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International Conversation Forum XXVI
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Wow, 26. I think I joined when it was nine. We've come a long way! Well, basically, I just wanted to start one myself. Plus, last night's actions provided a good 'break point.'

If teh adminz couldz locks teh last one, we'd all be obliged.

*insert perfunctory bullet points*
-War in Africa winding down on one front, heating up on another. The SRGL has effectively ceased to exist in Africa.

-North American dust still settling, war still raging.

-The Japanese are starting to pray for the 'Kamikaze' that saved them from eastern attackers close to four centuries ago to come again.

The game is afoot!
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| September 26, 2010, 11:31 am
In other news, the Mongolian government has begun an experement with 10 criminals already sentanced to death. These men will be crucified until the point of near death, and will be revitalized after said experience. Scientists hope that these men will then be able to walk on water.
I know Brendan and Tom should get that
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| September 26, 2010, 11:58 am
poland here
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| September 26, 2010, 2:32 pm
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Quoting Glenn Streeter
poland here

You're Poland? I DARE you to attack Cliffe.
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| September 26, 2010, 2:41 pm
Quoting Nick Shelton
You're Poland? I DARE you to attack Cliffe.
umm no im not silly

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| September 26, 2010, 2:46 pm
Quoting Evan Melick
Post in the new member thread so I know what to do for the map.
done

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| September 26, 2010, 3:06 pm
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This is a great day for India. The perpetrators of the cowardly attack on Bombay, in the form of two high-ranking officials, will shortly be avenged. The heroic stories of the forty pilots that were going it alone for over three days without relief are surfacing. Medals are being awarded and will be presented before a joint session of congresses shortly. The continuing actions of the B-1 crews are also coming under official review for decoration. Infantry units are also being given exceptional unit citations.

India now firmly grasps two sides of the Eastern Hemisphere in her hands. A prosperous future lies in store for this new land. Though the territory is to be divided, a good outlook greets the optimistic heart.

However, one grim duty remains. The prosecution of ranking military officers for war crimes. Here is the verdict of the military tribunals:

"Lieutenant Commander Jason Kissenger, for your part in the naval attacks on Bombay, and the subsequent deaths of over 300 civilians from terrorist actions following that incident; you are hereby sentenced to be hanged by the neck until dead. Sentence to be carried ou at 09:00 on the morrow."

"Colonel William Benson, for your part in the naval attacks on Bombay, and the subsequent deaths of over 300 civilians from terrorist actions following that incident; you are hereby sentenced to be shot by firing squad. Sentence to be carried out at 10:00 on the morrow."

Several thousand American POWs still need to be processed and interred until actions are over. India gives its promise that only the two officers above will be held responsible for the attack on Bombay. The others will continue to be treated as they have been to this point.

Another full battalion has been flown in, and the transports are on their way back.
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| September 26, 2010, 4:07 pm
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Quoting Ultramarine .
This is a great day for India. The perpetrators of the cowardly attack on Bombay, in the form of two high-ranking officials, will shortly be avenged. The heroic stories of the forty pilots that were going it alone for over three days without relief are surfacing. Medals are being awarded and will be presented before a joint session of congresses shortly. The continuing actions of the B-1 crews are also coming under official review for decoration. Infantry units are also being given exceptional unit citations.

India now firmly grasps two sides of the Eastern Hemisphere in her hands. A prosperous future lies in store for this new land. Though the territory is to be divided, a good outlook greets the optimistic heart.

However, one grim duty remains. The prosecution of ranking military officers for war crimes. Here is the verdict of the military tribunals:

"Lieutenant Commander Jason Kissenger, for your part in the naval attacks on Bombay, and the subsequent deaths of over 300 civilians from terrorist actions following that incident; you are hereby sentenced to be hanged by the neck until dead. Sentence to be carried ou at 09:00 on the morrow."

"Colonel William Benson, for your part in the naval attacks on Bombay, and the subsequent deaths of over 300 civilians from terrorist actions following that incident; you are hereby sentenced to be shot by firing squad. Sentence to be carried out at 10:00 on the morrow."

Several thousand American POWs still need to be processed and interred until actions are over. India gives its promise that only the two officers above will be held responsible for the attack on Bombay. The others will continue to be treated as they have been to this point.

Another full battalion has been flown in, and the transports are on their way back.


Funny. Neither of these perpetrators were ever in Africa. You've caught a red herring. The submarines are in the Pacific, and intelligence is in the mainland. So sorry that you are commiting war crimes.
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| September 26, 2010, 4:16 pm
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Quoting Ham N' Biscuits
Funny. Neither of these perpetrators were ever in Africa. You've caught a red herring. The submarines are in the Pacific, and intelligence is in the mainland. So sorry that you are commiting war crimes.

That's really easy for you to say, now. You had to have a naval and military commander in the Ivory Coast or you are worse at this game than you think.
From day 1-you've not said you've evacuated anyone.
From day 3-Russia and I have had air supremacy; which means that you couldn't have gotten them out. You said yourself that you fired a couple someones for incompetence, so you shouldn't even care.
Ask Evan (and yourself) if I haven't tried to find out who you've got there that is over the rank of captain, multiple times. But all of a sudden, you know who they are and where they aren't. That's 'funny.'

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| September 26, 2010, 4:25 pm
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Quoting Ultramarine .
That's really easy for you to say, now. You had to have a naval and military commander in the Ivory Coast or you are worse at this game than you think.
From day 1-you've not said you've evacuated anyone.
From day 3-Russia and I have had air supremacy; which means that you couldn't have gotten them out. You said yourself that you fired a couple someones for incompetence, so you shouldn't even care.
Ask Evan (and yourself) if I haven't tried to find out who you've got there that is over the rank of captain, multiple times. But all of a sudden, you know who they are and where they aren't. That's 'funny.'


Of course I had commanders there, but they didn't order anything. The patrolling of the Indian Ocean fell under the command of our intelligence agency.
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| September 26, 2010, 4:28 pm
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Quoting Ham N' Biscuits

Of course I had commanders there, but they didn't order anything. The patrolling of the Indian Ocean fell under the command of our intelligence agency.

You have a bunch of 007's running your navy?

But like I said, it's easy to say that now, considering I asked you directly if anyone in Africa was responsible and you didn't bother to answer. So now you can change anything you want and make me look bad (well, worse anyhow).

Really, you had a chance to avert this, it would have been as easy as responding to my FM saying "Why no, no one in Africa did this." But, too late now!
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| September 26, 2010, 4:33 pm
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Sporadic riots have occurred on the Morocco-Saharan border. The angry, worried, and confused denizens of border neighborhoods began attacking one other calling fowl play in part of their respective governments. It seems with W. Sahara formally its own state, the embers of ethnic tensions have been blown upon. Spanish Peacekeepers have been positioned in the area and will begin heavy patrols within the aggressive neighborhoods. If worse comes to worst, a COIN unit will be pressed into the area and utilize Martial Law.

Aside from that, the second ALDS unit is planned to finish construction tomorrow. The first aircraft will then follow action en suite by flying to the Joint Aerospace Command within Oceanic Africa. Again, the mission of this unit is to protect island interests from much larger missile munitions.

The second Type-4 is also looking quite fit for service. By the end of next week, we may have it up and running; hopefully anyhow. The first sub was tacked onto the travelling SRS Delegate and will complete another trial run. All-in-all, we should have a capable next generation submariner task unit soon.

Also, upgrades to some of the latter Mk.II and early Mk.III AMBTs are underway to make room for the upcoming Mk.IV AMBT. Although the adjustments are minor, France still takes pride its current MBT and the adaptability of said item. This variant has an upgraded APS and SDS, retracted turret, and a newer smoothbore cannon. The costs for this "new" fleet should be minimal granted the previous designs use a congruent chassis and similar turrets.

On note of the air defense and early warning detection systems, the upgrades go well. Completion is looking at a 37% mark with trial testing beginning. These more up-to-date kits will likely be worth much more than their costs. French, Italian, and Luxembourg defense ministries are also specifying interests in a land-mobile CIWS. Although the platform is expected to large, it should benefit the defense of overseas task forces [and even domestic protection] via a stable air defense network.

Still in the air category, the helicopter contract is looking spiffy. One company within the rather large VDS conglomerate is roughly half complete with the prototypical model. As it stands, the airframe is rather small but gains agility for this size reduction. If all goes well, ramped up production may begin in the latter portion of next month or the month after.

Finally, the portion of Ukraine purchased from the IRA will be ceded to Bohemia by Friday. Granted Moldova is technically secured, the time seems right to tie the nation to the sea. The civil morale boost should overshadow the governing nightmare of this jumble of territories.
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| September 26, 2010, 5:54 pm
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Quoting Brendan Dore
I never seem to read your comments unless they're shorter, for some reason...

So, you're telling me you don't read any of my comments? T-T
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| September 26, 2010, 5:58 pm
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Quoting Brendan Dore
They're really long...

Only because I have to highlight quite a few things within the diverse union of the ADCC. Can't say I blame you though. Most of what I type is merely domestic defense items, economic standings, and technological upgrades.
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| September 26, 2010, 6:01 pm
Quoting Brendan Dore
They're really long...

...which means, unless you're at war or planning on starting a war against said person, you pay absolutely no attention.
Right?
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| September 26, 2010, 6:02 pm
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Quoting Thomas N
Your aircraft carrier is done, where would you like it delivered?

Marseilles if you will. Much obliged.

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| September 26, 2010, 7:11 pm
The (newly named) TL-18 "Musaraña", has been placed into production, though it did not meet the low price standards it did surpass the quality which was expected from it. Some time in the next two months 23 units are expected to enter service, as soon as field testing against insurrectionists is finished. Variants for the TL-37 are currently being planned. Military production of MIT-01s and MTH-02s has been increased to possibly export.

Negotiations with Brazil have reached favorable conditions, though a final decision has not been made yet.
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| September 26, 2010, 7:35 pm
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I don't suppose we can arrange a peace treaty, but this war bores me and takes up my personal life. I know Nick will not stop until he controls Gober and I's countries. There's absolutely nowhere to go, so if you persist on ending the lives of millions worldwide, so be it.
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| September 26, 2010, 7:52 pm
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Quoting Ham N' Biscuits
I don't suppose we can arrange a peace treaty, but this war bores me and takes up my personal life. I know Nick will not stop until he controls Gober and I's countries. There's absolutely nowhere to go, so if you persist on ending the lives of millions worldwide, so be it.

/turns head.

"No. YOU MUST DIE!"
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| September 26, 2010, 7:55 pm
Villainy FTW
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| September 26, 2010, 8:18 pm
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Quoting Nick Shelton
/turns head.

"No. YOU MUST DIE!"


Longbox time it is then!

Oh and may we please skip tonight's report. I'm having troubles with flickr, sorry.
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| September 26, 2010, 8:22 pm
Algerian update!
-the labor force from the Congo has proved immensely helpful.
-we hope to double uranium production in a another week or so.
-the new artillery pieces are being placed along the Ocenae border, within a hundred miles of each other.
-we are requesting the same to be done in Chad.
-The Niger assault vehicle has been outfitted with rocket launchers, witch should enable it to successfully combat war chariots.
-the hydro electric dam nears the halfway point.
-SML sites are being replaced with SAMs
-Mali has calmed down
-war chariot attachment being considered for the Alger fast attack vehicle.
-SAM attachment is also being designed.
-Artillery research continues.
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| September 26, 2010, 8:30 pm
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Quoting Ham N' Biscuits

Longbox time it is then!

Oh and may we please skip tonight's report. I'm having troubles with flickr, sorry.


Email him plans?
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| September 26, 2010, 8:38 pm
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Quoting Thomas N

Of course! India figures the more the merrier.
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| September 26, 2010, 8:38 pm
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Quoting Awesome-o-saurus The Not-So-Great

Email him plans?


I don't have either of their emails.
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| September 26, 2010, 8:39 pm
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Quoting Ham N' Biscuits

By the way, were your 45,000 men in Africa Americans or colonial warriors overseen by a small number of Americans?

If overseen by a small number of Americans, India would like to return them to you. They'd only be a hindrance to us and an economic burden. We have no real desire to keep them.
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| September 26, 2010, 8:45 pm
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Quoting Ultramarine .
By the way, were your 45,000 men in Africa Americans or colonial warriors overseen by a small number of Americans?

If overseen by a small number of Americans, India would like to return them to you. They'd only be a hindrance to us and an economic burden. We have no real desire to keep them.


A mixture.

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| September 26, 2010, 8:47 pm
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Quoting Ham N' Biscuits

I don't have either of their emails.


You could ask. Like so:

Hey, Matt, Evan, would you accept an email from Ham regarding plans, and if so, can you give them to him?
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| September 26, 2010, 8:50 pm
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Quoting Ham N' Biscuits

A mixture.

Numbers would be very convenient at this point. You can have all of the Americans back now, but I need to know how many for cargo ships.
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| September 26, 2010, 8:53 pm
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Quoting Ultramarine .
Numbers would be very convenient at this point. You can have all of the Americans back now, but I need to know how many for cargo ships.


Around 32,000. We didn't really hold onto that territory for very long.
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| September 26, 2010, 8:55 pm
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Quoting Brendan Dore
Why does every war in this group end up unrealistically with peace?


I dunno, why did you pull out after one day? Cause we feel like it.
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| September 26, 2010, 9:01 pm
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Given that the Chinese seem to be restless, Greater Alenia has moved a large number of ZSU-23-4 "Shilka" quad AAA vehicles into sensitive areas. We've also kicked up our production of 23mm canister rounds a few notches.
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| September 26, 2010, 9:16 pm
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Quoting Evan Melick
Kinda confused, why can't he just FM them to us?


Flickr isn't working quite right for some reason.
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| September 26, 2010, 9:21 pm
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Alaska:
-PCU have continued to fortify their positions, and have committed further air support to the sector.
Texas:
-The same strike group that decimated Texan/Egyptian airfields yesterday were committed today to destroying factoris in the metropolitan areas of Dallas, Houston, El Paso, and Lewisville. The raids were largely successful, with the most trouble coming from stubborn AA in Houston.
-All PCU have been advised to go easier on Texans today after yesterday's mass arrests.
-PCU troops made an assault today on Denton, and were assisted by heavy CAS groups. These CAS flights did an effective job of clearing up enemy strongholds
SRGL:
-Sleeper units of unknown origin set charges on the second Great Lakes carrier (in the Great Lakes) . The vessel's propulsion system has been destroyed, though the sleeper units were caught, there is seemingly no connection between each other. The Carrier is now undergoing extensive repairs.
-Hyperfalcons using proper Egyptian IFFs, formations, and codes turned towards SRGL bases after finishing supposed bombing of the PCU, approached invisibly on radar, and destroyed several parked aircraft each. The damage was once again extensive.
-PCU forces dropped thousands of propaganda leaflettes on SRGL positions. These had a powerful effect after it showed their troops being abandoned in Africa, and pictures of those POWS being treated well by PCU forces. A few of the newest recruits have surrendered in various sectory.
-PCU pincer attack on SRGL forces at Newport News a huge success, thousands of SRGL forces are now cut off and surrounded.
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| September 26, 2010, 9:29 pm
What do you guys think about an armored truck going up against Cliffe's war chariots.
Armored truck (http://www.mocpages.com/moc.php/227106 http://www.flickr.com/photos/jake_h/5026878739/)
War Chariot (http://www.mocpages.com/moc.php/225482)
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| September 26, 2010, 9:35 pm
Quoting Matt Hacker

So Cliffe attacked Ham?
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| September 26, 2010, 9:38 pm
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Quoting Jake H.
So Cliffe attacked Ham?


I cannot reveal who the assailant is. All I am permitted to tell you is that they were using proper Egyptian IFFs, formations, and codes.
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| September 26, 2010, 9:40 pm
Quoting Jake H.
What do you guys think about an armored truck going up against Cliffe's war chariots.
Armored truck (http://www.mocpages.com/moc.php/227106 http://www.flickr.com/photos/jake_h/5026878739/)
War Chariot (http://www.mocpages.com/moc.php/225482)

Exactly why I built this. http://www.flickr.com/photos/50935584@N05/5013594174/
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| September 26, 2010, 9:46 pm
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Quoting Ham N' Biscuits

Around 32,000. We didn't really hold onto that territory for very long.

32 out of 45. I'll bet that a good majority of them fell into Russian hands, I can't say what he'll do with them. After processing, I had about 9,000 Americans and around 6,000 colonial troops. I'll keep them. A little re-education and they'll fight as good for me as they did for you.

I think I can spare three older freighters for them. Don't expect them for a good week in those tubs, though. Consider them en route now.
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| September 26, 2010, 9:48 pm
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Nick is a confused child. How could a super carrier fit in the Great Lakes and be practical? Not to mention, no shipyards there.
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| September 26, 2010, 9:51 pm
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Quoting Ultramarine .
32 out of 45. I'll bet that a good majority of them fell into Russian hands, I can't say what he'll do with them. After processing, I had about 9,000 Americans and around 6,000 colonial troops. I'll keep them. A little re-education and they'll fight as good for me as they did for you.

I think I can spare three older freighters for them. Don't expect them for a good week in those tubs, though. Consider them en route now.

Last combat report, I offered them a trip home for surrender. So I guess great minds think alike.
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| September 26, 2010, 9:56 pm
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Quoting Ham N' Biscuits
Nick is a confused child. How could a super carrier fit in the Great Lakes and be practical? Not to mention, no shipyards there.

Wasn't me.
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| September 26, 2010, 9:56 pm
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Quoting Jake H.
What do you guys think about an armored truck going up against Cliffe's war chariots.
Armored truck (http://www.mocpages.com/moc.php/227106 http://www.flickr.com/photos/jake_h/5026878739/)
War Chariot (http://www.mocpages.com/moc.php/225482)

But teh Warza Carroito is teh ausimists eva!
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| September 26, 2010, 9:57 pm
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Quoting Nick Shelton
Wasn't me.


Hmmm, I believe you.

Welcome to the SRGL, Areetsa. I have been expecting you.
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| September 26, 2010, 10:01 pm
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Quoting John Dawn
Last combat report, I offered them a trip home for surrender. So I guess great minds think alike.

Let's ship 'em to South America via computer control.
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| September 26, 2010, 10:04 pm
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Quoting Ultramarine .
Let's ship 'em to South America via computer control.

They can walk, and it'll probably be safer.
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| September 26, 2010, 10:16 pm
Quoting Henry Leopold III
Exactly why I built this. http://www.flickr.com/photos/50935584@N05/5013594174/

I think that could be used for a LOT more than destroying cars ;)
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| September 26, 2010, 10:20 pm
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Quoting Ham N' Biscuits

Hmmm, I believe you.

Welcome to the SRGL, Areetsa. I have been expecting you.

I don't have any carriers.
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| September 26, 2010, 10:23 pm
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Quoting Evan Melick
It's my belief anything with a halfway decent gun will be able to take out Cliffe's glorified buggies without much issue.


I support this.

Meanwhile in Nippon:

The Mongols have begun pillaging local industry, focusing on production centers. So far, no major damage has been inflicted, but this can change. With the change of course, the Japanese defenses prepared are now irrelevant. They're outnumbered and now outmaneuvered, kind of. No large-scale battles have occurred on the land, just light damages to either side through skirmishes.

In the sea, Finn's forces are being beaten badly by the much more experienced Japanese Navy. A third of the force has been heavily damaged, with several destroyers and cruisers being sunken. That hasn't stopped them from getting quite close to shore though.
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| September 26, 2010, 10:23 pm
Quoting Jake H.
I think that could be used for a LOT more than destroying cars ;)

Oh, it will be.
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| September 26, 2010, 10:25 pm
Quoting Evan Melick
It's my belief anything with a halfway decent gun will be able to take out Cliffe's glorified buggies without much issue.

Thank goodness you're the African combat moderator.
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| September 26, 2010, 10:28 pm
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Quoting Jake H.
Thank goodness you're the African combat moderator.

That's what I was thinking.
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| September 26, 2010, 10:31 pm
Quoting Awesome-o-saurus The Not-So-Great


Thank you Sir.
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| September 27, 2010, 12:10 am
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I lacked solid intel on where the other Carrier of Ham's was, I so i just went with the admitted assumption of the member who sent me the plans.
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| September 27, 2010, 8:08 am
poland is landlocked between two armys at this current time
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| September 27, 2010, 11:21 am
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Quoting Glenn Streeter
poland is landlocked between two armys at this current time

Nations, not armies.
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| September 27, 2010, 2:54 pm
Quoting John Dawn
Nations, not armies.
My mistake.

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| September 27, 2010, 3:07 pm
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Quoting John Dawn
Nations, not armies.

In this group, they're the same.

And if he's who I think he is, he's surrounded on all sides by four separate powers.

There's no way he'll be able to affect the balance of power in any way.


And it's not really a balance. It's more like a steep mountainside with the Villain Bloc on the top and everyone else in varying states of proximity-to-hard-and-pointy.
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| September 27, 2010, 5:06 pm
None of you have any idea what's going to happen to my enemies now.

Because I am... extremely discontented and disturbed.
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| September 27, 2010, 5:10 pm
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Quoting Kaiser Pharaoh Cliffe


I sense instabans in the very near future.
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| September 27, 2010, 5:19 pm
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Quoting Kaiser Pharaoh Cliffe
None of you have any idea what's going to happen to my enemies now.

Because I am... extremely discontented and disturbed.

Well that ain't good.
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| September 27, 2010, 5:19 pm
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Quoting Areetsa C
In this group, they're the same.

And if he's who I think he is, he's surrounded on all sides by four separate powers.

There's no way he'll be able to affect the balance of power in any way.


And it's not really a balance. It's more like a steep mountainside with the Villain Bloc on the top and everyone else in varying states of proximity-to-hard-and-pointy.

Maybe for you they are the same.
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| September 27, 2010, 5:27 pm
Quoting Kaiser Pharaoh Cliffe
None of you have any idea what's going to happen to my enemies now.

Because I am... extremely discontented and disturbed.

Dandy just dandy I'm landlocked between a very cross cliffe and 5 over armys
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| September 27, 2010, 5:35 pm
Quoting Brendan Dore
Trade, allies, and a large industrial capacity. That is the answer, my friend.

il keep it in mind thank
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| September 27, 2010, 5:49 pm
I'm willing to offer an aliance who would like one
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| September 27, 2010, 5:54 pm
Quoting Brendan Dore
Aaaannnddd proper grammar/ spelling. That would be greatly appreciated.

Sorry predictive text
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| September 27, 2010, 5:55 pm
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Quoting Brendan Dore
Aaaannnddd proper grammar/ spelling. That would be greatly appreciated.

Seconded.
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| September 27, 2010, 5:56 pm
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Quoting Kaiser Pharaoh Cliffe
None of you have any idea what's going to happen to my enemies now.

Because I am... extremely discontented and disturbed.

Well, if you'd stop inciting insurgencies, we would all get along a lot better.
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| September 27, 2010, 6:04 pm
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Quoting Thomas N
Ok. here is what you need to do.

First, learn a few things.

1. Most of us here are imperialists. That goes for me, Awe, Cliffe, Nick, and most everyone else.

2. The IIS, or International Industry Society, is a great organization. Members include most of western Europe, including Bohemia and the I.R.A., which border you on your south and west, respectively. Join this organization, and your economy will improve, and you might make friends with some of your bordering nations.

3. You are bordered by three nations. To your west is Cliffe, he is the creator and highest power in this group, and is currently annoyed with some people, but should have no quarrel with you. I discussed the I.R.A. and Bohemia before. and to your north you have the Lithuanian territory of The Netherlands, you have no reason to fear him, as he hasn't been very active and isn't known to be aggressive.

4. I am Tom, I run the Union of New Oceania, an empire centered around Australia, and am also a contributing member of the IIS. I am pleased that you have decided to embark on this journey, and will be glad to help if you are ever confused by the strange antics of us, the members of this group. If you ever have any questions, ask me.

5. The bleating lamb attracts the lion. If you're weak, the last thing you should do is draw attention to it.
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| September 27, 2010, 6:23 pm
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Quoting Glenn Streeter
Dandy just dandy I'm landlocked between a very cross cliffe and 5 over armys

For the right amount of promised future commerce, I (India) could offer you my protection for the first little bit until you get up & running. Or, you could ask to switch to Argentina or Brazil...
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| September 27, 2010, 6:23 pm
Quoting Ultramarine .
For the right amount of promised future commerce, I (India) could offer you my protection for the first little bit until you get up & running. Or, you could ask to switch to Argentina or Brazil...

Up and running option sound viable Thank you.
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| September 27, 2010, 6:29 pm
Quoting Brendan Dore
As can-No, wait, I'm losing a war.

I could Help but I need to make planes and a plan.
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| September 27, 2010, 6:33 pm
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Quoting Glenn Streeter
I could Help but I need to make planes and a plan.

No, you can't help, partly because he's on the other side of the world, partly because nothing you could produce so quickly would be able to fly that far and carry a meangful payload, but mostly because doing so would require overflying B.E.A.R. territory. The B.E.A.R. is also the organization currently invading Brendonia. That would put you, a new, vulnerable state, in a state of war with the Brotherhood, which still has fairly reasonable relations with the IRA who border you. Believe me, if you'd seen our track record, you really wouldn't want to cause any sort of aggravation.


Now, this isn't a threat; think of it as a well intentioned warning. At this point, the last thing you want to do is get involved in a war.
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| September 27, 2010, 6:40 pm
Quoting Areetsa C
No, you can't help, partly because he's on the other side of the world, partly because nothing you could produce so quickly would be able to fly that far and carry a meangful payload, but mostly because doing so would require overflying B.E.A.R. territory. The B.E.A.R. is also the organization currently invading Brendonia. That would put you, a new, vulnerable state, in a state of war with the Brotherhood, which still has fairly reasonable relations with the IRA who border you. Believe me, if you'd seen our track record, you really wouldn't want to cause any sort of aggravation.


Now, this isn't a threat; think of it as a well intentioned warning. At this point, the last thing you want to do is get involved in a war.

Ok I take your advice
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| September 27, 2010, 6:43 pm
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Quoting Brendan Dore
Why haven't you declared war on me yet?

Partly because my navy is currently being pursued by cryptid hunters, partly because I know better than to wage an unsupported air campaign, and partly because I have a policy of not getting involved in wars that won't provide enough plunder to compensate for the losses and expenses sustained.
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| September 27, 2010, 6:47 pm
Quoting Brendan Dore
Because I had another war to tend to.

/looks at John and Finn

>.>

/turns head

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| September 27, 2010, 6:49 pm
I'm just going to prepare my defence as best as I can I'm already planing a field gun
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| September 27, 2010, 6:49 pm
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Quoting Glenn Streeter
I'm just going to prepare my defence as best as I can I'm already planing a field gun

You'd be better off with self propelled vehicles. They can move a lot quicker, get set up a lot quicker and they carry their own ammunition with them.

You don't actually have to build the thing, either; quite a few people are using old Soviet artillery to save costs. It's everywhere.
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| September 27, 2010, 6:52 pm
Quoting Areetsa C
Partly because my navy is currently being pursued by cryptid hunters, partly because I know better than to wage an unsupported air campaign, and partly because I have a policy of not getting involved in wars that won't provide enough plunder to compensate for the losses and expenses sustained.

Cryptid?
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| September 27, 2010, 6:54 pm
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The IRA and AMA would proudly like to introduce the R/A- 927 strategic assault bomber.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/50935584@N05/5030541023/in/contacts/
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| September 27, 2010, 6:54 pm
Quoting Areetsa C
You'd be better off with self propelled vehicles. They can move a lot quicker, get set up a lot quicker and they carry their own ammunition with them.

You don't actually have to build the thing, either; quite a few people are using old Soviet artillery to save costs. It's everywhere.
Well the field
Gun itself Is based of the old PAK30 gun but il try a selfpropeled
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| September 27, 2010, 6:56 pm
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Quoting Kaiser Pharaoh Cliffe
None of you have any idea what's going to happen to my enemies now.

Because I am... extremely discontented and disturbed.

Welcome to the PCU, my friend.
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| September 27, 2010, 6:56 pm
Quoting Brendan Dore

You may destroy my Navy, but I still have my Airforce and Army. I think I need your gold banks...

>.>

/hopes my attack force doesn't sink
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| September 27, 2010, 6:56 pm
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Quoting Glenn Streeter


Dont worry about Areetsa'C he makes lots of threats, and rarely acts upon them. As for the rest of the world- if you don't make enemies, usually people wont attack.
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| September 27, 2010, 6:59 pm
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Quoting Finn C-Q
Cryptid?

Animals that haven't been proven to exist or be myths by science. Bigfoot, Nessie, Yeti, Bunyips, Kraken, Bergman's Bear, that sort of thing.
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| September 27, 2010, 7:00 pm
Quoting Areetsa C
Animals that haven't been proven to exist or be myths by science. Bigfoot, Nessie, Yeti, Bunyips, Kraken, Bergman's Bear, that sort of thing.

And why are they chasing you? Or are you chasing them?
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| September 27, 2010, 7:02 pm
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Quoting Glenn Streeter
Well the field Gun itself Is based of the old PAK30 gun but il try a selfpropeled

Isn't that WWII era? That'd make it about 95 years old. A little outdated, methinks.

Quoting Matt Hacker
Dont worry about Areetsa'C he makes lots of threats, and rarely acts upon them. As for the rest of the world- if you don't make enemies, usually people wont attack.

I don't threaten. If I were to make threats, it'd mean my army was already poised to invade.
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| September 27, 2010, 7:03 pm
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Quoting Areetsa C
Isn't that WWII era? That'd make it about 95 years old. A little outdated, methinks.

The M2 Machine Gun was invented around WWI, and it's still in use today by the PCU.
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| September 27, 2010, 7:04 pm
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Quoting Finn C-Q
And why are they chasing you? Or are you chasing them?

The cryptid hunters, that is, people who try to prove Bigfoot and others like it exist, are hunting after my navy in an attempt to prove to the scientific community that the navy of Greater Alenia isn't just a myth.

They're not exactly succeeding, but as you'd expect from conspiracy theorists that just proves to them that it's not only large and dangerous but cunningly hidden.
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| September 27, 2010, 7:05 pm
Quoting Areetsa C
The cryptid hunters, that is, people who try to prove Bigfoot and others like it exist, are hunting after my navy in an attempt to prove to the scientific community that the navy of Greater Alenia isn't just a myth.

They're not exactly succeeding, but as you'd expect from conspiracy theorists that just proves to them that it's not only large and dangerous but cunningly hidden.

Sorta like those people that hunt after the US seacet military stuff?
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| September 27, 2010, 7:06 pm
Quoting Ultramarine .
Well, if you'd stop inciting insurgencies, we would all get along a lot better.

I DID NOT DO THAT!

That was most certainly Ham. I don't incite insurgencies. I'm chivalrous, remember?

I would really wish you would stop sending aid to Africa.

In fact, if it weren't for the fact that the Africans are insuIting my capability and receiving help from you, I would have already offered a peace treaty and forced removal of Osea from its colonies- I've realized they really don't need them at all.

Then again, neither does Algeria or the USCA, which would almost certainly invade Libya and/or Tunisia immediately after Osea leaves.
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| September 27, 2010, 7:08 pm
Quoting Areetsa C
Isn't that WWII era? That'd make it about 95 years old. A little outdated, methinks.

Meh it makes no different to me its still an anti tank gun

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| September 27, 2010, 7:09 pm
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Quoting Nick Shelton
The M2 Machine Gun was invented around WWI, and it's still in use today by the PCU.

Only because the PCU is too cheap to upgrade it. I've got some KPV superheavy machineguns I could sell you if you feel like upgrading; they can kill people out to 2000 metres.

14.5mm ammunition; not quite in the same class as 14mm Alenian, but still pretty impressive. Much bigger than that sissy 12.7mm Browning.
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| September 27, 2010, 7:10 pm
The Kaiser (Friedrich Wilhelm V, not me) and I assure Poland no harm will come to them, for we feel very bad already about the fact that they are currently landlocked thanks to us. We will gladly form an alliance with you. Welcome to the 21st Century, and be careful. You just happened to jump in during the middle of WWIII.
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| September 27, 2010, 7:12 pm
Quoting Brendan Dore
Too bad you don't have any planes built. :P

I do. You can't deny it!
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| September 27, 2010, 7:13 pm
Quoting Kaiser Pharaoh Cliffe
The Kaiser (Friedrich Wilhelm V, not me) and I assure Poland no harm will come to them, for we feel very bad already about the fact that they are currently landlocked thanks to us. We will gladly form an alliance with you. Welcome to the 21st Century, and be careful. You just happened to jump in during the middle of WWIII.
thank you sir and what is your opinon on the ww2 PAK30 gun its fine is it not

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| September 27, 2010, 7:14 pm
Quoting Kaiser Pharaoh Cliffe
You just happened to jump in during the middle of WWIII.

/Fires firecracker
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| September 27, 2010, 7:14 pm
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Quoting Kaiser Pharaoh Cliffe
I DID NOT DO THAT!

That was most certainly Ham. I don't incite insurgencies. I'm chivalrous, remember?

...

I've realized they really don't need them at all.


Yea, chivalrous. I'm chivalrous too. While you were gone, I didn't mess with your forces for my buddies. In fact, I didn't know what to do at all, so I really didn't do anything with your guys.

And you don't need Osea at all? Betraying your homebois again, chivalrous.

Or is it another plot?
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| September 27, 2010, 7:15 pm
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Quoting Finn C-Q
Sorta like those people that hunt after the US seacet military stuff?

Sorta, except in this case what they're hunting for doesn't actually exist. Not that they'd admit it if they knew.

Quoting Glenn Streeter
Meh it makes no different to me its still an anti tank gun

It does make a difference, actually; modern tanks are infinitely better armoured than WWII ones. What an MBT can shrug off would spatter a Panther all over the landscape. They're very tough, certainly tough enough to ignore even 88mm shells. 105mm is pretty much the minimum one can shoot at a tank and expect it to penetrate the armour.
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| September 27, 2010, 7:15 pm
Quoting Areetsa C
Sorta, except in this case what they're hunting for doesn't actually exist. Not that they'd admit it if they knew.

Quoting Glenn Streeter
Meh it makes no different to me its still an anti tank gun

It does make a difference, actually; modern tanks are infinitely better armoured than WWII ones. What an MBT can shrug off would spatter a Panther all over the landscape. They're very tough, certainly tough enough to ignore even 88mm shells. 105mm is pretty much the minimum one can shoot at a tank and expect it to penetrate the armour.
well i am going to tweak it a bit

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| September 27, 2010, 7:18 pm
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Quoting Glenn Streeter
well i am going to tweak it a bit

Actually, from what I can find, there IS no PAK 30. There's a PAK 36, but it's a 37mm. That couldn't reliably kill an APC, tweaked or not.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Bundesarchiv_Bild_101I-299-1831-26,_Nordfrankreich,_Soldaten_mit_Gesch%C3%BCtz.jpg

There is a Flak 30, but that's even less suited.
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| September 27, 2010, 7:22 pm
Methinksitstimeforaupdate!

-280 Tpc-7s have been completed and 70 are being outfitted for AA and Anti-Chariot warfare.
-110 Tpcs and 30 ATs are being shipped to the USCA.
-Ambassadors are being sent over to Uruguay and Argentina to try and get support in South America.
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| September 27, 2010, 7:24 pm
It has come to me to see Matt Hacker to be possibly unfit as a Combat Moderator.

This is due to a highly likely bias against Prusso-Egypt. Matt, I know for a fact that you don't like Prusso-Egypt, largely due to your sense of hyper-realism, plus your support of the African nations and the PCU.

The latest combat reports just haven't been adding up. It seems to me like you're just playing rock-paper-scissors in your CRs; "X number of Ys attacked R number of Zs. K number of Zs were lost, but D number of Ys were lost as well. The end." Also, I don't at all understand how 38 foreign-flown Hyperfalcons could eliminate 50 of my Hyperfalcons. It should be pretty easy to realize that my Hyperfalcon pilots have something you might call expierience, and that the enemy certainly has no expierience and almost no training with Hyperfalcons. My Hyperfalcons should easily be able to defeat the others.

Plus, they wouldn't even have the element of surprise. Our AWACS would detect them as bogeys immediately, or, if proper Egyptian IFFs were displayed, they would be questioned over the radio. Ancient Egyptian is a formerly dead language- I'm not too sure as to how it might have been incorporated into the enemy's foreign language education programs.
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| September 27, 2010, 7:26 pm
Quoting Awesome-o-saurus The Not-So-Great

Yea, chivalrous. I'm chivalrous too. While you were gone, I didn't mess with your forces for my buddies. In fact, I didn't know what to do at all, so I really didn't do anything with your guys.

And you don't need Osea at all? Betraying your homebois again, chivalrous.

Or is it another plot?

I said I've realized that Osea doesn't need Libya and Tunisia. I don't know what I'd do without Weagle, he has the world's best air force, and he's been my ally since the very beginning! I will never, ever turn my back on him. Ever.
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| September 27, 2010, 7:27 pm
News:for the greater empire of Poland due to recent reports the PAK37 will be upgraded to the PAK45
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| September 27, 2010, 7:30 pm
Quoting Kaiser Pharaoh Cliffe
WWIII.

That term is thrown around a lot here. Ian and I nearly started it in China, people were calling Africa that, but it hasn't quite devolved to that state yet.
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| September 27, 2010, 7:32 pm
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Civ 5 Monday night party time. Oh yeah, 600+KB/second and it still takes forever to download.
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| September 27, 2010, 7:35 pm
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Quoting Kaiser Pharaoh Cliffe
It has come to me to see Matt Hacker to be possibly unfit as a Combat Moderator.



He said that the mystery planes had the signals and ID codes and whatnot. Most of the time, you can't see a plane before it's close enough to attack. I doubt actual Hyperfalcons attacked. But you do bring up a point about the radio. Maybe they had a computerized voice, or they only knew enough to respond to hails?
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| September 27, 2010, 7:39 pm
Quoting Glenn Streeter
Quoting Kaiser Pharaoh Cliffe
The Kaiser (Friedrich Wilhelm V, not me) and I assure Poland no harm will come to them, for we feel very bad already about the fact that they are currently landlocked thanks to us. We will gladly form an alliance with you. Welcome to the 21st Century, and be careful. You just happened to jump in during the middle of WWIII.
thank you sir and what is your opinon on the ww2 PAK30 gun its fine is it not

I don't know about the PaK 30, but I love the PaK 36, which I've served on (I'm a WWII reenactor :D). Wonderful infantry support gun, but the 75mm IG 18 is even better!
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| September 27, 2010, 7:40 pm
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Le gasp! We have a mystery on our hands gang.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rhinKuP5Eiw
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| September 27, 2010, 7:44 pm
Quoting John Moffatt
That term is thrown around a lot here. Ian and I nearly started it in China, people were calling Africa that, but it hasn't quite devolved to that state yet.

Let's see...

European Theatre- just me against Switzerland for now.

African Theatre- India v.s. SRGL, me v.s. USCA

Pacific Theatre- Japan v.s. B.E.A.R.

North American Theatre- Me v.s. PCU, Texas v.s. PCU, SRGL v.s. PCU

Three theatres of war. If that's not a world war, I don't have a clue what is.
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| September 27, 2010, 7:45 pm
I suppose, but I consider it a world war more of when the fighting is all kind of.... linked, for lack of a better word.
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| September 27, 2010, 7:47 pm
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Quoting Kaiser Pharaoh Cliffe


Listen Cliffe. If I had bias against you I would have just blown up your air force day 1, had your buddies die a week ago, and then made all of your prior airstrikes to fail. If you want to kick me out because of one combat report do it. It should be noted that while you were gone I did not recieve any FMs from Awe, and you know that I value fresh plans highly. Besides, if you have such a superior air force in quality and numbers, what should a hundred fighters/ bombers lost mean? Insignificant.
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| September 27, 2010, 7:47 pm
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Quoting Kaiser Pharaoh Cliffe
I don't know about the PaK 30, but I love the PaK 36, which I've served on (I'm a WWII reenactor :D). Wonderful infantry support gun, but the 75mm IG 18 is even better!

He wants to use it for tank killing.
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| September 27, 2010, 7:48 pm
Quoting Kaiser Pharaoh Cliffe
Let's see...

European Theatre- just me against Switzerland for now.

African Theatre- India v.s. SRGL, me v.s. USCA

Pacific Theatre- Japan v.s. B.E.A.R.

North American Theatre- Me v.s. PCU, Texas v.s. PCU, SRGL v.s. PCU

Three theatres of war. If that's not a world war, I don't have a clue what is.
Should I help you on the switerland theatre

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| September 27, 2010, 7:50 pm
Quoting Areetsa C
He wants to use it for tank killing.

Nah I'm trying to uppgrad the 90 year old pak 36 and make it into the pak 45 that's a tank killer
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| September 27, 2010, 7:52 pm
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Quoting Glenn Streeter
Nah I'm trying to uppgrad the 90 year old pak 36 and make it into the pak 45 that's a tank killer

It'd be much simpler to take an existing gun, like the Rheinmetall 105mm, which is already proven to be able to kill tanks, and build a tank destroyer around it. Or, I daresay, find someone with some spare tanks and buy 'em. France, perhaps.
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| September 27, 2010, 8:00 pm
Quoting Brendan Dore
Link pl0x.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soviet_Airforce
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| September 27, 2010, 8:11 pm
Quoting Matt Hacker

Listen Cliffe. If I had bias against you I would have just blown up your air force day 1, had your buddies die a week ago, and then made all of your prior airstrikes to fail. If you want to kick me out because of one combat report do it. It should be noted that while you were gone I did not recieve any FMs from Awe, and you know that I value fresh plans highly. Besides, if you have such a superior air force in quality and numbers, what should a hundred fighters/ bombers lost mean? Insignificant.

Ah, you have passed the test. Most excellent.

Sorry about that, I was really just questioning you to clear things up, really.

But dude... you must have no idea how much aircraft cost, and how few of them nations really have. Especially high-quality aircraft. Also, you must have no idea how the ART of dogfighting effects all of this- or maybe that's just me. I don't know.

So please forgive me, I was just worried.
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| September 27, 2010, 8:12 pm
Quoting Areetsa C
Sorta, except in this case what they're hunting for doesn't actually exist. Not that they'd admit it if they knew.

Yes, after what you said
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| September 27, 2010, 8:16 pm
Quoting Glenn Streeter
Nah I'm trying to uppgrad the 90 year old pak 36 and make it into the pak 45 that's a tank killer

I say to many, missiles are the way of the future. Of course, guns are great too, especially for defense/ambush/PaK FRONTS!!! :D As far as towed/stationary anti-armor artillery goes, Areetsa would be mostly right. However I recommend a mobile assault gun, or even a missile-capable recoilless rifle like I use.
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| September 27, 2010, 8:34 pm
Quoting Glenn Streeter
I'm willing to offer an aliance who would like one

Algeria is more than willing, I need some allies in Europe.
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| September 27, 2010, 8:47 pm
Quoting Areetsa C
It'd be much simpler to take an existing gun, like the Rheinmetall 105mm, which is already proven to be able to kill tanks, and build a tank destroyer around it. Or, I daresay, find someone with some spare tanks and buy 'em. France, perhaps.

I have a field gun that launches 120mm shells at the enemy that I'd be willing to sell too.
It's kind of expensive though because you're launching shells that have had a rocket wielded to the back of them.
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| September 27, 2010, 8:56 pm
Quoting Kaiser Pharaoh Cliffe
I DID NOT DO THAT!

That was most certainly Ham. I don't incite insurgencies. I'm chivalrous, remember?

I would really wish you would stop sending aid to Africa.

In fact, if it weren't for the fact that the Africans are insuIting my capability and receiving help from you, I would have already offered a peace treaty and forced removal of Osea from its colonies- I've realized they really don't need them at all.

Then again, neither does Algeria or the USCA, which would almost certainly invade Libya and/or Tunisia immediately after Osea leaves.

I'm considering invading you! Your power and chivalrous attitude annoys me.
>.>
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| September 27, 2010, 8:59 pm
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Please, Matt gimme some more time. I was at soccer practice from the time school ended until just now.
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| September 27, 2010, 9:08 pm
yes plz.
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