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That sure did fill up faster than I expected. Ima just say that 100+ posts equals new thing.

-World War Three.
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| September 28, 2010, 9:26 pm
Cliffe's yelling sped it up significantly.
so did world war III
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| September 28, 2010, 9:28 pm
My post has gained lots of praise
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| September 28, 2010, 9:49 pm
Gee, this is getting pretty interesting.

Have fun!
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| September 28, 2010, 9:59 pm
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Quoting Thomas N
The way I see it, Cliffe and Avalella/Jake H./King Henry Leopold II/Brikkr are all on rampages of sheer self-righteousness.

Here's an idea, if both of you don't want Libya to fall into the hands of the other, why not just kick Osea out (like cliffe suggested earlier) and then, all involved countries can become equal protectors of it (as a sovereign territory) until a new member wants to take it?

Crikey, you people get all worked up over the most ridiculous things.

That'd ruin all my fun though!
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| September 28, 2010, 10:04 pm
@Poland - Best of luck to you. I don't mean this as a threat, but in past wars people have had a habit of marching through you.
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| September 28, 2010, 10:10 pm
Quoting Nick Shelton
That'd ruin all my fun though!

inorite?
I'm fine with anything really, I just want two things.
A Cliffe to stop being so chivalrous and powerful at the same time (it's not fair :P )
B Osea out of Africa

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| September 28, 2010, 10:11 pm
Quoting John Moffatt
@Poland - Best of luck to you. I don't mean this as a threat, but in past wars people have had a habit of marching through you.

I don't think that'll happen, he's made some friends in high places extremely quickly, so unless the war escalates and he's forgotten he should be OK.
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| September 28, 2010, 10:13 pm
I'm sure he'll be fine, I've just noticed this in history class
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| September 28, 2010, 10:21 pm
Quoting John Moffatt
I'm sure he'll be fine, I've just noticed this in history class

I don't want to sound stalker-ish, but how old are you? I was assuming around 24 but if you're still in high school...
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| September 28, 2010, 10:51 pm
15, nearing 16.
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| September 28, 2010, 10:54 pm
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You know, twice before I nearly went to war over something that could have been averted. Thankfully, I was won over by diplomatic efforts, which meant I swallowed a bit of my pride; admitting I was wrong along the way a few times.

Long & short of it: Thomas is right. We need to figure out a diplomatic solution, now.

Cliffe, I have no idea why you're so against admitting you might be wrong and fixing this. There is a solution other than blowing everyone to kingdom come!

For my part, I'm sorry, but you did back an enemy that bragged about killing innocent Indian civilians.

Let's work this out, people!!!


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| September 28, 2010, 10:57 pm
Negotiations with Brazil have reached some hostilities, though at the moment nothing too serious. On the other hand Panama has expressed disconcert on these negotiations with Brazil, acussing us of being "megalomaniatic imperialists" and have moved several tanks on the border within Colombian territory as a declaration of war.

As a response the convoy was bombed by the newly introduced FAC/C-35s, in the strike one C-35 was lost due to remaining AA fire. The convoy was neutralized before it could do any real harm. Though MTH-02s have been sent to search for survivors. Brazil has remained neutral in this conflict.

The surplus of MTH-02s and MIT-01s orignally intended to be sold, are being pushed into service. Hopefully a few will be able to be kept away from service, and eventually sold. A significant portion of the first batch of TL-18s are going to be introduced into service as soon as possible.
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| September 28, 2010, 10:57 pm
Well that explains why Evan's parents didn't find it odd that you were hanging out with him to build with LEGO. It also clears up a lot of other things...except your amazing builds and maturity/wittiness.
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| September 28, 2010, 10:59 pm
Quoting Ultramarine .
You know, twice before I nearly went to war over something that could have been averted. Thankfully, I was won over by diplomatic efforts, which meant I swallowed a bit of my pride; admitting I was wrong along the way a few times.

Long & short of it: Thomas is right. We need to figure out a diplomatic solution, now.

Cliffe, I have no idea why you're so against admitting you might be wrong and fixing this. There is a solution other than blowing everyone to kingdom come!

For my part, I'm sorry, but you did back an enemy that bragged about killing innocent Indian civilians.

Let's work this out, people!!!


Well I've listed what I and the rest of the AMA want. Avella would probably be fine with what I want plus some reimbursement.
So it's really up to Cliffe. I think we'll always clash while playing this game, because of the way we govern our nations, and the fact that we're both mildly stubborn, but a war might still be avoided.
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| September 28, 2010, 11:04 pm
Quoting Jake H.
Well that explains why Evan's parents didn't find it odd that you were hanging out with him to build with LEGO. It also clears up a lot of other things...except your amazing builds and maturity/wittiness.

Heh. Maturity and wittiness? Now THAT's funny. Actually, I'm the young one in our group of 3. Ian and Evan are almost a year older than me
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| September 28, 2010, 11:06 pm
Quoting Ultramarine .
You know, twice before I nearly went to war over something that could have been averted. Thankfully, I was won over by diplomatic efforts, which meant I swallowed a bit of my pride; admitting I was wrong along the way a few times.

Long & short of it: Thomas is right. We need to figure out a diplomatic solution, now.

Cliffe, I have no idea why you're so against admitting you might be wrong and fixing this. There is a solution other than blowing everyone to kingdom come!

For my part, I'm sorry, but you did back an enemy that bragged about killing innocent Indian civilians.

Let's work this out, people!!!


I agree, this business in Africa is giving me a migraine. The Nubians are nearly revolting (they don't like the sound of attacking their African brothers), and a lot of good Egyptians are getting killed.

Plus, at least the Africans have now admitted I am both powerful and chivalrous, so now I feel great.

But I have to hand it to y'all, you African nations make probably the best alliance I've ever seen in my life. Yes, better than B.E.A.R. By far. Your teamwork is just beautiful. I do wish to be allies with y'all soon.

So, can we agree on the proposed terms over Libya?
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| September 28, 2010, 11:07 pm
Avella's going to want some reimbursement, so that will have to be taken care off.
If Ocea withdraws from Africa, everybody else should be happy.
I can't speak for the whole group, but if those two things happen, we should be happy.
Libya and Tunisia could momentarily become territories protected by both the AMA and Egypt for _____ amount of time.
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| September 28, 2010, 11:12 pm
Quoting John Moffatt
Heh. Maturity and wittiness? Now THAT's funny. Actually, I'm the young one in our group of 3. Ian and Evan are almost a year older than me

You see? It's those witty AFOL-like comments that make you seem older.
Evan and Ian are mature too, but they don't come off as AFOLs when you read through their comments.

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| September 28, 2010, 11:15 pm
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Quoting John Moffatt
15, nearing 16.

Still not there? Even I hit the latter mark a few months ago; age you fiend!
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| September 28, 2010, 11:19 pm
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Quoting Kaiser Pharaoh Cliffe
I agree, this business in Africa is giving me a migraine. The Nubians are nearly revolting (they don't like the sound of attacking their African brothers), and a lot of good Egyptians are getting killed.

Plus, at least the Africans have now admitted I am both powerful and chivalrous, so now I feel great.

But I have to hand it to y'all, you African nations make probably the best alliance I've ever seen in my life. Yes, better than B.E.A.R. By far. Your teamwork is just beautiful. I do wish to be allies with y'all soon.

So, can we agree on the proposed terms over Libya?

See there? We can work this out. I'm good with the group decision, so whatever is worked out is fine.
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| September 28, 2010, 11:20 pm
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Quoting Dr. Spontaneous
Still not there? Even I hit the latter mark a few months ago; age you fiend!

Ha, you kids. I'm probably the oldest one here at 22.
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| September 28, 2010, 11:22 pm
Quoting Ultramarine .
Ha, you kids. I'm probably the oldest one here at 22.

orly?
I'm behind by about ten years then.
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| September 28, 2010, 11:27 pm
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Quoting Jake H.
orly?
I'm behind by about ten years then.

Better hustle up.
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| September 28, 2010, 11:30 pm
I fully intend to still build at 22
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| September 28, 2010, 11:36 pm
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Quoting John Moffatt
I fully intend to still build at 22

One of these days I might actually have my own LEGO blog...

Or wind up in a mess like Kelso or Phipson.
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| September 28, 2010, 11:39 pm
Anybody who's up at 11:40 talking to people over the internet about LEGO probably should be in it for the long run...
Speaking of 11:40, I should probably get to bed.
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| September 28, 2010, 11:40 pm
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Quoting Jake H.
Anybody who's up at 11:40 talking to people over the internet about LEGO probably should be in it for the long run...
Speaking of 11:40, I should probably get to bed.

It's still before 10 here.
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| September 28, 2010, 11:43 pm
10:01
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| September 29, 2010, 12:00 am
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Quoting Kaiser Pharaoh Cliffe
But I have to hand it to y'all, you African nations make probably the best alliance I've ever seen in my life. Yes, better than B.E.A.R. By far. Your teamwork is just beautiful. I do wish to be allies with y'all soon.

You have no idea how unwieldy Russia scale armies are. There's no way you understand the sort of difficulty involved in hitting the same guy with four armies at once. Particularly since we all have so much territory. It's so hard to find someone we all share a border with so we can invade.

What we need is a proper european war, with no 'ooh, sorry, I can't fight you's and no inconvenient withdrawls. Just a simple 1st world knock down, drag out war of annihilation.

Speaking of which, how much territory does Cole have left? Since someone's goaded his ex citizens into fighting for him, we may as well finish him off.
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| September 29, 2010, 12:01 am
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Quoting Areetsa C
It's so hard to find someone we all share a border with so we can invade.

Oh...my. Please, no.
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| September 29, 2010, 12:03 am
S'okay. I for one have no problems with you.
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| September 29, 2010, 12:05 am
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Quoting Ultramarine .
Oh...my. Please, no.

Well not you obviously, but still: the only thing we all share a border with is the ocean. Not even that, in Mongolia's case.

Evan said he'd get unhappy if I invaded Atlantis. Ry'leh is in the Pacific, so we can't get that either.

There's just no viable invasion land any more.

The problem is that Cliffe and Dawn're between us and the ISS? IFFS? Whatever they call themselves. The 'good guys'.
There's Iran, but oh, nope, there's Cliffe again, blocking the way to the other half of their territory.

Nowhere to go for a good war unless you want to putter half way across the planet on a couple of glorified tramp steamers.


What we really need is some James Bond style supervillains to do interesting supervillainly things.

I still say we should invade Mars and have some wars over there.
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| September 29, 2010, 12:44 am
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I die for 36 hours and everyone's calmed down? Angst.
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| September 29, 2010, 12:27 pm
Quoting John Moffatt
Hello. Where are you?

well im poland and im here and what did you want?.
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| September 29, 2010, 12:47 pm
Quoting Kaiser Pharaoh Cliffe
I agree, this business in Africa is giving me a migraine. The Nubians are nearly revolting (they don't like the sound of attacking their African brothers), and a lot of good Egyptians are getting killed.

Plus, at least the Africans have now admitted I am both powerful and chivalrous, so now I feel great.

But I have to hand it to y'all, you African nations make probably the best alliance I've ever seen in my life. Yes, better than B.E.A.R. By far. Your teamwork is just beautiful. I do wish to be allies with y'all soon.

So, can we agree on the proposed terms over Libya?
how should we discuss the switzerland front

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| September 29, 2010, 12:49 pm
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Quoting Thomas N


Of course, with that, I guess I should try to explain my perpetual neutrality. I've always tried to keep a cool head and open mind when dealing with others, whether it be Cliffe, BEAR, PCU, Europa, Africa, or anyone else. I try to maintain smooth relationships with everybody.


You! You did this! I name you, forever, the destroyer of destruction!

Davros moment aside, you do realize that the peaks of fun in this group happen during the wars? If you keep instigating peace, nothing is ever gonna happen.

And that's no good.

I propose another solution: Don't listen to Tom N and keep fighting.
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| September 29, 2010, 4:26 pm
Quoting Areetsa C



What we really need is some James Bond style supervillains to do interesting supervillainly things.

I still say we should invade Mars and have some wars over there.

Hhhhmm I have a scheme in the making, but it would land me in a load of trouble.
>.>
<.<
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| September 29, 2010, 4:30 pm
Quoting Ultramarine .
Ha, you kids. I'm probably the oldest one here at 22.

D8

NO WAY
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| September 29, 2010, 4:31 pm
Quoting Kaiser Pharaoh Cliffe
D8

NO WAY
sir how are gonna plan the switzerland front of action

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| September 29, 2010, 4:32 pm
Quoting Awesome-o-saurus The Not-So-Great

You! You did this! I name you, forever, the destroyer of destruction!

Davros moment aside, you do realize that the peaks of fun in this group happen during the wars? If you keep instigating peace, nothing is ever gonna happen.

And that's no good.

I propose another solution: Don't listen to Tom N and keep fighting.

Wars in Africa are boring, half the time we're discussing economic issues. I say we do something in Europe.
Then fight in South America, North America, Africa, and Japan.
Maybe if B. E. A. R. broke up...
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| September 29, 2010, 4:33 pm
Quoting Areetsa C
I still say we should invade Mars and have some wars over there.

Some time in the future when people don't whine about space stuff simply because they're bored, I'm totally up for that.
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| September 29, 2010, 4:34 pm
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Quoting Jake H.
Wars in Africa are boring, half the time we're discussing economic issues. I say we do something in Europe.
Then fight in South America, North America, Africa, and Japan.
Maybe if B. E. A. R. broke up...


Well, at least we have Nick's war...
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| September 29, 2010, 4:35 pm
Once Africa and South America have built up their infra structure, do it before, and we'll be left so far behind...
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| September 29, 2010, 4:35 pm
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Quoting Kaiser Pharaoh Cliffe
Some time in the future when people don't whine about space stuff simply because they're bored, I'm totally up for that.


If you made a 22nd century world group, it'd be a little more plausible. If you made a 23rd century group, it'd be very plausible, but then the COP would invade in 2240 and ruin all your infighting fun.
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| September 29, 2010, 4:37 pm
Quoting Glenn Streeter
Quoting Kaiser Pharaoh Cliffe
D8

NO WAY
sir how are gonna plan the switzerland front of action

Oh sorry, been getting out of hand.

Well... let me think for a minute...

I don't know, all we're really doing right now is occupying the land north of the Alps trying to avoid insurgents.

If you have a special counter-insurgency unit of some sort, that's what I would need.
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| September 29, 2010, 4:37 pm
Quoting Awesome-o-saurus The Not-So-Great

If you made a 22nd century world group, it'd be a little more plausible. If you made a 23rd century group, it'd be very plausible, but then the COP would invade in 2240 and ruin all your infighting fun.

We could start colonizing Mars in the next group. By then it would be with a decade or so of the 22nd century.
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| September 29, 2010, 4:39 pm
Quoting Kaiser Pharaoh Cliffe
Oh sorry, been getting out of hand.

Well... let me think for a minute...

I don't know, all we're really doing right now is occupying the land north of the Alps trying to avoid insurgents.

If you have a special counter-insurgency unit of some sort, that's what I would need.
well my anti armour/infantry sqaud with pak 45's and recoilless weapon 32s should give you a lot of support
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| September 29, 2010, 4:39 pm
Algeria is proud top announce it's new TAM War Chariot (http://www.flickr.com/photos/jake_h/5037359088/)
and SMART Artillery Piece (http://www.flickr.com/photos/jake_h/5023276624/in/photostream/)
The SML has now been deemed obsolete and the factories we are currently using to produce them are going to be keyed to build the new TAM War Chariots.
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| September 29, 2010, 5:08 pm
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War report for yesterday and today. I had meant to post this a good half an hour earlier, but I got distracted by Wikipedia.

>.>

The Japanese, delay due to me being a bad combat mod, have finally attacked the Mongol forces in Japan. They're being attacked from the north and south, taking several hundred losses in the past day or so.

In yonder sea, Finn ships have been defeated after a large battle. However, it came at a heavy cost to the Japanese. A good number of cruisers and destroyers were heavily damaged by a last-ditch Russian air attack, while about 4 other ships exploded at random. Further analysis showed that they were hit from directly below. I wonder who did it...

The Finners managed to land 200 armored vehicles and about 2000 men in Japan though. They'll be dealt with soon enough by Brendan, I bet.
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| September 29, 2010, 5:42 pm
Go Japan! Go!
Not that I don't like Mongolia, but John would of survived this no matter what, Japan might not of.
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| September 29, 2010, 5:46 pm
Quoting Jake H.
Go Japan! Go!
Not that I don't like Mongolia, but John would of survived this no matter what, Japan might not of.

*Head turns around 180 degrees to face you* Yes, just the head. The front of my body is ties up flipping off Brendan.
Oh, what happened to my troops in Korea?
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| September 29, 2010, 5:56 pm
Quoting Brendan Dore
Asia

>.>

If I has subs.... r any naval forces to speak of
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| September 29, 2010, 5:57 pm
Oh good. Now I have people to bolster my <9000 in Japan
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| September 29, 2010, 6:00 pm
Quoting Brendan Dore
Have fun with a bunch of short people.

:O
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| September 29, 2010, 6:05 pm
Remember, now I have short people. And those things that people hate in this group. <.<
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| September 29, 2010, 6:05 pm
Quoting Brendan Dore
Luckily in the real world, I tower over those people at 6'3". Fo sho.

That's like a foot taller than me...
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| September 29, 2010, 6:09 pm
>.>
I'm still a YFOL (so 12) and I'm 5'5.
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| September 29, 2010, 6:16 pm
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Quoting Brendan Dore
With no navy to speak of against one of the most advanced navies in the world. And a super-battleship. >.>

Thanks for the reminder to build more ships.
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| September 29, 2010, 6:29 pm
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Alaska-
-Due to lack of activity local PCU commanders ordered a few probing attacks. Little, if any, resistance was found

SRGL-
-SRGL forces at Newport News have been trying to stay motivated as of late and have been told that this battle is their Alamo, they must fight to the death.
-PCU have completely encircled the SRGL forces, almost all strongholds have been damaged/destroyed due to air superiority. A fresh 2,000 troops have taken the charge for the PCU, led by 20 HAT-1s. The giant tanks ran over all obstacles until running into extremely heavy AT fire.
-PCU launches a 5,000 strong offensive to take Richmond. Fighting is heavy, running into SRGL forces attempting to relieved the beleaguered defenders.
-PCU has set up huge numbers of AAA and SAM emplacements all around the country, sensing an imminent revised German campaign. They were right
-SRGL moves the limping Great Lakes carrier from Maine has moved out (slowly) in order to provide some localized air cover.

Texas
-PCU is done playing games. Large numbers of troops have begun moving in from around the country. However, due to the Egyptian's attack the other day, they are being greatly slowed. All units moving in have very heavy SAM and AAA cover, as they sense impending he11fire from the skies.
-PCU launches a limited armored campaign in Lewisville. They are engaging the very poorly coordinated Texan forces.
-PCU, despite using utmost caution in their advance, have sensed that their enemy is on the verge of collapsing. They are have now relieved the FTSA forces that were being hammered, and have formed a Field Army, combining their attacks to a massive attack on Houston.
-PCU forces continue their advance from the northern Panhandle, and are encountering light resistance. It would appear that the Texans have been leaderless (ahem) for about the last week or so. Almost the entirety of the Texan armored forces and air forces have been exterminated.

I hate to say it, but PCU is almost certainly going to win this war unless Will sends me stuff. Regardless of what Cliffe may (and will do), air power doesn't win ground wars.

All Continental US fronts-
- All PCU AAA was prepared for a new Egyptian/German attack. They were right to be worried.
- Seven crack Luftwaffe fighter squadrons have been deployed to Northern SRGL bases (about the only place where they can land now). Their effect was immediate. PCU air power on the Eastern Seaboard is under heavy attack now, and German bombers dropped thousands of tons of munitions on PCU troops. However, these Reichsadlers were heavily engaged by the PCU's latest SAMs and many were lost.
-Fighter squadrons are proving most effective at evading SAMs, but losses have been recorded.
-Newport News airspace is heavily contested now. The Best of the Best for the Germans, the 52nd Tactical Fighter Squadron is there, but they are fighting the PCUs best, there are at least 6 PCU aces (most fighting the Texans and SRGL, but some scored Egyptian victories).
-Germans have managed to shoot down a vital AWACS over Newport News, but there is another which escaped destruction.
-Air war is now back to being attrition, as both air forces grind down at each other.

Sorry for being so late, Mondays and Tuesdays don't work well for me well anymore.
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| September 29, 2010, 6:47 pm
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Quoting Jake H.
Hhhhmm I have a scheme in the making, but it would land me in a load of trouble.

Cliffe doesn't like you anyway. You've got nothing to lose. I know that as for me and Awe, we appreciate someone being able to pull off a cunning enough plan. Especially the long running ones.

Quoting Jake H.
Wars in Africa are boring, half the time we're discussing economic issues. I say we do something in Europe.
Then fight in South America, North America, Africa, and Japan.
Maybe if B. E. A. R. broke up...

What, and lose our ability to bulldoze through Europe any time we feel like it?

Quoting Awesome-o-saurus The Not-So-Great
If you made a 22nd century world group, it'd be a little more plausible. If you made a 23rd century group, it'd be very plausible, but then the COP would invade in 2240 and ruin all your infighting fun.

Or a 33rd Century group. I'm betting you'd really enjoy yourself with Comstar, sabotaging everyone else with your secret army while monopolizing their communications.
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| September 29, 2010, 6:52 pm
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Quoting Areetsa C
What, and lose our ability to bulldoze through Europe any time we feel like it?


Im sorry but I just laughed. You do realize that the BEAR member nations would have a hard time even getting to Europe to fight? Not only that, but without Dawn you lose a lot of your Russian military power. While you have Finn, he is already engaged in several wars, and as said before, he is far away from the supposed frontlines. While obviously a war could go either way, I would not expect that "bulldozing" through Europe in any case. So good luck with that.

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| September 29, 2010, 6:58 pm
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Quoting Matt Hacker
Im sorry but I just laughed. You do realize that the BEAR member nations would have a hard time even getting to Europe to fight? Not only that, but without Dawn you lose a lot of your Russian military power. While you have Finn, he is already engaged in several wars, and as said before, he is far away from the supposed frontlines. While obviously a war could go either way, I would not expect that "bulldozing" through Europe in any case. So good luck with that.

My army is fresh and well equipped, has combat experience from the reunification efforts, Kazakhstan and western China.

And Dawn, well, any numbers the IRA provides should be taken with a bag of salt. The man claims to have eleven aircraft carriers and thirty five battleships. Soviet Russia couldn't complete ONE aircraft carrier.
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| September 29, 2010, 7:08 pm
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Quoting Areetsa C
My army is fresh and well equipped, has combat experience from the reunification efforts, Kazakhstan and western China.

And Dawn, well, any numbers the IRA provides should be taken with a bag of salt. The man claims to have eleven aircraft carriers and thirty five battleships. Soviet Russia couldn't complete ONE aircraft carrier.


Your army may be freshly equipped, but so are all of the European armies. And do not forget that you lack an Air Force other than perhaps a few Foxbat/Foxhound interceptor squadrons.

And you are correct about Dawn and his carriers.

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| September 29, 2010, 7:17 pm
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Quoting Areetsa C
My army is fresh and well equipped, has combat experience from the reunification efforts, Kazakhstan and western China.

And Dawn, well, any numbers the IRA provides should be taken with a bag of salt. The man claims to have eleven aircraft carriers and thirty five battleships. Soviet Russia couldn't complete ONE aircraft carrier.

You are right, I've got to reduce those numbers, seeing as I remember give/selling a couple to the PCU. And news flash the Soviet Union is no more.
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| September 29, 2010, 7:18 pm
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Quoting Matt Hacker
Your army may be freshly equipped, but so are all of the European armies. And do not forget that you lack an Air Force other than perhaps a few Foxbat/Foxhound interceptor squadrons.

They don't have very much in the way of combat experience. Glorified police action in Africa =/= fighting an equal or superior force.

Aand I do have an airforce, I just haven't been bothered to run the numbers. Any invasions I participate in are combined arms operations anyway, so there's not much likelihood of me needing exact numbers.

Quoting Evan Melick
Although I agree with Matt. In order to "bulldoze Europe", you would need to invade through John (who although not the best with his numbers, has the majority of the Ethnic Russians on the planet). Even if you somehow managed to defeat him, I'm sure the Finnish, Bohemian, French, German, and even my militiaries would have a slight issue with that.

I wouldn't, actually. Jack Ford's Iran is a more accessable target, and that'd put us in a perfect position to stab up through Prussia and put me on the doorstep of Africa. The rest of Europe? Well, how often have you guys gotten in a war and then pulled out? Exactly.

Quoting John Dawn
You are right, I've got to reduce those numbers, seeing as I remember give/selling a couple to the PCU. And news flash the Soviet Union is no more.

You should still be bankrupt.
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| September 29, 2010, 7:28 pm
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Quoting Areetsa C
Quoting John Dawn
You are right, I've got to reduce those numbers, seeing as I remember give/selling a couple to the PCU. And news flash the Soviet Union is no more.

You should still be bankrupt.
So should you but since there is nothing in space now, it like a reimbursement, plus selling off some old units and selling arms to Africa, I'm doing quite well thank you.

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| September 29, 2010, 7:35 pm
Quoting Matt Hacker
Quoting Areetsa C
My army is fresh and well equipped, has combat experience from the reunification efforts, Kazakhstan and western China.

And Dawn, well, any numbers the IRA provides should be taken with a bag of salt. The man claims to have eleven aircraft carriers and thirty five battleships. Soviet Russia couldn't complete ONE aircraft carrier.


Your army may be freshly equipped, but so are all of the European armies. And do not forget that you lack an Air Force other than perhaps a few Foxbat/Foxhound interceptor squadrons.

And you are correct about Dawn and his carriers.

People and air forces these days... sheesh! I would have thought people would start learning from what's happening to the Pacific Empire right now.
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| September 29, 2010, 7:41 pm
Were I not tied up in Japan I'd suggest bulldozing through Europe just to spite Matt.
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| September 29, 2010, 8:46 pm
Several strike forces, delivered by MIT-01s, have been sent to the Panama canal, subtlety has been a priority on these missions, for obvious reasons. It is estimated that the TL-18 task force, under escort by several C-35s and at lower altitude MTH-02s, will arrive before tomorrow to support the strike force pinned down there at the moment.

The negotiations with Brazil have reached unfavorable conditions, though their neutrality remains unchanged at the moment. We are strengthening border defenses, in any case of hostility.
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| September 29, 2010, 9:01 pm
If you did that, I'd probably join you and attack the nearest European nation.
Just to help make it a fully fledged World War III
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| September 29, 2010, 9:03 pm
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Quoting Areetsa C
The rest of Europe? Well, how often have you guys gotten in a war and then pulled out? Exactly.


OH SNAP. /high fives
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| September 29, 2010, 9:06 pm
Quoting Awesome-o-saurus The Not-So-Great

OH SNAP. /high fives

*Continues high-five session*
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| September 29, 2010, 9:14 pm
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Europe is, of course, a prime target. Specifically since Europe contains the most free and open minded people as well as some of the largest, most developed infastructure. It is logical that nations with almost no population (ahem Artsee) would want to take the crown jewel of the world, the last continent where war is not being waged.

And Jake. Stay out of this. If you want to mess with Europe I can stop sending spares and training USCA forces, plus I wont deliver the missiles. Dont mess with me, as I have helped your ally become strong, but I can easily let him wither and die.

And for dear Artsee. I have not seen Europe engaged in one war (yet) so your point makes no sense. Our only wars were those assisting fellow friendly nations gain more territory, much like you illogically did with barely any people. So please, STFU.

That is all.
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| September 29, 2010, 9:17 pm
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Quoting Juan .
Several strike forces, delivered by MIT-01s, have been sent to the Panama canal, subtlety has been a priority on these missions, for obvious reasons. It is estimated that the TL-18 task force, under escort by several C-35s and at lower altitude MTH-02s, will arrive before tomorrow to support the strike force pinned down there at the moment.

I thought Nick controlled Panama? And in turn I thought you guys were allies/buddies/etc.?
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| September 29, 2010, 9:45 pm
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Quoting Dr. Spontaneous
Quoting Juan .
Several strike forces, delivered by MIT-01s, have been sent to the Panama canal, subtlety has been a priority on these missions, for obvious reasons. It is estimated that the TL-18 task force, under escort by several C-35s and at lower altitude MTH-02s, will arrive before tomorrow to support the strike force pinned down there at the moment.

I thought Nick controlled Panama? And in turn I thought you guys were allies/buddies/etc.?


My bad, I forgot I gave up all lands excluding Peru, Chile, Ecuador, and Panama. My bad.

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| September 29, 2010, 9:46 pm
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Quoting Matt Hacker
I have not seen Europe engaged in one war (yet) so your point makes no sense.
Actually Evan and I were at war once. One doesn't simply forget the cruise missile launched at my capital, just like one does not simple walk into Mordor.
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| September 29, 2010, 9:55 pm
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Quoting John Dawn
Quoting Matt Hacker


Oh I see. What happened in that war? Im assuming that for reasons of not destroying his economy Evan wisely called off the attack. Unlike Brendan's rather hilarious two day invasion of California.
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| September 29, 2010, 9:57 pm
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Quoting John Dawn
Actually Evan and I were at war once. One doesn't simply forget the cruise missile launched at my capital, just like one does not simple walk into Mordor.

But camping got in the way. Evan loves him some Boy Scouts. Mmm . . .
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| September 29, 2010, 9:57 pm
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Quoting Matt Hacker


Oh I see. What happened in that war? Im assuming that for reasons of not destroying his economy Evan wisely called off the attack. Unlike Brendan's rather hilarious two day invasion of California.
No, Evan backed off after he got Iceland because BEAR was going to attack him after China was divided up.

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| September 29, 2010, 9:59 pm
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Quoting Dr. Spontaneous
But camping got in the way. Evan loves him some Boy Scouts. Mmm . . .


>.>

Does Evan love boy scouts in the way that Sultan Mehmed II loved boys in general?
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| September 29, 2010, 9:59 pm
Quoting Matt Hacker
Europe is, of course, a prime target. Specifically since Europe contains the most free and open minded people as well as some of the largest, most developed infastructure. It is logical that nations with almost no population (ahem Artsee) would want to take the crown jewel of the world, the last continent where war is not being waged.

And Jake. Stay out of this. If you want to mess with Europe I can stop sending spares and training USCA forces, plus I wont deliver the missiles. Dont mess with me, as I have helped your ally become strong, but I can easily let him wither and die.

And for dear Artsee. I have not seen Europe engaged in one war (yet) so your point makes no sense. Our only wars were those assisting fellow friendly nations gain more territory, much like you illogically did with barely any people. So please, STFU.

That is all.

When I said attack the nearest European nation I meant France or Prusso-Egypt. Whoever is in Africa, closest, and European, I have no intention of invading Europe. In fact I hope to avoid open warfare altogether for the next few months, I would of thought this obvious given my way of dealing with the war in Africa.
I'm sorry if I offended you or gave you cause to be alarmed.
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| September 29, 2010, 9:59 pm
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Quoting Awesome-o-saurus The Not-So-Great

>.>

Does Evan love boy scouts in the way that Sultan Mehmed II loved boys in general?

Mhm.
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| September 29, 2010, 10:01 pm
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Quoting Evan Melick
That was my hothead decision though, and didn't really admit to much. But yeah, sorry about that.
Its alright, I try to forget about it but when said Europe was not in any direct wars, I had to step in.

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| September 29, 2010, 10:02 pm
Quoting Thomas N
He had to do that because he was suddenly attacked by a force of Mongolians that shouldn't have reached his beach anyway.

They were on boats headed in that direction anyways.
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| September 29, 2010, 10:03 pm
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Quoting Thomas N
And, if you tried to attack France in Morroco, Western Sahara, or Mauritania (which probably seems so tantalizing to you, as it borders you), you would get crushed into a pulp. Not a threat, just a fact, why don't you go look at the good doctor's creations for a second, and weigh your own possibilities.

D'aww. You're so sweet. <3
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| September 29, 2010, 10:09 pm
Quoting Thomas N
Cliffe is a double government, both Ger=many and Egypt are separately governed in the same realm.

So no, Cliffe's Egypt is not European. His Egypt is ruled solely by Egypt, and Germany is ruled solely by Germany. Germany doesn't rule Egypt.

And, if you tried to attack France in Morroco, Western Sahara, or Mauritania (which probably seems so tantalizing to you, as it borders you), you would get crushed into a pulp. Not a threat, just a fact, why don't you go look at the good doctor's creations for a second, and weigh your own possibilities.

Well of course I wouldn't do that now! In fact I said that up there in my previous comment. If I did any of those things, it would probably be in the next group. At one point I actually had a CM written up with attack plans for France, but me and Erik came to an agreement. Really I'm fine with my country's size and I feel no need to expand anymore.
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| September 29, 2010, 10:15 pm
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Keith is back, just encase you didn't know: http://www.mocpages.com/home.php/53780
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| September 29, 2010, 10:15 pm
When he left he was being a J e r k to pretty much everybody. Even though I was busy with school when he left, I read through some of the comments and such he made before he left, and they were all rather rude and pretty unnecessary.
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| September 29, 2010, 10:18 pm
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Quoting Thomas N
Which means the clonies didn't win.

oh yeah!
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| September 29, 2010, 10:19 pm
Quoting Thomas N
They were on transports! One does not simply drive transports up to someone's beach, and drop over 9000 troops off! It doesn't work like that!

Brendan still had a more than capable combat force in the area around his HOME ISLANDS, yet any defensive measures that obviously would have occurred in the real world were given no heed.

Point taken, I thought they were in actual combat boats.
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| September 29, 2010, 10:19 pm
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Quoting Jake H.
When he left he was being a J e r k to pretty much everybody. Even though I was busy with school when he left, I read through some of the comments and such he made before he left, and they were all rather rude and pretty unnecessary.

He was stressed out because of the contest he had to judge, he judged over 200 probably more entries, and EKO was being a.... *censored*.
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| September 29, 2010, 10:24 pm
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Quoting Evan Melick
That and the UFE treaty makes it so that if you get any ideas to go after the good Doctor, you'll have the combined militarizes of most of Europe at war with you, counting Prussia-Egypt.

So, just though it's worth looking into those odds.

So many things wrong with that. "Militarizes"? My dear lad, I don't think that works. And Prusso-Egypt isn't included in the UFE if that's what you were implying. Care for a take-two?

Quoting Jake H.
/sigh/
I was using Erik and Cliffe as an example. I have no intention of attacking anyone, as I've stated three times now.
I was talking with Mongolia and Areetsa about the mythical world war three that some of us want but will never have.

It's okay; I knew what your implication was. My associates are just a bit hyped when the word "war" gets slung around.
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| September 29, 2010, 10:26 pm
/sigh/
I was using Erik and Cliffe as an example. I have no intention of attacking anyone, as I've stated three times now.
I was talking with Mongolia and Areetsa about the mythical world war three that some of us want but will never have.
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| September 29, 2010, 10:26 pm
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Quoting Thomas N
They were on transports! One does not simply drive transports up to someone's beach, and drop over 9000 troops off! It doesn't work like that!

Brendan still had a more than capable combat force in the area around his HOME ISLANDS, yet any defensive measures that obviously would have occurred in the real world were given no heed.


It's less than a days ride from Russia to the Japanese coast. It was also a surprise attack.

Also, I *did* ask if anyone had problems with me being combat mod, and I pointed out my obvious lack of skill in doing it. You could have spoken out then...


Quoting John Dawn
He was stressed out because of the contest he had to judge, he judged over 200 probably more entries, and EKO was being a.... *censored*.


If you can't deal with it, don't sign up for it. You'd think adults would know that?
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| September 29, 2010, 10:27 pm
Quoting Dr. Spontaneous
I thought Nick controlled Panama? And in turn I thought you guys were allies/buddies/etc.?

I thought so too, but he told me he didn't have Panama, since he lost it post September 11th, as such it still appeared as his on the map.

In which case ignore the reports from the last couple of days on matters regarding any hostilities between Colombia and Panama.
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| September 29, 2010, 10:29 pm
Quoting John Dawn
and EKO was being a.... *censored*.

That bad huh? When I got back on during summer I thought he was being pretty mature. Of course I did notice everybody saying horrible things about him. I'm surprised nobody ended up stalking him...
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| September 29, 2010, 10:29 pm
Quoting Evan Melick
Tired, sue me.

Just saying, if he reandomly decided to go after you now, he'd still be fighting Cliffe too.

/sobs/
I have no intention of going after Erik! I was using him as an example.
I LIKE France.

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| September 29, 2010, 10:31 pm
Quoting Dr. Spontaneous
Quoting Jake H.
/sigh/
I was using Erik and Cliffe as an example. I
have no intention of attacking anyone, as I've stated three times now.
I was talking with Mongolia and Areetsa about the mythical world war three that some of us want but will never have.

It's okay; I knew what your implication was. My associates are just a bit hyped when the word "war" gets slung around.

Thank you, I was getting really frustrated.
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| September 29, 2010, 10:32 pm
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Production of the C5 Wolf Tank and brand new C220 Lynx IFV have started! Finland plans to at least double its tank force, and begin replacing the very old BMP-2s which our army still contains. Fellow BAMF nations Estonia and Latvia will each have a new Tank Division created for their forces. Kits have finished upgrading all C100-105 GPMRVs into C106s', which are far superior to the older models.

Finland has begun construction of a further 5 Hydra class GMDs in our shipyards. We are considering building another Type-4, but that is, of course, if funding can be found. Our air force is concerned at the moment. Is any nation with F35s willing to part with any number of them? We greatly desire to bolster our Air Force.

Rejoice! The bunker line bordering Norway and Sweden, as well as the IRA is complete.

From a diplomatic standpoint, we can no longer continue to train USCA troops directly, as it may give the appearance of bias. The missile sales will continue, however.


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| September 29, 2010, 10:34 pm
Quoting Thomas N
They were on transports! One does not simply drive transports up to someone's beach, and drop over 9000 troops off! It doesn't work like that!

Brendan still had a more than capable combat force in the area around his HOME ISLANDS, yet any defensive measures that obviously would have occurred in the real world were given no heed.

Ctrl Alt Del doesn't work in this world. Think of it this way; how long do you think it would take Canada to react if for some reason a ton of transports showed up on the BC coast and offloaded? Just because you have coastal defenses doesn't mean they're constantly manned.
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| September 29, 2010, 10:44 pm
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Quoting Matt Hacker

Rejoice! The bunker line bordering Norway and Sweden, as well as the IRA is complete.




You build bunkers, Nick builds walls.

I build mobile defense formations along naturally occurring borders. Patton would be proud.
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| September 29, 2010, 10:44 pm
Also, we did have buddies in the Siberian fleet with us, since we were returning from Alaska with them.
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| September 29, 2010, 10:44 pm
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Quoting Awesome-o-saurus The Not-So-Great


Of course, the bunkers are more of a way to get more time to fully mobilize my real, mobile defense. However, similar to current Finnish defense strategy, total defense is a key goal.
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| September 29, 2010, 10:46 pm
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Quoting Thomas N

Oh, it was a surprise attack, so I guess when Japanese radar operators picked up unidentified ships encroaching on their waters, they wouldn't have sent out any naval and air force elements because it was a "surprise attack". That makes perfect sense now.

/sarcasm



Alas, alas, my pride is vanquished!

Seriously, you could have complained about this earlier when you could have volunteered in my stead. I'm very certain I mentioned it to the people of this group. But no, you decided to wait till now.
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| September 29, 2010, 11:11 pm
Quoting Thomas N
too bad they pale in comparison to Brendan's fleet too.

Brendan's fleet happened to be on the other side of the world's largest ocean at the time. A good chunk of it, anyway.
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| September 29, 2010, 11:14 pm
With the advent of the recent takeover of North Korea, funds to the Gobi Solar Farm have been cut by 90%. This additional budget will be fed into extending the effective range of North Korean nuclear weapons. You heard me.
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| September 29, 2010, 11:16 pm
Quoting Thomas N
No one puts an entire fleet out of home waters. The good chunk of it would have been left for home defense, especially since you guys had been threatening him ever since China, he had every right to be cautious, and was, until whatever outcome he unjustly came to.

Look man, my troops are cornered in a mountain range in central Japan. Somehow, despite my pillaging, he continues to build some massive super battleship. Things aren't going well here for me.
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| September 29, 2010, 11:18 pm
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Quoting Matt Hacker
Specifically since Europe contains the most free and open minded people

*Cough, sputter sputter.*
Yeah, sure. As long as no one stands up and says they actually like America (which in some cases is apparently akin to a capital offense) which they are then dragged down, beaten, and strictly warned never to think freely again... If you call that 'open minded'...

Sigh...
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| September 29, 2010, 11:20 pm
Quoting Thomas N

Hence trying to kick Brendan out of the group by taking over Japan.

Never said I was trying to do that. We left Cole a place, it was his own decision to leave.
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| September 29, 2010, 11:24 pm
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Quoting John Moffatt
Never said I was trying to do that. We left Cole a place, it was his own decision to leave.

Cole's gone? Huh...

*races off to finish plans to invade China*
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| September 29, 2010, 11:25 pm
Have you heard anything from him since Chinese Takeout?
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| September 29, 2010, 11:26 pm
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Quoting Thomas N
Its not an attack on you Awe, its really meant to stand up for Brendan, who is only getting picked on by an overly-expansive, world-domination-bent group of former soviets who think that everyone who tries to oppose them no longer has the right to his nation anymore.


You know how Cliffe is, he'd give Brendan a little slice of territory somewhere else. He'd do it for everyone, I'm sure. Except maybe Nick and Erik.

Quoting Ultramarine .


Forsooth. No one likes America these days, nay. If it wasn't for us and the Russians, maybe they'd be a little less liberal.


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| September 29, 2010, 11:28 pm
Quoting Thomas N
If you're going to leave Brendan a place, why not just take Korea and leave him Japan?

Because when you support the losing side, you lose.
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| September 29, 2010, 11:29 pm
Alas! My witty reply was censored!
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| September 29, 2010, 11:36 pm
*bows* It's not every day I get to be a bad guy. Eventually I'm going to run my country into the ground economically and with any luck the world will go to pot with me.
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| September 29, 2010, 11:37 pm
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Quoting John Moffatt
*bows* It's not every day I get to be a bad guy. Eventually I'm going to run my country into the ground economically and with any luck the world will go to pot with me.


Welcome to Nick's world.
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| September 29, 2010, 11:41 pm
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Quoting Awesome-o-saurus The Not-So-Great

Welcome to Nick's world.

Well, you know...

Gotta do what you gotta do...
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| September 29, 2010, 11:44 pm
Gotta do what I wanna do
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| September 29, 2010, 11:46 pm
Quoting John Moffatt
Ctrl Alt Del doesn't work in this world. Think of it this way; how long do you think it would take Canada to react if for some reason a ton of transports showed up on the BC coast and offloaded? Just because you have coastal defenses doesn't mean they're constantly manned.
i e D-day
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| September 29, 2010, 11:57 pm
Quoting Thomas N
Actually, I don't think he even knows he has a place anymore, and its not like we can contact him, he doesn't have a Flickr, I've tried emailing him, but didn't get a response...

I think either he gave up, died, or quit. Because he left without warning in a war.
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| September 30, 2010, 12:47 am
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Quoting John Moffatt
Look man, my troops are cornered in a mountain range in central Japan. Somehow, despite my pillaging, he continues to build some massive super battleship. Things aren't going well here for me.

In this case, you want to burn, THEN pillage. I know the rule is to pillage, then burn, but this is an exception.

Quoting Thomas N
If you're going to leave Brendan a place, why not just take Korea and leave him Japan?

Because islands are incredibly easy to turn into fortresses, especially big ones. How many post-Willie The Conqueror invasions of England have succeeded? Not very many, I'd bet. And England's never bothered with walling off their coastlines.
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| September 30, 2010, 1:48 am
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Quoting Ultramarine .

Thats what I was referring to. While I need to stay openen-minded, especially since I am a combat mod for some nations, I will say that I overly generalized to create an effective counterresponse to Mr. Ex-Soviet Areetsa'C. Oh, and America is a brutal dictatorship now, and I dont like that >.>

Of course there are exceptions, like yourself, Austrailia, and others.
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| September 30, 2010, 8:46 am
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Quoting Matt Hacker
Thats what I was referring to. While I need to stay openen-minded, especially since I am a combat mod for some nations, I will say that I overly generalized to create an effective counterresponse to Mr. Ex-Soviet Areetsa'C. Oh, and America is a brutal dictatorship now, and I dont like that >.>

Of course there are exceptions, like yourself, Austrailia, and others.

I'm plenty open minded; if anyone else comes up with a new, useful sounding concept, you can be sure I'll experiment with it. If you're not open to new ideas, you can't adapt to change.
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| September 30, 2010, 8:51 am
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Due to recent hints concerning the invasion of my country, I'm going to prepare for the worst. Borders shared with any other country with the exception of India will be patroled every five minutes by UAC Air Force craft, and any unauthorized travel in or out of the UAC will be investigated, with a shoot first-ask questions later mentality. Border checkpoints along international road systems will now contain an officer and two Storm Troopers.(UAC basic infantry, "storm trooper" just sounds cooler) These aren't really usefull for defense, but contain equipment to easily communicate with all branches of the UAC Armed Forces, and call in an airstrike/tank force/division of Storm Troopers/etc.


On a different and insignificant note, it's my birhtday today, (I'm 15 today) so I'm gonna spend the whole day elsewhere, namely fishing with my friend Aaron. Last time we each caught our limits of Silver Salmon, about 13-17 pounds each.
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| September 30, 2010, 10:59 am
The fires stoked the waters boiling its time G.e.o.p help the weary fallschirmjager on the swiss front
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| September 30, 2010, 2:53 pm
Quoting John Moffatt
@Poland - Best of luck to you. I don't mean this as a threat, but in past wars people have had a habit of marching through you.

not this time mate
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| September 30, 2010, 3:59 pm
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Quoting Matt Hacker
Of course there are exceptions, like yourself, Austrailia, and others.

Oh, I was referring to the real world...

Here I go again, misinterpreting what people mean!
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| September 30, 2010, 4:04 pm
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Quoting Thomas N
If that's the case, it'd be more beneficial for the rest of us to just start him up again in South America should he lose.

That's what I was figuring. Even though Camillio or whatever is making moves on Brazil, so far that's not going so well for him.

Quoting Jack Ford

Since I've grown accustomed to having safe borders, I'd just as soon not have anyone invade you either. I have a rather extensive airforce to assist you with. We can discuss this, though when it happens.
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| September 30, 2010, 4:09 pm
Let's see what I've been up to...
-$542.16 Mil. has been wired to India for a recent purchase of F-1s. And will be delivered tomorrow.
-Gov't food passouts have begun and wells are being dug for water. To help speed up modernization, farmers are being given wheat to plant that will hopefully have a larger monetary value.
-Oil and NG rigs are being built in the Gulf of Guinea.
Also who owns the plans for the F-35?
(http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/F-35_Lightning_II)
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| September 30, 2010, 4:46 pm
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India has found yet another customer for its world-beating F-1 Victorious fighter, our dear friends in Nigeria have ordered a total of 54! They, along with the -1c upgrade packs will be delivered tomorrow morning on a classified flight plan. If anyone decides to 'interfere,' It will result in the destruction of their world as they know it. Just ask the SRGL if you have any doubts.

Several subs built under the joint program with Oceania are being introduced into the Indian fleet. They will be deploying soon.
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| September 30, 2010, 5:09 pm
New forum please
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| September 30, 2010, 5:11 pm
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Quoting Brikkr
Also who owns the plans for the F-35?
(http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/F-35_Lightning_II)


Plain F35s are in the domain of Nick, while if you have extra cash you may purchase F35P upgrade kits from me. The F35P kit includes everything needed to make your F35s ready for another 30 years of excellence in the sky! 3D thrust vectoring, new radar, as well as improved RAM, carrier capability, and next-gen Air to Air missiles.
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| September 30, 2010, 5:51 pm
Quoting Glenn Streeter
The fires stoked the waters boiling its time G.e.o.p help the weary fallschirmjager on the swiss front

Alright! Come on over, dude! The Kaiser and his men are excited to see you and yours.
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| September 30, 2010, 7:45 pm
Quoting Brendan Dore
Cool, I've never had people argue over me.

I lol'd.
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| September 30, 2010, 7:46 pm
Quoting Kaiser Pharaoh Cliffe
I lol'd.

I built something to take care of your bombers http://www.flickr.com/photos/jake_h/5039633167/...finally.
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| September 30, 2010, 7:52 pm
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Alaska:
The ultimate test of patience continues. Weagle has not moved, and neither has Nick

Texas:
- The PCU forces (with heavy air support) moving towards Houston once more. Today few Germans were to be found over Texas, and the few that were there were mostly scouts. No shots were fired, as neither side committed to battle, as the PCU air forces have heard of the skill of the Germans.

SRGL:
- A huge number of MAF-1 fighters have entered the Newport News theater, as well as legacy F-22s and F-35s. The sheer numbers are allowing for a Pyrrhic victory for the PCU. They are losing air craft, but at a 1:2 ratio due to the fact that most PCU pilots are by now highly battle hardened.
- The final attack into Newport News was launched today. SRGL first, second, and third (of four) defensive lines were breached by roughly 30 HAT-1s along with 25 GAP-1 fighter bombers. Infantry surged through, and once they reached the last (and toughest line) the PCU once again became cautious realizing that their victory is almost assured. The remaining 1,500 SRGL forces are surrounded, but are showing no sign of surrendering.
-No bombing runs were recorded today by Germany.
-36 Hyperfalcons with neutral IFF tags waited for some of the intense dogfights to break out, and as both the Germans and PCU disengaged, they fired missiles on the German Aircraft (they remained undetected by flying at low altitude). Around 17 victories were scored in the massive missile volley launched from them. The Germans are experts at evasion, but they could not survive a barrage with more than 100 missiles.
-5 Submarines (unknown origin) identified the Great Lakes carrier near Cape May, NJ today. The waited in ambush on the seafloor and launched missiles directly underneath the behemoth. This unconventional tactic was devastating, and the Great Lakes carrier is taking on water, and is severely listing to port. Most of the damage control teams were killed by the blasts, and the fires generated are ripping through the ship.
-SRGL fleet finds and destroys 3 of the 5 subs, although they were never able to ascertain which nation is behind this attack.
-At 20:18 EST, the inevitable happened. The Great Lakes carrier went under to her watery grave. Most of the aircraft aboard, as well as at least half of the crew escaped to the shore.
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| September 30, 2010, 8:21 pm
I know what I'm building next. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Archerside_commons.jpg
:3
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| September 30, 2010, 8:28 pm
I'm sending two of my SAMs into Chad.
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| September 30, 2010, 8:33 pm
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Finland is sending technicians to fully upgrade the Commonwealth's entire fleet of F-35s to the F35P standard. While obviously expensive, we are willing to upgrade two full squadrons for free.
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| September 30, 2010, 9:16 pm
Quoting Jake H.
I'm sending two of my SAMs into Chad.

Just to make sure, we're at peace now, because we've all settled things over Libya and Tunisia, right?
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| September 30, 2010, 9:49 pm
Quoting Kaiser Pharaoh Cliffe
Just to make sure, we're at peace now, because we've all settled things over Libya and Tunisia, right?

It's a tentative peace at best.
But yes, we have, although there is the small issue of Avella getting some form of reimbursement for the damage done to his country. That and deciding how long to protect Tunisia and Libya from outside country's, I would like to shoot for 1-2 months.
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| September 30, 2010, 9:51 pm
Quoting Thomas N
We need to attract more new members.

We have pretty much prime areas for start-up of a country in Brazil, Argentina, Mexico, and now Libya/Tunisia. Any four of those starting areas could blossom, we just need to get the word out.

There's this guy who's asking for Brazil here http://www.flickr.com/photos/legosim/4729022960/
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| September 30, 2010, 10:02 pm
Quoting Jake H.
It's a tentative peace at best.
But yes, we have, although there is the small issue of Avella getting some form of reimbursement for the damage done to his country. That and deciding how long to protect Tunisia and Libya from outside country's, I would like to shoot for 1-2 months.

I will be able to reimburse Avavella whenever he pleases- transport ekranoplans are being readied with immediate forms of aid as we speak. Other, less temporary supplies and/or aid, plus hard cash, are also being readied.

And I agree on the terms of the protection of Tunisia and Libya- although it would also be nice if we could just protect them until a new member comes and takes them.
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| September 30, 2010, 10:11 pm
Quoting Jake H.
I built something to take care of your bombers http://www.flickr.com/photos/jake_h/5039633167/...finally.

"Page not displayed"...

Hm, that's interesting.

But I saw your SAMs anyway, and I laughed. Like Evan has said before, they still won't have the range to take out high-altitude level bombers like the Reichsadler. No SAM has that range, and won't for a long time.

But no matter, as of now, I have no quarrel with you.
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| September 30, 2010, 10:16 pm
Quoting Kaiser Pharaoh Cliffe

And I agree on the terms of the protection of Tunisia and Libya- although it would also be nice if we could just protect them until a new member comes and takes them.

I doubt anyone will though, I mean they're both extremely poor. I understand what you mean though but we should wait until the two months are up to decide what to do, a lot of things can change in that time.
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| September 30, 2010, 10:18 pm
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Quoting Kaiser Pharaoh Cliffe
"Page not displayed"...

Hm, that's interesting.

But I saw your SAMs anyway, and I laughed. Like Evan has said before, they still won't have the range to take out high-altitude level bombers like the Reichsadler. No SAM has that range, and won't for a long time.

But no matter, as of now, I have no quarrel with you.

Which? This one:http://mocpages.com/moc.php/110037 ?
Check it out: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Akash_missile
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| September 30, 2010, 10:24 pm
Quoting Kaiser Pharaoh Cliffe
"Page not displayed"...

Hm, that's interesting.

But I saw your SAMs anyway, and I laughed. Like Evan has said before, they still won't have the range to take out high-altitude level bombers like the Reichsadler. No SAM has that range, and won't for a long time.

But no matter, as of now, I have no quarrel with you.

Eh I still HAVE them, and it makes me happy that a *poor* Africa country is starting construction of the only up to date SAMs.
And Evan didn't say anything about SAMs, he was talking about about tactical ground to air missile systems, big deference. The patriot missile has a range of over over 24km and is all-altitude my missiles are more advanced (by a good 40 years)and should have no problem reaching the altitude that bombers can accurately deliver ordinance.
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| September 30, 2010, 10:27 pm
Excuse me whilst I design the Taepodong 3....
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| September 30, 2010, 10:29 pm
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Today several high ranking officers made a deal with the PCU and militia friends in Mexico. Parts of the SRGL Military and civvies would break off and form a nation in Mexico, a state of anarchy(Like all other former PCU lands). The nation is known as the Federal Republic of Mexico, and is working with the PCU for smooth territorial transitions. The Chancellor is now hiding with loyalists, and it is unclear if the war shall continue or not.

I didn't give up, I'm just sick of this fighting against Nick.
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| September 30, 2010, 10:29 pm
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The carrier expeditionary unit has noted as arriving in the Maldives some hours ago. It would seem, quite obviously, that she is a fine vessel and we would like to thank and congratulate Oceania on her design. The expeditionary unit will head north as to make a wide berth and assume more data to be collected.

Aside from that, the mobile CIWS program is coming about quite nicely. The control systems have been simplified from those found aboard seaborne vessels; however, this doesn't mean it isn't any less effective. With that noted, the platform will probably be re-utilized as a mobile SAM system as well (quite similar to the American Patriot).

On note of the airframe upgrades to several Rafale squadrons, the finalization and trials of the kits are underway. Thus meaning they should be re-entering active service quite soon. The second ALDS is also quite complete and will be serving domestic duty early next week. Also, the production rights for the F-35 have been acquired from Britain as to create a greater unification effort within the UFE.

Granted that the second Type-4 is now complete and our carrier from Oceania arriving shortly, the third submarine of the above class has been set for construction shortly. The specialized munitions for said sub class are also being rapidly produced as to create a more ready supply in terms of defense. The 6.8mm munitions are still in similar terms.

Aside from all of that, the continual littoral and ground-based exercises have been concluded. The vehicle fleets are returning to their respective stations for maintenance, inspection, and inventory. Of course the boys are going back to mundane patrols as to keep security levels per standard. Luxembourg is now becoming home to our northern command in Europe and will begin a growth in national defense forces. Good stuff.

Finally, the Nat. Rep. of Maur. is now a state within the ADCC and is being appropriated as we speak. The whole focus is to assure that border riots don't occur as they are in W. Sahara and Morocco; which we highly doubt. Still, COIN units are alert to rapid response/deployment.
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| September 30, 2010, 10:30 pm
Quoting Ultramarine .
Which? This one:http://mocpages.com/moc.php/110037 ?
Check it out: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Akash_missile

I think he's talking about somehing more along these http://www.army-technology.com/projects/patriot/ lines.
Which makes everything he's saying even more absurd.
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| September 30, 2010, 10:30 pm
Quoting Evan Melick
Your bomber, being prop driven (at least mostly), will be slow, and unable to take to these super-high altitudes you claim, due to the pure lack of air to feed the engines.

Also, it doesn't seem your cockpit is enclosed, so the poor pilot will be dead within minutes, no matter how much air you pump into his mask.

Nor does a few bombs and a 20mm cannon count as a large scale strategic bomber.

He's talking about this http://www.mocpages.com/moc.php/103487 ... I think.
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| September 30, 2010, 10:32 pm
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Quoting Kaiser Pharaoh Cliffe
But I saw your SAMs anyway, and I laughed. Like Evan has said before, they still won't have the range to take out high-altitude level bombers like the Reichsadler. No SAM has that range, and won't for a long time.


In order to evade even modern SAMs, you would have to make the bomber sub-orbital. I am also willing to point out that a Prop-Powered Strategic Bomber could never evade this. Im sure you have heard of Francis Gary Powers and how his U2 was shot down in the 60s by early and rudimentary SAMs. And the U2 has one of the highest flight ceilings of any aircraft.

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| September 30, 2010, 10:32 pm
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Quoting Ham N' Biscuits
Today several high ranking officers made a deal with the PCU and militia friends in Mexico. Parts of the SRGL Military and civvies would break off and form a nation in Mexico, a state of anarchy(Like all other former PCU lands). The nation is known as the Federal Republic of Mexico, and is working with the PCU for smooth territorial transitions. The Chancellor is now hiding with loyalists, and it is unclear if the war shall continue or not.

I didn't give up, I'm just sick of this fighting against Nick.

What about your helpless men on those slow, lumbering freighters? And those nasty insurgents killing my civilians?
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| September 30, 2010, 10:33 pm
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The PCU is ordering a cease fire on the SRGL, but not on the Egyptian Air Force. Emergency AAA Protocols are still in effect. Transports are being offered to the SRGL to transport their splinter faction to Mexico, over the sea for safety reasons.
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| September 30, 2010, 10:33 pm
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Quoting Ultramarine .
What about your helpless men on those slow, lumbering freighters? And those nasty insurgents killing my civilians?


No way anyone can stop the wrath of Islam, sorry bro.
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| September 30, 2010, 10:34 pm
Quoting Evan Melick
Tactical Ground to Air Missile. In other words. It starts at the surface, and goes to the air.

Otherwise known as a Surface to Air Missile, or SAM.

Wikipedia confused me ._.
It said there were two types of ground to air missiles, tactical and strategic.
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| September 30, 2010, 10:34 pm
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Quoting Ham N' Biscuits

No way anyone can stop the wrath of Islam, sorry bro.

So am I. I see you have chosen to forfeit the lives of your men. My bombers take off in half an hour.

9,000... that's a lot to wear on your conscience.
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| September 30, 2010, 10:40 pm
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Quoting Ultramarine .
So am I. I see you have chosen to forfeit the lives of your men. My bombers take off in half an hour.

9,000... that's a lot to wear on your conscience.


Hooray for war crimes? You're also killing you own sailors, you know. That won't look to good in the eyes of civvies.
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| September 30, 2010, 10:43 pm
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Quoting Ham N' Biscuits

Hooray for war crimes? You're also killing you own sailors, you know. That won't look to good in the eyes of civvies.

I released control of those vessels to your men. I am willing to sacrifice the ships, though I will miss the tonnage...

It's not war crimes if you stop it...
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| September 30, 2010, 10:46 pm
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Quoting Ultramarine .
So am I. I see you have chosen to forfeit the lives of your men. My bombers take off in half an hour.

9,000... that's a lot to wear on your conscience.

Ultramarine, heel!

These men are no danger to you anymore. They're going to Mexico for a life of peace, where maybe then can carve out a simple living out of the anarchy going on in the absence of the PCU. Would you like it if you were evacuating India, and I bombed civilians leaving?
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| September 30, 2010, 10:48 pm
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Quoting Thomas N
Something people don't seem to understand.

NOT ALL PEOPLE OF ISLAMIC DESCENT ARE WRATH-BENT, TERRORISTIC, PEOPLE WHO ACTUALLY WANT TO DESTROY EVERYONE ELSE IN THE WORLD.

Most of them just want to be left at peace, they're not out to be wrathful. People need to stop judging an entire religion based on its radical extremists.

And if you can't see that as the truth, then you need to stop watching FOX.


I called in a bunch of extremists to help fight for the cause. They slipped over the border.
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| September 30, 2010, 10:51 pm
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Quoting Nick Shelton
Ultramarine, heel!

These men are no danger to you anymore. They're going to Mexico for a life of peace, where maybe then can carve out a simple living out of the anarchy going on in the absence of the PCU. Would you like it if you were evacuating India, and I bombed civilians leaving?

Innocent civilians are dying in my country. What would you do? Say, "Oh, I'm sorry for the inconvenience"? Those Americans are soldiers, they signed up for it. Those women and children in Bombay didn't.
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| September 30, 2010, 10:51 pm
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Quoting Thomas N
Something people don't seem to understand.

NOT ALL PEOPLE OF ISLAMIC DESCENT ARE WRATH-BENT, TERRORISTIC, PEOPLE WHO ACTUALLY WANT TO DESTROY EVERYONE ELSE IN THE WORLD.

Most of them just want to be left at peace, they're not out to be wrathful. People need to stop judging an entire religion based on its radical extremists.

And if you can't see that as the truth, then you need to stop watching FOX.

FAUX News is not my choice news service. I'll stick with the Communist News Network for now.
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| September 30, 2010, 10:52 pm
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Quoting Thomas N
Oh I see, and they would support you because...?

...you just said they would in your CR? No, that can't be right.

Wait, wait, I got it! I'll just abolish Islam like Cliffe did! There, ok Ham, I won't kill your guys now. No more Islam in my borders!
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| September 30, 2010, 10:55 pm
Quoting Ham N' Biscuits
Today several high ranking officers made a deal with the PCU and militia friends in Mexico. Parts of the SRGL Military and civvies would break off and form a nation in Mexico, a state of anarchy(Like all other former PCU lands). The nation is known as the Federal Republic of Mexico, and is working with the PCU for smooth territorial transitions. The Chancellor is now hiding with loyalists, and it is unclear if the war shall continue or not.

I didn't give up, I'm just sick of this fighting against Nick.

Ham...

You didn't have to do this.

I was just about to send in a humongous land force for you.
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| September 30, 2010, 10:57 pm
Quoting Matt Hacker

In order to evade even modern SAMs, you would have to make the bomber sub-orbital. I am also willing to point out that a Prop-Powered Strategic Bomber could never evade this. Im sure you have heard of Francis Gary Powers and how his U2 was shot down in the 60s by early and rudimentary SAMs. And the U2 has one of the highest flight ceilings of any aircraft.

Um, I do have sub-orbital bombers. They're my Hyperhawks.

:D
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| September 30, 2010, 10:58 pm
Quoting Ultramarine .
Wait, wait, I got it! I'll just abolish Islam like Cliffe did! There, ok Ham, I won't kill your guys now. No more Islam in my borders!

Which brings me to an interesting point.
I remember Cliffe questioning my economy a while ago, and well...
No Islam=Powerful Algeria.
The ONLY reason Algeria has been struggling is because of political infighting caused by Muslim extremist.

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| September 30, 2010, 11:00 pm
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Quoting Evan Melick
So you're a far rightist who thinks Obama is the antichrist, but you don't like Fox News.

Explain.

No, I'm a far leftist who loves Obama.

As you can clearly see, sarcasm is hard to tell in internet.
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| September 30, 2010, 11:01 pm
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Quoting Evan Melick
So you're a far rightist who thinks Obama is the antichrist, but you don't like Fox News.

Explain.

I don't know anyone who honestly thinks Oby is the antichrist. That's just a preschooler argument you can throw at us to discredit us. So stop it.
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| September 30, 2010, 11:01 pm
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Quoting Jake H.
Wikipedia confused me ._.
It said there were two types of ground to air missiles, tactical and strategic.

Those are classifications; a tactical SAM is designed to defend army units; that is, it can be moved fast enough to keep up with an armoured division, and a battery of them can effectively defend said division from air attack.

Strategic SAMs are big, immobile things, intended to protect cities and important installations.

----

I was going over the statistics thread recently, and I noticed something: just about everyone has far too much in the way of equipment. Battleships in the double digits, way too many aircraft, and all sorts of other things like that.

People need to have a look at their army numbers, and shave them down significantly.

Quoting Kaiser Pharaoh Cliffe
Um, I do have sub-orbital bombers. They're my Hyperhawks.

:D

You're not allowed those, they're too spacey.
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| September 30, 2010, 11:02 pm
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Quoting Kaiser Pharaoh Cliffe
Um, I do have sub-orbital bombers. They're my Hyperhawks.

:D


The Hyperhawks cant reach those speeds and height. Period. Especially not with munitions. Oh, and the pilot would be dead from doing Mach 10. Oh, and if the plane attempted to maneuver it would disintegrate. Just sayin that they are not anything more in reality more than a stunt, like the RAMjets or even to a lesser extent, the X-Craft (stealth ship).
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| September 30, 2010, 11:03 pm
Quoting Evan Melick
So you're a far rightist who thinks Obama is the antichrist, but you don't like Fox News.

Explain.


I know what he's talking about. I would take the time to explain but it would take about three paragraphs. You see I went to school with 200 of those people for about three years.
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| September 30, 2010, 11:03 pm
Quoting Areetsa C
Those are classifications; a tactical SAM is designed to defend army units; that is, it can be moved fast enough to keep up with an armoured division, and a battery of them can effectively defend said division from air attack.

Strategic SAMs are big, immobile things, intended to protect cities and important installations.

----

I was going over the statistics thread recently, and I noticed something: just about everyone has far too much in the way of equipment. Battleships in the double digits, way too many aircraft, and all sorts of other things like that.

People need to have a look at their army numbers, and shave them down significantly.


I'll shave down my airforce, but everything else I think is fine for me...unless of course you disagree.
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| September 30, 2010, 11:06 pm
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All politicians are evil. True leaders are not evil. That's my stance and I'm sticking with it. Democrats and Republics have both failed the United States of America.
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| September 30, 2010, 11:08 pm
I've reached my limit here.

It now comes to my attention that due to the pressure under which the SRGL had fallen and cracked, it, in all reality, did give up.

And as for Texas, they're making a grand last stand.

And whether any of you realize it or not, all of this is indeed a result of the lust and ev1l of the one.

Lust and ev1l is not tolerated.

Especially if it can't be controlled.

I always say, chaos can be fun- as long as it's controlled chaos. And by now... it's all definitely gotten out of hand.

Matt, you were right.

Sorry, Awesome.

Goodbye, Nicky boi. It's been delightful.
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| September 30, 2010, 11:10 pm
Quoting Kaiser Pharaoh Cliffe

Matt, you were right.

Sorry, Awesome.

Goodbye, Nicky boi. It's been delightful.

Whaaa-
...that all just went right past me.
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| September 30, 2010, 11:11 pm
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Quoting Jake H.
I'll shave down my airforce, but everything else I think is fine for me...unless of course you disagree.

Well, your numbers are fine. I wouldn't want to be involved in your supply system, but other than that.

Here's a rule of thumb: do you have more fighters than the Russian Federation?
If yes:
then: find some more realistic numbers.
If no:
then: you're probably fine.

In fact, a lot of planes listed in airforces are in less than ideal conditions. There hasn't been a military conflict for decades, so air forces haven't been looking after their planes as well as they could have.

So if you conquer some tiny state and absorb its airforce? Refit time, mate. It'd probably be cheaper to just build new ones.
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| September 30, 2010, 11:13 pm
Quoting Areetsa C
Well, your numbers are fine. I wouldn't want to be involved in your supply system, but other than that.

Here's a rule of thumb: do you have more fighters than the Russian Federation?
If yes:
then: find some more realistic numbers.
If no:
then: you're probably fine.

In fact, a lot of planes listed in airforces are in less than ideal conditions. There hasn't been a military conflict for decades, so air forces haven't been looking after their planes as well as they could have.

So if you conquer some tiny state and absorb its airforce? Refit time, mate. It'd probably be cheaper to just build new ones.

The GDP of the nations I've conquered are 15 billion...combined. Algeria's GDP is 166.5 billion. There's now way in heck I'm using any of there vehicles. Assuming they even had tanks or even jeeps.
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| September 30, 2010, 11:15 pm
Quoting Thomas N
The way I see it, the control of this group comes down to one thing.

You and Awe, being from the central power base in Europe/Africa, are admins, and rightfully so.

I guess I'm the one out of the east who has become an admin.

But Nick pretty much represents the power base that is the America's, and therefore I protest his removal from Admin position. Which you should find, displeases most people here.

I support this.
Evil dictatorships are a must.
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| September 30, 2010, 11:18 pm
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India, in response to terrorist activities, any person of Pakistani origin carrying a weapon within India Proper will be immediately incarcerated. Those that have moved into India have been registered so as to have their whereabouts monitored.

The Pakistani border has been sealed. Emissaries from Pakistan assure India that these are only certain elements within the population, not the whole and wish to avoid draconian measures.

Speaking of which, the B-1 crews have been ordered to stand down from their mission. When debriefed, the pilots admitted they might have deliberately missed to avoid the wholesale slaughter of so many men.

News of the SRGL's treachery (perfectly willing to let scores of their own men die) have been put out on the streets of India, showing the terrorists (who somehow thought supporting a country more than 11,000 km away was a good idea) that the SRGL will no doubt abandon them too, as soon as they feel like it. With no outside support (naval patrols tripling to ensure that) the insurgency will no doubt soon whither.
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| September 30, 2010, 11:18 pm
Quoting Evan Melick
So what exactly just happened?

My response to this was whaaaaa-too
But apparently Cliffe did a calm admin like rage/quite and removed Nick from Admin position.
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| September 30, 2010, 11:20 pm
Quoting Ultramarine .
India, in response to terrorist activities, any person of Pakistani origin carrying a weapon within India Proper will be immediately incarcerated. Those that have moved into India have been registered so as to have their whereabouts monitored.

The Pakistani border has been sealed. Emissaries from Pakistan assure India that these are only certain elements within the population, not the whole and wish to avoid draconian measures.

Speaking of which, the B-1 crews have been ordered to stand down from their mission. When debriefed, the pilots admitted they might have deliberately missed to avoid the wholesale slaughter of so many men.

News of the SRGL's treachery (perfectly willing to let scores of their own men die) have been put out on the streets of India, showing the terrorists (who somehow thought supporting a country more than 11,000 km away was a good idea) that the SRGL will no doubt abandon them too, as soon as they feel like it. With no outside support (naval patrols tripling to ensure that) the insurgency will no doubt soon whither.

I'd be willing to send over 30 LUV-1's to help control the terrorist threats, it would give the operators some urban combat experience.
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| September 30, 2010, 11:22 pm
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Quoting Jake H.
The GDP of the nations I've conquered are 15 billion...combined. Algeria's GDP is 166.5 billion. There's now way in heck I'm using any of there vehicles. Assuming they even had tanks or even jeeps.

They've probably got them, they just likely aren't in very good condition. T-55s are about the best you could expect. What I'm saying is, if you invade a country that uses the same type of fighter you do, and take their jets, you'll probably have to do a lot of fixing to get them in combat ready condition.

_____

Cliffe; banning Nick isn't a very nice thing to do. He hasn't done anything to attract wrath other than be himself. Nick invades people. That's just what he does.

If you don't have villains to stir things up, there isn't really much point in having the group, is there? Everyone will be at peace and nothing interesting will happen.
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| September 30, 2010, 11:22 pm
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Quoting Kaiser Pharaoh Cliffe

Goodbye, Nicky boi. It's been delightful.


Cliffe, as much as I like you, I've had enough of your Angeloi-style diplomacy (Evan gets what I mean). I'm sure while others rejoice, many will not be happy with this heavy-handed action. Good day, sir.

/Civ IV declaration of war noise


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| September 30, 2010, 11:23 pm
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Quoting Evan Melick
So what exactly just happened?

Ham was doing a ragequit, so Cliffe kicked Nick out of the group.
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| September 30, 2010, 11:24 pm
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Quoting Jake H.
I'd be willing to send over 30 LUV-1's to help control the terrorist threats, it would give the operators some urban combat experience.

Oh, thank you, but I have the situation under control. They're only a handful of men, and they don't have access to explosives anymore.
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| September 30, 2010, 11:24 pm
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Oh, I invited Nick back. Do as you will, I like giving people a chance to explain themselves (except in the COP, which has rules about these things).
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| September 30, 2010, 11:25 pm
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Cliffe. I will fight you in the air, land and sea, and your aggression will achieve nothing but failure. You have crossed the line this time.

You. Must. DIE.
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| September 30, 2010, 11:25 pm
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Mah Bois, these ban is nothing! This disgrace is nothing! This revenge is EVERYTHING.
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| September 30, 2010, 11:28 pm
Someone please stop this.
If Cliffe and Nick don't figure something out, this group which is still growing at a fast rate will fall apart.
Nick might create his own group, which will mean a split in the population of both groups. There simply aren't enough people on this website to support two of these groups.
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| September 30, 2010, 11:28 pm
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Quoting Jake H.
Someone please stop this.
If Cliffe and Nick don't figure something out, this group which is still growing at a fast rate will fall apart.
Nick might create his own group, which will mean a split in the population of both groups. There simply aren't enough people on this website to support two of these groups.


Oh, we're not gonna do that. We're gonna fight over it here and now.

/turns on Requiem for a Dream

Let's do this.
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| September 30, 2010, 11:29 pm
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Quoting Jake H.
Someone please stop this.
If Cliffe and Nick don't figure something out, this group which is still growing at a fast rate will fall apart.
Nick might create his own group, which will mean a split in the population of both groups. There simply aren't enough people on this website to support two of these groups.

I'm not making my own group. I'm sticking to this group. However, I've been wronged this time, with no provocation.
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| September 30, 2010, 11:29 pm
Quoting Nick Shelton
Cliffe. I will fight you in the air, land and sea, and your aggression will achieve nothing but failure. You have crossed the line this time.

You. Must. DIE.

I'm willing to give the PCU support where I see fit.
Cliffe by banning Nick just because he tried to reunite America, you have made yourself multiple enemies.
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| September 30, 2010, 11:30 pm
Quoting Awesome-o-saurus The Not-So-Great

Oh, we're not gonna do that. We're gonna fight over it here and now.

/turns on Requiem for a Dream

Let's do this.

Yusssss
I trust Rome will participate?

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| September 30, 2010, 11:31 pm
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Quoting Jake H.
Yusssss
I trust Rome will participate?


Quoting Awesome-o-saurus The Not-So-Great

Cliffe, as much as I like you, I've had enough of your Angeloi-style diplomacy (Evan gets what I mean). I'm sure while others rejoice, many will not be happy with this heavy-handed action. Good day, sir.

/Civ IV declaration of war noise


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| September 30, 2010, 11:32 pm
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Quoting Awesome-o-saurus The Not-So-Great

Quoting John Dawn

Quoting Ultramarine .

FM please.


Who's going to be the CM?
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| September 30, 2010, 11:33 pm
Quoting Areetsa C
Quoting Awesome-o-saurus The Not-So-Great

Quoting John Dawn

Quoting Ultramarine .

FM please.


Who's going to be the CM?

Awww what about me?
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| September 30, 2010, 11:36 pm
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Quoting Areetsa C


Who's going to be the CM?


Evan, most likely. Jeffrey Smith is a good choice, but he's vanished.
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| September 30, 2010, 11:36 pm
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Quoting Kaiser Pharaoh Cliffe

Sorry, but in my humble opinion you are off your rocker.

It happens in this game. People get wiped out. Have you ever played Risk? Yep, happens there too.

You thought it was over in Africa? Nick was an ally of mine. So, I'm giving you an opponent's fair warning and telling you to be on guard, sir.
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| September 30, 2010, 11:38 pm
Now THIS is the freaking WWIII I've been waiting for. Troops are to immediately pull out of the Japanese theater. Good game Brendan, it's been fun. Cliffe, your head would look good on the end of a pole!
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| September 30, 2010, 11:40 pm
It was once said that if BEAR felt like it we could bulldoze through Europe. I think Germany fits the bill here.
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| September 30, 2010, 11:42 pm
Quoting John Moffatt
Now THIS is the freaking WWIII I've been waiting for.

Inorite?
/shivers/ I'm sooo excited.
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| September 30, 2010, 11:43 pm
Hay guyz...

It was actually all just a... joke.

Seriously!

I was planning on simply letting Nick back in with a temporary new MOCpages profile; I didn't know you could just invite him back in.

I'm totally fine with SRGL moving to Mexico. Now the Pacific Empire's borders look nice and tidy! :D

The main point is here, folks, that I am not at all afraid to ban people, because I did just that! Ha! And as it turns out, it really isn't that big of a deal anyway.

Welcome back Nicky boi, I must admit, it was actually heIIa scary banning you, and I know I would have missed you.
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| September 30, 2010, 11:44 pm
Quoting Kaiser Pharaoh Cliffe
Hay guyz...

It was actually all just a... joke.

Seriously!

I was planning on simply letting Nick back in with a temporary new MOCpages profile; I didn't know you could just invite him back in.

I'm totally fine with SRGL moving to Mexico. Now the Pacific Empire's borders look nice and tidy! :D

The main point is here, folks, that I am not at all afraid to ban people, because I did just that! Ha! And as it turns out, it really isn't that big of a deal anyway.

Welcome back Nicky boi, I must admit, it was actually heIIa scary banning you, and I know I would have missed you.

But...but...
What about world war III!
/throws tantrum/
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| September 30, 2010, 11:45 pm
Yes, I DID just pull off the prank of the century.

Be jealous, dawgz.
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| September 30, 2010, 11:45 pm
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Quoting Jake H.
Awww what about me?

What I'm trying to do at the moment doesn't really involve you. Not trying to exclude you or anything, but you're in Africa, and I'm in Europe. We're on different fronts.

You should probably check with Avalella and the rest of the African Union and see where they stand.

_____

Mobilizing the rest of my forces right now.

My airforce is fuelling up at the moment, and I'm going to look at doing the rest of the numbers for my fighters (I've done bombers, choppers and utility) as soon as there's a lull in the conversation.

Hopefully, this won't fizzle like all the other Third World Wars we've had so far.
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| September 30, 2010, 11:45 pm
Or.... we could invade you anyway.
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| September 30, 2010, 11:45 pm
Quoting Areetsa C
What I'm trying to do at the moment doesn't really involve you. Not trying to exclude you or anything, but you're in Africa, and I'm in Europe. We're on different fronts.

You should probably check with Avalella and the rest of the African Union and see where they stand.

_____

Mobilizing the rest of my forces right now.

My airforce is fuelling up at the moment, and I'm going to look at doing the rest of the numbers for my fighters (I've done bombers, choppers and utility) as soon as there's a lull in the conversation.

Hopefully, this won't fizzle like all the other Third World Wars we've had so far.

Dude. If we can get Ian off of his butt we might have the full force of BEAR going against Cliffe.

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| September 30, 2010, 11:46 pm
Quoting Areetsa C
What I'm trying to do at the moment doesn't really involve you. Not trying to exclude you or anything, but you're in Africa, and I'm in Europe. We're on different fronts.

You should probably check with Avalella and the rest of the African Union and see where they stand.

_____


Already done.
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| September 30, 2010, 11:46 pm
And I really didn't come up with this on the spot to save myself because I'm supposed to be in bed right now- I wasn't able to see your comments. I ninja'd my way down to another computer just to say this.

I think I can stay here, though, it seems my parents can't hear me...
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| September 30, 2010, 11:47 pm
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Aand frak, it's fizzled.
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| September 30, 2010, 11:47 pm
Quoting John Moffatt
Or.... we could invade you anyway.

Agreed.
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| September 30, 2010, 11:47 pm
Quoting Areetsa C

My airforce is fuelling up at the moment, and I'm going to look at doing the rest of the numbers for my fighters (I've done bombers, choppers and utility) as soon as there's a lull in the conversation.

Hopefully, this won't fizzle like all the other Third World Wars we've had so far.

If we can get all of BEAR going here.... This will be fun
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| September 30, 2010, 11:47 pm
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Quoting Kaiser Pharaoh Cliffe
Hay guyz...

It was actually all just a... joke.

Seriously!

I was planning on simply letting Nick back in with a temporary new MOCpages profile; I didn't know you could just invite him back in.

I'm totally fine with SRGL moving to Mexico. Now the Pacific Empire's borders look nice and tidy! :D

The main point is here, folks, that I am not at all afraid to ban people, because I did just that! Ha! And as it turns out, it really isn't that big of a deal anyway.

Welcome back Nicky boi, I must admit, it was actually heIIa scary banning you, and I know I would have missed you.

You sir.


Are an |diot.
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| September 30, 2010, 11:47 pm
Quoting Areetsa C
Aand frak, it's fizzled.

da h***?
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| September 30, 2010, 11:48 pm
Quoting John Moffatt
If we can get all of BEAR going here.... This will be fun

I should be able to get the African Alliance mobilized too.
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| September 30, 2010, 11:48 pm
Quoting Areetsa C
Aand frak, it's fizzled.

I LMAO'D so intensely I may have completely frakked myself, compromising my location.
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| September 30, 2010, 11:48 pm
Quoting Areetsa C
Aand frak, it's fizzled.

Or..... we could invade him anyway

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| September 30, 2010, 11:49 pm
Quoting Nick Shelton
You sir.


Are an |diot.

Now everybody dislikes Cliffe because he ruined World War III.
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| September 30, 2010, 11:49 pm
Quoting Nick Shelton
You sir.


Are an |diot.

No, really Nick, I couldn't bear to really and truly ban you.

Plus, I already got the laughs I was looking for (this is one of them!). Complete mission success for me.
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| September 30, 2010, 11:50 pm
Quoting Jake H.
Now everybody dislikes Cliffe because he ruined World War III.

No. This dislike is another reason to keep it going.
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| September 30, 2010, 11:50 pm
Quoting Jake H.
Now everybody dislikes Cliffe because he ruined World War III.

I'm being targeted because I ruined WWIII, yet WWIII was going to be all about everybody targeting me?

%(
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| September 30, 2010, 11:51 pm
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Quoting Kaiser Pharaoh Cliffe
I LMAO'D so intensely I may have completely frakked myself, compromising my location.

And his Admin status?
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| September 30, 2010, 11:51 pm
Quoting Kaiser Pharaoh Cliffe
No, really Nick, I couldn't bear to really and truly ban you.

Plus, I already got the laughs I was looking for (this is one of them!). Complete mission success for me.

And everyone else now has some motive to invade you. Good show
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| September 30, 2010, 11:51 pm
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Quoting Kaiser Pharaoh Cliffe

...



My actions still stand. Nick's banning, even if a joke (which I don't buy), was merely spark to fuel that was there.

I will meet you on the field of battle.
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| September 30, 2010, 11:52 pm
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Let's all try and make Cliffe laugh. We might not be able to invade him, but we can sure get him banned from the internet.
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| September 30, 2010, 11:52 pm
Quoting John Moffatt
No. This dislike is another reason to keep it going.

And it's going to make you look like a fooI by attacking me just because I banned someone, then they came back easily...

I'm getting a little scared, yo.

Just a little...
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| September 30, 2010, 11:52 pm
Quoting Kaiser Pharaoh Cliffe
I'm being targeted because I ruined WWIII, yet WWIII was going to be all about everybody targeting me?

%(

It's confusing, I know.
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| September 30, 2010, 11:53 pm
Quoting Awesome-o-saurus The Not-So-Great


I will meet you on the field of battle.

As shall I.
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| September 30, 2010, 11:54 pm
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Quoting Kaiser Pharaoh Cliffe
And it's going to make you look like a fooI by attacking me just because I banned someone, then they came back easily...

I'm getting a little scared, yo.

Just a little...

Just enough to make you sweat...

Quoting John Moffatt
As shall I.

India pledges its troops...

*recreate scene from Prince Caspian*
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| September 30, 2010, 11:54 pm
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Quoting Awesome-o-saurus The Not-So-Great

My actions still stand. Nick's banning, even if a joke (which I don't buy), was merely spark to fuel that was there.

I will meet you on the field of battle.

*likes*

Anyhow, France feels quite congruent with Rome. I smell BS somewhere between banning and /ragequiting to a "prank" and lulz. It seems the boots' R&R may be relinquished for the moment as defensive patrols to increase security in this set of times is quite needed.
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| September 30, 2010, 11:54 pm
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To arms my brothers! To arms!
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| September 30, 2010, 11:55 pm
I've said this before, but DANG do I love being a bad guy.
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| September 30, 2010, 11:56 pm
And I thought I took this group way too seriously...

Awe, really, It's not a big deal. At all. I'm so sorry. You have to forgive me, it was only to try and teach a lesson, and it had some success.

Plus, if I'm gone, who's going to be there besides Nick when someone decides to attack you?

Aaaaaand, I just gave Nick his Admin status too, because I honestly want to be allies with him now. I love all of his creations, and he's been one of my best friends and allies ever since the beginning. I honestly can't do without him.

Doesn't anyone remember back when Nick and I were the underdogs, and he was one of the few members of the PCU who supported me?

I always kinda missed those days.
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| September 30, 2010, 11:58 pm
Quoting John Moffatt
I've said this before, but DANG do I love being a bad guy.

Hehe I had planned for this scheme of MINE to cause world war III but as I told Awe Cliffe did it for me.
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| September 30, 2010, 11:59 pm
Quoting Jake H.
Hehe I had planned for this scheme of MINE to cause world war III but as I told Awe Cliffe did it for me.

I've come close once or twice.
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| October 1, 2010, 12:01 am
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Quoting Kaiser Pharaoh Cliffe

Awe, really, It's not a big deal. At all. I'm so sorry. You have to forgive me, it was only to try and teach a lesson, and it had some success.

Plus, if I'm gone, who's going to be there besides Nick when someone decides to attack you?



Banning a member as a joke is rather... Well, it's like the Stamp Act the British used on the Colonies. A tense situation sparked into something much worse by a bad move. That bad move happens to be another in a line of questionable moves.

And I have no intention of making you gone. When everyone turns on me, and even if Nick isn't there, I fight. The Empire has fallen without allies once, and it was a glorious end. If it is to be so again, I wouldn't have it any other way.

That, and there's no way I'm buying it was an actual prank.
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| October 1, 2010, 12:01 am
Quoting Awesome-o-saurus The Not-So-Great


That, and there's no way I'm buying it was an actual prank.

You still with us then?
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| October 1, 2010, 12:03 am
You know what I might do? I might just ban, then re-invite everyone just to what happens.
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| October 1, 2010, 12:04 am
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Quoting Awesome-o-saurus The Not-So-Great
And I have no intention of making you gone. When everyone turns on me, and even if Nick isn't there, I fight. The Empire has fallen without allies once, and it was a glorious end. If it is to be so again, I wouldn't have it any other way.

You should probably know by now that I'd help. A, because my state is a classic Blood Knight organization, and B, because with you gone who'd make all the wonderful tanks?

Besides, we all know Cliffe will just restart in South America or somewhere like that.

Quoting Nick Shelton
To arms my brothers! To arms!

http://mocpages.com/moc.php/218217

Quoting Kaiser Pharaoh Cliffe
You know what I might do? I might just ban, then re-invite everyone just to what happens.

Quick, someone de-admin Cliffe!

He hasn't started deleting people's posts to undermine them yet, but he's probably close.
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| October 1, 2010, 12:04 am
Quoting Kaiser Pharaoh Cliffe
And I thought I took this group way too seriously...

Awe, really, It's not a big deal. At all. I'm so sorry. You have to forgive me, it was only to try and teach a lesson, and it had some success.

Plus, if I'm gone, who's going to be there besides Nick when someone decides to attack you?

Aaaaaand, I just gave Nick his Admin status too, because I honestly want to be allies with him now. I love all of his creations, and he's been one of my best friends and allies ever since the beginning. I honestly can't do without him.

Doesn't anyone remember back when Nick and I were the underdogs, and he was one of the few members of the PCU who supported me?

I always kinda missed those days.

Cliffe I like you and your MOCs too, does that mean I like Prusso-Egypt? No, it annoys me.
The real world is different from this game.
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| October 1, 2010, 12:04 am
Quoting Awesome-o-saurus The Not-So-Great

Banning a member as a joke is rather... Well, it's like the Stamp Act the British used on the Colonies. A tense situation sparked into something much worse by a bad move. That bad move happens to be another in a line of questionable moves.

And I have no intention of making you gone. When everyone turns on me, and even if Nick isn't there, I fight. The Empire has fallen without allies once, and it was a glorious end. If it is to be so again, I wouldn't have it any other way.

That, and there's no way I'm buying it was an actual prank.

I specifically explained how it was an actual prank...
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| October 1, 2010, 12:05 am
Quoting Thomas N
I would greatly like to be the conflict moderator. I have always enjoyed the position, but have found precious few chances to put myself into said position.

Me and India have already sent reports to Evan.
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| October 1, 2010, 12:06 am
 Group moderator 
Quoting Kaiser Pharaoh Cliffe
I specifically explained how it was an actual prank...

And we specifically explained that we smell BS in the air. See how that works?
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| October 1, 2010, 12:06 am
 Group admin 
Quoting Kaiser Pharaoh Cliffe
I specifically explained how it was an actual prank...


Banning someone legit-ly and then saying it was a joke works exactly fine, too. I'm just saying, I don't believe it started as a joke. And even if it was, it's not exactly... acceptable... Not by most people's standards (you're not most people, though). I'm saying it was a bad move. And given past decisions such as seemingly betraying your allies and then betraying the one you betrayed them to is not a good move either. You've managed to irk me to this point with many small things, and it's time to settle them.

@Moffat: Of course I'm still with you.
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| October 1, 2010, 12:07 am
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Quoting Kaiser Pharaoh Cliffe
I specifically explained how it was an actual prank...

And what happens next time someone invades your pal? Will it be a prank then too?

Right now it seems we either stand together or get banned alone.
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| October 1, 2010, 12:09 am
Everyone...

Prusso-Egypt is one of the most meaningful things in my life, sadly enough. Living the way I do brings very little meaning to me otherwise.

If you destroy Prusso-Egypt, or even take any of its territory besides Mesopotamia I suppose, I will leave MOCpages and never touch my legos again, for I will find no meaning in any of it.

I will also be a depressed wreck the rest of my high school and probably also my college years because I will have very little meaning in life.

Do you guys really think engaging Prusso-Egypt is worth the "fun" of having a WWIII?

Besides, if you all really do go for it, I'm simply going to delete the group as well as my account and you won't even have the chance to fight me.
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| October 1, 2010, 12:09 am
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Quoting Jake H.
Me and India have already sent reports to Evan.

Might be a good idea to have multiple CMs in this case, though. To prevent bias and stuff. Besides, this is shaping up to be huge. There's a lot of work involved with this many members.
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| October 1, 2010, 12:10 am
Quoting Ultramarine .
And what happens next time someone invades your pal? Will it be a prank then too?

Right now it seems we either stand together or get banned alone.

No one understands the idea that getting banned means NOTHING...

Nick was simply able to be re-invited back into the group.
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| October 1, 2010, 12:10 am
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Quoting Kaiser Pharaoh Cliffe


If you destroy Prusso-Egypt, or even take any of its territory besides Mesopotamia I suppose, I will leave MOCpages and never touch my legos again, for I will find no meaning in any of it.


I have no intention of destroying you.

I just have the intention of making a stand.
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| October 1, 2010, 12:11 am
Quoting Awesome-o-saurus The Not-So-Great

I have no intention of destroying you.

I just have the intention of making a stand.

And... what would that entail?

No matter what, I'm not going to attack you.
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| October 1, 2010, 12:12 am
Quoting Kaiser Pharaoh Cliffe
Everyone...

Prusso-Egypt is one of the most meaningful things in my life, sadly enough. Living the way I do brings very little meaning to me otherwise.

If you destroy Prusso-Egypt, or even take any of its territory besides Mesopotamia I suppose, I will leave MOCpages and never touch my legos again, for I will find no meaning in any of it.

I will also be a depressed wreck the rest of my high school and probably also my college years because I will have very little meaning in life.

Do you guys really think engaging Prusso-Egypt is worth the "fun" of having a WWIII?

Besides, if you all really do go for it, I'm simply going to delete the group as well as my account and you won't even have the chance to fight me.

I KNEW you would say that.
And guess what I understand, however, after we invade and pillage you I'm sure we'd all be more than willing to give you back Germany, Egypt and that little country below.
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| October 1, 2010, 12:14 am
Quoting Kaiser Pharaoh Cliffe
No one understands the idea that getting banned means NOTHING...

Nick was simply able to be re-invited back into the group.

Prusso Egypt's grown too powerful. You still have a chance, and depending on how you fight you might walk away with more or less territory.
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| October 1, 2010, 12:15 am
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Quoting Kaiser Pharaoh Cliffe
And... what would that entail?

No matter what, I'm not going to attack you.


We'll see. It entails war, yes, but I care not for land north of the Danube, and Egypt is of limited use to me anyway. You know where I'm headed.
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| October 1, 2010, 12:15 am
(Sigh)... I'm tired of all this conflict. I was really looking forward to some peace so I could build civilian MOCs at a leisurely pace.

Yes, I have really been looking forward to building civilian MOCs.

If all of you think this is just a group for fighting and killing each other, then maybe I need to make ANOTHER group...
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| October 1, 2010, 12:15 am
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Quoting Kaiser Pharaoh Cliffe
Everyone...

Prusso-Egypt is one of the most meaningful things in my life, sadly enough. Living the way I do brings very little meaning to me otherwise.

If you destroy Prusso-Egypt, or even take any of its territory besides Mesopotamia I suppose, I will leave MOCpages and never touch my legos again, for I will find no meaning in any of it.

I will also be a depressed wreck the rest of my high school and probably also my college years because I will have very little meaning in life.


If you can't take the possible consequences of your actions, you shouldn't have been standing on the edge and getting involved in wars that don't concern you.

Quoting Kaiser Pharaoh Cliffe
Besides, if you all really do go for it, I'm simply going to delete the group as well as my account and you won't even have the chance to fight me.

That's why you're probably going to find yourself reduced to a moderator for the duration of this conflict. You're not exactly the poster boy for responsible use of power.
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| October 1, 2010, 12:15 am
Mongolia advises any invading forces to stay out of Munich until at least the 5th. Just trust me <.<
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| October 1, 2010, 12:15 am
Quoting Areetsa C
Might be a good idea to have multiple CMs in this case, though. To prevent bias and stuff. Besides, this is shaping up to be huge. There's a lot of work involved with this many members.

You're right....





Yaaaaay for World War III, looks like we got our wish.
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| October 1, 2010, 12:16 am
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Quoting Kaiser Pharaoh Cliffe
If all of you think this is just a group for fighting and killing each other, then maybe I need to make ANOTHER group...

Nono. Evan and I want our turn. We already have the new group planned after this one becomes a stagnant mess.
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| October 1, 2010, 12:17 am
 Group admin 
It looks like my fellow disgruntled members seem to be intent on conquering. I'll advise them a full invasion is folly.
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| October 1, 2010, 12:17 am
Quoting Jake H.
I KNEW you would say that.
And guess what I understand, however, after we invade and pillage you I'm sure we'd all be more than willing to give you back Germany, Egypt and that little country below.

Yeah, well, I'm not going to fight, because I'm frikkin tired of it. I need to tend more to the real world anyway...

Just forget it everybody, no matter what you're not going to get the fight you're looking for. I can always just delete my account, and I'm gone.

So unless you no longer want Prusso-Egypt around to add spice to your precious conflicts, then keep at it.
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| October 1, 2010, 12:19 am
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Quoting Kaiser Pharaoh Cliffe
(Sigh)... I'm tired of all this conflict. I was really looking forward to some peace so I could build civilian MOCs at a leisurely pace.

Yes, I have really been looking forward to building civilian MOCs.

If all of you think this is just a group for fighting and killing each other, then maybe I need to make ANOTHER group...

No-one dies in this group. They simply restart in a different place. Before long, people are probably going to start cutting loose bits of their territory because they can't afford to defend it all.

Besides: there's no fun in peacefully trading things back and forth. Maybe in a different game format, but with this system, the only interesting things happen during times of war. If it was just economic things, nothing would happen, we'd have one ICF thread being used for months on end and eventually the group would die.
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| October 1, 2010, 12:19 am
Quoting Awesome-o-saurus The Not-So-Great
It looks like my fellow disgruntled members seem to be intent on conquering. I'll advise them a full invasion is folly.

I'm a dim-witted kind of guy. To put it bluntly, I'm a bad guy. I'm doin' it for the lols.
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| October 1, 2010, 12:19 am
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Quoting Kaiser Pharaoh Cliffe

*Sigh*

You'll get over it, trust me. Coming from someone several years your elder, there's lots more to look forward to.

I will wait for the group consensus on this. However, if you get Ham off my back with his little insurgents, I will halt military actions against Prusso-Egypt; pending decision.
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| October 1, 2010, 12:19 am
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Quoting Kaiser Pharaoh Cliffe


Just forget it everybody, no matter what you're not going to get the fight you're looking for. I can always just delete my account, and I'm gone.


And you say we take this group too seriously...

It's not you, directly, we're angering at. It's your actions.

Well, for me anyways. And as Areetsa says, nothing happens without war in these. We're teens, it's what we do.
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| October 1, 2010, 12:21 am
Quoting Kaiser Pharaoh Cliffe
Yeah, well, I'm not going to fight, because I'm frikkin tired of it. I need to tend more to the real world anyway...

Just forget it everybody, no matter what you're not going to get the fight you're looking for. I can always just delete my account, and I'm gone.

So unless you no longer want Prusso-Egypt around to add spice to your precious conflicts, then keep at it.

Your empires too big, you know that right? This was bound to happen.
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| October 1, 2010, 12:22 am
Quoting Awesome-o-saurus The Not-So-Great
It looks like my fellow disgruntled members seem to be intent on conquering. I'll advise them a full invasion is folly.

Aaaaand I'm just going to sit on the border with anti-tank and artillery units and such... well, actually, I won't even do that. Like I said, I'm too tired to fight.

You know what I'm going to do?

I'm going to fly my personal Hyperfalcon all around the world and see what happens. Rome is first. It will be completely unarmed, too. Not even flares or chaff.

Also, no ejection seat.

I just DARE you all to shoot me down.

I'll be taking off shortly and will be keeping in contact with y'all.
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| October 1, 2010, 12:22 am
 Group admin 
Quoting Kaiser Pharaoh Cliffe

I'm going to fly my personal Hyperfalcon all around the world and see what happens. Rome is first. It will be completely unarmed, too. Not even flares or chaff.



Rome is lame, go for Constantinople. I know you wouldn't dare destroy such a center of culture and history.

Meanwhile, you get over your angst at facing the consequences of something you did, and we do what we do best: Fight it out.
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| October 1, 2010, 12:24 am
*warms up coil guns* Go ahead. Make my day.
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| October 1, 2010, 12:24 am
Quoting Awesome-o-saurus The Not-So-Great

And you say we take this group too seriously...

It's not you, directly, we're angering at. It's your actions.

Well, for me anyways. And as Areetsa says, nothing happens without war in these. We're teens, it's what we do.

We WERE raised on bloody FPS games...
well not me, I spent my childhood playing Galactic Battlegrounds, a true classic.
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| October 1, 2010, 12:24 am
 Group moderator 
How about a deal, then: you find some kind of enemy-to-everyone, and we'll invade them and leave you alone. A James Bond style supervillain, for instance. Because otherwise, none of us are going to invade our neighbors lest someone else invade us, and you're probably the only member who isn't involved in some kind of regional defense pact.


Or generally awesome like Awe. We all love Awe because he makes tanks for us.
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| October 1, 2010, 12:25 am
Quoting Awesome-o-saurus The Not-So-Great

And you say we take this group too seriously...

It's not you, directly, we're angering at. It's your actions.

Well, for me anyways. And as Areetsa says, nothing happens without war in these. We're teens, it's what we do.

Well then, since I'm not going to fight, here are your options.

>invade and destroy me

>invade and pillage me, which to me will have about the same effect... I dunno, maybe I'll let you do that and come back and keep playing. It doesn't sound tooooo bad.

>just forget about all of it and go back to what we were doing before all of this started
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| October 1, 2010, 12:25 am
 Group admin 
Quoting Kaiser Pharaoh Cliffe
Aaaaand I'm just going to sit on the border with anti-tank and artillery units and such... well, actually, I won't even do that. Like I said, I'm too tired to fight.

You know what I'm going to do?

I'm going to fly my personal Hyperfalcon all around the world and see what happens. Rome is first. It will be completely unarmed, too. Not even flares or chaff.

Also, no ejection seat.

I just DARE you all to shoot me down.

I'll be taking off shortly and will be keeping in contact with y'all.

I call dibs on shooting it.
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| October 1, 2010, 12:25 am
Quoting Kaiser Pharaoh Cliffe
Well then, since I'm not going to fight, here are your options.

>invade and destroy me

>invade and pillage me, which to me will have about the same effect... I dunno, maybe I'll let you do that and come back and keep playing. It doesn't sound tooooo bad.

>just forget about all of it and go back to what we were doing before all of this started

I pick B!
Although we might as well just divide your lands between us.
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| October 1, 2010, 12:26 am
Quoting Areetsa C
How about a deal, then: you find some kind of enemy-to-everyone, and we'll invade them and leave you alone. A James Bond style supervillain, for instance. Because otherwise, none of us are going to invade our neighbors lest someone else invade us, and you're probably the only member who isn't involved in some kind of regional defense pact.


Or generally awesome like Awe. We all love Awe because he makes tanks for us.

I really, really like this idea, bro...

If allowed, I'll get right on it. I can come up with some wonderful ideas, you know.
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| October 1, 2010, 12:26 am
 Group admin 
Quoting Kaiser Pharaoh Cliffe


>invade land which once was under your historical borders


That's my option...
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| October 1, 2010, 12:26 am
Quoting Kaiser Pharaoh Cliffe
Well then, since I'm not going to fight, here are your options.

>invade and destroy me

>invade and pillage me, which to me will have about the same effect... I dunno, maybe I'll let you do that and come back and keep playing. It doesn't sound tooooo bad.

>just forget about all of it and go back to what we were doing before all of this started

How about 1.5? Invade, pillage, and destroy?
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| October 1, 2010, 12:27 am
Quoting Nick Shelton
I call dibs on shooting it.

I'm flying over Rome right now. I'll be right over. Get your SAMs ready.
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| October 1, 2010, 12:27 am
Quoting John Moffatt
How about 1.5? Invade, pillage, and destroy?

You're right, that's better.

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| October 1, 2010, 12:28 am
Quoting Awesome-o-saurus The Not-So-Great

That's my option...

I... I don't get it.
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| October 1, 2010, 12:28 am
Quoting Jake H.
You're right, that's better.

I thought so. It seemed the more maniacally evil thing to do.

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| October 1, 2010, 12:29 am
Quoting Kaiser Pharaoh Cliffe
and keep playing. It doesn't sound tooooo bad.

>just forget about all of it and go back to what we were doing before all of this started

So wishing this all would happened even though it did, we just don't remember it because everybody's too chicken for world war III, which is what we were just discussing?
X_X
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| October 1, 2010, 12:30 am
Quoting Kaiser Pharaoh Cliffe
I... I don't get it.

Actions=Consequences
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| October 1, 2010, 12:30 am
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Quoting Kaiser Pharaoh Cliffe
I... I don't get it.


It means I'm going for my historical victory.

Goal 1: Control all the Balkans south of the Danube (Complete).
Goal 2: Control all areas in Asia that were controlled in 1025.
Goal 3: Sell over 9000 tanks?
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| October 1, 2010, 12:31 am
Quoting John Moffatt
I thought so. It seemed the more maniacally evil thing to do.

WHAT IS UP WITH THIS GROUP AND EVIL PEOPLE???

I'm about die of... something horrible...
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| October 1, 2010, 12:31 am
 Group admin 
Quoting Kaiser Pharaoh Cliffe
I... I don't get it.

It means "AUAUAUAUA."
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| October 1, 2010, 12:33 am
Quoting Kaiser Pharaoh Cliffe
WHAT IS UP WITH THIS GROUP AND EVIL PEOPLE???


Well we're normally nice people so, we practice are inner evil in this group.
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| October 1, 2010, 12:34 am
 Group moderator 
Quoting Kaiser Pharaoh Cliffe
I... I don't get it.

Germany used to call itself the Holy Roman Empire. We know Awe holds grudges for a long, long time.

2+2=?
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| October 1, 2010, 12:34 am
Nailed it, Jake. I have nothing against you Cliffe. I'm sure you're a wonderful guy. Of course, Cole and Brendan are nice guys too
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| October 1, 2010, 12:36 am
Quoting Awesome-o-saurus The Not-So-Great

It means I'm going for my historical victory.

Goal 1: Control all the Balkans south of the Danube (Complete).
Goal 2: Control all areas in Asia that were controlled in 1025.

Roman Empire Time!
I don't think Rome had territory in my part of Africa but if I did, I'd probably give that territory to you or become a vassal.

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| October 1, 2010, 12:36 am
 Group moderator 
Quoting Jake H.
Well we're normally nice people so, we practice are inner evil in this group.

Right. I treat this as a sort of amped-up Risk with resource allocation, interpersonal interaction, and, of course, war.
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| October 1, 2010, 12:37 am
Quoting Ultramarine .
Right. I treat this as a sort of amped-up Risk with resource allocation, interpersonal interaction, and, of course, war.

When I play Risk of Civ I pretty much go all in. It's just more fun that way.

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| October 1, 2010, 12:38 am
Guys, I get what you're saying about actions= consequences and you won't destroy me (except for the "b@d guys"), but I just don't have the guts to fight all of you. Honestly. I like you all too much, for one thing (again, except for the "b@d guys"), and for another, I just have too much to attend to in my real life right now. Trying to get my driver's license, getting my Eagle Scout, becoming qualified to carry a rifle as a reenactor, and quite possibly soon, a new wonderful girlfriend.

It would be really nice if you all could do me a favor, as a friend, and not make me fight all of you. If you do that, I promise you I will never do anything like this ever again (and you know I won't because I'm too afraid of losing Prusso-Egypt), and I'll never bother anybody about too many wars. Plus, I'll be as realistic as I can be. Yes, no more Hyper War Chariots. I have a more realistic Chariot on the way already.
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| October 1, 2010, 12:38 am
 Group moderator 
Quoting Kaiser Pharaoh Cliffe
WHAT IS UP WITH THIS GROUP AND EVIL PEOPLE???

I'm about die of... something horrible...

We like to play at being villains online because A: supervillains get all the fun toys, and B: if we tried being evil in real life we'd probably burst into tears and go cuddle kittens or something like that.
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| October 1, 2010, 12:39 am
 Group admin 
Quoting Areetsa C
Germany used to call itself the Holy Roman Empire. We know Awe holds grudges for a long, long time.

2+2=?


Aside from Rome, Ming China, and the Caliphate during the Golden Age of Islam, Germany is one of my favorite empires.

>.>
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| October 1, 2010, 12:39 am
Quoting Kaiser Pharaoh Cliffe

*Darth Vader-esque inner turmoil*

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| October 1, 2010, 12:40 am
 Group admin 
Quoting Kaiser Pharaoh Cliffe
...


So be it. I'm still gonna take my little slice of land. The others... I'm sure Tom N can take up the mantle of champion, or someone else who is friendly.
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| October 1, 2010, 12:41 am
Quoting Awesome-o-saurus The Not-So-Great

Aside from Rome, Ming China, and the Caliphate during the Golden Age of Islam, Germany is one of my favorite empires.

>.>

DEUTSCHLAAAAAND!!!!!

<.<

>.>

<.>

Sorry, I had to.
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| October 1, 2010, 12:41 am
Quoting Kaiser Pharaoh Cliffe
Guys, I get what you're saying about actions= consequences and you won't destroy me (except for the "b@d guys"), but I just don't have the guts to fight all of you. Honestly. I like you all too much, for one thing (again, except for the "b@d guys"), and for another, I just have too much to attend to in my real life right now. Trying to get my driver's license, getting my Eagle Scout, becoming qualified to carry a rifle as a reenactor, and quite possibly soon, a new wonderful girlfriend.

It would be really nice if you all could do me a favor, as a friend, and not make me fight all of you. If you do that, I promise you I will never do anything like this ever again (and you know I won't because I'm too afraid of losing Prusso-Egypt), and I'll never bother anybody about too many wars. Plus, I'll be as realistic as I can be. Yes, no more Hyper War Chariots. I have a more realistic Chariot on the way already.

I'm actually fine with war chariots, I don't like it when you say I have the best land army because I have thousands of fast attack vehicles.
As for not invading you...well I will not invade Egypt, Germany, or Sudan.

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| October 1, 2010, 12:42 am
Quoting Awesome-o-saurus The Not-So-Great
my little slice of land

What might that be? I'll just move my troops and everything out of it.
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| October 1, 2010, 12:43 am
 Group moderator 
Quoting Kaiser Pharaoh Cliffe
DEUTSCHLAAAAAND!!!!!


You're entitled to it.
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| October 1, 2010, 12:43 am
Quoting Jake H.
I'm actually fine with war chariots, I don't like it when you say I have the best land army because I have thousands of fast attack vehicles.
As for not invading you...well I will not invade Egypt, Germany, or Sudan.

You're awesome. I love you.

But... what would you invade, then? Mesopotamia? How would that work?
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| October 1, 2010, 12:44 am
Quoting Kaiser Pharaoh Cliffe
What might that be? I'll just move my troops and everything out of it.

I want your South West Asia empire weakened.
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| October 1, 2010, 12:44 am
Quoting Ultramarine .
You're entitled to it.

Deutsches... Kaiserreich?
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| October 1, 2010, 12:44 am
 Group admin 
Well, seeing as how Cliffe isn't gonna fight us, and he's been utterly PWNT for two groups in a row. I'm not going to do anything but stand in America and sip tea.

So you can run and tell that. Home boi.
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| October 1, 2010, 12:44 am
 Group admin 
Quoting Kaiser Pharaoh Cliffe
What might that be? I'll just move my troops and everything out of it.


But that takes the fun out of it... I'm going for Syria west of the Euphrates going down to a certain lake/dam, the biggest town is Aleppo. I may take Damascus if I'm feeling evil.

I didn't think that this war would be so easy.
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| October 1, 2010, 12:44 am
Quoting Kaiser Pharaoh Cliffe
You're awesome. I love you.

But... what would you invade, then? Mesopotamia? How would that work?

I dunno I will however hurt Egypt. I just don't like the idea of someone so righteous and so powerful so close to me.
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| October 1, 2010, 12:45 am
Quoting Jake H.
I want your South West Asia empire weakened.

It's not an empire, it's three small Kingdoms...

But whatever, I can do without them entirely. I've never had the time to make MOCs for them.
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| October 1, 2010, 12:45 am
All you people are fizzling my hopes and dreams of war. I obviously can't move on Cliffe alone, so if you have plans to attack him still tell me. If you don't want to in the group shoot me a flickr mail then. I'm a warmonger, but I'm not suicidal.
On a side note, interesting how Cliffe can run things whilst rocketing through the atmosphere....
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| October 1, 2010, 12:46 am
 Group moderator 
Quoting Awesome-o-saurus The Not-So-Great


He found that girlfriends/Eagle scouts/college > Prusso-Egypt after all.
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| October 1, 2010, 12:47 am
Quoting Jake H.
I dunno I will however hurt Egypt. I just don't like the idea of someone so righteous and so powerful so close to me.

Why is having someone righteous close to you a problem?

Hm... I always did kind of want to fight you to show ya who's da boss...
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| October 1, 2010, 12:47 am
Quoting Nick Shelton
Well, seeing as how Cliffe isn't gonna fight us, and he's been utterly PWNT for two groups in a row. I'm not going to do anything but stand in America and sip tea.

So you can run and tell that. Home boi.

Whaaaa...

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| October 1, 2010, 12:47 am
Quoting Kaiser Pharaoh Cliffe
Hm... I always did kind of want to fight you to show ya who's da boss...

I did too :D
Of course it just wouldn't be 'fair' seeing your this big empire so I hope you don't mind if India comes along?
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| October 1, 2010, 12:49 am
My god, the fact that you all fall for Cliffes puppy eyes is sickening. Mabey he should ban you all... for being gullible saps.

@Cliffe I read through all of this. The whole thing. I read this with an open mind. What I saw was a mistake made in anger, then covered by a series of bad explanations.

I hold nothing against you. But this is the internet. Take time to think about what you type.
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| October 1, 2010, 12:49 am
Quoting Kaiser Pharaoh Cliffe
how ya who's da boss...

I was just considering NOT invading.... Now the scales are once again beginning to tip
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| October 1, 2010, 12:49 am
Quoting Ultramarine .
Quoting Awesome-o-saurus The Not-So-Great


He found that girlfriends/Eagle scouts/college > Prusso-Egypt after all.

Well...

Prusso-Egypt > Boy Scouts

Prusso-Egypt = College

...wait, what? Oh, forget it... it works... it sort of makes sense to me...

And, finally,

Love > anything and everything.
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| October 1, 2010, 12:49 am
Quoting John Moffatt
I was just considering NOT invading.... Now the scales are once again beginning to tip

#(@^%(*&@$#)!!!!!
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| October 1, 2010, 12:50 am
Quoting John Moffatt
All you people are fizzling my hopes and dreams of war. I obviously can't move on Cliffe alone, so if you have plans to attack him still tell me. If you don't want to in the group shoot me a flickr mail then. I'm a warmonger, but I'm not suicidal.
On a side note, interesting how Cliffe can run things whilst rocketing through the atmosphere....

I sent you an invite.
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| October 1, 2010, 12:50 am
 Group admin 
Quoting Ian Macdonald
My god, the fact that you all fall for Cliffes puppy eyes is sickening. Mabey he should ban you all... for being gullible saps.

@Cliffe I read through all of this. The whole thing. I read this with an open mind. What I saw was a mistake made in anger, then covered by a series of bad explanations.

I hold nothing against you. But this is the internet. Take time to think about what you type.


Hey, I still don't buy it. I'm gonna invade no matter what. It's not Cliffe I'm mad at, it's what he does, and for that, he must be invaded.

I don't seek to destroy him.
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| October 1, 2010, 12:50 am
Quoting John Moffatt
I was just considering NOT invading.... Now the scales are once again beginning to tip

Hey, you know how it is between me and Algeria, that should be ignored. Besides, I was only thinking about it, I like Algeria too much to seriously hurt them.

Besides, I don't know how I could, really... there isn't very much of anything in Algeria or Mauritania...
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| October 1, 2010, 12:52 am
Quoting Awesome-o-saurus The Not-So-Great

Hey, I still don't buy it. I'm gonna invade no matter what. It's not Cliffe I'm mad at, it's what he does, and for that, he must be invaded.

I don't seek to destroy him.

Forsooth
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| October 1, 2010, 12:52 am
Quoting Kaiser Pharaoh Cliffe
Hey, you know how it is between me and Algeria, that should be ignored. Besides, I was only thinking about it, I like Algeria too much to seriously hurt them.

Besides, I don't know how I could, really... there isn't very much of anything in Algeria or Mauritania...

Algeria's the most recourse rich nation this side of the Euphrates!
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| October 1, 2010, 12:53 am
Quoting Awesome-o-saurus The Not-So-Great

Hey, I still don't buy it. I'm gonna invade no matter what. It's not Cliffe I'm mad at, it's what he does, and for that, he must be invaded.

I don't seek to destroy him.

I've always sat and watched people. I can tell when There is Bs in the air and when people are covering their own @sses. Honestly I don't care, however; the sheer fact that he did it is what bothers me.
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| October 1, 2010, 12:53 am
Quoting Awesome-o-saurus The Not-So-Great

Hey, I still don't buy it. I'm gonna invade no matter what. It's not Cliffe I'm mad at, it's what he does, and for that, he must be invaded.

I don't seek to destroy him.

Then... what are you going to do? Invade, take some stuff and leave?

That's going to look weird.

And I'm going to pull all of my forces out of whatever area you decide to invade...

Because no matter what, I CANNOT KILL A ROMAN. Nor can I have one killed at my hands. Romans are just too awesome. Seriously.
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| October 1, 2010, 12:54 am
 Group admin 
In PCU News!

The PCU is disengaging, and sending the total of 10,000 troops in Newport News north, and all the troops on the Murus Wall (20,000 Reserve) East, to nom up the lands opened up by the SRGL's departure. The ROE are Shoot-Once-Fired-Upon.

Also, the Murus Wall is scheduled to turn into a National Monument starting October 27th, 2036. It has served its country well, preventing the invasion of the SRGL many times.
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| October 1, 2010, 12:54 am
 Group moderator 
Quoting John Moffatt
All you people are fizzling my hopes and dreams of war. I obviously can't move on Cliffe alone, so if you have plans to attack him still tell me. If you don't want to in the group shoot me a flickr mail then. I'm a warmonger, but I'm not suicidal.
On a side note, interesting how Cliffe can run things whilst rocketing through the atmosphere....

World wars are only fun when the whole world's involved.

Dawn'd probably want a few tons of flesh for free passage rights anyway.

Besides, Cliffe's promised to invent some kind of enemy to all man to spice things up during boring periods, so hopefully things'll get interesting in the future.

Probably be a good idea to reduce him to a moderator position though, so it doesn't happen again.
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| October 1, 2010, 12:54 am
Quoting Areetsa C

Besides, Cliffe's promised to invent some kind of enemy to all man to spice things up during boring periods, so hopefully things'll get interesting in the future.

Maybe we'll all get to take turns being North Korea...
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| October 1, 2010, 12:56 am
 Group admin 
Quoting Kaiser Pharaoh Cliffe
Then... what are you going to do? Invade, take some stuff and leave?

That's going to look weird.

And I'm going to pull all of my forces out of whatever area you decide to invade...

Because no matter what, I CANNOT KILL A ROMAN. Nor can I have one killed at my hands. Romans are just too awesome. Seriously.


I'm going to invade, and stay there. That's what Imma do. If you wish to sit back and let it happen, that's fine. You won't be losing that much.

From me, at least.
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| October 1, 2010, 12:56 am
Quoting Awesome-o-saurus The Not-So-Great

I'm going to invade, and stay there. That's what Imma do. If you wish to sit back and let it happen, that's fine. You won't be losing that much.

From me, at least.

Cool, I get FREE ROMANS!!! :D
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| October 1, 2010, 12:57 am
 Group moderator 
So, who's gonna replace Cliffe? After Armageddon, that is...
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| October 1, 2010, 12:59 am
Quoting John Moffatt
On a side note, interesting how Cliffe can run things whilst rocketing through the atmosphere....

I lol'd intensely.

But here's how: Federal Armed Forces Network command interface. The true backbone of the militaries of Prusso-Egypt.
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| October 1, 2010, 1:00 am
Quoting Ultramarine .
So, who's gonna replace Cliffe? After Armageddon, that is...

Replace me in what role...?

I'm pretty sure the good-hearted people like Awesome and Jake are going to try and make sure I'm still around.
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| October 1, 2010, 1:01 am
Quoting Jake H.
Maybe we'll all get to take turns being North Korea...

I.... have.... hmmmmm

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| October 1, 2010, 1:01 am
 Group moderator 
Quoting Kaiser Pharaoh Cliffe
Replace me in what role...?

I'm pretty sure the good-hearted people like Awesome and Jake are going to try and make sure I'm still around.

I thought you said you were leaving? Hoped not, but still.
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| October 1, 2010, 1:02 am
How about this:

I make/use some existing creations for my Kingdom of Assyria, then you all get to invade it while I desperately attempt to defend it?

Is that a good enough plan? I don't like Assyria very much. They're me@n.
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| October 1, 2010, 1:02 am
Quoting John Moffatt
I.... have.... hmmmmm

What you wouldn't let US have just a little bit of fun
/puppy dog eyes/
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| October 1, 2010, 1:05 am
Quoting Kaiser Pharaoh Cliffe
How about this:

I make/use some existing creations for my Kingdom of Assyria, then you all get to invade it while I desperately attempt to defend it?

Is that a good enough plan? I don't like Assyria very much. They're me@n.

Sounds good to me.
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| October 1, 2010, 1:05 am
Things seem to be dying down here, so Imma go to bed. I'll check what's going on again tomorrow morning. I suppose I can be considered the new North Korea. I'd like to blow everything up, but wouldn't be able to manage it on my lonesome.
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| October 1, 2010, 1:06 am
Quoting Jake H.
Sounds good to me.

YES!!! We have one vote!!! Come on guys, you know you want to! King Assur-Denikar is a crazy, unrealistic guy! You know you want after him!
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| October 1, 2010, 1:07 am
Quoting John Moffatt
Things seem to be dying down here, so Imma go to bed. I'll check what's going on again tomorrow morning. I suppose I can be considered the new North Korea. I'd like to blow everything up, but wouldn't be able to manage it on my lonesome.

I think I'll do the same.

Night, y'all.
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| October 1, 2010, 1:08 am
 Group moderator 
Yep, 'Night.

I think we should start a new ICF in the am.
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| October 1, 2010, 1:10 am
 Group admin 
Huh. Next time we want something from Cliffe, I guess we should all band together.

I was expecting an uber war...
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| October 1, 2010, 1:11 am
I know, at least I get to pummel Egypt.
It seems like we keep on getting closer to that glorious WWIII, maybe next time.
night'
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| October 1, 2010, 1:12 am
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