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International Conversation Forum XXXVII
Any how the last one got to long and boring, so on to the new one.


Conflicts : WW2 all over again on the eastern front with polish and prussian trooper's on stand by. The cause ?, Emp's and ICMB'S launched by the russian's at poland.

And this is the first forum By yours truly .


in other new's Poland's pilots have been on edge lately after the following missile attack's by russia poland have put up ani missile battery's , the pilot's hve been warned to be wary about the ICMB'S and EMP's .

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| October 28, 2010, 5:21 pm
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Quoting Glenn streeter
Any how the last one got to long and boring, so on to the new one.


Conflicts : WW2 all over again on the eastern front with polish and prussian trooper's on stand by. The cause ?, Emp's and ICMB'S launched by the russian's at poland.

And this is the first forum By yours truly .


in other new's Poland's pilots have been on edge lately after the following missile attack's by russia poland have put up ani missile battery's , the pilot's hve been warned to be wary about the ICMB'S and EMP's .


Maybe add some more international events rather than restating what you specifically did/ happened to you :L

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| October 28, 2010, 8:00 pm
Something like:
-Prussia gets reinforced by Poland on the Eastern Front.
-More shenanigans going on in Africa
-Unrest in Poland over recent Attacks
-Cliffe continues to rage.

Go! Get to the arguing again!
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| October 28, 2010, 8:28 pm
Quoting Brikkr ™

-Cliffe continues to rage.


WHERE WHERE! I need lulz noa
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| October 28, 2010, 8:40 pm
Ah, late fall: A time when a small nation's thoughs turn once again to thoughts of pilage and plunder.
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| October 28, 2010, 8:43 pm
Quoting John Moffatt
Ah, late fall: A time when a small nation's thoughs turn once again to thoughts of pilage and plunder. >>>moi?

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| October 28, 2010, 8:46 pm
Quoting Glenn streeter
Quoting John Moffatt
Ah, late fall: A time when a small nation's thoughs turn once again to thoughts of pilage and plunder. >>>moi?

Well, I was talking about my country of maybe 4.5 million after I took Inner Mongolia from China.
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| October 28, 2010, 8:48 pm
Quoting John Moffatt
Well, I was talking about my country of maybe 4.5 million after I took Inner Mongolia from China.
Oh right sorry.

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| October 28, 2010, 8:51 pm
Quoting Brendan Dore
Urghhh... Only mods or admins are supposed to create new forums.
Oh b|/gg3r.

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| October 28, 2010, 8:58 pm
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Quoting Brendan Dore
Urghhh... Only mods or admins are supposed to create new forums.


I know, right? They've been stealing our jobs lately, the noun-for-someone-without-a-father's.
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| October 28, 2010, 9:12 pm
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Quoting Brendan Dore
Urghhh... Only mods or admins are supposed to create new forums.

Oops, then I violated the rules awhile back...

Anyway, the deadline is here. The CR will be up shortly. You have until I finish typing it to get it to me.
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| October 28, 2010, 9:23 pm
Quoting Ultramarine .
Oops, then I violated the rules awhile back...

Anyway, the deadline is here. The CR will be up shortly. You have until I finish typing it to get it to me.

Did it up the top of the forum.
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| October 28, 2010, 9:25 pm
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Quoting Glenn streeter
Did it up the top of the forum.

I'm sorry?
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| October 28, 2010, 9:36 pm
Quoting Glenn streeter
Did it up the top of the forum.

I think you might be confused.

CR stands for combat report. The CR is given out by CM (Combat Mods) which are chosen by admins. In order to get your orders processed you have to send a CM your instructions via Flickr.

*this only applies to member vs. member conflicts.
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| October 28, 2010, 9:45 pm
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Quoting Brendan Dore
Wait, are you talking about me?

No. I was combining two in one.
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| October 28, 2010, 10:09 pm
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Now that I finally got back in...
Well, after things heated up yesterday, they were absent today. Oh, well.

Algeria:
All leaves were canceled for Algerian military personnel and all were transferred to the theater. The PCU again launched the same-style offensives as yesterday in an attempt to breakthrough. With the absence of Algerian fleet orders, they had a little more effect, but were heavily attacked by both Algerians and Nigerians. In the air, elements of Algerian air power, with notable contribution from Russia took on the Pacifican naval aircraft today. After a brief fight this morning, the Algerians fell back into the city of Algiers to fortify that area, followed by the Nigerians. The PCU secured the surrounding areas and pursued the Africans into the city itself, firing on buildings suspected of being occupied by enemy forces. They were flanked briefly by several Algerian ambushes which slowed them considerably. Heavy artillery was brought ashore to counter the fire-support of the Algerians. A number of close support copters made the matters worse, but withdrew shortly due to threatening by AA. Fighting continues.

On the Egyptian front, a long-awaited breakthrough has occurred for the Egyptians. Though their fighters made a brief appearance yesterday in an attempt to gain supremacy, they were unable to exploit the losses they inflicted and the sky remains in collective African hands. Instead of chasing the Algerians into the city, the Egyptians ran full-tilt toward Algiers, nipped at their heels all the way. They had about 50km to go, but they only made about 15 of them, considering that no troop transports were brought ashore. Again, heavy presence of unknown privateers attacked the formation tenaciously.

Benghazi:
All that preparation paid off today when, in retaliation for yesterday's air offensive from Egypt, launched a massive assault on Alexandria. Fighters over flew the area to ensure superiority, AA was up, but Nigerian F-2s took out several sites to pave the way for A-7 bombers to flatten the city. They didn't, but got some good strikes in before high-tailing it back to Benghazi for shelter.

Losses:
1 F-1
2 A-7

Sudan:
The attacks continued, but with similar results as yesterday. The PCU aircraft hit some soft spots on the Nigerian front, knocking them back a little. Otherwise, the lines are stagnant.
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| October 28, 2010, 11:52 pm
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Quoting Ultramarine .
Again, heavy presence of unknown privateers attacked the formation tenaciously.



All pirates that approach within 200 kilometers of Roman airspace will be fired upon without warning. I dislike these so-called "privateers." You know what happens to privateers when they're out of business, right? They turn into pirates.
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| October 28, 2010, 11:54 pm
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Quoting Awesome-o-saurus The Not-So-Great

All pirates that approach within 200 kilometers of Roman airspace will be fired upon without warning. I dislike these so-called "privateers." You know what happens to privateers when they're out of business, right? They turn into pirates.

Privateers, volunteers, what's the difference? Chennault's men were privateers of sorts.

Very well, they will henceforth be referred to as 'Volunteers' from an unknown nation.
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| October 28, 2010, 11:58 pm
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Quoting Ultramarine .
Privateers, volunteers, what's the difference? Chennault's men were privateers of sorts.

Very well, they will henceforth be referred to as 'Volunteers' from an unknown nation.


I see. Volunteers I'm down with, but privateers... The Roman Empire does not have a good history with pirates.

/Evan tells me to stop holding grudges
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| October 29, 2010, 12:07 am
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Quoting Awesome-o-saurus The Not-So-Great

I see. Volunteers I'm down with, but privateers... The Roman Empire does not have a good history with pirates.

/Evan tells me to stop holding grudges

Hahaha! Very well then, volunteers they shall remain!
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| October 29, 2010, 12:09 am
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May I ask who de-moted me from the position of moderator and why?

I did nothing to earn a demotion, and it annoys me to have to wait for someone else to moderate my comments...
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| October 29, 2010, 2:29 am
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Quoting Jack Ford
May I ask who de-moted me from the position of moderator and why?

I did nothing to earn a demotion, and it annoys me to have to wait for someone else to moderate my comments...


I don't know who did it, but I fixed it. You're a moderator again.
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| October 29, 2010, 3:21 am
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Quoting Glenn streeter
Any how the last one got to long and boring, so on to the new one.


Conflicts : WW2 all over again on the eastern front with polish and prussian trooper's on stand by. The cause ?, Emp's and ICMB'S launched by the russian's at poland.

And this is the first forum By yours truly .


in other new's Poland's pilots have been on edge lately after the following missile attack's by russia poland have put up ani missile battery's , the pilot's hve been warned to be wary about the ICMB'S and EMP's .

Yo Glenn, Imma happy for ya, and Imma gonna let you finish, but you gotta know, admins and moderators are the best forum starters of all time!
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| October 29, 2010, 8:09 am
 Group admin 
I need t apologize for not putting out a CR yesterday.

What happened was: All night yesterday night, I tried to log onto MOCpages, but every time I got the message: "page load error", so I never could actually get onto MOCpages last night.
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| October 29, 2010, 8:17 am
CR: Weapon's and industry: Horten 107 :
Upgrade's to the horten 36 flying wing to make it more streamlined and faster. This version feature's Triple front machine gun's , two torpedo rack's and 5 missile rack's , twin high powered jet engine's and a four machine gun for the rear gunner mounted one on top of the other.

Raven class night Fighter RF 104 :Since G.E.O.P's night fighter's are lacking ,building one would be a start . The RF 104 should be a very good contender for working on the eastern campaign .

I will not tell you what it's weapon's are.

Arty's : Flak one hundred Artillery shoot's 100mm shell's .

PAK 90mm .

Combat's Last night our new Anti missile system seemed to fend of the missile's very well , with only one rocket hitting the ground near the river oder causing a small amount of causualty's, all survived.

The prussian's came into breslau early today reporting huge celebration by the prussian honor guard's .

New elite fighting force Panzerkompanie will take until january to train.
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| October 29, 2010, 1:18 pm
Quoting Thomas N
I need t apologize for not putting out a CR yesterday.

What happened was: All night yesterday night, I tried to log onto MOCpages, but every time I got the message: "page load error", so I never could actually get onto MOCpages last night.
This happened to me early this afternoon.

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| October 29, 2010, 1:19 pm
Quoting Ultramarine .
I'm sorry?
Whoop's sorry the real one's at the bottom of the page.

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| October 29, 2010, 1:20 pm
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Quoting Glenn streeter
Whoop's sorry the real one's at the bottom of the page.

I still don't understand.
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| October 29, 2010, 2:00 pm
Quoting Ultramarine .
I still don't understand.
Right i have done my CR.

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| October 29, 2010, 2:16 pm
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Quoting Glenn streeter
Right i have done my CR.

Ok...
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| October 29, 2010, 2:18 pm
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Quoting Awesome-o-saurus The Not-So-Great

I don't know who did it, but I fixed it. You're a moderator again.

Thank ye kindly good sir!


I don't know where my comment went... I had a somewhat lengthy comment about my new multi-role jet fighter that is ALMOST COMPLETE!!! It's a crazily awesome flying wing with massive engines and massive payload.
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| October 29, 2010, 3:11 pm
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The AIO, Alliance of the Indian Ocean, has finalized plans for a brutal training course for elite combat units. It is to take place throughout the AIO, including Saudi Arabia, Australia, Indonesia, and India. Due to the time of year, this experience will provide them with brutal weather experiences. They will be taught all the essentials of modern combat, including but not limited to firearms training, marine operations, rapid insertion training, nightime operations training, hand-to-hand combat training (based of Seibukan Jujutsu, which I take), foreign language courses, communication methods, and many other essential courses. We expect a dropout rate of nearly 50% due to the ruggedness of the course, but it will provide us with dependable and efficient warriors capable of performing their task with deadly accuracy. The course begins on the first of November, and runs through January of next year.
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| October 29, 2010, 3:39 pm
Quoting Jack Ford
Thank ye kindly good sir!


I don't know where my comment went... I had a somewhat lengthy comment about my new multi-role jet fighter that is ALMOST COMPLETE!!! It's a crazily awesome flying wing with massive engines and massive payload.
i have just made a new flying wing.

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| October 29, 2010, 3:58 pm
update : The pilot's in there final stage's of training that survived the first six ICMB'S and four EMP's have graduated from flight school it will take two week's for the next batch to finish there final stage's training.
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| October 29, 2010, 4:12 pm
Quoting Glenn streeter
Mini CR .

You can't give out CRs
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| October 29, 2010, 4:15 pm
Quoting Jake H.
You can't give out CRs
What do you mean by that?.

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| October 29, 2010, 4:18 pm
Oh. My. Word.

Please excuse my recent going AWOL, I had another splendid night out on the city with the ladies. Had very good pasta, then saw my favorite lady perform in a marvelous concert.

In any case, POLAND IS AWESOME. Totally. Officially. In case anyone is wondering, most of what Poland says happens between them and the Reich is in fact true. I'm quite proud of Horten Aviation's new machine, Poland officially has the lisence to produce it as well as...

...as well as every other vehicle in the Reich's arsenal. Yes, Glenn, you heard me right. You can produce my German equipment now. Only the German stuff, mind you.

We now offer Poland the chance to formally join the Imperial Federation of Prusso-Egypt, and maybe even the German Empire itself (within Prusso-Egypt) if he wishes. It's completely up to you, Glenn. I'll just say this- the borders will look kind of ugIy :-/

Also, I cannot express my gratitude towards Tom and Jack for standing up for Egyptian air power. I thought I would come home to read reports of massive losses and failures- instead, I was heavily relieved and delighted at my steady progress. Ultra, it seems you may be a good man after all ;-)

I'll be able to relay orders tonight. Heck, I may even do them extra early :D

Jake, we can be done with this as soon as you're ready to surrender and agree to my terms. As per our chivalry and in return of your benevolence [for the most part... COUGH Alexandria COUGH Aswan Dam COUGH ;-)] we'll try our best not to "harm" you either :-)
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| October 29, 2010, 4:19 pm
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Quoting Glenn streeter
Quoting Jake H.
You can't give out CRs
What do you mean by that?.


Only appointed Combat Mods can do that. The Current Combat Mods are: Tom Neumo for Europe/ Russia and Ultramarine for Africa. The whole point of the concept is that the person is unbiased (IE is not involved in the conflict at all).
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| October 29, 2010, 4:21 pm
Quoting Kaiser Pharaoh Cliffe


We now offer Poland the chance to formally join the Imperial Federation of Prusso-Egypt, and maybe even the German Empire itself (within Prusso-Egypt) if he wishes. It's completely up to you, Glenn. I'll just say this- the borders will look kind of ugIy :-/>>> I will join in any case poland will never be steamrolled whilst you and i are here.

Also what do you think of my newest flying wing's?.

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| October 29, 2010, 4:23 pm
Quoting Ultramarine .
Ok...

He's posting his own CR.

Sometimes it's just his nations updates, but other times (as above) he's actually decided the course of minor conflicts.
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| October 29, 2010, 4:23 pm
Quoting Kaiser Pharaoh Cliffe

Jake, we can be done with this as soon as you're ready to surrender

I'm ready to surrender, but your terms are a little...
mmmmm
post WWI, except you France/England and I'm Germany.

In other words, I can still fight, but you want me to give up and lose everything.
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| October 29, 2010, 4:28 pm
Quoting Kaiser Pharaoh Cliffe
I almost forgot. you have the right to my trooper buggy to help you in africa And Flak 100 gun's with the prusso -egypt Flag on the barrel and a chrome barrel end as well. just think of this as a christmas present.

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| October 29, 2010, 4:29 pm
Quoting Kaiser Pharaoh Cliffe




In any case, POLAND IS AWESOME. Totally. Officially. In case anyone is wondering, most of what Poland says happens between them and the Reich is in fact true. I'm quite proud of Horten Aviation's new machine, Poland officially has the lisence to produce it as well as...

...as well as every other vehicle in the Reich's arsenal. Yes, Glenn, you heard me right. You can produce my German equipment now. Only the German stuff, mind you.

/With huge smile on his face/
Danke =)).

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| October 29, 2010, 4:33 pm
Quoting Glenn streeter
Quoting Jake H.
You can't give out CRs
What do you mean by that?.

CR stands for Combat Report. It is written and posted by the conflict moderator.

What you did was... well, we don't have a name for it yet, but it's when you send your battle plans to the conflict moderator. The conflict moderator then uses those and the enemy's plans to determine what the outcome would be, using his skill, experience, and knowledge.

That's how the whole thing works.
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| October 29, 2010, 4:56 pm
Quoting Kaiser Pharaoh Cliffe
CR stands for Combat Report. It is written and posted by the conflict moderator.

What you did was... well, we don't have a name for it yet, but it's when you send your battle plans to the conflict moderator. The conflict moderator then uses those and the enemy's plans to determine what the outcome would be, using his skill, experience, and knowledge.

That's how the whole thing works.
Battle spamming ? well it wasn't one of those it was an update if you whim.

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| October 29, 2010, 4:59 pm
Quoting Glenn streeter
Quoting Kaiser Pharaoh Cliffe
I almost forgot. you have the right to my trooper buggy to help you in africa And Flak 100 gun's with the prusso -egypt Flag on the barrel and a chrome barrel end as well. just think of this as a christmas present.

Thank you for the heart-felt gift, but, uh... where we come from Christmas is still a little far off :-P For us, it's Halloween time! Of course, it's only two days from now :D So we'll consider it a Halloween present.

I cannot express how happy I am to have you join us, Glenn. This is a glorious day in the history of Prusso-Egypt and the fourth German Empire. Since I'm going to be busy this weekend, except for Monday (finally the school decides it's a good idea to take a day off for Halloween!), on Monday I'll make a MOC of the celebration for Poland's joining the German Empire. Our glorious German emperor Kaiser Wilhelm V has a gift for YOU this time.
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| October 29, 2010, 5:04 pm
Quoting Glenn streeter
Quoting Kaiser Pharaoh Cliffe
CR stands for Combat Report. It is written and posted by the conflict moderator.

What you did was... well, we don't have a name for it yet, but it's when you send your battle plans to the conflict moderator. The conflict moderator then uses those and the enemy's plans to determine what the outcome would be, using his skill, experience, and knowledge.

That's how the whole thing works.
Battle spamming ? well it wasn't one of those it was an update if you whim.
Don't pay any attention to that comment that i posted it's really silly.

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| October 29, 2010, 5:05 pm
Quoting Kaiser Pharaoh Cliffe
Thank you for the heart-felt gift, but, uh... where we come from Christmas is still a little far off :-P For us, it's Halloween time! Of course, it's only two days from now :D So we'll consider it a Halloween present.

I cannot express how happy I am to have you join us, Glenn. This is a glorious day in the history of Prusso-Egypt and the fourth German Empire. Since I'm going to be busy this weekend, except for Monday (finally the school decides it's a good idea to take a day off for Halloween!), on Monday I'll make a MOC of the celebration for Poland's joining the German Empire. Our glorious German emperor Kaiser Wilhelm V has a gift for YOU this time.
It's halloween in my country as well just we don't give gift's at halloween so i forwarded the present's to christmas =D.

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| October 29, 2010, 5:08 pm
Quoting Glenn streeter
Quoting Kaiser Pharaoh Cliffe
CR stands for Combat Report. It is written and posted by the conflict moderator.

What you did was... well, we don't have a name for it yet, but it's when you send your battle plans to the conflict moderator. The conflict moderator then uses those and the enemy's plans to determine what the outcome would be, using his skill, experience, and knowledge.

That's how the whole thing works.
Battle spamming ? well it wasn't one of those it was an update if you whim.

Not... spamming, exactly, I wouldn't use that word. Battle plans must be sent to the conflict moderator using Flickr Mail to keep them secret. You should get a Flickr account- Flickr is a really nice website. All of us use it too.

And yeah, updates are okay as long as you don't fill the conversation forum with them all the time. They tend to get on some people's nerves.
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| October 29, 2010, 5:09 pm
Quoting Kaiser Pharaoh Cliffe
Not... spamming, exactly, I wouldn't use that word. Battle plans must be sent to the conflict moderator using Flickr Mail to keep them secret. You should get a Flickr account- Flickr is a really nice website. All of us use it too.

And yeah, updates are okay as long as you don't fill the conversation forum with them all the time. They tend to get on some people's nerves.
im getting one it's just going to take a while (don't ask why please.) =p

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| October 29, 2010, 5:10 pm
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Quoting Kaiser Pharaoh Cliffe
Also, I cannot express my gratitude towards Tom and Jack for standing up for Egyptian air power. I thought I would come home to read reports of massive losses and failures- instead, I was heavily relieved and delighted at my steady progress. Ultra, it seems you may be a good man after all ;-)

Look, your presumption of bias didn't exactly endear you to me. But I am a fair man. Your air power was not in question, it was the numbers that were. I just take tactics and compare them. It was a tactical success for you, but you couldn't stick around to exploit it. So technically, it was a win for Egypt, though not in numbers.
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| October 29, 2010, 5:12 pm
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Quoting Kaiser Pharaoh Cliffe
(finally the school decides it's a good idea to take a day off for Halloween!)

Heh, I wish they did that here. I hope they're pleased when we all show up Monday morning and pass out first period in sugar comas.
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| October 29, 2010, 5:39 pm
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Oh look, what happy Europeans, see them trade, see them learn? How I hate those goodie-goodies, how they make my stomach churn!

I've got a little secret, that'll really make them cry, a nas-tee kind of engineering, from a special kind of guy!

/crazy dances

>.>

<.<
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| October 29, 2010, 6:50 pm
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Quoting Awesome-o-saurus The Not-So-Great
Oh look, what happy Europeans, see them trade, see them learn? How I hate those goodie-goodies, how they make my stomach churn!

I've got a little secret, that'll really make them cry, a nas-tee kind of engineering, from a special kind of guy!

/crazy dances

>.>

<.<

I'm just waiting for Tom's CR.
It'll shake things up, methinks.

Quoting Glenn streeter
i have just made a new flying wing.

A flying wing with a maximum level speed of Mach 1.6, which is less than a significant number of mid-to-late Cold War designs. The F-15 and the MiG-25 Foxbat, for instance.

Which is probably somewhat realistic, as Poland doesn't have a noticeable aircraft design industry for fighter aircraft.
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| October 29, 2010, 6:53 pm
Tom just sent you a messege hope it came.
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| October 29, 2010, 7:45 pm
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I have been asked by Algeria to host negotiations between Algeria, the PCU, and Egypt. Should I create a separate topic for that?
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| October 29, 2010, 7:59 pm
 Group admin 
Quoting Ultramarine .
I have been asked by Algeria to host negotiations between Algeria, the PCU, and Egypt. Should I create a separate topic for that?

The group mediator shall assist you.
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| October 29, 2010, 8:00 pm
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Quoting Thomas N
The group mediator shall assist you.

You?
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| October 29, 2010, 8:02 pm
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Incidentally, the CR will be kind of late tonight, but I will try to get it up.
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| October 29, 2010, 8:03 pm
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Quoting Glenn streeter
Tom just sent you a messege hope it came.

Yes, I'm also going to give you a heads up, since you only posted your planes in the last couple days, you wouldn't have had long to build any.

At this point, I would say that your factories would take a few weeks to start putting out planes for you, probably longer.

Also, due to the nature of your combat force (mostly upgraded yet still outdated WWII stuff) I wouldn't expect your forces to be very effective against a modern army. (particularly a Flak gun versus a modern tank, it just wouldn't be that good...)
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| October 29, 2010, 8:03 pm
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Quoting Ultramarine .
You?

Yes, I have historically been the one sorting through others' problems.

Just ask Areetsa, he dislikes me for it.
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| October 29, 2010, 8:06 pm
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Quoting Thomas N
Yes, I have historically been the one sorting through others' problems.

Just ask Areetsa, he dislikes me for it.

Not so much dislike as mildly ticked. But when you think about it, the sentiments behind the war(s) you prevented and/or ended still keep smoldering away below the surface, just waiting to boil up and start a big conflict. So technically speaking, I get a fun war no matter what the diplomats do.
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| October 29, 2010, 8:10 pm
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Quoting Ultramarine .
I have been asked by Algeria to host negotiations between Algeria, the PCU, and Egypt. Should I create a separate topic for that?


Negotiations?

/expects to get my buffer state
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| October 29, 2010, 8:15 pm
Quoting Thomas N
Yes, I'm also going to give you a heads up, since you only posted your planes in the last couple days, you wouldn't have had long to build any.

At this point, I would say that your factories would take a few weeks to start putting out planes for you, probably longer.

Also, due to the nature of your combat force (mostly upgraded yet still outdated WWII stuff) I wouldn't expect your forces to be very effective against a modern army. (particularly a Flak gun versus a modern tank, it just wouldn't be that good...)
It's not going to be now . In a week or so yes.

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| October 29, 2010, 8:23 pm
Quoting Phazezorz .
I'm building a gun that drops nukes on everything.

'nuff said.

:P

Unrealistic and imposible . You have playing fallout to much.
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| October 29, 2010, 8:31 pm
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Quoting Glenn streeter
Unrealistic and imposible . You have playing fallout to much.


Thus the :P face.
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| October 29, 2010, 8:34 pm
Quoting Glenn streeter
Unrealistic and imposible . You have playing fallout to much.

He's kidding, yo. >_>
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| October 29, 2010, 8:35 pm
( >.>) (<.<) (<.>) danm I've made a fo0l out of my self.
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| October 29, 2010, 8:41 pm
Quoting Kaiser Pharaoh Cliffe
He's kidding, yo. >_>
Any how cliffe how can I email you I have some plan's to give to you.

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| October 29, 2010, 8:44 pm
Quoting Glenn streeter
Quoting Kaiser Pharaoh Cliffe
He's kidding, yo. >_>
Any how cliffe how can I email you I have some plan's to give to you.

Yes, most certainly.

timcliffe@sbcglobal.net

Have at it, homie.
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| October 29, 2010, 8:45 pm
Quoting Kaiser Pharaoh Cliffe
Yes, most certainly.

timcliffe@sbcglobal.net

Have at it, homie.
Done hope you got it.

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| October 29, 2010, 8:51 pm
Right, wich Combat Mod is going Russia vs Germany 'n' friends?
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| October 29, 2010, 10:24 pm
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Quoting John Moffatt
Right, wich Combat Mod is going Russia vs Germany 'n' friends?

Looks to be Tom.
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| October 29, 2010, 10:26 pm
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Combat report time my friends! (and you too Brendan)

On the eastern front, the I.R.A, anticipating an attack on their homeland by the Germans, has reinforced both the Belarus and Ukraine borders with 10 tank divisions.

36 Indian made F-1's and 24 R/A- 927 stealth bombers were launched from the 2 I.R.A. Carrier groups off the coast of Denmark. These air units hit German infrastructure, radar stations, and Airfields on and near the shoreline, and then headed back out to sea, where they were met by 25 Hyper Fawlcons to escort them into friendly hands again.

Also on the seas, Russian missile boats have taken to hitting U-boats from a distance after they have been sighted by ASW tactics. This has worked quite well against standard U-boats, which by this time are all but gone, however the cylinder ones are harder to crack, and at least half a wolf pack of those remain out there.

Hyper Fawlcons and MIG-31s have been put on constant patrol to keep the skies over Russia clear of German bombers.

In those same skies, two ICBMs were launched. However, they did something strange before either of them were shot down, so strange, in fact that I'm going to quote Cliffe's combat plans for it. Cliffe: "A single ICBM will be launched at both Moscow and St. Petersburg. The ICBMs will have the Prusso-Egyptian flag as well as the Imperial German war flag painted on them. Just before they impact, they will explode in mid-air over the city, releasing hundreds of thousands of tiny, light, black, and very cheap golf-ball sized spheres on little parachutes. These spheres are audio devices, playing looping tracks of the extremely ominous and satirical laughter of the Kaiser and/or I... The laughing begins when the spheres have descended to 1,000 feet. Many special golden spheres contain laugh tracks from German field marshals. A few select groups of spheres contain laugh tracks from Ozzy Osbourne, German pop singer Nena, AC/DC guitarists Angus and Malcolm Young, Eddie Van Halen, former German president Angela Merkel, members of German heavy metal band Rammstein, and, most prominently, Vincent Price. Many others have been thrown in there, but I don't know them. You can add some if you like, as long as they are fitting to German-ness (heavy metal IS in fact very, very German)... It is hoped that the devices will lodge themselves in very inconvenient places to prevent their removal. They may even crash through windows. We sincerely hope we cause absolute chaos... Thankfully, do to their light weight and aluminum construction, these spheres are not at all lethal, even at relatively high speed.
The battery of these devices will last until 6:10 A.M. the next morning... All of this is meant, of course, as a psychological attack. We will never lower ourselves enough to actually launch missiles at people like barbarians throwing sticks and rocks."

So there you have it, Cliffe is strange, and I'll say that since it would be near impossible to shoot golf-ball sized spheres out of the sky, so Moscow and St. Petersburg should be filled with cackling for the night.


On to other matters. Both Alenia and the I.R.A. launched bombing missions, 6 Tu-160 and 10 Tu-22M form Alenia formed up with 12 R/A- 927 from the I.R.A. and enacted high-powered bombing runs against targets in Poland, including but not limited to: Airbases and ground units, as well as Polish power production facilities. This attack, against the Polish air force, which is, inferior, to say the least, was high;y successful, and dealt even more damage to air bases, where Polish planes couldn't get into the air, because the runways were bombed, and then the Polish planes themselves were bombed on the ground, destroying much more of what few Planes Poland had. Polish land units also suffered, but not as much, and with the knocking-out of several power plants, much of Eastern Poland is now without power, and it will take a long time to repair bomb damage.

The Alenian bombers then tried to make a run against Kφnigsberg, but were forced to peel off and fly back to the motherland when German fighters were detected.

A total of 60 PAK FAs have flown into German air space to battle the Luftwaffe, this battle was short and casualties were on the light side, with 3 Russian aircraft lost compared to 4 German aircraft lost.

Finn has also kept launching EMPs and ICBMs at the Germans and Polish, with many dead on the other side, due to missiles hitting airfields, command posts, and other areas of dense German activity.

Something else Finn tried, he attempted to get 3 Russian suicide bombers into German air fields to blow up stealth bombers, but they found those bombers to be probably the most heavily guarded thing in Germany, and all three were captured and disarmed when the were found not to have the proper credentials when stopped by airfield security.

Those same bombers were then sent out in the DEAD of night to bomb Russian supply lines, and a group was even sent to Bomb Moscow. On entering Russian airspace and witnessing the large amounts of patrol fighters put up by the Russians, the bombers sent towards supply lines had to turn back, however, one chance sighting of a heat-signature by a Russian plane led to the downing of one of the bombers.
The group going to Moscow had worse luck, and found the entire city lit up by light sources, to prevent the exact sort of raid. suddenly visible, the German planes lost the element of surprise and high-tailed it back to Germany, but they were compromised, and the Russians shot down 3 of the bombers over the city, while the others escaped.

In an odd twist of fate, the last thing one of the bomb crews heard as he fell to his death was the cackling of his own Kaiser.

In the I.R.A.: The entrance to the St. Petersburg ports has been mined. They have also begun using satellite data to find where the missiles that hit Moscow came from.
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| October 29, 2010, 10:45 pm
Quoting Thomas N
The group mediator shall assist you.

Here's the situation :
Cliffe will let me surrender if I give up all territories (although really what I have going on is more of a coalition)and admit defeat/he was right/etc.

I'm unwilling to hand over all my territories.
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| October 29, 2010, 10:48 pm
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Quoting Jake H.
Here's the situation :
Cliffe will let me surrender if I give up all territories (although really what I have going on is more of a coalition)and admit defeat/he was right/etc.

I'm unwilling to hand over all my territories.

If those are territories that you gained before you went to war with Cliffe, and they weren't ?Cliffe's territories to begin with, then you shouldn't have to give them up.

Now, Cliffe, is this really what you meant, or did Jake misunderstand you? (I'm pretty sure you only meant Tunisia and the parts of Libya that Algeria invaded...)
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| October 29, 2010, 10:51 pm
Quoting Thomas N
Combat report time my friends! (and you too Brendan)

Great CR. I love the odd twists you throw in. I actually find your CRs very entertaining.
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| October 29, 2010, 10:52 pm
Quoting Thomas N
If those are territories that you gained before you went to war with Cliffe, and they weren't ?Cliffe's territories to begin with, then you shouldn't have to give them up.

Now, Cliffe, is this really what you meant, or did Jake misunderstand you? (I'm pretty sure you only meant Tunisia and the parts of Libya that Algeria invaded...)

I've already given my slice of Libya to the Romans.

Here,s what he sent me:
My terms are tough, boi. You just had to go and blow up the Aswan Dam and flood tons of g***d*** farms and homes before we finally stopped it at the southernmost cataract.

You'll have to give up all your conquered land, except Tunisia. I'll let you keep that, I'd LOVE to see Carthage re-animated; we'll be best friends :D

And, most importantly, you'll surrender to me; I win the war, you lose the war.

However, I'm completely ready and willing to continue fighting if you don't feel like these terms are fair enough. It's up to you... thanks for the offer.

Me and Awe have already discussed peace, and I myself came to the conclusion that this is mainly an ego thing for Cliffe.


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| October 29, 2010, 10:58 pm
Quoting Thomas N
If those are territories that you gained before you went to war with Cliffe, and they weren't ?Cliffe's territories to begin with, then you shouldn't have to give them up.

Now, Cliffe, is this really what you meant, or did Jake misunderstand you? (I'm pretty sure you only meant Tunisia and the parts of Libya that Algeria invaded...)

Could you let my comment through please?

It seems to have gotten blocked.
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| October 29, 2010, 10:58 pm
Quoting Thomas N
If those are territories that you gained before you went to war with Cliffe, and they weren't ?Cliffe's territories to begin with, then you shouldn't have to give them up.

Now, Cliffe, is this really what you meant, or did Jake misunderstand you? (I'm pretty sure you only meant Tunisia and the parts of Libya that Algeria invaded...)

I only wanted him to give up Mali and Niger. He can certainly keep Tunisia, he deserves it. He must still always admit defeat.
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| October 29, 2010, 11:08 pm
It's not so much an ego thing then it is the fact that I don't want to have fought this war for absolutely nothing.
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| October 29, 2010, 11:09 pm
Quoting Kaiser Pharaoh Cliffe
It's not so much an ego thing then it is the fact that I don't want to have fought this war for absolutely nothing.

Well you did start it...sort of. I guess you made a preemptive strike. Although before you made it, I had already decided not to invade you, just help my allies :l

I'll make Mali it's own 100% independent state, but I get to keep Niger. Niger is just too entrenched in Algerian society. Mali, never really had strong ties to me, but Nigeria did. It would be like you giving up Sudan.
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| October 29, 2010, 11:17 pm
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Quoting Jake H.
Well you did start it...sort of. I guess you made a preemptive strike. Although before you made it, I had already decided not to invade you, just help my allies :l

I'll make Mali it's own 100% independent state, but I get to keep Niger. Niger is just too entrenched in Algerian society. Mali, never really had strong ties to me, but Nigeria did. It would be like you giving up Sudan.

How about you select one more country to give up, if you want to keep Niger.

Cliffe, Mali is by far the biggest thing he has conquered, you could let him get rid of it (possibly along with something else smaller), and keep Niger.

Algeria, it seems to me, was acting on noble causes, to me, there are few things more noble than helping out a friend in need, and that's what he did.
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| October 29, 2010, 11:20 pm
Quoting Kaiser Pharaoh Cliffe
He must still always admit defeat.

I'll admit defeat...
it'll kill me but I will do it.

/I here by admit defeat...
commits seppuku with LEGO piece

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zaLoBdqcvVY&feature=related

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| October 29, 2010, 11:20 pm
Quoting Jake H.
I'll admit defeat...
it'll kill me but I will do it.

/I here by admit defeat...
commits seppuku with LEGO piece

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zaLoBdqcvVY&feature=related

You shall be avenged. MUAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!1!!111!!!!!11111!!!!111!!!
eleven!!!!!
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| October 29, 2010, 11:22 pm
Quoting Thomas N
How about you select one more country to give up, if you want to keep Niger.

Well...that's it really.
Tunisia I'm keeping.
Carthage must live!

And B. Fasco is Nigeria's.
How about I cease negotiations with the rest of that small state to my east?
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| October 29, 2010, 11:22 pm
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Quoting Jake H.
Great CR. I love the odd twists you throw in. I actually find your CRs very entertaining.

I especially liked the German bomber pilot hearing the cackling of his own leader right before he died, that was just a little poetic genius from yours truly.
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| October 29, 2010, 11:23 pm
Quoting John Moffatt
You shall be avenged. MUAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!1!!111!!!!!11111!!!!111!!!
eleven!!!!!

ZOMG
Ruska's making me want to have revenge right now.
I hate that song >:L
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| October 29, 2010, 11:24 pm
Quoting Thomas N
I especially liked the German bomber pilot hearing the cackling of his own leader right before he died, that was just a little poetic genius from yours truly.

It definitely appeased my sense of irony.
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| October 29, 2010, 11:24 pm
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Quoting Jake H.
Well...that's it really.
Tunisia I'm keeping.
Carthage must live!

And B. Fasco is Nigeria's.
How about I cease negotiations with the rest of that small state to my east?

That part of Mauritania? That could work, especially since, in losing Mali, you lose most of your border with it.

That is over 50% of your land gone, should be enough to appease Cliffe.
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| October 29, 2010, 11:25 pm
Quoting Thomas N
That part of Mauritania? That could work, especially since, in losing Mali, you lose most of your border with it.

That is over 50% of your land gone, should be enough to appease Cliffe.

It also makes me it a lot harder to defend my land. Having a nice round land mass is strategically safer than having just a thin line.
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| October 29, 2010, 11:29 pm
Quoting Jake H.
Well you did start it...sort of. I guess you made a preemptive strike. Although before you made it, I had already decided not to invade you, just help my allies :l

I'll make Mali it's own 100% independent state, but I get to keep Niger. Niger is just too entrenched in Algerian society. Mali, never really had strong ties to me, but Nigeria did. It would be like you giving up Sudan.

Hmm... fair enough. That's my type of argument. The borders will look ugIy but oh well.

You must still admit your defeat at the hands of my forces and allow the Egyptians to party in your capital city with y'allz. Don't worry, they don't do anything naughty. At all. They just wanna dance. And a few of them like to drink. Only a few. The others refer to caffeine rather than alcohol (a new Egyptian tradition of sorts).
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| October 29, 2010, 11:30 pm
*evil and treacherous thoughts*
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| October 29, 2010, 11:31 pm
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I lol'd. But Cliffe's tactic seems fun, I'll have to use it in a war sometime.

Libya: Tripoli secure, other outlaying areas are being secured as well. The only other foreign presence I detect is Nigeria in Benghazi.

Israel: Same as usual.
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| October 29, 2010, 11:34 pm
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Quoting Jake H.
It also makes me it a lot harder to defend my land. Having a nice round land mass is strategically safer than having just a thin line.

At least your not a morphism of islands and pieces of land stretched across three continents.

At least I have one of the three best Navies in the world...
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| October 29, 2010, 11:35 pm
Quoting Kaiser Pharaoh Cliffe


You must still admit your defeat at the hands of my forces and allow the Egyptians to party in your capital city with y'allz. Don't worry, they don't do anything naughty. At all. They just wanna dance. And a few of them like to drink. Only a few. The others refer to caffeine rather than alcohol (a new Egyptian tradition of sorts).

Don't worry, all PCU/PE troops will be invited to Carthage where the Islamic New Year will be celebrated on Nov. 4th. There will be Roman style punishments, (The PCU will finally get their revenge for those coffee spills) beer, cake, etc.
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| October 29, 2010, 11:35 pm
Quoting Awesome-o-saurus The Not-So-Great
I lol'd. But Cliffe's tactic seems fun, I'll have to use it in a war sometime.


Tactics? Where?

I blame the end of the nine weeks projects >_>

That and evil dictator Nick.
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| October 29, 2010, 11:36 pm
Quoting Thomas N
At least your not a morphism of islands and pieces of land stretched across three continents.

At least I have one of the three best Navies in the world...

In the next group, I'm either going to be a PCU/Roman based Mafia style military organization or thousands of Island nations.
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| October 29, 2010, 11:37 pm
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Quoting Jake H.
Tactics? Where?

I blame the end of the nine weeks projects >_>

The dropping of thousands of voice recordings of himself and a bunch of other people cackling maniacally on Russian cities.
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| October 29, 2010, 11:37 pm
Quoting Thomas N
The dropping of thousands of voice recordings of himself and a bunch of other people cackling maniacally on Russian cities.

Oh yeah that.

Incidentally I'll be borrowing that too.
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| October 29, 2010, 11:38 pm
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Quoting Jake H.
In the next group, I'm either going to be a PCU/Roman based Mafia style military organization or thousands of Island nations.

In the next group, I'm going to be something in Europe.

Hopefully Sweden, as it is one of my three top favorite countries.
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| October 29, 2010, 11:38 pm
Quoting Thomas N

Hopefully Sweden, as it is one of my three top favorite countries.

Sweden and Normany are pretty legit. Those would probably be my third choice.

Japan would also be fun, and would serve as a nice base for my island nations. Here's my proposed national anthem.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h4dgMwUJzOQ&feature=related
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| October 29, 2010, 11:42 pm
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Quoting Thomas N
In the next group, I'm going to be something in Europe.

Hopefully Sweden, as it is one of my three top favorite countries.

The next group will be Awe's medieval one.

Wars everywhere.

"Good afternoon neighbor, I've decided your stewardship of my land is ended, thank you for keeping the throne warm, off you go..."
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| October 29, 2010, 11:42 pm
Quoting Areetsa C
The next group will be Awe's medieval one.


Then Imma be England and invent the 'third', by having a bunch of BAMF long bowmen.
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| October 29, 2010, 11:46 pm
Quoting Thomas N
The dropping of thousands of voice recordings of himself and a bunch of other people cackling maniacally on Russian cities.

Dawn is sorta like the gueni pig in a way...
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| October 29, 2010, 11:49 pm
Quoting Finn C-Q

Do you know where I could get Lineage II it looks like oblivion but moar anime :3
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BM8nVwTdfL4&feature=related
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| October 29, 2010, 11:51 pm
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Quoting Areetsa C
The next group will be Awe's medieval one.

Wars everywhere.

"Good afternoon neighbor, I've decided your stewardship of my land is ended, thank you for keeping the throne warm, off you go..."

I think we're going to have a split, Awe's medieval group in one way, but I know Evan and Erik are working on a new, more realistic modern warfare group that I am really excited about.
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| October 29, 2010, 11:52 pm
Quoting Thomas N
I think we're going to have a split, Awe's medieval group in one way, but I know Evan and Erik are working on a new, more realistic modern warfare group that I am really excited about.

-_-

that just ruined my day
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| October 29, 2010, 11:53 pm
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I guess we're going to have a three way split, cause I was thinking of making a Steampunk one.
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| October 29, 2010, 11:54 pm
Quoting Ham N' Biscuits
Steampunk one.

Steampunk-*sounds* legit
Modern-yawn
/turns on history channel
Medieval-England < everyone else
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| October 29, 2010, 11:56 pm
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Quoting Jake H.
In the next group, I'm either going to be a PCU/Roman based Mafia style military organization or thousands of Island nations.


So basically, the PCU in islands? Because the PCU was founded on the the basis of organized crime gone nation.
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| October 29, 2010, 11:57 pm
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Quoting Thomas N
I think we're going to have a split, Awe's medieval group in one way, but I know Evan and Erik are working on a new, more realistic modern warfare group that I am really excited about.


The medieval one was a joke, but I think it'd be pretty interesting.

@Ham: Steampunk sounds fun too.
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| October 29, 2010, 11:58 pm
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Quoting Thomas N
I think we're going to have a split, Awe's medieval group in one way, but I know Evan and Erik are working on a new, more realistic modern warfare group that I am really excited about.

Tuesday.
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| October 30, 2010, 12:00 am
Quoting Awesome-o-saurus The Not-So-Great

So basically, the PCU in islands? Because the PCU was founded on the the basis of organized crime gone nation.

Nick needs moar organized crime then.
I was thinking more of a mafia nation under PCU control.

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| October 30, 2010, 12:00 am
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Quoting Awesome-o-saurus The Not-So-Great

The medieval one was a joke, but I think it'd be pretty interesting.

@Ham: Steampunk sounds fun too.


Yup. No technology stuff to worry about. Just giant tanks, giant zeppelins and giant ships.
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| October 30, 2010, 12:01 am
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Quoting Jake H.
Nick needs moar organized crime then.
I was thinking more of a mafia nation under PCU control.


Nick doesn't mention the organized crime because it's not crime anymore.

>.>

It's best to ask him about it, he's got the info. However, I'll have you know the PCU was founded in a tunnel below Portland (those tunnels actually exist, by the way).

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| October 30, 2010, 12:01 am
Quoting Awesome-o-saurus The Not-So-Great

Nick doesn't mention the organized crime because it's not crime anymore.

>.>

It's best to ask him about it, he's got the info. However, I'll have you know the PCU was founded in a tunnel below Portland (those tunnels actually exist, by the way).

Still I miss the good ole' days with the killing of camera crews and etc..
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| October 30, 2010, 12:04 am
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Quoting Jake H.
Still I miss the good ole' days with the killing of camera crews and etc..


Indeed. But Nick is a little more even-headed now, and he's destroyed all his natural enemies in America.

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| October 30, 2010, 12:05 am
Quoting Awesome-o-saurus The Not-So-Great

Indeed. But Nick is a little more even-headed now, and he's destroyed all his natural enemies in America.

He really has no enemies now I guess.
huh?

/looks at Mexico
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| October 30, 2010, 12:08 am
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Quoting Dr. Spontaneous
Tuesday.

Really? I thought we were waiting for this group to die before we started up another one.

No matter, can we use the creations from this group, or are wholly new ones necessary?
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| October 30, 2010, 12:08 am
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Quoting Jake H.
He really has no enemies now I guess.


I'm in his situation. My enemies are all non-players now...

Next game, I'm gonna be located somewhere with more conflict (I'm going with China right now). But we still have a lot to do in this game... Should last at least another year.
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| October 30, 2010, 12:09 am
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Quoting Thomas N
Really? I thought we were waiting for this group to die before we started up another one.

No matter, can we use the creations from this group, or are wholly new ones necessary?

This group seems to be steady, but rather stagnant in development all the same. The world is cramped and everyone is pretty much settled. The new group will just help revive things a bit and coincide with similar thought paths that may be applied to either this group or the new one. Anyhow, you can still pretty much port your creations granted new ones would take far too much time.
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| October 30, 2010, 12:12 am
Quoting Awesome-o-saurus The Not-So-Great

I'm in his situation. My enemies are all non-players now...

Next game, I'm gonna be located somewhere with more conflict

I'm hoping to be spread out enough to make me coming into conflict with someone inevitable.
China sounds like a good choice for you. I've never really been a big fan of their culture though. If I was going to be in Asia I'd pick South Korea, or North Korea.
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| October 30, 2010, 12:12 am
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Quoting Dr. Spontaneous
This group seems to be steady, but rather stagnant in development all the same. The world is cramped and everyone is pretty much settled. The new group will just help revive things a bit and coincide with similar thought paths that may be applied to either this group or the new one. Anyhow, you can still pretty much port your creations granted new ones would take far too much time.


Hey, I can stir up some trouble if you want action here.

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| October 30, 2010, 12:13 am
Quoting Dr. Spontaneous
This group seems to be steady, but rather stagnant in development all the same. The world is cramped and everyone is pretty much settled. The new group will just help revive things a bit and coincide with similar thought paths that may be applied to either this group or the new one. Anyhow, you can still pretty much port your creations granted new ones would take far too much time.

You could use it as a 'testing' group, to try out new ideas.
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| October 30, 2010, 12:13 am
I feel so peaceful.
It's past 12:00, North Africa is at peace, and I'm listening to this.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V4nx--JKLZ4&feature=related
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| October 30, 2010, 12:16 am
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Quoting Jake H.
You could use it as a 'testing' group, to try out new ideas.

Each group is a step in evolution; so each have been "testing" groups thus far. The original brought us into the "theme", this one has promised more confined boundaries and conflicting neighbors, and the new one looks to be more national internal debates and conflicts. We'll see how it rolls.
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| October 30, 2010, 12:16 am
Quoting Evan Melick
MOC's will be portable, as always. We're not too picky. Nations however will be not, and just to keep things interesting, it would be preferable if people chose to play as a different nation then they usually do. Also, there will be a limit to the size of territories you can claim at the start, mostly dependent on population, just to try and keep it balanced.

I'm in.
I want to try out my PCU island maffia idea.
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| October 30, 2010, 12:18 am
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Quoting Evan Melick
Yeah, new group shindig will be starting around Tuesday, as most everyone will have it off for election day.

Also. Ahem.

WHEN Y'ALL GET DONE FIGHTING. I WANT ALL FINAL BORDER CHANGES TO BE POSTED HERE. THIS INCLUDES THE SURRENDER OF ALGERIA, THE POLISH FIGHT, ETC. I WANT IT PEOPLE. OR I WILL RAGE.

Thanks.


But... But... We're not even done here! This group is far from dead like RA-CAS-UEN!

For the record, I do not get Tuesday off.

And border changes... Well, I guess you can go ahead and give me Israel if you want. And Libya should look like this, if the buffer state deal goes through: http://www.flickr.com/photos/thenotsogreat/5106764730/

I don't know what Nigeria will have to say though.
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| October 30, 2010, 12:19 am
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Quoting Kaiser Pharaoh Cliffe
It's not so much an ego thing then it is the fact that I don't want to have fought this war for absolutely nothing.

From where I stand, and since the faith of Algeria rests with me, I can say that this is all about ego. You're saying "Bow and grovel, and then we'll call it good." I personally see this as unreasonable, not to mention completely immaterial.
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| October 30, 2010, 12:19 am
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Quoting Jake H.
I feel so peaceful.
It's past 12:00, North Africa is at peace, and I'm listening to this.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V4nx--JKLZ4&feature=related


Peaceful yet epic music, you want it?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LrASSf9_umY&feature=related
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| October 30, 2010, 12:20 am
Quoting Awesome-o-saurus The Not-So-Great


I don't know what Nigeria will have to say though.

Nigeria's chill. It has B. Faso.
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| October 30, 2010, 12:20 am
Quoting Awesome-o-saurus The Not-So-Great



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LrASSf9_umY&feature=related

It's so...quite

NEEDZ NOAR METAL
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| October 30, 2010, 12:21 am
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Quoting Jake H.
It's so...quite

NEEDZ NOAR METAL


I despise metal, unless it's about Vikings, or Tolkien-lore.
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| October 30, 2010, 12:23 am
Quoting Awesome-o-saurus The Not-So-Great

Vikings, or Tolkien-lore.

I don't suppose Finnish metal would fall under there?

Anyways I do too (usually there's always an exception), except when it's played on a cello.
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| October 30, 2010, 12:24 am
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And if I have a voice in this, I say a highly emphatic 'NOOOO' to a new group. I like it here! If it's boring, too bad. I've spent way too much time with everything just for someone to say "Oh, I'm in an interesting mood, lets start a new group!" Bad idea, despise it, expectorate on it.

There, that's how I rage/quit.

Now, I'm off to the African CR.
Unless something's been worked out...
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| October 30, 2010, 12:24 am
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Quoting Jake H.
I don't suppose Finnish metal would fall under there?

Anyways I do too (usually there's always an exception), except when it's played on a cello.


Finnish metal falls under there.

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| October 30, 2010, 12:26 am
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Quoting Evan Melick
This group will still stay alive I hope. The new group will mandate a little bit more knowledge on actually running a country, and adding just a tad more realism. Really, you're just going to have to take five to ten minutes to go on wiki to find out what you can fairly realistically do with what you own.


I see...
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| October 30, 2010, 12:27 am
Quoting Ultramarine .

Now, I'm off to the African CR.
Unless something's been worked out...

:O

I'm in so much trouble. It's already 12:27.
I'll just say I was working on my Halloween song, which I *was*
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| October 30, 2010, 12:28 am
Quoting Evan Melick
. Really, you're just going to have to take five to ten minutes to go on wiki to find out what you can fairly realistically do with what you own.

Ok. Just give me the final word on border changes kids.

I've spent 2 hours on wiki...
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| October 30, 2010, 12:28 am
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Quoting Evan Melick
MOC's will be portable, as always. We're not too picky. Nations however will be not, and just to keep things interesting, it would be preferable if people chose to play as a different nation then they usually do. Also, there will be a limit to the size of territories you can claim at the start, mostly dependent on population, just to try and keep it balanced.

I want Sweden at least, Norway depending on population.
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| October 30, 2010, 12:30 am
Quoting Awesome-o-saurus The Not-So-Great

Finnish metal falls under there.

Good, because if not I'd ragequit.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MhKe-Z-NhBs&feature=related
and I thought the piano version was good.
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| October 30, 2010, 12:30 am
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If we're doing the whole claiming act, I'll go with China.

However, my ultimate loyalties are to my empire here.
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| October 30, 2010, 12:31 am
I'll go with South Korea.
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| October 30, 2010, 12:32 am
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Quoting Ultramarine .
And if I have a voice in this, I say a highly emphatic 'NOOOO' to a new group. I like it here! If it's boring, too bad. I've spent way too much time with everything just for someone to say "Oh, I'm in an interesting mood, lets start a new group!" Bad idea, despise it, expectorate on it.

There, that's how I rage/quit.

Now, I'm off to the African CR.
Unless something's been worked out...

You don't have to join a new group if you don't want to.

I'll be keeping myself up in both, I would never let my dear Oceania die.

Otherwise, I believe something has been worked out between Algeria and Egypt, the fighting has stopped anyway...
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| October 30, 2010, 12:34 am
Quoting Thomas N


Otherwise, I believe something has been worked out between Algeria and Egypt, the fighting has stopped anyway...

temporarily, I await a PE response.
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| October 30, 2010, 12:35 am
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Quoting Jake H.
temporarily, I await a PE response.


Nick's been gone all day, I can't imagine where he is...
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| October 30, 2010, 12:36 am
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Quoting Jake H.


Quoting Kaiser Pharaoh Cliffe
Hmm... fair enough. That's my type of argument. The borders will look ugIy but oh well.

You must still admit your defeat at the hands of my forces and allow the Egyptians to party in your capital city with y'allz. Don't worry, they don't do anything naughty. At all. They just wanna dance. And a few of them like to drink. Only a few. The others refer to caffeine rather than alcohol (a new Egyptian tradition of sorts).


That was enough of a response, you both got as far as a cease-fire anyway.
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| October 30, 2010, 12:37 am
Quoting Awesome-o-saurus The Not-So-Great

Nick's been gone all day, I can't imagine where he is...

Probably in some underground tunnel.
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| October 30, 2010, 12:37 am
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Very well, since peace has been declared for a couple hours at least, there will be no CR.

Though I must say I would have liked to match Tom's colorful rendition with mentions of "War bonnet-wearing Egyptians dancing to techno on their march to Algiers." But 'tis not to be.
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| October 30, 2010, 12:38 am
This is the Algerian march.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MhKe-Z-NhBs&feature=related
just so ya know.
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| October 30, 2010, 12:40 am
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However, a quick blurb about the USCA. Nothing from Nigeria today, nor the PCU.

The USCA has well, here:
-II Corps will continue manning defensive positions in Algeria.
-I Corps will begin integrating Libya into the USCA, while an additional 15,000 National Guardsmen will deploy into Libya to reinforce I Corps.
-5,000 USCA Labour Corps personnel will begin repairing damage done to Libya during the invasion, and begin integrating infrastructure.

Pretty well getting on there, others seem to be moving into the areas where the main combatants are fighting over.
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| October 30, 2010, 12:45 am
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Quoting Evan Melick
No claiming now. Don't worry about it, keep this group for this group. Just know it starts Tuesday sometime, and they'll be a claim thread there.

I can tell you that out of the four of us who are taking a role in forming the new group (Erik, Matt, Jake C and I), Russia, Italy, some of Scandinavia, and the southern Balkans have been claimed, so I apologize to anyone there.

Can you honestly say that this group will remain active while there's another one out there? C'mon, let's keep this one alone, shall we? It may have been tainted by certain folks, but that can be fixed.
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| October 30, 2010, 12:47 am
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Quoting Ultramarine .
Can you honestly say that this group will remain active while there's another one out there? C'mon, let's keep this one alone, shall we? It may have been tainted by certain folks, but that can be fixed.

It'll be fine. After the old group died and this one came about, this group revised interest in the old group. However, the administration unit wasn't on top of time and eye-keeping so we just closed it down. It's a peer-feed system regardless.
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| October 30, 2010, 12:51 am
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Quoting Ultramarine .
However, a quick blurb about the USCA. Nothing from Nigeria today, nor the PCU.

The USCA has well, here:
-II Corps will continue manning defensive positions in Algeria.
-I Corps will begin integrating Libya into the USCA, while an additional 15,000 National Guardsmen will deploy into Libya to reinforce I Corps.
-5,000 USCA Labour Corps personnel will begin repairing damage done to Libya during the invasion, and begin integrating infrastructure.

Pretty well getting on there, others seem to be moving into the areas where the main combatants are fighting over.


I believe this conflicts with previously arranged deals. Unless this refers to the southern areas...

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| October 30, 2010, 12:54 am
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Quoting Awesome-o-saurus The Not-So-Great
Quoting Ultramarine .
However, a quick blurb about the USCA. Nothing from Nigeria today, nor the PCU.

The USCA has well, here:
-II Corps will continue manning defensive positions in Algeria.
-I Corps will begin integrating Libya into the USCA, while an additional 15,000 National Guardsmen will deploy into Libya to reinforce I Corps.
-5,000 USCA Labour Corps personnel will begin repairing damage done to Libya during the invasion, and begin integrating infrastructure.

Pretty well getting on there, others seem to be moving into the areas where the main combatants are fighting over.


I believe this conflicts with previously arranged deals. Unless this refers to the southern areas...

I just write what I get, and that's a quote of what he sent.
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| October 30, 2010, 1:05 am
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Quoting Dr. Spontaneous
It'll be fine. After the old group died and this one came about, this group revised interest in the old group. However, the administration unit wasn't on top of time and eye-keeping so we just closed it down. It's a peer-feed system regardless.

There is one way to guarantee that...

No second group.
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| October 30, 2010, 1:09 am
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Quoting Ultramarine .
There is one way to guarantee that...

No second group.

It's happening. Don't join if you don't want to. People participate in multiple groups all the time; this shouldn't be any different.
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| October 30, 2010, 1:10 am
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Quoting Dr. Spontaneous
It's happening. Don't join if you don't want to. People participate in multiple groups all the time; this shouldn't be any different.

But I thought this one took the place of the last one, and the next would do the same. At least that was the way it was explained before. So for some reason that's not the case with this one? So we're not replacing this one while it's still active?
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| October 30, 2010, 1:14 am
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Quoting Ultramarine .
But I thought this one took the place of the last one, and the next would do the same. At least that was the way it was explained before. So for some reason that's not the case with this one? So we're not replacing this one while it's still active?

It's not a replacement, no. This one will remain active as long as the member remain active. The new group is just there to draw a bit of new interest in a political standing; to experiment with policy in a means that won't compromise your standing in this group. It's a growing lesson rather than a replacement.
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| October 30, 2010, 1:17 am
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Quoting Ultramarine .
But I thought this one took the place of the last one, and the next would do the same. At least that was the way it was explained before. So for some reason that's not the case with this one? So we're not replacing this one while it's still active?


It will honestly make this group better, as you have your own well developed nation to send into combat now, and the new group gives some breathing room. Also, its to prevent people from starting off with massive chunks of land, and thus provides for some more interesting NPC conquest instead of snatching all the smallish countries while the bigger ones are taken.
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| October 30, 2010, 1:17 am
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Quoting Matt Hacker

It will honestly make this group better, as you have your own well developed nation to send into combat now, and the new group gives some breathing room. Also, its to prevent people from starting off with massive chunks of land, and thus provides for some more interesting NPC conquest instead of snatching all the smallish countries while the bigger ones are taken.


That's why I started off with Greece, Turkey, and Cyprus, and conquered the rest of my empire.
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| October 30, 2010, 1:19 am
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Quoting Awesome-o-saurus The Not-So-Great

That's why I started off with Greece, Turkey, and Cyprus, and conquered the rest of my empire.

Well, India only annexed three countries, the rest we've fought for with blood, sweat, and lots of tears.

Who am I to stand in the way of progress? But I will remain highly active here.

Though we were promised by an admin that there wouldn't be another group. *points at Nick*
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| October 30, 2010, 1:22 am
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Quoting Ultramarine .
Well, India only annexed three countries, the rest we've fought for with blood, sweat, and lots of tears.

Who am I to stand in the way of progress? But I will remain highly active here.

Though we were promised by an admin that there wouldn't be another group. *points at Nick*


This was not our decisions. Erik and Evan have acted on their own, so... Yea...

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| October 30, 2010, 1:25 am
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Quoting Awesome-o-saurus The Not-So-Great
Quoting Ultramarine .
Well, India only annexed three countries, the rest we've fought for with blood, sweat, and lots of tears.

Who am I to stand in the way of progress? But I will remain highly active here.

Though we were promised by an admin that there wouldn't be another group. *points at Nick*


This was not our decisions. Erik and Evan have acted on their own, so... Yea...


They were, in fact, planning it before Nick even said that there would not be a new group, so... yeah. Its been a long time coming.

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| October 30, 2010, 1:28 am
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Quoting Matt Hacker

They were, in fact, planning it before Nick even said that there would not be a new group, so... yeah. Its been a long time coming.


So it would seem. I'm gonna start placing bets on how long it takes them to kill off Cliffe if he decides to join.
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| October 30, 2010, 1:30 am
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Quoting Awesome-o-saurus The Not-So-Great

So it would seem. I'm gonna start placing bets on how long it takes them to kill off Cliffe if he decides to join.


The plan was to make sure that he couldnt start out with all of his empire, he would have to expand from only one or two. Ill be taking bets on whether he will take Germany, Egypt, or Prussia.
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| October 30, 2010, 1:31 am
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Quoting Matt Hacker

The plan was to make sure that he couldnt start out with all of his empire, he would have to expand from only one or two. Ill be taking bets on whether he will take Germany, Egypt, or Prussia.


If he takes Germany or Prussia, he'll be eaten so fast it won't even be funny. I know for a fact he'll be given no mercy, just like in the old group. But then again, Germany has the industry for war...
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| October 30, 2010, 1:39 am
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Quoting Evan Melick
This group will still stay alive I hope. The new group will mandate a little bit more knowledge on actually running a country, and adding just a tad more realism. Really, you're just going to have to take five to ten minutes to go on wiki to find out what you can fairly realistically do with what you own.

What, like my no-longer-little state?


You know, what I'd really like would be a sort of alternate history thing, set around 1937; early WWII tech, but no really naughty things being done by das Nahtzees yet, so there's no extreme bad feeling for the Germans, and for some strange reason all the countries suddenly Balkanize.

Dieselpunk elements, too. Spider tanks? Check. Zeppelin aircraft carriers? Check. Air pirates? Check. Technology running on Rule Of Cool, but breaking down if you forget to tell the CM about your supply chain? Oh, heck yes. Wunderwaffen are awesome, but there's no way they could handle spare parts shortages. Yeah, one spider tank could wipe out a whole panzer company, and a close assault from a Schwerkleinpanzer would be very messy for the tank and any nearby infantry, but if you thought the TIGER had maintenance issues...

Of course, it'd be no fun if just one side (I'd probably take one of the German territories BTW) had all the toys, so maybe the air pirates could come into play? Say, Captain Evulz and his Devil Squadron could break into a warehouse, or the Imperial Confederation of Hamburg could attempt to squish him by boarding his zeppelin aircraft carrier with battlesuits and fail; all of a sudden, Johnny Mocpages' choice to lead a pirate squadron instead of a small splinter state near Krakow doesn't look so foolish. Guess who's about to make a massive profit selling the latest and greatest Imperial Hamburgian wargear to anyone with the money?

Development would be behind in some areas, of course. Simultaneously less/more advanced aircraft for instance, because those Crimson Skies style planes look awesome and so do biplanes, more spread out armies, because otherwise He Who Owns The Army Bases Rules The World, that sort of thing.

Still; people wanting to have a state and conquer Poland/Africa/the nearest other state for Fun & Profit would be able to, people wanting to be peacemaking states could (as long as they had a big army to scare off the former), people wanting to do things For The Evuls like strafe hospitals, take slaves, raid banks and generally do piratey things could, and equally, folks like Cliffe with old-fashioned ideals of chivalry could act as knights of the skies; a bit like WWI aces, but less selective about who they help.

I'd imagine the pirates and knights would do a lot of inter-raiding, but a paladin squadron would have a much easier time of crossing over borders. Except for the rogue states. No big factions = far less restrictions on behaviour, and there's no big factions because surprise surprise, the more land you have, the harder it is to keep pirates out.

It's all just a though though. I'd love it, personally, but I dunno if enough people would be interested to keep it going. You'd need a lot of players being pirates to keep things interesting, for instance, and the CMs would be really overworked. Maybe multiple topics for each significant region, like America/Europe/Africa/Australasia, or something like that.

Come to think of it, the balkanizing wouldn't actually be needed. Just the realism nuts letting the coolness factor of it all override their natural desire to nitpick, or come up with a more realistic way for zeppelins to suddenly become the civil and military transport of choice.
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| October 30, 2010, 7:38 am
Quoting Ultramarine.

Nothing from Nigeria today...
I spent my night eating candy and trick or treating at Trunk or Treat at my church. I got as much candy in 40 minutes as I get in 2 hours normally. :D
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| October 30, 2010, 8:24 am
I cant wait to see Finn ,areetsa and john bankrupt themselves because of those icmb's they keep launching.
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| October 30, 2010, 9:30 am
Quoting Areetsa C
Quoting Evan Melick
This group will still stay alive I hope. The new group will mandate a little bit more knowledge on actually running a country, and adding just a tad more realism. Really, you're just going to have to take five to ten minutes to go on wiki to find out what you can fairly realistically do with what you own.

What, like my no-longer-little state?


You know, what I'd really like would be a sort of alternate history thing, set around 1937; early WWII tech, but no really naughty things being done by das Nahtzees yet, so there's no extreme bad feeling for the Germans, and for some strange reason all the countries suddenly Balkanize.

Dieselpunk elements, too. Spider tanks? Check. Zeppelin aircraft carriers? Check. Air pirates? Check. Technology running on Rule Of Cool, but breaking down if you forget to tell the CM about your supply chain? Oh, heck yes. Wunderwaffen are awesome, but there's no way they could handle spare parts shortages. Yeah, one spider tank could wipe out a whole panzer company, and a close assault from a Schwerkleinpanzer would be very messy for the tank and any nearby infantry, but if you thought the TIGER had maintenance issues...

Of course, it'd be no fun if just one side (I'd probably take one of the German territories BTW) had all the toys, so maybe the air pirates could come into play? Say, Captain Evulz and his Devil Squadron could break into a warehouse, or the Imperial Confederation of Hamburg could attempt to squish him by boarding his zeppelin aircraft carrier with battlesuits and fail; all of a sudden, Johnny Mocpages' choice to lead a pirate squadron instead of a small splinter state near Krakow doesn't look so foolish. Guess who's about to make a massive profit selling the latest and greatest Imperial Hamburgian wargear to anyone with the money?

Development would be behind in some areas, of course. Simultaneously less/more advanced aircraft for instance, because those Crimson Skies style planes look awesome and so do biplanes, more spread out armies, because otherwise He Who Owns The Army Bases Rules The World, that sort of thing.

Still; people wanting to have a state and conquer Poland/Africa/the nearest other state for Fun & Profit would be able to, people wanting to be peacemaking states could (as long as they had a big army to scare off the former), people wanting to do things For The Evuls like strafe hospitals, take slaves, raid banks and generally do piratey things could, and equally, folks like Cliffe with old-fashioned ideals of chivalry could act as knights of the skies; a bit like WWI aces, but less selective about who they help.

I'd imagine the pirates and knights would do a lot of inter-raiding, but a paladin squadron would have a much easier time of crossing over borders. Except for the rogue states. No big factions = far less restrictions on behaviour, and there's no big factions because surprise surprise, the more land you have, the harder it is to keep pirates out.

It's all just a though though. I'd love it, personally, but I dunno if enough people would be interested to keep it going. You'd need a lot of players being pirates to keep things interesting, for instance, and the CMs would be really overworked. Maybe multiple topics for each significant region, like America/Europe/Africa/Australasia, or something like that.

Come to think of it, the balkanizing wouldn't actually be needed. Just the realism nuts letting the coolness factor of it all override their natural desire to nitpick, or come up with a more realistic way for zeppelins to suddenly become the civil and military transport of choice.
That is a blastingly fetching idea areesta , most us would love that.

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| October 30, 2010, 9:46 am
Quoting Glenn streeter
I cant wait to see Finn ,areetsa and john bankrupt themselves because of those icmb's they keep launching.

Actually they already had those ICBMs, so they don't cost anything.

Now if they started building ICBMs then you would be correct.
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| October 30, 2010, 10:02 am
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Honestly, I just died a little looking at your comment Areetsa'C. Don't get me wrong, it was very well worded and well thought out, but I thought that the purpose of the new one was to promote a *smidge* more realism than this one.
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| October 30, 2010, 10:58 am
Quoting Matt Hacker
Honestly, I just died a little looking at your comment. Don't get me wrong, it was very well worded and well thought out, but I thought that the purpose of the new one was to promote a *smidge* more realism than this one.

That's why there's going to be a split.
Some people want less realism while, you, Tom, Evan, and probably Andrew want more realism.

I for one think the group's perfect tech wise. Maybe if we made it so that there would be more governing and less fighting like Sponty suggested then we would make some more progress.
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| October 30, 2010, 11:03 am
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Quoting Jake H.
That's why there's going to be a split.
Some people want less realism while, you, Tom, Evan, and probably Andrew want more realism.

I for one think the group's perfect tech wise. Maybe if we made it so that there would be more governing and less fighting like Sponty suggested then we would make some more progress.


Your idea is good, but impossible. Everyone would have to agree for more governing, and lets face it, this is a military-focused group. The time for diplomacy in this one is gone (for the most part) and now wars will pretty much dictate the future of the group. The new group will be a perfect place for more diplomacy and governing as everyone will be developing, rather than at maximum capacity. Besides, its not like most people here accept diplomacy.
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| October 30, 2010, 11:40 am
Quoting Matt Hacker

Your idea is good, but impossible. Everyone would have to agree for more governing, and lets face it, this is a military-focused group. The time for diplomacy in this one is gone (for the most part) and now wars will pretty much dictate the future of the group. The new group will be a perfect place for more diplomacy and governing as everyone will be developing, rather than at maximum capacity. Besides, its not like most people here accept diplomacy.

Sorry, my previous comments was poorly worded.

I meant we should make the new group more diplomatic, and governing focused. So yeah, I agree with you on everything but the tech.
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| October 30, 2010, 12:06 pm
Wait, what's this now? Why are we making a new group when this one's still alive and well?
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| October 30, 2010, 12:07 pm
Quoting John Moffatt
Wait, what's this now? Why are we making a new group when this one's still alive and well?

Spontaneous and friends are making a new group to try out new ideas, while this one continues for the next year or so.
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| October 30, 2010, 12:10 pm
New stuff: night fighter, tear gas grenade, gas mask.
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| October 30, 2010, 12:15 pm
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Quoting Matt Hacker
Honestly, I just died a little looking at your comment Areetsa'C. Don't get me wrong, it was very well worded and well thought out, but I thought that the purpose of the new one was to promote a *smidge* more realism than this one.


It is. But Areetsa's idea sounds like fantastic fun.

Quoting Matt Hacker
Besides, its not like most people here accept diplomacy.


I am the diplomacy master, mah boi. Alexios Komnenos looks at me, and gives me a nod.
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| October 30, 2010, 12:25 pm
Link me to the new plz k thx
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| October 30, 2010, 1:29 pm
Quoting Awesome-o-saurus The Not-So-Great

It is. But Areetsa's idea sounds like fantastic fun.

It does , after all we need something that's more light than this group.

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| October 30, 2010, 1:39 pm
Quoting Jake H.
I feel so peaceful.
It's past 12:00, North Africa is at peace, and I'm listening to this.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V4nx--JKLZ4&feature=related

Whisist in Russia...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uZYoQpRUFG4
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| October 30, 2010, 1:43 pm
Quoting Finn C-Q
Whisist in Russia...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uZYoQpRUFG4
While in poland http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dTmrq_Nf4FY
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| October 30, 2010, 1:58 pm
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Quoting Finn C-Q
Link me to the new plz k thx


No, it's not made yet.

On that note, everyone pipe down about new groups. When they're ready, Evan and Erik will make a topic about it.

This is for this group only. Any further posts on the new group will be deleted, including ones from me.
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| October 30, 2010, 3:31 pm
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India announces the completion of its first pocket-class carrier (pics soon) as well as its first indigenous patrol boat design (same). More F-2s are being built to fill orders for the carriers, as well as the air force. And the strategic air arm is slated to receive delivery of the new strategic bomber by November's end (that's how long it will take to build it).

I hope the war in China is going well, and support will soon be coming from Saudi Arabia to speed up the conquest.

Quoting Awesome-o-saurus The Not-So-Great
It is. But Areetsa's idea sounds like fantastic fun.

I feel compelled to voice my concurrence with him as well.

It has to have a different time line or it will be the death of this group. Who would want to spend the time we do here on two of the same thing? Oh, one might be a bit more 'realistic' but it will either kill this one, or the other one will be stillborn. That's how I see it stacking up.

Or, I will just wait until everyone is inactive and take over the world...
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| October 30, 2010, 3:58 pm
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The completion of the second Europa-class vessel is nearing quite quickly. The ship is scheduled to be inducted into service by end-week; of course sea trials will follow en suite. This aircraft carrier will be the third to serve within the Napoleonic Navy and will fly the colors of every UFE nation.

Anyhow, a revision is underway in which concerns the capability and diversity within present force mechanization. A portion of the defense budget has been set aside to open an array of contracts that includes several vehicular and other designs. Along with the AIFV Mk.II, a simple APC design is presently included as well and may see production shortly. More on this later I suppose.

Moving along, the re-design of the Australian F-111s is about finalized. The actual upgrade kits will be beginning installation later this week and testing a bit after that. Again, more on this later.

Also, the fleet in the Persian Gulf is on its way home; aside from two Hydra-class GMDs that will lag behind for a few weeks to ensure maximum security during the transitional period. A council of Commonwealth officials have been organized to govern the territory at the moment as to foretell items of future interest.
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| October 30, 2010, 4:29 pm
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@North Africa: Meh, if peace has been declared then peace has been declared. In return, I only want 20 Armadillos Mr. Algeria.

@Cliffe: I'm going to keep building your defenses on Egypt and Sudan's border, because peace is never too long over here in this group! Also, I'm going to keep my base in the Sinai manned, but less AAA will be placed along the Suez.

@New Group: Joining is not planned at this moment.
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| October 30, 2010, 4:30 pm
Mongolian forces are gearing up for Operation: Low Blow
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| October 30, 2010, 4:31 pm
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Quoting John Moffatt
Mongolian forces are gearing up for Operation: Low Blow


Now who are you gonna go after next?

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| October 30, 2010, 4:34 pm
Imma help out my Russian buddies.
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| October 30, 2010, 4:38 pm
Quoting Nick Shelton
I only want 20 Armadillos Mr. Algeria.


More?
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| October 30, 2010, 4:39 pm
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Quoting Jake H.
More?

We've got to have....TRANSPORT!

Quoting John Moffatt.
Operation Low Blow


Are you going after who I think you are, or is it me.

If it's me, my sand worms have always wanted to visit the Gobi.
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| October 30, 2010, 4:42 pm
Quoting Nick Shelton
We've got to have....TRANSPORT!


I'll sell them to you for 4 million each.
They might have a few dings in them though. All my factories are piles of rubble.

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| October 30, 2010, 4:57 pm
Quoting Nick Shelton


Are you going after who I think you are, or is it me.

If it's me, my sand worms have always wanted to visit the Gobi.

Oh no, I wouldn't attack you. Who do you think I'm attacking?
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| October 30, 2010, 5:02 pm
Quoting Nick Shelton
We've got to have....TRANSPORT!

Quoting John Moffatt.
Operation Low Blow


Are you going after who I think you are, or is it me.

If it's me, my sand worms have always wanted to visit the Gobi.
Yes Nick the bear's have been after me an cliffe we need reinforcements.

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| October 30, 2010, 5:12 pm
Quoting John Moffatt
Oh no, I wouldn't attack you. Who do you think I'm attacking?

Me and cliffe.
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| October 30, 2010, 5:13 pm
 Group admin 
The PCU is extending a free-trade agreement to Mexico.

I'd like to hire your native people to build my buildings. >.>
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| October 30, 2010, 5:37 pm
 Group admin 
Quoting Evan Melick
Way to be that guy Nick.

They'll be receiving money, money that can go to the Mexican government that they can use for their military.
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| October 30, 2010, 5:55 pm
Quoting Jake H.
Here's the situation :
Cliffe will let me surrender if I give up all territories (although really what I have going on is more of a coalition)and admit defeat/he was right/etc.

I'm unwilling to hand over all my territories.

Since when are we surrendering? As far as I understand we have Libya and Tunisia (our innitial objectives) and their still trying to maintain a beachead in Algeria. Listen, I know this past month I haven't been too active, but we can still win this.
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| October 30, 2010, 6:19 pm
Quoting Nick Shelton
They'll be receiving money, money that can go to the Mexican government that they can use for their military.

Nick cliffe and I need help on the eastern front are you able to help us.
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| October 30, 2010, 6:26 pm
Quoting -> avalella
Since when are we surrendering? As far as I understand we have Libya and Tunisia (our innitial objectives) and their still trying to maintain a beachead in Algeria. Listen, I know this past month I haven't been too active, but we can still win this.

That's the problem, I neglected to send links to all of the MOCs I was using, so they have more than beach heads. My assaults failed.

Also I no longer have the time.
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| October 30, 2010, 6:34 pm
Quoting Jake H.
That's the problem, I neglected to send links to all of the MOCs I was using, so they have more than beach heads. My assaults failed.

Also I no longer have the time.

1. Were the mocs on your mocpages?
2. Did the CM ask you about the mocs?
3. Would you consider allowing me to seize military control over your forces? The will only be used defensively.
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| October 30, 2010, 7:13 pm
Quoting -> avalella
1. Were the mocs on your mocpages?
2. Did the CM ask you about the mocs?

1. half were, the rest were on Flickr. It took me 5 minutes to scroll through my photo stream to view ALL of the MOCs I had made for this group.
2. no
3. I want to wait until tomorrow.
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| October 30, 2010, 7:22 pm
 Group moderator 
Quoting Glenn streeter
I cant wait to see Finn ,areetsa and john bankrupt themselves because of those icmb's they keep launching.

I'm not launching any. I'm bombing you with air launched cruise missiles, which admittedly aren't cheap, but ICBMs are too indiscriminately destructive for me.

When I get in a conflict, I want either land, facilities or loot. ICBMs don't leave any of the latter two behind.

Quoting Awesome-o-saurus The Not-So-Great
It is. But Areetsa's idea sounds like fantastic fun.

Of course. Supply lines and resources would be just as realistic, of course. It's just that the combat units they'd supply and the way the supplies are moved would be a little... mmm, realistic by a slightly different definition of realism.

Quoting Glenn streeter
It does , after all we need something that's more light than this group.

It wouldn't be lighter. Two words? Air pirates. All the evulz of regular pirates, but they can get anywhere as long as the forces in the way aren't too tough.

Air pirates strafing children's hospitals? Well, standard procedure for pirates. Air pirates raiding orphanages for slaves? Same thing. That sort of thing. Although of course some pirates would be more villainous than others. And then there's the states that want what they want and don't care who they kill to get it.

The Nick from early in the game with his PCU? Yeah, they'd either be good guys or in the gray bit.

I should probably stop going on about that. There's too many games like this already.


Where's Cliffe? I want to ask him some hard questions about his logistics.
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| October 30, 2010, 7:35 pm
Conditional Surrender:
1. ALL military forces are withdrawn from Algeria
2. Most of Libya will become a buffer state.
3. I say I was wrong you were right, you won, etc.
4. Mali becomes its own state, but I keep all government owned assets.
5. I cease negotiations with Mauritania.
6. Hostilities are ceased, unless this treaty is violated.
7. this treaty is effective for three months.
8 I can still send non offensive help to my allies.
say "/confirmed" if you are fine with it
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| October 30, 2010, 7:35 pm
Quoting Areetsa C

Where's Cliffe? I want to ask him some hard questions about his logistics.

Before you turn on me, my statistics need updating.
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| October 30, 2010, 7:40 pm
 Group admin 
Quoting Jake H.
Conditional Surrender:
1. ALL military forces are withdrawn from Algeria
2. Most of Libya will become a buffer state.
3. I say I was wrong you were right, you won, etc.
4. Mali becomes its own state, but I keep all government owned assets.
5. I cease negotiations with Mauritania.
6. Hostilities are ceased, unless this treaty is violated.
7. this treaty is effective for three months.
8 I can still send non offensive help to my allies.
say "/confirmed" if you are fine with it

/confirmed.


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| October 30, 2010, 7:43 pm
Quoting Nick Shelton

I have terms too...
1. Hostilities will cease between us
2. Navy shall not draw within the Gulf of Guinea without permission
3. Free complimentary roses!
Say /confirmed if you agree.

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| October 30, 2010, 8:34 pm
 Group admin 
Quoting Brikkr ™
I have terms too...
1. Hostilities will cease between us
2. Reimbursment for lost planes/equipment
3. Navy shall not draw within the Gulf of Guinea without permission
4. Say /confirmed if you agree.

/Turns head.

"No!"
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| October 30, 2010, 8:41 pm
Quoting Nick Shelton
/Turns head.

"No!"

D: what? Fine. I'll just quit.
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| October 30, 2010, 8:49 pm
Quoting Brikkr ™
D: what? Fine. I'll just quit.

Tim mah boi,

Cliffe and Nick are demanding dictators. You've gotta lower your expectations.
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| October 30, 2010, 8:51 pm
Quoting Jake H.
Tim mah boi,

Cliffe and Nick are demanding dictators. You've gotta lower your expectations.

<.<
>.>
Stalker...
I'll add in a vase of roses! ;)
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| October 30, 2010, 8:57 pm
Quoting Brikkr ™
<.<
>.>
Stalker...

hehehe
http://www.flickr.com/photos/republic_of_brendonia/5097456369/
you posted a link to your name right there.
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| October 30, 2010, 9:01 pm
Quoting Brikkr ™

I'll add in a vase of roses! ;)

Try getting rid of number four.
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| October 30, 2010, 9:02 pm
@Glen in that comment Areetsa made: You think those were MY ICBMs? I just walked into North Korea and puched some buttons. Cost me air-fare for a couple thousand soldiers.

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| October 30, 2010, 9:06 pm
Quoting John Moffatt
I just walked into North Korea and puched some buttons. Cost me air-fare for a couple thousand soldiers.

That's what I told him. The countries firing them will probably save money on maintenance.
Of course replacing them will be difficult.
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| October 30, 2010, 9:08 pm
 Group moderator 
A while ago I said that I knew someone who was interested in joining, and reserved Argentina for him. He now has his three MOCs, and has been following this group for some time.

whanry/ Henry Wang
http://mocpages.com/home.php/63278

If an admin would be so kind to invite him.
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| October 30, 2010, 9:08 pm
Algerian update:
-economy in Algeria is going to be rebuilt
-military factories are also going to be rebuilt, but spread out more
Niger:
-foreign trade is going to be encouraged, as we try to expand our economy
-highways into south Libya and Tunisia are also going to be built
Tunisia:
Southern Tunisia's infrastructure's going to be beefed up a little.
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| October 30, 2010, 9:15 pm
 Group admin 
Looks like peace is on the way. I shall establish my buffer state in northern Libya, and it shall be fresh. Y'all get the resource areas, I'll make sure no attacks can come from Egypt at you.
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| October 30, 2010, 9:18 pm
 Group admin 
Quoting Jake H.
Algerian update:
-economy in Algeria is going to be rebuilt
-military factories are also going to be rebuilt, but spread out more
Niger:
-foreign trade is going to be encouraged, as we try to expand our economy
-highways into south Libya and Tunisia are also going to be built
Tunisia:
Southern Tunisia's infrastructure's going to be beefed up a little.

As you now have Tunisia, you have the option of extending the ARTS rail lines in Tunis throughout your territory, connecting your nation via high speed rail to much of Africa.
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| October 30, 2010, 9:25 pm
 Group admin 
Quoting Awesome-o-saurus The Not-So-Great
Looks like peace is on the way. I shall establish my buffer state in northern Libya, and it shall be fresh. Y'all get the resource areas, I'll make sure no attacks can come from Egypt at you.

The ARTS rail line also runs through yourprtion of Libya, just to let you know.
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| October 30, 2010, 9:26 pm
 Group admin 
Quoting Thomas N
The ARTS rail line also runs through yourprtion of Libya, just to let you know.


Is that yours, or something?
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| October 30, 2010, 9:27 pm
Quoting Thomas N
The ARTS rail line also runs through yourprtion of Libya, just to let you know.

You get my flickr mail? I ask because I've had issues with it before.
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| October 30, 2010, 9:27 pm
Quoting Thomas N
As you now have Tunisia, you have the option of extending the ARTS rail lines in Tunis throughout your territory, connecting your nation via high speed rail to much of Africa.

I'll definitely do that.
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| October 30, 2010, 9:27 pm
 Group admin 
Quoting Awesome-o-saurus The Not-So-Great

Is that yours, or something?

No, its a collaborative infrastructure/transportation project between several lands in Africa.

So far, I've got it running the length of Oceanian East Africa, where it connects to Cliffe in Egypt, and from there, it connects to both your portion of Libya (all the way to Tunis, this was built back when Canada controlled Libya and Tunisia) and into Jack's Arabia.
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| October 30, 2010, 9:39 pm
Quoting Jake H.
I'll definitely do that.

I should connect my slice of Africa with you.
- Nigeria is now going to build the ARTS north to link up with Algeria.
Jake, get the golden spike ready!
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| October 30, 2010, 9:39 pm
 Group moderator 
Finland Update
-Swedish military begins recovery under my supervision
- Patrols around Sweden are continuing
- Four of the Five Hydras that are not yet in full service are undergoing Sea Trials in the Arctic Ocean
- Implementation of Finnish-compatible Networked Battlefield systems have begun in Sweden (not connected to Finland's, just the same type)

We welcome our newest member, Henry Wang!
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| October 30, 2010, 9:56 pm
Hello my name is Henry Wang,

I am new member joining in as Argentina. I am a very peaceful person and I am not interested in going into any sort of armed conflict; unless it's a last resort. I am very interested in having strong ties with the nations in my region and abroad. I express deep interest in joining the IIS. My economy will mainly be production based, ship building, and energy production (oil drilling and green energy). My first order of business to revamp the economy, infrastructure, and modernize the military.
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| October 30, 2010, 9:57 pm
 Group admin 
Quoting henry wang
and modernize the military.


I wonder how much equipment the PCU left when they pulled out...
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| October 30, 2010, 9:58 pm
Quoting henry wang
Hello my name is Henry Wang,

I am new member joining in as Argentina. I am a very peaceful person and I am not interested in going into any sort of armed conflict; unless it's a last resort. I am very interested in having strong ties with the nations in my region and abroad. I express deep interest in joining the IIS. My economy will mainly be production based, ship building, and energy production (oil drilling and green energy). My first order of business to revamp the economy, infrastructure, and modernize the military.

I can help you with urban warfare, and ground vehicles. I probably have the largest amount of UV's in the group.
Do you have a Flickr?
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| October 30, 2010, 9:59 pm
 Group admin 
Quoting henry wang
Hello my name is Henry Wang,

I am new member joining in as Argentina. I am a very peaceful person and I am not interested in going into any sort of armed conflict; unless it's a last resort. I am very interested in having strong ties with the nations in my region and abroad. I express deep interest in joining the IIS. My economy will mainly be production based, ship building, and energy production (oil drilling and green energy). My first order of business to revamp the economy, infrastructure, and modernize the military.

Welcome to the group!

And you don't have to be a total pacifist, I personally would recommend going after Uruguay, Paraguay, or Bolivia to do some land-snatching, before anyone else tries to invade there.
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| October 30, 2010, 10:00 pm
Cliffe sent me a rather nasty FM. I think he needs anger management.
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| October 30, 2010, 10:02 pm
Algeria has no right to decide what becomes of Libya. As of now USCA forces occupy it. You want it, your going to have to fight for it. I'm not surrendering.
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| October 30, 2010, 10:02 pm
Quoting -> avalella
Algeria has no right to decide what becomes of Libya.

vat?

I'm confused.
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| October 30, 2010, 10:04 pm
 Group admin 
Quoting -> avalella
Algeria has no right to decide what becomes of Libya. As of now USCA forces occupy it. You want it, your going to have to fight for it. I'm not surrendering.

You already get to keep all of southern Libya, and Rome is establishing its buffer state of Tripoli in Northern Libya.
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| October 30, 2010, 10:05 pm
Quoting Brikkr ™
Cliffe sent me a rather nasty FM. I think he needs anger management.

Could you forward it to me?

I need lulz.
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| October 30, 2010, 10:05 pm
 Group admin 
Quoting -> avalella
Algeria has no right to decide what becomes of Libya. As of now USCA forces occupy it. You want it, your going to have to fight for it. I'm not surrendering.


I don't want the south, you keep it.

If this is not good enough, challenge accepted.
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| October 30, 2010, 10:06 pm
Quoting Thomas N
You already get to keep all of southern Libya, and Rome is establishing its buffer state of Tripoli in Northern Libya.

EXACTLY

I gave my section of Libya away, you got that southern city, Roma got everything up to Tripoli.
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| October 30, 2010, 10:06 pm
Quoting Thomas N
Welcome to the group!

And you don't have to be a total pacifist, I personally would recommend going after Uruguay, Paraguay, or Bolivia to do some land-snatching, before anyone else tries to invade there.


Thanks. I might actually do that, thanks for the idea.
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| October 30, 2010, 10:06 pm
 Group admin 
Quoting henry wang
Hello my name is Henry Wang,

I am new member joining in as Argentina. I am a very peaceful person and I am not interested in going into any sort of armed conflict; unless it's a last resort. I am very interested in having strong ties with the nations in my region and abroad. I express deep interest in joining the IIS. My economy will mainly be production based, ship building, and energy production (oil drilling and green energy). My first order of business to revamp the economy, infrastructure, and modernize the military.

As your neighbor to the east, would ye like to open up some open borders for trade?
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| October 30, 2010, 10:06 pm
Quoting Thomas N
You already get to keep all of southern Libya, and Rome is establishing its buffer state of Tripoli in Northern Libya.

That's a negative. Rome pulled out a while ago, and I've had military control of Libya for a about a week, and I've been integrating it into the USCA. Algeria only controls Tunisia.
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| October 30, 2010, 10:07 pm
 Group admin 
Quoting -> avalella
That's a negative. Rome pulled out a while ago, and I've had military control of Libya for a about a week, and I've been integrating it into the USCA. Algeria only controls Tunisia.


No, that's a negative. I'm still in Tripoli and the surrounding areas, for some number of days now. I've been asking if anyone else is there, but I've gotten no replies. As I said, you can have the south and the oil there.

If that's not good enough, bring it on.
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| October 30, 2010, 10:09 pm
Quoting -> avalella
That's a negative. Rome pulled out a while ago.

Orly?

When/where did Awe say this?
Trust me you want Awe in Libya. all PE troops will have to go though Chad to get to your territory.
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| October 30, 2010, 10:09 pm
Quoting Awesome-o-saurus The Not-So-Great

I've been asking if anyone else is there, but I've gotten no replies.


Confirmed, I pulled out to let you move in.
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| October 30, 2010, 10:10 pm
 Group admin 
Quoting -> avalella
That's a negative. Rome pulled out a while ago, and I've had military control of Libya for a about a week, and I've been integrating it into the USCA. Algeria only controls Tunisia.

Rome didn't pull out, Rome is making its state of Tripoli, just ask Awe.

You've got the rest of Libya under your control.

Check Awe's map for which territory he took, and which was left to you.
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| October 30, 2010, 10:10 pm
Quoting Nick Shelton
As your neighbor to the east, would ye like to open up some open borders for

That sounds like a very good idea; I'm ok with it as long as you are.
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| October 30, 2010, 10:10 pm
By the way, the bomber for Finn and John Dawn is done. I'm going to make some revisions, but It's almost as close to perfect as I can get it.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/jake_h/5129735354/
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| October 30, 2010, 10:11 pm
 Group admin 
Quoting henry wang
Quoting Nick Shelton
As your neighbor to the east, would ye like to open up some open borders for

I'm fine with it.


Alright then. I'll start sending my merchants over the border to sell some goods.

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| October 30, 2010, 10:13 pm
Well, for a while I had completely forgotten about the ARTS. In any case, the Sudanese part of the line has been connected with the Australian portion for quite some time now, and the Algerian portion will be connected shortly in what I'm sure will be a very heart-felt ceremony with a spike that is not only gold but also silver, copper, platinum, and topped with a diamond suspended in Egyptian lapis lazuli. :D

Speaking of Algeria, I must first ask- we're pretty tight now, aren't we? Well, at least I feel like it. Now that the war is over and the celebrations are absolutely RAMPANT EVERYWHERE across Algeria and home in Egypt, I think we should have a permanent alliance already. We admit it, we absolutely love you guys.

So then, how about a little exchange?

I will give you all production rights to the Hyperfalcon AND Magnetic Thrust Vectoring Mk. I and Mk. II if you give me production rights to your new stealth fighter. It scares me :-P I absolutely love it, it's just what I need.

And just to let you know, you should probably warn your citizens to buy lots of candy on short notice. My boys want to go trick-or-treating this year :-)

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| October 30, 2010, 10:21 pm
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