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International Conversation Forum XVIII
Quoting Brendan Dore
Use this one.

Sure
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| August 27, 2010, 11:50 am
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As of 1300 EST: Armenia has surrendered to IRA forces.

The invasion of Senegal goes as planned, with minimal opposition.
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| August 27, 2010, 1:26 pm
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@Ian: I was told that if a majority of the members decided not to invade an area or attack a country, all the members would be bound (by honor, if nothing else) to abide with the group decision. Besides, I like my individuality too much.

Don't worry about offending me, it rolls off like a duck's back... something with water goes in there somewheres.
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| August 27, 2010, 4:30 pm
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The Alliance is also a mutual protection arrangement.

The thing about the voting isn't really appliccable anymore. In practice, members just start wars and everyone else can join in if they want/are asked for help.

Because if you don't help your mate when he's in trouble, your other mates probably won't help you later.
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| August 27, 2010, 6:58 pm
Quoting Areetsa C
The Alliance is also a mutual protection arrangement.

The thing about the voting isn't really appliccable anymore. In practice, members just start wars and everyone else can join in if they want/are asked for help.

Because if you don't help your mate when he's in trouble, your other mates probably won't help you later.

Thats for sure!!!
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| August 27, 2010, 7:05 pm
Quoting Areetsa C
The Alliance is also a mutual protection arrangement.

The thing about the voting isn't really appliccable anymore. In practice, members just start wars and everyone else can join in if they want/are asked for help.

Because if you don't help your mate when he's in trouble, your other mates probably won't help you later.


Thanks for correcting me Areetsa. I knew I left something out.

Question: If we say we build something, say.. a magnetic launch system. Do we have to actually build it? I mean it's not like it can participate in wars or anything.
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| August 27, 2010, 9:33 pm
The war with Chad and the Central African Republic (now being called the sand war) has officially been ended. These regions are becoming 5 different USCA states. The Republic of Congo feels that with it's joining of the USCA already imminent, they are not requesting any land. Due to the lack of any civilian resistance, our Labour Corps are able to move into the country quickly and beginning repairing the damage caused by the war. Health officials have begun to organize the vaccinations of all new citizens. We are already receiving requests from our new citizens on how they can join the USCA Armed Forces, and we are expecting a large 15% growth of combat branches, and a 40% growth of the labor corps. Due to the relatively poor healthcare in our newly acquired states, we are bringing in 70,000 trained medical personnel from several European countries. The Hydro-Electric project is almost complete, and final preparations are being made for it's opening. Finland, France, and the Commonwealth will be the first nations to receive 1000 of the early versions of our new fuel cells free of charge as a Thank-You for their support. The cells will be commercially available in the USCA on September 2nd, and will only be available here for the first week of production. Anyone wishing to import these fuel cells please state so as soon as possible. We are also sending 12,000 troops to Finland for advanced armor/mechanized infantry training. With them we are sending 50 Jacksons and all of our Arctic Wolves. Our marines are also doing training exercises along with the Rep. Of Congo's marine units off the coast of the Rep. Of Congo. These exercises are meant to improve unit effectiveness and improve cooperation for the inevitable merging.
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| August 28, 2010, 12:16 am
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In a desperate attempt to stem the tide of the Pakistani assault, India launched a heavy counter-attack, with the arrival of fresh reinforcements, even as some of their forward positions were being overrun. Thousands of soldiers met and casualties were high on both sides.

Air superiority was hotly contested throughout the entire day, but thankfully still lies in our hands due to the masterful coordination between our air force and naval aircraft.

Operation Cobra stepped-off at noon and entailed a massive movement of soldiers, grenadiers, and special forces in Vietnam-era Huey air cav tactics, landing thousands of men in strategic areas (mostly behind enemy lines) to disrupt and/or halt the Pakistani advance. Huey Hogs and Phoenix choppers hung around for hours to do as much damage as possible in the vacuum of air support on the Pakistani side.

Most of the operational X-bombs have been launched at identified rallying points and other strategic targets (bridges, airfields, etc.) with about 60% accuracy, helping to turn the tide. Three were unfortunately intercepted, though.

With the air firmly in Indian control, generals know it is only a matter of time until the invasion can move forward again. Plans are being drawn up for a rapid and sweeping advance as soon as stabilization occurs.
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| August 28, 2010, 12:41 am
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Quoting Ian Macdonald


Speaking of your magnetic launch system, I've got a couple hundred tons of titanium I need to shove into orbit, do you think you could help with that?

In addition, do you know some people who're good with automation, nuclear weapon design and heat sinks?
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| August 28, 2010, 2:08 am
Well since Algeria only got a "we'll think about it" from chad before it was conquered we've decided to laugh in Chad's face and move on to bigger and better things. Mali is scheduled to be invaded tonight at ten. There were protests and a small riot in Niger, but after we had the president go out say a few fancy words, followed by a parade of our combined armed forces they calmed down (watching all those men in uniforms, holding guns will do that).
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| August 28, 2010, 3:15 pm
Upon analyzing prior conversation, the USCA is considering the possibility of invasion by a neighboring superpower. We are reacting to this threat by building an embassy in Prusso-Egypt, the Commonwealth, France, Bohemia, Finland, and all BEAR nations. We are also massing more troops on our north-eastern border. Also, an armoured convoy was recently ambushed by Chadian reinforcements, and after several similar instances we are initiating counterinsurgency operations around Chad. We expect all resistance to cease in about a week after crushing all Chadian units still in hiding. Due to the seemingly constant state of war we have been in, industrial production and internal stability are beginning to fall, however we expect these two factors to be fixed upon completion of the Hydro-Electric project.
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| August 28, 2010, 3:18 pm
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Quoting -> avalella
Upon analyzing prior conversation, the USCA is considering the possibility of invasion by a neighboring superpower. We are reacting to this threat by building an embassy in Prusso-Egypt, the Commonwealth, France, Bohemia, Finland, and all BEAR nations. We are also massing more troops on our north-eastern border. Also, an armoured convoy was recently ambushed by Chadian reinforcements, and after several similar instances we are initiating counterinsurgency operations around Chad. We expect all resistance to cease in about a week after crushing all Chadian units still in hiding. Due to the seemingly constant state of war we have been in, industrial production and internal stability are beginning to fall, however we expect these two factors to be fixed upon completion of the Hydro-Electric project.


Embassies in both Euro and BEAR nations? How...neutral.

The Chancellor has declared a state of war on the two Guinea's. The Afrika Korps struck from the south in Liberia, and from the east in the Ivory Coast. Fight they may, but they stand no chance to our superior forces.
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| August 28, 2010, 4:58 pm
The invasion of Afghanistan and Iran has started today, we are equipping all soldiers with Comms in case of getting lost in the dessert, also, our air force is doing continual bombardment on the capitals in hopes of heavy demorlization, though I think it'll only anger them. All for now. Also, in the other countries I invaded, the small rebellious groups are getting crushed, mostly.

Yes. And two million troops are attack one, and two mill in the other
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| August 28, 2010, 5:53 pm
As many of you can already tell, Finn isn't the, umm, smartest or most realistic in the group. I don't even know how he remains to be part of the BEAR, but Jack Ford should own most of Iran now, if you invade, you will first enrage all the Muslims of your nation and second, bring the wrath of Jack Ford upon your head.
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| August 28, 2010, 6:35 pm
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Yesterday morning, Sao Tome et Principe signed their official surrender and the forms to become a recognized Atlantic state. The forms were appropriated to Europe today and the minimal reconstruction needed on the isles should begin in the midst of next week. The economy should begin being switched over during the construction period. Another 800 soldiers will be withdrawn and sent to Western Sahara.

Aside from that, the offensive in Moldova goes a bit better. The boys sent to Glodyany were able to link up with several Finnish units and make a large enough press into the area. However, upon arrival in the urban center of the district an ambush was unveiled. Some forty-eight casualties have been reported; most minor due to increased body protection. Eventually, the MGS forces were able to begin eliminating targets accordingly in quick succession forcing an enemy retreat south-southeast. MCAPs were flown in to mop-up a bit, but were unable to do much with large calibre guns peppering their hides during strafing runs upon mobilized columns and thus shooting down two planes.

In the southern portion of Moldova, the boots in Chimishliya are now mostly Finnish. Atlantic troops have have been withdrawn to friendly airfields to launch another airborne offensive; this time near Komrat. Medium armour will be making a proper "L" maneuver towards said district in an attempt to catch up with the airborne boys and make a crossroads-esque position there for allied command to mobilize forces elsewhere.

On note of Mauritania, the complex of being surrounded by superpowers and being pressed to become an ally/protectorate of the ADCC has burdened their rather inexperienced governance. In turn, their government has been divided into two major factions: conservative republicans and nationalist liberals. This dubbed "policy civil war" may actually move the civilian population into an armed civil war. The hope now is to favor the nationalist liberals into gaining control through whatever means necessary or to at least bide time for the coalition occupation to begin within choice provinces.
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| August 28, 2010, 7:24 pm
The country of Zambia has decided to join the AMA. We hope now that Zimbabwe and Botswana will also be swayed to join.
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| August 28, 2010, 9:01 pm
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Quoting Will G.
As many of you can already tell, Finn isn't the, umm, smartest or most realistic in the group. I don't even know how he remains to be part of the BEAR, but Jack Ford should own most of Iran now, if you invade, you will first enrage all the Muslims of your nation and second, bring the wrath of Jack Ford upon your head.


Just let him do this and bring on the collapse of his nation yet again. Do it for the lawlz.
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| August 28, 2010, 9:14 pm
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Quoting Brendan Dore
Cliffe would know.


No, he's the guy I got the reactors off. He doesn't do nukes.

Quoting -> avalella
Upon analyzing prior conversation, the USCA is considering the possibility of invasion by a neighboring superpower. We are reacting to this threat by building an embassy in Prusso-Egypt, the Commonwealth, France, Bohemia, Finland, and all BEAR nations.


As long as you understand that while I can't speak for the others, my reaction to any espionage activities committed under the cover of diplomacy would very likely involve high explosives with any leftover body parts getting mailed back home.

So yeah, unless you really don't like that ambassador, you'd be better off not doing anything sneaky.
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| August 28, 2010, 9:21 pm
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Emergency mobilization is complete: all defensive positions are fully manned. While the situation is lowered a bit now, the troops will remain on station for additional advanced training.

Finland is watching the situation in Moldova intensely, and is offering to send 20 F-35s to provide CAS. Hopefully this will lower casualties.

GPMRV factories are being retooled to create uparmored versions. The new versions will be considered a light MRAP, with approximately level 2 mine protection.
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| August 28, 2010, 9:26 pm
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The PCU supports the Algerians in their strive for peace.
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| August 28, 2010, 9:56 pm
Quoting Nick Shelton
The PCU supports the Algerians in their strive for peace.

In hopes that one day, you may annex them to get a foothold in Africa.
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| August 28, 2010, 10:00 pm
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Quoting Will G.
In hopes that one day, you may annex them to get a foothold in Africa.

No, I kept to my promise that Europe and Africa is a PCU free zone.

LEAVE NICK ALONE.
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| August 28, 2010, 10:01 pm
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Quoting Will G.
In hopes that one day, you may annex them to get a foothold in Africa.

You really like laying down the smack talk even though you can't support it. I'm growing tired of it.
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| August 28, 2010, 10:03 pm
Quoting John Dawn
You really like laying down the smack talk even though you can't support it. I'm growing tired of it.

What, Nick, he wants land, it's obvious, Finn, he makes outrageous claims about his army size. If you call facts smack talk then I don't know what more I can say.

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| August 28, 2010, 10:06 pm
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Quoting Will G.
What, Nick, he wants land, it's obvious, Finn, he makes outrageous claims about his army size. If you call facts smack talk then I don't know what more I can say.
Then put it in a more respectful manner, every time I read your replies to Nick's comments, they seem filled with disdain.

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| August 28, 2010, 10:08 pm
Quoting John Dawn
Quoting Will G.
What, Nick, he wants land, it's obvious, Finn, he makes outrageous claims about his army size. If you call facts smack talk then I don't know what more I can say.
Then put it in a more respectful manner, every time I read your replies to Nick's comments, they seem filled with disdain.

Maybe, if you wanted mine and Nick's relationship to have not been so bad, then you shouldn't have offered me smallpox in the first place.
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| August 28, 2010, 10:10 pm
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Quoting John Dawn
You really like laying down the smack talk even though you can't support it. I'm growing tired of it.

Exactly. He talks the talk, but when confronted, calls on others to fight for him.
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| August 28, 2010, 10:11 pm
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Quoting Will G.
Maybe, if you wanted mine and Nick's relationship to have not been so bad, then you shouldn't have offered me smallpox in the first place.

Yeah probably, but then again I never expected you to survive so, oh well. I must have better alternatives next time.


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| August 28, 2010, 10:12 pm
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Quoting Nick Shelton
No, I kept to my promise that Europe and Africa is a PCU free zone.

LEAVE NICK ALONE.


But I notice you haven't said anything about Asia or the Near East...

Quoting Will G.
What, Nick, he wants land, it's obvious, Finn, he makes outrageous claims about his army size. If you call facts smack talk then I don't know what more I can say.


And Will, he does big-time evil things like gassing airports and then gets off scot-free.
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| August 28, 2010, 10:13 pm
Quoting Nick Shelton
Exactly. He talks the talk, but when confronted, calls on others to fight for him.

Now, I have an Army. Now I can defend myself. But, I can't stop from being in part of the Glorious German Empire.
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| August 28, 2010, 10:13 pm
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Quoting Will G.
Now, I have an Army. Now I can defend myself. But, I can't stop from being in part of the Glorious German Empire.

With Texans nowadays being so proud of the fact that they are independent and can leave the US anytime they want, they seem pretty happy to be under German rule.
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| August 28, 2010, 10:15 pm
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Quoting Will G.
Now, I have an Army. Now I can defend myself. But, I can't stop from being in part of the Glorious German Empire.

Pish-posh, as I've stated many times, I don't fear Cliffe.

@Areetsa: >.>

Asia is mah home boi.
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| August 28, 2010, 10:16 pm
Quoting Areetsa C

But I notice you haven't said anything about Asia or the Near East...

Quoting Will G.
What, Nick, he wants land, it's obvious, Finn, he makes outrageous claims about his army size. If you call facts smack talk then I don't know what more I can say.


And Will, he does big-time evil things like gassing airports and then gets off scot-free.

And John Dawn, he calls me out on smack talk, when the main hostilities were caused by him. Oh I smallpoxed and airport, boo-hoo it killed 35 people, he bombed roads, with people evacuating on them.
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| August 28, 2010, 10:17 pm
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Quoting Will G.

And Will, he does big-time evil things like gassing airports and then gets off scot-free.

And John Dawn, he calls me out on smack talk, when the main hostilities were caused by him. Oh I smallpoxed and airport, boo-hoo it killed 35 people, he bombed roads, with people evacuating on them.

Not people. Rebels. Rebels lose citizenship immediately, and I do not weep over dead rebels. You sir, are a Rebel.
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| August 28, 2010, 10:19 pm
Quoting John Dawn
With Texans nowadays being so proud of the fact that they are independent and can leave the US anytime they want, they seem pretty happy to be under German rule.

Think about it like this, Texas fought a war and won independence from Mexico, then they joined the U.S. after they realized they couldn't be so small, so in debt, and survive.
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| August 28, 2010, 10:19 pm
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Quoting Will G.

Main hostilities were caused by your rebellion.
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| August 28, 2010, 10:20 pm
Quoting Nick Shelton
And John Dawn, he calls me out on smack talk, when the main hostilities were caused by him. Oh I smallpoxed and airport, boo-hoo it killed 35 people, he bombed roads, with people evacuating on them.

Not people. Rebels. Rebels lose citizenship immediately, and I do not weep over dead rebels. You sir, are a Rebel.

I am the Governor of the Federation's State of Texas.
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| August 28, 2010, 10:21 pm
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This is sure interesting, things could get heated. I'm glad I happen to be surrounded by allies. Like Erik, Shock, and Cliffe.

Wait.

At least Erik and I are honor-bound not to go to war.
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| August 28, 2010, 10:21 pm
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Quoting Will G.
Not people. Rebels. Rebels lose citizenship immediately, and I do not weep over dead rebels. You sir, are a Rebel.

I am the Governor of the Federation's State of Texas.

You are the Governor of the Sheep Surrounded by Wolves.
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| August 28, 2010, 10:21 pm
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Quoting Will G.
And John Dawn, he calls me out on smack talk, when the main hostilities were caused by him. Oh I smallpoxed and airport, boo-hoo it killed 35 people, he bombed roads, with people evacuating on them.


He's the VILLAIN, what did you expect, flowers and kittens and gift wrapped unicorns?

Quoting John Dawn
Yeah probably, but then again I never expected you to survive so, oh well. I must have better alternatives next time.


You know, you could've blown him up from orbit before he joined Cliffe...
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| August 28, 2010, 10:23 pm
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Quoting Awesome-o-saurus The Not-So-Great
At least Erik and I are honor-bound not to go to war.

It's because I <3 you.
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| August 28, 2010, 10:24 pm
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Quoting Dr. Spontaneous
Quoting Awesome-o-saurus The Not-So-Great
At least Erik and I are honor-bound not to go to war.

It's because I <3 you.


Indeed. I <3 you back. Of course, in a totally manly way.

>.>


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| August 28, 2010, 10:26 pm
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Quoting Areetsa C

You know, you could've blown him up from orbit before he joined Cliffe...

.....drat.....
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| August 28, 2010, 10:27 pm
If I was like Nick, I would have joined this group as Texas, and had all my old land, but I chose a different alternative, a joke. Now I pay for it, but I like this experience, it's much more realistic than orbitally bombarding my enemies and sending invasion forces in the millions. Or going on a two week period of economic recovery and then invading another nation.
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| August 28, 2010, 10:31 pm
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Quoting Awesome-o-saurus The Not-So-Great

Indeed. I <3 you back. Of course, in a totally manly way.

>.>


I <10 you gaiyz.
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| August 28, 2010, 10:34 pm
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Quoting Will G.
If I was like Nick, I would have joined this group as Texas, and had all my old land, but I chose a different alternative, a joke. Now I pay for it, but I like this experience, it's much more realistic than orbitally bombarding my enemies and sending invasion forces in the millions. Or going on a two week period of economic recovery and then invading another nation.

Hush. I pay for all that military spending by having near collapse and rebellion, and then recovering for over a month without doing anything. But once that month and a half is over, stuff is going down.
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| August 28, 2010, 10:36 pm
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Quoting Will G.
If I was like Nick, I would have joined this group as Texas, and had all my old land, but I chose a different alternative, a joke. Now I pay for it, but I like this experience, it's much more realistic than orbitally bombarding my enemies and sending invasion forces in the millions. Or going on a two week period of economic recovery and then invading another nation.


Finn's the one who does the millions of invaders, and nobody's been bombarded from orbit yet. Oh, other than Ham or whoever in Iceland, but nobody cares about that. Or your smallpox.

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| August 28, 2010, 10:36 pm
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Quoting Will G.
sending invasion forces in the millions.
But you did that, In the beginning, to Finn and they were all parachuted in.

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| August 28, 2010, 10:41 pm
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To everyone who's complaining about time scales: this group has time accellerated by around 2x. So if someone spends two months not doing anything? If this were reality, it'd have been four months of inactivity.

That's how people can build fleets of entirely new warships in less than three months.


And Finn? Well, I regret he's got his set to 8x. Just multiply any time scales he gives you by 8, and divide any army sizes he provides by 8. So, if he invades you with 2 million soldiers? It's probably closer to 250,000, which is still a lot.
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| August 28, 2010, 10:42 pm
Quoting John Dawn
Quoting Will G.
sending invasion forces in the millions.
But you did that, In the beginning, to Finn and they were all parachuted in.

Hence the joke. I chose Iran so I could be a joke when Cliffe's group was new. A clown the exact opposite of what I would really do.
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| August 28, 2010, 10:43 pm
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You guys better not go to war, I haven't finished mah stuff yet. Dang black pieces....
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| August 28, 2010, 10:50 pm
Quoting Ham N' Biscuits
You guys better not go to war, I haven't finished mah stuff yet. Dang black pieces....

Flickrmail soon.
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| August 28, 2010, 11:08 pm
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Quoting Will G.
Flickrmail soon.


I interpret that as you sending me one, but since I've been waiting awhile, I don't know.
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| August 28, 2010, 11:21 pm
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The PCU (to alleviate maintenance costs) is sending our stock of IF-1s and MT-2s to Algeria. Also tagging along for the ride is 50 LAH-1s and 60 Hawk type VTOLs.
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| August 28, 2010, 11:36 pm
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Quoting Evan Melick

Good God people.

/rant


I prefer to praise the Caupo myself... But yea, I have a partial excuse. Mostly because all my armies are engaged right next to home and I have a very good source of income.
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| August 28, 2010, 11:36 pm
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Quoting Evan Melick
And frankly in Roman tradition (although unfortunately not so much in later Byzantine) you don't much care what they do as long as they pay their taxes. It's not like you're ra ping their land of resources, and ruining their lives.


Indeed. Though I may take the Justinian path and just make my outlying territories exarchates, like I've done for Cisco. Pretty much self-rule for allegiance to the emperor, not a bad deal.
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| August 28, 2010, 11:47 pm
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Quoting Evan Melick
You use a modified Theme system?


Yea, I plan to implement one. Outlying areas, such as Cisco's Trebounia and Southern Italy will be made into exarchates, while I chop up the rest of the empire into the Theme system. There's a big plan to everything, but I don't intend to reveal the whole thing yet.
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| August 28, 2010, 11:54 pm
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Quoting Evan Melick
Ahh well, I look forward to it!

If you care, which you probably don't I plan to be starting an alternate history chronicling the Byzantine Empire right before it's fall, starting in 1399, and going through to 2010, hopefully managing to keep the empire alive.


Oh, I care greatly. But why 1399? I think a better time to have started it would be right before the civil war in the 1340s and black death, when the empire still had a chance to recover.

Or you could go back earlier, to the 4th Crusade, or to the failed attack on Konya (I forgot the name of the pass where they got ambushed by Turks), possibly even to the disaster at Manzikert.

I really think these things through, you see.
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| August 29, 2010, 12:03 am
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Quoting Evan Melick
Unfortunately, I wish I could. Frankly I believe the Komnenos where Byzantium's greatest chance to thrive.

I'm basing it off Europa Universalis III, and then porting it to Victoria II, then carrying on the story to modern times, and the earliest start date EU offers is 1399. :(


Ah, a pity. If Basil II had left heirs as capable as him, they chances of the empire surviving until now would be a lot greater. Even better than the Komnenoi (I think that's their plural), who were pretty legit as well.
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| August 29, 2010, 12:10 am
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Quoting Evan Melick
Yeah, well, it is a bummer. I'll look up Basil, just for kix.

Anyway, I'll be sure to let you know when I get it off the ground, as soon as I finish up my current 19th century re-creation of Byzantium project I'm working on now.


Excellent, to both. Basil II was pretty hardcore. He got 40,000 men on mules from Bulgaria to Syria in 16 days.
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| August 29, 2010, 12:20 am
Quoting Will G.
As many of you can already tell, Finn isn't the, umm, smartest or most realistic in the group. I don't even know how he remains to be part of the BEAR, but Jack Ford should own most of Iran now, if you invade, you will first enrage all the Muslims of your nation and second, bring the wrath of Jack Ford upon your head.

Your nice, your really nice, now tell me how Texas even has a military, after all that? Also see.... I'm canceling both in cations. But the population from Vhina gave me both mill.and, I looked at the ma and Jack was not marked down. I question howyou stillremain a country

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| August 29, 2010, 1:23 am
Well, let's see, my estimate is correct, and I conscipt, as stated early on, and some/all that replied said that it was okay...

I am really considering killing Will, Once. And. For. All. I can estimate my several states and provinces can kill Texas if Nick/Ham don't mind, and if I could, I'll give you the land. /angst
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| August 29, 2010, 1:31 am
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I want/beg everyone to know this model: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demographic_transition

This is the model that shows what your population will actually consist of in these future dates. It is your guide to active military power. It is your friend. It is your lover. Thank you.
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| August 29, 2010, 1:44 am
Quoting Areetsa C
Quoting Ian Macdonald


Speaking of your magnetic launch system, I've got a couple hundred tons of titanium I need to shove into orbit, do you think you could help with that?

In addition, do you know some people who're good with automation, nuclear weapon design and heat sinks?


Hey, for you. Anything. I'll even wave the launch cost.

As for the nuclear specialists. They are... uh, busy. I suggest pinning down Cliffe for those roles.
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| August 29, 2010, 1:50 am
Sigh, I am so so annoyed with this group... Ah well. Uh... Well anyway, it was a thought, so imma let troops on leave and stuff, yep yep. And just sit around like Areetsa has been doing, and Evan, do you not remember giving me that chunk of China on the map with water, now? Hmm?
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| August 29, 2010, 1:50 am
So, whoever h@tes me say "eye", I suspect Brendon, Will, Ham, Evan, and some Arabs
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| August 29, 2010, 1:52 am
Quoting Dr. Spontaneous
I want/beg everyone to know this model: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demographic_transition

This is the model that shows what your population will actually consist of in these future dates. It is your guide to active military power. It is your friend. It is your lover. Thank you.
Thanking you

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| August 29, 2010, 1:54 am
Quoting Finn C-Q
Quoting Dr. Spontaneous
I want/beg everyone to know this model: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demographic_transition

This is the model that shows what your population will actually consist of in these future dates. It is your guide to active military power. It is your friend. It is your lover. Thank you.
Thanking you

Thank god the party instituted reimbursements for having larger families!
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| August 29, 2010, 1:57 am
Quoting Evan Melick
You have to come through the Caribbean to get to Texas.

And I don't hate you.

Honestly, I hate no one, I just want people to realize that this group needs to not be "LOLOLOLOLOL I CAN HAZ INVASION 45 MILYIN TRUPS", and people need to actually look at their nation, find their strengths, and play the game with as few bul lsh it things as possible.

Chripe.

Having an invading army in excess of 1 million troops(sum total: Artillery, logistics, supply, ect..) is not that unreasoneable. If a nation is truly focused on a war the amount of dedicated combat personel is quite high. Especially in nations where the people are highly nationalistic and/or are being conscripted.

Why, in 1941 Germany invaded russia with over 3 million men. This is not even focussing on the the forces manning the atlantic wall, the men in the Afrika Korp, or the numerous armies situated in France, Belgium, ect. Even failing to mention some of the volunteer divions that they raised: The wahloony, ( not sure of the spelling) anti partisan groups or that volunteer mountain divion with the guys in fezzes.

My point is. Standing armies for todays nations are quite low because there is no serious nation on nation combat. Lets say that the cold war went sour and hostilities ensued in Europe. Do you really think that the amounts of soldiers participating would have been less than a million?

If one nation is quite focused on conquering another the sum total of all there strength will be focused on that task. There won't be isolated combat groups going it alone or surgical strikes against mabey 300 men. It will be full on war. People won't be sitting around waiting to be bombed. They're going to get up and join the cause.

/rant
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| August 29, 2010, 2:10 am
Thanks Ian and Evan
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| August 29, 2010, 2:12 am
Quoting Finn C-Q
Thanks Ian and Evan

I'm just trying to do the same as Evan. But the thing is that nations are big. Really big. In full on war things get streamlined. They guy on the street will just as soon be a soldier as the guy next door or your baby sitter(not implying you have one). Evan is absolutely correct in what he says. But he forgets that timetables and beurocracy dont adhere well to round the clock carpet bombing.
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| August 29, 2010, 2:17 am
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The problem is, not everyone is as knowledgeable as some on these affairs. I'd consider myself relatively knowledgeable, but compared to Evan and Erik, we're all fools. I've never had any classes about managing a nation nor anything close to it (ironically, I did take a class about it, but it was so mismanaged nothing happened), and my interests lay in history, not current affairs. If we were playing a medieval version of this game, things might be different for me.
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| August 29, 2010, 2:18 am
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I'm not going to argue any further than this comment, but I'm siding with Evan on this one.

The World Wars were in the time of nationalist society. They took pride in their nation because they had slick tongues and had just started utilizing larger media sets as an effective method for winning hearts. Plus, most of those states were either in turmoil or feeding off the pleasure of those in chaos. Large movements of focus.

Fastfoward to post-modern societies and you have liberal trends that are more globalized because of the same methods that won over nationalism. There are more skeptics and idealists who want a bigger picture than just mere fighting between nations; less primitive and more evolved nature. Sure if your homeland is being brutalized you'll want to fight, but at the same time you'll have a nation fleeing elsewhere as well. Instead of "fight or flight" it's almost always "flight" nowadays.

Another point is logistics as mentioned earlier. We're less than two decades into the future and yet almost all of us have become jingoist with massive defense budgets and disregard for demographics and ethnic issues. In contrast, the reality is that defense budgets are getting smaller and nations are becoming more sensitive. Not saying every single nation is like that, but Western societies are. So, we've pretty much made a pseudo-focus that will bankrupt ourselves. Good job, us.

And population is one of the biggest things I have an issue with. Although the government may pay you to create interim growth spurts, it's still their taxes. And they'll eventually catch onto that and it'll be just the same as a capitalist choice of having a baby for your own sake. Matured individuals want to make sure they can bank on their own accord before favoring Big Brother. Plus, you may have the children, but by this time (assuming you took power in 2010) most of them are just leaving the nest, per se.

Two cents. Not much, but it's out there. I'm not bagging on any one person either, we're all guilty in some way. And my grammar and spelling are probably atrocious due to the time on my side of the globe.

Love y'all. Less than three.
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| August 29, 2010, 2:36 am
Ah, okay. I think if Will could, he would ban me
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| August 29, 2010, 2:39 am
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Quoting Finn C-Q
Ah, okay. I think if Will could, he would ban me


If it was up to Will, he'd transfer this activity to the dead group where Texas is actually a power to be reckoned with.
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| August 29, 2010, 2:47 am
The UMN has succesfully captured the city of Palngkaraya. As fot the prisoners, they will be sent to POW camps asn for the Civilians, a temporaly camp outside the city. Our next objective is to capture the city of Balikpapan, IR no1 in oil producer. Capturing it will cause severe oil starvation to their military and can help speeding up the invasion.

That is all.
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| August 29, 2010, 3:09 am
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Quoting Evan Melick


My total army size is 700,000 troops. Which, plus ~4-5 mil is also my entire population, because blah blah military state. Of that, 700K, 300K are regular troops, and maybe 220K of them are fully equipped. The rest are second line "home guard" and police types who's job it is to stay home and show any invaders just how easy it is to get a hold of a T-72 in Russia if you have the right connections.

The 4-5 mil are mostly reserves in name only, being either too old or too valuable to send into battle. I mean, really, I could get maybe half a mil of them in the field, mostly armed only with their civil weapons. Any more than that and my entire country would probably start grinding to a halt.

As for population? I'm going on the assumption that the Russian Federation fell to pieces around 20 years ago, and the newly formed Alenia got all paranoid about these yellowskins immigrating and outnumbering the Rooskies and started providing big, big incentives for big, big families.


Oh, and I also have around 8240 men and women in Ameriland playing at nannies, assuming none of them have killed themselves off yet. Nick'll probably want to get rid of them before long.

Now, at the moment, I only actually have 5 divisions fully mobilized. Which is around 51,600 humans.

What can I say? My Motorized Rifle divisions have a lot of groundpounders.

The rest of them, they're going home for a well earned rest after conquesting their way halfway through Kazakhstan and China.

Quoting Finn C-Q
Sigh, I am so so annoyed with this group... Ah well. Uh... Well anyway, it was a thought, so imma let troops on leave and stuff, yep yep.


Don't forget the combat bonuses.
Well paid troops are happy troops, and unhappy troops set barns on fire just because.

Quoting Finn C-Q
...And just sit around like Areetsa has been doing...


I haven't been sitting around, I've been doing lots of interesting things mostly involving economy.

Filthy lucre is so much more valuable when you realize you're running out of it.

Quoting Finn C-Q
Evan, do you not remember giving me that chunk of China on the map with water, now? Hmm?


You'll have to go over Nick's territory (not too hard, with the right diplomatic things) and negotiate a peace arrangement with Cliffe after blowing up his vassal state (not exactly easy. Taxes, my lad. Cliffe likes 'em.)

Quoting Evan Melick

Good luck getting your ships there. You're completely landlocked, and any movement you do is going to be on chartered BEAR member ships I assume.


I don't think any of us have fleets, other than Ian. I know mine isn't very handy. Except for the 400 odd battleships, but, you know, battleships aren't much good.

Quoting Ian Macdonald

Hey, for you. Anything. I'll even waive the launch cost.

As for the nuclear specialists. They are... uh, busy. I suggest pinning down Cliffe for those roles.


That's very generous of you. As for Cliffe... mmm, I think he's a bit suspicious of ulterior motives where I'm involved at the moment.


Speaking of ulterior motives and filthy lucre, the Tunguska's captain took command in the last few hours.

There's room for 25 sciency types and their kit aboard, before the shakedown cruise to the Moon.

5 of those slots are offered to Siberia, in thanks for their cooperation in moving a great many very heavy objects into orbit.


Everyone else can buy crew room in 5 berth batches at a cost of 150 million ASCUs. And that includes the transport cost of the sort of equipment sciency types carry.

Getting the gear and scientists into orbit isn't really our problem. Considering anyone willing to pay the equivelant of 160 million PCU Smackers to get in on the only research team to the Moon in ~58 years probably shouldn't have too much trouble getting a hold of some form of single shot transport ship...

Three months around Luna, with shuttle trips to and back from a number of sites around the surface, should be worth the expenditure we think. As for colonizing? Well, as you may be able to expect, the customs fees and handling charges would be ruinous.

Except of course for dear friends like everyone else in the Villain Bloc, they get hefty discounts. Around a 70% discount. Which is big, when we're talking about that kind of money.

Here's proof I'm not just talking out of my pusher plate: http://mocpages.com/moc.php/222688
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| August 29, 2010, 3:37 am
The invasion of Mali is going well, or better than expected anyway. The Algerian air force managed to route the Mali air force. Of course our SMLs are all out of missiles, so an air attack could cripple our ground troops. However, with our new air superiority, that's doubtful. The new squadron of flying wings faced its first real combat test and is preceding with the bombing of various military bases. Meanwhile on the ground things are going quickly as the Mali armored divisions have yet to show up.
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| August 29, 2010, 7:58 am
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Quoting Areetsa C

I have a fleet, except Awe never mentioned them in the battle reports..... Actually he never mentioned anything about my forces in the battle reports for China.
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| August 29, 2010, 8:32 am
My God, Cliffe would never stoop so low as to take money for the deaths of 20-30 million people.
On a note about war with Finn, I wasn't trying to be hostile, but most of the BEAR wasn't hear when he claimed he had an army of 20,000,000 in Scandinavia. I didn't want that happening again.

If you go through on this invasion, you should know that Iran has a climate much different than Russia and China, and your men would need weeks of training to go through, even with the training I suspect many would sill have medical problems. You wouldn't want to deal with 1,000 troops passed out of a heat stroke while 5,000,000 para-military forces are coming at you, not caring if they die.
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| August 29, 2010, 10:30 am
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Once again, the Euro-East American forces triumph in making Finn look incredibly stupid. We should form an official alliance of sorts, like NATO.
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| August 29, 2010, 11:09 am
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@Finn: Plan things out. You have to see what you are going to have to do to get to Will, BEFORE you can declare hostilities. Also, if Will could ban you, I would've banned him.

@Will: 20-30 Million People aren't going to fight. If say, I invaded you, my military would not go to every house and shoot the occupants. There might be repercussions for rebelling, not once, but twice, and then making several hostile actions, but there certainly would not be genocide.
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| August 29, 2010, 11:27 am
Well, Will, last time you killed me...

Also, with all the areas invaded in total, I only have ar least 4 million. Anyway I am going to drop this disscussion.
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| August 29, 2010, 12:42 pm
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Quoting Evan Melick
Areetsa, that really is not a bad, completely unrealistic amount of troops, at all. With any luck, the ranting is over. And yeah, battleships are obsolete. :P

Anyway, my blockade is still in effect. So, no one send any combat troops or vessels anywhere near Texas. Kthx.

Sans me, because I'm literally right there, while your Navy is all the way over there.
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| August 29, 2010, 1:10 pm
The first dozen operators have mastered the use of UAVs and are now beginning to spread their knowledge to other prospects. Meanwhile, production has started on our own variant, albeit slowly
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| August 29, 2010, 1:11 pm
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The PCU has formally released control over Malta to the Maltese Government. They are a completely independent nation, so their color on the map should now return to dark grey.

The PCU and the Roman Empire have made pledges saying that if any country invades Malta, they will be met with the stiffest of opposition. Negotiations shall not work on these fellows, because once out of the strict PCU regime, they will be reluctant to give up that freedom.


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| August 29, 2010, 1:15 pm
Quoting Evan Melick

Haha, yes. Sorry for my massive text block. I'm a student of the second world war so I'm sure you can see how that reflects in my policies.
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| August 29, 2010, 2:04 pm
Quoting Areetsa C

5 of those slots are offered to Siberia, in thanks for their cooperation in moving a great many very heavy objects into orbit.


Thanks, our scientists have been dying to get a look at the geology of the moon. Hopefully you wont mind if we take along some expirements and scuh.
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| August 29, 2010, 2:08 pm
Quoting Evan Melick
High school, college?

High school. Though all my knowledge on the second world war would have been attained informally through many, many books.
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| August 29, 2010, 2:21 pm
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The IRA will be sending 40 T-80's along with 20 T-90 MBT's to the AMA. Some engineers will help their factories produce these tanks as well.

<And>

All IRA forces are withdrawing from Estonia and Latvia.
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| August 29, 2010, 2:29 pm
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Finland is sending a small military force to its newly acquired countries of Estonia and Latvia, along with specialists in government. The local government is being restructured to reflect that of Finland's government. The two nations' military's are being restructured to be a part of Finnish Armed forces. An aid package is being sent to Latvia to help promote economic growth. Transition to become fully assimilated is between one to two months.

Power lines leading to the IRA have begun to be made, and the sum of money in Oros is being transferred to IRA banks.
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| August 29, 2010, 2:49 pm
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I would honestly like to know why, for some reason, everyone is sending in tanks and crap to Algeria? I am many confuses.
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| August 29, 2010, 3:15 pm
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It didn't go through, and I can't wait, so lets try again.

Why, all the sudden, are people sending in tanks and stuff to Algeria?
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| August 29, 2010, 3:17 pm
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Quoting Ham N' Biscuits
It didn't go through, and I can't wait, so lets try again.

Why, all the sudden, are people sending in tanks and stuff to Algeria?

I did because I support them, I don't want to have to spend money keeping my old things I never use running, and I don't want them to be defeated by the Congo.
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| August 29, 2010, 3:20 pm
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Quoting Evan Melick
New plan to start a war. You need one.

I actually did it to cut spending. :P
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| August 29, 2010, 3:20 pm
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Nick's not running state property, and because Malta is really far away, it was really driving up maintenance costs.
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| August 29, 2010, 4:00 pm
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Quoting Ham N' Biscuits
It didn't go through, and I can't wait, so lets try again.

Why, all the sudden, are people sending in tanks and stuff to Algeria?

I sent some stuff to my cousin in the AMA.
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| August 29, 2010, 4:13 pm
Quoting Nick Shelton
The PCU supports the Algerians in their strive for peace.

Danke
Quoting Will G.
In hopes that one day, you may annex them to get a foothold in Africa.

Nick just likes to conquer, and if he wants land in Africa I have no problem with that, as long as he helps me get it.
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| August 29, 2010, 6:29 pm
It turns out the lack of tanks and armored vehicles was because of a large surprise attack on our left flank. Luckily the more advanced PCU equipment helped our Flank hold out long enough for help to arrive, and the invasion is continuing as planned. Armadillos have been sent out to various airfields, under the cover of fighters, in hopes of capturing them, giving the Algerian planes a much closer base of operations.
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| August 29, 2010, 6:37 pm
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As the tensions in Mauritania increase within their own governance, the amphibious assault group has mobilized to stalk the littoral zones of said nation. MCAP sorties are becoming regular with live munitions being used to make sure the planes still operate to standard in this harsh desert eviron. If a national resolution doesn't come into play, the occupation will be launched by end-week to protect the liberal faction in-nation; thus polarizing one half of the nation and acting as a catalyst for it to secede.

Also, security personnel in/near the Strait of Gibraltar have been re-organized and will begin exercises shortly. The goal is make sure things are still on par; no commercial vessels will be detained. The first completed Type-4 submarine of both the Napoleonic and Royal Navy will also be undergoing trial runs during this time.

As a late tack-on, the ADCC is pushing for the civil market to make an investment in hydroponic advancement. This will be another hopeful hand in aiding in future food production and offer more insight for agrochemistry as well. Eventually, the goal is to mesh hydroponics with vertical farming to create a more effective means of capital use.
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| August 29, 2010, 6:51 pm
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Quoting Ian Macdonald
Thanks, our scientists have been dying to get a look at the geology of the moon. Hopefully you wont mind if we take along some expirements and scuh.


Cargo space comes with the crew slots. There's no point having scientists somewhere without them being able to take along their equipment, is there? Is 5 tons about right?

Quoting Evan Melick
Areetsa, that really is not a bad, completely unrealistic amount of troops, at all. With any luck, the ranting is over. And yeah, battleships are obsolete. :P


I don't have nearly enough tanks and vehicles to equip them all, though.
And the average division has about 700 supply trucks of various types. The civil automobile corporations must be making a hundred fortunes.
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| August 29, 2010, 7:25 pm
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Finland, Latvia, and Estonia have announced now that they will make up the Baltic Alliance of Mutual Friendship (BAMF). The three countries will operate under a single government, while still having strong independent member state governments.

It will be formed once the governmental and military integration is complete.
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| August 29, 2010, 7:35 pm
Quoting Areetsa C
In addition, do you know some people who're good with automation, nuclear weapon design and heat sinks?

Aren't nuclear weapons a big 'no no' in this?
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| August 29, 2010, 7:42 pm
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Quoting Admiral A.C. 'Jake' Weagle
Aren't nuclear weapons a big 'no no' in this?


Only if you actually shoot people with them.
Collecting them just because is fine.
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| August 29, 2010, 7:46 pm
Quoting Ian Macdonald
High school. Though all my knowledge on the second world war would have been attained informally through many, many books.

Cool! I had went over to Holland and Paris, France for a school trip about 4 years ago when I was in High School. (It was awesome!!!)
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| August 29, 2010, 7:49 pm
Quoting Areetsa C

Only if you actually shoot people with them.
Collecting them just because is fine.

Ok, *blows dust off old nuke [expiration date March 1999] lolz
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| August 29, 2010, 7:51 pm
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Quoting Matt Hacker
Finland, Latvia, and Estonia have announced now that they will make up the Baltic Alliance of Mutual Friendship (BAMF). The three countries will operate under a single government, while still having strong independent member state governments.
B** A** M***** F*****?
It will be formed once the governmental and military integration is complete.

B** A** M***** F*****?
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| August 29, 2010, 7:59 pm
In Chad, counter-insurgency operations are being carried out effectively and several weapons caches have been seized. A small skirmish with former Chadian troops led USCA soldiers to a resistance HQ. After capturing many political and military leaders 3 other rebel groups surrendered. We expect to have eliminated all resistance before the upcoming elections. These elections will force us to improve security measures around the country, and our new states will now have proper leadership.
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| August 29, 2010, 8:42 pm
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Indians finally achieved front stabilization sometime late afternoon yesterday. Thanks in large part to recently gained air superiority.

The afore-mentioned aerial invasions met with rather good success, causing massive confusion and chaos in the enemy's back yard. Sukkur, Hyderabad, and several other cities are still in the process of being secured. Supplies and reinforcements are being rushed into these outposts as they have effectively become the front lines.

Mop-up operations are being conducted, it will be a couple days until full-scale operations can continue, and Islamabad has a big, red 'X' painted on it...

Naval task forces have broken up to deal with the remaining Pakistani fleet so it doesn't make a pain of itself in the future. A full barrage of freshly built 'X' bombs have been launched at targets in every port.

On the home front, KIRI-radar is being researched which should be very similar to the AEGIS Combat System to provide advanced warning for India. Additionally, new types of airborne radars are being developed, including a radar system that detects, tracks, and jams incoming radar-guided missiles. Such things are being researched in real life: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9KpjgHYjcA4 part 2 or 3, I think. Aetha, is what it sounds like, but I wasn't sure.
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| August 29, 2010, 10:42 pm
Quoting Ian Macdonald
High school. Though all my knowledge on the second world war would have been attained informally through many, many books.

Same, I'm probably already studied/found out about half of what they'll probably teach us
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| August 29, 2010, 11:10 pm
Quoting Evan Melick

And Finn, you annexed and are assimilating all the central Asian republics, all the -stans' right?

Yes, that I can say with out someone yelling in my ear...


>.>

<.<
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| August 29, 2010, 11:12 pm
BEAR is going to the moon..... If only we had that much in the budget for a trip. Anyway, the Gov't of Mongolia advises that the crew of the Tunguska be wary of Space Nazis, a real and present threat.
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| August 30, 2010, 12:51 am
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Quoting John Moffatt
BEAR is going to the moon..... If only we had that much in the budget for a trip. Anyway, the Gov't of Mongolia advises that the crew of the Tunguska be wary of Space Nazis, a real and present threat.


Oh no, fellow villains only have to pay a quarter of the normal bill.

As for Space Nazis... the Kzinti Lesson comes to mind.
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| August 30, 2010, 1:16 am
And a quarter of the price is.....?
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| August 30, 2010, 1:29 am
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Quoting John Moffatt
And a quarter of the price is.....?


37,500,000 ASCUs.

Which is quite a bit, but a lot less.
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| August 30, 2010, 2:01 am
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India bombed two of the three remaining large airbases, cratering runways at Karachi and inside Islamabad, effectively rendering them inoperable for a few days at least. The PAF is now a mere shadow of its former self, having taking a week-long pounding and suffering from catastrophic losses.

Infantry fighting continues to be intense. Though the Pakistani army and armor has remained largely intact, without the air force the tables have swung decisively in India's favor. Most of the raided towns have been reached by the vanguards and relieved the entrenched forces there, with the exception of Sukkur where bitter fighting still continues and the Indians have to be resupplied by air.

Another heavy naval engagement occurred overnight, once again the Pakistanis lost several ships. It was discovered that those that attacked were a 'smokescreen' while the rest of the fleet sailed south and around the Indian fleet toward the Indian homeland. Indians are scrambling strike fighters now to deal with this threat. Approximately four vessels were lost to the previous day's 'X' bomb attacks, giving much importance to the continuation of development and improvement of the weapon.

Continuing research on the radar systems, rockets intended to boost satellites into orbit is being constructed for testing and development.
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| August 30, 2010, 11:58 am
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Quoting Thomas N
The Oceanian Naval detachment based in Sri Lanka can help you "clear up" the rest of the Pakistani navy if you like.

And that is why we have friends! Yes, India accepts this help with great appreciation.

The ships, all twelve of them (all heavies; cruisers & larger), are being tracked just NW of the Laccadive Islands. Possible target: Mangalore and surrounding areas. Our air forces are set to engage them as soon as we can transfer the planes from our Eastern coast. A coordinated strike will do the most damage. How long until you are in position?

India will owe you one on this, Oceania; unless you want to quantify this favor in terms of dollars and cents.
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| August 30, 2010, 5:20 pm
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Within three days (after the Gibraltar exercises), the first completed Napoleonic Type-4 submarine will be making a trial expedition from its home base in Marseilles to the Maldives. From there it will travel to Reunion and then end up in Sao Tome. This will maximize the amount of data we have on the new vessel design and should encourage better training exercises once the next three ships of the same class come online.

In Moldova, defenses are being set in Glodyany while Finnish troops prepare to set forth another stage in offense with the hopes of capturing Eel'tsy and Bolotino beginning in 120 hours or so. Bohemian support should help with the combat in the latter city seeing as though they've been re-assigned to the active Moldavian campaign.

Also, the combat in Komrat lead to a staggering set of casualties. Nearly two hundred coalition forces were neutralized during engagements after leaked intelligence reached the enemy command structure; an investigation is being done currently. Still, the armoured support sent to link up made it with little hassle and were able to pocket the resistance after the initial losses. Enemy retreat has been reported with minor engagements still occurring. The area should be secured within the next two days.

Aside from that, the IIS welcomes Oceania into its union. This should create a much larger international society outside of Europe and make for a greater increase in production growth.
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| August 30, 2010, 6:11 pm
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Quoting Finn C-Q
The invasion of Afghanistan and Iran has started today, we are equipping all soldiers with Comms in case of getting lost in the dessert, also, our air force is doing continual bombardment on the capitals in hopes of heavy demorlization, though I think it'll only anger them. All for now. Also, in the other countries I invaded, the small rebellious groups are getting crushed, mostly.

Yes. And two million troops are attack one, and two mill in the other

Over the past four (about) months, I have been invading and securing Afghanistan and Iran. To continue this invasion will be viewed as a declaration of war. I do not wish to have you for an enemy, and am open for negotiations if you wish.
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| August 30, 2010, 7:00 pm
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Quoting Evan Melick
Afghanistan. O_o

Anywho. No, he called off the invasion. How far are you in Iran Jack?
I have officially taken all of Iran, (as well as the other countries I intended to take,) but there's still a high number of geurilla war parties that need to be rooted out throughout the country. If you need the list of countries, I can go back and find it. I posted it somewhere... about fifty threads ago. -_-
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| August 30, 2010, 7:40 pm
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Quoting Evan Melick
Well, right now you own the entire Arabian Peninsula save the Emirates, which I control, plus occupying Afghanistan and Iran?

I found the list of countries I invaded on June 9th. Cliffe agreed to allow me to invade them, but he said it would take a minimum of two months and would require that I accept heavy casualties, both of which have been done. The countries I have conquered include Afghanistan, Iran, Uzbekistan, Pakistan, and Turkmenistan. I began the invasion while all five countries were involved in a civil war after the breakup of the ISR (or whatever Will Gober's country was named. I forgot now.) which enabled me to catch them slightly off guard before they would have time to set up an effective defense system.
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| August 30, 2010, 8:08 pm
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Quoting Evan Melick
Well, right now you own the entire Arabian Peninsula save the Emirates, which I control, plus occupying Afghanistan and Iran?

I should have specified, yes, I own most of the Arabian peninsula and a decent portion of the Middle East. I didn't intend to conquer the Middle Eastern countries, but after the downfall of Will Gober, I was forced to either take them or let them fall to an enemy. I do not intend any further expansion. I couldn't realisticaly fund another expansion campaign anyway without letting down homeland security.
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| August 30, 2010, 8:14 pm
I would say more, but today was my first day at school and my first 7 hour day of school in four years so I'll just say, the war's going well.
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| August 30, 2010, 8:57 pm
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Quoting Thomas N
The carrier O.N.S. Columbo, Battleship O.N.S. Sri Lanka, 4 Stealth cruisers, 10 destroyers and sixteen attack submarines are being sent right now. The ships are an estimated two hours out of the islands, but range for ship-to-ship missiles and aircraft is even less than that, so we should be ready to engage soon.

The Battleship, cruisers, and destroyers will begin launching mong-range ship-to-ship missiles, and short-range as well once we are within range. The carrier will start launching aircraft to go in on an attack as well. If need be, flights can also be called i from air bases on Sri Lanka, or the carrier Melbourne, currently stationed off the Malay peninsula.

As for reimbursement, we'll talk about such matters after battles have concluded.

Boy, there really isn't such a thing as overkill is there?

Excellent, I don't think my land-based aircraft will be needed but I'll send them out at about 21:00 hours anyway, we'll hem them in from the north.

Good news from the Euroclydon task force, she's also within operational range, having been on the outskirts of the theater and making way SE since first radar contact.

Attacks will commence at 21:00 sharp. As you have the largest commitment, the sim is all yours (that, and you know how your ships work, I don't).
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| August 30, 2010, 9:38 pm
Quoting Jack Ford
Quoting Evan Melick
Afghanistan. O_o

Anywho. No, he called off the invasion. How far are you in Iran Jack?
I have officially taken all of Iran, (as well as the other countries I intended to take,) but there's still a high number of geurilla war parties that need to be rooted out throughout the country. If you need the list of countries, I can go back and find it. I posted it somewhere... about fifty threads ago. -_-


Since you know border me, you wanna trade goods and services?

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| August 30, 2010, 9:52 pm
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Quoting Evan Melick
And you too Ultramarine, as you're invading Mr. Ford.

According to my latest glance at 'Yonder Blessed Map' no one owns Pakistan...
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| August 30, 2010, 10:16 pm
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@Evan, Jack, Finn, and Ultra:

Ultra doesn't have to give up anything. He took the land before Jack does, so he gets it. Finn, well, I think he took Afghan and Iran while they were being invaded, so that's a no-go, while the other nation he took that Jack wanted he can keep.

Sorry Jack, but as Erik told me, and I have told others, Actions > Words.
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| August 30, 2010, 10:22 pm
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Quoting Nick Shelton
@Evan, Jack, Finn, and Ultra:

Ultra doesn't have to give up anything. He took the land before Jack does, so he gets it. Finn, well, I think he took Afghan and Iran while they were being invaded, so that's a no-go, while the other nation he took that Jack wanted he can keep.

Sorry Jack, but as Erik told me, and I have told others, Actions > Words.

Thank you. I've been confused for some time over the "I've had intentions for months on such-and-such" and how that compares with "Now I'm doing something about it." Thanks for clearing that up!
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| August 30, 2010, 10:47 pm
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As of 2200 EST: The IRA has sent an additional 20,000 troops to Senegal due to the increased resistance and trying not to have the fighting enter Gambia.
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| August 30, 2010, 10:48 pm
I own all the -stans, that's all in this lil doesy
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| August 30, 2010, 10:51 pm
Okay, look here, Jack invade all those countries four months ago, so he has them all, because Cliffe said he could take them in tow months, sorry Finn and Ultramrine, but I think what Cliffe says goes.
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| August 30, 2010, 11:00 pm
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I'm siding with Finn and Ultra, they made the moves. Actions>Words, as Nick says. That, and I'm guilty of what they're doing too.

If anyone wants to fight them for it, go right ahead. In the meantime, settle for the huge tracts of land you already have.
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| August 30, 2010, 11:04 pm
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Quoting Will G.
Okay, look here, Jack invade all those countries four months ago, so he has them all, because Cliffe said he could take them in tow months, sorry Finn and Ultramrine, but I think what Cliffe says goes.

Well now that's not cool. How come when people say "I want this, STAY AWAY." it is like some sort of divine rule, but when I say the exact same thing, people can disobey and take my lands and people don't care. Hmm?
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| August 30, 2010, 11:08 pm
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My thanks to the Commonwealth and the ADCC for inviting the SRGL into the IIS.

Onto matters west of Ghana, the Afrika Korps makes great progress in Guinea. Apparently, people like to kidnap government officials when invaded. Us, not so much. Too dull, and shortens the practice too quickly. However, two spec ops teams did land in the little one, Guinea-Bissau, and took out key sites, such as powerplants. And poodles.
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| August 30, 2010, 11:32 pm
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Looks like we have a new super faction forming here. BEAR, IIS, and the PE. Let's hope this group doesn't stalemate like the last one.
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| August 30, 2010, 11:41 pm
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Well, this changes things.

My two greatest enemies on the North American continent are Europeans!
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| August 30, 2010, 11:42 pm
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I know enough about politics in this group to know that it makes no difference.
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| August 30, 2010, 11:53 pm
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Quoting Evan Melick
For the love of God.
>.>


No you.
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| August 30, 2010, 11:59 pm
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Quoting Will G.
Okay, look here, Jack invade all those countries four months ago, so he has them all, because Cliffe said he could take them in tow months, sorry Finn and Ultramrine, but I think what Cliffe says goes.

Soooo...

Consider this my proclamation that India claims all currently unclaimed lands as her own. Does that make them mine? If so, I should have done it weeks ago. If not, proves my point.
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| August 31, 2010, 12:18 am
In Chad and CAR, resistance is now non-existent. Earlier today, a large group of former CAR soldiers surrendered after deciding that their country would be much better off as a member of the USCA. These men promptly joined the USCA under a new military integration program. With the elections tomorrow, today was filled with last minute campaigning and a debate about the future of USCA's booming economy. An unexpected setback in the Hydro-Electric Project is causing it's opening to be delayed until the 4th of September, however this will give us more time to produce more fuel cells. Also, we are expressing interest in buying Libya from Canada for the price of 25 million ORO's. Negotiations are still going along very smoothly with the Republic of Congo, however this may change depending on tomorrows elections.
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| August 31, 2010, 12:22 am
My question is how come the areas belonging to Jack were nor marked? Anyway, I stay with my conquests of the -stans
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| August 31, 2010, 1:24 am
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Since we now have to declare what we're going to invade, I'm going to do this:


The Alenian government, in the interests of the Brotherhood of Eastern Allied Republics, now lays formal claim to an area of five hundred kilometres in and around the crater Copernicus, in the Oceanus Procellarum, and the ground directly below that area extending to a depth of forty kilometres.
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| August 31, 2010, 2:57 am
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Quoting Ultramarine .
Thank you. I've been confused for some time over the "I've had intentions for months on such-and-such" and how that compares with "Now I'm doing something about it." Thanks for clearing that up!

I have posted at least five war updates, and I do believe eight is the number. However, I will admit that I'm not as good as I should be at updating my actions. I am willing to split Pakistan 50/50 on the grounds that you agree to a no-fire agreement with my nation, the U.A.C.
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| August 31, 2010, 3:01 am
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Quoting Finn C-Q

Since you know border me, you wanna trade goods and services?

Most definitely, but first, we must come to an agreement on where exactly the borders are. I'm willing to split the 'stans with you on the agreement that you take no hostile actions against me and I take none against you. The main reason I launched the campaign anyway was so that I didn't end up surrounded by enemies. Since I've spent almost four months on this, I'd like to at least have half of the territory. If you wish to negotiate please send me a FM.
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| August 31, 2010, 3:04 am
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"Alright, since they haven't had much time to set up defenses, I intend to launch a military campain to forcefully re-unite them. If you want to, you may decide my effectiveness. I'll begin the bombing tonight, and tommorow at 0400 I will begin an infantry invasion of Afghanistan, Turkmenistan and Pakistan. As soon as possible, I'd like to attempt to get ahold of Uzbekistan. I will also begin sending tanks and APCs, but I think it will take a few days to reach the combat zone. If you'de like more precise battle plans, shoot me a FM.
Permalink | June 9, 2010, 2:57 pm "

There is the exact text from a conversation between me and Cliffe on June 9th, after he allowed me to invade the five Middle Eastern countries of Afghanistan, Iran, Uzbekistan, Turkmenistan, and Pakistan. I haven't counted the posts made since then, and unless someone specifically requests it, I don't plan to. I here specified that I launched bombers, which in my book constitutes an invasion. (Much more serious than laying claim to it.)
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| August 31, 2010, 3:18 am
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Did Jeffery leave?

and who is this? http://www.mocpages.com/home.php/17970
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| August 31, 2010, 10:45 am
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Quoting Jack Ford
I have posted at least five war updates, and I do believe eight is the number. However, I will admit that I'm not as good as I should be at updating my actions. I am willing to split Pakistan 50/50 on the grounds that you agree to a no-fire agreement with my nation, the U.A.C.

Sorry, but I'm on a roll. According to the map, no one owns it, but you will see that my border already extends well into Pakistan. That, and I'm about to take the capital city. If you were to invade now, you would benefit unconscionably from my blood, sweat, and tears in this fight; which would be unfair to me. I'm afraid the least I could go would be 90/10.
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| August 31, 2010, 11:31 am
In the sports world in the FTSA, the FTSA is proud to announce that Florida's very own Tampa Bay Rays have clinched their 26th straight playoff position, began in 2010 when they raegkilled the New York Yankees.

Mhm, I just went there.
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| August 31, 2010, 11:33 am
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Quoting Rocky W.
In the sports world in the FTSA, the FTSA is proud to announce that Florida's very own Tampa Bay Rays have clinched their 26th straight playoff position, began in 2010 when they raegkilled the New York Yankees.

Mhm, I just went there.


Too bad there's no more MLB.

Oh, I went there.
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| August 31, 2010, 11:35 am
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Quoting Ultramarine .
Sorry, but I'm on a roll. According to the map, no one owns it, but you will see that my border already extends well into Pakistan. That, and I'm about to take the capital city. If you were to invade now, you would benefit unconscionably from my blood, sweat, and tears in this fight; which would be unfair to me. I'm afraid the least I could go would be 90/10.


Jack would obliterate your Air Force in no time, he has the strongest one by my calculations. Plus he had a head start on your punk a**.

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| August 31, 2010, 11:37 am
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Thanks to the heroic and outstanding efforts of our esteemed ally (never hurts to butter-up) the Pakistani naval threat is no longer, and the retreating elements have been intercepted and worked over. Another two were lost, their only reprieve was the Indian's need to refuel. One battleship, two stealth cruisers, and four destroyers are en route to intercept. The remaining Pakistani ships were attacked relentlessly while at anchorage and either sunken or put out of commission.

On the ground, front stabilization has finally occurred as the mop-up operations conclude. The previously invaded cities are now declared secure, though sporadic firefights continue. Knowing we have the advantage, the invasion of Islamabad is being carefully planned as troops build-up on the outskirts and supply depots are growing. About 12,000 men are being assembled for the job. They will be supported by nearly five hundred aircraft of all types to ensure their success.

The air war has virtually ceased, thanks to airfields being put out of commission. So there's not much to tell there.

Saber-rattling has occurred with the CAS, we're going to see how that plays out.

India is pleased to announce the completion of three super-computers. One for the military for radar coordination and interpretation, two for civilian uses of weather and such.
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| August 31, 2010, 11:48 am
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Quoting Ham N' Biscuits

Jack would obliterate your Air Force in no time, he has the strongest one by my calculations. Plus he had a head start on your punk a**.

Hahaha. That's a good one...

He may have stealth, but not all 'stealth' is 'stealth' if you get my drift...
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| August 31, 2010, 11:50 am
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Quoting Ham N' Biscuits

Jack would obliterate your Air Force in no time, he has the strongest one by my calculations. Plus he had a head start on your punk a**.
WOW, you are just as bad as Will with the smack talk.

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| August 31, 2010, 11:52 am
Quoting Ham N' Biscuits

Too bad there's no more MLB.

Oh, I went there.

Lets'a ask'a the admins.

I want MLB.
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| August 31, 2010, 12:18 pm
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Quoting Ultramarine .
Hahaha. That's a good one...

He may have stealth, but not all 'stealth' is 'stealth' if you get my drift...


He has stealth, and way more aircraft due to him having a several month production lead. Catch my drift?
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| August 31, 2010, 12:21 pm
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Quoting Ham N' Biscuits

He has stealth, and way more aircraft due to him having a several month production lead. Catch my drift?

Not according to his statistics. And he could never match my production capabilities because all he has is oil for natural resources. And about a quarter my population. Catch my drift?
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| August 31, 2010, 12:22 pm
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Quoting Thomas N

Actually, Ultramarine, if I remember correctly, you said you wanted to reclaim the boundary of the Indus River for India. If the map I have is correct, then the Indus River pretty much splits Pakistan in half, lengthwise.

So, if you and Jack make an agreement with the Indus River as your boundary, and then you take everything up to the Indus (from the east), and he from the west, then you satisfy both of your wants. You get your Indus River border you said you wanted, and Jack gets his 50/50 split.

The eternal compromiser. I'm not too happy about that though, he would just need to waltz in and raise his flag since the Pakistanis drained their western lands to fight in the east. If we did agree to that, he'd owe me something big since I basically fought his war for him. As with Germany my 'Only wanting this piece of land' was meant to legitimize complete annexation, not just part.
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| August 31, 2010, 12:37 pm
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Quoting Thomas N

So, if you and Jack make an agreement with the Indus River as your boundary, and then you take everything up to the Indus (from the east), and he from the west, then you satisfy both of your wants. You get your Indus River border you said you wanted, and Jack gets his 50/50 split.

I find this a fair and acceptable agreement. While Ultramarine has posted more numerous updates in the past few weeks, I have been invading Pakistan since June 21st. I do believe that I was there first. The Indus River would be an excellent natural defense, as a sattelite could easily notice large numbers of soldiers crossing, and alert the proper officials. I do not wish to make war with you (Ultramarine), as it would drain both our economies at an unnaceptable rate, and be a virtually useless waste of time, money and lives.
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| August 31, 2010, 12:51 pm
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Quoting Evan Melick Christ.
Yes?

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| August 31, 2010, 1:49 pm
After much deliberations, Zimbabwe and Botswana have decided to join the AMA. And we would also like to thank the IRA for their generous gift, and we will welcome you engineers with open arms.
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| August 31, 2010, 4:24 pm
Well, in other news, I, am asking for some friendly compatition, with fellow BEAR and whoever else, as sports.
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| August 31, 2010, 6:27 pm
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Quoting Thomas N

Oh, almost forgot.

India wishes to tell the families of those Oceanian sailors lost while fighting on our behalf that our hearts and prayers are with them; and that we thank them for their sacrifice.
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| August 31, 2010, 6:28 pm
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Quoting Jack Ford
I find this a fair and acceptable agreement. While Ultramarine has posted more numerous updates in the past few weeks, I have been invading Pakistan since June 21st. I do believe that I was there first. The Indus River would be an excellent natural defense, as a sattelite could easily notice large numbers of soldiers crossing, and alert the proper officials. I do not wish to make war with you (Ultramarine), as it would drain both our economies at an unnaceptable rate, and be a virtually useless waste of time, money and lives.

Why do I always let some people talk me out of this?

Ok, yes, the Indus River sounds fine. I had only entertained thoughts of annexing all of it, not actually intended to. Actually, and I don't have a problem with this, you end up with more of Pakistan than I do. Including those nicely built ports...

Jack, I do apologize for this whole mess, it appears we were both victims of misunderstandings. I truly did not know that you had invaded Pakistan or else I wouldn't have done so myself. Since all of my conquests have been updated on the map, I figured if it didn't have a color, it was up for grabs. If I came off a bit crass earlier, it was because I was getting a bit defensive with all the "He could kick your..." I was getting from some people.
>.>
<.<

In all fairness, though, I did give a five-day warning before I touched-off.
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| August 31, 2010, 6:40 pm
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Quoting Evan Melick
That and somehow operating over 5000 top of the line aircraft of all roles, when IRL India barely fields 363 fighters, 224 attackers, among others?? Even with the land you've conquered and resources.

Well, despite my earlier comment (which is nonetheless true), I believe we are facing a disparity in reporting systems, which is perfectly normal, and is based upon my wishes; but should probably be amended in light of mix-ups like this.

My numbers are what has been produced, not what is currently in operation, and includes losses, repairs, refits, factory orders, and operationals.
So, do I still claim to have over 4,300 jets? Yes, but not operational. I estimate I have about 1,300 F-1c's and 800 A-2s ready to take off. For the IAF, the navy has less than 300 of all types.
Additionally, I have about 1,200 A-1s, though I would hardly classify the C/A-1 as 'Top of the line' considering its a tiny prop-job.

Four nuclear aircraft carriers? Is that so much of a stretch? If you actually read the stats in the MOC, I make it clear that they use low-grade reactors, so nowhere near Nimitz-class capabilities...yet.
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| August 31, 2010, 6:58 pm
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France has hired a group of PMCs within Mauritania to begin gaining local intel of hidden belligerents that may pop up without having to infiltrate the nation itself. Although the intelligence may be questionable, it's a quick fix to such a fast mobilization of a standby-interventionist force. The littoral zone still belongs to coalition forces and we've been pressing the security of the country's air space with clandestine flights. Atlantic command is highly confident that if any combat does occur it would be easily crushed with internal help from the liberal faction.

Aside from that, [North] Italian shipyards are being expanded to accommodate a larger industrial capacity as well as boosting the economy. These shipyards should be able to open a few more domestic jobs while producing needed goods. The expansion program should be complete within a minimum of five to six weeks if Italy has been blessed with good fortune.
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| August 31, 2010, 8:06 pm
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Quoting Ultramarine .
Why do I always let some people talk me out of this?

Ok, yes, the Indus River sounds fine. I had only entertained thoughts of annexing all of it, not actually intended to. Actually, and I don't have a problem with this, you end up with more of Pakistan than I do. Including those nicely built ports...

Jack, I do apologize for this whole mess, it appears we were both victims of misunderstandings. I truly did not know that you had invaded Pakistan or else I wouldn't have done so myself. Since all of my conquests have been updated on the map, I figured if it didn't have a color, it was up for grabs. If I came off a bit crass earlier, it was because I was getting a bit defensive with all the "He could kick your..." I was getting from some people.
>.>
<.<

In all fairness, though, I did give a five-day warning before I touched-off.
I'm not offended at all with any of this, and I do accept the blame for not making my actions more clear. If the ports are important to you, I could allow you to use them at no cost. The UAC has a relatively small Navy, and I doubt I would use them as often as you would.

Just to make it clear, I have no intentions of attempting to "kick your ..." It would be a ridiculous thing for me to do, as as you mentioned before, my economy is mainly oil and my population is relatively limited, and therefore I don't have an extreme ammount of money and soldiers to spend on a needless war. I would like to maintain a friendly relationship with your nation as much as possible. I'm glad we could come to a peacefull agreement.

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| August 31, 2010, 8:28 pm
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@Ultramarine.: On a different note, the Indian Air Force currently (2010) operates Su-30s, MiG-29s, Ilyushin AWACs, SPECAT Jaguars, C-17s, MiL-24s, and other similar aircraft. Do you still operate them?

If not, I'm interested in purchasing them. Even though they are outdated by 21st Century World time, they may be usefull to me as homeland defense aircraft and may be used to back up my front-line aircraft in an emergency.
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| August 31, 2010, 9:03 pm
The AMA would like to request 3 battleships, 4 missile boats, and 10 landers from the IRA. The cost of which will be put on our 'tab'.
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| August 31, 2010, 9:20 pm
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Quoting Henry Leopold III
The AMA would like to request 3 battleships, 4 missile boats, and 10 landers from the IRA. The cost of which will be put on our 'tab'.

They are on their way.



Cape Verde, Paramushir, and Crimea have all been deemed bases of operations. All will be heavily fortified and garrison a large amount of troops for a rapid response force, First Encounter Assault Recon.
Crimea- 30,000
Cape Verde- 20,000
Paramushir- 30,000
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| August 31, 2010, 9:32 pm
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Quoting Thomas N
Thank you, good sir. I'm sure that their deaths will be deemed noble, as they prevented civilian lives that would have been lost had Pakistan attacked India.

If its not too much to ask, 2 billion, replacement cost for the lost ships, and also the assurance that we may keep the captured Pakistani ship would be all we need as reimbursement.

No, no price too high! You have it with my compliments, sir! Be sure to allocate some of that in a child's fund for college educations for the kids of those men, if possible.

Uh, sure, go for it. Spoils of war and all that. If there is any special tech (doubtful) aboard would you mind sharing?
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| August 31, 2010, 10:27 pm
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Quoting Jack Ford
I'm not offended at all with any of this, and I do accept the blame for not making my actions more clear. If the ports are important to you, I could allow you to use them at no cost. The UAC has a relatively small Navy, and I doubt I would use them as often as you would.

Just to make it clear, I have no intentions of attempting to "kick your ..." It would be a ridiculous thing for me to do, as as you mentioned before, my economy is mainly oil and my population is relatively limited, and therefore I don't have an extreme ammount of money and soldiers to spend on a needless war. I would like to maintain a friendly relationship with your nation as much as possible. I'm glad we could come to a peacefull agreement.

Ah, I've got more lands to stick ports, you can have them. You'll need a larger navy soon enough, what with everyone starting to look at each other for land.
Quoting Jack Ford
@Ultramarine.: On a different note, the Indian Air Force currently (2010) operates Su-30s, MiG-29s, Ilyushin AWACs, SPECAT Jaguars, C-17s, MiL-24s, and other similar aircraft. Do you still operate them?

My F-1c is a bit more advanced than the fighters, but I'll be hanging onto the AWACs and a few of the C-17s. So sure, how does $10 million apiece for the fighters and $5M a piece for the helicopters?
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| August 31, 2010, 10:41 pm
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As of 2245 hours EST, the Mauritania Nationalist Republic has seceded from the Islamic Republic of Mauritania. The marines in the littoral zone of the country have mobilized to land near Nouadhibou and Nouakchott (capital city) to assist the Nationalist Republic to secure itself as a dominating power in its claimed territory. Moroccan and Saharan forces are preparing to mobilize from the north; these two nations have been selected as theatre activists granted they are African natives and the ADCC wishes to secure good standings amongst its respective states in regards to hearts and minds. Kiffa will be western-most boundary within the Nationalist Republic.

In terms of military, the new state has little support. Only 3,500 of the some 16,000 have stayed loyal and staged a coup to remove the Islamic Republic officials from the capital city. In turn, coalition forces will be making regular flights to secure the boundaries of the nation. Paratroopers will be flown in later today near Aleg to make a mid-way station under Operation Misericorde [a 20,400-man campaign].

This also means that security levels are again on their highest standard in the "homeland". State gendarmeries will be directed to ensure populace defense/direction and patrols will be directed amongst the states' borders. The fear is for an enraged group of civil minorities (i.e. Muslim radicals, men with no aspiration, etc.). And, somewhat related, 5 A310 airframes will be inspected, upgraded, and re-dedicated as a set airborne laser defense systems (ALDS). The ALDS program should take roughly two and a half weeks for trial runs.
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| August 31, 2010, 10:58 pm
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The massive build-up around Islamabad continues. Zero-hour is set for 08:00 tomorrow morning. We'll attack from three sides, preceded by massive artillery and air-strikes. The enemy is well-entrenched, but they won't last long. More armor is en route last minute via the three C-17s we have (they were kept out until their safety was ensured). CA-1s continue to deliver ammo. In the surrounding theater, almost all areas are secure with a few hold-outs.

At 19:23 this afternoon, the Pakistani navy surrendered after another day's pounding by air and with no hope of deliverance.

Agreements have been reached with our western neighbors, thankfully avoiding another conflict. India looks forward to good relations in the future.

The IAF is commissioning a new Advanced Pilot Training University. It will be headed by veterans and theorists that will instruct on the newest ideas and applications of air warfare. Rigorous flight training will also be in the curricula.

International students will also be accepted to this state-of-the-art facility, for those interested. Full-semester length classes, education visas, and dorms will be accommodated for only $5,600 a person.
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| August 31, 2010, 11:22 pm
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Quoting Ultramarine .

My F-1c is a bit more advanced than the fighters, but I'll be hanging onto the AWACs and a few of the C-17s. So sure, how does $10 million apiece for the fighters and $5M a piece for the helicopters?

That seems like a fair price. They will be paid for by the U.A.C. immediately.
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| August 31, 2010, 11:52 pm
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Garcia Aircraft Industries has released its first combat-operational drone, the UAH-1 Myotis. It will be open for sale to all allies of the U.A.C.
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| September 1, 2010, 12:28 am
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Quoting John Dawn
All will be heavily fortified and garrison a large amount of troops for a rapid response force, First Encounter Assault Recon.


How unimaginative.
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| September 1, 2010, 3:31 am
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Quoting Areetsa C
Quoting John Dawn
All will be heavily fortified and garrison a large amount of troops for a rapid response force, First Encounter Assault Recon.


How unimaginative.
Shhhhh.....

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| September 1, 2010, 9:36 am
Quoting Thomas N
Reports on the captured Pakistani Ship:

The captured ship has been found to be Iranian in origin. From the days of when Iran had vast holdings across central Asia, and was a world power. It has been discovered to be an earlier version of Cruisers that the country built. An inscription was found above several bulkhead doors saying: "For our wonderful and admirable leader: Will Gober" the former Iranian dictator who curiously shares the same name as the current governor of Texas.

And I fled to Russia

>.>

<.<
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| September 1, 2010, 12:11 pm
News from the Confederacy: we have completed the construction of hydro-powerplants, and are close to stabilizing our economy. In millitary news, we have opened factories which are producing TPC-8s (which are yet to be posted thanks to my computer). Also a small inspection team is headed to Sao Tome and Percipice and are requesting permission to land, to check for any aggressive acts against the CSA. (If the Owner allows.)
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| September 1, 2010, 5:01 pm
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Quoting Brikkr
Also a small inspection team is headed to Sao Tome and Percipice and are requesting permission to land, to check for any aggressive acts against the CSA. (If the Owner allows.)

I find it ironic how I just removed my 6,000+ coalition force from the islands and now you wish to scope things out. Anyhow, be my guest; but your boys better drop their magazines before they hit the shores. Also, they'll be under (both direct and overhead) escort for the sake of formality. No funny business.
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| September 1, 2010, 5:05 pm
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