24, 2010, 2:57 am
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Quoting John Dawn
Ah but all the ships are networked, otherwise they wouldn't know where has already been hit, so one virus would work it gets transfered with the updated positions to attack and then spreads through out the ship.
They are not "networked." Ships have limited data transfer, firewalls, quarantined access, podded command, etc. The communication methods/devices that allow other ships to know the status of one another have no relation to the type of devices/electronics involved in launching a missile. Radio/communication rooms on ships are strictly off-limits to the majority of the crew; not that you could spread a virus through the communication systems anyway. I know as a fact that this would just not be possible, which is why I will argue with you no further.
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| July 24, 2010, 2:59 am
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Quoting Dr. Spontaneous
If we had to constantly babysit our agencies and tell the world about their use, how would they be effective? Obviously you're forgetting a bit of common sense in terms of operation.
Well 911 happened, and then all the agencies stepped up their game.

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| July 24, 2010, 3:00 am
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Does all this technical stuff matter in a game with rail gun satellites and unions of Germany and Egypt?
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| July 24, 2010, 3:02 am
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Quoting Awesome-o-saurus The Not-So-Great
Does all this technical stuff matter in a game with rail gun satellites and unions of Germany and Egypt?

Plus you can't rewind history soo... I guess not.
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| July 24, 2010, 3:04 am
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Quoting Shk Ad Aw
There's a reason it doesn't happen in real life.


This isn't real life. This is real life, but with Hollywood Hacking and so forth.

Quoting John Dawn
Ah but all the ships are networked, otherwise they wouldn't know where has already been hit, so one virus would work it gets transfered with the updated positions to attack and then spreads through out the ship.


Le gasp! Cylons! It's so obvious now!

Quoting Dr. Spontaneous
If we had to constantly babysit our agencies and tell the world about their use, how would they be effective? Obviously you're forgetting a bit of common sense in terms of operation.


I put my Intsec on high alert a while ago. Publicly, so nobody does to me what just happened to the Brits.

If I'm going to play Russian Roulette with my own missiles, I'd like it to be voluntary. Which it isn't, for the English.
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| July 24, 2010, 3:12 am
Quoting Awesome-o-saurus The Not-So-Great

You had my guys go into the mountains, but forgot about the ones entering the places of india. Also see: Cole has gone off the radar, case anyone has not noticed.
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| July 24, 2010, 10:16 am
Amidst all the fighting, we Texans are happy that there is peace in America. That is why we are bolstering our defenses and preparing for this supposed World War to hit America. Because it it seems that everything becomes a World War when the PE gets involved.
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| July 24, 2010, 12:17 pm
WHERE ART THOU COLE? Have you given up?(jk,jk)

Anywho...
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| July 24, 2010, 12:22 pm
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Quoting Will G.
Amidst all the fighting, we Texans are happy that there is peace in America. That is why we are bolstering our defenses and preparing for this supposed World War to hit America. Because it it seems that everything becomes a World War when the PE gets involved.


Did you see my offer of selling you Mackinac class destroyers?
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| July 24, 2010, 12:59 pm
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Quoting Evan Melick
I'm not sure the Doctor's intentions, but I'm betting it's safe to say that the ADCC will be standing down from combat operations.

As it stands, the ADCC will be withdrawing from the Western Conflict. A majority of the forces sent ahead will be withdrawn with a minute few to serve as a sense of deterrence and will be put on security duty for any post-conflict partisan activity.
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| July 24, 2010, 3:45 pm
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Quoting John Moffatt
So lemme get this straight. You're getting involved in a land war in Asia - WW3 - on the winning (or so I'd like to think) side, with the same goals as us..... and you don't want to join up?

Let's just say that I like my individuality, and I'll make alliances when and where they best suit me.

*Insert Awe's weird eye thingys*

<.<
>.>

Like America allying with France against England and Germany, to turn around a couple hundred years later and ally with England against Vichy France and Germany...
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| July 24, 2010, 6:36 pm
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Quoting Chairman Ham

Did you see my offer of selling you Mackinac class destroyers?

I'll buy!
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| July 24, 2010, 6:44 pm
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Moving forward with the war:

India has deployed the newly developed (what isn't, from my country?) Ratel IFV/APC to speed up things in China and bridge the gap between rifles and tanks as far as infantry support goes.

A counter-spy agency is in the works, we shall see if it will take shape soon.
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| July 24, 2010, 8:45 pm
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'Bout time for an update on the Islamic Conquest(not that anyone cares anyway...)

UAC forces are advancing fairly quickly, but are taking heavy losses due to enemy geurillas. The civilian majority seems to generally accept our prescence, but ethnic war parties and gangs are giving us a tough time. The main government has been descisively defeated, and much of the enemy equipment has fallen victim to UAC airstrikes. We expect it to be a long, hard fight against the geurilla war gangs. 'Tis all for now...

By the way, I'm not able to be very active here, so if anything really important happens, I'd appreciate it if someone would shoot me a Flickr mail.
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| July 24, 2010, 10:23 pm
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I'm having ISP trouble recently: that is to say, I've run out of bandwidth and things'll get really expensive, really fast if I don't cut back.

So I'm going to be inactive until the start of next month.

Awe: my guys are just going to keep doing what they're doing at the moment.

And I'd like my special forces units to do genenerally unpleasant things to the enemy power grid.
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| July 24, 2010, 10:28 pm
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With BEAR closing in, domestic policy altering, the pressing of near-nation tension, and an inactive governing individual, France is obliged to withdraw its forces from China. Having served to protect major population centers and the like, this fight doesn't seem to be our own and no blood should need be shed. Upon removal, these men are labeled Peacekeepers granted their ammunition is only 1/4 of any military detail and there is no premise of an offensive force; engaging them is an international crime.

Moving along, the voting amongst the ADCC is seeing favor from Portugal and most of Spain. Morocco and Western Sahara are fearful of cultural clashes, economic downfall, and the event of the former leading to high partisan numbers. France has been encouraging that with Spain and ourselves alone, the Oro should stand strong in maintaining an inflation status. On note of the latter two discouragements, great protests have been made to remove religion and policy from being intertwined during these political preachings. Thus, free practice would remain a community standard and wouldn't prevail in causing harm to any ethnic minority or majority during these sensitive times. However, talk is nothing just when action is needed.
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| July 25, 2010, 3:10 am
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Hmm, I wonder if I can /force unite the rest of the Balkans...

Anyways, Roman forces are moving forward in Bulgaria.

War report coming later today, first I need to get back to Portland.
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| July 25, 2010, 12:24 pm
Quoting Jack Ford
'Bout time for an update on the Islamic Conquest(not that anyone cares anyway...)

UAC forces are advancing fairly quickly, but are taking heavy losses due to enemy geurillas. The civilian majority seems to generally accept our prescence, but ethnic war parties and gangs are giving us a tough time. The main government has been descisively defeated, and much of the enemy equipment has fallen victim to UAC airstrikes. We expect it to be a long, hard fight against the geurilla war gangs. 'Tis all for now...

By the way, I'm not able to be very active here, so if anything really important happens, I'd appreciate it if someone would shoot me a Flickr mail.

Very, very good and realistic. Seems you listened to me! :D
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| July 25, 2010, 3:46 pm
As of today, the Cuban Confederacy has put down its past of relying on militia and has begun to start a true military. With the help of the PCU, the CC has been able to get military vehicles, planes, boats and weapons.
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| July 25, 2010, 4:04 pm
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Quoting Dr. Spontaneous
engaging them is an international crime.


Then they had best surrender quickly.

In other news:
Nepal, Bangladesh, and Bhutan have all been annexed despite their unwillingness. In Thimphu (Bhutan), local citizens and remnants of the military held out for hours while Indian forces took the city house by house, room by room. Sporadic fighting continues throughout the region.

Nepal and Bangladesh have accepted the occupation with patience, hoping it is temporary. In the congress of India, representatives have been chosen to give the 'bad news' to their governments that India has put a '99 year' lien on their lands. All military resources and personnel of the three countries have been summarily impressed into service with India against China, calling it the 'Union of Four.' Those that take up arms against the 'Union' are imprisoned or executed based on the seriousness of the crime.

Another 5 divisions of infantry, and 2 armored divisions have been raised to renew the initiative against China. Recently constructed airbases at the front have allowed air cover to be scrambled in minutes, as well as allowing longer sorties against enemy forces.
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| July 25, 2010, 6:01 pm
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Quoting Ultramarine .
Then they had best surrender quickly.

How are they to surrender when they were never exemplified the premise of a declaration of war against the aggressive invaders? As it stands, they've been encouraged in defending evacuation routes and such in coherence with the civil population. Plus, they're withdrawing; you're host of threat means little.
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| July 25, 2010, 6:35 pm
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Quoting Dr. Spontaneous

How are they to surrender when they were never exemplified the premise of a declaration of war against the aggressive invaders? As it stands, they've been encouraged in defending evacuation routes and such in coherence with the civil population. Plus, they're withdrawing; you're host of threat means little.

So if my troops come up aiming weapons at them, they will lay theirs down, right?

'Cause if they start shooting, I'll be obliged to shoot back...

Or, I will deprive them of their weapons and pack 'em into a convoy and ship them west toward you. Sound like a plan?
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| July 25, 2010, 6:57 pm
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Quoting Ultramarine .
So if my troops come up aiming weapons at them, they will lay theirs down, right?

'Cause if they start shooting, I'll be obliged to shoot back...

Or, I will deprive them of their weapons and pack 'em into a convoy and ship them west toward you. Sound like a plan?

They're not on the frontlines; nor any offensive/defensive front. They've been ushering hither to and fro within the constraints of boundary nearing China's central heart. Plus, with 1/4 of any military supply of ammunition, I highly doubt they'd be picking a fight.

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| July 25, 2010, 7:08 pm
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Quoting Dr. Spontaneous
They're not on the frontlines; nor any offensive/defensive front. They've been ushering hither to and fro within the constraints of boundary nearing China's central heart. Plus, with 1/4 of any military supply of ammunition, I highly doubt they'd be picking a fight.

Pretty soon (I hope) the 'heartland' will become the frontline.

I want to know, in your own words, what will happen when they meet our forces face-to-face?
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| July 25, 2010, 7:12 pm
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Quoting Ultramarine .
Pretty soon (I hope) the 'heartland' will become the frontline.

I want to know, in your own words, what will happen when they meet our forces face-to-face?

I fear you misinterpret my meaning. The few men of mine sent to China are withdrawing completely and with haste. Seeing as they revolve around a platoon-based command, it should be no more than 120 hours (some of which have now passed) until they are no longer within the soil of war. Also, they are soldiers of deterrence and not conflict; as they were stated to be from the get-go. Although deterrence and conflict intertwine by some prospect, they do not resolve to be the same which means they do not actively engage targets for the sake of neutralizing the means of the enemy. As I see it, these men will be of no concern to the stagnant remains of the Chinese conflict by the midst of next week at greatest.
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| July 25, 2010, 7:25 pm
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Quoting Dr. Spontaneous
I fear you misinterpret my meaning. The few men of mine sent to China are withdrawing completely and with haste. Seeing as they revolve around a platoon-based command, it should be no more than 120 hours (some of which have now passed) until they are no longer within the soil of war. Also, they are soldiers of deterrence and not conflict; as they were stated to be from the get-go. Although deterrence and conflict intertwine by some prospect, they do not resolve to be the same which means they do not actively engage targets for the sake of neutralizing the means of the enemy. As I see it, these men will be of no concern to the stagnant remains of the Chinese conflict by the midst of next week at greatest.

So they will be out of there? Ok. I was understanding that you were leaving men there as an armed security force, yet calling it an 'International offense' if they were retaliated against.

Right then, I don't foresee any problems since you won't be there anymore. Thank you for clarifying.
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| July 25, 2010, 7:30 pm
Good. The less people I have to fight the better. Unless I want to fight them that is....
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| July 25, 2010, 7:40 pm
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We would like to ask a favor of our good friends over at Prusso-Egypt. We would like to possibly rent several airfields for safer troop transit to China. A.K.A., I can't find the range of the C-130/ I am too lazy to look harder.
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| July 25, 2010, 7:48 pm
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Quoting Will G.
Amidst all the fighting, we Texans are happy that there is peace in America. That is why we are bolstering our defenses and preparing for this supposed World War to hit America. Because it it seems that everything becomes a World War when the PE gets involved.

Cause we're frakkin awesome.
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| July 25, 2010, 8:04 pm
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Quoting Chairman Ham
We would like to ask a favor of our good friends over at Prusso-Egypt. We would like to possibly rent several airfields for safer troop transit to China. A.K.A., I can't find the range of the C-130/ I am too lazy to look harder.

The latest model, C-130J, has a range of roughly 5,250km. Add in another 30 years of technological development and you could roughly fair 5,600km if not more.
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| July 25, 2010, 8:08 pm
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Why would he need to ferry troops to China, if he hasn't declared war yet.

Gee, FM mah boi.
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| July 25, 2010, 8:20 pm
Which side will you be declaring war on then. us or them? And even if you're attacking us, why send a Hercules when a Globemaster could carry so much more?
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| July 25, 2010, 8:23 pm
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Quoting Nick Shelton


Got my flickr mail? It'll explain.
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| July 25, 2010, 8:48 pm
Quoting Chairman Ham
We would like to ask a favor of our good friends over at Prusso-Egypt. We would like to possibly rent several airfields for safer troop transit to China. A.K.A., I can't find the range of the C-130/ I am too lazy to look harder.

As long as you let us know your intentions via FM, go for it. Best use the ones in Egypt.
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| July 25, 2010, 9:12 pm
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Quoting Kaiser Pharaoh Cliffe
As long as you let us know your intentions via FM, go for it. Best use the ones in Egypt.


Don't want to deal with two potential enemy flight zones, do you?

War report by midnight, my time. I'm being lazy and neglecting to research every single aspect of countries I'm dealing with.
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| July 25, 2010, 9:19 pm
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Quoting Kaiser Pharaoh Cliffe
As long as you let us know your intentions via FM, go for it. Best use the ones in Egypt.


Nevermind, we have arranged midair refuelings with other countries.
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| July 25, 2010, 9:35 pm
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Malawi has been conquered and its remnants are now being absorbed into the OAfD.


And, because of riding tensions in Asia, and because we're bored, and because we want to make duje with our invasion promise, we are officially commencing with our attack on IndoChina.

In an overnight sneak attack, paratroopers were dropped by the hundreds into the Thai portion of the Malay peninsula. Air superiority over the area was quickly gained as F-40s from the carriers O.N.S. Melbourne, O.N.S. Darwin, and O.N.S. Taipei.

Our friends in Malaysia have been alerted to the attack prior to our arrival and have had time to establish their borders on the Malay peninsula,

meanwhile, transport helicopters have begun landing in the southern malay, transporting equipment, supplies, and more soldiers to set up a front. Full sea bombardment came in the morning hours and continued throughout today, as battleships, stealth cruisers, and destroyers hit home eliminating any targets along the beaches stretching up and down the coasts of the peninsula.

Towards the afternoon, the surprised Thai put up a rather rushed defense, but F-p40s were already there, and took out many of the advancing fighters and other aircraft. Enemy army movements, and also the positions of any large enemy ships are also being tracked, and appropriate measures are being taken to deal with them.

We will wait for the shipment of tanks from Rome before advancing into the more jungly areas of the Asian mainland.
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| July 25, 2010, 10:47 pm
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Another nation has decided to join the Roman Empire today...

Nah, just joking.

No, I lied. Several nations have agreed to join. Seeing as how joining an empire can sometimes be more beneficial than a glorious but futile last stand, the remaining Balkan states except Bulgaria have decided to unify and join the empire.

They have joined under the leadership of Cisco da Mongoose, to use his MOCpages name. He will have three MOCs shortly, until then, he isn't really doing anything. I have made it clear (to me at least) any attempt to leave the Empire will be met with most dire consequences. The Emperor's eye is now fixed on Bulgaria, his armies are moving.

Nations included in the newly-named Exarchate of Terbounia: Croatia, Bosnia and Herzegovina, and Slovenia. We've put Serbia north of the Danube, Montenegro, and Venice under their command as well. We already grabbed what the Venetians took (mostly to make Evan shake his fist) anyway, so it's good.

We will now sing songs of how awesome the Empire's capital is.
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| July 26, 2010, 12:35 am
Awe battle update, and where is Cole?
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| July 26, 2010, 1:07 am
Quoting Awesome-o-saurus The Not-So-Great
Another nation has decided to join the Roman Empire today...

Nah, just joking.

No, I lied. Several nations have agreed to join. Seeing as how joining an empire can sometimes be more beneficial than a glorious but futile last stand, the remaining Balkan states except Bulgaria have decided to unify and join the empire.

They have joined under the leadership of Cisco da Mongoose, to use his MOCpages name. He will have three MOCs shortly, until then, he isn't really doing anything. I have made it clear (to me at least) any attempt to leave the Empire will be met with most dire consequences. The Emperor's eye is now fixed on Bulgaria, his armies are moving.

Nations included in the newly-named Exarchate of Terbounia: Croatia, Bosnia and Herzegovina, and Slovenia. We've put Serbia north of the Danube, Montenegro, and Venice under their command as well. We already grabbed what the Venetians took (mostly to make Evan shake his fist) anyway, so it's good.

We will now sing songs of how awesome the Empire's capital is.

And I'm expecting the capital is being moved to Rome?
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| July 26, 2010, 1:11 am
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Quoting Finn C-Q
Awe battle update, and where is Cole?


Coming up, and no idea.
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| July 26, 2010, 1:13 am
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As of 0100 EST the IRA has sent up two shuttles to bring our satellites back online with the aid of the Alenians.
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| July 26, 2010, 1:21 am
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Meanwhile, as awesome happens in my empire, the war goes on in China. Indian forces are continuing with their heavy bombardment, and are slowly getting somewhere. The new planes are helping out against the depleted Chinese air force.

Up north, the Siberians and Mongols are meeting very heavy resistance from the Chinese, and the lines have come to a draw once more. But once they gain total air superiority, which is inevitable, things should move once again. Finn's forces have also been stalled, as Areetsa's guys hold position in north western China, fortifying in case of counter attack.

Pacific Union troops and vehicles have arrived in Siberia and Mongolia as well. They continue air raids.
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| July 26, 2010, 1:46 am
Wait, who is being raided?
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| July 26, 2010, 1:51 am
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Quoting Ian Macdonald
Wait, who is being raided?


China. The air raid part was in the PCU paragraph, I thought it'd make sense.
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| July 26, 2010, 2:00 am
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The PCU is very much pleased the Europeans have....disappeared...
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| July 26, 2010, 2:02 am
Quoting Ian Macdonald
Wait, who is being raided?

China, I think/hope
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| July 26, 2010, 2:02 am
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Quoting Kaiser Pharaoh Cliffe
And I'm expecting the capital is being moved to Rome?


Nope. Constantinople is a much nicer city (according to my English teacher who was there), it's aged better. Besides, it's more defensible and it's more central.
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| July 26, 2010, 2:32 am
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http://www.flickr.com/photos/40712407@N06/4829469637/
We here in Portland modified one of the existing prototypes and got this.
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| July 26, 2010, 3:30 am
Algeria, because of the growing tension in Africa has walled itself in, the number troops guarding the few highways leading through the Sahara have increased tenfold. Infantry, backed by spy drones and missile platforms regularly patrol the borders. Also,in anticipation of a large number of aircraft, airfields are being built around wells in the Sahara.
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| July 26, 2010, 11:12 am
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Quoting Brendan Dore
But Rome has the Pope...


... and the Popemobile. To the Popecave!

Vatican city does, not Rome. Rome is in Italy and the pope in Vatican city, two different countries.
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| July 26, 2010, 11:21 am
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Quoting Awesome-o-saurus The Not-So-Great
The new planes are helping out against the depleted Chinese air force.

Yeah, howdy!
Quoting Awesome-o-saurus The Not-So-Great
Pacific Union troops and vehicles have arrived in Siberia and Mongolia as well. They continue air raids.


Yeah, in response to your 'I hope we're not enemies,' we aren't. In fact, I'll loan you the use of some of my forward bases if you wish.
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| July 26, 2010, 11:34 am
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Quoting John Moffatt

Since I just started production, it might take a couple weeks until I have enough fighters to satisfy my own needs before I can start exporting. How many do you need? I could probably outfight you with 20-30 in three weeks.

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| July 26, 2010, 11:38 am
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As of 1000 EST: A task force of about 7,000 soldiers has set out for Cape Verde.
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| July 26, 2010, 11:44 am
Alright everybody, I'm now leaving for Florida once again.

HOWEVER, I will get internet every once in a while, so you will hear from me, but not too often.
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| July 26, 2010, 11:53 am
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Two squadrons of Mungusi bound for the front have been diverted to Bhutan to quell further resistance in the region, as well as an additional regiment. Their absence at the front has not been missed since the Bangladesh and Nepalese militaries have been deployed en force. The situation should be under control shortly.

Designs have been issued for coastal patrol ships to the ports for manufacture. We'll see how long that takes me...er...the workers to build.
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| July 26, 2010, 12:01 pm
*wishes he had something to contribute to the naval conflict*
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| July 26, 2010, 12:41 pm
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@Brendan: We also won because our supercarriers have the same guns outfitted on the destroyers mounted on the flight deck, that and our battleships arrived in the nick of time.
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| July 26, 2010, 3:00 pm
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Quoting Brendan Dore
But Rome has the Pope...


... and the Popemobile. To the Popecave!


The Pope is in the Vatican. And Rome has aged much worse than Constantinople. Not as much culture there in my opinion. My capital was only successfully breached twice in 1700 years, once by the trickery of the 4th Crusade, once by the cannons of the Turks. Rome has been sacked at least a dozen times.
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| July 26, 2010, 3:33 pm
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Quoting John Dawn
As of 1000 EST: A task force of about 7,000 soldiers has set out for Cape Verde.

And how exactly should they arrive there? By all means, your passage through north would be delayed for some time as the tensions die down.
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| July 26, 2010, 3:41 pm
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Quoting Dr. Spontaneous
And how exactly should they arrive there? By all means, your passage through north would be delayed for some time as the tensions die down.

By boat, and I said they set out, not that they were halfway there. If you are going to stop them be my guest but Evan probably won't because he is moving into Iceland.
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| July 26, 2010, 4:13 pm
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Quoting John Dawn
By boat, and I said they set out, not that they were halfway there. If you are going to stop them be my guest but Evan probably won't because he is moving into Iceland.

Nor did I imply they lead great distance. The fact remains that the world isn't fine and dandy during a post-war period which leaves increased eye and security granted you'll be quite near ADCC littoral zones. Plus, the cultural integrations seems rather misplaced. Having an extended zone with Portuguese as the tongue would mean great ethnic sensitivity.
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| July 26, 2010, 4:33 pm
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Quoting Dr. Spontaneous
Nor did I imply they lead great distance. The fact remains that the world isn't fine and dandy during a post-war period which leaves increased eye and security granted you'll be quite near ADCC littoral zones. Plus, the cultural integrations seems rather misplaced. Having an extended zone with Portuguese as the tongue would mean great ethnic sensitivity.

I understand that. And if any country has any issues with my ships cruising by then they can voice their opinions. And if there are ethnic issues that need to be resolved once we get there then they will.
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| July 26, 2010, 4:42 pm
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Quoting John Dawn
I understand that. And if any country has any issues with my ships cruising by then they can voice their opinions. And if there are ethnic issues that need to be resolved once we get there then they will.

My concern is the fact you're only a stone's throw away from ADCC coasts. As it stands, BEAR and the Atlantic have far separate policies and our standings aren't of the best regards. Thus, in a time of conflict, I see your presence being of negativity.
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| July 26, 2010, 4:54 pm
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Quoting Dr. Spontaneous
My concern is the fact you're only a stone's throw away from ADCC coasts. As it stands, BEAR and the Atlantic have far separate policies and our standings aren't of the best regards. Thus, in a time of conflict, I see your presence being of negativity.
And so was Iceland, which is why I lost it, I'm not going to lose another area of land for pretty much the same reasons. I'm already a stone's through away from you without those islands.

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| July 26, 2010, 5:13 pm
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In the wake of growing tensions on the water, the First, Second, and Third Naval Aero Squadrons have been formed and based at the three seaports. They are comprised of a proportionate number of Mk1 and BA1s (Mungusi) and serve as a coastal patrol/interference stop-gap until naval vessels are available to take over.
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| July 26, 2010, 10:28 pm
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Quoting Brendan Dore
Battleships? Link plz.


Here is our latest: http://www.flickr.com/photos/40712407@N06/4700017919/

Here is the first: http: //www.flickr.com/photos/40712407@N06/3945825383/

And here is one we got from our friends over in BEAR: http://www.flickr.com/photos/41313020@N02/4686474137/
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| July 27, 2010, 2:28 pm
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Quoting Nick Shelton
And here is one we got from our friends over in BEAR: http://www.flickr.com/photos/41313020@N02/4686474137/
Fav'd..... oh wait....

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| July 27, 2010, 3:05 pm
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Quoting Brendan Dore
What the heck? Whenever I press "Lock this topic", it never locks! Stupid MOCpages...

It's an error with the pseudo-administration. Only Admins. can lock 'um.
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| July 27, 2010, 3:28 pm
Quoting Brendan Dore
What the heck? Whenever I press "Lock this topic", it never locks! _____d MOCpages...

Well, it is, because only admins can, but the server is messy
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| July 27, 2010, 3:34 pm
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