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International Conversation Forum XXXIX
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Here we go!

Highlights:
-PE land break-up continues.
-Countries continuing to stabilize.
-AIO growing stronger, whilst everyone else grows steadily inactive.
-Africa still pretty-well in limbo.
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| November 7, 2010, 9:00 pm
It seems like none of the three groups are active. /sigh
Robotics research continues.
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| November 7, 2010, 9:05 pm
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Quoting Ultramarine .
-AIO growing stronger, whilst everyone else grows steadily inactive.


Perhaps without Cliffe there is no real threat, hence "peacetime". And in peacetime war funds are slashed and grows more stagnant. That is what I say.
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| November 7, 2010, 9:08 pm
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Quoting Matt Hacker

Perhaps without Cliffe there is no real threat, hence "peacetime". And in peacetime war funds are slashed and grows more stagnant. That is what I say.

Perhaps without the group of 'Diplomats and Legions' there would continue to be full activity!

That's what I say...
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| November 7, 2010, 9:46 pm
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Quoting Ultramarine .
Perhaps without the group of 'Diplomats and Legions' there would continue to be full activity!

That's what I say...


Maybe people are just tired of being stuck in their corner of the world. You can b1tch all you want about the new group but that wont change the fact that it has, in fact, happened, and it happens to have more activity.
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| November 7, 2010, 9:48 pm
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Quoting Matt Hacker

Maybe people are just tired of being stuck in their corner of the world. You can b1tch all you want about the new group but that wont change the fact that it has, in fact, happened, and it happens to have more activity.

Apparently some chose our lands a bit more wisely than others. It's a shame rather...
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| November 7, 2010, 9:53 pm
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Quoting Matt Hacker

Maybe people are just tired of being stuck in their corner of the world. You can b1tch all you want about the new group but that wont change the fact that it has, in fact, happened, and it happens to have more activity.


Matt, I think it's just his narcissistic nature. It's been apparent in several posts of his.
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| November 7, 2010, 9:54 pm
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Quoting Ham N' Biscuits

Matt, I think it's just his narcissistic nature. It's been apparent in several posts of his.

Hardyharhar. I'm just a guy looking out for his country, in a rather fictitious world...

It's not my fault you attacked me and made a pain of yourself afterward, is it?
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| November 7, 2010, 9:59 pm
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Quoting Ultramarine .
Apparently some chose our lands a bit more wisely than others. It's a shame rather...


Its a shame that you think that the new group is unjustified. (PS its not and most people chose places because they wanted to have fun there instead of being cramped inside a bit of land and to get more would require pissing off a huge defesne pact).
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| November 7, 2010, 10:05 pm
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Quoting Matt Hacker

Its a shame that you think that the new group is unjustified. (PS its not and most people chose places because they wanted to have fun there instead of being cramped inside a bit of land and to get more would require pissing off a huge defesne pact).

NOT unjustified, I just saw it for what it was, and I knew what it would do to this group. It just killed me that everyone was promising up and down that it wouldn't detract from this one, and the fact is, it has; and no one has admitted it, at all.

Why in the world couldn't it have been a different time line like several suggested?!

Anyhow, I don't feel like rehashing this all again.
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| November 7, 2010, 10:12 pm
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Quoting Matt Hacker

Its a shame that you think that the new group is unjustified. (PS its not and most people chose places because they wanted to have fun there instead of being cramped inside a bit of land and to get more would require pissing off a huge defesne pact).


I second this. I was rather crammed in America, so I had to go to Africa.

@Ultramarine: You still don't get the fact that when you go to war, you risk being attacked on the homefront. Ask Awe about Oregon in WWII.
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| November 7, 2010, 10:13 pm
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Cliffe would have ragequit either way. Without Cliffe, this group withers away.
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| November 7, 2010, 10:17 pm
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Quoting Ham N' Biscuits
@Ultramarine: You still don't get the fact that when you go to war, you risk being attacked on the homefront. Ask Awe about Oregon in WWII.

Yeah, no kidding. Except I wasn't at war at the time; with anyone.

And I know about those little balloon ICBMs that Japan launched, no big secret.

You just can't get over loosing, can you? You're as bad as Cliffe.
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| November 7, 2010, 10:19 pm
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Quoting Ultramarine .
Yeah, no kidding. Except I wasn't at war at the time; with anyone.

And I know about those little balloon ICBMs that Japan launched, no big secret.

You just can't get over loosing, can you? You're as bad as Cliffe.


I seem to remember you mobilized to help the Africans fight Cliffe.

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| November 7, 2010, 10:22 pm
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I've been in the 2036 timeline a total of four times now, and it's always the same.

Beating around the bush forever, until a few months later. Big war, major backstabbing, end of power. Group dies.
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| November 7, 2010, 10:25 pm
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Quoting Ham N' Biscuits

I seem to remember you mobilized to help the Africans fight Cliffe.

And he and I were in the process of a diplomatic solution. He was about to back down when you decided to be Johnny-jump-the-gun and lighted the whole world. But I bear you no ill will, I sufficiently routed you then; and maybe again, unless you watch your step in Europe.
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| November 7, 2010, 10:28 pm
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Quoting Nick Shelton
I've been in the 2036 timeline a total of four times now, and it's always the same.

Beating around the bush forever, until a few months later. Big war, major backstabbing, end of power. Group dies.


That's the problem with these groups. We set a realistic timerate so that nothing insane happens, but when the big war is over, and no one is left that can fight each other, then we don't have the time for another power to rise before everyone looses interest.


Quoting Ultramarine .


You just can't get over loosing, can you? You're as bad as Cliffe.


Actually, it was a submarine and Fort Stevens exchanging fire, and a fire bombing of a forest near the border with California.
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| November 7, 2010, 10:29 pm
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Quoting Awesome-o-saurus The Not-So-Great

That's the problem with these groups. We set a realistic timerate so that nothing insane happens, but when the big war is over, and no one is left that can fight each other, then we don't have the time for another power to rise before everyone looses interest.

*loses

Also, four times? Did I miss a go?
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| November 7, 2010, 10:34 pm
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Quoting Dr. Spontaneous
Quoting Awesome-o-saurus The Not-So-Great

That's the problem with these groups. We set a realistic timerate so that nothing insane happens, but when the big war is over, and no one is left that can fight each other, then we don't have the time for another power to rise before everyone looses interest.

*loses

Also, four times? Did I miss a go?


I see. And no, not four times. I don't think I said four in my statement.

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| November 7, 2010, 10:36 pm
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Quoting Awesome-o-saurus The Not-So-Great

I see. And no, not four times. I don't think I said four in my statement.

Nick did. And I figured you to be in agreement with that number granted the appropriation of your reply to him. My bad, bro.
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| November 7, 2010, 10:38 pm
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Quoting Awesome-o-saurus The Not-So-Great
Actually, it was a submarine and Fort Stevens exchanging fire, and a fire bombing of a forest near the border with California.

Really? Cool. Did you know, though, in 1945 the Japanese launched several weather balloons with high explosives into the jet streams? Only about three of them made it, one killed a few people (in Oregon, I think) at a picnic. President Roosevelt banned press publication of the attacks to make the Japanese think they never made it. It worked, apparently, because they stopped coming.
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| November 7, 2010, 10:38 pm
What is this talk of peace? I'll be ready to mix things up in about a week when the 747's are done.
Muahaha!
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| November 7, 2010, 10:43 pm
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Quoting John Moffatt
What is this talk of peace? I'll be ready to mix things up in about a week when the 747's are done.
Muahaha!

I wasn't talking peace, I'd just like to see where I am on the map before I start anything...
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| November 7, 2010, 10:45 pm
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Quoting Ultramarine .
Really? Cool. Did you know, though, in 1945 the Japanese launched several weather balloons with high explosives into the jet streams? Only about three of them made it, one killed a few people (in Oregon, I think) at a picnic. President Roosevelt banned press publication of the attacks to make the Japanese think they never made it. It worked, apparently, because they stopped coming.


Interesting... Sneaky sneaky Roosevelt.

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| November 7, 2010, 10:45 pm
Quoting Matt Hacker

Perhaps without Cliffe there is no real threat, hence "peacetime". And in peacetime war funds are slashed and grows more stagnant. That is what I say.

I was referring to that, Ultra.

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| November 7, 2010, 10:46 pm
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Quoting John Moffatt
I was referring to that, Ultra.

Ah, got it.
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| November 7, 2010, 10:59 pm
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Quoting John Moffatt
What is this talk of peace? I'll be ready to mix things up in about a week when the 747's are done.
Muahaha!


Sounds like fun.
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| November 7, 2010, 10:59 pm
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You know, if it was literally impossible, or at least highly dependent on luck, to expand larger than the current IRL size of Spain, say, and survive for more than a few months, people wouldn't get nearly as bored nearly as fast.
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| November 7, 2010, 11:21 pm
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Quoting Thomas N
No, we are not implementing air pirates or aliens to check the growth of people's empires. That's for your own group, which I realize doesn't have much activity (although that's mostly due to Glenn jumping the gun and starting the group, leading to a lack of activity due to his obscurity...).

Speaking of Glenn, are you going to keep Poland now that you've conquered it? Or will you be returning the land to unclaimed territory devoid of value?

It's not my group. Whoever ends up running it will probably have to take a purely administrative role, controlling NPC factions and so forth. That doesn't sound like much fun to me, although I'm sure some people would be thrilled.


Poland? Well, my goals are to plunder it of anything of value, and then go home. After that, well, it'll depend on what Glenn does.
Dawn'll probably be in to add it to his collection of Lebensraum before long, though.
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| November 8, 2010, 4:12 pm
Hmm... I guess I am close to 60% Developed now.

-Construction of an Airbase in B. Faso continues.
-Plans for being Evil brew in my head.
-Production of the AH-1 begins.
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| November 8, 2010, 4:33 pm
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Security is high within Finland and the BAMF nations. Swedish anti terror operatives have uncovered a plot using civilian airliners to target locations in the BAMF. All international flights are canceled, domestic flights are on high alert, and all airspace is being patrolled by fighter aircraft (who have permission to fire upon all violators after three failed communication or identification attempt).

A long awaited cruiser design has been finalized, and production in Finland's dockyards is commencing. However, due to the massive cost of the new design, as well as a cutback on spending, only two units will be procured at this time.
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| November 8, 2010, 5:14 pm
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Now that India's economy isn't under the constant strain of war (for the time being), production has been able to increase on everything else. Among these being the second Phoenix-class carrier, and the completion of five more Cheetah-class destroyers. Another dozen or so F-2s and F-3s have rolled off the lines, and the Arjun II project is nearing completion with only 100 more examples on order.
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| November 9, 2010, 12:12 am
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A Roman freighter rescued a strange man named Jonathan Thrace from Antarctica today. He claims he was drilling for oil. If Mr. Thrace, who calls himself Phaze, wants oil, it's his. He has been made Exarch of Tripoli, and will oversee our operations in Libya and Tunisia (as a vassal state, like Cisco in Trebounia).
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| November 9, 2010, 12:16 am
Because I'm getting bored, The first aircraft is now complete and will begin testing operations today.
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| November 9, 2010, 12:18 am
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News about the Swedish terror ring continues to stream in. Evidently, they had hoped to steal an EMP device and load it onto commercial aircraft, then activate them over key targets. In light of this information, All military structures and vehicles (including warships) will be tested to ensure that they are EMP shielded. An additional layer of silicon-based EMP "Buffer" will be applied to electronics. Aircraft and bases are our primary concern.
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| November 9, 2010, 2:56 pm
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Although word from the ADCC has been scarce, this hiatus has been anything but relaxed. Arms production has increased by some measure and is presently stabilizing to a controlled rate that doesn't surpass the defense budget. Munitions are now at a rate of offensive stockpile rather than mere x-weeks of defense. The upgrades to the military fleets [land, sea, and air] are continuing while simultaneously producing a fair number of jobs for the market via non-sensitive kit production.

Air wing upgrades and revised production on more F-35s and the accommodating "P" kits is still underway. The latter two items of course being of great concern granted France and her allies wish to make sure we're able to match or deter opposing air fleets. Training with these new and/or improved airframes is also being increased so experience may be gained during this rather extended era of tranquility.

Also, the second Europa-class vessel has been tidied up and is presently serving at the "active" level. Personnel and air wings from all nations of the UFE are currently aboard; a congruent gesture done by the Commonwealth. The two carriers acquired from Oceania will remain in active service of course; however, their roles will be rotated by some measure. At least one of the two Oceania-built vessels will serve as extended domestic defense while the other two ACCs manage to serve our overseas territories and any possible offensives. All of this is of course beyond anything presently devised or needed, but still nice to have them all the same.

The air defense and warning systems in which began upgrading some time ago is right near the completion mark. The final systems are being tested and public demonstrations of the external devices will likely happen shortly as to give the taxpayers a glimpse as to what their money was being spent upon.

Also, border defense and alertness near the Franco-German border has relaxed by a slight measure granted nostalgic hostilities are likely a no-go. The forces being withdrawn back to their accommodating home bases will still run mock-runs as to not compromise the alertness of our defense. Still, great interests have been arisen in restoring Switzerland to its proper position as a neutral and sovereign state. Presently, France is wishing to know the status of the German occupation in said nation. A rather swift response would be greatly appreciated.

Aside from that, the economy is still running well. Slight drawbacks have been met in terms of our progress to alternate whatevers though; whether it be food production, fuel, or things of that nature. With Prusso-Egypt dissolved, whatever petroleum trade and stabilized routes of commerce have been compromised presently. Because of that, businesses are either trying to demonstrate investments elsewhere or revamping said interests with the recently empowered nations claiming the Prusso-Egyptian territory. This of course means instead of investing in items that may not succeed, larger corporations are trying to cover their rears with more "elderly" methods of commerce. At any rate, this isn't a major blow and things should recover nicely.
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| November 9, 2010, 8:14 pm
Quoting Awesome-o-saurus The Not-So-Great
Libya and Tunisia (as a vassal state, like Cisco in Trebounia).

Hey! I said Carthage. I get to keep the south bit of Tunisia.
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| November 9, 2010, 8:40 pm
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Finnish units have finally begun a series of training exercises to get Sweden fully up to speed with their new equipment. While many Swedes were a bit shaken by the transition from Legacy equipment, to Prusso-Egyptian, and finally to Finnish. However, they do enjoy the speed and low silhouette advantage compared to their former slow and hulking beasts.

Speaking of those beasts, live fire tests against the King Leopard tanks captured during our attack have been conducted. While some of the older generation tank guns (namely 120mm) were unable to penetrate/completely destroy the tanks, the 140 cannon and ATGMs currently employed were able to successfully pierce the thick armor, and caused internal ordinance explosions, often leading to a spectacular sight of the turret, in flames, flying off.

Despite this, tests of the cannon on the King Leopard concluded that it would be likely to easily penetrate current-generation armor (minus the ERA). Thus, work with the Commonwealth has commenced to produce a next-gen Chobham armor for UFE vehicles.
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| November 11, 2010, 10:08 am
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The remaining Iraqi Airforce made a last-ditch offense early this morning, with an attempted bombing run on airforce bases within Saudi Arabia. They were intercepted en route and all were shot down as they attempted to escape.

Between bombing and air-superiority flights, the Iraqi's airforce has been exterminated.

Resistance fighters continue to inflict light damage, but with the help of UAC helicopters and UAH-1s, they are rapidly being defeated. The UAC has begun inserting soldiers into combat areas with MiL-92Cs, which are armed with anti-tank missiles and 80mm rockets. The MiL-92s have been extremely successful in countering terrorist activity, leaving our massive Tu-225 fleet to destroy any heavy resistance sites.



Nick and Ryan's Garcia F-1s have taken off for the appropriate nations.
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| November 11, 2010, 11:38 am
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India has completed trials for the 120mm APAM tank round. New systems are being retrofitted into the Arjun II and Rajput for TC control of fire selection. With this awesome new round, India will now need to produce only one type of round, as this weapon will do the job of three or four conventional rounds. Between 'airburst' and 'armor piercing' selections, the TC can choose to take out a platoon, shoot down a helicopter, or slam through even a Roman tank. This wonderful new toy was developed by the tech shamelessly pilfered from Israel.

I'm not exaggerating, you can google it if you don't believe it. India invites you to shake in fear.
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| November 11, 2010, 12:40 pm
*Remembrance Day Irony* That sounds like a challenge, Ultra.
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| November 11, 2010, 12:49 pm
Quoting Ultramarine .
India has completed trials for the 120mm APAM tank round. New systems are being retrofitted into the Arjun II and Rajput for TC control of fire selection. With this awesome new round, India will now only need to produce only one type of round, as this weapon will do the job of three or four conventional rounds. Between 'airburst' and 'armor piercing' selections, the TC can choose to take out a platoon, shoot down a helicopter, or slam through even a Roman tank. This wonderful new toy was developed by the tech shamelessly pilfered from Israel.

I'm not exaggerating, you can google it if you don't believe it. India invites you to shake in fear.

Yeah Israel has some awesome stuff. I've actually based a couple MOCs off of some of their vehicles.
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| November 11, 2010, 1:08 pm
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Haters gonna hate on my vehicles.
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| November 11, 2010, 1:47 pm
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@ John: Well, he says he's 'watching' me. And it's not so much a 'challenge' as it is a bandwagoning thing since someone else mentioned it. I just figure I'll mention it so the next CM for us knows (if there were ever to be war...).
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| November 11, 2010, 9:37 pm
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Does anyone have a list of the various alliances and who's in them?
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| November 11, 2010, 11:09 pm
Quoting Areetsa C
Does anyone have a list of the various alliances and who's in them?

Brikkr and I are still in our own alliance, but this group's kinda dead.
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| November 11, 2010, 11:14 pm
Quoting Jake H.
Brikkr and I are still in our own alliance, but this group's kinda dead.

Right-o. This group might be err... Experiencing population problems.
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| November 11, 2010, 11:28 pm
Updates! Yahoo!!!
A Hydroelectric dam is being built on the Niger River, and negotiations with Mauritania have begun, and they are under the protection of Nigeria.
Gov't run Vaccinations continue, while most of the nation already has them.
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| November 11, 2010, 11:31 pm
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Quoting Areetsa C
Does anyone have a list of the various alliances and who's in them?


League of the Three Emperors: Nick, me, and whomever is the Kaiser of Germany. Soon, it's gonna be the League of the Two Emperors, unless someone goes Napoleon.
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| November 11, 2010, 11:38 pm
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Quoting Awesome-o-saurus The Not-So-Great

League of the Three Emperors: Nick, me, and whomever is the Kaiser of Germany. Soon, it's gonna be the League of the Two Emperors, unless someone goes Napoleon.


That'd be me. Prusso-Mexico.
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| November 11, 2010, 11:44 pm
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Quoting Ham N' Biscuits

That'd be me. Prusso-Mexico.


o.O

Welcome to the League... How ironic is it that you, our once-enemy, is now in our little alliance?


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| November 11, 2010, 11:56 pm
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Quoting Awesome-o-saurus The Not-So-Great

o.O

Welcome to the League... How ironic is it that you, our once-enemy, is now in our little alliance?



YES! YHES! Ohoho, this is delicious!
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| November 11, 2010, 11:58 pm
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Quoting Ham N' Biscuits

YES! YHES! Ohoho, this is delicious!


>.>

Nick ain't gonna be pleased.
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| November 12, 2010, 12:03 am
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Quoting Awesome-o-saurus The Not-So-Great
o.O

Welcome to the League... How ironic is it that you, our once-enemy, is now in our little alliance?

You know, I don't actually recognize Ham as Kaiser. I mean, the Kaiser-Pharaoh shoots himself in the head one day. That doesn't give a gang of neonazis in Mexico the right to come along and take charge. The rightful heir to the throne of Prussia is the nearest relative to the late Kaiser, and I don't know about the rest of ya, but if the Mexicans don't back off and let the Prussians handle their own succession, there's going to be a mess.
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| November 12, 2010, 12:31 am
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With Iraqi resistance now limited to un-organized and un-succesfull methods, the U.A.C's main air division will withdraw from combat. Our considerable forces of F-5 tigers and MiGs will take over, these aircraft perfectly suited for the job of bombing enemy targets. A modified U.A.C. Nuclear Aircraft Aarrier is being moved to the Atlantic Ocean, for undeclared reasons.

The F-1 Blackfish has fully entered service with the U.A.C. It has already been flown in numerous training missions in the U.A.C. and with the AIO. Its pilots are rapidly familiarizing themselves to the flying-wing maneuverability differences, and are being extensively trained how to effectively use the design's strengths to give it the upper hand in a dogfight.

To save civilian's ears, the U.A.C. uses a designated testing ground outside of Layla in Central Saudi Arabia. The nearby desert is the perfect place for causing massive sonic booms and firing live rounds. This is highly enjoyed by pilots, since nobody wants to fly at only mach.9 when you're in an aircraft that can leave most missiles in the dust...
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| November 12, 2010, 3:53 am
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Quoting Areetsa C
You know, I don't actually recognize Ham as Kaiser. I mean, the Kaiser-Pharaoh shoots himself in the head one day. That doesn't give a gang of neonazis in Mexico the right to come along and take charge. The rightful heir to the throne of Prussia is the nearest relative to the late Kaiser, and I don't know about the rest of ya, but if the Mexicans don't back off and let the Prussians handle their own succession, there's going to be a mess.


Maybe Ham has ties to the heir of the throne? I'm pretty sure Cliffe did what he did after the betrayal-five in RA-CAS-UEN: He and his entire nation teleported out to this group. Which he just teleported out of...
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| November 12, 2010, 4:22 am
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Quoting Awesome-o-saurus The Not-So-Great
Maybe Ham has ties to the heir of the throne? I'm pretty sure Cliffe did what he did after the betrayal-five in RA-CAS-UEN: He and his entire nation teleported out to this group. Which he just teleported out of...

If he does, I don't recognize them. Just about everyone in Europe is related to the Hapsburgs, one way or another. Doesn't mean they have a legitimate claim to the throne.

Besides, this option has a higher chance for causing a war, which you all know is half the reason I'm in this group.
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| November 12, 2010, 4:39 am
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Quoting Areetsa C
If he does, I don't recognize them. Just about everyone in Europe is related to the Hapsburgs, one way or another. Doesn't mean they have a legitimate claim to the throne.

Besides, this option has a higher chance for causing a war, which you all know is half the reason I'm in this group.


Troof, troof.

War of German Succession anyone?
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| November 12, 2010, 4:42 am
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Quoting Jack Ford
This is highly enjoyed by pilots, since nobody wants to fly at only mach.9 when you're in an aircraft that can leave most missiles in the dust...

Mach 9, or mach 0.9? Because Mach 9 sounds rather unrealistic.
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| November 12, 2010, 4:44 am
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Quoting Ham N' Biscuits
You have about 400 Russian Marines that I'd like to come back home.

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| November 12, 2010, 6:37 am
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Quoting Areetsa C
You know, I don't actually recognize Ham as Kaiser. I mean, the Kaiser-Pharaoh shoots himself in the head one day. That doesn't give a gang of neonazis in Mexico the right to come along and take charge. The rightful heir to the throne of Prussia is the nearest relative to the late Kaiser, and I don't know about the rest of ya, but if the Mexicans don't back off and let the Prussians handle their own succession, there's going to be a mess.


I am merely restoring order in the chaotic state. Prusso-Mexico is all a joke.
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| November 12, 2010, 6:57 am
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Quoting Ham N' Biscuits
I am merely restoring order in the chaotic state. Prusso-Mexico is all a joke.

Eh, nope, sounds like rampant greed to me.
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| November 12, 2010, 7:02 am
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Quoting Areetsa C
Mach 9, or mach 0.9? Because Mach 9 sounds rather unrealistic.

He said "Mach.9" Sounds like 0.9 to me. Since he told me max speed was Mach 4 tops.
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| November 12, 2010, 1:41 pm
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Quoting Areetsa C
Mach 9, or mach 0.9? Because Mach 9 sounds rather unrealistic.

Mach 0.9. It's federal law that no aircraft can exeed mach 1 in populated areas without reasonable cause, due to the sonic boom, which at certain altitudes can destroy glass structures and other fragile obstacles.
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| November 12, 2010, 2:55 pm
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India has finished development and production of a new attack helicopter to replace the P-7. It is overall about twice as large, carries a crew of two, and outguns the P-7 shamefully. It has twice the range and three times the firepower. Two massive engines give it about 1.3 times the speed of the P-7, with a little less agility. About 20 have been built and deployed to the new Phoenix-class ships. I'll post pics on Sunday.

In other news, those same two Phoenix-class carriers with full escort, and all four Abidjan-class amphibious assault ships (with full loads) have set sail for the Ivory Coast and the DRC for securing operations in the theater. They set sail yesterday.
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| November 13, 2010, 12:05 am
And.... the 747 project is now nearly done. Testing phase will begin shortly.
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| November 13, 2010, 12:25 am
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A sizeable force of U.A.C. Infantry is en-route to Indian territory along the Atlantic Coast of Africa. They've got a mission. They are being accompanied/escorted by two Interidium-class aircraft carriers and six Annialhator-class destroyers. Their intentions are not public, but are not a threat to anyone in the vicinity.

6 squadrons (squadron in U.A.C.=24 aircraft) of F-1 Blackfish pilots have completed their training with other AIO and U.A.C. divisions. They all have considerable experience flying other combat aircraft, thus the comparitavely small amount of time spent on training.

Iraq is getting descisively defeated. I would say more, but I burned my fingertips so I can only type with one hand and my other thumb, so 'tis all for now.
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| November 15, 2010, 2:40 pm
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Quoting Ham N' Biscuits
2nd warning, you have approximately 400 Russian Marines, if they are not returned, or we do not receive a reply within 24 hours then we shall take matters into our own hands.

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| November 15, 2010, 4:38 pm
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Quoting John Dawn
Quoting Ham N' Biscuits
2nd warning, you have approximately 400 Russian Marines, if they are not returned, or we do not receive a reply within 24 hours then we shall take matters into our own hands.


Acknowledged, sending over the marines ASAP.
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| November 15, 2010, 8:32 pm
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Quoting John Dawn
Quoting Ham N' Biscuits
2nd warning, you have approximately 400 Russian Marines, if they are not returned, or we do not receive a reply within 24 hours then we shall take matters into our own hands.


Acknowledged, sending over the marines ASAP.
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| November 15, 2010, 8:32 pm
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Quoting Ham N' Biscuits

Acknowledged, sending over the marines ASAP.

Good, they'll be glad to get back home to their families.
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| November 15, 2010, 9:04 pm
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War has returned to this world.
Operation Anaconda has been launched today by India and her allies. Hostilities began today with a long range air raid of 10 B-1 bombers direct from India-controlled Ivory Coast, with obligatory in-flight refueling. They came in low and proceeded to bomb any form of AA site and an airfield in Cancun. After this most unpleasant surprise, Ex-SRGL fighters took off in a desperate search for the marauding B-1s. In a stroke of luck, they managed to find a flight of two B-1s on their FLIR (as the B-1s were racing to their next targets). The fighters managed to get a radar lock, but a combination of AESA jamming and confusing terrain caused the volley to miss. The two B-1s immediately turned for home on full afterburner, and successfully evaded a single IR guided missile. The fighter pilots reported hitting at least one of the Bombers with their cannon.
While this drama occurred, the 8 remaining bombers proceeded to fly over other targets over the Yucatan peninsula, with minor damage from alerted AA guns. Once again, the Radar guided missiles could not manage a lock on the low-flying bombers.

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| November 17, 2010, 10:02 am
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YES! Success! I love high-tech! Now for phase two...
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| November 17, 2010, 10:51 pm
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The IRA is downsizing its army to only 100,000 active personnel.
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| November 17, 2010, 11:22 pm
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The PCU does not see this attack on Mexico a reasonable attack. Kicking a man while he's down?

Money will be sent to the SRGL to repair the cities hit.
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| November 17, 2010, 11:23 pm
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I am most displeased, hitting a nation during peaceful rebuilding? Germany is put on full alert for any invasion attempts.
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| November 17, 2010, 11:29 pm
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Well, actually, Mexico was one of about a dozen targets the AIO considered. We wanted to get life back in this group, and we just did.
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| November 17, 2010, 11:35 pm
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Quoting Ultramarine .
Well, actually, Mexico was one of about a dozen targets the AIO considered. We wanted to get life back in this group, and we just did.

You should've attacked me!
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| November 17, 2010, 11:41 pm
How dare you! That is just as bad as Cliffe!

Nigerian army and AF is on high alert and 40,000 troops are being dispersed over to the various borders. AA is on high alert. I'm Switzerland, Neutral. I could CM this if y'all want. I'll get some experience offa this!
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| November 17, 2010, 11:41 pm
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Quoting Ultramarine .
Well, actually, Mexico was one of about a dozen targets the AIO considered. We wanted to get life back in this group, and we just did.


So the plan is to pick on the guy who is just trying to get his economy started, correct? The guy who is trying to restore order in a fallen European state. The guy with most of his stuff destroyed previously.

Yo, Three Evilteer buddies, we've got some competition.
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| November 17, 2010, 11:42 pm
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Quoting Brikkr
How dare you! That is just as bad as Cliffe!

Umm, how, exactly?

Quoting Ham N' Biscuits

So the plan is to pick on the guy who is just trying to get his economy started, correct? The guy who is trying to restore order in a fallen European state. The guy with most of his stuff destroyed previously.

Yo, Three Evilteer buddies, we've got some competition.


I was under the impression no one cared about this group anymore.

But anyway, I'm considering this the final phase of the Great Patriotic War. Let's just say the Indian civilians are behind this one.
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| November 17, 2010, 11:43 pm
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Ultra isn't wrong in his actions. He's absolutely right. However, I don't support them because I'm an ally with both nations and likewise, I will not support offensive actions from both sides to attack the other.
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| November 17, 2010, 11:46 pm
And the 747 project has now been completed! These mobile bases of operation will serve as transport/launch facilities for Mongolain UAvs.
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| November 17, 2010, 11:49 pm
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Quoting Ultramarine .


"So be it!"
-King Arthur
"We will fight on the beaches."
-Winston Churchill
"You ain't seen nothing yet"
-The final line of the "Jazz Singer"

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| November 17, 2010, 11:50 pm
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The Eastern Roman Empire will remain neutral for now. We need to get our HAT-1s and MAF-2s going, and consolidate our new lands of Jordan, Egypt, Libya, and Tunisia. Not to mention the war in Israel.
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| November 17, 2010, 11:52 pm
Quoting Ultramarine .

Forget it, I'm being Neutral.
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| November 17, 2010, 11:57 pm
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It's been awhile since I've done this, so here goes.

Indian Sudan and DRC is digging anti-tank trenches along the borders. About 1,000 miles in both nations will be dug in about a week. Paying the locals about a dollar a day is rather good for that economy. Thousands of mines are sewing the desert with dragons' teeth. These zones are being marked on maps and local authorities are warning the general population away from these areas.

Several freighters are setting sail from India to the DRC with classified cargo, under full escort.

Since my last update, dozens of more fighters have been produced.
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| November 18, 2010, 12:10 am
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F-1 Blackfish fighters of the U.A.C. airforce's 406, 409, and 514 squadrons have returned after the Blackfish's first combat operation, as well as the first combat-use of the new AGM-220 Python III missile, which is guided by highly classified AIO technology, and in testing has proven to be the most accurate ATG missile in UAC military use. Their effectiveness will be determined in the next CR. The pilots of the said squadron are being briefed for their next mission.
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| November 18, 2010, 2:35 pm
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This is LAST NIGHT's Combat Report. I will post TONIGHTS around 9:00 PM Eastern Standard Time.

Mexico, in response to the previous night's nasty bombing runs involved maximum alert. Tonight, they also had PCU patrols on both side of Mexico. The United Arab Coalition could care less, as they launched a huge raid of 72 F-1 Blackfishes, with massive tanker support from India and the U.A.C. They decided to take an Atlantic route to their targets.

The PCU ran a patrol of 25 MAF-1s out of Cuba and French Guyana tonight. Tragically for them, the Blackfish, with their highly advanced stealth properties as well as virtually zero infared emissions, slipped by even the most vigilant watch by the 25 fighters. Weather also worked in the U.A.Cs advantage, as there was heavy cloud cover tonight, making the matte black fighters exceptionally difficult to spot visually. Airfields, roads, military bases, communication sites, and radar were all pounded by 2,000lb bombs. In terms of actual damage, the military bases and airfields were barely touched, but almost all communications sites and radar were destroyed. This is not to say the Arabian aircraft were without opposition. The second that the first bombs fell, all Mexican aircraft, and the 25 duped MAF-1s raced to the individual flights of Blackfish aircraft. The Mexican fighters, without proper support, were alternatively plucked out of the sky by AAMs or the devastating 30mm cannon. The MAF-1s cleverly waited in ambush position hugging low to the ocean, and relied on their night vision equipment to hit the retreating enemy fighters. They managed to spot one, but their missiles failed to lock on, both radar and infared. Undeterred, a flight of 4 MAF-1s chased the "lone" aircraft and attempted to hit it with its cannon. Sadly for them, the detected fighter's wingman fired off his last missile and hit one as it was trying to climb to altitude. The remaining 3 fighters quickly turned home and met no further opposition. One Blackfish was hit by AA over Mexico, and was unable to return home. The pilot ditched somewhere in the Gulf of Mexico.

An emergency beacon was activated, and PCU naval forces went to that location, only to find a transponder.

Meanwhile in the UAC, the pilots celebrated their raid, as well as their comrade's rescue.....
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| November 18, 2010, 5:18 pm
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UAC Airforce Tacticians are highly pleased with the success of their raid. Extensive training and expensive aircraft have proven themselves once again. The pilots of the raid are celebrating their success as well, after recieving various medals and awards. The pilot of the downed Blackfish has been issued a new aircraft.
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| November 18, 2010, 6:37 pm
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With this sudden attack on our friends in the Americas, the Roman Empire will be taking a defensive stance in Africa and the Middle East. Fighter patrols will be increased, along with AA emplacements and other such measures.

You're not surprising me, Jack Ford.
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| November 18, 2010, 6:48 pm
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As stated to Ham and Co., defensive tactics will be used as far as they can be seen necessary to protect Mexico, and to a lesser extent ourselves, from India and the UAC.

Seeing the Blackfish work magnificently against our fighters, pilots being trained now are receiving extra training and the Blackfishs currently being operated by the PCU will be our top priority in unlocking the secrets.
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| November 18, 2010, 7:07 pm
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Quoting Nick Shelton
As stated to Ham and Co., defensive tactics will be used as far as they can be seen necessary to protect Mexico, and to a lesser extent ourselves, from India and the UAC.

Seeing the Blackfish work magnificently against our fighters, pilots being trained now are receiving extra training and the Blackfishs currently being operated by the PCU will be our top priority in unlocking the secrets.

And not too long ago, you were trying to utterly destroy the SRGL, I helped you, too. What's up with that?
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| November 18, 2010, 7:41 pm
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Downsizing of the IRA's military has been postponed and a peace keeping task force is being assembled. Task Force Kestrel will link up with PCU units to protect Mexico.
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| November 18, 2010, 7:57 pm
Fighter patrols, AA and AT emplacements, and fortification of my borders is now commencing. All trade with the AIO is banned, in reaction of the current situation. Trade and defortification will happen once this situation has resided.
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| November 18, 2010, 8:04 pm
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Thanks to the economic recovery during the peace, India has built up her strength and is now stronger than ever. All reserves have been called up, all leaves are canceled. Effective immediately, all 1,200,000 men are on active duty. As well as all air groups and naval ports are on alert.

Quoting Brikkr
Fighter patrols, AA and AT emplacements, and fortification of my borders is now commencing. All trade with the AIO is banned, in reaction of the current situation. Trade and defortification will happen once this situation has resided.

We never had any trading...

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| November 18, 2010, 8:04 pm
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Wait, wait. How'd the PCU manage to launch sorties out of French Guiana?

Also, Ham, I'm still curious as to if you're continuing the operations in Switzerland.
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| November 18, 2010, 8:06 pm
A conflict!? I LOVE conflicts! Now, who's side to jump on?
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| November 18, 2010, 8:17 pm
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Quoting Nick Shelton
As stated to Ham and Co., defensive tactics will be used as far as they can be seen necessary to protect Mexico, and to a lesser extent ourselves, from India and the UAC.

Seeing the Blackfish work magnificently against our fighters, pilots being trained now are receiving extra training and the Blackfishs currently being operated by the PCU will be our top priority in unlocking the secrets.

You have the export version, as I stated on the MOC. It's still equally stealthy and fast, but doesn't contain all the electronic countermeasures. Only the AIO is licensed to obtain the classified electronic software.

Don't get me wrong, the export Blackfish is among the best fighter planes in the world, and certainly the fastest and most powerfull.

I don't wish to provoke unnecessary conflict with the PCU. As far as I knew, Mexico wasn't an ally of the PCU, but I see I was wrong. I will not call off the invasion though, and airstrikes will continue.
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| November 18, 2010, 8:18 pm
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Quoting John Moffatt
A conflict!? I LOVE conflicts! Now, who's side to jump on?

Ours: The winning side


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| November 18, 2010, 8:20 pm
PCU buddies gave me UAVs, so you're head would look good on the end of a pole, Jack. Who combat modding?
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| November 18, 2010, 8:20 pm
Quoting Ultramarine .
Ours: The winning side


What side is that?
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| November 18, 2010, 8:21 pm
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Quoting John Moffatt
PCU buddies gave me UAVs, so you're head would look good on the end of a pole, Jack. Who combat modding?
Matt's the combat mod.

My head looks bad enough on my shoulders, a pole might be a bit of an improvement... =]

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| November 18, 2010, 8:24 pm
Quoting Jack Ford
Quoting John Moffatt
PCU buddies gave me UAVs, so you're head would look good on the end of a pole, Jack. Who combat modding?
Matt's the combat mod.

My head looks bad enough on my shoulders, a pole might be a bit of an improvement... =]

Well spoken.

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| November 18, 2010, 8:25 pm
Quoting Ultramarine .
We never had any trading...

I meant there WILL be no trading. Just to say this clear and simple: I'm neutral. No conflict for me.
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| November 18, 2010, 8:28 pm
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Quoting John Moffatt
What side is that?

The AIO, me & Jack & company.

Oh, don't forget your friends in India that gave you your first modern fighter... And offered to give you free transport to a couple places. And has been a good neighbor.

Tell you what, I'll trade you those F-1a's of mine you have for an equivalent number of F-1c's. Twice the speed, and 7 external hardpoints vs. 5 for the F-1a. How's that sound?
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| November 18, 2010, 8:41 pm
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Quoting Ultramarine .
And not too long ago, you were trying to utterly destroy the SRGL, I helped you, too. What's up with that?

I wasn't trying to utterly destroy them. I was trying to evict someone who had their property given away.

If nobody remembers, Cliffe literally gave me Texas and SRGL. Ham and Will just didn't want to leave. I did what I had to to move them off of the land that was now mine.

You helped by sending a large amount of bombers, and we may never repay you for that because it largely helped our invasion. However, I don't think attacking a nation that just now is forming is a very, dare I say it, chivalrous thing to do.
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| November 18, 2010, 9:16 pm
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Quoting Nick Shelton

You helped by sending a large amount of bombers, and we may never repay you for that because it largely helped our invasion. However, I don't think attacking a nation that just now is forming is a very, dare I say it, chivalrous thing to do.

At least you haven't forgotten that.

And this war will not 'utterly' destroy him, he will still have Germany. This is a continuation of India's Patriotic War, where we will have final retribution upon the killer of our innocents. Nobody said it was 'not very chivalrous' when he attacked me without a declaration of war and, though he vigorously disagrees, without any real cause.

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| November 18, 2010, 9:34 pm
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Quoting Ultramarine .
Quoting Nick Shelton

You helped by sending a large amount of bombers, and we may never repay you for that because it largely helped our invasion. However, I don't think attacking a nation that just now is forming is a very, dare I say it, chivalrous thing to do.

At least you haven't forgotten that.

And this war will not 'utterly' destroy him, he will still have Germany. This is a continuation of India's Patriotic War, where we will have final retribution upon the killer of our innocents. Nobody said it was 'not very chivalrous' when he attacked me without a declaration of war and, though he vigorously disagrees, without any real cause.

Thanks for clarifying that. I didn't know this was a continuation of the Patriotic War, or I would have not interfered in the first place.

In other words, from the point on (8:47 P.M.), the PCU is ceasing combat operations against India and the UAC.
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| November 18, 2010, 9:45 pm
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Quoting Nick Shelton
Thanks for clarifying that. I didn't know this was a continuation of the Patriotic War, or I would have not interfered in the first place.

In other words, from the point on (8:47 P.M.), the PCU is ceasing combat operations against India and the UAC.

Thank you, my friend!

I was drawing up plans for an invasion of the SRGL Atlantic Northeast, but I didn't get done with the Ivory Coast before you were pretty much mopping up over there. I was looking forward to that, but that glory is yours.
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| November 18, 2010, 9:53 pm
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Quoting Ultramarine .
Quoting Nick Shelton

You helped by sending a large amount of bombers, and we may never repay you for that because it largely helped our invasion. However, I don't think attacking a nation that just now is forming is a very, dare I say it, chivalrous thing to do.

At least you haven't forgotten that.

And this war will not 'utterly' destroy him, he will still have Germany. This is a continuation of India's Patriotic War, where we will have final retribution upon the killer of our innocents. Nobody said it was 'not very chivalrous' when he attacked me without a declaration of war and, though he vigorously disagrees, without any real cause.

The man(Or men) you seek are in Germany, not Mexico. Them Mexican SRGL peeps are the guys who ended the war by seizing power and surrendering to the PCU, in exchange for Mexico.
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| November 18, 2010, 9:55 pm
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Quoting Ham N' Biscuits
The man(Or men) you seek are in Germany, not Mexico. Them Mexican SRGL peeps are the guys who ended the war by seizing power and surrendering to the PCU, in exchange for Mexico.

Ok, Mexico first, Germany next. How's that?

I'm pretty sure right now you're playing a shell game, not falling for it. I don't care about the country, as long as it has the SRGL flag over it.

*Evil grin*
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| November 18, 2010, 9:58 pm
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Quoting Ultramarine .
Ok, Mexico first, Germany next. How's that?

I'm pretty sure right now you're playing a shell game, not falling for it. I don't care about the country, as long as it has the SRGL flag over it.

*Evil grin*


With Nick no longer protecting me, I can assure you some beef is going to get grilled in the Indian sub-continent.
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| November 18, 2010, 9:59 pm
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Quoting Ham N' Biscuits

With Nick no longer protecting me, I can assure you some beef is going to get grilled in the Indian sub-continent.

Oh, are we to believe you are going to start another insurgency? Like I said before, those guys weren't too happy you left them high-and-dry (and now most of them are dead) last time around. Besides, they've found India most accommodating to them, life is comfortable for them.

I don't think Matt's going to buy that broken record...
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| November 18, 2010, 10:12 pm
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Quoting Ultramarine .
Oh, are we to believe you are going to start another insurgency? Like I said before, those guys weren't too happy you left them high-and-dry (and now most of them are dead) last time around. Besides, they've found India most accommodating to them, life is comfortable for them.

I don't think Matt's going to buy that broken record...


Because Muslims have definetly forgiven the Hindus and Sikhs for killing near a million of them way back when.

Hmm. If a small attack by me causes this much rage, what is the proportianate rage for that?
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| November 18, 2010, 10:15 pm
/Is still hiding...
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| November 18, 2010, 10:26 pm
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Quoting Ham N' Biscuits

Because Muslims have definetly forgiven the Hindus and Sikhs for killing near a million of them way back when.

Hmm. If a small attack by me causes this much rage, what is the proportianate rage for that?

Rage? Not so, logic in its stead. Not that so much as the fact that they would do it on their own, not to be conjured up like some genie out of a bottle at your behest. (Are you listening, Matt?) And how will you get them the message, much less supplies? Unlike last time, I am now on 24/7 patrols, you couldn't so much as sneeze within 1,000 km without a dozen destroyers down on you in seconds.

And you spelled 'definitely' wrong, not to pick...
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| November 18, 2010, 10:35 pm
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This looks like it could be interesting.

So, Ham DID back off from Germany, did he not?
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| November 18, 2010, 10:39 pm
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Quoting Areetsa C
This looks like it could be interesting.

So, Ham DID back off from Germany, did he not?


Like I said, I am in the process of leaving, and now I get attacked.

I feel bad for your economy Ultra. It must take alot of cash to be that tight on the mainland, own vast territories in Africa and invade across the Atlantic, while making war at any chance.

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| November 18, 2010, 10:49 pm
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Quoting Ham N' Biscuits

Like I said, I am in the process of leaving, and now I get attacked.

I feel bad for your economy Ultra. It must take alot of cash to be that tight on the mainland, own vast territories in Africa and invade across the Atlantic, while making war at any chance.

I solve that by leaving the African nations self-sufficient and only using them as labor force and base territory, without spending a cent of my money on them. I would describe the 1,000 men working in the docks in the Ivory Coast as a write-off in comparison to the benefit. I explained that all at the time...

As for my homeland, I've got billions in gold pumping into my economy from the Kolar Gold Fields; I mentioned that at the time too.
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| November 18, 2010, 11:05 pm
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Quoting Ultramarine .
I solve that by leaving the African nations self-sufficient and only using them as labor force and base territory, without spending a cent of my money on them. I would describe the 1,000 men working in the docks in the Ivory Coast as a write-off in comparison to the benefit. I explained that all at the time...

As for my homeland, I've got billions in gold pumping into my economy from the Kolar Gold Fields; I mentioned that at the time too.


Some quick research of the Kolar Gold Fields told me that it's been closed for 9 years, it yields low to extremely low quality of gold, and it would only yield about 12 tonnes if re-opened(which would require heavy investments). That's only a 12 year supply.

I think I win this round.


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| November 18, 2010, 11:11 pm
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Quoting Ham N' Biscuits

Some quick research of the Kolar Gold Fields told me that it's been closed for 9 years, it yields low to extremely low quality of gold, and it would only yield about 12 tonnes if re-opened(which would require heavy investments). That's only a 12 year supply.

I think I win this round.


I believe you loose this one, actually. I was very clear about that when I posted it. I did the same research. I said it was reopened (with the capital investment, yes) but according to estimates, it would yield about $2.5-$3.2 Billion annually.

In a little town called Cripple Creek, Colorado, where I live not far from, there is a gorge crossing called million-dollar bridge. It is thus named because years ago, when the gold rush was on, they piled tons of ore-rich rock down the gorge and out of their way. Turns out that there was millions of dollars worth of gold in those rocks that was pushed aside because, at the time, it was too expensive to separate. Nowadays, it could be done with ease. Same thing about 30 years from now, that ore could be easily retrieved.

I ask you, sir, to prove me wrong.
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| November 18, 2010, 11:25 pm
Darn, I have buddies on both sides. I always let this happen to me in Civ as well..... I rescind my previous comment regarding Jack's head for now.
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| November 18, 2010, 11:35 pm
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Quoting John Moffatt
Darn, I have buddies on both sides. I always let this happen to me in Civ as well..... I rescind my previous comment regarding Jack's head for now.

Who? Ham is your pal? The PCU has bowed out, feel free to join us!
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| November 18, 2010, 11:39 pm
Quoting Ultramarine .
Who? Ham is your pal? The PCU has bowed out, feel free to join us!

*mental note to more than breifly skim topic* Violence! It shall be done!

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| November 18, 2010, 11:43 pm
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Quoting John Moffatt
*mental note to more than breifly skim topic* Violence! It shall be done!

Yay!
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| November 18, 2010, 11:45 pm
Mind sending me a flickr mail regarding where you want me?
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| November 18, 2010, 11:50 pm
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| November 18, 2010, 11:54 pm
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The ADCC has completed its defense systems revision and all systems are now operational at full capacity. Maritime patrols have increased by a slim measure granted displaced persons may attempt to make it into the more stabilized UFE and its accompanying territories.

Aside from that, the AIFV Mk.II has gained a leap in progress after a research hiatus. The programs has been revised in a loose sense; that's to say the preliminary turret and forward chassis structure had to be edited. At any rate, we may be looking at a production model within the next few weeks.

The helicopter program has seen some timely work done as well, but still no completed model. As it stands, the research has been reduced by a smidgen granted the taxpayers wouldn't be too happy to know their dollars were going to a corpse.

Finally, an intervention force has been amassed near the Franco-Swiss border. Granted Prussia had instigated combat beforehand, we hope to right the wrong in the means of crushing any Prussian loyalists in the area. After all [rogue] enemy militants have been disbanded, Switzerland will be restored as a neutral community member.
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| November 19, 2010, 12:14 am
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Quoting Will G.
/Is still hiding...

...Best place to be when the U.A.C. bomber fleet is called out. *Evil laughter*
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| November 19, 2010, 1:11 am
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I'm guessing the 9pm CR didn't make it...

Oh, well. Mexico will still fall, it's just a question of when. I'll be playing with some new toys when I get there too.
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| November 20, 2010, 10:38 am
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Quoting Ultramarine .
I'm guessing the 9pm CR didn't make it...


Indeed. Sorry about that. I was watching my football being defeated in the semi-finals due to BS calls.

Here is is.

Mexico has strangely still not decided to organize itself, and its military is suffering accordingly.

15 JSF-1 were launched in the hopes of doing the dirty work for the bombers today. Due to Mexican radar being on high alert, they detected the aircraft once they neared the coast, and scrambled what remained of their airforce in the Yucatan peninsula. The 5 JSF-1s equipped with long range missiles fired at maximum range, and 3 missiles found their mark. Undeterred, the fanatical Mexican pilots continued on and engaged in a dogfight, and managed to take down 6 JSF-1s in a dogfight. However, only 2 3 of these were "kills" and the other 3 were aircraft crashing due to bingo fuel. The Mexicans suffered accordingly, and 10 more aircraft were lost in the dogfight.
The UAC also conducted a massive raid today, with
71 F-1 Blackfish
24 EF-1 Blackfish (ECM variant)
6 B-170 Manta Ray
32 Su-51 Fafnir air superiority fighters.

They struck the Yucatan hard once more, and since most of the Mexican air force was preoccupied with the JSF-1s, these stealthy attacks went unchecked, and the Manta Rays proved devastating with the huge bombload. Any aircraft approaching were either struck from the air by the Blackfish or the Fanfnirs.

Not a single aircraft was damaged in this raid.

Today the battering of Mexico also occurred on the West side of Mexico.

Out of the blue, three squadrons of AMF-66 stealth fighters appeared, and decimated a large portion of the SAMs, AA and aircraft in the vicinity of Cabo San Lucas. Mexican detection systems managed to pick up a large fleet of surface vessels en route to the western side of Mexico. Whatever navy they have there is being assembled for an attempt to hold off what is coming.
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| November 20, 2010, 12:38 pm
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Quoting Matt Hacker

Been there, done that. I understand, football is important.

I may have failed to provide a link or clarification, but the JSF-1 is a stealth air superiority with a slightly lower radar profile than the F-35P. I'm wondering how in the world these aircraft were intercepted successfully, let alone detected in the first place. In the future, I will clarify more carefully.
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| November 20, 2010, 2:20 pm
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Quoting Ultramarine .
Quoting Matt Hacker

Been there, done that. I understand, football is important.

I may have failed to provide a link or clarification, but the JSF-1 is a stealth air superiority with a slightly lower radar profile than the F-35P. I'm wondering how in the world these aircraft were intercepted successfully, let alone detected in the first place. In the future, I will clarify more carefully.


Aaah, well, simply put, for the role you put these fighters, they would have had to carry external ordinance. Given the small weapons bay present on the JSF-1, if you wanted to do the kind of damage, you would need more than could be carried stealthily. Dont send in air superiority fighters for the role of Wild Weasel.

I also based my decision here based on the fact that even a strike fighter like the F35 only has a very very limited heavy payload capacity. For Wild Weasel and strike missions they will typically carry weapons like the HARM externally. Still, your fighters did exceptionally well, especially given the 70 + Mexican aircraft there.

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| November 20, 2010, 5:10 pm
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Quoting Matt Hacker

Aaah, well, simply put, for the role you put these fighters, they would have had to carry external ordinance. Given the small weapons bay present on the JSF-1, if you wanted to do the kind of damage, you would need more than could be carried stealthily. Dont send in air superiority fighters for the role of Wild Weasel.

I also based my decision here based on the fact that even a strike fighter like the F35 only has a very very limited heavy payload capacity. For Wild Weasel and strike missions they will typically carry weapons like the HARM externally. Still, your fighters did exceptionally well, especially given the 70 + Mexican aircraft there.

First off, it is a strike fighter (Joint Strike Fighter 1). And that is why I differentiated between the 10 that had bombs, and the 5 that were in the fighter role. They weren't supposed to have external loads (or I would have said that, and I will from now on), they can carry 6 missiles or equivalent payloads internally. I didn't want them to be able to do the same damage as my B-1s, just hit-and-run with the roughly 1,000 kg capacity. Not much, but that's why I had them do it, because I figured they'd be safer. That reminds me; I lost fewer B-1s (one damaged to my recollection) than I did F-2s, even though the latter is 2x as fast, about 10x more maneuverable, and a couple factors of 10 or so less detectable.

Still, I didn't give exact specifics, so I accept my share of the responsibility. I will give more in the future, starting now.
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| November 20, 2010, 6:58 pm
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Quoting Ham N' Biscuits

Oh, just in case you were wanting to magically 'turn on' an insurgency in my territory, need I remind you of what modern-day terrorist group is in your own backyard that nearly has Mexico on its knees? That's right, drug cartels. I'll magically 'turn on' that one, if necessary....
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| November 20, 2010, 9:15 pm
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Quoting Ultramarine .
Oh, just in case you were wanting to magically 'turn on' an insurgency in my territory, need I remind you of what modern-day terrorist group is in your own backyard that nearly has Mexico on its knees? That's right, drug cartels. I'll magically 'turn on' that one, if necessary....


The reason we're in Mexico is because we allied with the Cartels against the PCU.

And oh, revolutions won't be necessary. You want a fight? I'll give you one.

Note:I was gone this weekend, without internet connection. I told Nick this.
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| November 21, 2010, 6:38 pm
Quoting Ham N' Biscuits

You want a fight? I'll give you one.


Can I have one too!? Please!?

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| November 21, 2010, 6:41 pm
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Quoting Ham N' Biscuits

The reason we're in Mexico is because we allied with the Cartels against the PCU.

And oh, revolutions won't be necessary. You want a fight? I'll give you one.

Note:I was gone this weekend, without internet connection. I told Nick this.

Hang on, let me use your words against you (I love doing this):

"Oh, because the cartels have suddenly decided to stop killing?"

Ok, so not exact, but I think the tone matched pretty closely...

Good sport! Let us fight this war like men!
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| November 21, 2010, 6:43 pm
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A second IRA peace keeping Task Force left from Cape Verde and is also en-route to Mexico.
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| November 22, 2010, 2:11 pm
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Quick CR just so I can get it out while I have time.
-Mexico has begun to fight back
-Mexico sent two of its 3 Virginia's to attack the fleet, and they managed to get in range to detect a multi-national Carrier Battle Group. Following orders, they got into attack position, but managed to loft only a single missile before the fleets submarine escorts (namely Type-4s, with guidance from ASW helos) fired upon and destroyed one Virginia outright, and the second was forced to flee. At the moment, two Type-4s have taken pursuit, and are working on several "Possible" contacts.
-That one missile was unable to penetrate the numerous CIWS and RAM weapons, and exploded near an escort, knocking out its air search radar.
-A U.A.C airstrike took out a large amount of Mexican positions, but clever deployment of Mexican/SRGL F22s burned through the jamming cloud and managed a quick dash with their cannon, taking down a Blackfish. The F22s fled as soon as that pass was complete, and the Blackfish chose not to pursue due to fuel constraints.
-Similar in timing to the U.A.C. attack, an Indian attack with B1s launched cruise missiles at AA targets in Mexico. The F-22s (returning to their hidden bases) detected the "Vampires" and split their number. Half fired their weapons at the missiles (killing 9) and the other half caught up with the B1s. While relatively old, the F22s nonetheless caught up with a B1, and unable to burn through the AESA jamming, frantically went on afterburner and fired its vulcan. Unfortunately, the 20mm rounds were unable to take down the B1.
-The airports in the area were the hardest hit by the X-Bombs.
-Oh, Mexican patrols managed to find an absolutely massive joint Malaysian and Indian Fleet headed for the Yucatan. The patrolling aircraft has not since responded since the report.
-Switching back toe the Pacific, both Malaysian and Australian Boomers fired volley after volley of cruise missiles at any defenses near the coast, and even inland to some degree. The detestation is extensive (to the military targets).

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| November 22, 2010, 4:47 pm
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Quoting John Dawn
A second IRA peace keeping Task Force left from Cape Verde and is also en-route to Mexico.

For what purpose? Ours or 'theirs'?
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| November 22, 2010, 8:25 pm
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Quoting Ultramarine .
For what purpose? Ours or 'theirs'?

So that innocents aren't harmed.
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| November 22, 2010, 8:27 pm
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Quoting John Dawn
So that innocents aren't harmed.

I can give you my personal assurance of that. Humanitarian reasons aside, weapons of war are rather expensive. And therefore, would be better used against targets that will further my military purposes than squandered on 'useless' targets.

You have no need to interfere, but I can tell you that we will not back down if we are to face each other.
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| November 22, 2010, 9:10 pm
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Quoting Ultramarine .
I can give you my personal assurance of that. Humanitarian reasons aside, weapons of war are rather expensive. And therefore, would be better used against targets that will further my military purposes than squandered on 'useless' targets.

You have no need to interfere, but I can tell you that we will not back down if we are to face each other.
war is he||, I'm intervening for the sake of the people of Mexico, not their leaders.

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| November 22, 2010, 9:13 pm
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Quoting Matt Hacker
-Oh, Mexican patrols managed to find an absolutely massive joint Malaysian and Indian Fleet headed for the Yucatan. The patrolling aircraft has not since responded since the report.

I forgot to mention before, but a small percentage of the ships in the said fleet are U.A.C. including a few of our new Annilhator-Class Trimarans and carriers.
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| November 22, 2010, 9:16 pm
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Quoting John Dawn
war is he||, I'm intervening for the sake of the people of Mexico, not their leaders.

So do you intend to engage us?
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| November 22, 2010, 9:25 pm
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Quoting Ultramarine .
So do you intend to engage us?


It's humanitarian aid...
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| November 22, 2010, 9:26 pm
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Quoting Ham N' Biscuits

It's humanitarian aid...

Is that a 'yes' or 'no'?
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| November 22, 2010, 9:27 pm
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Quoting Ultramarine .
Is that a 'yes' or 'no'?


Objection sustained. May the witness be directed to give a direct answer to the councilor's question.
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| November 22, 2010, 9:30 pm
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Quoting Ultramarine .
Is that a 'yes' or 'no'?

Should be a no, unless fired upon then all he|| will break loose. Not a threat just sayin.
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| November 22, 2010, 9:32 pm
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Quoting Awesome-o-saurus The Not-So-Great

Objection sustained. May the witness be directed to give a direct answer to the councilor's question.

Thank you, your Honor.

Quoting John Dawn
Should be a no, unless fired upon then all he|| will break loose. Not a threat just sayin.

Scenario:

AIO attacks SRGL-held town, your guys are there.

What happens?
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| November 22, 2010, 9:37 pm
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Quoting John Dawn
A second IRA peace keeping Task Force left from Cape Verde and is also en-route to Mexico.

The U.A.C. would like to request that you communicate your position adequately with the U.A.C. Military. (You don't really have to tell me all the time via the conversation forum, but agree to the terms) This serves two purposes, one so we don't accidentally shoot you, mistaking your ships for Mexican Ships, (or shoot a building that had your guys in it,) and two, it proves that you are indeed only out for the good of the Mexican people and have no hostile intentions. We WILL NOT fire upon your ships provided they do this, but if you refuse to communicate, we will take matters into our own hands. (Not meaning that we'll shoot, but rather that we'll carefully monitor you and treat you as potentially hostile.)

Don't take this whole thing personally, I don't intend any hostility, but I like to be over-cautious in war... >.>
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| November 22, 2010, 9:38 pm
So the PCU is gone right?
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| November 22, 2010, 9:44 pm
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Quoting Jack Ford
Don't take this whole thing personally, I don't intend any hostility, but I like to be over-cautious in war... >.>

I'm ready if he tries anything, I'm not going to be blind-sided...

Quoting Will G.
So the PCU is gone right?

No, it's just not fighting in this war.
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| November 22, 2010, 9:48 pm
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Quoting Ultramarine .
Thank you, your Honor.

Quoting John Dawn
Should be a no, unless fired upon then all he|| will break loose. Not a threat just sayin.

Scenario:

AIO attacks SRGL-held town, your guys are there.

What happens?

With proper communication that wont happen.
The Task forces are not going to be in hiding.
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| November 22, 2010, 9:48 pm
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Quoting Jack Ford
The U.A.C. would like to request that you communicate your position adequately with the U.A.C. Military. (You don't really have to tell me all the time via the conversation forum, but agree to the terms) This serves two purposes, one so we don't accidentally shoot you, mistaking your ships for Mexican Ships, (or shoot a building that had your guys in it,) and two, it proves that you are indeed only out for the good of the Mexican people and have no hostile intentions. We WILL NOT fire upon your ships provided they do this, but if you refuse to communicate, we will take matters into our own hands. (Not meaning that we'll shoot, but rather that we'll carefully monitor you and treat you as potentially hostile.)

Don't take this whole thing personally, I don't intend any hostility, but I like to be over-cautious in war... >.>
Agreed.

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| November 22, 2010, 9:49 pm
Quoting Jack Ford
Mach 0.9. It's federal law that no aircraft can exeed mach 1 in populated areas without reasonable cause, due to the sonic boom, which at certain altitudes can destroy glass structures and other fragile obstacles.

Luckily there's a thing called quite spikes that help minimize the boom.
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| November 22, 2010, 10:00 pm
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Quoting Jake H.
Luckily there's a thing called quite spikes that help minimize the boom.

Yes, but for the time and money to install them just to take them off again every time they're sent to combat, it's not worth the bother. We'll just make loud noises... >.>
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| November 23, 2010, 1:38 am
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Quoting Will G.
So the PCU is gone right?

Far from it! The PCU is one of 21st Century World's largest nations. They're just not fighting us anymore.
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| November 23, 2010, 1:40 am
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Quoting John Dawn
Agreed.

Then you'd better turn around now. I, at least, will not be making my strategy known to you because you'll just turn around and tell Ham. Plus, there won't be anyplace we won't end up by the time this is all over, so you'll just be going home if you don't end up fighting us anyway.

Why don't you just not waste the time and go home? What's the purpose of 'peacekeeping' anyway when we'll be conquering the whole thing?
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| November 23, 2010, 11:34 am
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Quoting Ultramarine .
Then you'd better turn around now. I, at least, will not be making my strategy known to you because you'll just turn around and tell Ham. Plus, there won't be anyplace we won't end up by the time this is all over, so you'll just be going home if you don't end up fighting us anyway.

Why don't you just not waste the time and go home? What's the purpose of 'peacekeeping' anyway when we'll be conquering the whole thing?
We are there so when The SRGL loyal troops are eliminated Mexico can get a stable government of their own, under the control of no one but themselves, India has no other need to be there, unless this "Patriotic war" is just a ploy to conquer more land? In which case I don't think anyone's people would like their deaths to be used like that.

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| November 23, 2010, 3:35 pm
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Quoting John Dawn
unless this "Patriotic war" is just a ploy to conquer more land?


Don't be daft, of course that's what it is. Russia's Great Patriotic War (WWII) also got them more land, and got their puppet states more land too.
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| November 23, 2010, 3:38 pm
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Quoting John Dawn
We are there so when The SRGL loyal troops are eliminated Mexico can get a stable government of their own, under the control of no one but themselves, India has no other need to be there, unless this "Patriotic war" is just a ploy to conquer more land? In which case I don't think anyone's people would like their deaths to be used like that.

So why don't you wait until we're gone?
I don't know what the rest of the AIO has in store for Mexico when we're finished. But what's to say your 'peacekeeping' isn't a 'ploy' to take advantage of Mexico's weakness and a landgrab?
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| November 23, 2010, 4:35 pm
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Quoting Ultramarine .
So why don't you wait until we're gone?
I don't know what the rest of the AIO has in store for Mexico when we're finished. But what's to say your 'peacekeeping' isn't a 'ploy' to take advantage of Mexico's weakness and a landgrab?
Because I was one of the first to say that people should stay in there own hemispheres.

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| November 23, 2010, 5:03 pm
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Quoting John Dawn
Because I was one of the first to say that people should stay in there own hemispheres.

And how many people have possessions in both hemispheres? Many.

How does it make you look that you are crossing hemispherical lines to 'peacekeep' for a nation that has possessions in both hemispheres?
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| November 23, 2010, 5:46 pm
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Quoting Ultramarine .
And how many people have possessions in both hemispheres? Many.

How does it make you look that you are crossing hemispherical lines to 'peacekeep' for a nation that has possessions in both hemispheres?


Is there a problem with you understanding I'm giving Germany back to Germans?
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| November 23, 2010, 6:01 pm
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Quoting Ham N' Biscuits

Is there a problem with you understanding I'm giving Germany back to Germans?

What? I thought the people responsible for the attack on India were in Germany...

Or has that changed again?
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| November 23, 2010, 6:09 pm
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Quoting John Dawn
Quoting Ultramarine .
Then you'd better turn around now. I, at least, will not be making my strategy known to you because you'll just turn around and tell Ham. Plus, there won't be anyplace we won't end up by the time this is all over, so you'll just be going home if you don't end up fighting us anyway.

Why don't you just not waste the time and go home? What's the purpose of 'peacekeeping' anyway when we'll be conquering the whole thing?
We are there so when The SRGL loyal troops are eliminated Mexico can get a stable government of their own, under the control of no one but themselves, India has no other need to be there, unless this "Patriotic war" is just a ploy to conquer more land? In which case I don't think anyone's people would like their deaths to be used like that.

I don't believe that sending a peace corps to help stabilize government is a good plan right now. I would suggest if you were to do that, doing that AFTER the bombs fall. It saves you many casualties. Mexico is a very strategic spot. If we (the AIO) take it and stabilize it ourselves, we would have invaluable access to both the Atlantic and the Pacific, which would greatly increase our effectiveness in trade and military efficiency. We (I should say "I") don't intend to excersize military dictatorship over Mexico, but allow it to continue in a peacefull and relatively self-sufficient state, protected and minimally occupied by AIO armed forces stationed there.
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| November 23, 2010, 7:56 pm
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Quoting Ultramarine .
And how many people have possessions in both hemispheres? Many.


Erik and Evan.

Gee, that sure is many.
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| November 23, 2010, 8:08 pm
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Quoting Awesome-o-saurus The Not-So-Great

Erik and Evan.

Gee, that sure is many.

It used to be Ham (still is with Germany though he seems to be giving that up) until I took it away. Nick also controls territory in two hemispheres since the Aleutians stretch over the IDL. That makes four, which is at least several.

That is if you define hemispheres as only east and west, excluding north & south. Then several more cross that line.
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| November 23, 2010, 8:17 pm
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Quoting Jack Ford
I don't believe that sending a peace corps to help stabilize government is a good plan right now. I would suggest if you were to do that, doing that AFTER the bombs fall. It saves you many casualties. Mexico is a very strategic spot. If we (the AIO) take it and stabilize it ourselves, we would have invaluable access to both the Atlantic and the Pacific, which would greatly increase our effectiveness in trade and military efficiency. We (I should say "I") don't intend to excersize military dictatorship over Mexico, but allow it to continue in a peacefull and relatively self-sufficient state, protected and minimally occupied by AIO armed forces stationed there.
The AIO does not need a presence in Mexico, at all.

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| November 23, 2010, 8:17 pm
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Quoting John Dawn
The AIO does not need a presence in Mexico, at all.

Who are you to say? Could we then on the same magical power arbitrarily decide you have no need of a presence in Africa?
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| November 23, 2010, 8:19 pm
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Quoting Ultramarine .
Who are you to say? Could we then on the same magical power arbitrarily decide you have no need of a presence in Africa?
Okay, then neither do you. :P

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| November 23, 2010, 8:26 pm
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Quoting Awesome-o-saurus The Not-So-Great

Erik and Evan.

Gee, that sure is many.


But wait! Nick has tiny islands inhabited by literally no one, from which you can see Russia!

By the way, some good you do to the Mexican people. They sure are going to absolutely love you after this blitz.
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| November 23, 2010, 8:30 pm
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Quoting Evan Melick
Okay, so been sick and out for a bit. Would love to get maps up tonight.

1) What's going on with Germany?
2) What do the fronts/situation look like in Mexico?
3) Any other major border changes since the slicing up of Cliffe's land?


1) Germany is in the process of repairing it's government
2) No gringo boots are on the ground in Mexico. You can tell because the sand isn't red.
3) Nope.
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| November 23, 2010, 8:55 pm
I'll join India, and hand over full control of my armed forces in return for India's African territories.
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| November 23, 2010, 9:15 pm
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Quoting Thomas N
We're not landing yet, we're simply killing your navy and air force until you no longer have any power projection ability, then once we attack on land, you can collapse on yourself.


Aye, do what you wish. I look forward for an honorable fight soon.
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| November 23, 2010, 9:20 pm
Quoting Thomas N
Quoting Jake H.
I'll join India, and hand over full control of my armed forces in return for India's African territories.

This makes sense, India makes your country a part of his own, giving you full (and African) jurisdiction over his territories in Africa, while he gets that many more troops.
That way, with Algeria in jurisdiction over Indian Africa, and Algeria a part of India itself, India gains loyal fighters, you gain land, and there is no more controversy.

I should of worded that differently...
I'll give India full control of my armed forces until the end of the Mexican-Indian conflict, in return for India's African territories.
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| November 23, 2010, 9:23 pm
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Quoting Jake H.
I'll join India, and hand over full control of my armed forces in return for India's African territories.

Wow...

This actually is a good idea. I was nervous with controlling so much of Africa as it is. One thing though, may I maintain the Ivory Coast? It looked cool on the map, but you are welcome to the Sudan and the DRC. I look forward to having your 'toys' to play around with, they are very awesome. Have your men report to Abidjan, I'll load them up there.

Oh, there are extensive defensive works in progress in the northern parts of Sudan, just in case the purple people decided to do anything, but they're all yours now!
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| November 23, 2010, 9:27 pm
Mongolian forces are beginning a mass mobilization for..... nothing in particular. Gobi airfields are to be running at full capacity by the end of the week, while soldiers are being recalled from front lines for re-location. Armored divisions are being prepared for deployment on a moments notice.
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| November 23, 2010, 9:42 pm
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Quoting John Dawn
Quoting Jack Ford
I don't believe that sending a peace corps to help stabilize government is a good plan right now. I would suggest if you were to do that, doing that AFTER the bombs fall. It saves you many casualties. Mexico is a very strategic spot. If we (the AIO) take it and stabilize it ourselves, we would have invaluable access to both the Atlantic and the Pacific, which would greatly increase our effectiveness in trade and military efficiency. We (I should say "I") don't intend to excersize military dictatorship over Mexico, but allow it to continue in a peacefull and relatively self-sufficient state, protected and minimally occupied by AIO armed forces stationed there.
The AIO does not need a presence in Mexico, at all.

I view that as I highly ridiculous statement. Please explain your reasoning.
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| November 23, 2010, 10:51 pm
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I dont really have an excuse to why no CR tonight. I guess im "taking the night off" from reading through like 10 FMs. I hope you guys understand.

The Finnish government has contracted Bofors to design a next-gen air search radar/ SAM system. The primary goal is to design a system to coutner stealth. The continuation or termination of the project depends if a fesable system can be developed within a month.
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| November 23, 2010, 11:04 pm
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Quoting Matt Hacker
I guess im "taking the night off" from reading through like 10 FMs. I hope you guys understand.

Yeah, that'd be my fault...
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| November 23, 2010, 11:08 pm
Quoting Ultramarine .
Wow...

This actually is a good idea. I was nervous with controlling so much of Africa as it is. One thing though, may I maintain the Ivory Coast? It looked cool on the map, but you are welcome to the Sudan and the DRC. I look forward to having your 'toys' to play around with, they are very awesome. Have your men report to Abidjan, I'll load them up there.

Oh, there are extensive defensive works in progress in the northern parts of Sudan, just in case the purple people decided to do anything, but they're all yours now!

I'd actually forgotten you have THAT much of Africa...
I'm fine with it, if you are. We have a deal then?
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| November 23, 2010, 11:34 pm
Quoting Thomas N
Ah, I misunderstood, however, if you would like to join the AIO as your own country, now with the added African territory, you may take it up with us.

Believe me, the benefits are substantial.

Orly?
That would be great if I could get in.
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| November 23, 2010, 11:36 pm
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Quoting Jake H.
Orly?
That would be great if I could get in.

We welcome you in! We can discuss the other further in Flickr.
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| November 23, 2010, 11:39 pm
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Im not going to lie, writing this was....painful, to say the least :S

Due to the multitude of FMs, I may have missed some things, or misunderstood them. I wont be doing things chronologically, I will do it for each individual plans, to make this easier.

Malaysia- The past few days, the Malaysians have been busy in their ASW work against the Virginias, and it paid off. The fleeing Virginia was eventually picked off after being boxed in by a swarm of air-based ASW weapons. Two submarines launched cruise missiles at major shipping ports near Cabo San Lucas, and several unprotected merchant vessels were destroyed by said submarines. Air Based ASMs also came into effect. A flight of 10 C-130s flew out today, on a trans-Atlantic voyage.

Oceania- Continued to launch missiles at military installations on the Pacific Side, and also engaged in heavy ASW work. Despite all their work, they could not find a single sub, but nothing was hit either. Using ICBM silos, Oceania targeted ships, aircraft, and dry docks in Guyana, to devastating effect. Several (5) F22s stationed there were destroyed, and a few smallish warships there were hit and destroyed. The port facilities have been rendered inoperable. Back on the Pacific side, heavy CAP managed to keep Mexican eyes off of the battle fleet which is known to be there. A flight of 12 OC-F/A-117Us made a long trans-Pacific flight during the night and hit further base installations on the Baja Peninsula, to useful extent. They also managed to identify targets for future raids/ missile strikes.

U.A.C- Focused heavily on exterminating the F22s out of Guyana today. With a healthy mixture of jammers to fighters, as well as using clever tactics, they were able to lure out the F22s, and using superior aircraft specs, destroyed a confirmed 6 aircraft to no loss (if one demands an explanation, I will give it). The Su-51s and F/A 38 performed excellently in the diving aspect of their ambushes. Many Blackfish as well as Su-51s simultaneously destroyed pretty much the last defenses near Cancun, this includes AT, SAM, AAA, and other fortified positions. Oh, some more Manta Rays came in and continued terrorizing the Mexican defenses.

India- Like the U.A.C, initially focused heavily on exterminating the F-22s. Again, clever ambushes, as well as excellent and well proven air combat tactics, allowed an entire flight of Raptors to be downed with only one damaged craft. Due to the Caribbean fleet being closer, it was able to survive, and all aircraft enjoyed a healthy time to perform their duties.

JOINT OPERATIONS

Pacific Side- Indian Commandos were dropped onto the Baja peninsula during the chaos of the Missile/ Stealth bomber bombardments in the area, and quickly seized control of an airport suitable for military operations. With this, the Malaysian C-130s were given the clearance to land, and with extremely large amounts of fighter escort (which proceded to destroy several Mexican fighters) managed to land their full load of 400 troops and equipment there. Localized Mexican counterattacks have proved ineffective. The Oceanian fleet is nearby to provide heavy fire support.

Cancun- Simultaneously, with the said heavy U.A.C. and Indian fighter support, including many CAS aircraft, 45 heavy transporters loaded with an entire division of Indian spec ops forces parachuted into a war-torn Cancun. Hidden infantry opened up on individual squads, and fierce fighting commenced throughout the city, but it was less severe than anticipated due to almost all Mexican heavy machinery being destroyed beforehand. The spec ops pushed to a beach (while simultaneously assaulting and eventually taking an airport), and managed to clear hostiles, leading for the main Indian Marine operation to begin. Indian heavy armor began to flow onto the Yucatan Peninsula allowing for better fire support for the spec ops. A large beachhead has been secured at this time, and any Mexican aircraft attempting to assist are heavily jammed, then destroyed before getting within 40 miles of the city.

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| November 24, 2010, 6:15 pm
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Quoting Matt Hacker


Way to completely ignore my entire plan. Nick, I think the are well within 1000 km now.
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| November 24, 2010, 6:36 pm
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Quoting Ham N' Biscuits

Way to completely ignore my entire plan. Nick, I think the are well within 1000 km now.


I like that you quoted my entire thing. Oh, and next time dont wait like 3 days to get me plans >.> Just because I procrastinate doesnt mean that you should always send in new ones or revise them like a thousand time *coughultracough*
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| November 24, 2010, 6:44 pm
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Quoting Matt Hacker

I like that you quoted my entire thing. Oh, and next time dont wait like 3 days to get me plans >.> Just because I procrastinate doesnt mean that you should always send in new ones or revise them like a thousand time *coughultracough*


I sure do hope you at least put in the part that's completely isolated from the front.
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| November 24, 2010, 6:52 pm
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Things are heating up here... I'm going to continue fortifying my borders with AA and artillery, and shift some troops around. Another 300,000 will be withdrawn from the Danube border and go to who knows where. Factories, churn out ye missile boats and tanks. Troops, dig your trenches. It's time to hunker.
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| November 24, 2010, 6:53 pm
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Quoting Matt Hacker
Just because I procrastinate doesnt mean that you should always send in new ones or revise them like a thousand time *coughultracough*

I know, I know. Won't happen again...

On that note though, how in the world did any of my men end up on the Pacific side of the Baja peninsula? I gotta train those cargo haulers better navigation skills...
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| November 24, 2010, 11:10 pm
Could someone send me an invite to AIO?
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| November 24, 2010, 11:26 pm
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Quoting Jake H.
Could someone send me an invite to AIO?

Done and done.
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| November 24, 2010, 11:29 pm
Quoting Ultramarine .
Done and done.

danke

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| November 24, 2010, 11:37 pm
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I'm filing a complaint, for Matt can't even put in a small adjustment adding my antics. It wouldn't even affect the front.
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| November 25, 2010, 12:12 am
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Quoting Ham N' Biscuits
I'm filing a complaint, for Matt can't even put in a small adjustment adding my antics. It wouldn't even affect the front.


A Happy Thanksgiving to you too. You know what? Fine. Mexican Ohio Class boomers launched cruise missiles at Abidjan, where Algerian forces were mustering. The forces took heavy damage, and as the majority of the fleet was away, practically no ASW assets were in the area.

And Mexican aircraft seem to be retreating.
Happy?


Wait, that would be a victory. Go ahead, complain away. Maybe you dont realize how pissed off I was that you decide to add your stuff literally 2 days late and at the same time that I was typing. Next time that a war breaks out with 4 nations involved, I hope you find it easy to do.

EDIT: Why exactly couldn't I have added it tomorrow? By your own admittance "It wouldn't even affect the front."
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| November 25, 2010, 12:36 am
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Now I'm mildly tempted to complain. Not only have I not mentioned to Matt what exactly is in Abidjan, do you know how long it would take the Algerians to get there? They aren't there, and no one can say they are. I'm not trying to play a shell game, but they honestly aren't there yet. And (I'm not trying to beat up on you, Matt) Matt can't say they are just because you want them to be there.

The Algerians have been turned over to my command, and I quite frankly haven't figured out just what I'm going to do with them; so I've issued no orders. And while my first standing order was "Report to Abidjan" I didn't say when. I have not said as much to Matt (which only he can confirm). And with such short time to elapse, if I had said "They're already there" that would cause a flurry of "HOLY...How did they all get there so fast?!?!" So nice try, Ham...

Plus, if anyone bothered to read the past ICFs, they would see that I have a permanent fleet stationed there consisting of several subs, a stealth cruiser and at least 5 destroyers; not to mention a rather sizable air force. You did cause damage, Ham, but you seriously need to replace your intelligence man with someone competent enough to do his job.
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| November 25, 2010, 8:01 pm
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Happy Thanksgiving, everyone! A little late in the day, but heartfelt nonetheless!

On to business:
India has halted production of the A-2 in favor of the Su-225 (retroactive to a month ago).

As a private venture, an aircraft company has produced a rather interesting craft based entirely off a condensed Mig-17 airframe. It was turned down by the IAF as too slow (topping out at Mach 1.8 level). The Ivory Coast has eyed the handsome little machine as fulfilling their requirements for speed, agility, and strength. It doesn't hurt that they are rather inexpensive. It is the first fighter to be manufactured specially for a foreign legion.
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| November 25, 2010, 8:20 pm
Quoting Matt Hacker

A Happy Thanksgiving to you too. You know what? Fine. Mexican Ohio Class boomers launched cruise missiles at Abidjan, where Algerian forces were mustering. The forces took heavy damage, and as the majority of the fleet was away, practically no ASW assets were in the area. "

um...
http://www.flickr.com/photos/jake_h/5151861703/
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| November 25, 2010, 8:27 pm
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I give up. Honestly, I do. I cannot hope to please everyone so I wont even try from now on. If i miss a part of your plan, oh well. I'm getting fed up by this cr@p.
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| November 25, 2010, 9:02 pm
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Good job Ham and Ultra, whining about one tiny flaw. Mistakes happen. Now you lost the one adept Combat Mod, because you can't live with a mistake.

/applause.
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| November 25, 2010, 9:08 pm
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Quoting Nick Shelton
Good job Ham and Ultra, whining about one tiny flaw. Mistakes happen. Now you lost the one adept Combat Mod, because you can't live with a mistake.

/applause.

I was grousing against Ham, not against Matt. I took quite a beating over the African war from both sides, so I above all am sensitive about that.

Mistakes are costly in war, and some can be rather strategically significant (Like Ham being able to launch sub-borne missiles against a target that didn't exist, when the night before I reinstated ASW patrols in the area. Apparently, with a fleet I didn't have...).

I don't recall anyone standing up for me when someone railed against me for forgetting Cliffe's 20 uberawesome fighter squadrons. No one 'lived' with that mistake. In fact, several ganged up on me and chided me for ignoring something that could have changed the face of the war! Did I quit? No.
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| November 26, 2010, 12:00 pm
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Perhaps it would be less stressful for the CM if we were to only expect a CR every three days. That would give them more time to process the information correctly, and a little more time on our side to plan it out and word it in an understandable format.

Does anyone else think that's a bad/good idea?
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| November 26, 2010, 2:23 pm
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Quoting Jack Ford
Perhaps it would be less stressful for the CM if we were to only expect a CR every three days. That would give them more time to process the information correctly, and a little more time on our side to plan it out and word it in an understandable format.

Does anyone else think that's a bad/good idea?


Seconded.

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| November 26, 2010, 3:22 pm
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Quoting Ham N' Biscuits

Seconded.

Thirded. I've been fine with the frequency of the CRs didn't bother me.
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| November 26, 2010, 3:41 pm
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I probably wouldn't notice any changes to the frequency of mod posts, myself.
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| November 26, 2010, 4:53 pm
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Quoting Areetsa C
I probably wouldn't notice any changes to the frequency of mod posts, myself.

Are you a good CM? We're in the market...
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| November 27, 2010, 12:15 am
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Quoting Ultramarine .
Are you a good CM? We're in the market...

I have no idea.
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| November 27, 2010, 12:52 am
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Quoting Areetsa C
I have no idea.

Wanna try?
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| November 27, 2010, 12:59 am
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Quoting Areetsa C
I have no idea.


I suggest declining. Being the CM is terrible.
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| November 27, 2010, 1:09 am
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Quoting Ultramarine .
Wanna try?

May as well, at some point.

Quoting Matt Hacker
I suggest declining. Being the CM is t3rr!bl3.

Not when you know the ancient Asian art of Not-Listening-Fu.
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| November 27, 2010, 1:13 am
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Quoting Areetsa C
Not when you know the ancient Asian art of Not-Listening-Fu.


Expect lots of whining. GLHF.
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| November 27, 2010, 1:14 am
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Quoting Matt Hacker

Expect lots of whining. GLHF.

I tried not to 'whine,' I brought mistakes to your attention. With considerable distress on a couple occasions, but I was at all times more than sympathetic to your situation, even dropping concerns outright.

And just so we are perfectly clear, my last public /ragequit was directed at Ham, and indirectly in your defense.
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| November 27, 2010, 1:25 am
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Quoting Areetsa C
May as well, at some point.

Shall we send you FMs then? Or would someone else like to do it?
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| November 27, 2010, 11:51 pm
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So, if no one steps up, can I just mod the thing myself? It would be easier that way...
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| December 2, 2010, 9:06 pm
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Quoting Ultramarine .
So, if no one steps up, can I just mod the thing myself? It would be easier that way...


Many reasons why that won't work out, because you won't lose. I've still got a few tricks up my sleeve.
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| December 2, 2010, 9:27 pm
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Quoting Ham N' Biscuits

Many reasons why that won't work out, because you won't lose. I've still got a few tricks up my sleeve.

Well, not only is that rather immaterial, but if the CM does his job right, I've thought of pretty much everything you could do.
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| December 2, 2010, 9:31 pm
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Quoting Ultramarine .
Well, not only is that rather immaterial, but if the CM does his job right, I've thought of pretty much everything you could do.


How can you be so sure what my tricks could possibly be if I don't tell what they are?
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| December 2, 2010, 9:51 pm
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Quoting Ham N' Biscuits

How can you be so sure what my tricks could possibly be if I don't tell what they are?

I'm a good general. And I don't have to know specifics, but I've anticipated pretty much any mode in which you could deliver attacks. So, I'm covered.
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| December 2, 2010, 10:02 pm
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Quoting Ultramarine .
I'm a good general. And I don't have to know specifics, but I've anticipated pretty much any mode in which you could deliver attacks. So, I'm covered.


My tricks, you will find, are quite unexpectable. Borderline Unorthodox.
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| December 2, 2010, 10:04 pm
I'll mod.
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| December 2, 2010, 10:09 pm
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Quoting Ham N' Biscuits

My tricks, you will find, are quite unexpectable. Borderline Unorthodox.

I don't shy away from nukes, if you try a "Operation Low Blow," well couple things. One, UAVs can't get that far. Two, your naval vessels that would launch them would be detected by my fleets.

Because, contrary to past mistakes, I do have a fleet there, and they WERE on patrol the night before the report came out. So when the next CM comes along, I'm contesting your last actions in the Ivory Coast.
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| December 2, 2010, 10:10 pm
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Quoting Jake H.
I'll mod.

Got any experience? Just asking.

Edit: You can't, technically you're part of the AIO.
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| December 2, 2010, 10:13 pm
Quoting Ultramarine .
Got any experience? Just asking.

Edit: You can't, technically you're part of the AIO.

I can. I want experience :P
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| December 2, 2010, 10:44 pm
Quoting Ultramarine .
"Operation Low Blow,"

Yay! *idea* Hmmmmm.....
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| December 2, 2010, 10:52 pm
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