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International Trading boards I
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Here is where people should publish international trades.

For example, you could post various pieces of equipment you are willing to trade, or you could post a question asking a member if they wish to trade something.

For everyone who prefers Flickrmail trading, here is where you will post finalized trades.
For example:
Awesome and I just completed a trade through Flickrmail for 225 of his new tanks, which were designed per my contract that I worked out with him a while ago, to be sent to me, at 5.7 million each, to be paid with cash.
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| September 1, 2010, 1:46 pm
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Jack Ford, I am interested in acquiring some of your UAH-1s, and also some TU-225s, preferably by equipment trade, could we possibly reach an agreement?
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| September 1, 2010, 2:09 pm
Quoting Brendan Dore
To all countries who have a navy that isn't large or advanced: I will be selling all decommissioned Brendonian ships now.

To all allies: If you want any of my more advanced ships, than talk with me via FM.

If anyone is stupid enough to buy my land vehicles and/ or F-18s, F-4, and F-3s, than be my guest.


Nigeria is interested, how many ships are up for sale and what price?
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| September 1, 2010, 4:52 pm
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Quoting Brikkr

Nigeria is interested, how many ships are up for sale and what price?

Where are your three MOCs? Are they on a flickr page of yours? because otherwise you need to have them posted in order to interact as a country.
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| September 1, 2010, 4:57 pm
They're on my computer, I'm having trouble with it being so slow. You're quite a stickler about this kind of stuff...
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| September 1, 2010, 6:10 pm
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Quoting Brikkr
They're on my computer, I'm having trouble with it being so slow. You're quite a stickler about this kind of stuff...

There have been members in the past who think they could do whatever without a practical basis of force. This is just a measure to know that you're dedicated to being both an active member and somewhat realistic.
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| September 1, 2010, 6:16 pm
Quoting Brendan Dore
Well, what kind of ships do ye want?

Ones that float.
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| September 1, 2010, 10:14 pm
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Quoting Jack Ford

Ok, sounds good, how many planes are we talking about?

For those coming in on this, Jack and I are in the middle of me selling off excess fighters & choppers to him.
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| September 1, 2010, 11:13 pm
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I don't know if this is considered a trade-able commodity, but the Advanced Pilot Training University in India is open to international students.

For $5,600 a student, semester-length classes, living accommodations, and education visas will be provided. If more than 100 students enroll from any particular country, transportation is included. It will be headed by veterans and theorists that will instruct on the newest ideas and applications of air warfare. Rigorous flight training will also be in the curricula. More specialized classes in ground-attack and naval piloting (basing off of a carrier, including naval target attack methods) are available upon request.

Just let me know.
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| September 2, 2010, 12:02 am
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This is less 'selling' and more 'looking for in order to buy': I need an extremely efficient, high thrust engine capable of operating both in space and an atmosphere, and with relatively low fuel consumption. It needs to be able to lift an approximately 50 tonne craft from a runway to low orbit on less than two thirds of a 25 tonne fuel tank.
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| September 2, 2010, 1:18 am
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Quoting Ultramarine .
Quoting Jack Ford

Ok, sounds good, how many planes are we talking about?

For those coming in on this, Jack and I are in the middle of me selling off excess fighters & choppers to him.

I'm interested in buying as many as possible of the following aircraft. I copied the statistics off a spreadsheet, so the numbers in front of the aircraft type are the ammount currently in service with the Indian Air Force. They're basically a maximum of what you have to sell.
270 Su-30s, 70 MiG-29s, 51 Mirage 2000s, 80 HAL-Tejas, 139 SPECAT Jaguars, and 100 MiG-27s. I'd like to buy all of them, but any number is fine with me. I decided not to buy the helicopters, since my helicopter fleet is fairly top-notch as it is.

Also, if you'd like too I can work out a trade. I've got several high-quality products I could offer for trade, including Tu-225s, (light bombers/Close Air Support aircraft, similar to the A-10) and Su-51s, stealth air superiority aircraft. I also have numerous high-quality helicopters. Let me know if you're interested. (If you'd rather, I can afford to just pay in cash too.)
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| September 2, 2010, 1:37 pm
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New helicopter's up and viewable here: http://www.mocpages.com/moc.php/223699

This will be open for sale in limited quantities to close allies of the U.A.C.
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| September 2, 2010, 2:31 pm
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Oceania and the U.A.C. have just completed a deal via Flickrmail. 100 UAH-1s and 60 TU-225s will be sent to Oceania, in exchange for 200 AAFVs.

In addition, the U.A.C. has made a long term contract with Oceania to flesh out its Navy. They have ordered three Sydney class Aircraft Carriers and two Australia class Battleships, a net value of $13 billion, which will be payed in two months when shipyards at Darwin and Sydney has completed the order.
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| September 2, 2010, 2:44 pm
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Quoting Ultramarine .
I don't know if this is considered a trade-able commodity, but the Advanced Pilot Training University in India is open to international students.

For $5,600 a student, semester-length classes, living accommodations, and education visas will be provided. If more than 100 students enroll from any particular country, transportation is included. It will be headed by veterans and theorists that will instruct on the newest ideas and applications of air warfare. Rigorous flight training will also be in the curricula. More specialized classes in ground-attack and naval piloting (basing off of a carrier, including naval target attack methods) are available upon request.

Just let me know.
The IRA will purchase 200 student tickets, 100 for us and 100 for the AMA.

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| September 2, 2010, 2:50 pm
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Quoting John Dawn
The IRA will purchase 200 student tickets, 100 for us and 100 for the AMA.

Very well, give me the receiving airfields and I'll be there in a week to fetch them (when the semester starts). I'll need to request clearance from a half-dozen countries in between for air traffic, so it might be a couple days longer depending. Thank you for your order, your bill will be generated shortly.
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| September 2, 2010, 3:17 pm
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Quoting Brendan Dore
battleships, destroyers, carriers, and cruisers.

what about submarines?
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| September 2, 2010, 3:52 pm
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Quoting Brendan Dore
Quoting Thomas N
Quoting Brendan Dore
battleships, destroyers, carriers, and cruisers.

what about submarines?

>.>

I'm getting to that...

You can borrow some of my LAS-1s (http://www.mocpages.com/moc.php/195713) and some operators/trainers for your program if you want.

The subs can be provided for training purposes in a submarine training part of your program. Oceanian operators and Trainers can be provided to teach classes for a submarine part of the program.
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| September 2, 2010, 4:02 pm
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Quoting Jack Ford

270 Su-30s, 70 MiG-29s, 51 Mirage 2000s, 80 HAL-Tejas, 139 SPECAT Jaguars, and 100 MiG-27s. I'd like to buy all of them, but any number is fine with me. I decided not to buy the helicopters, since my helicopter fleet is fairly top-notch as it is.

Ok, now we're cooking with bear grease (no offense to B.E.A.R., I swear it's just an expression)! I will sell you what you asked for. I'm tempted to say that the HAL-Tejas is what I based my F-1 on, looks like a good plane. So, I'm calculating your bill at $7.1 Billion? Sound about right?

Quoting Jack Ford
Also, if you'd like too I can work out a trade. I've got several high-quality products I could offer for trade, including Tu-225s, (light bombers/Close Air Support aircraft, similar to the A-10) and Su-51s, stealth air superiority aircraft. I also have numerous high-quality helicopters. Let me know if you're interested. (If you'd rather, I can afford to just pay in cash too.)

Ok, now what I'd like from you is 30 Su-51 Fafnirs and 80 Tu-225. Let me know how much for those and we'll deduct that from your bill.
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| September 2, 2010, 4:50 pm
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Quoting Brendan Dore
For those of you who like naval-ish stuff, Brendonia will be offering 2 week, 5 week, and 3 month naval programs designed to simulate real combat on the high-seas. They will be able to commandeer there own ships in simulated combat with battleships, destroyers, carriers, and cruisers. But that's for the 3 month program. It will offer many specialized training programs, from tactics to communications. This program will run you $5,000, but it's worth it. Yes, Ultramarine, I just copied your idea.

>.>

<.<

But mine's with the navy.

GRrrrr... fine.
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| September 2, 2010, 4:53 pm
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Quoting Brendan Dore
Have you tried SCRAM jets?


I've looked at them for atmospheric capability, they don't work at all at anything less than around mach 3. The ramjets I'm using instead work from mach 0.5, so I'm using them. Less rocket use = more orbital ability.

And they don't work in space, either.
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| September 2, 2010, 6:19 pm
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Quoting Brendan Dore
Neither do ramjets.


Well, yeah, but the ramjets are for atmospheric operations and getting the thing into a high altitude.

The engines I'm looking for are for getting it fast enough to operate the ramjets efficiently and for getting the thing from the edge of space into orbit. And generally doing 'things' in orbit, because you need engines for that sort of stuff.
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| September 2, 2010, 7:11 pm
What about SCRAM jets?
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| September 2, 2010, 7:20 pm
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Quoting Jake H.
What about SCRAM jets?


Too much heat and speed involved. If I was trying to make the world's fastest interceptor, maybe. As it is, the heat buildup during re-entry is going to be hard enough to handle. Controlling an aircraft moving at hypersonic velocities? That can't be easy. Landing would be a real pain, too; you see, a ramjet only works well between mach .5 and mach 5. A scramjet only works well between mach 4 and mach >10. So scramjet powered craft are blindingly fast, but takeoffs and landings are very difficult. You'd need a massive runway just to get them into the air.

So no, scramjets don't fit my needs, and I've already decided on a locally produced ramjet engine. What I need is a rocket of some kind that fits the needs I outlined in the first post I made here.
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| September 2, 2010, 7:54 pm
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Quoting Areetsa C

Too much heat and speed involved. If I was trying to make the world's fastest interceptor, maybe. As it is, the heat buildup during re-entry is going to be hard enough to handle. Controlling an aircraft moving at hypersonic velocities? That can't be easy. Landing would be a real pain, too; you see, a ramjet only works well between mach .5 and mach 5. A scramjet only works well between mach 4 and mach >10. So scramjet powered craft are blindingly fast, but takeoffs and landings are very difficult. You'd need a massive runway just to get them into the air.

So no, scramjets don't fit my needs, and I've already decided on a locally produced ramjet engine. What I need is a rocket of some kind that fits the needs I outlined in the first post I made here.

Maybe you could try a craft with a RAM jet and a SCRAM jet, use the RAM to take off and land, and once up to mach 5 in the air, kill the RAM and start the SCRAM, so that you get both.

That'd probably be obscenely expensive though...
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| September 2, 2010, 8:14 pm
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Quoting Thomas N
Maybe you could try a craft with a RAM jet and a SCRAM jet, use the RAM to take off and land, and once up to mach 5 in the air, kill the RAM and start the SCRAM, so that you get both.

That'd probably be obscenely expensive though...


I'm building a fighter craft that can fly into space and spend a week or so blowing up unwanted satellites and/or unwary spacecraft, and then come back, swoop in for a landing, refuel, rearm and then zip off in the morning and bomb an airfield somewhere in the middle east, before returning and doing it all over again the next day.

Obscene costs are to be expected, but I can't afford the difficulties of three different engines in one spacecraft. Maintenance costs would be huge.

As it is, the heat resistant armour isn't going to be cheap.
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| September 2, 2010, 8:35 pm
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Quoting Evan Melick
Don't you think that's crossing the science fiction line? Over there with mechs and things.

Plus anything with enough power to stay up there for a week would require nothing short of a nuclear reactor, and a tree farm to produce the air.
No need for a tree farm, you can make oxygen other ways, and you can use all the CO2 for maneuvering thrusters.

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| September 2, 2010, 9:06 pm
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Quoting Evan Melick
Don't you think that's crossing the science fiction line? Over there with mechs and things.

Plus anything with enough power to stay up there for a week would require nothing short of a nuclear reactor, and a tree farm to produce the air.


Nope. It wouldn't actually need that much power and life support equipment, anyway.

20 years in the future, I think it's pretty safe to assume we've advanced quite a bit in terms of spaceflight. As it is today, we're sitting right on the edge of commercial spaceflight.

As for power... all you'd need would be life support and communications receivers. Sensor data? That's what ground bases are for.

Most of the time a craft spends in space is just coasting around waiting for an opportunity, you know. And life support? One human pilot, well, maybe a week is a bit long to be stuck in a tiny little dingpit, but eh, CO2 scrubbers are pretty efficient these days.

The point is, this thing will let me combine my hyper-advanced air superiority fighter program with my anti-orbital program. Sure it costs a pile, but in an atmospheric dogfight it'd be practically invincible, and it'd give me the ever-useful ability to ferry orders, intel and small objects to orbiting spacecraft without worrying about people eavesdropping on my communications net.
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| September 2, 2010, 9:07 pm
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Quoting Ultramarine .
Very well, give me the receiving airfields and I'll be there in a week to fetch them (when the semester starts). I'll need to request clearance from a half-dozen countries in between for air traffic, so it might be a couple days longer depending. Thank you for your order, your bill will be generated shortly.

We will wire transfer the funds and everyone, including the AMA should be picked up in Moscow.
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| September 2, 2010, 9:15 pm
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Quoting Evan Melick
Fair enough argument. However I do remember something about a "glass ceiling" when it came to on the edge sci-fi stuff, such as mechs, in both this group and the original, that kept things to a level where no one had an overpowering advantage, and there was still a way to maintain the "fun level".

Well, apparently it's not in this group's rules and regs, so nevermind then. Build your X-wing.


If he wants to bankrupt his Soviet Sparta, let him do it. You'll still be there to lolz when his X-wing looses it's Ramjet or something.
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| September 2, 2010, 9:16 pm
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Quoting Evan Melick
Fair enough argument. However I do remember something about a "glass ceiling" when it came to on the edge sci-fi stuff, such as mechs, in both this group and the original, that kept things to a level where no one had an overpowering advantage, and there was still a way to maintain the "fun level".

Well, apparently it's not in this group's rules and regs, so nevermind then. Build your X-wing.
Eh, i was only disproving tree farm, not power. i remember reading about a nuclear sub that produces its own oxygen.

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| September 2, 2010, 9:21 pm
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Quoting Evan Melick
Fair enough argument. However I do remember something about a "glass ceiling" when it came to on the edge sci-fi stuff, such as mechs, in both this group and the original, that kept things to a level where no one had an overpowering advantage, and there was still a way to maintain the "fun level".

Well, apparently it's not in this group's rules and regs, so nevermind then. Build your X-wing.


Eh, no, an X-wing is a very inefficient spacecraft design. If I were going to build a dedicated space fighter, it'd look like a Starfury.

As it is, I can recognize that the expense involved in such an enterprise just isn't worth it; much better to have an atmospheric superfighter that can do the job adequately than a purpose built ship that can't do anything else. Actually, come to think of it, a suborbital design might be better. A single seat figher isn't exactly the ideal craft to shuttle things from surface to orbit.

It's not an overpowered advantage, either. Cliffe has a craft he calls the 'Hyperfalcon' that supposedly has hypersonic capability and an onboard AI. I know Weagle had a part in helping him make it, so Weagle probably has something comparable as well.
And me, I've got a lot of advanced technology, but most of it's pretty specialized.

As for this assault fighter, I don't even know if the engine exists. I might just end up fitting the airframe with single use takeoff rockets and use normal tank armour instead of the heat resistant stuff.
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| September 2, 2010, 9:26 pm
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Quoting Awesome-o-saurus The Not-So-Great

If he wants to bankrupt his Soviet Sparta, let him do it. You'll still be there to lolz when his X-wing looses it's Ramjet or something.


Think less X-wing and more flying brick. I'd imagine the people who get 50 tonnes of flying metal landing on their heads wouldn't be lolzing very much.
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| September 2, 2010, 9:29 pm
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If you think this is an uproar, just wait until you see my next creation.

>.>

<.<
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| September 2, 2010, 9:30 pm
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Quoting Evan Melick
Fair 'nuff.

Again, you may have a super jet.

But I have the Royal Navy.


Which sank a couple of its own ships the last time it fired its missiles in anger.

And I don't "have" the super jet, because at the moment I'm just checking to see if anyone has the sort of engines I'd need BEFORE I start the design process.
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| September 2, 2010, 9:36 pm
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Quoting Ultramarine .
Ok, now what I'd like from you is 30 Su-51 Fafnirs and 80 Tu-225. Let me know how much for those and we'll deduct that from your bill.

If I subtract 1 billion from my bill, does that seem fair to you?
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| September 2, 2010, 9:44 pm
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Quoting Areetsa C

Which sank a couple of its own ships the last time it fired its missiles in anger.


I believe everyone keeping things realistic in this group agrees that didn't happen.
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| September 2, 2010, 9:48 pm
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Quoting Thomas N
I believe everyone keeping things realistic in this group agrees that didn't happen.


Really? What about the millions of Iranian parachutists that dropped into Scandinavia?
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| September 2, 2010, 9:52 pm
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Quoting Areetsa C

Really? What about the millions of Iranian parachutists that dropped into Scandinavia?

I wasn't around for that.
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| September 2, 2010, 9:52 pm
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@Evan and Areetsa: Hush! Indeed, the Royal Navy did hit their own ships with their own missiles, but none were sunk.

@Thomas and Evan: If no combat losses are listed after a battle report, nothing but the Great Gulf Naval Battle ever happened.
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| September 2, 2010, 10:01 pm
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Quoting John Dawn
We will wire transfer the funds and everyone, including the AMA should be picked up in Moscow.

Very well, your bill is at $1,120,000. That includes the afore mentioned items and transportation. Now, I will be flying over Jack's territory, so thankfully I'll only need to get clearance from him. In the interest of international relations, I will be transporting them 25 each in eight aircraft (just so you don't loose all 200 to one engine malfunction).

Oh, I suppose I should tell you where your people will be. The school is located just outside New Delhi. I will not subject them to any propaganda, teaching will be as neutral as humanly possible. The classes (for this group) will take three weeks. In the event of war, and you need them back, it will be up to you to get them yourself. Otherwise, we'll take them back with their certificates at the end. We'll be in Moscow in two days for them!

What curricula will they be studying? It doesn't matter to me, all the same price & time, but you can post it somewhere if you think it's important.

Some of you might be wondering, "Why send my men to an international combat pilot school?" Well, I can only assume that it will only serve to help you in the simulations.
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| September 2, 2010, 10:19 pm
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Quoting Nick Shelton
@Evan and Areetsa: Hush! Indeed, the Royal Navy did hit their own ships with their own missiles, but none were sunk.

@Thomas and Evan: If no combat losses are listed after a battle report, nothing but the Great Gulf Naval Battle ever happened.

I seem to remember a back and forth argument, at the end of which, Cliffe stated that it was unfeasible that missiles could be reverse programmed to hit their own ships without anyone noticing. Ergo, it didn't happen.
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| September 2, 2010, 10:19 pm
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Quoting Thomas N
I seem to remember a back and forth argument, at the end of which, Cliffe stated that it was unfeasible that missiles could be reverse programmed to hit their own ships without anyone noticing. Ergo, it didn't happen.

It's already been said and done, but I protest.


On to better and brighter arguments though.
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| September 2, 2010, 10:21 pm
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Quoting Jack Ford
If I subtract 1 billion from my bill, does that seem fair to you?

Yes, I'd say that is fair. Thank you! I'm flying mine over now, with full tanks. And a C-17 transport for the extra pilots, I'll fly the other planes back. Let me know where to land and we'll go from there.
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| September 2, 2010, 10:22 pm
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Quoting Thomas N
Oceania and the U.A.C. have just completed a deal via Flickrmail. 100 UAH-1s and 60 TU-225s will be sent to Oceania, in exchange for 200 AAFVs.

In addition, the U.A.C. has made a long term contract with Oceania to flesh out its Navy. They have ordered three Sydney class Aircraft Carriers and two Australia class Battleships, a net value of $13 billion, which will be payed in two months when shipyards at Darwin and Sydney has completed the order.

Slight change in plans here, Oceania will now be receiving 24 more Tu-225s, just to make 7 even squads of 12. We will pay for these extra aircraft with cash.
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| September 2, 2010, 10:45 pm
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Quoting Ultramarine .
Yes, I'd say that is fair. Thank you! I'm flying mine over now, with full tanks. And a C-17 transport for the extra pilots, I'll fly the other planes back. Let me know where to land and we'll go from there.

They are cleared to land in Riyahd AFB, in Central Saudi Arabia. Your aircraft are awaiting your arrival on the tarmac.

Also, in response to the above mentioned clearance for your allies to fly over my country en route to your Airforce Academy, it's alright with me, but they will be escorted. Escorting is a standard safety measure applied to all foreign aircraft entering the U.A.C., it's nothing personal. =]
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| September 2, 2010, 11:41 pm
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Quoting Thomas N
I seem to remember a back and forth argument, at the end of which, Cliffe stated that it was unfeasible that missiles could be reverse programmed to hit their own ships without anyone noticing. Ergo, it didn't happen.


Nobody figured out who was behind it, though. Probably the IRA or Nick causing trouble just for the fun of it.
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| September 3, 2010, 12:09 am
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Quoting Jack Ford
They are cleared to land in Riyahd AFB, in Central Saudi Arabia. Your aircraft are awaiting your arrival on the tarmac.

Also, in response to the above mentioned clearance for your allies to fly over my country en route to your Airforce Academy, it's alright with me, but they will be escorted. Escorting is a standard safety measure applied to all foreign aircraft entering the U.A.C., it's nothing personal. =]

Ok, I'm assembling my side of the bargain now, should be ready early tomorrow morning, say 9:00 am.

Those cargo ships will actually belong to me, and that's fine. I'd prefer to be escorted, not knowing who might intend India or the IRA harm. Thank you.
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| September 3, 2010, 12:53 am
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Quoting John Dawn
We will wire transfer the funds and everyone, including the AMA should be picked up in Moscow.

By the way, I trust English is a good language for instruction?
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| September 3, 2010, 12:55 am
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Quoting Ultramarine .
By the way, I trust English is a good language for instruction?

It should be fine, yes.
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| September 3, 2010, 6:14 am
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Quoting Thomas N
I wasn't around for that.


And I wasn't around for the Mongol Conquests, doesn't mean they didn't happen either.
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| September 3, 2010, 6:43 am
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Quoting Awesome-o-saurus The Not-So-Great

And I wasn't around for the Mongol Conquests, doesn't mean they didn't happen either.

I'm not saying the Iranian paratroopers thing didn't happen, I'm saying I don't know anything about it.
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| September 3, 2010, 11:27 am
Quoting Areetsa C

Really? What about the millions of Iranian parachutists that dropped into Scandinavia?

I wonder how long that would've been, in those planes for how many hours
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| September 3, 2010, 1:22 pm
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Quoting Ultramarine .
Very well, your bill is at $1,120,000. That includes the afore mentioned items and transportation. Now, I will be flying over Jack's territory, so thankfully I'll only need to get clearance from him. In the interest of international relations, I will be transporting them 25 each in eight aircraft (just so you don't loose all 200 to one engine malfunction).

Oh, I suppose I should tell you where your people will be. The school is located just outside New Delhi. I will not subject them to any propaganda, teaching will be as neutral as humanly possible. The classes (for this group) will take three weeks. In the event of war, and you need them back, it will be up to you to get them yourself. Otherwise, we'll take them back with their certificates at the end. We'll be in Moscow in two days for them!

What curricula will they be studying? It doesn't matter to me, all the same price & time, but you can post it somewhere if you think it's important.

Some of you might be wondering, "Why send my men to an international combat pilot school?" Well, I can only assume that it will only serve to help you in the simulations.
I want the best dog fighter pilots ever..... please.

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| September 3, 2010, 2:54 pm
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Quoting Thomas N
I'm not saying the Iranian paratroopers thing didn't happen, I'm saying I don't know anything about it.


It certainly sounded that way.

>.>

And I think everyone but me can listen in on my thoughts, too.
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| September 3, 2010, 4:38 pm
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Alright, lets forget arguing, and move back to trading!

Ok, Oceania will begin offering old LAS-1s http://www.mocpages.com/moc.php/195713 to countries with developing navies and/or no submarine force. A total of 20 will be offered, so get 'em while you can!

These ships are cheap, fast, reliable, cheap to operate, and still pack a powerful punch.


To replace some of these subs with something capable of heavier assault, Oceania is contacting Finland about acquiring some five Type-4 submarines.
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| September 3, 2010, 5:58 pm
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Quoting John Dawn
I want the best dog fighter pilots ever..... please.

That you will get, sir, that you will get.
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| September 3, 2010, 8:42 pm
The USCA is giving France the rights to build Wolverine IFV's in return for rights to build Eurocopter Cougers (AS 532 SC). This was negotiated through AIM.
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| September 5, 2010, 12:11 pm
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Erik, mah boi, I am interested in those nifty new patrol vehicles with artillery we can believe in and maybe some more. May I have a price on these? And are there any Labor Day sales going on.
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| September 5, 2010, 4:06 pm
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Quoting Ham N' Biscuits
Erik, mah boi, I am interested in those nifty new patrol vehicles with artillery we can believe in and maybe some more. May I have a price on these? And are there any Labor Day sales going on.

I can sell you the APV, but not the artillery I'm afraid. The 203mm was a specialized contract for a land-grab from Dawn. Anyhow, the APV runs roughly the same as an armored HMMWV (140K USD), but with you in the IIS you can produce x-amount with only a 10% return to me. Meaning you only pay fourteen thousand per unit.

If you need more clarification hit me up with an FM.
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| September 5, 2010, 4:14 pm
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Quoting Thomas N

To replace some of these subs with something capable of heavier assault, Oceania is contacting Finland about acquiring some five Type-4 submarines.


In return, Finland would like to trade said Type-4s for an equal amount of Stealth Cruisers.
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| September 5, 2010, 10:52 pm
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Quoting Matt Hacker

In return, Finland would like to trade said Type-4s for an equal amount of Stealth Cruisers.

Its a done deal, pleasure doing business with you. We will begin reparation of five Stealth Cruisers to send to you immediately.
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| September 5, 2010, 11:00 pm
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Quoting Thomas N
Its a done deal, pleasure doing business with you. We will begin reparation of five Stealth Cruisers to send to you immediately.


We will begin construction of the requested submarines utilizing all of the IIS' facilities. Hopefully, this way your order may be completed within 40 days.
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| September 5, 2010, 11:02 pm
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Quoting Matt Hacker

We will begin construction of the requested submarines utilizing all of the IIS' facilities. Hopefully, this way your order may be completed within 40 days.

You could use the IIS compatible ship building drydocks located at Perth or Darwin, to make things easy.
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| September 5, 2010, 11:13 pm
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Quoting Thomas N
You could use the IIS compatible ship building drydocks located at Perth or Darwin, to make things easy.


That sounds like an excellent plan.
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| September 5, 2010, 11:14 pm
We would now like to open up trade with France and the new united-Europe-thingamabobajigowhack. We got shtuff. Lots o' shtuff.
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| September 6, 2010, 3:43 pm
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Quoting Kaiser Pharaoh Cliffe
We would now like to open up trade with France and the new united-Europe-thingamabobajigowhack. We got shtuff. Lots o' shtuff.

Union of Federal Europe.

Anyhow, I'm particularly interested for the sheer fact of increasing commerce between neighbors. My main output is energy, food, and automotive bits [at least in the past few months]. And of course equipment.
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| September 6, 2010, 4:14 pm
Quoting Dr. Spontaneous
Union of Federal Europe.

Anyhow, I'm particularly interested for the sheer fact of increasing commerce between neighbors. My main output is energy, food, and automotive bits [at least in the past few months]. And of course equipment.

Germany's primary commodities are coal, all kind of scientific research, Automotive shtuff, energy hardware and equipment, manufacturing equipment, railroad hardware, rail service, and Prussian potatoes.

Now, if you're interested in trading with Egypt as well, you're going to have a LOT of fun with it. Egypt has in fact become the economic center of the entire Imperial Federation. It has all kinds of software, robotics stuff, all kinds of computers and handheld devices, more oil than you can imagine (because we barely use any of it ourselves), solar energy up the wazoo, solar energy equipment and hardware, all kinds of advanced medical supplies, equipment, and hardware, gold, lapis lazuli, and just about any other kind of equipment, hardware, or software you can think of...
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| September 6, 2010, 7:19 pm
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Quoting Kaiser Pharaoh Cliffe

I'm interested in obtaining a nice bit of oil. Although I've encouraged my civil economy to switch to alternative fuels, I still don't mind having a good load in reserve for military logistics.
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| September 6, 2010, 7:30 pm
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I'm looking to trade away some old military designs for money/oil.

/awaits.
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| September 6, 2010, 7:55 pm
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Quoting Nick Shelton
I'm looking to trade away some old military designs for money/oil.

/awaits.

Exactly which ole designs?
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| September 6, 2010, 8:03 pm
Quoting Dr. Spontaneous
I'm interested in obtaining a nice bit of oil. Although I've encouraged my civil economy to switch to alternative fuels, I still don't mind having a good load in reserve for military logistics.

$50 USD a gallon. Probably $300 a barrel or something. Shipped in from Egypt to wherever you like.
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| September 6, 2010, 8:04 pm
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Quoting Thomas N
Exactly which ole designs?

It depends on who they are.
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| September 6, 2010, 8:05 pm
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Quoting Nick Shelton
It depends on who they are.

I'm interested in the MAC-1.
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| September 6, 2010, 8:06 pm
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Quoting Kaiser Pharaoh Cliffe
$50 USD a gallon. Probably $300 a barrel or something. Shipped in from Egypt to wherever you like.

that's a lot...
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| September 6, 2010, 8:07 pm
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Quoting Kaiser Pharaoh Cliffe
$50 USD a gallon. Probably $300 a barrel or something. Shipped in from Egypt to wherever you like.

Eww. Imperial system.

Anyhow, that's a mighty large price for a barrel. In 2010, US companies only pay [roughly] $75.
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| September 6, 2010, 8:11 pm
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For any third world countries with more than 90 aircraft and have some moolah, the SRGL is looking to sell a nimitz-class class knock-off(Not worse, refitted with better tech actually). We need some more cash to finish our supercarriers.
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| September 6, 2010, 8:16 pm
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Quoting Thomas N
I'm interested in the MAC-1.

Not quite old, I meant like old old designs, but since we're both developed countries, I'll sell you some, or trade if you prefer.
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| September 6, 2010, 8:23 pm
Quoting Dr. Spontaneous
Eww. Imperial system.

Anyhow, that's a mighty large price for a barrel. In 2010, US companies only pay [roughly] $75.

Oh.

Then we'd probably charge around $25 a barrel. That's about 20 Federal Credits in our currency.
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| September 6, 2010, 8:25 pm
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Quoting Kaiser Pharaoh Cliffe
Oh.

Then we'd probably charge around $25 a barrel. That's about 20 Federal Credits in our currency.

Granted this our first ordeal in matters of trade, I'll have to make a minimalist order of just 100,000 barrels. This should be 2.5 million in terms of the European Standard Oro. Marseilles would be the preferred delivery site.
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| September 6, 2010, 8:37 pm
Quoting Dr. Spontaneous
Granted this our first ordeal in matters of trade, I'll have to make a minimalist order of just 100,000 barrels. This should be 2.5 million in terms of the European Standard Oro. Marseilles would be the preferred delivery site.

Confirmed. Ships are on the way. Good deal, mate.
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| September 6, 2010, 8:45 pm
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Quoting Nick Shelton
Not quite old, I meant like old old designs, but since we're both developed countries, I'll sell you some, or trade if you prefer.

I'm just looking for a few to use as armored transport for top-ranking officers.
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| September 6, 2010, 11:17 pm
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Earlier today, UNO completed a deal with France that would cede over the island of New Caledonia in exchange for one Sydney Class Aircraft Carrier.
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| September 12, 2010, 10:42 pm
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Quoting Thomas N
Earlier today, UNO completed a deal with France that would cede over the island of New Caledonia in exchange for one Sydney Class Aircraft Carrier.

France confirms this.
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| September 12, 2010, 10:43 pm
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Quoting Evan Melick
Orders for me due around 8.00PM tomorrow if you could. Thanks.

Wrong thread, bro.
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| September 12, 2010, 10:44 pm
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The IRA is wire transferring $460 million to India for 200 F-1's with drop tanks.
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| September 14, 2010, 3:07 pm
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Finland is interested in procuring a single example of a Hyperfalcon for evaluation purposes.
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| September 15, 2010, 9:44 pm
FTSA is interested in purchasing several AAFVs and at least two Wellington-Class Escort Carriers from Oceania, as well as a large amount of C106 GPMRVs from the UFS.
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| September 15, 2010, 10:11 pm
Quoting Matt Hacker
Finland is interested in procuring a single example of a Hyperfalcon for evaluation purposes.

One of our boys will fly up to Finland in it himself. With him will come a few men from one of our agencies- for there are a few pretty classified aspects of the FF-1A.
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| September 15, 2010, 10:28 pm
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Quoting Rocky W.
FTSA is interested in purchasing several AAFVs and at least two Wellington-Class Escort Carriers from Oceania, as well as a large amount of C106 GPMRVs from the UFS.

Oooooh money, how can I resist?

Wellingtons run at $2 billion each.

AAFVs run at $4.8 million each.

Due to my current neutral status, I give you two options for the delivery of this equipment. 1, we wait and I deliver after hostilities have ended, or 2, I deliver them during conflict, transfer any liability for damage due to attack en route to you, and I just make open affirmations right now that I am willing to trade with both sides of the conflict.

If 2, then I would feel obliged to make a commitment of equal value to the other side, paid of course.
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| September 15, 2010, 10:46 pm
I suggest a trade Embargo on Nick by all nations that have some sense of right and wrong.
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| September 15, 2010, 10:56 pm
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Quoting Will G.
I suggest a trade Embargo on Nick by all nations that have some sense of right and wrong.

I suggest you don't. I can requisition two Jedi Diplomats and some Gungans.
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| September 15, 2010, 10:59 pm
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Quoting Rocky W.
FTSA is interested in purchasing several AAFVs and at least two Wellington-Class Escort Carriers from Oceania, as well as a large amount of C106 GPMRVs from the UFS.


Finland, while flattered by such an offer, cannot accept for neutrality purposes. As you are engaged in a war in which I am the combat mod, I cannot help supply a nation to give them an advantage, just for neutrality purposes. However, when/if this conflict ends soon we are willing to continue negotiations over this deal.
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| September 15, 2010, 11:02 pm
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Quoting John Dawn
The IRA is wire transferring $460 million to India for 200 F-1's with drop tanks.

We got it, they'll be heading your way tomorrow. You can go ahead and manufacture those drop tanks for yourself, they are specialized for the F-1.
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| September 15, 2010, 11:06 pm
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India needs five or six good, regular size submarines for its navy. The recent conflict has shown that only two won't do the job. Rather than take production facilities off of current projects, we'll go shopping.

Specs:
At least 4 torpedo tubes
Cruise missile capable
Diesel and nuclear propulsion
25 knots when submerged
850' diving depth

Thank you.
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| September 16, 2010, 12:52 am
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Quoting Ultramarine .
India needs five or six good, regular size submarines for its navy. The recent conflict has shown that only two won't do the job. Rather than take production facilities off of current projects, we'll go shopping.

Specs:
At least 4 torpedo tubes
Cruise missile capable
Diesel and nuclear propulsion
25 knots when submerged
850' diving depth

Thank you.

http://www.mocpages.com/moc.php/195713
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| September 16, 2010, 7:59 am
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Quoting Will G.
I suggest a trade Embargo on Nick by all nations that have some sense of right and wrong.


I suggest those of us with highly developed senses of right and wrong who want nothing short of the absolute best for our citizens donate a regiment each of our best tanks to Nick to help him secure the land and resources he needs to keep his nation alive.
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| September 16, 2010, 9:01 am
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Quoting Ultramarine .
India needs five or six good, regular size submarines for its navy. The recent conflict has shown that only two won't do the job. Rather than take production facilities off of current projects, we'll go shopping.

Specs:
At least 4 torpedo tubes
Cruise missile capable
Diesel and nuclear propulsion
25 knots when submerged
850' diving depth

Thank you.


Finland would like to extend an offer for our Type-4 submarines. While at the moment it is soley nuclar powered, if desired, we could quickly make an export version with diesel engines. The Type 4 can attain speeds of 30 knots submerged, and it has a 2,100 foot crush depth.

http://mocpages.com/moc.php/220353

We would be honored to sell these to you, and if the need is urgent enough, we could loan some of the Finnish Navy's Type 4s until your orders are completed.
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| September 16, 2010, 9:20 am
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Quoting Matt Hacker

India would like to purchase three of these models. Please deliver as soon as possible, thank you.

India would also like to purchase two of these examples. Thank you both, let me know how much I owe you.
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| September 16, 2010, 11:26 am
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Quoting Ultramarine .


Im really sorry that I have to say this, but the other member nations of the UFE have vetoed the plan to sell Type-4s to India. I hope that you have good luck in your sub procurement.
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| September 16, 2010, 7:18 pm
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Quoting Matt Hacker

Im really sorry that I have to say this, but the other member nations of the UFE have vetoed the plan to sell Type-4s to India. I hope that you have good luck in your sub procurement.

Well, it's your loss! I'll just take my further business to Oceania then.
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| September 16, 2010, 7:21 pm
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Quoting Ultramarine .
Well, it's your loss! I'll just take my further business to Oceania then.


Of course im not happy with losing a $6 billion dollar contract >.> but I will live with it.
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| September 16, 2010, 7:22 pm
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Quoting Matt Hacker

Of course im not happy with losing a $6 billion dollar contract >.> but I will live with it.

That's why I haven't joined any international alliances...
Who are these other members? I'll wave a few bills under their noses and see if that will change their minds...
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| September 16, 2010, 7:25 pm
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Quoting Ultramarine .
That's why I haven't joined any international alliances...
Who are these other members? I'll wave a few bills under their noses and see if that will change their minds...


While politics dont belong here, everyone else in the UFE (Jake, Evan, and Erik) vetoed the plan. And please dont do anything stupid, they dont take any cr@p like that.
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| September 16, 2010, 7:27 pm
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Quoting Ultramarine .
Well, it's your loss! I'll just take my further business to Oceania then.

/evil laugh.

I pursue a different kind of neutrality. While other nations put trade embargoes on belligerents, I sell to both sides of conflict, thereby showing my neutrality thorough support of both sides, rather than denial of both sides. In this way, I don't lose money.

Any way, I suppose you'll be wanting more LAS-1s than just two? They run on diesel, as they are smaller than nuclear counterparts, and only run at a coast of $1 Billion each.
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| September 16, 2010, 7:27 pm
Algeria could probably get you a sub in an hour or two, just give our engineers (me) a little bit of time to work on it.
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| September 16, 2010, 7:30 pm
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Quoting Thomas N
/evil laugh.

Any way, I suppose you'll be wanting more LAS-1s than just two? They run on diesel, as they are smaller than nuclear counterparts, and only run at a coast of $1 Billion each.

Your write-up says nuclear power...

And, yes, I'll need more than two. Huh, my gold production should pay for those in a year & a half, but I have the cash on hand right now, so you'll get it COD.

Quoting Jake H.
Algeria could probably get you a sub in an hour or two, just give our engineers (me) a little bit of time to work on it.

I don't want to borrow, I want to buy. No offense, but your sub is a little too small.
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| September 16, 2010, 7:36 pm
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For issues of clarity, I will now be posting the pricing on all Oceanian makes of Naval vessels.

LAS-1s: $1 Billion each
Escort Destroyers: $1 Billion each
Stealth Cruisers: $2 Billion each
Wellington Class Escort Carriers: $2 Billion each (not inc. planes)
Australia Class Battleships: $2.8 Billion
Sydney Class Aircraft Carriers: $3 Billion (not inc. planes)
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| September 16, 2010, 7:37 pm
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Quoting Matt Hacker

While politics dont belong here, everyone else in the UFE (Jake, Evan, and Erik) vetoed the plan. And please dont do anything stupid, they dont take any cr@p like that.

What, you think I'm going to invade them?!?! Yeesh, I'm not a bad guy, I was attacked preemptively for heaven's sake, I don't just go on random rampages! A little bit of credit here, please.
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| September 16, 2010, 7:39 pm
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Quoting Ultramarine .
Your write-up says nuclear power...

And, yes, I'll need more than two. Huh, my gold production should pay for those in a year & a half, but I have the cash on hand right now, so you'll get it COD.

It does? I could've sworn I said diesel... No matter, same price anyways.

How many would you be interested in?
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| September 16, 2010, 7:39 pm
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Quoting Thomas N
/evil laugh.

I pursue a different kind of neutrality. While other nations put trade embargoes on belligerents, I sell to both sides of conflict, thereby showing my neutrality thorough support of both sides, rather than denial of both sides. In this way, I don't lose money.

This isn't a matter of neutrality alone, but rather a defense issue. Europe cannot afford for one of its top naval assets be handed over to a nation with no favor towards us nor with any particular standings at all. We could fairly well end up with an Afghan clause where our own weapons are shooting at us. Not a good situation; thus the veto.

And this isn't a poke at India; so I/we don't mean any ill manners at all. Rather, this is an expression of extreme caution.
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| September 16, 2010, 7:40 pm
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Quoting Dr. Spontaneous
Quoting Thomas N
/evil laugh.

I pursue a different kind of neutrality. While other nations put trade embargoes on belligerents, I sell to both sides of conflict, thereby showing my neutrality thorough support of both sides, rather than denial of both sides. In this way, I don't lose money.

This isn't a matter of neutrality alone, but rather a defense issue. Europe cannot afford for one of its top naval assets be handed over to a nation with no favor towards us nor with any particular standings at all. We could fairly well end up with an Afghan clause where our own weapons are shooting at us. Not a good situation; thus the veto.

And this isn't a poke at India; so we/I don't mean any ill manners at all. Rather, this is an expression of extreme caution.

Such sensibilities, I'm afraid mine are blinded by the beckoning call of economic advancement.
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| September 16, 2010, 7:43 pm
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Quoting Dr. Spontaneous
This isn't a matter of neutrality alone, but rather a defense issue. Europe cannot afford for one of its top naval assets be handed over to a nation with no favor towards us nor with any particular standings at all. We could fairly well end up with an Afghan clause where our own weapons are shooting at us. Not a good situation; thus the veto.

Better the evil you know, sir; than to chance the evil you don't. I'd rather sell a potential enemy a weapon I know all the weaknesses of than not know at all.
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| September 16, 2010, 7:43 pm
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Quoting Thomas N
It does? I could've sworn I said diesel... No matter, same price anyways.

How many would you be interested in?

Cool, I'll take 5 for $5 Billion total.
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| September 16, 2010, 7:45 pm
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Quoting Ultramarine .
Better the evil you know, sir; than to chance the evil you don't. I'd rather sell a potential enemy a weapon I know all the weaknesses of than not know at all.

It'd be different if the technology were retired or minute, but something like a nuclear sub in service with 3/4 of the Union is different. We may know the in-and-outs, but you do too; a matter of an advantage lost. To each his own, I'll pursue this no further. I do wish you to not keep a grudge or negative connotation, however.
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| September 16, 2010, 7:49 pm
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Quoting Dr. Spontaneous
I'll pursue this no further. I do wish you to not keep a grudge or negative connotation, however.

I'm not. And I wish everyone would stop automatically assuming I'd go ballistic in a flash if I don't like something I wanted. Read a couple comments up for the reaction I'd repeat right now...
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| September 16, 2010, 7:53 pm
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Quoting Ultramarine .
Cool, I'll take 5 for $5 Billion total.

We have a deal. I will send you five of our twenty reserve subs as soon as the money is wired in.
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| September 16, 2010, 7:53 pm
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Quoting Ultramarine .
I'm not. And I wish everyone would stop automatically assuming I'd go ballistic in a flash if I don't like something I wanted. Read a couple comments up for the reaction I'd repeat right now...

Oh, no. I wasn't implying you would, but rather a formality I use with all people. It's just something I tack on to express my faith for mutual relations is all.
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| September 16, 2010, 7:56 pm
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Quoting Thomas N
We have a deal. I will send you five of our twenty reserve subs as soon as the money is wired in.

Done! My accountant almost misplaced a zero, but we're good now. Thank you, once again, it has been quite profitable.

Quoting Dr. Spontaneous
Oh, no. I wasn't implying you would, but rather a formality I use with all people. It's just something I tack on to express my faith for mutual relations is all.

Oh, good. Yeah, I suppose. I guess we can't all sign non-aggression pacts or this group wouldn't be any fun, so I understand.
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| September 16, 2010, 8:00 pm
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The IRA would like to purchase 6 Rockwell B-1B Lancers.
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| September 16, 2010, 8:45 pm
Quoting John Dawn
The IRA would like to purchase 6 Rockwell B-1B Lancers.

I can sell them to you for $30 Million, each, so $180 Million total. I am, however, involved in a giant war, so if you want to risk neutrality, go ahead.
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| September 16, 2010, 10:36 pm
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Quoting John Dawn
The IRA would like to purchase 6 Rockwell B-1B Lancers.

Well, India could fill that order with an equivalent bomber with better avionics (like I said, the model is slightly less than to scale) for around the same price as quoted, but you'll have to wait for production to catch up and the order to be filled.
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| September 21, 2010, 1:00 am
The UMN is looking for 3 unused Tu-95 Russian bombers for our "special" purposes and 5 unused b-1 Lancer bombers for our airforce.
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| September 21, 2010, 10:25 am
I'm interested in getting my engineers as close to a coil gun as possible. Anyone interested in letting me have a look? I'd be willing to pay, give units, or give technology.
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| September 22, 2010, 9:49 pm
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Quoting Sour Cream
The UMN is looking for 3 unused Tu-95 Russian bombers for our "special" purposes and 5 unused b-1 Lancer bombers for our airforce.

I have a couple Tu-95's sitting around.
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| September 22, 2010, 9:54 pm
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Quoting Jake H.
I'm interested in getting my engineers as close to a coil gun as possible. Anyone interested in letting me have a look? I'd be willing to pay, give units, or give technology.

Those got de-canonized. People aren't allowed to use 'em anymore.
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| September 22, 2010, 10:38 pm
Quoting Areetsa C
Those got de-canonized. People aren't allowed to use 'em anymore.

Awww...I don't suppose there's any more, incredibly long range guns lying around then?
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| September 22, 2010, 10:39 pm
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Quoting Jake H.
Awww...I don't suppose there's any more, incredibly long range guns lying around then?

Well, there's missiles.

And if it's any consolation, Cliffe's lasers are banned too.
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| September 22, 2010, 10:47 pm
Quoting Areetsa C
Well, there's missiles.

And if it's any consolation, Cliffe's lasers are banned too.

Well missiles it is. Thanks Areetsa, for informing me before I spent a month researching coil guns, and the thing about lasers makes does make me happy.
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| September 22, 2010, 11:09 pm
Quoting John Dawn
I have a couple Tu-95's sitting around.

What kind of payment you accept?, natural resources or hard cash. Your pick
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| September 23, 2010, 9:50 am
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The SRGL would like to ask France the cost of kits to upgrade our AMBT-1s. We also are interested in some other products of yours.
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| September 23, 2010, 10:04 am
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Quoting Sour Cream
What kind of payment you accept?, natural resources or hard cash. Your pick

Cash is good, but i can't figure out how much one costs.
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| September 23, 2010, 2:56 pm
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Quoting Ham N' Biscuits
The SRGL would like to ask France the cost of kits to upgrade our AMBT-1s. We also are interested in some other products of yours.

As an IIS member, you're open to domestic production of whichever item(s) of your choosing. That's to say, feel free to whatever, but just let me know how many of x-whatever you're constructing.
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| September 23, 2010, 4:01 pm
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Quoting John Dawn
Cash is good, but i can't figure out how much one costs.

~$555 Million/piece.
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| September 23, 2010, 11:54 pm
Quoting John Dawn
Cash is good, but i can't figure out how much one costs.

There you have it, Im sending an amount of money needed for the purchase. You're cleared to land in any of my airfield to deliver the package.
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| September 24, 2010, 6:01 am
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Quoting Sour Cream
There you have it, Im sending an amount of money needed for the purchase. You're cleared to land in any of my airfield to deliver the package.

Thank you, They are being prepped for flight and will take off at 0900 EST.
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| September 24, 2010, 7:40 am
 Group moderator 
Quoting Ultramarine .
~$555 Million/piece.
Thank you.

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| September 24, 2010, 7:44 am
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