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Twenty-Five? You want it? It's yours my friend! As long as you have the comments to pay for it.

-PCU fighting on two fronts with the SRGL and the LSR.

-Africa under scrutiny in the military department.

-War in Africa between the USCA and the Prussio-Egyptians.

-Ham is getting PWNT in Africa.

Let the overflow begin!
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| September 20, 2010, 6:53 pm
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Like I care about that territory. I would surrender, but that would ruin all the fun.
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| September 20, 2010, 6:58 pm
Quoting Ham N' Biscuits
Like I care about that territory. I would surrender, but that would ruin all the fun.

And fun is what it's all about =)
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| September 20, 2010, 7:00 pm
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Quoting Nick Shelton
Twenty-Five? You want it? It's yours my friend! As long as you have the comments to pay for it.



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_itjAc2ypGI

Meanwhile, in Japan:

Those pesky plumbers, er, Mongolberians, as Brendon so creatively calls them, have a foothold in the main island of whatever. Over 9000 of them are there. But wait, there's more!

The Japanese fleet has returned, in time to cut off the Finn-ers preparing to embark. If he wants to try and rush the defending fleet, he'll need to tell me.

In the air, the Japanese are using B-2s and B-1s to bomb the Mongolberians in Korea, to moderate effect so far. None have been lost to AA yet.

Short report is short.
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| September 20, 2010, 7:30 pm
In terms of yesterday getting no CM's,
I was on a Church youth retreat. Then every weekday I have football practice and don't get back till six. (CDT) On Thursday I have a game and will never be able to report at all and Fridays I have no practice.
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| September 20, 2010, 7:39 pm
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Quoting Thomas N
@Awe, we (the Admins) are working on passing a movement that would limit space exploits.

Basically nullifying both the Alenian and Prusso-Egyptian massive spaceships, and also put such things as railgun satellites, and other armed spacecarft, out of the picture.

So far, after polling admins, we've reached a 3/3 consensus against armed space exploits, and you're the last one needed to vote.

I'm pretty sure whether you vote for or against space stuff, it gets eliminated by either a 3/4 or 4/4 majority, but we still need your choice mentioned.


Since I'll never get around to building that missile silo in space, I vote yes on this measure.
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| September 20, 2010, 8:11 pm
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Quoting Thomas N
@Awe, we (the Admins) are working on passing a movement that would limit space exploits.

Basically nullifying both the Alenian and Prusso-Egyptian massive spaceships, and also put such things as railgun satellites, and other armed spacecarft, out of the picture.

I'm going to assume that gives me a full refund of all the costs and resources and I won't have to retool my secret space factories to produce the upcoming Roman heavy tank.

So my economy isn't frakked anymore.
Oh happy day.
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| September 20, 2010, 8:13 pm
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Quoting Areetsa C
Roman heavy tank.


I'm trying to get Lego stuff done, but everytime I start, my mom makes me clean up, because of some bird-brained excuse that school=/=Lego time. Or just the BS that "A cluttered room makes a cluttered mind" or whatever she said...
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| September 20, 2010, 8:17 pm
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Quoting Thomas N
Speaking of which, how much would I need to acquire the rights to build the tanks you designed for me within Oceania?


We negotiated this I believe, it's 5.7 million per tanks without accessories. Or with them? I forgot.
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| September 20, 2010, 8:22 pm
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Quoting Thomas N
You can have normal satellites, but we're pretty much banning space combat, so no need for armed satellites.

So what about spy sats? I presume they're allowed, what about ASAT weapons? It's not really fair to expect people to just put up with hostile eyes in their sky.
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| September 20, 2010, 8:25 pm
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Quoting Awesome-o-saurus The Not-So-Great

I'm trying to get Lego stuff done, but everytime I start, my mom makes me clean up, because of some bird-brained excuse that school=/=Lego time. Or just the BS that "A cluttered room makes a cluttered mind" or whatever she said...

Just tell her that fiddling with Lego helps you think.
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| September 20, 2010, 8:26 pm
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Quoting Thomas N
I'm more interested in being able to build my tanks in my own factories, and don't really have a preset number in mind...


Ah, in that case... I'm not sure. I'd need to do some research into that field of money-making.
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| September 20, 2010, 8:28 pm
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Quoting Areetsa C
Just tell her that fiddling with Lego helps you think.


I think I may this weekend. If I don't get yet another random headache, that is.
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| September 20, 2010, 8:29 pm
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Quoting Thomas N
I'll put that as a limit. Unarmed spy satellites and ASATs. But arming satellites is where it goes out of hand. Pretty soon we have railguns, and people claiming to be able to shoot at other people's countries from space, and it just gets to be too much.


Already found a loop hole. Kamikaze satellites gogogo.
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| September 20, 2010, 8:32 pm
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Quoting Ham N' Biscuits
Already found a loop hole. Kamikaze satellites gogogo.

Good thing the reboot means I never wasted every Soyuz in Baikonur putting the Tunguska into orbit.

BRB, nudging Ham's kamikaze satellites into the SRGL.

Quoting Thomas N
I'll put that as a limit. Unarmed spy satellites and ASATs. But arming satellites is where it goes out of hand. Pretty soon we have railguns, and people claiming to be able to shoot at other people's countries from space, and it just gets to be too much.

What about ICBMs? They, technically speaking, go into space. What about manned capsules?

So you can only get unarmed things... okay, so by that reasoning, a spy station in high orbit is okay? What if someone wants to have machineguns on board so they can shoot up people who try to dock uninvited?

Well, actually, that's pretty realistic. Until recently cosmonauts went up with a double shotgun/rifle/flaregun in case they came down in bear country, it'd probably work against boarders as well. Guns in space isn't new. Hijacking capsules is impossible because they can move, but space stations don't have that luxury.
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| September 20, 2010, 8:38 pm
I agree with Areetsa.

It's actually just plain unrealistic not to have armed satellites. REMEMBER FOLKS, THIS IS 2036, NOT THE PRESENT DAY!

All one must do to arm a satellite for orbital strikes is put some big rods on it with a small rocket booster to get them going. They drop, guide themselves, and boom. It's extremely simple, so the technology is in fact already here even in the present day. Almost certainly the only reason why it hasn't been done yet is for political reasons.
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| September 20, 2010, 8:49 pm
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Quoting Kaiser Pharaoh Cliffe
Almost certainly the only reason why it hasn't been done yet is for political reasons.

And the fact it's expensive and most federal defense budgets don't include the funding to expand the concept.
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| September 20, 2010, 8:53 pm
Quoting Kaiser Pharaoh Cliffe
I agree with Areetsa.

It's actually just plain unrealistic not to have armed satellites. REMEMBER FOLKS, THIS IS 2036, NOT THE PRESENT DAY!

All one must do to arm a satellite for orbital strikes is put some big rods on it with a small rocket booster to get them going. They drop, guide themselves, and boom. It's extremely simple, so the technology is in fact already here even in the present day. Almost certainly the only reason why it hasn't been done yet is for political reasons.

Right, I forgot that the Earth has a center of gravity. Honestly,the way your making it sound, NASA could easily navigate reentry module.
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| September 20, 2010, 8:53 pm
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Quoting Kaiser Pharaoh Cliffe
I agree with Areetsa.

It's actually just plain unrealistic not to have armed satellites. REMEMBER FOLKS, THIS IS 2036, NOT THE PRESENT DAY!

All one must do to arm a satellite for orbital strikes is put some big rods on it with a small rocket booster to get them going. They drop, guide themselves, and boom. It's extremely simple, so the technology is in fact already here even in the present day. Almost certainly the only reason why it hasn't been done yet is for political reasons.

And the fact that anyone who has one of those is basically holding the mother of all Swords of Damocles. Everyone'll invade him, because none of them trust him enough to let him have that sort of power.

And... I'm not really talking about armed satellites. There's nothing really that they can do that can't be done by a really high altitude bomber, or missiles. They're just more spacey. I'm talking about, say, if you have a super expensive space station, it's not realistic to assume that in a world climate like this, you wouldn't worry about it being hijacked. You'd have machineguns and sniper rifles on it, because in space, all you need is a couple of little holes in a ship hull to get someone to back off.

Quoting Thomas N
But you're going to need to make a MOC of your massive spy station.

Oh, I don't want a spy station, I'm just using it as an example. What on earth would I do with it?
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| September 20, 2010, 8:54 pm
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Quoting -> avalella
Right, I forgot that the Earth has a center of gravity. Honestly,the way your making it sound, NASA could easily navigate reentry module.

Oh, it's really easy to get a module down to earth. Getting it down in once piece, now, that's hard. Deorbiting is easy, landing is hard.
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| September 20, 2010, 8:55 pm
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Quoting Dr. Spontaneous
And the fact it's expensive and most federal defense budgets don't include the funding to expand the concept.


Erik just toasted that toast. IN THE TOASTER.

My new catch phrase, it's copyright pending.
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| September 20, 2010, 9:02 pm
Quoting Thomas N
This game gets a lot less fun when your enemy can just drop things on you from space.

If no one has armed satellites, then no one needs them.

That's why we're doing away with space-borne combat, its just not necessary for those who can afford it, nor fun for those who can't.

Yes, I was just pointing out that it would be unrealistic to ban such types of space weapons, a bit.

I would never, ever use them because they are... abhorringly unchivalrous...
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| September 20, 2010, 9:05 pm
Quoting Awesome-o-saurus The Not-So-Great


Battle thing?
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| September 20, 2010, 9:07 pm
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Quoting Finn C-Q
Quoting Awesome-o-saurus The Not-So-Great


Battle thing?



I'm sorry Finn. Come back when read the ICF, MHHHMM, a little longer.
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| September 20, 2010, 9:09 pm
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Quoting Ham N' Biscuits
Like I care about that territory. I would surrender, but that would ruin all the fun.

Fun? Huh. I'll make sure I have my share of that...
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| September 20, 2010, 11:38 pm
AHA! The C-F/A-22F FALKEN Raptor(s)[Yes, named after the FALKEN in Ace Combat 5 & ZERO] are finally up and running!
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| September 21, 2010, 1:21 am
Quoting Admiral A.C. 'Jake' Weagle
AHA! The C-F/A-22F FALKEN Raptor(s)[Yes, named after the FALKEN in Ace Combat 5 & ZERO] are finally up and running!

Since when?
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| September 21, 2010, 6:54 am
Quoting -> avalella
Since when?
Well I had it finished for about 2 months but I finally got it uploaded on to the net last night! I neglected to mention it until it hits the interweb!

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| September 21, 2010, 1:35 pm
Quoting Major Admiral A.C. 'Jake' Weagle
Quoting -> avalella
Since when?
Well I had it finished for about 2 months but I finally got it uploaded on to the net last night! I neglected to mention it until it hits the interweb!

My bad I didn't see it.
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| September 21, 2010, 4:14 pm
Quoting Areetsa C
Oh, it's really easy to get a module down to earth. Getting it down in once piece, now, that's hard. Deorbiting is easy, landing is hard.

Can I see a picture of your Aerospace Engineering masters degree? I'll show you mine.
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| September 21, 2010, 5:31 pm
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Quoting -> avalella
Can I see a picture of your Aerospace Engineering masters degree? I'll show you mine.

Can I see a picture of some kind of proof that you were rightfully elected and your government is a legitimate one?
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| September 21, 2010, 5:43 pm
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Quoting Areetsa C


May I respectfully ask why you seem to be disrespectful to everyone here?
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| September 21, 2010, 6:14 pm
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Quoting Matt Hacker

May I respectfully ask why you seem to be disrespectful to everyone here?

First I've heard of it.
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| September 21, 2010, 6:32 pm
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Quoting Matt Hacker

May I respectfully ask why you seem to be disrespectful to everyone here?


I second this.
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| September 21, 2010, 8:10 pm
Quoting Dr. Spontaneous
And the fact it's expensive and most federal defense budgets don't include the funding to expand the concept.

The US does, think of all the Blackops and unknow progects they have running alone, they spend probably more than five hundred million.
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| September 21, 2010, 8:33 pm
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Quoting Admiral A.C. 'Jake' Weagle
AHA! The C-F/A-22F FALKEN Raptor(s)[Yes, named after the FALKEN in Ace Combat 5 & ZERO] are finally up and running!


I swear, the only thing you build is that Raptor over and over.

>.>

Not that I'm complaining...
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| September 21, 2010, 8:40 pm
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Quoting Finn C-Q
The US does, think of all the Blackops and unknow progects they have running alone, they spend probably more than five hundred million.

Key word was "most". Anyhow, the US has diverged from spending the bigger dollars on space systems for the moment. The next big thing is reiterating air dominance and getting a few new ground systems into play; all of which are quite expensive in terms of new research and execution (i.e. F-35, EFV, GCV, etc.). Not to mention the Navy is getting a refit in next-gen. ships; pretty pennies are being stacked right there.
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| September 21, 2010, 8:42 pm
Quoting Dr. Spontaneous
Key word was "most". Anyhow, the US has diverged from spending the bigger dollars on space systems for the moment. The next big thing is reiterating air dominance and getting a few new ground systems into play; all of which are quite expensive in terms of new research and execution (i.e. F-35, EFV, GCV, etc.). Not to mention the Navy is getting a refit in next-gen. ships; pretty pennies are being stacked right there.

Well, have you heard of Trevor Paglan? Look him up. He's quite interesting
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| September 21, 2010, 8:55 pm
Quoting -> avalella
Since when?

Don't worry I have fixed your AA problem.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/jake_h/5013488094/
I'll be shipping the first hundred of these out tomorrow, they only have a range of 16 miles so you might want to keep their position well hidden.
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| September 21, 2010, 9:02 pm
Quoting Ham N' Biscuits

I second this.

He's Areetsa, he always has a wise crack up his sleeve.
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| September 21, 2010, 9:03 pm
Quoting Awesome-o-saurus The Not-So-Great

I swear, the only thing you build is that Raptor over and over.

>.>

Not that I'm complaining...

It does look that way huh..?

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| September 21, 2010, 9:10 pm
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Quoting Major Admiral A.C. 'Jake' Weagle
It does look that way huh..?


Maybe it's because I've only seen half of them, and of those only looked for about a minute, but yea, it does seems to be so.
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| September 21, 2010, 9:17 pm
The MAP- 01 is now up and running in the AMA.
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| September 21, 2010, 9:48 pm
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Quoting -> avalella
Can I see a picture of your Aerospace Engineering masters degree? I'll show you mine.

I'll have one to show you in a year...
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| September 21, 2010, 10:25 pm
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Quoting Ultramarine .
I'll have one to show you in a year...

I've got time...
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| September 21, 2010, 10:29 pm
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So...

Are we expecting any CRs for tonight?
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| September 21, 2010, 11:03 pm
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Quoting Ultramarine .
So...

Are we expecting any CRs for tonight?

Negative. Both CMs [Matt and Evan that is] had to head out early tonight.
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| September 21, 2010, 11:13 pm
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Quoting Ultramarine .
So...

Are we expecting any CRs for tonight?

Our Japanese CM is AFK, due to reasons not known to me at this moment. He should be back around 12:30 tomorrow EST.
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| September 21, 2010, 11:15 pm
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Quoting Dr. Spontaneous
Negative. Both CMs had to head out early tonight.

What? That makes two nights in a row!

*insert whining voice*
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| September 21, 2010, 11:19 pm
Quoting Ultramarine .
I'll have one to show you in a year...

Gimme a couple and I'll have one to show off too.
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| September 21, 2010, 11:21 pm
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War report? You want it? It's your's my friend, as long as you actually read it! *cough* Finn *cough*

In the islands of weird things, the Mongols have a foot hold, but are under attack and cut off from the sea by the Japanese fleet. 4500 infantry and support vehicles are moving in to engage the over 9000 Mongols who have manged to land.

Finn's fleet consists of this: 5 Aircraft Carriers, 20 Cruisers, 20 Destroyers, 20 Frigates, 20 Corvettes,
to intercept his fleet, along with 400 aircraft: fighters and bombers.

According to him. I seriously doubt 5 carriers for a low-population, nearly landlocked Russian splinter state, but whatever. The Japanese have a surprise, but I won't reveal it until the Finn-ers engage in battle.

The air battle has begun as well, with the Monbolberians gaining the upper hand. Only time will tell if this is gonna be another draw like the last sea battle I moderated.
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| September 22, 2010, 12:29 am
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Quoting Jake H.
He's Areetsa, he always has a wise crack up his sleeve.

If he's going to invent qualifications on the spot and demand I prove I have them, I am too. How do I know you're a legitimate ruler, either?
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| September 22, 2010, 12:51 am
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Quoting Areetsa C
If he's going to invent qualifications on the spot and demand I prove I have them, I am too. How do I know you're a legitimate ruler, either?


I'm legitimate. You know plans so crazy that they just might work?

I have one.
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| September 22, 2010, 12:59 am
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Quoting Awesome-o-saurus The Not-So-Great

I'm legitimate. You know plans so crazy that they just might work?

I have one.

Well, of course you are. Liars try not to draw attention to themselves. Selling tanks to everyone you can find isn't exactly lying low.
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| September 22, 2010, 1:06 am
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Quoting Areetsa C
Well, of course you are. Liars try not to draw attention to themselves. Selling tanks to everyone you can find isn't exactly lying low.


Indeed. Speaking of that, I'm getting started on yours this weekend, unless I marathon season 4 of BSG with my friends. In any case, I'll have something to look at soon.
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| September 22, 2010, 1:18 am
Quoting Awesome-o-saurus The Not-So-Great

According to him. I seriously doubt 5 carriers for a low-population, nearly landlocked Russian splinter state, but whatever. The Japanese have a surprise, but I won't reveal it until the Finn-ers engage in battle.


>.>

I got teh Shanhai...
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| September 22, 2010, 8:02 am
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India has entered into an agreement with Oceania and Malaysia for purposes of mutual defense; specifics will be decided on as situations materialize, but it will not be enacted until after the African situation is over. It will be a loose coalition, but trade is expected to pick up dramatically.

The joint-venture with Oceania for submarine building is going well. India is drafting plans for an air-superiority fighter based on her research and design scrutiny of the Su-51.

Three more B-1s have rolled off the assembly lines, making a total of eight in service. Plans for a cheaper medium bomber are on the boards, this aircraft must be also able to carry aerial torpedoes, sonar probes, and other ASW gear.

Major fleet drills are being enacted world-wide to give some real-time training to pick up response time and nail down routine. Exercises require most of India's cruiser and sub units to join the fleet in Africa.
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| September 22, 2010, 3:20 pm
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Quoting Finn C-Q
>.>

I got teh Shanhai...


Yes, and John Dawn has Saint Petersburg. Doesn't make him get auto-fleet.
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| September 22, 2010, 7:20 pm
Quoting Awesome-o-saurus The Not-So-Great

Yes, and John Dawn has Saint Petersburg. Doesn't make him get auto-fleet.

>.>

<.<
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| September 22, 2010, 7:34 pm
Quoting Brendan Dore
If Finn does have some kind of fleet like that, it's certainly only composed of outdated Russian/Soviet ships.

I iz gunna die, eh?
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| September 22, 2010, 7:37 pm
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I'll be here for 5 mins max. Here is really delayed and really horrible Combat Report.

-Texan forces take off from Altus AFB in heavy transports. From here, at least 1,000 men have been airlifted into Canada, with heavy Egyptian escort.
- Texas has reclaimed most of the lost territory near Oklahoma
-FTSA forces (still bogged down, and leaderless) are facing constant Prusso Egypt air attacks, and the main Texas attack force has reached the Dallas attack force. The battle could go either way, but it is leaning towards the Texan allies
- Missile strikes at Newport News damage the under-construction Great Lakes carrier there. PCU counterattack has been stalled due to a lack of numbers.
-Tennessee border is being pounded to dust by the Murus Wall
-Gainesville rally point has shot down many Egyptian fighters
- Due to a large offensive launched yesterday, Alaska is now firmly in Osean hands, and any pockets of resistance left are being cleaned up.

Sorry for that, but like many of us, school has been rather overwhelming as of late.
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| September 22, 2010, 7:39 pm
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France has begun its withdrawal of troops from Moldova granted Bohemia has come to control the area. The first 1,200 pairs of boots will begin their journey home tonight. Accommodations have been made for the first 580 Finnish troops to be retracted as well; of which the five A400Ms meant to transport them will be handed over to the Finnish government as a gift of faith. Anyhow, by next month most of the coalition forces should be back in their respective nations.

Also, the second Type-4 commissioned a bit back is nearing completion. We're looking at two to three weeks until it is finalized for seaborne duty. This vessel is planned to extend domestic security and not necessarily foreign engagements.
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| September 22, 2010, 8:39 pm
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I love how over 1000 miles of land, nothing could hit a couple planes. Just peachy. Also, another deal with Cliffe broken. JUST APPLEY.

Also, how did he get troops past my troops past Gainseville? In my plans I clearly stated they were reinforcing the areas we've taken, and most of it was already occupied by a PCU force, this was all forgotten. Very much disappointed. And lack of forces in Newport News? I ordered a land attack, it didn't show up!
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| September 22, 2010, 9:46 pm
The first 100 infantry AA launchers were just flown into B. Fasco, from there, they are going to go by truck, through Niger into chad.
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| September 22, 2010, 9:51 pm
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Quoting Nick Shelton
I love how over 1000 miles of land, nothing could hit a couple planes. Just peachy. Also, another deal with Cliffe broken. JUST APPLEY.

Also, how did he get troops past my troops past Gainseville? In my plans I clearly stated they were reinforcing the areas we've taken, and most of it was already occupied by a PCU force, this was all forgotten. Very much disappointed. And lack of forces in Newport News? I ordered a land attack, it didn't show up!


It's because everyone hates you and or forgot that you ordered this stuff to happen.
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| September 22, 2010, 10:03 pm
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Quoting Awesome-o-saurus The Not-So-Great

It's because everyone hates you and or forgot that you ordered this stuff to happen.

DON'T GET NO RESPECT.
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| September 22, 2010, 10:04 pm
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Quoting Nick Shelton
DON'T GET NO RESPECT.


Make them an offer they can't refuse.
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| September 22, 2010, 10:07 pm
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Quoting Awesome-o-saurus The Not-So-Great

Make them an offer they can't refuse.


Make them spaghetti they can't refuse.
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| September 22, 2010, 10:16 pm
Quoting Nick Shelton
DON'T GET NO RESPECT.

cuz peeple are too serious
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| September 22, 2010, 10:32 pm
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Quoting Evan Melick

I did mention that last bullet point there was a clandestine operation, did I not?
*sigh*

However, thank you for the combat report, as long as I keep winning.
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| September 22, 2010, 10:42 pm
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Quoting -> avalella

Check your FM, please. Sorta urgent.
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| September 22, 2010, 10:46 pm
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Listen Nick, calm down. USE REAL NUMBERS INSTEAD OF "I want all forces in the Newport News area to launch a counter-attack and push SRGL Forces out of the city." HOW AM I SUPPOSED TO KNOW THEIR NUMBERS!! As for Juneau, I have never gotten anything from you talking about that. It may have been ordered when Evan was the Alaska Combat Mod. I like fresh orders. After all, intellegience (in this case, the previous battle) is key to refining plans and exploiting weakness. If you give people the same order after a week of fighting, chances are the enemy will decide to surprise you and not comply with your plans.

Oh, and if you want more results, give me longer plans. While legnth =/= quality, the more that you do and the more detail in the plans the better, especialy considering how consistently detailed and long your Texan opponent's plans are.
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| September 23, 2010, 10:20 am
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Quoting Matt Hacker
Oh, and if you want more results, give me longer plans. While legnth =/= quality, the more that you do and the more detail in the plans the better, especialy considering how consistently detailed and long your Texan opponent's plans are.

That's probably why I'm winning in Africa so completely...
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| September 23, 2010, 11:22 am
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Quoting Matt Hacker
Listen Nick, calm down. USE REAL NUMBERS INSTEAD OF "I want all forces in the Newport News area to launch a counter-attack and push SRGL Forces out of the city." HOW AM I SUPPOSED TO KNOW THEIR NUMBERS!! As for Juneau, I have never gotten anything from you talking about that. It may have been ordered when Evan was the Alaska Combat Mod. I like fresh orders. After all, intellegience (in this case, the previous battle) is key to refining plans and exploiting weakness. If you give people the same order after a week of fighting, chances are the enemy will decide to surprise you and not comply with your plans.

Oh, and if you want more results, give me longer plans. While legnth =/= quality, the more that you do and the more detail in the plans the better, especialy considering how consistently detailed and long your Texan opponent's plans are.

Thanks for letting the plans out the group. I really appreciate the confidentiality we have here with our Combat Moderators. In my last order before that, I gave an order. Don't sass me. :P

Juneau may have been sent to Evan, if so it's my bad for not remembering to update.
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| September 23, 2010, 5:10 pm
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Yea, this goes for everyone. Always, always give your numbers and what your vehicles are, especially with me. I don't know military structuring beyond the old Roman Legion system, and I don't know what AHHAAX or whatever crazy abbreviation of yours means. Instead of MT-1/AGMS-1, put the official name and tell what it actually is: Missile tank. It's that easy.

People who give me the numbers and their vehicles rather than "12 divisions, one squadron of FA-59s" or whatever will generally get better results.

Just throwing that out there.
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| September 23, 2010, 7:05 pm
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Quoting Nick Shelton

You should have an organizing system.
FM the structure information to the CM, so he knows what sort of combat capability your units have, then when you tell him you're moving an armoured division to the pass, he knows you've just moved enough soldiers and tanks to conquer a medium sized African state.

Quoting Awesome-o-saurus The Not-So-Great
Yea, this goes for everyone. Always, always give your numbers and what your vehicles are, especially with me. I don't know military structuring beyond the old Roman Legion system, and I don't know what AHHAAX or whatever crazy abbreviation of yours means.

Just throwing that out there.

Have I mentioned that when I was figuring out how many vehicles I had, I figured out the size of a platoon, how many platoons in a company, add in a command unit, a supply unit and artillery, how many companies in a regiment, another command unit and specialized equipment, how many regiments in a division, etc.

Structure is king. CMs like structure, and it's a lot easier to handle Divisions when you're reinforcing the borders than X number of assault tanks and Y number of artillery vehicles. If your tank divisions come with attached artillery, AA and infantry support, you're never going to lose a battle because you forgot something.
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| September 23, 2010, 7:18 pm
Do I still have over 9000 Mongolbarians going?
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| September 23, 2010, 7:19 pm
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Quoting John Moffatt
Do I still have over 9000 Mongolbarians going?


For now.
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| September 23, 2010, 7:21 pm
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Quoting Areetsa C
Have I mentioned that when I was figuring out how many vehicles I had, I figured out the size of a platoon, how many platoons in a company, add in a command unit, a supply unit and artillery, how many companies in a regiment, another command unit and specialized equipment, how many regiments in a division, etc.

Structure is king. CMs like structure, and it's a lot easier to handle Divisions when you're reinforcing the borders than X number of assault tanks and Y number of artillery vehicles. If your tank divisions come with attached artillery, AA and infantry support, you're never going to lose a battle because you forgot something.


Structure is king. Unfortunately, I can't know what it means unless I am directly told. I have a feeling you've told me yours before, but I've forgotten it.
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| September 23, 2010, 7:22 pm
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Quoting Awesome-o-saurus The Not-So-Great

Structure is king. Unfortunately, I can't know what it means unless I am directly told. I have a feeling you've told me yours before, but I've forgotten it.

No I haven't. It's very extensive. I think when I had the 13th over in PCU territory I mentioned the composition, but that's what's in the unit, not why those things are in the unit.
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| September 23, 2010, 7:29 pm
Quoting Awesome-o-saurus The Not-So-Great
Yea, this goes for everyone. Always, always give your numbers and what your vehicles are, especially with me. I don't know military structuring beyond the old Roman Legion system, and I don't know what AHHAAX or whatever crazy abbreviation of yours means. Instead of MT-1/AGMS-1, put the official name and tell what it actually is: Missile tank. It's that easy.

People who give me the numbers and their vehicles rather than "12 divisions, one squadron of FA-59s" or whatever will generally get better results.

Just throwing that out there.

I usually give the "division/squadron/regiment/battalion/fleet/whatever" plus how many of them that makes. However, I h@te coming up with numbers for ground troops, especially panzer divisions, which are kind of complex in structure. So I usually just leave those be, or include a guide that I use to find out how much of what is usually in a panzer division.
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| September 23, 2010, 7:37 pm
Quoting Areetsa C
Structure is king. CMs like structure, and it's a lot easier to handle Divisions when you're reinforcing the borders than X number of assault tanks and Y number of artillery vehicles. If your tank divisions come with attached artillery, AA and infantry support, you're never going to lose a battle because you forgot something.

I completely agree.
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| September 23, 2010, 7:39 pm
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Another quickie tonight (lots 'o' homework)

Alaska
-Osean forces have launched a major counteroffensive at Juneau (by this time under complete PCU control). Their offensive began today with F-18s and F/A-22Ds rallying to fight the PCU air power there, with mixed success. MAF-1s used the terrain to their advantage, ambushing the visible F-18. They, however, came under fire from the F22s, and tightened their perimeter to the 40 miles of airspace around Juneau (to prevent ambush)
- PCU have fortified Juneau and is prepared for still air resistance

PCU/SRGL
-The most intense fire from the Murus Wall yet shocked SRGL defenders at Newport News today. This shock was immediately followed with a two division counter-attack there. The SRGL forces along the Southern flank have retreated to the Northern defensive positions. The SRGL's forces are rallying near the under-construction Great Lakes Carrier. The PCU are expecting further reinforcements. It should be noted that the PCU's morale is rather high now, especially after seeing their comrades mowed down in prior, unsuccessful counterattacks.

PCU/ Texas
- Coordinated PCU artillery fire pounded into the advancing Texans near Oklahoma. While the Texans are still highly motivated, men and equipment were lost here. The 35,000 (thanks for clear numbers, Nick) PCU troops in the area have rallied and are making a very strong counterattack. Due to unknown Texan numbers, it is impossible to tell what damage the PCU is now inflicting, but it is assured to be extremely high, especially after the PCU's soldiers unwillingness to take prisoners.
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| September 23, 2010, 9:00 pm
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Sorry for the double post, but Finland is proud to announce that phase one of its energy project has been achieved. All geothermal plants have now finished construction after two months time.

Also, we are glad to tell all funding nations that the F-35P has passed its carrier trials today, and the 3D thrust vectoring installed will ensure that it is a most ferocious opponent in these hositile skies. Kits for Finland's 66 F35s are being built now, and plans for said kits are being distributed to all funding nations. We thank you for your most generous support, and we hope you enjoy great success with the F-35P! If for some reason you wish Finland to produce kits for you, notify me. That last bit goes to those who did not pay for development but are now interested.
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| September 23, 2010, 9:11 pm
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Quoting Matt Hacker


Also, we are glad to tell all funding nations that the F-35P has passed its carrier trials today, and the 3D thrust vectoring installed will ensure that it is a most ferocious opponent in these hositile skies. Kits for Finland's 66 F35s are being built now, and plans for said kits are being distributed to all funding nations. We thank you for your most generous support, and we hope you enjoy great success with the F-35P! If for some reason you wish Finland to produce kits for you, notify me. That last bit goes to those who did not pay for development but are now interested.


How long would it take for us to produce and install our own? I'm eager to upgrade my paltry air force.
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| September 23, 2010, 9:39 pm
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Quoting Awesome-o-saurus The Not-So-Great

How long would it take for us to produce and install our own? I'm eager to upgrade my paltry air force.


It will probablly take at least two weeks for all kits to be produced, and likey take a week for a full squadron to be upgraded. Of course, the total time depends on how many active squadrons of legacy F-35s you have.
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| September 23, 2010, 9:56 pm
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Quoting Finn C-Q

I'm interested in providing air support in your war.

My main reasons are to field test my recent software that enables AH-1 helicopters to communicate with UAH-1 drones, and test how the drones do in harsher weather. Also, my pilots have very little experience against a real airforce, (they shot down a few disorganized Iraqi MiGs, that's all.) A real-life combat scenario is ideal for learning teamwork and coordinated action, which is essential. I also want to test out new radar and scanning equipment that has been installed on my MiG-29 and Su-27/30 fleet, as well as better terrain-following radar and targeting systems on the SPECAT Jaguars and MiG-27s.

If you're interested, shoot me a FM.
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| September 23, 2010, 10:35 pm
Quoting Jack Ford
I'm interested in providing air support in your war.

My main reasons are to field test my recent software that enables AH-1 helicopters to communicate with UAH-1 drones, and test how the drones do in harsher weather. Also, my pilots have very little experience against a real airforce, (they shot down a few disorganized Iraqi MiGs, that's all.) A real-life combat scenario is ideal for learning teamwork and coordinated action, which is essential. I also want to test out new radar and scanning equipment that has been installed on my MiG-29 and Su-27/30 fleet, as well as better terrain-following radar and targeting systems on the SPECAT Jaguars and MiG-27s.

If you're interested, shoot me a FM.

You? Attack Japan to help Finn? I wouldn't go there, partner. I think Japan is a pretty cool guy. eh has an awesome navy and doesn't afraid of anything.

And the Kingdoms of Mesopotamia have been sort of itching for a good fight.

Unless you want to face the full wrath of King Urukagor I of Sumeria, King Nebuchadnezzar V of Babylon, and King Assur-Denikar I of Assyria, I suggest you retract your offer.

Come on, Japan already has its hands full with two large Asian powers. Be a fair man.
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| September 23, 2010, 11:11 pm
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I couldn't get you the plans for I was commuting to Virginia the whole day, then played a game of the Civilization V demo. I think tomorrow I'll download the game off Steam, it's so awesome(a-saurus).
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| September 23, 2010, 11:20 pm
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Quoting Kaiser Pharaoh Cliffe
Be a fair man.


Ironic.

You first betrayed Ham and Will on the conditions Nick could invade without interference and he gave up almost all his land he had gained. Then you went back on that, and began giving air support to Ham and Will, fighting Nick with your air force there.

Your definition of fairness, eh?
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| September 23, 2010, 11:26 pm
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Quoting Kaiser Pharaoh Cliffe
You? Attack Japan to help Finn? I wouldn't go there, partner. I think Japan is a pretty cool guy. eh has an awesome navy and doesn't afraid of anything.

And the Kingdoms of Mesopotamia have been sort of itching for a good fight.

Unless you want to face the full wrath of King Urukagor I of Sumeria, King Nebuchadnezzar V of Babylon, and King Assur-Denikar I of Assyria, I suggest you retract your offer.

Come on, Japan already has its hands full with two large Asian powers. Be a fair man.

At the moment, I'm out to test my fancy new technology, and the only allies I've got involved in any wars are Finn and Gober, who appears to no longer be active, plus attacking the PCU is kinda like a weasel attacking a wolf, and Nick's been cool to me since RA-CAS-UEN... even though I've kinda attacked him before... >.>

Anyway, I don't really know who Japan is, so I wouldn't know if he's cool or not. The only reason for my proposed actions is that East Asia is fairly rough conditions to fight in, and it would be a test to see how my desert-oriented helicopters and fighters perform in high humidity and foul fall weather, as well as give the mechanics some experience with problems only encountered in high humididy/warm areas.
I'm not quite sure who you're reffering too as Mesopotamia, but Ultramarine is an ally of mine, and B.E.A.R wouldn't attack me. It would be totally impractical.
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| September 23, 2010, 11:31 pm
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Quoting Jack Ford

I'm not quite sure who you're reffering too as Mesopotamia, but Ultramarine is an ally of mine, and B.E.A.R wouldn't attack me. It would be totally impractical.


Cliffe is referring to the non-Muslim rulers in Iraq, Jordan, Syria, and Kuwait.

It's been a subject of some debate.

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| September 23, 2010, 11:34 pm
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Quoting Jack Ford


Anyway, I don't really know who Japan is, so I wouldn't know if he's cool or not.


Brendan.
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| September 23, 2010, 11:50 pm
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Quoting Awesome-o-saurus The Not-So-Great

Cliffe is referring to the non-Muslim rulers in Iraq, Jordan, Syria, and Kuwait.

It's been a subject of some debate.

Hmmm... They are all technically in subjection to some close ally, Cliffe or in the case of Iraq, to myself. Why would they care about me sending aircraft off to Japan anyway? As long as I leave them and their opinions alone, they should remain at a state of somewhat peace, right? It seems illogical to me that I send a small portion of my air wing over to other areas of the globe, and they all the sudden rebel and attack me from inside...

>.>

<.<

At any rate, security has been set to immediately investigate any un-authorized or abnormal actions by any potential enemies within the UAC's boundaries. UAH-1s and light helicopters will be prepared to respond at a moment's notice. I'm not taking any chances with a civil war.
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| September 23, 2010, 11:50 pm
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Quoting Kaiser Pharaoh Cliffe
Be a fair man.

Haven't you heard? ALL is fair in love and war...

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| September 23, 2010, 11:50 pm
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Quoting Ham N' Biscuits

Brendan.


Brendan Dore? If this is the case and it is Brendan Dore, I recall my offer. Brendan Dore is cool. I thought he was Korea for some reason.
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| September 23, 2010, 11:51 pm
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Quoting Jack Ford

Brendan Dore? If this is the case and it is Brendan Dore, I recall my offer. Brendan Dore is cool. I thought he was Korea for some reason.

He started as Japan and conquered Korea.
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| September 23, 2010, 11:53 pm
Quoting Ultramarine .
Haven't you heard? ALL is fair in love and war...

AHA! GOTCHA!

/CHIVALRY

Boom.
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| September 23, 2010, 11:56 pm
Quoting Kaiser Pharaoh Cliffe
I think Japan is a pretty cool guy. eh has an awesome navy and doesn't afraid of anything.


Ah, but a navy won't help when we're already invading by land
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| September 23, 2010, 11:57 pm
Quoting Jack Ford

Brendan Dore? If this is the case and it is Brendan Dore, I recall my offer. Brendan Dore is cool. I thought he was Korea for some reason.

Yes, and Iraq, Kuwait, and Syria (all which I referred to as Mesopotamia) are MY territories, not yours. Just so we're clear.
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| September 24, 2010, 12:00 am
Quoting John Moffatt
Ah, but a navy won't help when we're already invading by land

Battleship bombardment.

'Nuff said.
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| September 24, 2010, 12:01 am
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Quoting John Moffatt
Ah, but a navy won't help when we're already invading by land

Japan is an island. You can't just drive your tanks over the ocean floor.
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| September 24, 2010, 12:01 am
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Quoting Kaiser Pharaoh Cliffe
Battleship bombardment.

'Nuff said.

Coastal artillery.

'Nuff said.
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| September 24, 2010, 12:03 am
Quoting Areetsa C
Coastal artillery.

'Nuff said.

Do you really think you can amass batteries of coastal artillery to produce a powerful enough broadside to even damage a battleship? Coastal artillery usually never gets any bigger than 10".

Any bigger and it would have to be like the Atlantic Wall or something- definitely not your ordinary coastal artillery.
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| September 24, 2010, 12:05 am
@ Areetsa - All the forces I needed were conveniently on a boat from Alaska
@ Cliffe - What's the range on a battleship gun? Obviously they can hit Tokyo or any coastal city but they'd be doing more damage to their own country than to my forces
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| September 24, 2010, 12:10 am
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Quoting Jack Ford
At any rate, security has been set to immediately investigate any un-authorized or abnormal actions by any potential enemies within the UAC's boundaries. UAH-1s and light helicopters will be prepared to respond at a moment's notice. I'm not taking any chances with a civil war.

I could supply an anti-insurgency consultant or two to you (just one or two guys, in other words). I've had recent experience in Bombay and Pakistan with the buggers.
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| September 24, 2010, 12:55 am
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Quoting Kaiser Pharaoh Cliffe
Do you really think you can amass batteries of coastal artillery to produce a powerful enough broadside to even damage a battleship? Coastal artillery usually never gets any bigger than 10".

Any bigger and it would have to be like the Atlantic Wall or something- definitely not your ordinary coastal artillery.

Well, I don't know about anyone else, but I definitely could. Artillery plays a huge role in my tactical doctrines. Do tell, what effect would 40 7-tube SP rocket launchers, firing laser guided missiles, have on your hypothetical battleship raider if they emptied all 280 missiles at it in one volley?

Now, each one of those rockets is more than capable of spattering your average MBT all over the landscape, so what would more than 200 of them do? Even the most capable of AMS devices couldn't shoot down more than a third of them, not with them all coming at once. Even the ones that got shot down would still be pelting the ship with shrapnel and burning fuel. They'd be pulling fragments out of the hull for years afterwards.

Now, imagine I'd somehow got hold of a couple of the biggest, most advanced naval guns money can buy and had them blasting away as well.
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| September 24, 2010, 2:23 am
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Quoting Evan Melick
Battleships in the modern naval battlefield are obsolete. Any pros they may have over the conventional naval vessel is vastly outweighed by their insane cost and complication. Smarter people then all of us have spent millions on coming up with this one simple fact kids.

That's why I have a healthy supply of anti-shipping missiles on my battleships. I just couldn't resist the look of something like this: http://ilovebubbadogs.com/bubbapress/wp-content/uploads/2008/02/iowa1.jpg

Plus, they provided invaluable fire support in the landings at Abidjan.
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| September 24, 2010, 3:24 pm
I am now heading off to Rockford, Illinois for another WWII reenactment. Won't be back until probably late Sunday.

While I'm gone, Awesome-o-saurus is in charge, as well as in charge of my forces (but NOT the ones flying over the Pacific Empire, of course).

No funny stuff now, y'all.

Seeya.
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| September 24, 2010, 3:36 pm
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Another reason battleships are outdated is that they shot so far they didn't know where the he11 they were shooting.
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| September 24, 2010, 3:52 pm
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Awe's in charge? Not Tom.

Yaay! Awe got a promotion!
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| September 24, 2010, 5:34 pm
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I would like plans to me before 9PM tonight (EST).
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| September 24, 2010, 5:42 pm
I'm increasing the amount of units in one of my SML web sites, twofold. Just in case >.>
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| September 24, 2010, 6:08 pm
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Command of the FTSA has been relinquished from Rocky W. to me for the moment. He's being quite the absentee war hero.
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| September 24, 2010, 6:30 pm
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Quoting Evan Melick
It doesn't matter how cool you think they look. The economics of building a battleship just for the role of giant armed guided missile cruiser is a poor choice. An no matter how powerful you think a 16" gun may be for amphibious landings, a well placed missile or air strike is going to be much more effective. I'm not going to start an argument, but building fleets of giant battleships just so you can feel cool is going to bankrupt your country real fast, reduce your naval capacity in other, more proven versatile areas, and limit the size of the fleet you can realistically maintain. A modern battleship if the type you all seem to love would be upwards two to three times the cost of a modern Nimitz-class sized carrier.

I'm thinking of building a couple of fast missile boats, for river patrol and defensive purposes.

Tell me, would something the size of, oh, an MTB or large speedboat, carrying cruise missiles, be able to (relatively) safely engage gun-armed enemy ships at long range with a possibility of inflicting crippling damage?

Quoting Ham N' Biscuits
Another reason battleships are outdated is that they shot so far they didn't know where the he11 they were shooting.

Why, forward observers, my dear boy!

Quoting Brendan Dore
That was in when they didn't have radar or advanced optics.

That doesn't work now, either. Battleship guns can easily shoot beyond the horizon. No telescope in history can help you aim that far away.
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| September 24, 2010, 6:33 pm
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Quoting Areetsa C
That doesn't work now, either. Battleship guns can easily shoot beyond the horizon. No telescope in history can help you aim that far away.

That's why you have live satellite feed and GPS. And, for economic reasons, that's why I only built four.
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| September 24, 2010, 8:49 pm
Quoting Areetsa C
I'm thinking of building a couple of fast missile boats, for river patrol and defensive purposes.

Tell me, would something the size of, oh, an MTB or large speedboat, carrying cruise missiles, be able to (relatively) safely engage gun-armed enemy ships at long range with a possibility of inflicting crippling damage?

You can consider your idea stolen.
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| September 24, 2010, 8:52 pm
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Quoting Ultramarine .
That's why you have live satellite feed and GPS. And, for economic reasons, that's why I only built four.


That's 8-12 carriers that would cripple the Spanish Armada of battleships.
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| September 24, 2010, 9:03 pm
Quoting Evan Melick
It doesn't matter how cool you think they look. The economics of building a battleship just for the role of giant armed guided missile cruiser is a poor choice. An no matter how powerful you think a 16" gun may be for amphibious landings, a well placed missile or air strike is going to be much more effective. I'm not going to start an argument, but building fleets of giant battleships just so you can feel cool is going to bankrupt your country real fast, reduce your naval capacity in other, more proven versatile areas, and limit the size of the fleet you can realistically maintain. A modern battleship if the type you all seem to love would be upwards two to three times the cost of a modern Nimitz-class sized carrier.

RT Evan Melick
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| September 24, 2010, 10:16 pm
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Quoting Ham N' Biscuits

That's 8-12 carriers that would cripple the Spanish Armada of battleships.

Which you still haven't built...
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| September 24, 2010, 10:17 pm
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Sorry my friends, I can't give combat reports! Come back when you're a little, MMM, more specific.

loljk

Here we go: Near somewhere called Sendai, the land battle has begun. The numerically superior Mongols (superior for now...) have engaged the Japanese, meeting lighter forces that have already fortified. The Mongol advance is being slowed down by numerous blockades and ambushes.

At sea, the fun begins. The Finn Flotilla was attacked by the Brendan Boats, by air and water. Japanese bombers inflicted moderate damage on many transports, and heavy damage was inflicted on a few more by light Japanese craft heavily laden with explosives and whatnot. Kinda like suicide ships. The battle has just begun. Given the naval experience of the Japanese, Finn may be in trouble. However, he is close enough now to rush the fleet and make a landing. The choice is his.
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| September 24, 2010, 10:27 pm
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As the African situation is pretty well decided, the combat engineers have declared the airport at Abidjan open, working with the natives to get it in working order again.

Speaking of the natives, India has already dispatched ambassadors there to talk to there people about rebuilding the infrastructure and supplying whatever aid is needed for their population. In compliance with requests, the Ivory Coast will serve as a naval/air base for India, but wishes to be mainly free of Indian army personnel after the Americans have been pushed out. Also, the shipyards there are being slated for building equipment for destroyer/cruiser production eventually.

Also, as a large part of their population is now out of work, they can serve as unskilled labor in outsourcing production for the shipyards once operational. Others will receive advanced training for oversight.

The Chinese are completing training. Some hundred of them are being trained as pilots. They have already been slated for some hazardous duties as they are naturally very aggressive and determined.

Another B-1 has been produced, making nine so far in the continuing production. Three are coming due pretty quick.
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| September 24, 2010, 10:43 pm
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Alaska
-PCU has redoubled its defensive efforts around Juneau. However, today was quiet, as no major Osean forces came. However, whenever the inevitable attack comes, his forces will be well defended.

SRGL/ PCU
-SRGL forces move 10,000 troops to its defensive troops already in the area, throwing off some of the PCU attacks' momentum. While outgunned here, the PCU is using the remains of its fleet to give heavy air support to the troops, and are steadily gaining. It should be noted that the SRGL has been forced to shift its defensive perimeter from the Great Lakes carrier to locations further inland.
-The Great Lakes hull was severely damaged today, as 5 B52s supported by 20 offshore MAF-1s did their best to punch as many holes in it as possible. The damage is extensive, and even if the SRGL can hold on to Newport News, the construction will be delayed at least a month.
-10 B-52s heavily bombed weapons factories in Detroit. The damage was extensive, as even the SRGL F-22s there could not break through the sheer number of supporting MAF-1s to reach the bombers
- Just a side note here, the SRGL still have the numerical advantage in Newport News, and is still far from losing. Just saying before angry responses.
-In Tenessee, PCU forces were lured into a trap while advancing, and took heavy fire when their advance became overextended. They are in danger of being isolated and destroyed.
- A Virginia class sub launched all of its cruise missiles at the vaunted Portland shipyards. These missiles have damaged a dry dock severely enough to prevent its use for a good long time. Other missiles hit the Command Building for the shipyards killing crucial individuals. The overall and final cost of this strike is still to be determined.

Texas/ PCU/ Prusso- Egypt
-Texas reinforced its troops today without renewing any offensives. They are consolidating their losses.
-PCU have begun a massive campaign to secure the Northern Panhandle of Texas. 10,000 troops (including armor and auxiliary staff) began to roll out in the aims of securing Amarillo, which has already been pounded by PCU artillery.
-The PCU fighters that have so far survived the Egyptian air power (Texas has, to date, lost 106 airframes, thus the bulk of their air presence is gone) has been dedicated to the sole purpose of protecting these troops from fighter aircraft.
- In Beaumont, the FTSA has moved the troops which have gathered here over the course of the week (124,405) and began a long and obviously painful attack to Houston, to help relieve the bogged down and nearly destroyed attack force.
-PCU air attacks targeted Texan air bases, to be met with a swarm of Egyptian fighters. Wary of traps, the Egyptians did not pursue the fleeing PCU/FTSA fighters.

Later that day...
-Prusso Egypt has launched a comprehensive bombing campaign on strategic targets in the PCU, as well as a daring and rather massive attack on PCU military forces.
- Stealth bombers with heavy escort cluster-bombed the Pacificans near Oklahoma. Just like the first night this was done in the SRGL, the results are tremendously devastating. However, the PCU has managed to shrug off some of these attacks owing to the massive numbers of troops there.
- Seek and Destroy flights of Egyptian fighters deployed in North America headed out tonight, with the goal of continuing/ finishing the decimation of the PCU's air force. Losses are light so far, as the first night was spent mostly identifying where the Pacificans' aircraft even were.
- A large number of Egyptian Heavy bombers are being transferred to North America, to bases which are still classified at this time.
-Central American- located forces of Egypt have begun attacking the Panama Canal, as well as cutting off other routes for PCU reinforcements.
- Standard CAP and CAS flights tonight spent the bulk of the time in a reinvigorated air war in both theaters, and little time was left for attacking ground units, but they did manage to exterminate several key locations across the FTSA and the PCU. These places were so intensively bombed that it would be impossible to reuse them.
- Comprehensive strategic bombing from low level bombers ran into air resistance early, but once this was tied up, they continued on and destroyed key roadways in military use, all major railroads were hit, and a few munitions factories were hit as well. Several of the major highways will be out of service for soft skinned and non-off road vehicles for a rather long time.
- Campaign has delayed Pacifican deployments significantly

That should be all, sorry that I kinda book ended Cliffes plans at the end, I didn't know where to throw 'em.
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| September 24, 2010, 10:46 pm
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I'm just asking a question, not being rude.

How do a few SRGL cruise missiles get all the way across North America and hit my buildigs, causing legit damage when in Africa I fired nearly the amount over a much smaller area and over 2/3 were lost in-flight?

Also, to Cliffe, thanks for backstabbing me yet again. It's awesome.


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| September 24, 2010, 10:59 pm
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Quoting Nick Shelton



Apparently the Virginia that launched the missiles was the last one on the Pacific coast. And for the cruise missiles, I figured that a dock wouldn't have major CIWS defense. As for the critical damage.... I just assumed that 20 years in the future the guidance of missiles would be good enough to hit the most crucial places consistently.
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| September 24, 2010, 11:02 pm
Quoting Nick Shelton

Also, to Cliffe, thanks for backstabbing me yet again. It's awesome.


I wouldn't trust cliffe, his priorities seem to be really "scattered"
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| September 24, 2010, 11:07 pm
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Quoting Jake H.
I wouldn't trust cliffe, his priorities seem to be really "scattered"


Yea, same here.
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| September 24, 2010, 11:23 pm
So I'm going to cede all of my forces of the FTSA to Nick and the PCU.

I've sorta lost interest in the 21st century world, plus I've had very little time for stuff like this. I'll remain in the group and check in from time to time, but I'm going to focus my building time on other themes.
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| September 24, 2010, 11:25 pm
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Quoting Rocky W.
So I'm going to cede all of my forces of the FTSA to Nick and the PCU.

I've sorta lost interest in the 21st century world, plus I've had very little time for stuff like this. I'll remain in the group and check in from time to time, but I'm going to focus my building time on other themes.


Good luck and have fun with your other building.

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| September 24, 2010, 11:26 pm
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Quoting Evan Melick


Also, on the topic again of FAMB's, to whoever asked. No, not MBT sized, way too small. Something the size of a coast guard cutter, or even a corvette. Again, best examples reside in Scandinavia, Germany, or Greece.


And guess who is the current owner of the Hellenic Navy...

Missile corvettes for all!
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| September 25, 2010, 12:07 am
Algeria report.
because I'm too tired/lazy to write one out.
Upping uranium production in Niger.
Building hydro electric dam in Mali.
Stabilizing Mali (extra police, SP forces increase, etc.)
Sending what remains of my unused missile tanks (75) to my Libyan border.
Completion of Libyan border landmines.
Continued industrialization of Algeria.
Long range, accurate artillery research continues.
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| September 25, 2010, 12:19 am
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Quoting Evan Melick
Also, I just got home, so no CR report today. Although it would just be more Indian victories, as only he seems to be sending me anything. Just assume the Americans are a few hours closer to collapsing.

Just how many men does he have there? They've held out against D-Day onslaughts for a week now with threadbare morale. I'm surprised they've not surrendered yet.

You aren't forgetting about the other parts, right?
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| September 25, 2010, 1:21 am
Quoting Evan Melick So no, you are wrong.


What i mean with RT is totally agreed as in twitter language.
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| September 25, 2010, 2:36 am
Quoting Jake H.
Algeria report.
because I'm too tired/lazy to write one out.
Upping uranium production in Niger.
Building hydro electric dam in Mali.
Stabilizing Mali (extra police, SP forces increase, etc.)
Sending what remains of my unused missile tanks (75) to my Libyan border.
Completion of Libyan border landmines.
Continued industrialization of Algeria.
Long range, accurate artillery research continues.

I'm sending a team of 80,000 labour corps personell and engineers to assist in the construction, if you don't mind.
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| September 25, 2010, 10:22 am
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Quoting Evan Melick
He had a little more than you I think, I can't remember exactly, but defending on two fronts. Either way it doesn't matter, unless he pulls some magic rabbit out of his hat, his defense will be collapsing sometime around this afternoon.

Which leaves Nick to take out the American Front. :/
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| September 25, 2010, 10:36 am
Quoting -> avalella
I'm sending a team of 80,000 labour corps personell and engineers to assist in the construction, if you don't mind.

Sure, I'm sending out another hundred of those infantry AA launchers out this afternoon.
I'm also going to send out 50 of my tank buster UVs.
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| September 25, 2010, 10:53 am
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Quoting Nick Shelton
Which leaves Nick to take out the American Front. :/


Because you're having so much success currently...
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| September 25, 2010, 2:09 pm
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Quoting Ham N' Biscuits

Because you're having so much success currently...

You're not one to talk right now...
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| September 25, 2010, 3:52 pm
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Quoting Ultramarine .
You're not one to talk right now...


Woohoo, yoy defeated an army of 45,000, 1/3 the size of your combined forces.
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| September 25, 2010, 4:05 pm
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Quoting Ham N' Biscuits

Woohoo, yoy defeated an army of 45,000, 1/3 the size of your combined forces.

Uh, not really. I've got all of 5,500-6,000 men there...

Plus about 1,000 allied troops. 7:1 isn't exactly what I'd have called glimmering odds for my forces. For awhile there, I was worried I might not win.

Plus complete control of the skies, accommodating ports, brilliant tactics, and all the ammunition I could want and desire. That and a fierce determination, surprise, and pure awesomeness.

You really had 45,000 men there? And you abandoned them? Well, they aren't there now...
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| September 25, 2010, 4:21 pm
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Quoting Evan Melick
ANYWHO, the missile boat idea is a tride and true concept, although something that small could not really hold cruise missile. Anti shipping missiles yes. Fast attack missile boats are a very effective solutions for smaller nations to build a fairly nice sized fleet of smaller, lightly armed vessels that can tango with the big boys. See the Hellenic Navy for a good example.

So a largish speedboat with oh, half a dozen missiles would indeed be able to frak up an enemy warship or two? Good news indeed. Even better if I can standardize the missiles with something else to save costs.

So, with ships, would surface MLRS systems firing guided missiles be able to do notable damage? By which I mean, if I hypothetically had a light MLRS system on hand, would fitting this missile boat with its missile pod be a better or equal idea than/to fitting it with anti-shipping missiles?
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| September 25, 2010, 4:23 pm
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Quoting Evan Melick
Also, on the topic again of FAMB's, to whoever asked. No, not MBT sized, way too small. Something the size of a coast guard cutter, or even a corvette. Again, best examples reside in Scandinavia, Germany, or Greece.

Well, scratch that idea. The whole point was that I'd be able to build the thing in minifig scale without it looking bleh, and having the ability to have it scarper inland via rivers and canals.

So why are there size restrictions? I don't think the missiles are that big.

Or torpedoes: are torpedo boats still effective?
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| September 25, 2010, 4:26 pm
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Quoting Areetsa C


So why are there size restrictions? I don't think the missiles are that big.


Anti-Shipping Missiles are extremely large and heavy, as they carry a massive warhead intended to destroy ships in a single hit, and they also feature massive propulsion system intended to get the missile going at massive speed (usually around Mach 3) to try to maximize survivability. In short, most modern ASMs are large because it is crucial to their design. However, there are smaller ones like the Harpoon, but assuming that CIWS is more effective 25 years in the future, Harpoons would be useless since they go slow and feature a small warhead.
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| September 25, 2010, 4:57 pm
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Quoting Evan Melick

So a small craft with an MLRS would not be able to effectively cause damage to warships.

Would 40 or 50 MLRSes firing at once have a good chance of causing damage to surface items; bridge, antenna, helipads etc.?

What I'm really after is something that's cheap, can be produced quickly and can make the naval powers wary about getting too close.

Although I do have the Arctic Ocean just off my beaches, which'd probably thin out most of their forces. Basically; I don't want true warships because I wouldn't be able to do anything with them unless someone with battleships capable of doing double duty as icebreakers decided to cause trouble.

Oh, forget it. I've probably got some old ASMs sitting in storage somewhere, I'll prop them up near the coast and leave it at that.
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| September 25, 2010, 5:18 pm
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Quoting Areetsa C
Oh, forget it. I've probably got some old ASMs sitting in storage somewhere, I'll prop them up near the coast and leave it at that.

That's right! A sort of "Nest of bees" concept.
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| September 25, 2010, 5:41 pm
Quoting Matt Hacker

Anti-Shipping Missiles are extremely large and heavy, as they carry a massive warhead intended to destroy ships in a single hit, and they also feature massive propulsion system intended to get the missile going at massive speed (usually around Mach 3) to try to maximize survivability. In short, most modern ASMs are large because it is crucial to their design. However, there are smaller ones like the Harpoon, but assuming that CIWS is more effective 25 years in the future, Harpoons would be useless since they go slow and feature a small warhead.

But in twenty five years, technology would be more advanced all around, the US has a disc the size of a coffee can, that can fire armor piercing rounds when dropped from a UAV, and we now have missiles that weigh a third of the Viper air to ground missile, and can carry the same amount of punch.

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| September 25, 2010, 5:44 pm
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No matter what advances in explosives or propulsion, serious ASMs will always be massive. There is simply no way to make a huge explosive much smaller than it already is. And not to mention the huge solid rocket (possibly replaced with, say, a RAMjet in the future). This adds to the weight and size of the missile anyway. Besides, even near misses can cause severe damage, say, the remains of an intercepted missile could spill on deck, or the shockwave could destroy the radar- a smaller warhead would prevent any damage from near misses.
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| September 25, 2010, 5:48 pm
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Quoting Ultramarine .
Uh, not really. I've got all of 5,500-6,000 men there...

Plus about 1,000 allied troops. 7:1 isn't exactly what I'd have called glimmering odds for my forces. For awhile there, I was worried I might not win.

Add that to the 60,000 Russians.
Plus complete control of the skies, accommodating ports, brilliant tactics, and all the ammunition I could want and desire. That and a fierce determination, surprise, and pure awesomeness.

You really had 45,000 men there? And you abandoned them? Well, they aren't there now...


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| September 25, 2010, 6:39 pm
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Quoting Kaiser Pharaoh Cliffe
Yes, and Iraq, Kuwait, and Syria (all which I referred to as Mesopotamia) are MY territories, not yours. Just so we're clear.

OK. Why exactly do you think that a bunch of infuriated Mesopotamian tribal rulers are going to cause significant damage to me? I'm all set up to counter insurgency, since I have a significant ammount of insurgent activity in my country. Unless you as a country fund them, they are hopeless. If you fund them, it will not be an economicaly safe situation for either of us.
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| September 25, 2010, 6:52 pm
Quoting Jack Ford
OK. Why exactly do you think that a bunch of infuriated Mesopotamian tribal rulers are going to cause significant damage to me? I'm all set up to counter insurgency, since I have a significant ammount of insurgent activity in my country. Unless you as a country fund them, they are hopeless. If you fund them, it will not be an economicaly safe situation for either of us.

But Cliffe has a super economy, he can build thousands of titanium plated vehicles, fund four multi front wars, AND still make money.

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| September 25, 2010, 7:04 pm
Quoting Evan Melick
Assuming I believe you are the Russian nation I think you to be (I'm still not to sure with you all), most of your coast is iced over throughout the year, so you only have to worry about naval attacks up there about 5 months out of the year. :P

Theoretically, yes you could do that, however they would be very susceptible to long ranged attacks, since they are far too small to have any real close in defensive ability. But yeah, it would probably suit your purposes, although you would need between 30 and 50.

I'm not Areetsa, but I'm also interested in this idea. Would having 5 speed boats armed with anti missile weaponry be able to safe-guard a a group of 20 speed boats?
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| September 25, 2010, 7:07 pm
Quoting Thomas N
Woah, four wars? where'd that come from, I only know about his fighting in Africa, and his sending of air power to help Texas and the SRGL.

You forgot Switzerland.
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| September 25, 2010, 7:11 pm
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Quoting Evan Melick
Theoretically, yes you could do that, however they would be very susceptible to long ranged attacks, since they are far too small to have any real close in defensive ability. But yeah, it would probably suit your purposes, although you would need between 30 and 50.

Yeah, the MLRSes would be more for emergency "oh frak I'm out of cruise missiles and they've still got a battleship" situations.
Considering my divisions have plenty, that's not too impossible just for capital defense units.

(before people complain: my "MLRSes" aren't those huge things you're probably thinking of. They're 6x6 heavy trucks with rocket launchers on top. They have a special advantage, but I'm keeping that to myself for a while.)

Quoting Jake H.

Armour advances just as fast as weapons. You should know that.

Quoting Ultramarine .
That's right! A sort of "Nest of bees" concept.

No, that would be the MLRSes. What I'm doing is taking some of those missile systems that people put on missile boats, and placing them in shore batteries. Just as deadly, and a fishload cheaper. Still expensive, which reminds me why I don't have a navy.
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| September 25, 2010, 7:13 pm
Quoting Areetsa C

Quoting Jake H.

Armour advances just as fast as weapons. You should know that.



I thought I was telling Matt that.
I really need to stop skimming...
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| September 25, 2010, 7:16 pm
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Quoting Thomas N
speedboats = bad navy.
Corvette sized boats = decent navy.
Frigates/destroyers = good navy.
Any navy with a large aircraft carrier = great navy.
My/Brendonia's Navy = Awesome navy.

Have you seen Ian's doubledecker aircraft carrier? Let's just say I hope his carrier crews are ex submariners.

Marching overland with a huge army to smash the enemy's capital = much better than a navy.

I'm not saying navies are useless, because they've got their uses, but relying on any one thing to get you to victory doesn't work.
Tanks can't hold ground, infantry can't blitzkrieg, airforces can't conquer territory, ships have definite uses IF the enemy has any form of sea power. If 95% of their population has never seen a ship bigger than a river ferry in their whole lives, not so much.

Quoting Jake H.
I'm not Areetsa, but I'm also interested in this idea. Would having 5 speed boats armed with anti missile weaponry be able to safe-guard a a group of 20 speed boats?

AMS kit is huge. Want my advice? Don't get a navy. I started in a landlocked country, and I've won every war I got involved in.

..probably because none of them were proper CM wars, but eh.

Navies are hugely expensive. Airforces are too, but at least an airforce isn't useless once you're more than 500 KM inland.


Does anyone have a vehicular CIWS? I'm just wondering.
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| September 25, 2010, 7:25 pm
Quoting Areetsa C.
Quoting Jake H.
I'm not Areetsa, but I'm also interested in this idea. Would having 5 speed boats armed with anti missile weaponry be able to safe-guard a a group of 20 speed boats?

AMS kit is huge. Want my advice? Don't get a navy. I started in a landlocked country, and I've won every war I got involved in.

..probably because none of them were proper CM wars, but eh.

Navies are hugely expensive. Airforces are too, but at least an airforce isn't useless once you're more than 500 KM inland.


Does anyone have a vehicular CIWS? I'm just wondering.

That's been my philosophy for a while now, but I'm going to need to build up my navy and air force eventually. That's why I built some cheap fighters, and some other not so great planes, I want to have the start of a navy ready for when I decide to really expand it.

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| September 25, 2010, 7:32 pm
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Quoting Thomas N

Besides, I'm pretty much a bunch of islands, so naval power is an absolute must.


"Powerful navies are not optional on archipelago maps." -Civilization IV.
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| September 25, 2010, 7:38 pm
Quoting Thomas N
Alright, that is true, however, you neglect the fact that Cliffe separates his mega nation into two smaller nations.

So, therefore:

Germany fights in Switzerland.

Egypt fights in Africa and sends planes to America.

His air force is shared, and he uses German units in Egypt, and vica-versa. I think that's for the most part a formality.
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| September 25, 2010, 7:40 pm
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Quoting Awesome-o-saurus The Not-So-Great

"Powerful navies are not optional on archipelago maps." -Civilization IV.


Ah, the civ wisdom prevails once again. Speaking of, want to play Civ 5 next weekend? It's awesome?
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| September 25, 2010, 7:50 pm
Quoting Evan Melick
It depends on how you do it. It would be fairly effective, but would have large operational gaps, due to really the jerry-rigged nature of the theory. Putting a CIWS missile or gun emplacement on the back of a boat could work, but again, we're not talking a family speedboat, you'd still need something the size of a yacht for both the CIWS and MLRS boats, and you'd have trouble integrating the system. Again, it could work, but only in a very limited brown-water role.

Okay, thanks Evan, if I ever did end up building some, the boats would probably be about this big http://www.mocpages.com/moc.php/227721
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| September 25, 2010, 7:51 pm
Quoting Areetsa C
Marching overland with a huge army to smash the enemy's capital = much better than a navy.

Ships have definite uses IF the enemy has any form of sea power. If 95% of their population has never seen a ship bigger than a river ferry in their whole lives, not so much.


=D
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| September 25, 2010, 7:58 pm
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Quoting Ham N' Biscuits

Ah, the civ wisdom prevails once again. Speaking of, want to play Civ 5 next weekend? It's awesome?


I don't own Civ V, and won't for a while, I've decided. I'm gonna wait until we have a better computer and my mom isn't telling me it's a bad game because she doesn't know what a bug patch is.
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| September 25, 2010, 8:01 pm
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Quoting Awesome-o-saurus The Not-So-Great

I don't own Civ V, and won't for a while, I've decided. I'm gonna wait until we have a better computer and my mom isn't telling me it's a bad game because she doesn't know what a bug patch is.


I keep forgetting that you only pose as someone 62 years old and that your computer can barely run Civ IV.
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| September 25, 2010, 8:27 pm
We are currently developing a standard (Colombian) tank for Great Colombian forces. This tank will hopefully be able to be mass produced at very small costs, no further details shall be revealed. An ambassador has been sent to negotiate with Brazil's government to allow free passage of Great Colombian military convoys through the country, however negotiations have currently reached a stalemate.

We are also making good use of Venezuela's rather impressive mmilitary, most of which is now at our disposal. A few splinter groups of the FARC have emerged, and are being purged before they are allowed to become a serious threat.
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| September 25, 2010, 8:37 pm
Batch 4 of the UAV's have been produced, along with the operators training completed. We now believe it's time to take a looksie at the MedVeds from Alenia, with their permission of course. Anyway, the Gobi Solar Farm has reached 30% completion, but major delays are expected with the Japanese invasion going on.
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| September 25, 2010, 8:40 pm
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Quoting Juan .
We are currently developing a standard (Colombian) tank for Great Colombian forces. This tank will hopefully be able to be mass produced at very small costs, no further details shall be revealed.

Just remember, you get what you pay for.
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| September 25, 2010, 9:10 pm
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Quoting Ham N' Biscuits

Really? 60k Russians? I had no idea people around here stationed so many troops in their satellite nations. Where did you get your numbers on that?
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| September 25, 2010, 9:12 pm
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Quoting Ultramarine .
Really? 60k Russians? I had no idea people around here stationed so many troops in their satellite nations. Where did you get your numbers on that?


The combat report...
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| September 25, 2010, 9:14 pm
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Quoting Ham N' Biscuits

The combat report...

Well, apparently you don't have to worry about him anymore, I'm the only one sending orders these days. So the two of us can just pretend you're losing epically to me. I like it that way better.

I'm wondering what kind of long-term morale hits your men will take knowing you'll use them as long as you can and then simply leave them in their time of greatest need? I'll need to ask Evan about that. I mean, it could even affect your men in America...
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| September 25, 2010, 9:19 pm
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Quoting Ultramarine .
Well, apparently you don't have to worry about him anymore, I'm the only one sending orders these days. So the two of us can just pretend you're losing epically to me. I like it that way better.

I'm wondering what kind of long-term morale hits your men will take knowing you'll use them as long as you can and then simply leave them in their time of greatest need? I'll need to ask Evan about that. I mean, it could even affect your men in America...

Which would be epic for me.
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| September 25, 2010, 9:23 pm
Quoting Areetsa C
Just remember, you get what you pay for.

Well they won't be a permanent force, more as a stand in for a lack of any tanks, eventually better tanks will either replace the proposed design or simply be used alongside said proposed design.
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| September 25, 2010, 9:31 pm
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MOCpages doesn't like the phrase Smosh uses in every episode. Lol.

Anyways, Quiet, shorts, we're beating you and you know it.

We fired those generals in Africa. The Chancellor was most disappointed at them for being incompetent. Stoopid(just to be safe) colonial officers. Thats the reason they don't get to serve in the homeland.
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| September 25, 2010, 9:32 pm
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Quoting Ham N' Biscuits

Anyways, Quiet, shorts, we're beating you and you know it.



Are you reading the combat reports?
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| September 25, 2010, 9:37 pm
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Quoting Awesome-o-saurus The Not-So-Great
Quoting Ham N' Biscuits

Anyways, Quiet, shorts, we're beating you and you know it.



So far I've failed to see Nick make any progress as of yet. So much for obliterating me. I haven't even pulled out the longboxes yet.

Are YOU reading the combat reports?


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| September 25, 2010, 9:40 pm
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Quoting Ham N' Biscuits


Nay, I think you shall loose.

>.>
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| September 25, 2010, 9:41 pm
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@Ham: I am winning kind of in Newport. Your command left the city.
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| September 25, 2010, 9:46 pm
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Quoting Nick Shelton
@Ham: I am winning kind of in Newport. Your command left the city.


Oh no, the generals are smart to put the fighters away from the action? Nick must surely be winning.
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| September 25, 2010, 9:50 pm
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Quoting Ham N' Biscuits
Oh no, the generals are smart to put the fighters away from the action? Nick must surely be winning.

You actually withdrew? That's more wisdom than you've shown elsewhere, so I'd say it's a good chance you're worried; yes.
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| September 25, 2010, 9:59 pm
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Quoting Ultramarine .
You actually withdrew? That's more wisdom than you've shown elsewhere, so I'd say it's a good chance you're worried; yes.


I only withdrew the air force farther north and out of harms way. The marines are not withdrawing at all, and the navy is mopping up currently. I'm only worried about my carrier, but I atleast have another one of the same class in the north.
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| September 25, 2010, 10:04 pm
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Combat Report coming up soon.
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| September 25, 2010, 10:41 pm
This should be interesting.
/waits eagerly/
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| September 25, 2010, 10:57 pm
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Today was a tough call guys. I know some of you wont agree with it but based on what I got, this is what happened.

Before today's battle...
-36 Hyperfalcons flew across the Atlantic. These vehicles (without suspicion) flew to the main Egyptian Air Bases in America. They then proceeded to destroy as many aircraft on the ground as possible. More than 50 Egyptian aircraft were lost in this surprise attack. The culprit is yet to be identified, although the Egyptians fear it is a rouge squadron. However, only time will tell...

Alaska:
-PCU continues making large preparations in Juneau. 10 F35s struck Osean Air Bases today as well.

Texas:
- Texan forces were once again immobile today, allowing for some serious problems to arise. The PCU stayed place in Amarillo, and easily drove back the uncoordinated counterattacks there. The majority of offensive PCU air power in the theater was dedicated to exterminating the pesky Texan/Egyptian air bases. Using data received from the unknown Hyperfalcons, they located these Egyptian bases, and massive air battles ensued. It is clear that the PCU lost many brave pilots, but it would appear that the Egyptian losses were grievous, taking many casualties on the ground.
-The final batch of PCU troops departed Gainesville, and these men moved into the towns of Sanger and Lewisville. Every Texan that owned a weapon was arrested by military police, or if they showed intent on using it, shot.
-The attack here was supported by CAS aircraft and dealt a major blow to the Texan tanks, who were caught without AA, as the PCU attacks of battles prior had destroyed most.
-the FTSA/PCU attack grows close to Houston. It appears to be moving inexorably at the moment, and the devastation of Egyptian air power here did not help.
-As a special note, the Egyptians did not commit large numbers of their aircraft on the offensive today, and as a result, most were on the ground.

SRGL:
-Three Virginia class subs that headed to Newport News made a MOST unpleasant discovery. Instead of the two battered cruisers remaining, they found 3 battleships, and 10 destroyers, freshly deployed. The destroyer's ASW aircraft located and destroyed the Virginia's before they could launch their full volleys. Two Calahaws were hit, but none are destroyed or crippled.
-SRGL forces attempted a counterattack in Tennessee, and have pushed as far as possible. However, their combat performance was hampered by their army's utter defeat in North Africa.
- Pacifican stealth fighter strikes blocked off SRGL forces from their CPs near Newport News.
-Additional FTSA forces have arrived to bolster the PCU's attack. While still outnumbered, by now the demoralizing effect of a new naval task force (which is still bombarding their positions), and a defeat in Africa is really hurting the SRGL forces. While still numerically superior, the PCU/FTSA forces made significant gains against the SRGL and took the docks, but not the town. The SRGL are still putting up heroic resistance there, and are most likely planning a counterattack.

Later that day...
-India enters the war as allies of the PCU!
-Ultra low flying B1s avoided detection across the ocean. They attacked the Egyptian air bases (which already were visited by the mysterious Hyperfalcons and PCU strike craft), and broke the Egyptian air power's back. While unescorted, the B1s managed to avoid detection for long enough, and then used their AESA radar to jam the radar guided missiles launched by fanatical Egyptian pilots. The raid was a vital success, however, a B1 was heavily damaged after taking a healthy dose of 20mm cannon fire. It requested to land in the PCU and it was accepted. The B1 should be heading back home tomorrow.
-The runways were cratered, and many parked aircraft were destroyed due to India's use of the so-called "X Bomb"

Thats all.
In a nutshell-
-Egyptian air power in North America is pretty much gone after three major strikes on all air bases in the same day.
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| September 25, 2010, 11:33 pm
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Today was a great day in the PCU. A day when everything went perfectly in the wars.
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| September 25, 2010, 11:37 pm
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Quoting Nick Shelton
Today was a great day in the PCU. A day when everything went perfectly in the wars.


I told you coordinated strikes on airbases would work.

Or at least I suggested the original idea of attacking them on the ground.

>.>
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| September 25, 2010, 11:42 pm
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Quoting Ham N' Biscuits

OH, YEAH! What now?!?! Your ally is gone, totally. And you are not going to have fun now. All by your little lonesome.

I have one question for you:

"Was it worth it, pal?"
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| September 25, 2010, 11:50 pm
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Quoting Ultramarine .
OH, YEAH! What now?!?! Your ally is gone, totally. And you are not going to have fun now. All by your little lonesome.

I have one question for you:

"Was it worth it, pal?"

'E's not pinin'! 'E's passed on! This SRGL is no more! He has ceased to be! 'E's expired and gone to meet 'is maker! 'E's a stiff! Bereft of life, 'e rests in peace! If you hadn't nailed 'im to the perch 'e'd be pushing up the daisies! 'Is metabolic processes are now 'istory! 'E's off the twig! 'E's kicked the bucket, 'e's shuffled off 'is mortal coil, run down the curtain and joined the bleedin' choir invisibile!! THIS IS AN EX-SRGL!!
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| September 26, 2010, 12:06 am
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Quoting Evan Melick

MORE counter-insurgency teams have been dispatched to Pakistani borders, more retaliatory raids.

The Chinese have largely been deported from their homelands and mixed with Indian colonists, so how they could form a coherent
resistance is something that India would be surprised to learn. A large proportion of them are now serving in specialized units of the Indian army. They are pleased to have a vested interest in their futures, India is conducting surveys to garner minority opinions for improvements in programs.

Possibilities include semi-sovereign rule in the traditional province areas. Elected representatives would govern the Chinese but would still be subservient to India.

Indian counter-intelligence believes it has leads as to where the terrorists are receiving support, actions will be taken to grind this supporter into the dust from whence he came.
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| September 26, 2010, 12:27 am
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Quoting Areetsa C

Huh?
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| September 26, 2010, 12:27 am
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Since Cliffe left me in charge of his forces... What exactly am I supposed to do with them?

Does any one know what his plans were?
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| September 26, 2010, 12:49 am
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Quoting Awesome-o-saurus The Not-So-Great
Since Cliffe left me in charge of his forces... What exactly am I supposed to do with them?

Does any one know what his plans were?

I think he was going to surrender. He mentioned something to that effect on Facebook.
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| September 26, 2010, 12:55 am
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Quoting Ultramarine .
I think he was going to surrender. He mentioned something to that effect on Facebook.


>.>

I'm not buying it.
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| September 26, 2010, 1:06 am
Quoting Ultramarine .
I think he was going to surrender. He mentioned something to that effect on Facebook.

Add me yo
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| September 26, 2010, 1:37 am
Quoting Ultramarine .
Quoting Areetsa C

Huh?

Have you not seen the Monty Python Dead Parrot Sketch?
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| September 26, 2010, 1:48 am
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Quoting Ultramarine .


Bring it.
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| September 26, 2010, 8:23 am
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Quoting Finn C-Q
Add me yo

What's your name? And I'm not really friends with Cliffe. I just said that to add credence to my 'other' claims. You know Will Jarman? He's on there too.

Quoting Awesome-o-saurus The Not-So-Great

>.>

I'm not buying it.

I'm not very good at this snake-oil business, am I?

Quoting John Moffatt
Have you not seen the Monty Python Dead Parrot Sketch?

That'd be a no. "How not to be seen?" Yes.

Quoting Ham N' Biscuits

Bring it.

I already did.
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