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22- here we go. What's up in teh urthz?

-PCU, Canada, Africa, India, Siberia, Mongolia, Prusso-Egypt-Mesopotamia-Axum-Texas, and SRGL are all at war one way or another.

Madness has been unleashed. Who will live, and who will die?
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| September 11, 2010, 10:37 pm
Quoting Awesome-o-saurus The Not-So-Great
22- here we go. What's up in teh urthz?

-PCU, Canada, Africa, India, Siberia, Mongolia, Prusso-Egypt-Mesopotamia-Axum-Texas, and SRGL are all at war one way or another.

Madness has been unleashed. Who will live, and who will die?

The cocjroaches will definatley survive!
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| September 11, 2010, 10:44 pm
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Quoting Admiral A.C. 'Jake' Weagle
The cocjroaches will definatley survive!


Not the ones that live with us. They're too dependent on our heating and food.
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| September 11, 2010, 10:47 pm
And Mongolia was not mentioned despite the 5000 men in Alaska because?
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| September 11, 2010, 10:48 pm
Does anyone know a way to contact Areetsa besides flickr mail? I want to actually calculate where the coil gun rounds will land so as not to irritate anyone and I need some important numbers from him
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| September 11, 2010, 10:49 pm
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Quoting John Moffatt
Does anyone know a way to contact Areetsa besides flickr mail? I want to actually calculate where the coil gun rounds will land so as not to irritate anyone and I need some important numbers from him


He's in New Zealand. The time difference probably means he's asleep right now.
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| September 11, 2010, 10:55 pm
No, that would be behind us in time, wouldn't it? Or are they already at tomorrow....
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| September 11, 2010, 10:58 pm
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Quoting John Moffatt
No, that would be behind us in time, wouldn't it? Or are they already at tomorrow....


They're a good deal of time in tomorrow.
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| September 11, 2010, 11:01 pm
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India has dispatched counter-insurgency teams to get the situation under control, should any more 'situations' arise. Reprisal raids have been made against several suspected arms dealers in Pakistan, and the borders are being restricted. Emergency and paramedic teams are responding with repair teams not far behind.

India's citizens must know who will win and who will lose. Once the attacks proceed as planned, it will show India's enemies in her borders and abroad that there is no hope in resistance.

Chinese civilians have been extended the offer to enlist and improve their lives. That, and India wishes to decrease the chances of internal strife by integrating diverse ethnic groups into a common goal and help them understand that they have a vested interest in their future. Enlistment rates are proportionate, advertising will begin soon to boost the numbers.
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| September 11, 2010, 11:03 pm
USCA factories are now slowing down munitions production in order to regain economic stability by continuing the manufacture of M1 fuel cells. These will be shipped (via airplanes specifically marked CIVILIAN) to Europe tomorrow morning. They will not traverse Libyan/Tunisian airspace either.
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| September 11, 2010, 11:11 pm
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The first ALDS will begin testing at 0000 hours EST. The evaluation should end around a similar time Thursday. The collected data will determine the life expectancy of the program and if any more orders should be advised granted they're worth a pretty penny or two. Maybe a shiny nickle.

Anyhow, the two Maur. Reps. are undergoing a second night's worth of delegations. Yesterday led to a bit of bickering and reasoning as of why the change of heart and becoming separate nations; nothing special. Tonight will be the first set of "real" negotiations to press towards mutual benefits. After these extended talks are done, the Nat. Rep. of Maur. is looking at becoming an Atlantic state ensuite.

Also, a new generation of early-detections systems are replacing some of the more elderly ones as well as filling the gap in APA-member nations. Upgraded AA munitions will also be placed into action during these next few weeks of installation.
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| September 11, 2010, 11:21 pm
The Imperial Federation of Prusso-Egypt is ecstatic to announce the final completion of the starship IFS Brinstar. Pictures will be up on Flickr momentarily.

The vessel is primarily a research and exploration vessel, however, it is also capable of offense and defense, and packs a few very well hidden surprises.

It has been officially christened and launched in orbit as of about twenty-seven minutes ago tonight.
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| September 11, 2010, 11:27 pm
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Quoting Kaiser Pharaoh Cliffe
The vessel is primarily a research and exploration vessel, however, it is also capable of offense and defense, and packs a few very well hidden surprises.

If you try to use that as a weapons platform against me you'll be sorry. Not a threat, just saying. Thank you...
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| September 11, 2010, 11:34 pm
I wonder if I could up the power of those coil guns
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| September 11, 2010, 11:36 pm
Quoting Evan Melick
I'd like to just point out in my opinion, any use of starships ruins the fun of the group. Railgun satellites and all this nonsense is crossing the line enough.

I consider it pretty darn unchivalrous to target ground forces from space- however, ship on ship conflict in space is an exciting prospect...

Plus, the Kaiser, the Pharaoh, other leaders of Prusso-Egypt and I are all looking very forward to a trip to the Moon and Mars in the near future. We can't wait to get to Mars... there will be so much to do there!
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| September 11, 2010, 11:42 pm
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Should we ban any space vehicle or 'killer satellite,' allowing only comm and spy satellites? Otherwise, I have an azim clon leagonz standing by...
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| September 11, 2010, 11:44 pm
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Quoting Thomas N
seconded

Thirded.

Democracy is fun this way.
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| September 11, 2010, 11:45 pm
Quoting Kaiser Pharaoh Cliffe
We can't wait to get to Mars... there will be so much to do there!

I'm sorry, I have to laugh at that. You totally just reminded me of the "activities!" seen in step brothers...
Anyway, in the USCA, an expeditionary force of 35,000 Coalition infantry, 75 fighter aircraft, and 50 tanks are being transferred to Indian command.
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| September 11, 2010, 11:47 pm
Quoting -> avalella
Anyway, the USCA is transferring control of 75 fighter aircraft to India, for use in the offensive against the SRGL.

You still have fighters left?

Hm. That's interesting.
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| September 11, 2010, 11:58 pm
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Quoting Kaiser Pharaoh Cliffe
You still have fighters left?

Hm. That's interesting.


Observing the Combat Reports, it would seem that the USCA is proving a tough nut to crack using air alone. Remember that air power has never won a war.
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| September 11, 2010, 11:59 pm
Quoting Matt Hacker

Observing the Combat Reports, it would seem that the USCA is proving a tough nut to crack using air alone. Remember that air power has never won a war.

I know that, I haven't decided if I should invade them or not. The plan so far has been to simply deprive them of an air force and prevent them from invading Libya.
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| September 12, 2010, 12:03 am
Quoting Evan Melick
Frankly, I'm in favor of this. But too many people here are addicted to their magical, if highly technologically improbable Star Wars.

Oh, they're pretty technologically probable, they're just barely economically feasible. The IFS Brinstar was possible largely thanks to Egypt's super-duper energy and computer industries; although every part of every economy of Prusso-Egypt pitched in.
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| September 12, 2010, 12:06 am
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Aboard the Hydra Class vessel FNS Starfury, space defense system tests were carried out against the Gne IV, an old French telecommunications satellite, with the French government's permission of course. The space defense sstem which came with they Hydras were found to be highly accurate, and extremely destructive. This will be a useful tool to destroy a certain Rail Gun carrying space station employed by a nation that Finland is not so friendly with, if a war breaks out, of course.
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| September 12, 2010, 12:50 am
Quoting Kaiser Pharaoh Cliffe
The Imperial Federation of Prusso-Egypt is ecstatic to announce the final completion of the starship IFS Brinstar. Pictures will be up on Flickr momentarily.

The vessel is primarily a research and exploration vessel, however, it is also capable of offense and defense, and packs a few very well hidden surprises.

It has been officially christened and launched in orbit as of about twenty-seven minutes ago tonight.


When did you commission such a vessel, just curious?
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| September 12, 2010, 1:19 am
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Quoting Awesome-o-saurus The Not-So-Great

He's in New Zealand. The time difference probably means he's asleep right now.


Actually I was busy with such interesting things as church and the laptop.

Quoting Kaiser Pharaoh Cliffe
It has been officially christened and launched in orbit as of about twenty-seven minutes ago tonight.


What's its drive system?
Because if it's nuclear pulse propelled, people will be very unhappy with you if you launched it from inside the Earth's atmosphere.

Also, starship is the wrong term. A starship is a craft capable of traveling between stars. Nothing within the reaches of modern or near future science can do that practically.

Quoting John Moffatt
I wonder if I could up the power of those coil guns


As long as you don't mind them melting after the first shot, anything's possible. I think some interesting things happen when you start moving a projectile far enough past the speed of sound, though.

Quoting Kaiser Pharaoh Cliffe
I consider it pretty darn unchivalrous to target ground forces from space- however, ship on ship conflict in space is an exciting prospect...


Picture two elephants. Imagine they're in a perfect, frictionless and almost completely empty void. Also imagine they aren't constrained by biological imperatives such as oxygen and food.

Give them both giant sniper rifles that fire nukes.

First one to shoot, wins. First one to get hit gets blown into tiny tiny pieces.

1st space battle in the history of elephantkind conluded.

Quoting Kaiser Pharaoh Cliffe
Plus, the Kaiser, the Pharaoh, other leaders of Prusso-Egypt and I are all looking very forward to a trip to the Moon and Mars in the near future. We can't wait to get to Mars... there will be so much to do there!


Best case, months there, months back.
Tons of equipment and supplies, and if you miss just one supply trip to your planned colony they'll all die off.

Quoting Evan Melick
I'd like to just point out in my opinion, any use of starships ruins the fun of the group. Railgun satellites and all this nonsense is crossing the line enough.


They're pretty much just status symbols. In practice, they've vulnerable, difficult to supply and not really as useful for attacking ground targets as I initially thought. I'm not quite sure why I bothered building one in the first place, actually.

I mean, it could come in handy but a ordinary weapons satellite could do that. Well, other than that a weapons satellite can't dodge.

Quoting Kaiser Pharaoh Cliffe
Oh, they're pretty technologically probable, they're just barely economically feasible. The IFS Brinstar was possible largely thanks to Egypt's super-duper energy and computer industries; although every part of every economy of Prusso-Egypt pitched in.


"In other financial news, Prusso Egypt is now officially bankrupt due to a sudden massive increase in space program funding. An anonymous source inside the Kaiser-Pharaoh's administration had this to say: "I don't know why he did this. It's not even a particularly good idea. It's just a great big game of "mine's bigger" with a foreign power that frankly is far better suited as a society for this sort of ridiculous posturing". Fred Frederickson, TV3 News, signing off."

Quoting Evan Melick
I'm not going to get into a technological debate with you.

It's ridiculous to think that any space vessel of any kind that can function as a workable military weapon will be available for launch by 2036. NASA and the ESA combined barely expect to get a simple rocket and a capsule on the way to mars by 2030. It's not going to happen, I'm sorry.


Well, they're workable, I wouldn't say they're practical but they're certainly workable.

As for Cliffe's ship design... eh, let's just say it'd make a better submarine.

Quoting Matt Hacker
This will be a useful tool to destroy a certain Rail Gun carrying space station employed by a nation that Finland is not so friendly with, if a war breaks out, of course.


No-one in this group that I know of has a space station.
Unless you're talking about Cliffe's new toy, because it'd be the practical joke of the century if he was just pretending.

Speaking of space stations, does anyone know what happened to the ISS?
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| September 12, 2010, 5:58 am
Texas, obviously independent from the traitorous Prusso-Egypt, is not actually at war, we are not part of the PCU either. We still wait for war to come.
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| September 12, 2010, 9:40 am
Quoting Evan Melick
Frankly, I'm in favor of this. But too many people here are addicted to their magical, if highly technologically improbable Star Wars.

Not so much star wars as it is UNE COP...

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| September 12, 2010, 9:42 am
I have one thing I would like to say, while I was gone apparently Ham and I had our nations stolen and given to Nick, by Cliffe, and nobody, nobody cared. They're all worried about taking land in Africa, it's Africa for crying out loud, what is possibly so great about that Godforsaken place? All you have is corrupt dictators and tribal warlords killing eachother 9001 times over.

Sorry for the rant there but it should be know, that the SRGL and the Republic of Texas are not under PCU control.
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| September 12, 2010, 10:01 am
The SML web is almost completed, as construction is being finished up in Mali.
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| September 12, 2010, 10:23 am
Quoting Thomas N
enlighten me. What is this SML web?

Basically, a bunch of tanks/SAM launchers moved to defensive positions around my borders.
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| September 12, 2010, 10:27 am
Quoting Thomas N
What does SML stand for then?

Here's a link to the MOC. http://www.flickr.com/photos/jake_h/4824163697/
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| September 12, 2010, 10:36 am
Quoting Jake H.
Basically, a bunch of tanks/SAM launchers moved to defensive positions around my borders.

If I were you, I'd focus much more on putting them on your border with the SRGL. If Cliffe tries to attack you, he'd have to go through the USCA first (literally). Also, please try to keep their positioning secret. As long as you tell Evan your good.
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| September 12, 2010, 10:38 am
Quoting Thomas N
Actually,if the thought crossed Cliffe's mind and he wanted to invade Algeria, he could go right through Libya. So the Libyan border would be of importance to Algeria as well.

Not that I care, just pointing out geographical stuff.

I noticed that, however Cliffe only seems to be sending his air force over the USCA.
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| September 12, 2010, 10:52 am
Thoughts of making high advanced tech have crossed my mind...
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| September 12, 2010, 10:56 am
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Quoting Will G.
I have one thing I would like to say, while I was gone apparently Ham and I had our nations stolen and given to Nick, by Cliffe, and nobody, nobody cared. They're all worried about taking land in Africa, it's Africa for crying out loud, what is possibly so great about that Godforsaken place? All you have is corrupt dictators and tribal warlords killing eachother 9001 times over.

Sorry for the rant there but it should be know, that the SRGL and the Republic of Texas are not under PCU control.

The way it was worded was I get control over Texas and the SRGL's land if I give up a lot of my land. I see now that was not the case.

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| September 12, 2010, 11:06 am
Quoting Thomas N
Actually,if the thought crossed Cliffe's mind and he wanted to invade Algeria, he could go right through Libya. So the Libyan border would be of importance to Algeria as well.

Not that I care, just pointing out geographical stuff.

Well his economy is pretty much wrecked from that star ship, so I feel relatively safe.

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| September 12, 2010, 11:21 am
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Quoting Thomas N
Well, you can get the land, you just have to fight for it...

You didn't really think Ham or Will were just going to give in?


Wise Tom is wise. Very wise.
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| September 12, 2010, 11:22 am
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Quoting Evan Melick
On the state of economics, as Combat Mod, I vouch for this. Fighting in Switzerland, having to mass troops in Africa, put naval forces in the Pacific and Atlantic, and somehow putting some hail-mary startship in the skies is enough to begin the crumbling of even his large economy. But it's not just him. Everyone involved in this needs to realize if this so called WWIII continues, none of the participants economic power is long for this world. After it's over, neutral nations, such as Tom or Jake will be the ones really able to flex their economic muscle.

Orders in by 8PM tonight kids. Pacific, Alaska, Texas, SRGL, go to Matt. Everything else to me.

I told Cliffe this yesterday, that a war with me would seriously hurt his economy and mine.
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| September 12, 2010, 12:38 pm
In my little place in the world, factories are producing TPC-7s and a few existing ones are being fitted for AA duties.
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| September 12, 2010, 12:48 pm
The USCA is cutting all further military spending. Ground vehicles are being refit to make use of M1 fuel cells, and munitions production is nearly non-existant.
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| September 12, 2010, 1:38 pm
Quoting Areetsa C


Speaking of space stations, does anyone know what happened to the ISS?

That's a bloody good question

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| September 12, 2010, 2:09 pm
The AMA is buying weapons and vehicles from an undisclosed source.
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| September 12, 2010, 2:10 pm
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Quoting John Moffatt
That's a bloody good question

Space Nazis attacked it.
>.>
<.<
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| September 12, 2010, 2:11 pm
Quoting John Dawn
Space Nazis attacked it.
>.>
<.<

Ahhhhh
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| September 12, 2010, 2:12 pm
Quoting -> avalella
I noticed that, however Cliffe only seems to be sending his air force over the USCA.

I have only helped you so far, I haven't openly declared war.
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| September 12, 2010, 3:44 pm
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Quoting Evan Melick
The ISS is only scheduled to be in operation until 2020 at the latest. So, I'd assume it has been de-orbited by now.

But in this timeline the US collapsed in 2012-2013, so it must still be up there.
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| September 12, 2010, 3:48 pm
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Where this group seems to like going...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4sc4Ftvu5Og
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| September 12, 2010, 3:50 pm
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Quoting -> avalella
Anyway, in the USCA, an expeditionary force of 35,000 Coalition infantry, 75 fighter aircraft, and 50 tanks are being transferred to Indian command.

Thank you most kindly sir! I shall endeavor to return them all safely.
Quoting Areetsa C
Best case, months there, months back.
Tons of equipment and supplies, and if you miss just one supply trip to your planned colony they'll all die off.

Yep, a whole host of possible scenarios could disrupt things: solar flares, drive failures, mutinies, giant elephants flying backward just under the speed of sound yelling "Whee! I won, I won!"...

Quoting Evan Melick
Orders in by 8PM tonight kids. Pacific, Alaska, Texas, SRGL, go to Matt. Everything else to me.

So, Africa to you? 'Cause it's SRGL, but not Pacific or American.
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| September 12, 2010, 5:10 pm
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Quoting Thomas N
Well, you can get the land, you just have to fight for it...

You didn't really think Ham or Will were just going to give in?

I was optimistic...
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| September 12, 2010, 5:12 pm
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Quoting Will G.
I have one thing I would like to say, while I was gone apparently Ham and I had our nations stolen and given to Nick, by Cliffe, and nobody, nobody cared.


So people should care about national-scale backstabbing, but people shouldn't care about using smallpox as bio-terrorism on a civilian population? By my book, no one here cares about either, therefore, they are legal moves.

Quoting John Dawn
Where this group seems to like going...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4sc4Ftvu5Og


No, more like this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qrTcHbBRXSU

I'm not going to say who is who, except this: Realism is the guy at the end with the arrow.
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| September 12, 2010, 5:23 pm
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i7gIpuIVE3k It is Garbage Day in America.
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| September 12, 2010, 5:32 pm
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In response to growing economic pressures, India is driving forward with plans to quickly re-open the Kolar Gold Fields in southwestern India. Optimistic forecasts anticipate an enormous $2.8 Billion annually for a good 15 years (at $28/gram). If digging is expanded, the numbers could jump up to $3 Billion annually. Combined with the oil rigs which are still under construction and the revenues from those sales, India is expected to be able to bounce back from the slump quickly. A good deal of the labor for these mines will be Chinese engineers and workers. They will be well paid and benefits will be high to keep them from being malcontents.

Attacks will continue to proceed in Africa, more out of self-defense than territorial conquest.

Source material: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kolar_Gold_Fields
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| September 12, 2010, 5:34 pm
I might be a little late with my battleplans tonight... My puppy dog has been stung by a wasp or something and he's not taking well to it(I think he's allergic to it or something) and its seriously bad :'(
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| September 12, 2010, 5:58 pm
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Quoting Evan Melick
Africa to me.

Oops, ok, I just sent you a message then that you can ignore now. Thank you.
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| September 12, 2010, 6:03 pm
Quoting Evan Melick
Don't worry, just get it to me ASAP, but I'm in bed around 11, so really, I need it before ten at the latest, *just for you*. Anyway, hope the dog feels better.

Ok, I send Matt my battleplans for Alaska right? Plus just to let ya know, my dog is doing better, we gave him a pill and he is now chewing on a bone, just like nothing had happened!
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| September 12, 2010, 7:40 pm
I'd like a more short to the point report, but I have the attention span of a 2 year old :D, so I can't speak for everybody.
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| September 12, 2010, 8:34 pm
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Quoting Matt Hacker

That about wraps it up. Tell me if you like my writing style, or if you guys want it more short and to the point.


Uh, Matt, you do know the Murus Wall was built by the PCU for use against SRGL invasions, right..?
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| September 12, 2010, 8:38 pm
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Quoting Awesome-o-saurus The Not-So-Great

Uh, Matt, you do know the Murus Wall was built by the PCU for use against SRGL invasions, right..?



D:

Then never mind >.<
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| September 12, 2010, 8:38 pm
Quoting Evan Melick
I'd like to just point out in my opinion, any use of starships ruins the fun of the group. Railgun satellites and all this nonsense is crossing the line enough.

I don't even see how rail gun satellites would work, seeing as the recoil would send the satellite flying.
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| September 12, 2010, 8:39 pm
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Two Things Matt.

Fort Knox is not the PCU's land, it's SRGL's.

Wisconsin is also the SRGL's and the Murus Wall is mine too. So I don't see how the SRGL blew a hole in it to just turn around and get into Wisconsin.
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| September 12, 2010, 8:40 pm
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Quoting Matt Hacker


D:

Then never mind >.<


Matt, I'm happy for you and Imma let you combat moderate, but Evan has the best fact-getting-straight ability of all time! OF ALL TIME!
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| September 12, 2010, 8:42 pm
And are we advancing in Alaska or are we just sitting there drinking hot chocolate while a few planes fly around?
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| September 12, 2010, 8:42 pm
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Quoting Jake H.
I don't even see how rail gun satellites would work, seeing as the recoil would send the satellite flying.

What recoil? Railguns don't have propellants within the munition. Electromagnetism is the key to lobbing the slugs.
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| September 12, 2010, 8:43 pm
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Quoting Jake H.
I don't even see how rail gun satellites would work, seeing as the recoil would send the satellite flying.
I added a compensator for when a shot is fired, the equal amount of weight goes the opposite direction, cancelling the other out. Its not perfect but extra maneuvering thrusters help.

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| September 12, 2010, 8:44 pm
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Quoting Nick Shelton
Two Things Matt.

Fort Knox is not the PCU's land, it's SRGL's.

Wisconsin is also the SRGL's and the Murus Wall is mine too. So I don't see how the SRGL blew a hole in it to just turn around and get into Wisconsin.


To everyone, sorry I failed so hard, but I really dont know who owns what, as I was not here. Anyway, tweaks to the report are being made, and it will be back up with 100% accurate facts in no time. Geez, I wished people would tell me these things BEFOREHAND!

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| September 12, 2010, 8:44 pm
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Quoting John Moffatt
And are we advancing in Alaska or are we just sitting there drinking hot chocolate while a few planes fly around?


I recieved ZERO FMs about Alaska until after the report was made (due time was 8:00, only FM came in at 8:35) so yeah. Nothing happened.

Today war spread like a plague throughout the North American Continent.

Republic of Texas Vs. Pacific Union

Today, at 0300 hours, the Pacific Union gathered large numbers of ground forces from the Oklahoman and Mexican borders with Texas. Some 25,000 troops gathered in Ardmore, Oklahoma, while 4,000 gathered along the Mexican border. Another 3,000 troops swung in through the Gulf for an amphibious invasion. Pre attack, reports from Texan citizens of large amounts of machinery and aircraft noise began streaming in. Sending in several M36 drones, the Texans were able to ascertain the point of attack, but chose not to attack preemptively, instead waiting for the the forces in the nearby tunnel network to fortify. This was an almost fatal move, as PCU B52s rolled along the Oklahoma-Texas border with bunker busters with intent to deal with such tunnels. To hide themselves from Wild Weasel missions, Texan air-search radars were turned off at the time the 10 B-52s managed to take out an infantry tunnel to the East of the focal point of the attack. By now fully alerted, two airfields worth of MFJ-36 Bobcat interceptors launched from their hidden positions, and using their greatest asset, speed, launched extremely long range missiles at the B52s. Five were downed, and another so badly damaged that the crews had to turn around. The 10 MAF-1 fighters closed on the MFJ-36s and destroyed 10 out of 16, due to superior maneuverability.

The ground battle began at 0600 as the 25,000 mechanized infantrymen and tanks rolled across the Texan border without the planned bomber strike. The bridges that they were hoping to cross were blown the second PCU forces began using them, but the overall losses were light. The PCU had planned for that eventuality, and has constructed numerous pontoon bridges leading into Texas, all with heavy air and SAM cover. The forces met light resistance for about five miles, but then were viciously flanked by tanks and infantrymen emerging from their tunnels- on the Oklahoman side of the border. The air battle was a mess overall, and while the MAF-1s could win in a one on one dogfight, the battle control for the Texans was better, allowing their fighters to dash in to gaps in the air cover and attack the PCU infantrymen. The battle in the North is a bloody stalemate, and the Texan morale is sky-high, allowing for nearly inhuman battle performance, even in the face of murderous artillery barrages.

The Mexican front forces attacked some hours later, at 1500, allowing for the 4,000 troops to strike. Unfortunately, this small force immediately ran into Texan armor and air cover, allowing a small victory for the Texans.

The PCU attack also came from the sea. Escort carriers and amphibious landing ships invaded the Texan coast farther to the north of Corpus Christi than expected, and has made quick gains. A beachhead has been established, and local airports and airstrips are having equipment flown in to help PCU air power be stationed there. Texan National Guard units have been fighting with whatever they have, but with all air power diverted to the Oklahoman and Mexican borders, they are not putting up much of a fight.

The decisive battles will likely take place shortly in the future.


Pacific Union vs. Socialist Republic of the Great Lakes.

The PCU also had its sight on the SRGL, and gathered a powerful tank and infantry force of 5,000 to assault Grantsburg, WI. At 0700 a ferocious artillery barrage began lashing from positions behind Murus wall, as the heavy armor began rolling with limited tactical air support, due to a large and mostly one sided engagement of the SRGL's potent F-22 collections verus 10 MAF-1s. The MAF-1 performed rather poorly in this front, as the radar used was not capable of defeating the stealth.

SRGL heavy armor engaged the PCU armor, and it was one of the most ferocious tank battles since the Gulf War. The PCU armor, while powerful, was completely outnumbered by tanks of equal or superior quality. The Murus wall provided PCU troops with ample cover for their advance, and shielded artillery well and prevented any SRGL counterattack.

B-52s rumbled over Mackinac Island, and with CAP flights not in the area, dealt a fearsome blow to the defenders and assets on the island, as the bunker busters decimated even the most hardened structures. A large B52 raid en route to Detroit was intercepted by the 15 F-22s defending Detroit, and heavy casualties were dealt. However, the F-22s were predicted to be in the area, so the second echelon of B52s evaded the F-22s (which were by now out of ammunition), and engaged Detroit. The heavy bombers destroyed key assets like industrial parks, but were driven off when heavy AAA and SAM fire forced them to turn West.

The SRGL was not totally on the defensive today. A small infantry force appeared from Fort Knox, and threw the enemy nearby off guard. The PCU forces followed a retreating SRGL company, when the light infantry and armor was engaged by 5 A-10Cs and 3 Apaches, completing the ambush. While the blow was not crippling to the PCU in the area, if a heavier strike is launched soon, the SRGL might make a push from Fort Knox, and divert PCU forces to the area.

Alaskan Campaign.

Nothing much happened today. Minor skirmishes occurred, and a few aircraft from both coalitions were shot down. Fleets were not engaged today, and submarines were frustrated by poor weather negating their sonar.

Hopefully error proof now >.>
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| September 12, 2010, 8:46 pm
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Quoting Matt Hacker

To everyone, sorry I failed so hard, but I really dont know who owns what, as I was not here. Anyway, tweaks to the report are being made, and it will be back up with 100% accurate facts in no time. Geez, I wished people would tell me these things BEFOREHAND!


I for one, assumed that since you were a CM, you knew what was going on.

Here are two resources- the map: http://www.flickr.com/photos/legosim/4729022960/in/faves-thenotsogreat/

And the list of people on the map: http://www.mocpages.com/group.php/11443 (scroll down to description)

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| September 12, 2010, 8:49 pm
Quoting Dr. Spontaneous
What recoil? Railguns don't have propellants within the munition. Electromagnetism is the key to lobbing the slugs.

Newton's third law disagrees.
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| September 12, 2010, 8:49 pm
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Quoting Awesome-o-saurus The Not-So-Great

I for one, assumed that since you were a CM, you knew what was going on.

Here are two resources- the map: http://www.flickr.com/photos/legosim/4729022960/in/faves-thenotsogreat/

And the list of people on the map: http://www.mocpages.com/group.php/11443 (scroll down to description)


I do know most of the current politics, but when the Murus wall was made, I was not here, and due to the context in the FMs I assumed that it was SRGL. Next time I will just FM Evan or Erik before posting to make sure all the facts are right.

I hope that there are no hard feelings, and I will improve!
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| September 12, 2010, 8:51 pm
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Quoting Evan Melick
Anyway, without the major part of the funding for the ISS coming from NASA, and with everyone loving to split Russia up, the collapse of the RSA, the ISS will probably collapse into an uncontrolled orbit and eventual destruction even sooner.


So, hundreds of thousands of years instead of millions?

Quoting Admiral A.C. 'Jake' Weagle
Plus just to let ya know, my dog is doing better, we gave him a pill and he is now chewing on a bone, just like nothing had happened!


Yeah, well, I'd be careful if I were you. I had a cat over the last two or three years, and a couple months ago he seemed to be on his last legs; staggering, wheezing, etc. He went to the vets, they said he probably wouldn't live out the night, and guess what? He did. In fact, he was fine for at least a week. Then he had a relapse, and expired shortly after the vet examined him.
A whole week he was completely, totally fine, and then he started coughing and carrying on and that was the end of him.

So yeah, just be aware this 'cure' might be temporary.
Although it sounds like your dog's just allergic to bees.

Quoting Jake H.
Newton's third law disagrees.


Magnetic weapons have minimal recoil, easily countered by station keeping thrusters.

In comparison to a conventional cannon, they have next to no recoil.
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| September 12, 2010, 8:52 pm
Quoting Jake H.
Newton's third law disagrees.

I second that.

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| September 12, 2010, 8:54 pm
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No hard feelings, I have heavy defenses along the border as well, only slightly less due to the fact I have no 280+ MM artillery.(Which was outdated in the 50's, btw)
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| September 12, 2010, 8:58 pm
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Quoting Evan Melick

So I do send them to you, I was confuse as that I was fighting the SRGL so I sent plans to Matt.
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| September 12, 2010, 9:01 pm
Algeria has continued to improve relations with B. Faso and has even gone so far as to give it 5 of it's new Savannah APC's.
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| September 12, 2010, 9:02 pm
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Quoting John Dawn
So I do send them to you, I was confuse as that I was fighting the SRGL so I sent plans to Matt.

*sigh*, oh well.
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| September 12, 2010, 9:06 pm
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Quoting Evan Melick

Lastly, while on patrol today, the Egyptian vessel Talon of Horus, and it's group of vessels came under attack. PCU missile sites based in Roman Africa had launched a huge number of cruise missiles early this morning. Of the thirty-eight launched, twenty-two where shot down over Libya, and seven where killed by the close in air defense systems on the flotilla's ships. However, nine missiles slammed into the hull and superstructure of the Talon of Horus, totally collapsing the bridge area, and putting numerous hulls below the waterline. No other vessels where hit. At 16:56 EST today, the last bits of the Horus slipped under the seas of the Mediterranean. However, cruise missiles are not cheap, and the thirty-eight units used in the attack accounted for a good majority of the missiles able to be used in the region.


YOU CAN RUN AND TELL THAT, LASER SHIP.

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| September 12, 2010, 9:06 pm
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Quoting John Dawn
So I do send them to you, I was confuse as that I was fighting the SRGL so I sent plans to Matt.

If you're fighting in America, report to Matt.

If you're fighting in Africa, report to Evan.
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| September 12, 2010, 9:13 pm
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Quoting Dr. Spontaneous
If you're fighting in America, report to Matt.

If you're fighting in Africa, report to Evan.

Thanks, If I had known sooner half of my battle plans would have worked, but oh well, tomorrow is a new day to make the SRGL pay in blood. :)
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| September 12, 2010, 9:15 pm
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Guys, this is the First and Last time I am writing a combat report based off of late FMs.

Late this evening, Alaska heated up once more. Mongolian forces secured a landing zone for future troops in Seward, and the 5,000 men began cautiously moving forward.

Osea was was on the attack too. Sonar performance increased somewhat now, leading Osean submarines to locate the main carrier groups threatening the Osean shores.

Small unmanned submarines with explosive charges managed to destroy a propeller on one of the carriers. Despite this, it is still in the area. A follow up attack by a few squadrons of various C-F/A22s attacked the carrier, dealing more severe damage, but taking heavy losses themselves. Submarine launched anti shipping missiles failed to penetrate the comprehensive protection systems.

Osean Abrams supported by F/A 18s started making their way to the PCU's beachhead. Losses for both sides have been intense during this counterattack.


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| September 12, 2010, 9:16 pm
Contrary to an earlier statement, a very good days worth of M1 sales have prompted the USCA to buy 10 more F1's from the PCU.
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| September 12, 2010, 9:50 pm
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Quoting -> avalella
Contrary to an earlier statement, a very good days worth of M1 sales have prompted the USCA to buy 10 more F1's from the PCU.

You haven't bought anything from us? What are you talking about Willis?!
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| September 12, 2010, 9:53 pm
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Quoting Evan Melick
The two B-1 bombers in Nigeria, escorted by a number of plans are beginning a flight to Libya, aiming on plastering airfields. They had some success, knocking out fuel supplies in the Libyan desert, but at the loss of one F-1 escort plane to a patrol of Egyptian fighters.

What? Libya? When did that happen? I never would risk my most expensive bombers over Prusso-Egypt, maybe I didn't specify. Plastering airfields was the plan, but over the Ivory Coast, not Libya. Can I have my plane and pilot back now? =D
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| September 13, 2010, 12:16 pm
Quoting Ultramarine .
What? Libya? When did that happen? I never would risk my most expensive bombers unless over Prusso-Egypt, maybe I didn't specify. Plastering airfields was the plan, but over the Ivory Coast, not Libya. Can I have my plane and pilot back now? =D

Wait, if your getting ur plane back, I want my escorts back too!
Quoting Nick Shelton
You haven't bought anything from us? What are you talking about Willis?!

My bad, I meant Rome. Sorry for the confusion.
In related news, due to the fact that combat with Egypt is primarily air centered, a team of engineers from the African Alliance are beginning development of the F2 Hummingbird. The F2 will be a smaller, more maneuverable fighter. It will be a single pilot design, and to save space it will not carry any air-dropped ordnance. 2 new machine guns are also being designed to suit the space restraints.
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| September 13, 2010, 4:21 pm
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Quoting Evan Melick
Sure. >.> I believe I got you and Nigeria confused, and only fixed the latter mistake.

That's alright, I'd be sorta miffed if I lost a B-1, but otherwise I'm good.
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| September 13, 2010, 6:12 pm
Frigate design is being put on hold to accommodate other economic demands. The USCA is now accepting preorders for the F2. They will be manufactured France, and flown over to AA airfields individually as they are completed. We expect the first planes to arrive on Wednesday, with the first squadron of 10 completed by Friday.
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| September 13, 2010, 7:34 pm
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Due to an overwhelmingly busy schedule, I might not be able to finish the North American combat report tonight, or if I can, all entries are due by 10pm, when I next become available.
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| September 13, 2010, 7:40 pm
Quoting Evan Melick


Oh sure, bother me about having my 10 thousand tanks. But, not a peep when Brendan anounces he's building or adding to a total of 12 carriers.

He's Japan, where does Japan get those kind of resources.

What is this, I don't even...
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| September 13, 2010, 8:08 pm
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Quoting Evan Melick
Because I'm a hater. And haters hate.

He's building 12 carriers? First I've heard of it. Unless I missed it while skimming the ICF.

As I've vainly tried to clarify in the past, BUILDING a certain number of X is completely different than HAVING that number of X. It could take a hundred years, but he's still building them...
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| September 13, 2010, 8:52 pm
Quoting Brendan Dore
Fine, 5 carriers. Happy?

As long as 4 go to me :)
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| September 13, 2010, 9:10 pm
Quoting -> avalella
As long as 4 go to me :)

I like your logic.
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| September 13, 2010, 9:16 pm
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Got my FM, right Evan? Totally forgot, seeing Matt's post I thought I didn't have to send in anything at all tonight. My bad.
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| September 13, 2010, 9:25 pm
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Where is Cliffe, anyway? Nick said he saw activity on Flickr, but I haven't seen the inevitable /rage comment about the sinking of his prize ship.
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| September 13, 2010, 10:22 pm
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Hang on guys, I'll do it tonight, but dont expect a writing masterpiece compared to last night, it will be much shorter and concise.
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| September 13, 2010, 10:25 pm
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Quoting Thomas N
Actually, Talon of Horus (http://www.flickr.com/photos/34643041@N07/4683500196/) = Destroyer. Not exactly a prize ship.


Well then. Where's Cliffe?
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| September 13, 2010, 10:43 pm
I think I messed up somehow.

I sent a bunch of my combat maneuvers for Africa to Matt. I suppose I was supposed to send them to Evan.

What to do now, I don't know. Evan, do you want to do a kind of re-post or something, or do you want Matt to just handle it now that he's got it?
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| September 13, 2010, 10:49 pm
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Quoting Matt Hacker
Hang on guys, I'll do it tonight, but dont expect a writing masterpiece compared to last night, it will be much shorter and concise.


Can't it wait? I thought there were no reports tonight, from what you said.
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| September 13, 2010, 10:53 pm
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Quoting Ham N' Biscuits

Can't it wait? I thought there were no reports tonight, from what you said.


I do not know what just happened, literally I lost a half an hour of combat report writing because Mocpages gave me an error...

Highlights! I HAD written a masterpiece but it refused to go through, and it gave me an error, sooooo

Texans ICBMed PCU staging areas in Oklahoma and Texas, halting PCU advance.

Corpus Christi Milita groups are mobilized

Texas invaded New Mexico and is trying to win the hearts and minds of the civilians

Texans selling salvaged PCU equipment to Mexican druglords hoping to incite a rebellion.

PCU strike down I-35 obliterated by B2B carpet bombing.

PCU attack at Fort Knox a huge success, large amounts of armor is massing there.

Extremely Heavy artillery barrage and air bombardment has destroyed much of the SRGL's front line positions, and they are on the verge of collapse.

Hyperfalcons plans stolen in Canada by operatives from a currently unknown source. No evidence was left behind of their identities due to massive explosions.

Also, PCU bombers annihilated the town of Gainsville Texas.

Im really depressed that I lost all of that juicy combat report, but that is what happened in a nutshell. If I missed anything in this brief summary (which I included in the lost report), just tell it and I will say the results of it.
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| September 13, 2010, 11:03 pm
Quoting Matt Hacker

I do not know what just happened, literally I lost a half an hour of combat report writing because Mocpages gave me an error...

Highlights! I HAD written a masterpiece but it refused to go through, and it gave me an error, sooooo

Texans ICBMed PCU staging areas in Oklahoma and Texas, halting PCU advance.

Corpus Christi Milita groups are mobilized

Texas invaded New Mexico and is trying to win the hearts and minds of the civilians

Texans selling salvaged PCU equipment to Mexican druglords hoping to incite a rebellion.

PCU strike down I-35 obliterated by B2B carpet bombing.

PCU attack at Fort Knox a huge success, large amounts of armor is massing there.

Extremely Heavy artillery barrage and air bombardment has destroyed much of the SRGL's front line positions, and they are on the verge of collapse.

Hyperfalcons plans stolen in Canada by operatives from a currently unknown source. No evidence was left behind of their identities due to massive explosions.

Im really depressed that I lost all of that juicy combat report, but that is what happened in a nutshell. If I missed anything in this brief summary (which I included in the lost report), just tell it and I will say the results of it.

My missile ships, my B2-Bs and the tankers.
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| September 13, 2010, 11:05 pm
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I lol'd because Texas didn't include ICBMs in there statistics.
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| September 13, 2010, 11:07 pm
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Quoting Matt Hacker



What I'm wondering here is, where did Texas get the raw materials for all these things in so little time?

<.<

And more importantly, when did they get them?
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| September 13, 2010, 11:08 pm
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Quoting Will G.
My missile ships, my B2-Bs and the tankers.


After blowing up the I-35 advance, the two remaining B2Bs with payload continued on to Oklahoma, destroying even more PCU forces. However, one was lost when PCU AA got a chance visual on the flying wing and shot it down.

The troops in the tankers delayed the PCU beachhead forces long enough for the ICBMs to do maximum damage.

The missile boats didnt do their job as intended, and most of the men were killed, however, they did cripple a frigate.
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| September 13, 2010, 11:08 pm
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Quoting Awesome-o-saurus The Not-So-Great

What I'm wondering here is, where did Texas get the raw materials for all these things in so little time?

<.<


And more importantly, when did they get them?


I look at the combat plans sent to me, and he has no remaining ICBMs by his own admission. I forgot to mention i the brief summary that most Texan defenders had to pull back due to damaged equipment and lost men, especially along the Texan/ Oklahoman border.

And I dont know the where, I just saw that he had them on his Flickr, though I do trim down improbable statistics (for instance yesterday Weagle told me to sortie nearly 800 C-F/A 22s, but I trimmed that down alot)

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| September 13, 2010, 11:10 pm
Time for FTSA to get involved in this juicy war.

So 150,000 troops are going to be landed in Galveston courtesy of an assault force of 245 Landing Ships and 18 frigates, along with 5 aircraft carriers and 24 submarines. The 150K will stage at the beachhead already captured by the PCU, and then they will move up the coast line to the Louisiana border and capture a staging area at the edge of PE lands. They will be supported by 90 F/A-38s, 88 F-37s, 44 MAB-2s, 160 UH-58s, 110 AH-72s, 160 tanks, and 264 lighter ground vehicles of various types, including IFVs and infantry movers. They will all stage at the beachhead and the helis will fly close support for the troops, along with the tanks and ground vehicles.

If a combat mod would kindly have a look at this, it'd be muchly appreciated.
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| September 14, 2010, 12:21 am
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Quoting Matt Hacker
Hyperfalcons plans stolen in Canada by operatives from a currently unknown source. No evidence was left behind of their identities due to massive explosions.


Sounds like Voron to me.
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| September 14, 2010, 12:45 am
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Tech, er, plan stealing from other nations?

This is getting a lot like Civilization IV...
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| September 14, 2010, 1:58 am
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Quoting Areetsa C
Quoting Matt Hacker
Hyperfalcons plans stolen in Canada by operatives from a currently unknown source. No evidence was left behind of their identities due to massive explosions.


Sounds like Voron to me.

You can't prove that.
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| September 14, 2010, 6:01 am
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Quoting John Dawn
You can't prove that.


You know as well as I do that whoever did this is going to be in for big trouble as soon as Cliffe decides to retaliate for this theft of his intellectual property.

Think "MP3 copying" but with high explosives instead of lawsuits.
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| September 14, 2010, 6:27 am
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Quoting Areetsa C

You know as well as I do that whoever did this is going to be in for big trouble as soon as Cliffe decides to retaliate for this theft of his intellectual property.

Think "MP3 copying" but with high explosives instead of lawsuits.
yeah, I wouldn't want to be them.

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| September 14, 2010, 6:34 am
Quoting Thomas N
Actually, Talon of Horus (http://www.flickr.com/photos/34643041@N07/4683500196/) = Destroyer. Not exactly a prize ship.

Yeah but laser destroyer destroyed by MISSILES.
That would make anyone mad.
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| September 14, 2010, 8:54 am
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Devlopment of the F35P is nearly complete, as kits to convert the old C100 GPMRVs to greatly improved C106s are being made to drasticly upgrade its large small vehicle fleet.

Despite a request from the USCA to train its pilots, we have declined this request in an effort not to favor any one country. However, we will continue providing technical support for the vehcicles already sold to the USCA.


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| September 14, 2010, 9:29 am
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Quoting Matt Hacker
Despite a request from the USCA to train its pilots, we have declined this request in an effort not to favor any one countries.

India will gladly enroll them in their Pilot's school for the named price. Transport included.
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| September 14, 2010, 11:39 am
The USCA would like to send a veteran F1P pilot to train in India with the first F2 model, for 2 million Oro. Though the systems are very similar, this pilot will need to be able to quickly retrain the rest of his squadron.
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| September 14, 2010, 4:15 pm
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Quoting -> avalella
. . . for 2 million Oro.

Although I understand you're simply using an equatable currency standard, I must ask you to refrain from marketing the Oro granted you're economy isn't integrated to utilize the ESO. To an untrained eye, it would seem the ESO is your bill [which looks bad on Europe] rather than whatever system you use.
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| September 14, 2010, 4:22 pm
Quoting Dr. Spontaneous
Quoting -> avalella
. . . for 2 million Oro.

Although I understand you're simply using an equatable currency standard, I must ask you to refrain from marketing the Oro granted you're economy isn't integrated to utilize the ESO. To an untrained eye, it would seem the ESO is your bill [which looks bad on Europe] rather than whatever system you use.

I completely understand what you are saying, however since the majority of my fuel cell sales (the main factor supporting my economy)
have been in Europe, I have eccess ammounts of Oros. Unless you can give me the current exchange rate, I won't be able to buy anything outside of Europe.
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| September 14, 2010, 4:28 pm
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Quoting -> avalella
I completely understand what you are saying, however since the majority of my fuel cell sales (the main factor supporting my economy)
have been in Europe, I have eccess ammounts of Oros. Unless you can give me the current exchange rate, I won't be able to buy anything outside of Europe.

I don't have an exchange rant granted I know naught of your economy. As it stands the ESO is roughly 1:1 with the USD.
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| September 14, 2010, 4:30 pm
Quoting Dr. Spontaneous
I don't have an exchange rant granted I know naught of your economy. As it stands the ESO is roughly 1:1 with the USD.

Then if the Oro is the equivilant to the Euro, it then 1 ESO would be equivilant to .846368 Oro. 2 million Oro should be around 2859485.26 ESO. We are giving India 2859485.26 ESO to train our pilot.
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| September 14, 2010, 4:40 pm
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Quoting -> avalella
Then if the Oro is the equivilant to the Euro, it then 1 ESO would be equivilant to .846368 Oro. 2 million Oro should be around 2859485.26 ESO. We are giving India 2859485.26 ESO to train our pilot.

The European Standard Oro is the Oro . . . I don't see how one Oro equates to .85 of itself.
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| September 14, 2010, 4:41 pm
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As France concludes the upgrading of its current MRAP fleet, the focus now has been set on integrated APS and future applique armor. The idea is simply to increase vehicle survivability; and in turn, increase the trust and morale of the men. We're looking at roughly a two month time-frame for at least 20-33% of the selected vehicles to be upgraded.

Aside from that, the ALDS testing continues for another two days. As it stands, minor tweaking is in order. Small fractures have been noticed on some of the innards [mostly pressurized pipes], which will be fixed on the vehicles following ensuite. The second aircraft is expected by the end of next week, or the middle of the week following, and will serve as a domestic defense asset. The latter three will take a bit more time.

Also, the ADCC is going a helicopter refit. Several domestic companies have been contacted to compete with the winning design being the new heliborne standard. A few of the contract highlights for the vehicle include, but are not limited to: integrated/upgraded electronic countermeasures; upgraded communications suite [from older designs, that is]; a squad-based capacity or greater; Class III electronic protection; and the ability to easily retrofit the airframe.
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| September 14, 2010, 5:54 pm
The Mongolian government has begun simulating the results of the coil gun fires before the test
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| September 14, 2010, 6:19 pm
Quoting Dr. Spontaneous
The European Standard Oro is the Oro . . . I don't see how one Oro equates to .85 of itself.

I never said it did. I said that the value of the training is 2 million or 2859485.26 ESO. We are paying in 2859485.26 ESO... My currency is the ESO.
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| September 14, 2010, 7:13 pm
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Quoting -> avalella
I never said it did. I said that the value of the training is 2 million or 2859485.26 ESO. We are paying in 2859485.26 ESO... My currency is the ESO.

That makes no sense. The European Standard Oro is for Europe and if one were to be tacked in, it would require the consensus of all members.
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| September 14, 2010, 7:15 pm
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The Roman Empire switched from electronic currency some time ago. We don't trust money based purely on credit or whatever, so we use paper and metal bills/coins backed by actual material wealth. This includes the re-introduction of gold currency. Yes, it's a step backwards, but we're prepared in case of the worst. When electronic communication fails, we have a postal service ready. When oil fails, we have guys on horses. When horses fail, we're done for. But horses rarely fail.

We're like a reverse Prusso-Egypt. Instead of looking into the future with inspiration from the past, we look into the past while drawing inspiration from the future. And then we go to the future while holding fully onto the past. You know what they say, if you're going to fail, fail spectacularly.

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| September 14, 2010, 7:16 pm
Quoting Awesome-o-saurus The Not-So-Great
The Roman Empire switched from electronic currency some time ago. We don't trust money based purely on credit or whatever, so we use paper and metal bills/coins backed by actual material wealth. This includes the re-introduction of gold currency. Yes, it's a step backwards, but we're prepared in case of the worst. When electronic communication fails, we have a postal service ready. When oil fails, we have guys on horses. When horses fail, we're done for. But horses rarely fail.

We're like a reverse Prusso-Egypt. Instead of looking into the future with inspiration from the past, we look into the past while drawing inspiration from the future. And then we go to the future while holding fully onto the past. You know what they say, if you're going to fail, fail spectacularly.

When horses fail, you walk.

Anywho, funny you mention electronic currency. We also have a backup mint, but it's covered in cobwebs :-P

And the way I see it, failing to trust in newfangled technology must result from...

...CONSERVATISM!!!! MY MORTAL NEMESIS!

(le gasp)
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| September 14, 2010, 7:30 pm
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Quoting Kaiser Pharaoh Cliffe
...CONSERVATISM!!!! MY MORTAL NEMESIS!

That explains our friction.

Anyhow, the ESO is a plastic-pressed bill similar to that of modern Australia. Difficult to replicate in most cases and is able to retain its value that way; along with a quasi-commodity system. Of course electronic systems are available, but only upon consumer request with their accredited bank and the like. Just throwing that out there seeing as though it's bandwagon time.
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| September 14, 2010, 7:38 pm
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Quoting Kaiser Pharaoh Cliffe
When horses fail, you walk.

Anywho, funny you mention electronic currency. We also have a backup mint, but it's covered in cobwebs :-P

And the way I see it, failing to trust in newfangled technology must result from...

...CONSERVATISM!!!! MY MORTAL NEMESIS!

(le gasp)


Walking is too slow. Maybe I can breed a new strain of Humans who are super runners. Or hire Kenyans.

And yes, conservatism. This is an absolute monarchy after all. To he|| with democracy!

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| September 14, 2010, 7:51 pm
Quoting Dr. Spontaneous
That explains our friction.

Anyhow, the ESO is a plastic-pressed bill similar to that of modern Australia. Difficult to replicate in most cases and is able to retain its value that way; along with a quasi-commodity system. Of course electronic systems are available, but only upon consumer request with their accredited bank and the like. Just throwing that out there seeing as though it's bandwagon time.

Wow.

Plastic bills.

That's pretty awesome, I must admit. And I'm glad to hear electronic currency is at least out on the market... but I h@te private banks. In Prusso-Egypt, all private banks, as well as private insurance firms and private news organizations, are to be strictly nonprofit by law, and are watched like a paranoid socialist hawk. Which sounds a lot like a description of myself.
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| September 14, 2010, 7:51 pm
Quoting Awesome-o-saurus The Not-So-Great

And yes, conservatism. This is an absolute monarchy after all. To he|| with democracy!

Well, in Prusso-Egypt, most of our states are Kingdoms... although the German Empire is a constitutional monarchy.

And I'm the emperor, yo.

We consider monarchy to be such a radical choice of political system by now that we consider it liberal, and indirect democracy to be conservative.

And here's a fancy trick- to say heII, simply use two capital i's. They look just the same. Such as the example you see above.

:-P
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| September 14, 2010, 7:56 pm
Quoting Brendan Dore
Private sector is cooler, foo.

When it comes to any kind of resource industry or essential service industry, The individual is not to be trusted worth ha' penny.

However, German capitalism is just plain cool. Corporations like Krupp, Siemens, Henschel, BMW, Lippisch, Porsche, Volkswagen and others are totally awesome. So we generally let capitalism do its thing in ze fatherland; however a large portion federal government's time is spent just on watching over German capitalism- the brunt of so many political jokes in the Imperial Federation.
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| September 14, 2010, 8:31 pm
This lack of group activity disturbs me...

Especially with frakking WWIII going on.
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| September 14, 2010, 8:35 pm
Quoting Kaiser Pharaoh Cliffe
When it comes to any kind of resource industry or essential service industry, The individual is not to be trusted worth ha' penny.


Who runs the government group o' people, who runs a company group o' people. The argument can go both ways, but the fact remains, humans are sinful by nature and not to be trusted.
That's why I use cyborgs >.>
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| September 14, 2010, 8:35 pm
The Mongolian military has begun a motion to modernize it's military forces. This is a very long term project, but the 2nd batch of UAV's is being loaded up, and the MEDVEDs from Alenia have been refurbished to contain up to 50% more hurt per square inch, whilst 50 percent of Hun LAVs are scheduled to be upgraded to the Big-Badda-Boom model with 25% more squish per minute. The Solar farm project has reached the 10 percent mark in it's completion scale. Also, the coil guns are to be moved to the Eastern coast of Russia so as not to endanger anyone when they're fired.
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| September 14, 2010, 8:48 pm
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Quoting Kaiser Pharaoh Cliffe
And the way I see it, failing to trust in newfangled technology must result from...

...CONSERVATISM!!!! MY MORTAL NEMESIS!

(le gasp)

I love technology, what are you talking about?

Quoting Kaiser Pharaoh Cliffe
When it comes to any kind of resource industry or essential service industry, The individual is not to be trusted worth ha' penny.

Yeah, because as we all know, the government just does sooo much better with money than we do; not. I'm a Free Market man myself, go ahead, tell me freedom doesn't work...
Quoting -> avalella
I never said it did. I said that the value of the training is 2 million or 2859485.26 ESO. We are paying in 2859485.26 ESO... My currency is the ESO.

Oh, for heaven's sake, just convert it to dollars already so we can get it worked out. India switched over to that years ago (since most of our jobs were in the accounting offices charging people for all there tech support calls, it just made sense).
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| September 14, 2010, 8:50 pm
Quoting Jake H.
humans are sinful by nature and not to be trusted.

And that kiddies is what happens when you go to a school for three years that was started off by the IPC church.
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| September 14, 2010, 8:50 pm
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Quoting Brendan Dore
So 1 AUD=1 Spontaneous? lolwut?

I come by the dozen.
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| September 14, 2010, 9:03 pm
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India's damaged carrier has been repaired and put back into action thanks to the amazing efforts of the damage control teams. Thankfully, the deck was only damaged superficially, and after some jerry-rigging, is all ready to launch again.

Operation Eagle, the invasion of the SRGL is being planned and should be executed with the arrival of the eastern fleet which has just rounded the Cape of Good Hope, escorted by S. African ships all the way. They should be in position in the next 3-4 days. However, if something should happen to this eastern fleet (just off the tip of South Africa), plans might be critically delayed.

Moral is high in India, victory is expected a week after the September 17 invasion.
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| September 14, 2010, 9:18 pm
The test firing of the Coil guns has been temporarily postponed from the original date as they are now being moved to the Siberian coast, despite the numbers the sims gave us. We'd rather hit as close to the middle of the pacific as possible
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| September 14, 2010, 9:47 pm
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With the majority of southern Moldova secured, Bohemian forces can begin advancing north towards the capital of Kishinev. Coalition forces in the north have also begun their advance southward, creating what is basically a large pincer movement. Paratroopers with supporting light armor will be dropped on the capital in the coming hours. Bohemia hopes to secure Moldova within the next few days and allow the coalition forces to return to their respective countries.

Bohemia would like to extend the offer of the rights of production for the LAV, MQ-11 UAV, and the new MGS, when it becomes available, to it's Finnish allies in the north. These vehicles are also available for purchase, so that they can be put into immediate service. One of each model can be sent to Finland for testing/basis of decision, if it be their wish.
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| September 14, 2010, 10:16 pm
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Quoting Shk Ad Aw

Bohemia would like to extend the offer of the rights of production for the LAV, MQ-11 UAV, and the new MGS, when it becomes available, to it's Finnish allies in the north. These vehicles are also available for purchase, so that they can be put into immediate service. One of each model can be sent to Finland for testing/basis of decision, if it be their wish.


With open arms Finland accepts this offer. We are thankful for these rights.

Anyway, tonight's combat report is cooking right now. Just hold your horses.
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| September 14, 2010, 10:20 pm
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Alaskan Campaign

Small skirmishes persisted for another day, as no nation devoted new forces to fight, and both sides are being conservative in their troop movements. That being said, Mongolia has announced that the troops which have cleared great areas in Alaska are returning to their beachhead in Seaward, to be loaded on Siberian transports, and to head back to Mongoila.

SRGL/ PCU Campaign

This morning, the Floridan assets of the PCU Navy were sent to Virginia, and launched cruise missiles at Newport News. These missiles wrecked shipyards, but did not affect too many troops. Not known to the PCU, yesterday the SRGL navy had sortied 3 Mackinac class destroyers as well as 2 Virginia class subs to defend Newport news. The PCU attempted an amphibious invasion of the area, but the submarines and destroyers engaged them. In a ferocious naval battle, two Mackinac classes were lost, but at the cost of the heavy armor transports, as well as an amphibious assault ship, resulting in the loss of 1/4 of the invasion force. Nonetheless, PCU air superiority over Newport News allowed them to establish a beachhead in the city, while their Navy is providing heavy fire support.

The area around the Murus wall is being continually pouned by PCU artillery and aircraft. If retreat is not ordered soon, the SRGL will simply be blown to bits.

Texas campaign

Today things went down the pipe for Texan defenders. The tankers that were harassing the PCU ships were boarded by SEALs, and while casualties for both forces were heavy, the SEAL's superior training allowed them to prevail. Lack of cohesive bombing strikes gave the PCU a a little
breathing room, and HAT-1s with supporting infantry moved forward, with heavy air support from both fighters and bombers. These air assets covered the PCU forces into Gainseville. Heavy AA Fire forced whatever meager CAS the Texans could offer into scrap metal. The city is still smoldering from yesterday's bombings, but it could still be a vital area for the PCU.

15 B52s with heavy fighter cover bombed San Angelo and bombed the city until it was merely rubble. Again, ineffective Texas situation monitoring meant that the bombers were only hit until AFTER the raid, destroying 2 of the behemoths. The Texan fighters suffered greatly however.

The PCU has followed suit in using ICBMs, this time on the Texan troops in New Mexico. While half of the troops lived, PCU troops which had rushed from Portland reinforced the New Mexico National Guard. These troops will need orders soon if they are not to be cut off and destroyed.

In Mexico, PCU AC-130s destroyed the Texan agents selling the PCU equipment, and they also managed to destroy some of the stolen vehicles. The fighter escort found no enemy aircraft, and used their cannon to strafe all that was left.

However, things just got a lot worse for Texas. The FTSA has officially entered the war as an ally of the PCU, and they have sent large amounts of equipment to support their advance. They arrived in Galveston, and quickly dealt with the local militia. in total, 150,000 troops have landed, and are staging at the main PCU beachhead. To quote Rocky himself,

"150,000 troops are going to be landed in Galveston courtesy of an assault force of 245 Landing Ships and 18 frigates, along with 5 aircraft carriers and 24 submarines. The 150K will stage at the beachhead already captured by the PCU, and then they will move up the coast line to the Louisiana border and capture a staging area at the edge of PE lands. They will be supported by 90 F/A-38s, 88 F-37s, 44 MAB-2s, 160 UH-58s, 110 AH-72s, 160 tanks, and 264 lighter ground vehicles of various types, including IFVs and infantry movers. They will all stage at the beachhead and the helis will fly close support for the troops, along with the tanks and ground vehicles."

The Louisiana campaign went very well, but Texan tunnels along the border are proving to be a continual nuisance, despite the overwhelming fire support.

The war is not yet lost for Texas, but it is slowly turning in the tide of the PCU/ FTSA coalition.

Back to Reach :P
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| September 14, 2010, 10:42 pm
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Gee, Nick is going over 9000 victories. For now...
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| September 14, 2010, 10:48 pm
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Quoting Awesome-o-saurus The Not-So-Great
Gee, Nick is going over 9000 victories. For now...


The war is turning in his favor mostly because I did not receive any FMs from Will.
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| September 14, 2010, 10:50 pm
Now to eat my socks...

Anywho, I am wondering, when would we start expanding into new planets? Oh, and we have started on improving our defense system and forces
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| September 14, 2010, 11:26 pm
Quoting Thomas N
I'm drawing the line before that happens.

So no.

Well, I guess we are supposed to kill eachother before someone grasps that concept
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| September 15, 2010, 3:30 pm
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Quoting Evan Melick
Just wanted to let everyone know, there won't be a report from me tonight, I didn't get home from the swim meet until almost 8pm, and I'm still not done with homework, so yeah.

So, our FMs for yesterday count for today, right?
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| September 15, 2010, 5:01 pm
Quoting Thomas N
Awwww, does wittle bwendan want some wecknognition?

O_o
Anyhow, Algeria is fortifying it's Libyan border, and is offering to lend India a squadron of flying wings.
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| September 15, 2010, 5:19 pm
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Thanks to stepped up production efforts, which has some politicians talking about such nonsense as India being an "Arsenal of Liberty," (for which the military has little use, they are only trying to protect their families) two more B-1s have been built and are being painted right now. Bringing the total operational strength of the Strategic Defense Arm to five aircraft.

The Chinese units are beginning to be trained, almost 200,000 volunteered probably due to the step-up in lifestyle they would receive from tenement housing to at least a nice condo. I won't lie, India hasn't treated the displaced citizens the best, but certainly not the worst. Coal, oil, wheat, gold, and all other forms of metal continue to poor from India's mines; we're seeking buyers for long-term contracts on everything but the gold.

The board of scientists continue to amaze us with nice little theories and research results.

The SPR has been revealed thanks to this little war in Africa, but the CM is the only one that will be told the specifics, you'll have to guess what it is. The space program is also coming along fine.

Well, that's my attempt to keep the activity up in this group, good luck!
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| September 15, 2010, 5:23 pm
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Quoting Jake H.
O_o
Anyhow, Algeria is fortifying it's Libyan border, and is offering to lend India a squadron of flying wings.

Yahoo! Mind if I use them in Operation Eagle? What kind of operational range are we talking about?
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| September 15, 2010, 5:26 pm
Quoting Ultramarine .
Yahoo! Mind if I use them in Operation Eagle? What kind of operational range are we talking about?

Probably about 4,000 miles, 4500 if you push. You can do what ever you want with them, as long as most of them come back in sizable pieces ;)
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| September 15, 2010, 5:31 pm
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Quoting Jake H.
Probably about 4,000 miles, 4500 if you push. You can do what ever you want with them, as long as most of them come back in sizable pieces ;)

Oh, probably, but you never know...

How many planes in a squadron?
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| September 15, 2010, 5:38 pm
Quoting Ultramarine .
Oh, probably, but you never know...

How many planes in a squadron?

No, I'm just not sure what would be except able. I'm more of a star craft/warhammer40k/star wars kind of guy.

Six per squadron, and two pilots per plane.
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| September 15, 2010, 6:02 pm
Today, citizens of Texas, mourn the loss of 200,000 people. It is very improbable that a single PCU ICBM destroyed a town that great in area, but, that being said, San Angelo was a peaceful town, the perfect picture of America, people with kids in their front-yards, neighborhood barbeque's and most of all warm and loving people. It may have been the epicenter of the revolution, but that didn't stop people there from loving their families, their country, and their God.

Most will point at me and say "You Small-Poxed" an airport."
My response is yes, I did "smallpox" an airport. Nick, killed 200,000 people, mostly women, children and the elderly since the men had gone to fight. Nick also Bomb Mackinac Island as Ham already pointed out. As you can clearly see Nick Shelton is a sick and twisted man, and a hypocrite. He forces his people to follow a religion that only he is above, he murders and lies. All to be protected by the Romans. When did they become a Patriotic superpower?

If the people of this group, even my allies tolerate the slaughter of innocents, then there is no good left in this world, and God has forsaken us all. The creator of this group has shown me forgiveness, and so I will not do something extremely harsh to Nick, his troops or his citizens.
My men will continue to fight, even after my death, because the love of freedom, sweet freedom, can never be conquered.
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| September 15, 2010, 7:15 pm
Quoting Thomas N
And, this being the second rendition of this group we've run, veterans, like me, Cliffe, Nick, Awe, or Sponty, know what is realistic for the 2030s.

You? Nick? Awe? Hardly veterans compared to Cliffe, Jack, Weagle, Erik, Brendon and I. You guys came in halfway, changed the history of the group, some for better, some for worse.
I'm just glad everyone in the RA-CAS-UEN had a good enough sense of realism not to invade China, the countries that did that in this group, and everyone who wasn't in the original for that matter, is considered a newbie by my standards.
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| September 15, 2010, 7:25 pm
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Quoting Will G.

Most will point at me and say "You Small-Poxed" an airport."
My response is yes, I did "smallpox" an airport. Nick, killed 200,000 people, mostly women, children and the elderly since the men had gone to fight. Nick also Bomb Mackinac Island as Ham already pointed out. As you can clearly see Nick Shelton is a sick and twisted man, and a hypocrite. He forces his people to follow a religion that only he is above, he murders and lies. All to be protected by the Romans. When did they become a Patriotic superpower?


A few things here: Yes, you smallpox'd the airport. I'm over that, myself. Nick is evil, he killed 200,000. Us real Americans have killed more before. Nick is evil again, so he bombed the island.

I've said this before, Nick is not the good guy. You should have expected things like this after messing with him for so long. And Southern Baptism or whatever is his state religion, I don't know why, he doesn't follow it, but some countries have state religions that they don't force people to follow. Personally, I'm against it.

However, his actions have nothing to do with wanting my protection. If Nick wanted, he could crush me. I'm just an ally where everyone else hates him.
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| September 15, 2010, 7:25 pm
Quoting Will G.
.

To be perfectly honest, you killed those people by rebelling in the first place. Had you not been a fool, you'd still be a member of the PE and there wouldn't be a war.

Speaking of that war, 75K FTSA troops are being moved up to the Louisiana-Texas border and are entering as we speak. 140 tanks, 181 ground vehicles, 32 AH-72s, and 18 F/A-38s will support them. 10 B2 Bombers have flown over the area between my two task forces to soften up enemy troops and installations. Most of them focused around the Beaumont area, and the two task forces are eventually planned to meet there.
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| September 15, 2010, 7:28 pm
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Quoting Will G.
You? Nick? Awe? Hardly veterans compared to Cliffe, Jack, Weagle, Erik, Brendon and I. You guys came in halfway, changed the history of the group, some for better, some for worse.


Yea, but hardly anything happened before we joined. When Erik convinced me to start, you were still below ten ICFs. I think. When I joined, I brought in a whole new crowd, and while hastening the group's fall to chaos, I also paved the way for the group-cycle that is becoming apparent.

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| September 15, 2010, 7:29 pm
Quoting Rocky W.
To be perfectly honest, you killed those people by rebelling in the first place. Had you not been a fool, you'd still be a member of the PE and there wouldn't be a war.

Speaking of that war, 75K FTSA troops are being moved up to the Louisiana-Texas border and are entering as we speak. 140 tanks, 181 ground vehicles, 32 AH-72s, and 18 F/A-38s will support them. 10 B2 Bombers have flown over the area between my two task forces to soften up enemy troops and installations. Most of them focused around the Beaumont area, and the two task forces are eventually planned to meet there.

Nick had intentions to kill me. If you weren't a fool you'd secede too.
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| September 15, 2010, 7:33 pm
Quoting Awesome-o-saurus The Not-So-Great

A few things here: Yes, you smallpox'd the airport. I'm over that, myself. Nick is evil, he killed 200,000. Us real Americans have killed more before. Nick is evil again, so he bombed the island.

I've said this before, Nick is not the good guy. You should have expected things like this after messing with him for so long. And Southern Baptism or whatever is his state religion, I don't know why, he doesn't follow it, but some countries have state religions that they don't force people to follow. Personally, I'm against it.

However, his actions have nothing to do with wanting my protection. If Nick wanted, he could crush me. I'm just an ally where everyone else hates him.

What do you mean "everyone"? Russia loves him.
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| September 15, 2010, 7:36 pm
All present here should be listening to the words of Mr. Gober here.

For I agree wholeheartedly with every one of them.

Nick Shelton has now shown his truest colors.

He has bombed strictly civilian targets, which are of no tactical value. The towns of San Angelo and Mackinac Island.

These acts were committed out of PURE EVIL. For no sane man would commit such horrific acts simply to lower morale. In fact, if anything, this has increased the Texan and SRGL will to fight by 100% and more.

Nick did this out of his own pleasure of seeing the innocent average people of Texas and the SRGL slaughtered like livestock. After all, civilians are worth just about that much to Nick.

If any of the leaders of the world's current leading powers are to call themselves a true, honorable, just, and fair man...

...then they must answer the call.

This call.

This call, to come forth and destroy the monster that is the Pacific Empire.

If it is allowed to continue existing, only God knows what death, destruction and suffering it will bring about the innocent good people of the Earth.

It is up to you and I now. We must protect the people of the world.
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| September 15, 2010, 7:36 pm
Will's mostly but not always true trolling has started...
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| September 15, 2010, 7:39 pm
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Quoting Kaiser Pharaoh Cliffe
If any of the leaders of the world's current leading powers are to call themselves a true, honorable, just, and fair man...

...then they must answer the call.

This call.

This call, to come forth and destroy the monster that is the Pacific Empire.

If it is allowed to continue existing, only God knows what death, destruction and suffering it will bring about the innocent good people of the Earth.

It is up to you and I now. We must protect the people of the world.


True, honorable, just, fair?

Well, whichever way it goes down, I'm dead, so I'll say no.
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| September 15, 2010, 7:41 pm
Quoting Kaiser Pharaoh Cliffe
He has bombed strictly civilian targets, which are of no tactical value. The towns of San Angelo and Mackinac Island.

These acts were committed out of PURE EVIL. For no sane man would commit such horrific acts simply to lower morale.

COUGH Dresden/Hiroshima/Nagasaki COUGH
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| September 15, 2010, 7:41 pm
Quoting Kaiser Pharaoh Cliffe
All present here should be listening to the words of Mr. Gober here.

For I agree wholeheartedly with every one of them.

Nick Shelton has now shown his truest colors.

He has bombed strictly civilian targets, which are of no tactical value. The towns of San Angelo and Mackinac Island.

These acts were committed out of PURE EVIL. For no sane man would commit such horrific acts simply to lower morale. In fact, if anything, this has increased the Texan and SRGL will to fight by 100% and more.

Nick did this out of his own pleasure of seeing the innocent average people of Texas and the SRGL slaughtered like livestock. After all, civilians are worth just about that much to Nick.

If any of the leaders of the world's current leading powers are to call themselves a true, honorable, just, and fair man...

...then they must answer the call.

This call.

This call, to come forth and destroy the monster that is the Pacific Empire.

If it is allowed to continue existing, only God knows what death, destruction and suffering it will bring about the innocent good people of the Earth.

It is up to you and I now. We must protect the people of the world.

The graves of my grandparents, great grandparents, all my family are here. And so will mine, and God help me so will you'rs Nick.

Answer the call!
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| September 15, 2010, 7:41 pm
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Quoting Will G.
What do you mean "everyone"? Russia loves him.


By where I meant Europe. Bohemia, England/Britain whatever Evan is, Cliffe, and France. I'm the only European who is his ally (I count Russia as it's own place).
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| September 15, 2010, 7:42 pm
Quoting Will G.
What do you mean "everyone"? Russia loves him.

Well...
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| September 15, 2010, 7:42 pm
Quoting Finn C-Q
Quoting Kaiser Pharaoh Cliffe
He has bombed strictly civilian targets, which are of no tactical value. The towns of San Angelo and Mackinac Island.

These acts were committed out of PURE EVIL. For no sane man would commit such horrific acts simply to lower morale.

COUGH Dresden/Hiroshima/Nagasaki COUGH

It was 300,000 people, or a million+ what would you rather have?
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| September 15, 2010, 7:42 pm
Quoting Awesome-o-saurus The Not-So-Great

True, honorable, just, fair?

Well, whichever way it goes down, I'm dead, so I'll say no.

What do you mean you'll be dead?

I frakking love the Roman Empire. No one's going to lay a hand on you as long as I'm in power. HeII, even if I were somehow at war with you and someone else began attacking you, I would kick their arse.
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| September 15, 2010, 7:45 pm
Quoting Will G.
It was 300,000 people, or a million+ what would you rather have?

Well, along with the Nuclear radiation...

Oh I don't know... I am not involved in the conflict, and this is a internet game...

>.>
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| September 15, 2010, 7:45 pm
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Quoting Kaiser Pharaoh Cliffe
What do you mean you'll be dead?

I frakking love the Roman Empire. No one's going to lay a hand on you as long as I'm in power. HeII, even if I were somehow at war with you and someone else began attacking you, I would kick their arse.


Well, after so readily handing over Ham and Gober to the evil forces of Nick, I'm a bit >.> on the trust issue.

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| September 15, 2010, 7:46 pm
Quoting Awesome-o-saurus The Not-So-Great

Well, after so readily handing over Ham and Gober to the evil forces of Nick, I'm a bit >.> on the trust issue.

Do you have any idea how much of an ally your are to ME?

You make my tanks. HeII, you make the best tanks in the world.

And you're the FRAKKING ROMAN EMPIRE. If Prusso-Egypt ever took over Italy, Greece, and Turkey, we'd have done it. It's a very Prusso-Egyptian kind of thing. Plus, everybody SHOULD love the Romans, for the simple fact that they're Romans.

You guys mean a lot to us. Without a nation similar to us in this world, we'd feel a lot more lonely.
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| September 15, 2010, 7:52 pm
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Quoting Kaiser Pharaoh Cliffe

You guys mean a lot to us. Without a nation similar to us in this world, we'd feel a lot more lonely.


Darnit Cliffe, you know just what to say to make me doubt my doubts.
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| September 15, 2010, 7:54 pm
Quoting Kaiser Pharaoh Cliffe
Do you have any idea how much of an ally your are to ME?

You make my tanks. HeII, you make the best tanks in the world.

And you're the FRAKKING ROMAN EMPIRE. If Prusso-Egypt ever took over Italy, Greece, and Turkey, we'd have done it. It's a very Prusso-Egyptian kind of thing. Plus, everybody SHOULD love the Romans, for the simple fact that they're Romans.

You guys mean a lot to us. Without a nation similar to us in this world, we'd feel a lot more lonely.

I FMd you.
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| September 15, 2010, 7:56 pm
Quoting Kaiser Pharaoh Cliffe
All present here should be listening to the words of Mr. Gober here.

For I agree wholeheartedly with every one of them.

Nick Shelton has now shown his truest colors.

He has bombed strictly civilian targets, which are of no tactical value. The towns of San Angelo and Mackinac Island.

These acts were committed out of PURE EVIL. For no sane man would commit such horrific acts simply to lower morale. In fact, if anything, this has increased the Texan and SRGL will to fight by 100% and more.

Nick did this out of his own pleasure of seeing the innocent average people of Texas and the SRGL slaughtered like livestock. After all, civilians are worth just about that much to Nick.

If any of the leaders of the world's current leading powers are to call themselves a true, honorable, just, and fair man...

...then they must answer the call.

This call.

This call, to come forth and destroy the monster that is the Pacific Empire.

If it is allowed to continue existing, only God knows what death, destruction and suffering it will bring about the innocent good people of the Earth.

It is up to you and I now. We must protect the people of the world.

Sounds like you need help to me. >.>
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| September 15, 2010, 8:13 pm
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Finland agrees that the slaughter of innocents is not correct, but being the Combat Mod, we stress neutrality.

That being said...
As I have received no FMs regarding today's battles, I have extended the usual 8 PM deadline to 10.

Rocky, please, FM me with your war plans. If I had not gone back through the comments, I would have missed your vague plans for today. FMs only in the future, otherwise I may simply miss your plans!
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| September 15, 2010, 8:14 pm
Quoting Awesome-o-saurus The Not-So-Great

Darnit Cliffe, you know just what to say to make me doubt my doubts.

;D
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ

Same goes for you two, Gober and Ham!
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| September 15, 2010, 8:14 pm
Go Nick! I support random killing and violence to get a point across. None of you are complaining about the US dropping nukes on thousands of innocent people in WWII.
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| September 15, 2010, 8:21 pm
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Quoting John Moffatt
Go Nick! I support random killing and violence to get a point across. None of you are complaining about the US dropping nukes on thousands of innocent people in WWII.


I will point out that the nuclear explosions saved more people than it killed, including Japanese. If the Japanese did not come to the table, the USAAF would have bombed the railway systems, halting food flow. 1945 was a very poor year in rice crop, and if the railroads and infastructure was destroyed, thousands would have perished. Not to mention the MASSIVE casualites expected for Operation Olympic, the invasion of Japan. While the nukes were terrible, the cost for both sides would have been higher if they had not gone through.

Of course, ICBMing civilians involved in a relatively local war, within days of declaring war, is a bit extreme.
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| September 15, 2010, 8:24 pm
I don't particularly care. Nick is my buddy, and if you want to get to him you have to..... negotiate strenuously with myself
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| September 15, 2010, 8:29 pm
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Quoting Matt Hacker

I will point out that the nuclear explosions saved more people than it killed, including Japanese. If the Japanese did not come to the table, the USAAF would have bombed the railway systems, halting food flow. 1945 was a very poor year in rice crop, and if the railroads and infastructure was destroyed, thousands would have perished. Not to mention the MASSIVE casualites expected for Operation Olympic, the invasion of Japan. While the nukes were terrible, the cost for both sides would have been higher if they had not gone through.

Of course, ICBMing civilians involved in a relatively local war, within days of declaring war, is a bit extreme.


That's what I tell everyone. Nick's evil, he does this stuff. Either stop him or let it go on, k?

And he didn't ICBM people, he bombed them.

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| September 15, 2010, 8:29 pm
Quoting Thomas N
It's a sign of the apocalypse! I agree with something said by Finn!

Huh
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| September 15, 2010, 8:43 pm
Quoting John Moffatt
Go Nick! I support random killing and violence to get a point across. None of you are complaining about the US dropping nukes on thousands of innocent people in WWII.

AHEM
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| September 15, 2010, 8:47 pm
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Today, soldiers will commute to Mackinac Island and raise a second flag at the military cemetary alongside the American flag at half staff: the SRGL flag, to honor those slaughtered that horrible day.
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| September 15, 2010, 9:00 pm
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Quoting Kaiser Pharaoh Cliffe

Quoting Will G.

There is a great book called "The Prince" you should read it, you'd hate it.

If you are going to attack someone, make sure that you hit hard enough that there is no fear of revenge.
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| September 15, 2010, 9:06 pm
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Quoting Matt Hacker
Whether we should have dropped the atomic bombs is debatable, but i don't want to get into that argument, it'll get us no where.
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| September 15, 2010, 9:08 pm
Quoting Thomas N
normally your statements are rather unrealistic.

Well, I did think about it that time...

i koncer da wod!1!1
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| September 15, 2010, 9:10 pm
Truly, I am sickened by Nick, he laughs at us as we mourn our dead. All that is left of San Angelo are memories, memories from my childhood, of my home, my backyard where I adventured with my dogs, Eisenhower and Juno, memories of Unidad park, the park I played in as a child, dedicated to a young boy that was thrown out the windshield and killed in a car accident, memories of the steel sheep that where all over the town, and memories of my childhood Presbyterian church which was nearing 150 years old.

I have one request if I am found and killed. That all my men be buried here as well and at least a respectable monument to be built for the deaths of the innocent and the soldiers.
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| September 15, 2010, 9:20 pm
Quoting John Dawn
Quoting Will G.

There is a great book called "The Prince" you should read it, you'd hate it.

If you are going to attack someone, make sure that you hit hard enough that there is no fear of revenge.

There will always be revenge
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| September 15, 2010, 9:35 pm
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Finland has decided to stand down from emergency alert status.

Also, Finland is interested in procuring a single Hyperfalcon for evaluation purposes.
(This will also go up in the trade thread).
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| September 15, 2010, 9:41 pm
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Quoting Finn C-Q

There will always be revenge
If there is then you didn't hit hard enough.

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| September 15, 2010, 9:48 pm
Quoting John Dawn
Quoting Finn C-Q

There will always be revenge
If there is then you didn't hit hard enough.

/thats what she said
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| September 15, 2010, 9:51 pm
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