MOCpages : Share your LEGO® creations
LEGO models my own creation MOCpages toys shop Diplomats and LegionsMilitary
Welcome to the world's greatest LEGO fan community!
Explore cool creations, share your own, and have lots of fun together.  ~  It's all free!
Conversation »
International Conversation Forum III
 Group admin 
Here we are, number 3.

-Everyone is super-expanding.

Permalink
| November 21, 2010, 12:41 pm
In The Commonwealth...

A very generous offer has been made to Jamaica to join the Commonwealth. They are also being offered a seat in the Commonwealth's united congress, and they seem to be very interested. BAE has been contracted to design a new SAM combined with a radar system that can detect many of the most modern stealth capabilities. Production of the additional F-35 As has begun and production of the F-35 Bs will commence as soon as the F-35 As are complete. They will replace all of the Tornadoes and Harriers used by the RAF. So far we have been able to complete 10 fighters and it is predicted that they should be completed by mid-January. Finally there will be an air squadron of 5 F-35 As and 20 Eurofighter Typhoons, and 2 companies of soldiers that will be sent to the British Virgin Islands. One of those being a company of tankers armed with the new upgraded Challenger 2. The other company being an infantry company. There will also be a platoon of AA, and they will be equipped with manpads, the Rapier Missile system, and advanced Radar
Permalink
| November 21, 2010, 1:24 pm
In Brazil:
-Plans are being made to revive the old Osσrio Tanks and they will be upgraded with new armor and a 140mm main gun.
-The plans for a highway going through the Amazon to south Brazil have been accepted, and will start construction soon.
In Costa Rica:
-Two tank divisions and a squadron will be positioned there, in wake of the invasion o Mexico.
In Panama:
-Propositions to upgrade the canal have been approved and construction will start early in December.
Permalink
| November 21, 2010, 2:00 pm
Quoting Evan Melick
So you have the Republic of Panama completely occupied (for the map)?

Also, only two prototype Osσrio's were ever produced, so you'll need to retool factories and produce 'em from scratch.

Yes, I completely have Panama, Its officially part of Brazilian Territory now.
And about the Osσrio's, It'll all come in time my friend, all in time.
/evil laugh
Permalink
| November 21, 2010, 4:10 pm
The first troops landed yesterday in Caracas and Puerto Cabello, but only after a pounding from the CSS Air Force.

The Venezuelans saw us coming though, losses are expected to be moderate for us, most likely in 100's. Our helicopters and M-36 Bobcat's made quick work of quite a bit of their coastal defense systems. Paratroopers also secured a few miles past the coastline and are experiencing heavy resistance from paramilitary forces. Our forces on the beaches are having a little trouble dealing with the newer Russian equipment they have, but we expect to slowly and steadily push through.

An agreement was also made with Brazil so that no hostilities will occur. What will happen is that I will get all military equipment and will receive 14% of the oil produced a year, while he gets the land and the other 86% percent of the oil.

We will both work together to install a democracy and improve the infrastructure of the soon to be Brazilian territory.
Permalink
| November 21, 2010, 4:24 pm
The Union:

- started building a prototype submarine to replace all subs. Might be finished in late 2038
- having had influence over Timor in the past, have decided to make a deal with Timor to use their oil deposits in exchanged for highly improved medical and other facilities.

Oh, and Matt P., I don't think it's a good idea to invade Madagascar as it is too close to mainland Africa, and they might feel provoked to invade Australia. I say this purely out of of concern. Maybe wait, invade isolated countries, until you're powerful enough to take Africa. At the moment I have little interest in Africa myself.
Permalink
| November 21, 2010, 4:34 pm
Venezuela:
Seeing that the Confederates have landed in Caracas, the Navy has been sent over yonder to assist with their invasions. Two Squadrons of F-2s, launched by carrier made easy work of some of the AA before they had to return once the RWRs started beeping. (Radar Warning Recievers)
Back in the South the Brazilian Army made a quick push into the jungle from Santa Elena. While their Artillry did help they fell under heavy resistance by Guerillas. Venezuela is turining into Vietnam. C-130s armed with experimental bombs are going to use them later today. More information when the time comes.
Permalink
| November 21, 2010, 4:50 pm
 Group moderator 
Quoting Evan Melick

I (Western Confederation) now control Utah, N&S Dakota, Minnesota in addition to my original holdings.

Thank you.
Permalink
| November 21, 2010, 6:55 pm
 Group moderator 
Quoting Evan Melick
I'm going to try and get a map up today.


No problem. Would it be easier for you if I upload what I currently have taken to Flickr, rather than make a big list?
Permalink
| November 21, 2010, 7:11 pm
The convoy delivering the carrier left yesterday, and is expected to near Florida later tonight. Mid-Monday it should arrive in Texas, and the training seminars shall start Tuesday.

If you'll excuse me, I'll be anxiously awaiting the Futurama special.
Permalink
| November 21, 2010, 7:20 pm
With Delta force teams taking their remaining Generals hostage and air strikes eliminating most of their armor, Mexico is expected to fall within the week. Operation Hornet's Nest is hopefully to put and end to Mexican military resistance.
Permalink
| November 21, 2010, 8:22 pm
 Group moderator 
Update of the day: The PRC strongholds in Hubei have fallen, Jiangxi is expected to hold out for another day, and Fuijan fights on. Chongqing Shi has been fully annexed, and what we hold in Manchuria has been formally organized. Our western areas will follow shortly in regards to organization.

Negotiations with Inner Mongolia have begun, to peacefully integrate them back into China. If they don't go well, it should't matter, it won't hold out long.

Production of the Miantiao goes on, along with the HAT-1 Mk. II. The first 20 tanks have been rolled out and will be shipped south for service against the PRC, while the fighters number roughly ten, with another twenty in various stages of completion.
Permalink
| November 21, 2010, 8:39 pm
The UKS have decided to invest in making some Type-102 submarines and some Type-103 Battleships
Permalink
| November 21, 2010, 8:44 pm
Quoting danny morgan
The Union:

- started building a prototype submarine to replace all subs. Might be finished in late 2038
- having had influence over Timor in the past, have decided to make a deal with Timor to use their oil deposits in exchanged for highly improved medical and other facilities.

Oh, and Matt P., I don't think it's a good idea to invade Madagascar as it is too close to mainland Africa, and they might feel provoked to invade Australia. I say this purely out of of concern. Maybe wait, invade isolated countries, until you're powerful enough to take Africa. At the moment I have little interest in Africa myself.


I just thought it would be better to be less "isolated" in the world. Madagascar is a connection to Africa, and there I will have a better connection of trading, etc., with other nations like in Europe or Asia. I wasn't really worried about African nations invading me, because most of those places are controlled by crazy warlords that overthrow the government and kill civilians. I know we can't plan invasions and such, but if you are interested, we could have a joint operation to invade Africa possibly.
Permalink
| November 21, 2010, 9:28 pm
Quoting Matt P

I just thought it would be better to be less "isolated" in the world. Madagascar is a connection to Africa, and there I will have a better connection of trading, etc., with other nations like in Europe or Asia. I wasn't really worried about African nations invading me, because most of those places are controlled by crazy warlords that overthrow the government and kill civilians. I know we can't plan invasions and such, but if you are interested, we could have a joint operation to invade Africa possibly.

Yeah, I'm just saying that neither of us could single handedly take on Africa. But maybe combined we'd actually stand a decent chance. Right now though I'm concentrating on conquering all nations within Indonesia, Which includes Malaysia, borneo, etc.
Permalink
| November 21, 2010, 9:41 pm
Quoting danny morgan
Yeah, I'm just saying that neither of us could single handedly take on Africa. But maybe combined we'd actually stand a decent chance. Right now though I'm concentrating on conquering all nations within Indonesia, Which includes Malaysia, borneo, etc.


Alright, I'll hold off Operation Python for now, until we can together invade Africa. Maybe I can go for Sri Lanka, but I will need a base closer to there first...
Permalink
| November 21, 2010, 9:49 pm
Quoting Matt P

Alright, I'll hold off Operation Python for now, until we can together invade Africa. Maybe I can go for Sri Lanka, but I will need a base closer to there first...

What about New Zealand? I think malaysia is my next target.
Permalink
| November 21, 2010, 10:07 pm
 Group moderator 
Danny, Matt, stop spamming with your discussion of plans. Take it to Flickr mail, the rest of us honestly don't care to see it.
Permalink
| November 21, 2010, 10:18 pm
Quoting Awesome-o-saurus The Not-So-Great
Danny, Matt, stop spamming with your discussion of plans. Take it to Flickr mail, the rest of us honestly don't care to see it.

Nice job. /highfive
Permalink
| November 21, 2010, 10:26 pm
Who be stealin mah land?
Nobody? Good.

Now in the SU:
We have successfully crated a supersonic stealth system. More info on the way.In the Canadian Tundra, Solar Panel fields are being constructed. A new logistical vehicle, scheduled for release this Monday will hopefully speed up construction.
Permalink
| November 21, 2010, 10:38 pm
Quoting Awesome-o-saurus The Not-So-Great
Danny, Matt, stop spamming with your discussion of plans. Take it to Flickr mail, the rest of us honestly don't care to see it.

Oh, yeah, sorry about that. Matt, i'm banana forge on flickr, so if you want to speak of plans there, comment on the only picture Ive posted.

Quoting Brikkr ™
Nice job. /highfive

Ok, WTH?

You know brikkr, that really was not necessary, you don't have to act like you 'got one off on me', Ive never done anything bad to you and it's not like I'm beggar pie. Some advice - don't be a n0b
Permalink
| November 21, 2010, 10:55 pm
Quoting danny morgan
Oh, yeah, sorry about that. Matt, i'm banana forge on flickr, so if you want to speak of plans there, comment on the only picture Ive posted.

Quoting Brikkr ™
Nice job. /highfive

Ok, WTH?

You know brikkr, that really was not necessary, you don't have to act like you 'got one off on me', Ive never done anything bad to you and it's not like I'm beggar pie. Some advice - don't be a n0b

I don't want to start a flame war or anything...
but you've been kinda hater-ish. Going off on Mathew and now Brikkr. I suppose Brikkr's comment was a little provoking, but a simple -_- probably would of worked.
Calling people N0b and arse h0le over the internet really just isn't cool.
Permalink
| November 21, 2010, 11:14 pm
Quoting danny morgan
Ok, WTH?

You know brikkr, that really was not necessary, you don't have to act like you 'got one off on me', Ive never done anything bad to you and it's not like I'm beggar pie. Some advice - don't be a n0b

I was just kidding, chill out.
Permalink
| November 21, 2010, 11:24 pm
Quoting Jake H.
Ok, WTH?

You know brikkr, that really was not necessary, you don't have to act like you 'got one off on me', Ive never done anything bad to you and it's not like I'm beggar pie. Some advice - don't be a n0b

I don't want to start a flame war or anything...
but you've been kinda hater-ish. Going off on Mathew and now Brikkr. I suppose Brikkr's comment was a little provoking, but a simple -_- probably would of worked.
Calling people N0b and arse h0le over the internet really just isn't cool.

You're right actually. I'm just a bit intolerant at the moment. I didn't mean Brikkr was a n0b, I was advising him not to be like one. But Matthew was different, he really was behaving like a n0b in the COP, I don't think I was overreacting there...

Anyway, let's get back on topic
Permalink
| November 22, 2010, 12:36 am
@Brikkr, Danny, Matt:

Please. Be. Quiet.




In other news, Oklahoma still goes good. Tomorrow we'll have updated information from our Commanders on our locations.
Permalink
| November 22, 2010, 12:39 am
On infrastructure: nuclear powerplants, updating the efficiency of mining and refining in the East.

Kyrghizstan is pretty much dealt with. They've got a crater where their parliament used to be, but that's standard procedure.

Quoting danny morgan
What about New Zealand?

Guerilla's dream. I seriously doubt the locals would welcome invasion, and most of the population is in rural areas. You can't just wander into a city and demand people hand in their guns in an environment like that.
Permalink
| November 22, 2010, 2:03 am
 Group admin 
Matt, Danny, I dont want to continue this, but now its warning number 2. I hope that we do not need to continue reminding the both of you on a relatively simple anti-spam measure.

In other news, in the UFS, other than the six extremists who staged the Oslo Massacre, our intelligence force is struggling to find links of them to anyone else. We have a possible weapons dealer in the Balkans that may have supplied the weapons.

The Type 2 GMCs' superstructures are now completed, but several weeks remain in order to finish construction.

The order of Type-4 Subs for the Baltic Alliance is continuing at a breakneck pace (with almost all of our shipyards devoted to these exports). They should be completed within two weeks.

UFS Special Operators have completed operation Able Talon, a large scale counterterrorism exercise. These troops will be given a week before Operation Vigiliant Talon, a sister exercise speciliazing in full-scale war drills.

To maintain a combat edge, development of a next-gen composite armor has begun. We honestly have no clue how long it will take. Concurrently, development of more effective Kinetic Penetrator rounds have begun for our tanks.

Development of the attack helocopter has been put on indefinite hold due to lack of funding, however, we will procure a single prototype evetntually.
Permalink
| November 22, 2010, 9:35 am
Alaska has officially begun production of F-1 Blackfish stealth fighters and UAH-1 drones. We plan on producing AH-1s in the near future.
Permalink
| November 22, 2010, 10:48 am
 Group moderator 
After the conference over the weekend,things have taken a rather predictable turn.

The Dutch acting-president, with most of his government gutted and the capitol building destroyed, has asked to be integrated into the Baltic Union.

The basis of this is that the Baltic Union has been a supporter and backer of Holland for quite some time now, and has provided desperately needed support through this whole process, from before the terrorist activities to beyond.

The Baltic Union has agreed to the integration proposal on all fronts, and work is now being done to combine he armed forces of our two nations.

The Dutch citizens have ceased their anger towards us and their former government for the halt on the drug trade. The terrorist incident seems to have quieted a group of people who might otherwise have become a problem. The entire population of Holland is now in full support of going up in arms for national redemption from the men who committed the act.

On the continuing research into the terrorist organization, full cooperation has been given by the Polish and Belorussian foreign services into tracing their nationals who have been linked to the organization Red Hand.

The bomb in question, after chemical analysis, has been proven to be Czech in origin. Their government is now being approached for cooperation in this case.
Permalink
| November 22, 2010, 4:17 pm
Nothing that big, cept dotting the country with SAM sites
Permalink
| November 22, 2010, 4:24 pm
 Group admin 
Quoting Thomas N

The Dutch citizens have ceased their anger towards us and their former government for the halt on the drug trade. The terrorist incident seems to have quieted a group of people who might otherwise have become a problem. The entire population of Holland is now in full support of going up in arms for national redemption from the men who committed the act.



I sense a false flag operation. Too perfect...
Permalink
| November 22, 2010, 6:38 pm
Quoting Jack Ford
Alaska has officially begun production of F-1 Blackfish stealth fighters and UAH-1 drones. We plan on producing AH-1s in the near future.

How much funding are we talking about for this project Jack? If it means your kick-A panes then I'm in.

Permalink
| November 22, 2010, 6:41 pm
Quoting avallela
>.>

In the CDC, air defense exercises are complete. After thorough analysis, it has been determined that a full revamp of our entire air force and air defenses is in order. We have purchased several A-10a Thunderbolt IIs from Florida, along with F-35s and F-22s. We will be working very closely with aerospace engineers from the former US to reverse engineer these aircraft, and hopefully develop 2 decent planes for ground attack and air superiority roles.

I never sold you any Thunderbolts...

>.>
<.<
Permalink
| November 22, 2010, 6:52 pm
 Group admin 
Quoting Will G.
I never sold you any Thunderbolts...

>.>
<.<


Or F35s or F22s. Evan and I were actually just discussing that...
Permalink
| November 22, 2010, 6:54 pm
Quoting Matt Hacker
Quoting Thomas N

The Dutch citizens have ceased their anger towards us and their former government for the halt on the drug trade. The terrorist incident seems to have quieted a group of people who might otherwise have become a problem. The entire population of Holland is now in full support of going up in arms for national redemption from the men who committed the act.



I sense a false flag operation. Too perfect...


Let's call in the expert. What do you think, Admiral Ackbar?

"It looks perfectly legit."
Permalink
| November 22, 2010, 6:59 pm
Quoting Matt Hacker

Or F35s or F22s. Evan and I were actually just discussing that...

Errm, do I sense any need to, errm intervene...
Permalink
| November 22, 2010, 7:03 pm
 Group admin 
Granted the Chinese Civil War or what have you is now aiming at expanding into Mongolia, armed drills in the Siberian Quarter have increased exponentially. Air raid scenarios are presently the main focus with SAMs and the like being set up alongst key targets and population-dense areas. Of course land-based scenarios are also drawn across the board; however, if we're able to hold our own in the skies, we'll be able to hold the ground as well. Land-based artillery systems in conjunction with the Sakhalin Naval Command Center will operate around-the-clock to combat the threat of an amphibious attack. As once put, "You can shoot down a missile, but there isn't much you can do against a fast chunk of steel." Inaccuracies aside, this philosophy will serve well as a stop-gap measure.

In news of the Third Chechen War, current public-released intelligence is at a standstill granted the Defense Ministry is having to get its s--- together with the continuous stream of field reports and chatter. A proper media report will be granted a bit later.

Also, the Russian Federation is fixing to release one of its newest GMD vessels under the premise of prototypical testing and trial. The construction has been relatively unnoted seeing as though turmoil has distressed our nation. This is actually a joint design between UFS-held companies and those within the Federation. Future defense programs will likely increase if all goes well with the GMD.

Speaking of joint defense programs, the Russian Federation would like to procure the construction rights for four Type-2s. This will help with our mutual domestic defense as well as whatever foreign interests either of us may look into as needing armed intervention.
Permalink
| November 22, 2010, 7:15 pm
 Group admin 
Quoting Ham N' Biscuits

Let's call in the expert. What do you think, Admiral Ackbar?

"It looks perfectly legit."


It does not look legit, contrary to the good Admiral. Think about it. A terrorist attack like that, and then getting the entire (former dissenting) population to turn their backs on drugs is highly unlikely, so I call false flag.
Admittedly it is rather genious :3
Permalink
| November 22, 2010, 7:19 pm
I have a question: is it essential that I read everything everyone says in this thread? It's just that some of the reports are so long and boring and complicated and don't make much sense sometimes. Here's my report:

-production of a new prototype helicopter has started, called 'Valkyrie'
-Indonesia prepares to invade Borneo and Bali
-a convoy of Indonesian army trucks were attacked by militants, killing 3 officers.
Permalink
| November 22, 2010, 7:49 pm
Quoting Matt Hacker

It does not look legit, contrary to the good Admiral. Think about it. A terrorist attack like that, and then getting the entire (former dissenting) population to turn their backs on drugs is highly unlikely, so I call false flag.
Admittedly it is rather genious :3

It's a joke...
Permalink
| November 22, 2010, 7:50 pm
 Group admin 
Quoting danny morgan
I have a question: is it essential that I read everything everyone says in this thread? It's just that some of the reports are so long and boring and complicated and don't make much sense sometimes.

How are we to know what you do and don't read? We encourage you know the happenings of every sector of the globe, granted this is an international community and some items may call upon certain polar actions; however, reading is not a requirement de jure.
Permalink
| November 22, 2010, 7:53 pm
Quoting Dr. Spontaneous
How are we to know what you do and don't read? We encourage you know the happenings of every sector of the globe, granted this is an international community and some items may call upon certain polar actions; however, reading is not a requirement de jure.

Ok. I'm not saying I don't read peoples reports, just some of them seem a bit pointless. But ok Ill read them all...
Permalink
| November 22, 2010, 7:57 pm
Venezuela:
Troops are pushing north from Santa Elena towards Angel Falls in the Guyanian Highlands. However, troops are now required to clear out the surrounding area before armored vehicles can continue as to minimize the risk of guerilla attack. The Brazilian and Venezuelan armies clashed again today in the Amazon. 500 soldiers, 20 T-72s and 5 AMX-30s materialized out of the mist and began to fire on the Brazilian Armor. The Leopards immediately acted and took out 6 T-72s and an AMX before the Venezuelans Retreated. 6 T-72s and 3 AMXs were found later in the jungle with their treads blown off, but in otherwise fine condition. The captured armor was hauled off to Santa Elena after the area was secured.
The navy is planning on sending troops into Caracas.
Permalink
| November 22, 2010, 8:31 pm
 Group moderator 
Quoting Matt Hacker

It does not look legit, contrary to the good Admiral. Think about it. A terrorist attack like that, and then getting the entire (former dissenting) population to turn their backs on drugs is highly unlikely, so I call false flag.
Admittedly it is rather genious :3

I never said the whole population was against our move. The pro-drug rebels were a minority group that sprang up for a few weeks, the protests drew crowds of a few thousand, but the majority of the population was and is content to live their life unaffected by vile substances.

And don't worry about me unrealistically ending this story abruptly, I still have whole dimensions to take this into, just wait and see. I pride myself on my literary prowess.
Permalink
| November 22, 2010, 8:38 pm
In The Commonwealth...

The a team of Ambassadors have arrived in Jamaica, to negotiate about their joing of The Commonwealth. Very generous offers have been made to the government of Jamaica, and they seem to be very interested in joining. The designing of the new radar systems that can detect even the most advanced stealth countermeasures has reach a breakthrough in technology. The project now codenamed Mulbery and is classified. It is currently going through its testing phase, and it will be tested on the stealthy F-35 fighter. It is predicted that the design of this advanced radar will be completed by early December, and it will be integrated with a new SAM system across The Commonwealth on both land and sea. The upgrading of the Challenger 2 tank is now at 75% completion. They will be a formidable match with their 140mm gun, new ERA, and upgraded Chobham Armor. Finally the production of the Royal Navy's newest ships are nearing completion. The first batch 7 of the Recluse-Class Cruiser will be partially completed before Christmas. Currently, all 7 ships are in production, but 5 of the 7 will be completed first before the two.
Permalink
| November 22, 2010, 9:15 pm
Quoting Will G.
Quoting Jack Ford
Alaska has officially begun production of F-1 Blackfish stealth fighters and UAH-1 drones. We plan on producing AH-1s in the near future.

How much funding are we talking about for this project Jack? If it means your kick-A panes then I'm in.

Any funding available will be gladly accepted, but for now we've got a pretty good system going. If you could provide some material, that would be awesome, since that's my main limitation.
Permalink
| November 22, 2010, 9:22 pm
 Group moderator 
Quoting Dr. Spontaneous
Granted the Chinese Civil War or what have you is now aiming at expanding into Mongolia, armed drills in the Siberian Quarter have increased exponentially. Air raid scenarios are presently the main focus with SAMs and the like being set up alongst key targets and population-dense areas. Of course land-based scenarios are also drawn across the board; however, if we're able to hold our own in the skies, we'll be able to hold the ground as well. Land-based artillery systems in conjunction with the Sakhalin Naval Command Center will operate around-the-clock to combat the threat of an amphibious attack. As once put, "You can shoot down a missile, but there isn't much you can do against a fast chunk of steel." Inaccuracies aside, this philosophy will serve well as a stop-gap measure.
...
Speaking of joint defense programs, the Russian Federation would like to procure the construction rights for four Type-2s. This will help with our mutual domestic defense as well as whatever foreign interests either of us may look into as needing armed intervention.


Second Chinese Civil War, to be accurate. But your response to my approach in the north is a perfectly logical one, I don't see it as aggressive in nature. Not until you suddenly start moving troops over there, that is. And indeed, I did say something along those lines.

And what's a type 2? China has a lot of "Type-X" stuff, in case that's aimed at me.
Permalink
| November 22, 2010, 9:25 pm
 Group admin 
Quoting Awesome-o-saurus The Not-So-Great

Second Chinese Civil War, to be accurate. But your response to my approach in the north is a perfectly logical one, I don't see it as aggressive in nature. Not until you suddenly start moving troops over there, that is. And indeed, I did say something along those lines.

And what's a type 2? China has a lot of "Type-X" stuff, in case that's aimed at me.

I thought I threw the "Second" in there, but I guess I deleted it when I re-wrote the sentence. My bad. Anyhow, my acts are purely defensive. The main reason for force mobilization is the possibility of partisans along our borders causing hassle and stray units wanting to barge in.

Anyhow, the Type-2s are the GMCs designed by Matt. Sorry for the confusion.

In other late news, a trade agreement has been concluded with Alaska; in which case the agreement includes the production rights for the Su-51. Russia has been granted the ability to produce and utilize the aircraft domestically. In return, Alaska will be able to utilize Federation factories to produce aircraft for its own use without any taxation or things of that nature. More or less, Russia will be producing the Su-51 for both itself and Alaska.
Permalink
| November 22, 2010, 9:29 pm
Quoting Jack Ford
Any funding available will be gladly accepted, but for now we've got a pretty good system going. If you could provide some material, that would be awesome, since that's my main limitation.

Funding and raw materials will be shipped to Alaska ASAP.
I'll be sending over building equipment, supervising engineering equipment and money.

What plane planes were they again?
Permalink
| November 22, 2010, 9:36 pm
I'd like to request some ASBMs from China.
Permalink
| November 22, 2010, 10:08 pm
Quoting Jake H.
I'd like to request some ASBMs from China.

Not to sound like a n0b, but doesn't this belong in the trading board?
Permalink
| November 22, 2010, 10:21 pm
 Group admin 
Quoting Dr. Spontaneous
Speaking of joint defense programs, the Russian Federation would like to procure the construction rights for four Type-2s. This will help with our mutual domestic defense as well as whatever foreign interests either of us may look into as needing armed intervention.


The UFS will gladly sell production rights to our Type-2 Guided Missile Cruiers to our good neighbors in the East. We wish you good luck and good service with them.
Permalink
| November 22, 2010, 10:22 pm
Well, it's high time I did some conquering. Today negotiations with Cape Verde have been revealed by said government, in which we attempted to annex them peacefully. Their end of the table made the ambassadors leave immediately, and their president said he would fight with all his power. The King commented on this outburst, declaring it comedic, for an army of 1,000 poorly trained men cannot dream of putting up a fight against a large, elite, and well equipped force.

As a result, several ships were sent in to patrol the area, hoping this display of force will dissuade any resistance.
Permalink
| November 22, 2010, 10:23 pm
Quoting danny morgan
Not to sound like a n0b, but doesn't this belong in the trading board?

Probably...
I didn't even know we had one though XD
Permalink
| November 22, 2010, 10:24 pm
A deal has been made with Brazil to give the blueprints for the F-35 and the A-10 in exchange for one Rio class carrier.
Permalink
| November 22, 2010, 10:28 pm
Quoting Will G.
Funding and raw materials will be shipped to Alaska ASAP.
I'll be sending over building equipment, supervising engineering equipment and money.

What plane planes were they again?

Right now it's the F-1 Blackfish, the AH-1 Black Falcon, and the UAH-1 Myotis. I may manage to make the Su-51 available, reproduced under a US designation of F-27 Fafnir. I haven't finalized the plans on the Fafnir though.
Permalink
| November 22, 2010, 10:32 pm
Well right now I'll begin fitting my factories with the plans for the Blackfish. Do you mind my asking, is the the upgraded or downgraded version?
Permalink
| November 22, 2010, 10:36 pm
 Group moderator 
Quoting Jake H.
I'd like to request some ASBMs from China.


State your exact wants on trade chat.
Permalink
| November 22, 2010, 10:42 pm
 Group admin 
Today, with Russia's blessing, we have begun working on a new anti- Anti Shipping Balistic Missile system. The actual interception weapon will be developed in Russia, while the radar and fire control will be developed in the UFS.
Permalink
| November 22, 2010, 10:59 pm
A trade with the South has finally stopped the Jake-H-ians that were sent to me from playing ping pong. They're working on a Rio class carrier.
Permalink
| November 22, 2010, 10:59 pm
Just so this doesn't get skipped over, I suggest Tom, Matt, and anyone else who thinks they have a nice submarine to check out my offer in the trading boards.
Permalink
| November 22, 2010, 11:06 pm
 Group moderator 
The WC has begun development on a joint strike/air superiority fighter. Manufacturing is expected to give about 9,000 people jobs in several states. It is to be designated the F-89.

Edit:
Research at several defense contracting facilities has begun on the following:
AESA Radar
Sidewinder MkX
Sparrow MkXI
TUSK Preemptive defense package for armor
Permalink
| November 22, 2010, 11:13 pm
Quoting Will G.
Well right now I'll begin fitting my factories with the plans for the Blackfish. Do you mind my asking, is the the upgraded or downgraded version?
For now, we've got downgraded. In 21st century world, I had developed several extremely genious sensor packages and advanced ECM capabilities, which now I must re-develop all over again.

Speaking of which, Alaska is now beginning research on electronic designs produced by a respected Garcia aircraft software designer. The said technology, provided it passes testing standards, will be installed on most ships and frontline aircraft in the Alaskan Armed Forces, as well as SAM sites.

Garcia has accepted the contract to make an ECM variant of the Blackfish, using the software under development.
Permalink
| November 23, 2010, 12:38 am
 Group moderator 
Quoting Ham N' Biscuits
Just so this doesn't get skipped over, I suggest Tom, Matt, and anyone else who thinks they have a nice submarine to check out my offer in the trading boards.

My submarine is a boomer, so I don't think it'll serve your purpose.

I could whip u a quick fast attack, but it would probably be an exact copy of Matt's anyway.


Speaking of Naval stuff, the B.N.S. Berlin is nearing completion, with B.N.S. Hamburg following close behind. Both of these carriers will enter sea trials within the month, accompanied by full battle groups.

The keel of a third super carrier, the B.N.S. Amsterdam, has been laid down in honor of Holland joining the Union.

Permalink
| November 23, 2010, 8:16 am
The Atlantic union is switching the outdated ACU camo pattern with the new A- TACS, and Remington is going to be producing a more modern ACR variant.

Helicopter anti-missile systems are in development.


Permalink
| November 23, 2010, 3:41 pm
The IU is still preparing for the invasions of both Borneo and Bali, making last minute checks, making sure they have their asthma puffers, making sure their mobile phones are switched off, re-tying their shoe laces, etc.

Btw are there any oil rigs in the Indonesian area? I though there were.
Permalink
| November 23, 2010, 4:05 pm
Australia is planning an invasion on Sri Lanka. The 3rd fleet will be stationed at either Cocos Island or Christmas Island. From there, the invasion will begin with an airborne attack off the Eastern coast of Sri Lanka, followed by a larger seaborne assault.

Also, a plan is being created for a capture of the Solomon Islands, but that will be later.
Permalink
| November 23, 2010, 4:40 pm
Regarding Russia: defensive units have mobilized and taken up positions along the border.

Regarding projects:
Sufficient "Sokol" strike helicopters have been produced to replace the Hind in the anti-tank role.
Their underbelly missile system, regrettably, is delayed somewhat.


Some passive armour of classified design seems to be quite promising. So far it appears to offer a 50% improvement over current ceramic composites with only a 15% weight increase.
Permalink
| November 23, 2010, 5:03 pm
 Group admin 
Quoting Thomas N
Speaking of Naval stuff, the B.N.S. Berlin is nearing completion, with B.N.S. Hamburg following close behind. Both of these carriers will enter sea trials within the month, accompanied by full battle groups.

The keel of a third super carrier, the B.N.S. Amsterdam, has been laid down in honor of Holland joining the Union.

Where exactly is this defense budgeting coming from? The ships are of course quite expensive and with you having to re-organize each nation to fit your union, you'll be straining the organization of your present defense office. Not only this, but you're taking tax dollars away from social benefits (which you'll accordingly need for an aging European population) for a defense force not presently indoctrinated for overseas intervention.
Permalink
| November 23, 2010, 5:42 pm
Venezuela: Troops have advanced nearly to the foot of Angel Falls. Enemy morale is at the breaking point and it is expected that the forces around the Falls will surender soon. A naval detachment is headed toward Maracaibo and are expected to start a ruckus in a few days. In other news a full analysis on the Venezuelan tanks shows that they were disabled by you guessed it, IEDs. Brazilian commanders have been warned to check for IEDs and so far 5 have been found and only one has exploded, causing moderate damage to a tank.
Just to put this out there: a secret project has begun and will be unveiled at it's completion.
Permalink
| November 23, 2010, 7:02 pm
All fares well in Kentucky and Missouri. This project looks like it will produce enough gold to pay off they operation several times over. And we have plenty of Abrams to upgrade if anyone is looking to buy some. The Kentucky government was quick to join the Confederacy as soon as they were given the option, unfortunately Missouri was quite a bit more stubborn. They tried to create an organized militia which was put down when tear gas was fired into the crowd of dissenters.
One man, however, was hit in the head with a canister and was sent to the hospital with a minor concussion. The total casualties for this operation was:
CSS Troops: 6
Opposing Forces: 43
Civilians: 4 (These civilians were intoxicated when their car slammed into a Sam Houston NWRHBT at 89 mph as they swerved down the highway.)
Permalink
| November 23, 2010, 8:56 pm
Quoting Evan Melick
Okay, finishing up the map at the moment...

1) Who owns East New Guinea?
2) Who owns East Timor?
3) What exactly do you own in Central Asia Finn?

I own Kentucky and Missouri.
Permalink
| November 23, 2010, 8:59 pm
 Group moderator 
Quoting Evan Melick
Okay, finishing up the map at the moment...

3) What exactly do you own in Central Asia Finn?


Bro, Finn's in Korea. Central Asia is the other group. Stop having flashbacks, maaaan.
Permalink
| November 23, 2010, 9:00 pm
 Group moderator 
Quoting Evan Melick
Okay, finishing up the map at the moment...

1) Who owns East New Guinea?
2) Who owns East Timor?
3) What exactly do you own in Central Asia Finn?

Don't forget I got Lithuania and Latvia weeks ago, and Holland should at least have diagonal stripes, if it is too much to say they are fully incorporated, which they are not.
Permalink
| November 23, 2010, 9:02 pm
In the SU, Boston Dynamic's little dog is being used to carry supplies over rough, and undeveloped terrain.
A plant will be opened shortly to increase production, and plans are being drawn up to outfit it for air dropping.
Permalink
| November 23, 2010, 9:10 pm
Quoting Evan Melick
Okay, finishing up the map at the moment...

1) Who owns East New Guinea?
2) Who owns East Timor?
3) What exactly do you own in Central Asia Finn?

I own all of timor, that Indonesian island that has Jakarta on it (uh, what's it called) and west new guinea. I'm also about the invade borneo, and since their defense is pathetic, you might as well put that down as my territory already.
I don't know if you know this, but the colour I requested was light sand green

Oh and Matt P owns east new guinea
Permalink
| November 23, 2010, 9:33 pm
Quoting Evan Melick
Okay, finishing up the map at the moment...

1) Who owns East New Guinea?
2) Who owns East Timor?
3) What exactly do you own in Central Asia Finn?

Australia owns East New Guinea and New Caledonia.
Permalink
| November 23, 2010, 9:38 pm
 Group moderator 
Quoting Evan Melick
I already put them fully into the BU, and I'm too lazy to change it, so meh. :P

OK, then who is the guy who is in central Asia...


That'd be Areetsa. He's got Kazakhstan, Kyrgyzstan, and Xinjiang province of China.
Permalink
| November 23, 2010, 9:39 pm
Quoting henry wang
Jamaica is now part of the Commonwealth.

I am very interested to hear how you plan on winning the drug war you just inherited. I'm sure you're military has developed a very thorough strategy after all two days you were negotiating. We would love to set up diplomatic ties with our neighbor's new government, and would like you to consider a free agricultural trade agreement. We think Jamaica could greatly benefit from this, as it has very little agricultural capacities. We are willing to provide advisors should the UK decide to begin desalinization projects in their relatively dry new island. Also, the CDC feels it must take part in this new trend of imperialism, and we will be sending a delegation of diplomats to the Bahamas.
Permalink
| November 23, 2010, 9:48 pm
 Group admin 
Quoting henry wang
Jamaica is now part of the Commonwealth.


The UFS finds this, among other things from you, a blatent act of hostile takeover of a fairly peaceful island. If you take one more purely agressive move the UFS will have to reconsider our diplomatic ties, or worse. Good day, sir.
Permalink
| November 23, 2010, 9:49 pm
In The Commonwealth...

Negotiations will Jamaica have ended, it has been agreed upon that Jamaica will remain part of The Commonwealth Realm and will remain to have very strong trading ties with The Commonwealth. They will recieve any sort of aid from The Commonwealth when they ask and it is approved by Parliament. For now all tariffs on Jamaican products will be abolished to promote trade with the island nation. They will also be given military hardware from the Commonwealth if they ask for it. We have decided that they will be given counter-narcotics support from our government. All drug trafficing will be stopped and all the murderous drug lords will be brought to the light of justice. Jamaica will also remain a self governing state and will continue to govern itself in its own ways of choosing.
Permalink
| November 23, 2010, 10:00 pm
 Group admin 
Quoting henry wang


As an Admin, I must make this call. There have been murmerings already in Jamaica of a resistance movement, UFS media reports. We sure hope for the Commonwealth that this does not grow to a bigger issue...

Seriously. You cannot just assume that a country would just love to be taken over. Same thing goes for Matt P and Danny, expect lots of hostilities if you forcibly get a country to comply.
Permalink
| November 23, 2010, 10:05 pm
Quoting Evan Melick
You do realize that by invading New Caledonia, you are now at war with France yes?

I thought New Caledonia is an independent nation, but i guess it is not. An apology will be made to France, along with total evacuation of troops and money will be payed back to them for the damages in Noumea.
Permalink
| November 23, 2010, 10:08 pm
Quoting Matt Hacker
Quoting henry wang


As an Admin, I must make this call. There have been murmerings already in Jamaica of a resistance movement, UFS media reports. We sure hope for the Commonwealth that this does not grow to a bigger issue...

Seriously. You cannot just assume that a country would just love to be taken over. Same thing goes for Matt P and Danny, expect lots of hostilities if you forcibly get a country to comply.

Jamaica has always been part of the Commonwealth Realm, so basically nothing has changed, except that we will be giving more aid to the island.

Permalink
| November 23, 2010, 10:08 pm
 Group admin 
Quoting henry wang
Jamaica has always been part of the Commonwealth Realm, so basically nothing has changed, except that we will be giving more aid to the island.


So, the point is that they have had autonomy for a while, and you just annexed a country. Just because they have always been "kinda" associated with the UK, your actions are more in the lines of a direct takeover, hence the grumblings. I have already discussed this with Evan and we feel that in general, takeovers have to be much less smooth than the "everyone is delighted to be part of ____" of last group.
Permalink
| November 23, 2010, 10:10 pm
Quoting Matt Hacker

So, the point is that they have had autonomy for a while, and you just annexed a country. Just because they have always been "kinda" associated with the UK, your actions are more in the lines of a direct takeover, hence the grumblings. I have already discussed this with Evan and we feel that in general, takeovers have to be much less smooth than the "everyone is delighted to be part of ____" of last group.

Ok I totally understand that, and I agree with you. Right now I don't have Jamaica as part of my territory, currently I just want to have strong ties with the country. Hence why I took back my original comment.

Permalink
| November 23, 2010, 10:15 pm
 Group admin 
Back to my own business. Upgrades on shipyards are at 50% and construction of export Type-4s are at 60% completion.

Our small, mostly ex-Swedish Navy will be headed today to Iceland to help show that we mean to protect them against any threat, taking Denmark's former role. On that note, we have successfully persuaded Denmark, as well as the Icelandic government that the UFS is more able to protect Iceland than Denmark, hence the transfer of protection.

Speaking of Iceland, the UFS government is offering lots of discounts to flights to Iceland, to help the tourism trade there be bolstered.
Modernization of the ex-USAF base at Keflavik goes well, with a new radar system being installed, and munitions and fuel storage facilities being modernized to be more protected. Of course, this is all being done under the air base usage treaty signed several weeks ago.
Permalink
| November 23, 2010, 10:24 pm
Well it seems that merely a presence in Cape Verde is not enough for the President to surrender. So drones were called in from the Canary Islands to take out several petty AA positions they hastily put up. The AA was ancient Soviet equipment, but it still posed a threat. Naval commanders do not wish to display the full might of this task force due to population density. We won't have high civilian deaths on our hands.
Permalink
| November 23, 2010, 10:25 pm
 Group moderator 
Montana has been approached about joining the Western Confederation. The Governor has agreed to put it to a vote. We'll see how that turns out.

Production has started in a couple of the factories already. The Abrams M1A5 is being produced, a much upgraded version of the M1A2 with a 130mm, multi-chambered main gun, allowing it to fire a 3-round burst. The blow-out ammunition compartment has been enlarged to allow for more rounds to be stored. A 30mm coaxial gun has been mounted, along with a 35mm to two prototype turrets. A classified strengthening chemical formula has been discovered to up-armor the Boron-carbide armor.

These types will be evaluated at the new ranges in Utah.
Permalink
| November 23, 2010, 10:25 pm
for purposes of expanding territory, The IU is ready to invade Borneo and Malaysia. Malaysia still seams uncertain about whether or not to put up a fight, but Borneo has reacted with open defiance to our plans. We will give the Malaysian government a few more days chance to peacefully join us, but we attack Borneo tonight!

Chinooks and Amphibious tanks standing by...
Permalink
| November 23, 2010, 10:34 pm
San Jose Int'l Airport now has 2 squadrons established there. A force of 2,000 men and 40 tanks, 60 APCs and other support has been transferred to Costa Rica.
The construction of the Aircraft Carrier goes well. Designing of a new ultra-efficient fuel cell starts, hopefully to make one powerful and efficient enough for military use.
Permalink
| November 23, 2010, 10:39 pm
 Group moderator 
Quoting Evan Melick

I was just thinking about that. I've not even fired a shot yet with my expansion. I just hope Montana votes to join...
Permalink
| November 23, 2010, 10:51 pm
Quoting Ultramarine .
Montana has been approached about joining the Western Confederation. The Governor has agreed to put it to a vote. We'll see how that turns out.

Production has started in a couple of the factories already. The Abrams M1A5 is being produced, a much upgraded version of the M1A2 with a 130mm, multi-chambered main gun, allowing it to fire a 3-round burst. The blow-out ammunition compartment has been enlarged to allow for more rounds to be stored. A 30mm coaxial gun has been mounted, along with a 35mm to two prototype turrets. A classified strengthening chemical formula has been discovered to up-armor the Boron-carbide armor.

These types will be evaluated at the new ranges in Utah.

Well my Abrams have 140's. :P
(sticks tongue out)

On a new note, Caracas is being slowly secured, with little resistance from the untrained Venezuelan troops. Most troops trained under Hugo Chavez are too old to fight, so they have almost no military.
Permalink
| November 23, 2010, 10:53 pm
 Group moderator 
Quoting Will G.
Well my Abrams have 140's. :P
(sticks tongue out)

Well you have fun with the maintenance on that, and the ammo storage...

*Sticks tongue out further*
=P
Permalink
| November 23, 2010, 11:01 pm
Quoting Will G.
...untrained Brazilian troops...

You mean Venezuelan, right?
Permalink
| November 23, 2010, 11:02 pm
The Russian-built Su-51 has been scheduled to enter service with the Alaskan Airforce under the designation F-27 Fafnir. They are to be modified slightly to benifit the pilots, with more familiar software and configuration.

The Alaskan Air Defense Board has begun modifications of Unalaska Airport to enable it to hold 12 F-15s. Also, the harbor is being expanded to hold four Coast Guard and Naval vessels up to 600 feet long.

Sitka is also undergoing several modifications, and in near future there are to be 18 F-22s stationed there. Major expansion of the third harbor (about ten miles from downtown) is taking place. This will become Alaska's second largest Naval installation, next only to Homer.

Speaking of which, I could use some more ships...
Permalink
| November 23, 2010, 11:49 pm
Quoting Awesome-o-saurus The Not-So-Great
That'd be Areetsa. He's got Kazakhstan, Kyrgyzstan, and Xinjiang province of China.

MOST of Kyrgyzstan.

Speaking of which, everyone there is thrilled at being part of the Confederation.


But then, they would be, because happiness is mandatory.
Permalink
| November 24, 2010, 12:36 am
 Group moderator 
Quoting Areetsa C

But then, they would be, because happiness is mandatory.


I approve of this rule... I'll look into making it mandatory around here.
Permalink
| November 24, 2010, 12:38 am
 Group admin 
Quoting Ultramarine .
Well you have fun with the maintenance on that, and the ammo storage...

*Sticks tongue out further*
=P


I hope you enjoy replacing barrels after a few days of combat ops with you three-round burst 130 ;)
Permalink
| November 24, 2010, 8:11 am
Quoting Matt Hacker
I have already discussed this with Evan and we feel that in general, takeovers have to be much less smooth than the "everyone is delighted to be part of ____" of last group.

What about time? I remember a couple of western states joining someone in a single day...
Permalink
| November 24, 2010, 8:56 am
 Group admin 
The problem in Norway is far more severe than we thought. While the governemnt still feels that it is best to be a part of the UFS, the suddenness of the decision has marred the image, and many Norwegians are demanding their independence. UFS diplomats are rushing to the scene, and Norwegian riot police (still recovering from the Oslo shootout) will be on high alert outside of government buildings.

Investigators are also investigating potentially dangerous dissident groups in Finland.

The first batch of new C5A Tanks are coming off the production lines, and are going through trials. The Lynx IFV is finally about to exit its extensive prototype stage, and are nearing the final configuration.
Permalink
| November 24, 2010, 11:23 am
 Group moderator 
Quoting Jake H.
What about time? I remember a couple of western states joining someone in a single day...

Since this comment seemed to be directed toward my way, I feel compelled to proffer a rebuttal.
I, at least, see no problem in several states which share the same language, culture, and USED to share the same government being opposed to joining each other. Most of the states were governed by military authorities or councils that thought it better to unite with their former brothers-in-arms to form a coherent government than to stand alone.
For crying out loud, they used to be fellow-countrymen, why on earth should they not want to be 'one' again? Let alone try to fight each other?

Quoting Matt Hacker

I hope you enjoy replacing barrels after a few days of combat ops with you three-round burst 130 ;)

The 3-round burst is in emergencies, that would take up too much ammo, like full-auto M16s. Yes, it is material consumptive.
Permalink
| November 24, 2010, 1:17 pm
Quoting Ultramarine .
Since this comment seemed to be directed toward my way, I feel compelled to proffer a rebuttal.
I, at least, see no problem in several states which share the same language, culture, and USED to share the same government being opposed to joining each other. Most of the states were governed by military authorities or councils that thought it better to unite with their former brothers-in-arms to form a coherent government than to stand alone.
For crying out loud, they used to be fellow-countrymen, why on earth should they not want to be 'one' again? Let alone try to fight each other?


Well that comment wasn't directed at you, mainly because I couldn't remember who had done it. I just think more time should be spent incorporating other states/countries. In the old group I spent almost 2 months persuading B. Faso, and then incorporating took a while too.
Permalink
| November 24, 2010, 2:02 pm
 Group moderator 
In the old group, I spent a week convincing the Serbian government to take a bribe and join my empire.

>.>

What's up in China:

-The invaded provinces, except Fujian, have more or less fallen, but are far from secure. Sporadic skirmishes with PRC troops still flare up. Superior air power on our side has helped greatly, but two bombers were lost to PRC J-10s, which were promptly lost to our own Miantiao fighters.
-Hunan and southern Jiangxi are estimated to take two weeks to conquer, due to their proximity to Guangzhou, the PRC's capital.
Preliminary air strikes at the city have begun.
-The keel, so to say, for a new submarine class has been laid in the Jiangnan shipyards.

Here's a question for the group: The PRC is constructing two carriers in real life, scheduled to be done in 2015 (at aforementioned shipyards). Since they aren't done in real life, do they exist in the group?
Permalink
| November 24, 2010, 3:04 pm
Quoting Awesome-o-saurus The Not-So-Great
Here's a question for the group: The PRC is constructing two carriers in real life, scheduled to be done in 2015 (at aforementioned shipyards). Since they aren't done in real life, do they exist in the group?


I asked that a couple of weeks ago, and the answer is yes, as long as they are in construction now.
Permalink
| November 24, 2010, 3:14 pm
 Group moderator 
Quoting Ham N' Biscuits

I asked that a couple of weeks ago, and the answer is yes, as long as they are in construction now.


Excellent. I'll split mine with my fictional NPC enemy.
Permalink
| November 24, 2010, 3:25 pm
In the CDC, our "green" Energy Committee made a huge breakthrough today. Researchers have discovered an micro-bacteria that actually can consume nuclear-tainted material. This bacteria is being tested more carefully to determine the environmental consequences of using this bacteria, however we expect it to be a good solution to clean up after nuclear disasters. Once deemed safe, labs will begin to mass produce this bacteria. Also, construction of the 20 new Desalinization facilities has begun, and we are expecting this massive project to be complete in several months.

Permalink
| November 24, 2010, 4:50 pm
Quoting -> avalella
In the CDC, our "green" Energy Committee made a huge breakthrough today. Researchers have discovered an micro-bacteria that actually can consume nuclear-tainted material. This bacteria is being tested more carefully to determine the environmental consequences of using this bacteria, however we expect it to be a good solution to clean up after nuclear disasters. Once deemed safe, labs will begin to mass produce this bacteria and Congress will give the "Green Light" to begin construction of nuclear power plants. Again, we are inviting any country to send observe to witness this project. We will initially be building 4, which should be enough to power most of the CDC. Also, construction of the 25 new Desalinization facilities has begun, and we are expecting this massive project to be complete in several months.

I don't believe that you understood about the buying of the Floridian aircraft, because you didn't hear what I said first, but you can't buy my stuff, you know, the A-10's and F-35's.
Permalink
| November 24, 2010, 10:33 pm
The UKS have decided to ask Vietnam, Thailand, Philippines, Malaysia, and Indonesia to join our forces due to us all being smaller countries.
Permalink
| November 24, 2010, 10:47 pm
Quoting Finn C-Q
The UKS have decided to ask Vietnam, Thailand, Philippines, Malaysia, and Indonesia to join our forces due to us all being smaller countries.

Vietnam? Unless you're a commie I don't see that happening without another fight.
Permalink
| November 24, 2010, 11:09 pm
Quoting Will G.
Vietnam? Unless you're a commie I don't see that happening without another fight.

Rasist much
Permalink
| November 24, 2010, 11:18 pm
 Group moderator 
Quoting Jake H.
Well that comment wasn't directed at you, mainly because I couldn't remember who had done it. I just think more time should be spent incorporating other states/countries. In the old group I spent almost 2 months persuading B. Faso, and then incorporating took a while too.

That makes sense, since B. Faso was never the same country as Algeria. I personally don't see a problem with it, it's just like a futuristic application for statehood. Remember, we are talking about people that used to call themselves by the same precious name: Americans.

I recall there was once that 13 states joined each other in rather rapid succession...
Permalink
| November 24, 2010, 11:27 pm
Quoting Ultramarine .
]

I recall there was once that 13 states joined each other in rather rapid succession...

It was took more than a day, and they had a common enemy. That being said, no use arguing about what's been done, I only brought this up because the short take over time annoys me.
Permalink
| November 24, 2010, 11:29 pm
 Group moderator 
Quoting Finn C-Q
The UKS have decided to ask Vietnam, Thailand, Philippines, Malaysia, and Indonesia to join our forces due to us all being smaller countries.


I think the admins are gonna have a problem with this.
Permalink
| November 24, 2010, 11:32 pm
Quoting Finn C-Q
Rasist much

Annexing a guerrilla tactic using communist state hard much?
Permalink
| November 24, 2010, 11:44 pm
 Group admin 
Quoting Awesome-o-saurus The Not-So-Great

I think the admins are gonna have a problem with this.


You are right. Several things need to be ironed out now.

1) The "sale" of the aircraft to the CDC never happened since Florida is controlled by Will.
2) There is no way in the world that the CDC has enough money to make all these desalinization plants as well as FOUR nuclear reactors
3) Awe is right. Asking 5 countries is a LOT. And, BTW Indonesia is not "small" it is a very large and densely populated country. All I can say is that this is like quadrupling your population and land overnight, and dont expect these people to be all that happy about it.

Permalink
| November 24, 2010, 11:51 pm
Quoting Finn C-Q
The UKS have decided to ask Vietnam, Thailand, Philippines, Malaysia, and Indonesia to join our forces due to us all being smaller countries.

No.
Permalink
| November 25, 2010, 12:48 am
 Group moderator 
Quoting Jake H.
It was took more than a day, and they had a common enemy. That being said, no use arguing about what's been done, I only brought this up because the short take over time annoys me.

If it will help you get over it, I did it at the express request of a certain Moderator who will remain anonymous. Notice I haven't done it since?
Permalink
| November 25, 2010, 1:34 am
 Group moderator 
Thanks to our Greek friend, mentioned in my second post in ICF I (I think), a new helicopter is ready to enter production. In the PCU, it will be known as the HAH-2 Phoenix, here in China, the Bing-Xiang. You all know this as the Psygieo helicopter I posted a few weeks back. I'll generally refer to my things by the PCU name, simply because it's easier to remember. The point stands: the helicopter is entering production in both nations, alongside the HAT-1 Mk. II and MAF-2 (Miantiao).
Permalink
| November 25, 2010, 1:38 am
Quoting Evan Melick
Technically, you can't say no, as you only own about 1/3rd of Indonesia. Theoretically the rest of the Republic of Indonesia could join him, although the point is mute since the admins have taken action on such action.

Oh, yeah I see what you mean, I guess my answer applies to my part of Indonesia, and if he claimed the rest of Indonesia, i'd probably end up going to war with the UKS.
Permalink
| November 25, 2010, 3:13 am
 Group moderator 
Quoting danny morgan
Oh, yeah I see what you mean, I guess my answer applies to my part of Indonesia, and if he claimed the rest of Indonesia, i'd probably end up going to war with the UKS.


Like that one time he tried to invade one of my core provinces...

>.>

Early morning update: Nothing new on the front, more bombings have occurred. PRC got no chance for victory, but they can make us pay.
Permalink
| November 25, 2010, 3:42 am
Quoting Awesome-o-saurus The Not-So-Great

I think the admins are gonna have a problem with this.

It's not like I am going to say "all join willingly".
Permalink
| November 25, 2010, 8:03 am
Quoting danny morgan
Oh, yeah I see what you mean, I guess my answer applies to my part of Indonesia, and if he claimed the rest of Indonesia, i'd probably end up going to war with the UKS.

Oh sorry, I didn't know you were Indonesia, okay, i'll drop that one then.
Permalink
| November 25, 2010, 8:04 am
Quoting Will G.
Annexing a guerrilla tactic using communist state hard much?

I'm not annixing. :/

I'm trying peace talks and not just abruptly attacking
Permalink
| November 25, 2010, 8:06 am
Quoting Awesome-o-saurus The Not-So-Great

Like that one time he tried to invade one of my core provinces...

>.>

Early morning update: Nothing new on the front, more bombings have occurred. PRC got no chance for victory, but they can make us pay.

There wasn't a map! I didn't know...
Permalink
| November 25, 2010, 8:08 am
In The Commonwealth...

The Commonwealth radar system codenamed Mullbery is nearing completion. Now all that needs to be created is a portable enough computer, with the computing power to handle all of the tracking required. After a little bit less than a month, the new recruiting strategy has been very successful, and the new monthly quota has been met by all branches. The construction of the Recluse-Class cruiser is going along very well, and so far there have only been a few minor setbacks. Construction is going to schedule and the lead ship will be completed on time. Finally we will either be upgrading our current harpoon missiles or creating a new sub-sonic anti-shipping missile. The armed forces is currently debating which should be done.
Permalink
| November 25, 2010, 10:34 am
Alaska has begun a cycle to update the color schemes of all Military aircraft, to differentiate between our aircraft and those of other American countries. They are being painted in three-tone splinter camo, the exact colors depending on the aircraft and there roles. By next March we hope to have every aircraft in service with Alaskan Armed Forces, (with the exception of Coast Guard) painted in more modern and more effective coloration.

We also plan on re-opening Red Flag Alaska. If anyone is interested in participating, feel free to say so.

Garcia Aircraft Industries has begun production of a light Naval Fighter for Alaska's Naval needs. These fighters will also be used in smaller airports in the Aleutians and in Southeast that are too small for F-15s and to insignificant for F-22s. These small isolated towns are in the Navy juristiction.

I'll get them posted when they enter service.
Permalink
| November 25, 2010, 11:03 am
Quoting Matt Hacker

You are right. Several things need to be ironed out now.

1) The "sale" of the aircraft to the CDC never happened since Florida is controlled by Will.
2) There is no way in the world that the CDC has enough money to make all these desalinization plants as well as FOUR nuclear reactors
3) Awe is right. Asking 5 countries is a LOT. And, BTW Indonesia is not "small" it is a very large and densely populated country. All I can say is that this is like quadrupling your population and land overnight, and dont expect these people to be all that happy about it.

I already talked with you and Evan about it. You locked the ICF before I could edit it. If you want to, I'll be glad to change it. Also, please disregard my post about my nuclear reactors.
Permalink
| November 25, 2010, 11:22 am
Quoting Jack Ford
Alaska has begun a cycle to update the color schemes of all Military aircraft, to differentiate between our aircraft and those of other American countries. They are being painted in three-tone splinter camo, the exact colors depending on the aircraft and there roles. By next March we hope to have every aircraft in service with Alaskan Armed Forces, (with the exception of Coast Guard) painted in more modern and more effective coloration.

We also plan on re-opening Red Flag Alaska. If anyone is interested in participating, feel free to say so.

Garcia Aircraft Industries has begun production of a light Naval Fighter for Alaska's Naval needs. These fighters will also be used in smaller airports in the Aleutians and in Southeast that are too small for F-15s and to insignificant for F-22s. These small isolated towns are in the Navy juristiction.

I'll get them posted when they enter service.

The Confederate States Air Force would like to take part in the Red Flag Alaska Operation. May I ship my men over in C-130's after Thanksgiving Holiday? I will also be providing all my own aircraft, however I will need special training with the Blackfish.

In Venezuela Caracas is looking less like a modern city and more like a war-torn third world country. The city was pretty much evacuated at the beginning of the invasion, and thus civilian casualties are light. However The Parque Central Complex was destroyed sending a wave of confusion throughout the city and blinding and halting all ground movement.

In the states several car bombs went off in the Missouri and Kentucky Capitols showing the first signs of violent organized rebellion.
In total 34 people were hurt, none killed.
While outside Frankfort the same organized group of rebels got hold of seven
M-60 Patton tanks, two M-113 APC's, one M1 Abrams and a Huey armed with two M-60's.
It was quite a fight, however one Patton malfunctioned and exploded. The Huey was shot down by one of the CSS-36 Minotaurs where it crashed an burned in a nearby field.
The Death tolls of the fight were:
CSS: nine dead, 19 wounded
Rebels: 47 dead, none left alive

We are now taking this fight more seriously with Coyote VTUAV's scanning the country-side.

In other news seismologists are picking up light activity underneath our borders. As if small mines are being constructed. More will come on this situation.
Permalink
| November 25, 2010, 6:12 pm
If you're not watching Tanksgiving on the Military channel, I advise you do so. Because this next thing I learned from it.

Spain has declassified plans to make a so called "Plastic Tank" for deployment speeds unheard of in warfare before. It will be made out of carbon fiber, which is incredibly strong and incredibly light. The planned weight is to be under 18 tons, making it able to be airlifted by a helicopter. Although technically an IFV, such a vehicle takes the modern blitzkrieg up a notch.

Also, this makes it undetectable by radar and heatseekers.
Permalink
| November 25, 2010, 6:32 pm
Quoting Evan Melick
Bummed I missed that. Name of said tank by any chance?


It's under development by the UK currently, forgot the companies name. There's no much info on it, but I have a recent photo of it, lemme get the linky.

EDIT: Here it is http://www.flickr.com/photos/qinetiq/4638765397/. Built by Qinetiq.
Permalink
| November 25, 2010, 9:58 pm
 Group admin 
A raid today by UFS counter-terrorism teams in Finland today resulted in the busting of a group of (drunk) Finns protesting the unification of Finland and Sweden (apparently they hate Sweden). These men were revealed to have had several Molotov cocktails as well as a few old Assault Rifles. They are being processed on various weapon possession charges, and an investigation is ongoing to see if we can get any terror-related charges.

I am reassessing relations with all countries, including my closest allies, to see what exactly their agenda is, and if it truly benefits the UFS. This review will also include countries that we do not have any formal relations with.
Permalink
| November 25, 2010, 10:04 pm
 Group admin 
Quoting Awesome-o-saurus The Not-So-Great
Bing-Xiang.


XD refrigerator helicopter.

Permalink
| November 25, 2010, 10:07 pm
The Mexican Campaign is drawing to a close. Operation Hornets Nest, which consisted of 20 Apache longbows and 30 Black Hawks. Striking the center of the Mexican resistance and eliminating their highest ranking officers, was a complete success. Mexico has finally surrendered. Supplies will be sent to rebuild.
Permalink
| November 25, 2010, 10:52 pm
Quoting Finn C-Q
Oh sorry, I didn't know you were Indonesia, okay, i'll drop that one then.

If I were you, I'd drop all of them. I have plans to eventually take most of the countries you mentioned, and I won't hesitate in still going ahead and taking them if you do occupy them. Btw what is the UKS?
Permalink
| November 25, 2010, 10:57 pm
Quoting Evan Melick
Ahh, the ACAVP. Vickers means it to be very lightweight, as you already know. However, the armor is not meant to be any new super material. It's goal is to create a new major force in the Airborne array of weapons: "The answer was to develop a vehicle with at least the same protective capabilities as those currently in use, but light enough to be airlifted easily at short notice."

It also weighs 24 tons, not 18.

I got my hopes up too. D:


I know it isn't revolutionarily strong, but for it's weight it's strong. And 24 tons is the one that was in 2005. The one not made with carbon fiber.
Permalink
| November 25, 2010, 11:43 pm
In Oklahoma, the PCU has reached the outskirts of Oklahoma City and its suburbs. Civilians are being urged to leave the city before tomorrow night, when the PCU will begin their siege.

In Nevada, a pre-arranged deal with our Neighbors to the East finally was closed. After intense debate with the government of Nevada, we have been allowed access with their support. Las Vegas, Carson City, and Reno have been secured as of now, but the rest has been left to PCU/Nevada Coalition forces.
Permalink
| November 25, 2010, 11:52 pm
 Group moderator 
Quoting Matt Hacker

XD refrigerator helicopter.


Translate the names of my Roman gear from Greek into English. See what happens.

Oh, has anyone heard about the substance by the name of graphene, perchance? Besides Nick, he heard it from me.
Permalink
| November 26, 2010, 12:30 am
In Venezuela today a force of 200 Airbornes were given the task of securing Tumeremo. After multiple attempts to organize themselves, the Venezuelans surrendered. While that attack was going on a large force of 2,000 infantrymen and 200 tanks stormed into San Fernando. The city was taken and the enemys that didn't surrender were either killed or captured.
Casualties-
Brazilians:
6 killed
22 Wounded
5 MIA
Enemy:
50 Killed
35 Wounded
17 Captured
Permalink
| November 26, 2010, 8:16 am
 Group moderator 
Quoting Ham N' Biscuits


Since a couple weeks have gone by, have I taken delivery of the carrier yet? I must confess I haven't read back that far.
Permalink
| November 26, 2010, 12:06 pm
Quoting Ultramarine .
Quoting Ham N' Biscuits


Since a couple weeks have gone by, have I taken delivery of the carrier yet? I must confess I haven't read back that far.


The weeklong training session for your mariners have been commencing since Tuesday, the ship was delivered monday.
Permalink
| November 26, 2010, 12:36 pm
Quoting Will G.
The Confederate States Air Force would like to take part in the Red Flag Alaska Operation. May I ship my men over in C-130's after Thanksgiving Holiday? I will also be providing all my own aircraft, however I will need special training with the Blackfish.


After the holiday works for me. I have eight certified instructors for the Blackfish, and many more who are capable of flying the machine. Since it's a two-seat aircraft, I'll be able to train your pilots as much as they need. The software on the Blackfish may take some getting-used to, especially for pilots who fly in older aircraft such as the F-15. Many of the screens, including radar, are touch screens, allowing you to zoom in or lock targets with ease and deadly precision. The controls are also ultra-sensitive, due to the Blackfish's fly-by-wire systems and large control surfaces, not to mention blistering speed.

I could get your pilots experience dogfighting against F-22s, F-27s, and Blackfish, with my certified instructors in the back seat talking them through the whole encounter. After the event, your pilots should know the strengths and weaknesses of the Blackfish to the point where any engagement with hostile aircraft will result in success, whether that means shooting them down or getting away safely.

Also, the Garcia Software under development has passed military standards and is scheduled to be installed on F-22s, F-27s, and F-1s. The same technology has also been installed on an AMRAAM-sized missile. I'll tell you more about it later on FM.
Permalink
| November 26, 2010, 2:42 pm
 Group moderator 
Windtunnel tests have started for the air superiority fighter, prototype production to begin shortly, Northrop Grumman leading the project.

Montana is still deliberating. Things are expected to go our way. The port works are mostly done in Texas.

The rigs are nearly completion as well for the joint venture with the PCU.

Quoting Ham N' Biscuits

The weeklong training session for your mariners have been commencing since Tuesday, the ship was delivered monday.

Ah, thank you!
Permalink
| November 27, 2010, 1:04 am
 Group admin 
Second Prototype attack helicopter has been completed. Trials with it are commencing in Sweden.

The diplomatic review is also nearing completion, but the gist of it has been done.

Iceland has expressed interest in expanding diplomatic options with us, including allowing the use of harbors there (with the strict provision that no warships are stationed). Analysts in the UFS have concluded that Iceland appears to be eager to expand trade with us, and are opening up after cooled initial tensions.


Permalink
| November 27, 2010, 1:13 am
Last night, after the deadline for Cape Verdian surrender passed, the invasion began.

1st Battalion Marines landed on the Island Santiago, the countries largest island. They headed towards Praia, the capitol, where they meet the first resistance. Several ancient T-54s rode out, but a drone strike silenced two, and ground forces took out several more with anti-tank weapons. The main objective was to take Praia International airport. The area was secured in less than 30 minutes of fighting. It seems the enemy has taken to the rugged terrain. In the mean time the marines are regrouping to take the rest of the island.

2nd Marines also landed on Santa Antao, the second largest island, and the largest in the Barlavento islands. They swiftly took the airport there, not too much resistance on this island. However, we suspect they are hiding in the mountains, too scared to fight directly.
Permalink
| November 27, 2010, 2:17 pm
 Group admin 
The UFS Diplomatic review is complete, and foreign policy is being changed to represent the findings.

General review highlights:
- The powers coming out of the US are not to be trusted
- Takeover of the Panama Canal is a severe global trade issue, and the countries responsible will be seen as threats
- Expansionist and generally wayward South-Eastern Hemisphere powers cannot be trusted either, and we will make no attempts of diplomatic relations with them
- Several (so far unnamed) European powers are seen as risk to UFS trade and policy will reflect a more cautious diplomatic engagements with them

Other updates include upgrade to thermal optics on ground vehicles, and the upgrades to all aircraft are at 20%.
Permalink
| November 27, 2010, 4:01 pm
 Group moderator 
Quoting Matt Hacker

- Expansionist and generally wayward South-Eastern Hemisphere powers cannot be trusted either, and we will make no attempts of diplomatic relations with them


Hey, I'm just getting my land back. You'd be doing the exact same thing if you were in my position.

Updates of the day:
-Fujian puts up a fierce fight, but only the southern quarter is still standing against us.
-Jiangxi has pockets of resistance left, those will be mopped up over the following week.
-Hunan is the next target, who knows how long that will take.
-Production of the stuff goes along as normal. About ten Miantiao's have been produced in the past few weeks, somewhere around 24 HAT-1 Mk. IIs, and 5 HAH-2s.
Permalink
| November 27, 2010, 5:02 pm
Sorry I haven't been around much to give updates.

I'll give a brief summary of events this past week.

- Most of Borneo have surrendered. They were severely outnumbered from the moment our chinooks arrived.
- Total KIA/MIA count for the Indo Union from the Borneo invasion: 226. Total enemy soldiers killed: 2390, plus another 10000+ taken POWs.
- We think the remaining resistance will flee into the tiny nation next to Borneo, called Brunei, where they would be safe for the moment

On other news:
- the Malaysian government has decided to join the fast growing Indo Union, in return for a share of the Timor oil supplies. In return they will become part of us, and contribute their military to our cause.

Overall, it is a good time for the IU

More updates later, but for now, we are going to rebuild our strained economy, and start trading with other nations our materials.
Permalink
| November 27, 2010, 5:26 pm
 Group admin 
Quoting Awesome-o-saurus The Not-So-Great

Hey, I'm just getting my land back. You'd be doing the exact same thing if you were in my position.


Don't worry, I was not mentioning you. And yes, I would have taken back all of China as well.
Permalink
| November 27, 2010, 5:38 pm
 Group moderator 
Quoting Matt Hacker

Don't worry, I was not mentioning you. And yes, I would have taken back all of China as well.


So I see. Then who were you talking about in the East... Finn?
Permalink
| November 27, 2010, 5:42 pm
Quoting Awesome-o-saurus The Not-So-Great

So I see. Then who were you talking about in the East... Finn?

What is the UKS? I mean what country?
Permalink
| November 27, 2010, 5:46 pm
Kyrghizstan: resistance is almost completely quashed. There are, admittedly, some few remnants of the old regime's military still acting as bandits, but they have very little equipment and will likely be brought down within the next few months. The population is, of course, very happy at the recent changes, partially helped by the new Contentment Laws.

Quoting danny morgan
What is the UKS? I mean what country?

Finn's United Korean States, IIRC.

Quoting Awesome-o-saurus The Not-So-Great
So I see. Then who were you talking about in the East... Finn?

Probably everyone's favorite mid-Asian ex-dystopia.
Permalink
| November 27, 2010, 6:18 pm
Quoting Matt Hacker
- Takeover of the Panama Canal is a severe global trade issue, and the countries responsible will be seen as threats

I can assure you that the Canal will be open to trade at all times rain or shine. As on the threat part, I have no intention to attack any other nations, other than the NPCs of Course.
Permalink
| November 27, 2010, 7:31 pm
Troops are beginning to be cycled in Mexico to provide security, while rebuilding of infrastructure continues.

Mexico's remaining military gear is being evaluated for uses in the ACU.
Permalink
| November 27, 2010, 8:55 pm
Quoting Areetsa C
Finn's United Korean States, IIRC.

Quoting Awesome-o-saurus The Not-So-Great
So I see. Then who were you talking about in the East... Finn?

Probably everyone's favorite mid-Asian ex-dystopia.

IIRC? What do you mean by ex-dystopia?
Permalink
| November 27, 2010, 11:08 pm
Quoting Matt Hacker
The UFS Diplomatic review is complete, and foreign policy is being changed to represent the findings.

General review highlights:
- The powers coming out of the US are not to be trusted
- Takeover of the Panama Canal is a severe global trade issue, and the countries responsible will be seen as threats
- Expansionist and generally wayward South-Eastern Hemisphere powers cannot be trusted either, and we will make no attempts of diplomatic relations with them
- Several (so far unnamed) European powers are seen as risk to UFS trade and policy will reflect a more cautious diplomatic engagements with them

Other updates include upgrade to thermal optics on ground vehicles, and the upgrades to all aircraft are at 20%.

Hey, I'm trustworthy...
Permalink
| November 27, 2010, 11:13 pm
Quoting danny morgan
If I were you, I'd drop all of them. I have plans to eventually take most of the countries you mentioned, and I won't hesitate in still going ahead and taking them if you do occupy them. Btw what is the UKS?

Sigh...
Permalink
| November 28, 2010, 9:35 am
Quoting Finn C-Q
Sigh...


See, I told you this one was no good. On the subject, has no one else noticed that he just annexed Malaysia in a day, and magically ran over the Borneo military? Too bad I'm not a mod, he has been the most unrealistic of them all, these conquests shall one day come back to haunt him.

Spain time

Sao Santoa: Only a handful of resistance was found in the mountains, but enough to cause problems. A prolonged firefight occured between marines and Cape Verdian forces. It lasted about 90 minutes, with the ill-trained enemies running out of ammunition(They wasted it).
Marines casualties for Day 1, Sao Santao
3 dead(Fire,fight was at a range, enemies armed with AKMs)
12 wounded, 1 seriously wounded and flown back to nearest hospital.

Santiago:
Marines forces worked to secure the capitol of Praoa, and found that the Cape Verdian military had recruited some young men and armed them with AKMs, instructing them to fight the Spanish forces. Marines only controlled a small portion of the city at the end of the day, it seems this is the most organized resistance in the country. Despite small gains, the airport being controlled allows the ability to land more troops in.
1st Marine casualies for Day 1:
11 Dead
33 wounded, none in serious condition

The Cape Verdians have lost a significant amount of men on both islands, and on Santiago 7 T-54s were destroyed early on.

Permalink
| November 28, 2010, 12:00 pm
Quoting Ham N' Biscuits

See, I told you this one was no good. On the subject, has no one else noticed that he just annexed Malaysia in a day, and magically ran over the Borneo military? Too bad I'm not a mod, he has been the most unrealistic of them all, these conquests shall one day come back to haunt him.

Told me this group was not good? Also, his army is way small compaired to mine... Sho...
Permalink
| November 28, 2010, 12:06 pm
 Group moderator 
Quoting Finn C-Q
The UKS have decided to ask Vietnam, Thailand, Philippines, Malaysia, and Indonesia to join our forces due to us all being smaller countries.

First off, Indonesia and Malaysia are already either claimed by another group member already, or in he process of being invaded already.

Second, you better be prepared to take months to annex these countries, because we're not putting up with your single day annexation like last time.
Permalink
| November 28, 2010, 4:14 pm
 Group moderator 
I have been gone for Thaksgiving, but I am back now.

First off, I am now going to make a stance for the Baltic Union, and explain something.

We will now cease expansionist policy, and deal with our own territory right now. Holland is being dealt with, a any number of people there might decide hat they don't want to be a part of our Union, so further incorporation strategies are in order. We plan to show all the Dutch people haw great of a nation we are to become, and so we are scheduling air shows and the like for their entertainment.

The Dutch military is being incorporated, and the navy is being brought together with what navy we already had to form more cohesive units. We will do joint exercises to familiarize both ourselves and Dutch sailors with new people and new ships.

More news on the Terrorist attack has been uncovered, while we continue to dig out the Dutch head of state. The group (Red Hand) does not appear to have acted of its own accord, rather, we believe someone must have hired them, someone with a rather strong reason to oppose us, and someone with quite a bit of money. More to follow.
Permalink
| November 28, 2010, 4:40 pm
 Group moderator 
Quoting Matt Hacker
The UFS Diplomatic review is complete, and foreign policy is being changed to represent the findings.

General review highlights:
- The powers coming out of the US are not to be trusted

Excuse me?

Fine, I noz will trusts u anywho!
Permalink
| November 28, 2010, 4:44 pm
I am a South Carolinian, and you could not believe how happy I am right now. USC (South Carolina, not Southern California!)-29,
Clemson-7. Yes! The Gamecocks have done it again! Auburn is next! :) To the SEC we go!!

Anyway, that was all spam, how about some news for Australia.

Our fleet is being moved to Christmas Island and the Cocos Islands. But the invasion of Sri Lanka has been canceled. It has been decided too risky, since it is that close to India. The Solomon Islands is going our next target, and a plan is being created for that invasion, knowing it will take months to capture.
Permalink
| November 28, 2010, 5:02 pm
Quoting Thomas N
First off, Indonesia and Malaysia are already either claimed by another group member already, or in he process of being invaded already.

Second, you better be prepared to take months to annex these countries, because we're not putting up with your single day annexation like last time.
You should talk to Danny, he's been doing those kinds of conquests. Also, I read the bl00dy rules, I know that, you haven't seen me doing that, now have you?

Permalink
| November 28, 2010, 5:26 pm
 Group admin 
Quoting Matt P

Clemson > USC; regardless of score. I'm just sayin'.

Anyhow, the Third Chechen War has hit both sides quite hard thus far into the conflict. Coalition artillery barrages continue to pound designated targets into fine powder. However, field COs have done a terrible job in pressing the early advantage. IIPU forces have, as expected, initiated a guerrilla war. Firefights have erupted quite near to forward Federation patrols leaving a wake of casualties. Enemy mortar strikes have also struck key progression objectives (road junctures, rail lines, etc.) in an attempt to keep the fighting at the borders.

In retaliation to these pocketed battles, the Federation Air Force has launched a number of CAS and bombing sorties to eliminate suspected areas of conflict. This is to say, any areas in which may likely host enemy militants is a prime area to be neutralized. Although this raises the collateral damage tag by some measure, these preemptive strikes will in all hopes reduce the price tag on friendly forces.

At any rate, dense armour has been kept away from the fray seeing as though the environs are quite narrow and hostile. The only armour bits being pushed through are those performing supportive roles for convoys and mobilizing artillery.

Also, because of the negative ties between Georgia and Russia, the former has formally declared full support, just short of military interdiction, for the Caucasus Republic. Thus, Georgia will likely be feeding the latter a great deal of supplies and lend-lease agents of the military variety. If any persons likely of Georgian origin are found fighting in alignment with said governance, quite a few consequences come into play in which may lead to a secondary conflict with the flaunting state.
Permalink
| November 28, 2010, 6:24 pm
 Group moderator 
Quoting Finn C-Q
Quoting Thomas N
First off, Indonesia and Malaysia are already either claimed by another group member already, or in he process of being invaded already.

Second, you better be prepared to take months to annex these countries, because we're not putting up with your single day annexation like last time.
You should talk to Danny, he's been doing those kinds of conquests. Also, I read the bl00dy rules, I know that, you haven't seen me doing that, now have you?

Danny is another matter entirely, he is trying to reunite Indonesia, which is different than "approaching" five seperate countries with the full intent of annexing them.

People have said it before, and I'll say it now, this group is not a lace for empires. So you shouldn't be trying to take over the majority of Southeast Asia.

And Danny, that applies to you too. I'm fine with you taking all the Indonesian islands, but you have no place making a massive empire out of Indochina.
Permalink
| November 28, 2010, 6:36 pm
 Group admin 
After four weeks of construction, the first two Type-2 Guided Missile Cruisers have been completed. The ships, named NDV Skandinavien and NDV Stockholm, are about to be launched, but the Stockholm will be retained in drydock while it is fitted with the very first prototype radar/missile set of the joint UFS-Russian Anti-ASBM system. This will take a few additional days to install, and the tests will be performed over a two week time.
Permalink
| November 28, 2010, 6:48 pm
 Group moderator 
The WC has still not heard anything from their eastern neighbors about Mexico, and has shipped another two battalions to southern Texas and New Mexico.

The first prototypes of the air superiority have been built: http://mocpages.com/moc.php/229276. Featuring only a 25mm cannon, not 23mm. Speaking of which, the two prototype turrets have faced off against each other for the newer M1A5 MBT. The 30mm coaxial gun has been chosen over the 35mm. Production will begin post haste at 5 plants across the nation. 500 have been ordered, 200 of which are refitted M1A2s.

Montana is still under deliberations, the governor is up for elections in two weeks, the Western Confederation has threatened to back his opponent with heavy financial investment if he doesn't push this through in time.
Permalink
| November 28, 2010, 7:00 pm
 Group admin 
Quoting Ultramarine .

Montana is still under deliberations, the governor is up for elections in two weeks, the Western Confederation has threatened to back his opponent with heavy financial investment if he doesn't push this through in time.


I believe that is very very illegal, even without a central government >.>
I wouldn't be surprised if your candidate lost because he was being paid by a separate nation....
Permalink
| November 28, 2010, 7:03 pm
 Group moderator 
Quoting Matt Hacker

I believe that is very very illegal, even without a central government >.>
I wouldn't be surprised if your candidate lost because he was being paid by a separate nation....

Who says anyone has to know about it there? I can say that because it's from my viewpoint. How many didn't know about the backroom deals between Hitler and Quisling?

...Not that I'm Nazi Germany. I'm just out to unite the front range. Not in an impirical manner, either. National defense reasons.
Permalink
| November 28, 2010, 7:10 pm
Venezuela: The troops took large amounts of land this Thanksgiving weekend. Troops operating out of Tumeremo advanced south to El Dorado (Yes, it is a city, but not of gold) and took moderate casualties from Guerillas. The troops out of San Frenando advanced east and met up with the others around 2:00 Local time. They proceeded into clearing the city of any resistance and took out 3 tanks and disabled around 4. As for the Airforce, they encountered another squadron of F16s today and were able to take them down. There are a few aces coming out of this war although the official casualty count was issued today. 6 Shot down, 11 critically damaged and 6 missing. The toll on the men is as follows: 13 Killed, 23 wounded, and 8 MIA. Ground forces will be issued soon. It is expected that the jungle up to the Orinco river will be secured by Wednesday.
Permalink
| November 28, 2010, 7:11 pm
 Group moderator 
Quoting Brendan Dore

Anyways, Brendonia is seeking a trade agreement with several Asian nations, including Awe's Peeps, Korea, and maybe anyone else in the region. Reply if you agree, and we can work out the details.


What kind of trade agreement?

The haps in China:
Same as last time, more stuff produced, a bit of ground gained.
Permalink
| November 28, 2010, 7:16 pm
 Group moderator 
Quoting Brendan Dore
Ya' know a... a... trade agreement. Like we both agree for the protection of trade routes along our borders, or somethin' like that.

Sounds like my agreement with Alaska, more like 'For future reference.'
Permalink
| November 28, 2010, 7:20 pm
 Group moderator 
Quoting Brendan Dore
Ya' know a... a... trade agreement. Like we both agree for the protection of trade routes along our borders, or somethin' like that.


Hmm... I'll think on it. I'm a bit wary of everyone right now. This is a delicate period of development.
Permalink
| November 28, 2010, 7:22 pm
Quoting Finn C-Q
IIRC? What do you mean by ex-dystopia?

If I Recall Correctly, and ex-dystopia meaning that I came to power after the former totalitarian government of the Alenian Confederation collapsed. We used to have quite a bit of Uzbekistan, too, but couldn't govern it properly at the time. Anyway, it takes a while to de-Orwellize a state. You don't go from "Prime Minister Knows Best" to "We've Got More Important Things To Do Than Control Everyone's Lives" in a week, or month, or possibly even a year.
Permalink
| November 28, 2010, 7:25 pm
 Group admin 
Quoting Ultramarine .


I have Wikileaks on my side! /Wikileaks secret funding ;)

I also forgot to mention that the prototype Allegiance Class GMD has been completed, and the prototype vessel, NDV Allegiance, has been launched as well (pics on my profile).
Permalink
| November 28, 2010, 7:29 pm
Quoting Ultramarine .
The WC has still not heard anything from their eastern neighbors about Mexico, and has shipped another two battalions to southern Texas and New Mexico.

Actually I made a couple posts earlier about how resistance in Mexico is nearly non-existent. Rebuilding has commenced, and the few protesters are being quited down.

Permalink
| November 28, 2010, 7:46 pm
Quoting Matt Hacker
The UFS Diplomatic review is complete, and foreign policy is being changed to represent the findings.

General review highlights:
- The powers coming out of the US are not to be trusted
- Takeover of the Panama Canal is a severe global trade issue, and the countries responsible will be seen as threats

You cannot trust me?
You sound like an isolationist now.
Permalink
| November 28, 2010, 8:20 pm
The CSS has seized control of the Southeastern wikileaks domain and made it illegal here in the South.
Permalink
| November 28, 2010, 8:26 pm
 Group admin 
Quoting Will G.
You cannot trust me?
You sound like an isolationist now.


Meh. More like I'm trying to keep things interesting, rather than the policies of being friendly to everyone and having massive defense pacts that resulted in the last group becoming rather stale (for most people). No one should be offended by my review, rather, it reflects the direction that I want my country to go this time around. This time around I intend on being more isolationist, and perhaps even a bit more aggressive in the future.
Permalink
| November 28, 2010, 8:33 pm
In The Commonwealth...

The classified MULBERY radar system is nearing has reached the testing phase. So far in tests it has been able to detect the F-35 A fighter 3/5 times at a range of 175 miles. These results are very promising and hopefully with a little bit of tweaking the design will be even better. For now Parliament has only approved The Royal Navy to purchase the system to replace the SAMPSON radar system on the Type-45 Destroyer and to let every ship that is currently in production or that has been ordered to be fitted with it. The production of the first 4 Recluse-Class Guided-Missile Cruiser is nearing production, and the unexpected fitting of its new radar will push production back by another week. So if all goes well the first ship, HMS Recluse will be completed next week. Finally Parliament has given the go-ahead for the design of a new class of destroyer, focused more on ground support.

BTW it's more like
Auburn>Clemson>USC>Notre Dame
Permalink
| November 28, 2010, 8:44 pm
Quoting henry wang

BTW it's more like
Auburn>Clemson>USC>Notre Dame

No no no...
TCU>All
Permalink
| November 28, 2010, 10:12 pm
With the downfall of the Southeastern Domain of Wiki-Leaks, we have loaned money into their Western Domain to keep it running.

In Portland, 50 Mk. II HAT-1s have been produced and are being sent to Garrisons across the PCU's Lands to keep our bases stocked in case of emergencies.

In Oklahoma, Oklahoma City was not attacked as we let the civilians celebrate Thanksgiving. We're not all bad.

In a UFS style review, we have concluded that the Southeastern states are not to be trusted. That is all.
Permalink
| November 28, 2010, 10:16 pm
With all the talk of wikileaks, if any sensitive material is posted, the owner and those who supplied the materials shall be charged with treason.
Permalink
| November 28, 2010, 10:22 pm
 Group moderator 
The Kaoxiang government offers full support to Wikileaks. Because we have contacts with them.

>.>

Seriously, y'all banning free speech. One might say that's...
/puts on sunglasses
...Un-American.
/YYYEEEAAAAAHH

Ten points to whomever understands why that's a pun.
Permalink
| November 28, 2010, 10:34 pm
Quoting Awesome-o-saurus The Not-So-Great
The Kaoxiang government offers full support to Wikileaks. Because we have contacts with them.

>.>

Seriously, y'all banning free speech. One might say that's...
/puts on sunglasses
...Un-American.
/YYYEEEAAAAAHH

Ten points to whomever understands why that's a pun.



We're not getting fooled again are we Awe?

I agree with China.
Permalink
| November 28, 2010, 10:37 pm
 Group admin 
Quoting Awesome-o-saurus The Not-So-Great
The Kaoxiang government offers full support to Wikileaks. Because we have contacts with them.

>.>

Seriously, y'all banning free speech. One might say that's...
/puts on sunglasses
...Un-American.
/YYYEEEAAAAAHH

Ten points to whomever understands why that's a pun.


I have two answers to that
1) The glasses were probably made in China >.>
2) Thats just like the Red Scare of the 50's where if you even explored anything related to socialism, (like you lived in a co-op dorm room) you would be immediately accused of being un-American even though you were limiting their freedom of speech.
Permalink
| November 28, 2010, 10:40 pm
Quoting Ham N' Biscuits

See, I told you this one was no good. On the subject, has no one else noticed that he just annexed Malaysia in a day, and magically ran over the Borneo military? Too bad I'm not a mod, he has been the most unrealistic of them all, these conquests shall one day come back to haunt him.


this is not true, I've been planning the invasion of Borneo for several weeks, and no i did not invade them in one day. I was too busy to give updates for nearly a week during the invasion. And negotiations with Malaysia have been going on since I joined this group.

I can't see where I've gone wrong...
Permalink
| November 28, 2010, 10:43 pm
The Southeastern Confederacy will copy the UFS with our review of world powers:

-The PCU is not to be trusted
-China is not to be trusted
-Any countries affiliated with the PCU are misguided, misinformed or not to be trusted
-Cuba is good
-The Midwest is a potential ally, if they do not become brainwashed by the Westernmost portion of the continent
-The people to the North are good
-Europe stays out of our cr*p we stay out of their's.
-Asia is neutral
-Australia is not bad.
Permalink
| November 28, 2010, 10:44 pm
 Group moderator 
Quoting Matt Hacker

I have two answers to that
1) The glasses were probably made in China >.>
2) Thats just like the Red Scare of the 50's where if you even explored anything related to socialism, (like you lived in a co-op dorm room) you would be immediately accused of being un-American even though you were limiting their freedom of speech.


1: Well, they were, but that's besides the point.
2: Close, close...

Permalink
| November 28, 2010, 10:45 pm
Quoting Evan Melick
It's generally accepted that diplomatic annexation of countries takes between 1.5-3ish months on average, at least that's what I try to stick to. You have to give millions of people a darn good reason to give up their nation sovereignty.

really? sorry I never new this. Is a (very) large portion of the Timorese oil supplies good enough for Malaysia to want to join us?
Permalink
| November 28, 2010, 10:53 pm
 Group moderator 
Quoting Will G.
The Southeastern Confederacy will copy the UFS with our review of world powers:

-The PCU is not to be trusted
-China is not to be trusted
-Any countries affiliated with the PCU are misguided, misinformed or not to be trusted
-Cuba is good
-The Midwest is a potential ally, if they do not become brainwashed by the Westernmost portion of the continent


HYEH HYEH HYEH

Glad I'm still evil in your eyes. Maybe you're right. Nick, we have taxes to raise, churches to de-establish, and an environment to conserve for the good of all Mankind! Oh, and people to destroy.
Permalink
| November 28, 2010, 11:02 pm
Quoting Awesome-o-saurus The Not-So-Great

HYEH HYEH HYEH

Glad I'm still evil in your eyes. Maybe you're right. Nick, we have taxes to raise, churches to de-establish, and an environment to conserve for the good of all Mankind! Oh, and people to destroy.


The Inquisition approves. I hope you all didn't expect that.

Permalink
| November 28, 2010, 11:08 pm
Quoting Will G.
The Southeastern Confederacy will copy the UFS with our review of world powers:

...-Asia is neutral...

I don't like the sound of that.

Hmm...

I need to do something appropriately evil.



Who's the primary combat mod, anyone?
Permalink
| November 29, 2010, 1:01 am
Quoting Thomas N
Danny is another matter entirely, he is trying to reunite Indonesia, which is different than "approaching" five seperate countries with the full intent of annexing them.

People have said it before, and I'll say it now, this group is not a lace for empires. So you shouldn't be trying to take over the majority of Southeast Asia.

And Danny, that applies to you too. I'm fine with you taking all the Indonesian islands, but you have no place making a massive empire out of Indochina.

I just want to be able to defend myself with all these nations around me growing larger, I thought asking(not invading) for these other small nations to join is a good idea
Permalink
| November 29, 2010, 7:54 am
Quoting Areetsa C
"Prime Minister Knows Best"

Please take day off
Permalink
| November 29, 2010, 7:58 am
 Group admin 
The the UFS military is undergoing a standardization program currently. We are cooperating with H&K to design a new 6.8 service rifle aesthetically based on the failed XM8 (but it will not include the XM8s failures). Production of these weapons will be localized in Finland.

Upgrades to C5As are complete at this time, and then new thermal optics are proving excellent. Research and design of the next-gen composite armor is going well, but very slowly (10% completion). Improved tank ammunition is proving slightly easier to develop, with a 25% completion rate.

While everyone loves military research, the civil sector cannot be ignored. We have begun to standardize taxes among all member countries, which may upset the countries that pay lower taxes, and may face an increase. However, the perks of this tax include updating the eductation system (we are adopting the Finnish stance of free state university eductation), while also trying to update and expand infastructure, especially in relatively underdeveloped Finland. A new major highway is in the design stages to create a very easy link between all three countries, and this road will be similar to the Autobahn having no speed limit on certain sections of the road. Along this topic, Saab has been issued a contract to develop a zero-fossil fuel car. Research is expected to last a very, very long time.
Permalink
| November 29, 2010, 8:36 am
 Group moderator 
Quoting Matt Hacker

I have Wikileaks on my side! /Wikileaks secret funding ;)


Well, I could just jam them. But who's to say the foul fiend still exists?

Quoting John Dawn
Actually I made a couple posts earlier about how resistance in Mexico is nearly non-existent. Rebuilding has commenced, and the few protesters are being quited down.

I was thinking more along the lines of you not coming within 50 miles of my borders? You know, that little condition that I may have been willing to go to war with you over? Might have been within your best interests to respond too...
Permalink
| November 29, 2010, 3:18 pm
Quoting Ultramarine .
I was thinking more along the lines of you not coming within 50 miles of my borders? You know, that little condition that I may have been willing to go to war with you over? Might have been within your best interests to respond too...
I did respond to that comment, I believe you may have missed it.

Permalink
| November 29, 2010, 3:52 pm
Quoting Will G.
No no no...
TCU>All

Come on guys, in the sad reality its actually...
Oregon>all. Even though no one here likes Oregon I bet and no one wants to admit it.
Permalink
| November 29, 2010, 4:33 pm
Quoting Brendan Dore
They and Boise State don't deserve uber-high rankings. They play bad teams in unknown conferences. For me to respect them, they need to play good teams in good conferences, like Oregon or Wisconsin.


You all be trolling. It's MSU. Really great year, those wolverine fools got nothing on us. Legit.
Permalink
| November 29, 2010, 4:47 pm
 Group admin 
Come on guys, splease dont just make comments soley on college football. At least include some kind of update for you nation.
Permalink
| November 29, 2010, 4:53 pm
In the ACU...

Government spending is shifting to green energy such as CO2 and hydrogen.
http://edition.cnn.com/2008/TECH/science/10/08/co2.fuel/index.html
Permalink
| November 29, 2010, 5:02 pm
 Group moderator 
Quoting John Dawn
I did respond to that comment, I believe you may have missed it.

So you're not within 50 miles of my borders, right?
Permalink
| November 29, 2010, 5:06 pm
Quoting Awesome-o-saurus The Not-So-Great
The Kaoxiang government offers full support to Wikileaks. Because we have contacts with them.

>.>

Seriously, y'all banning free speech. One might say that's...
/puts on sunglasses
...Un-American.
/YYYEEEAAAAAHH

Ten points to whomever understands why that's a pun.


The sunglasses are a reference to Kim Jong-Il; one whom is very much against freedom of speech.
Permalink
| November 29, 2010, 5:09 pm
In the Confederation: we've been paying very careful attention to the Russians. Because we don't trust them. But we don't really trust anyone as it is.
Permalink
| November 29, 2010, 5:12 pm
Quoting Ultramarine .
So you're not within 50 miles of my borders, right?

No military forces are, but we do share a boarder now, I'm rebuilding the destroyed sections in the Southwest of Mexico currently.
Permalink
| November 29, 2010, 6:07 pm
Quoting Ultramarine .
I was thinking more along the lines of you not coming within 50 miles of my borders? You know, that little condition that I may have been willing to go to war with you over? Might have been within your best interests to respond too...

War in North America?
The South fully supports the Western Confederation IF this war occurs. Why? Because Ultramarine is cool. :P

Seriously though.
The South has seen more frequent surrenders of Venezuelans today since we took half of Caracas. Once again the collapses of building has halted our push through the modern district.
Permalink
| November 29, 2010, 6:46 pm
 Group moderator 
Quoting Matt P
Come on guys, in the sad reality its actually...
Oregon>all. Even though no one here likes Oregon I bet and no one wants to admit it.


Oregon is legit. In every way. Because I live there.


Quoting henry wang

The sunglasses are a reference to Kim Jong-Il; one whom is very much against freedom of speech.


No, not really. The sunglasses and YEAH are a reference to one of the CSI shows.

In China:
-Things go slowly on the front. The population density and greater numbers of PRC supporters slow us down.
-Production of the stuff continues. As the numbers stand, I'm gonna go with 15 total Miantiao's, 30 total HAT-1 Mk. IIs, and 20 total HAH-2s.

Permalink
| November 29, 2010, 6:56 pm
 Group admin 
The first squadron [12 aircraft] of updated Su-34s has taken to the air today. This is actually the first air squadron that has thus been modified to fit new Federation standards, but surely not the last. Hopefully, the re-modernization process will pick up some pace so our eastern flanks may be covered with fairly capable aircraft.

On note of the latter, the re-tooling is roughly half-there for the production of the Su-51. We're looking at at least two more weeks or so for the first factory to put together the first complete airframe. Along with the new plane class, a new experimental munitions class will hit the production frames as well; more on this later.

Finally, the Russian Federation will be returning the eye upon our Confederation neighbors to the south. You sure go a purty mouth.
Permalink
| November 29, 2010, 7:51 pm
 Group moderator 
Quoting John Dawn
No military forces are, but we do share a boarder now, I'm rebuilding the destroyed sections in the Southwest of Mexico currently.

I must respectfully request that you withdraw your borders to the specified distance, and the establishment of a DMZ occur. I must also request that you cease and desist your rebuilding efforts, I will reimburse you for materials lost in the withdrawal.

Quoting Will G.
War in North America?
The South fully supports the Western Confederation IF this war occurs. Why? Because Ultramarine is cool. :P

Why thank you!
Permalink
| November 29, 2010, 9:45 pm
 Group moderator 
Forgive the double-posting.

In the Western Confederation on the civilian side, the old highways that were in disrepair are being patched up by the stabilized civilian governments. A flat tax has been voted in by all but Texas, since they had revised and simplified their tax codes years ago. The new 20% tax rate is based only on income, no property or 'death' taxes.

On the energy side, several green groups approached the WC leaders requesting funding for 'clean' energy sources to cut down on so called 'greenhouse' gases. Seems at this point some still actually believe in 'Global Warming'. Since the generals had an inkling of scientific knowledge, they were laughed out of the capital. However, some civilian companies are investigating condensed solar farms, so as to maximize output & efficiency without scarring the landscape with their unsightly presence. Several nuclear power plants are under construction, since the uranium mining recommenced recently. Refining should take little time.

On the military front, development of the air superiority fighter continues, since the final design was chosen. The first set of 10 turrets was retrofitted to be upgraded to the M1A5. Five original models have been produced for a total of 15. The armor has also been upgraded in the prescribed manner.
Permalink
| November 29, 2010, 11:43 pm
 Group moderator 
Quoting Awesome-o-saurus The Not-So-Great
The Kaoxiang government offers full support to Wikileaks. Because we have contacts with them.

>.>

Seriously, y'all banning free speech. One might say that's...
/puts on sunglasses
...Un-American.
/YYYEEEAAAAAHH

Ten points to whomever understands why that's a pun.

You're not too subtle, are you Horatio?
Permalink
| November 29, 2010, 11:56 pm
Today, amidst the invasion, the King and the Prime Minister were pleased to announce plans to reverse the decisions made in the 2000s, which phased out of nuclear energy in renewables. Considered to be the most efficient of all energy sources, new sites have already started construction, but their nature has been concealed from the public. Hopefully, this will rid Spain of all dependance on oil for electricity, and will grant more reserves to the military. Also mentioned was a plan for a long distance rail to reduce cars on the roads, and tax benefits to city goers who do not use cars.
Permalink
| November 30, 2010, 12:08 am
 Group moderator 
Quoting Ham N' Biscuits
Hopefully, this will rid Spain of all dependance on oil for electricity, and will grant more reserves to the military.


Uranium, you want it? It's you'rs my friend, as long as you have enough ruppees!

Quoting Thomas N
You're not too subtle, are you Horatio?


*turns around, cape billows dramatically*

OF COURSE! not.

Quoting Ultramarine .

Seems at this point some still actually believe in 'Global Warming'. Since the generals had an inkling of scientific knowledge, they were laughed out of the capital.



Technically, it'll cause more global cooling around these parts than anything. Each winter gets worse and worse here.

/starts flame war
Permalink
| November 30, 2010, 1:00 am
Quoting Ultramarine .
I must respectfully request that you withdraw your borders to the specified distance, and the establishment of a DMZ occur. I must also request that you cease and desist your rebuilding efforts, I will reimburse you for materials lost in the withdrawal.
25 miles and we have a deal.

Permalink
| November 30, 2010, 6:43 am
 Group moderator 
Quoting John Dawn
25 miles and we have a deal.

Hmmm... Very well, 25 miles it is. This map is going to look interesting...
Permalink
| November 30, 2010, 10:52 am
Quoting Ultramarine .
Hmmm... Very well, 25 miles it is. This map is going to look interesting...

Perfect, sorry about putting my reply in your comment.
Permalink
| November 30, 2010, 3:31 pm
In the CDC, our State Department has begun setting up embassies around the world. They will be fortified, and we request all Cuban citizens that are arrested abroad be taken to the nearest embassy. Work on our desalinization projects is progressing slowly, but steadily.
Also, the government of the CDC would like to make clear our official stance that we recognize Global Warming as a real occurrence, and with cooperation from several other countries our labs are beginning to produce carbon dioxide filters that must be fitted onto the exhaust pipes of all automotive vehicles registered with the DMV.
A company based out of Havana is beginning to invest into off-shore drilling in the Gulf of Mexico, and we are requiring them to have adequate reserves of "Pseudomonas putida" before setting up any oil rigs.
After receiving an anonymous tip, local law enforcement raided the headquarters and armory of the Marxist terror organization responsible for the Havana Airport attack. A total of 43 militants were arrested, and will be tried for a number of felonies, however during the raid an officer "accidentally" misfired his pistol, and one of the terrorists was found with 17 rounds of 9mm ammunition in his chest. An accident report has been filed, and may be investigated.
Congress passed a bill today granting the CDC Armed Forces a grant of $1,000,000,000 to purchase new equipment, however the annual budget was indeed lowered.

Permalink
| November 30, 2010, 4:02 pm
Where will all that filtered carbon dioxide go? There's not much you can do with it.
Permalink
| November 30, 2010, 4:14 pm
 Group admin 
The Russian Federation will presently deny the construction of a Cuban embassy in our state. We fear the CDC to be rather flaunting and shall not invest in any dedicated diplomacy at this time.

Aside from that, Russia is following en suite with our Nordic allies with the 6.8mm standard firearms conversion. Granted the Kalashnikov model is rather flexible and easily produced, the AK-20X (still curious as to what the final digit shall be) will fit a more generalized role that doesn't require either an ultra-light round (5.56/5.45mm) nor a rather cumbersome round (7.62mm). We're looking at two and half to three weeks before the first testing batch shall enter trials. In the long-haul, this will greatly increase the interoperability between our western neighbors and our selves.

In the Caucasus Republic, several Federation COs were dismissed from command after increased casualty rates were reported. These men have been labeled combat ineffective and the losses are entirely intolerable. Until a new command rank has been noted to be combat effective, no more pushes shall occur.
Permalink
| November 30, 2010, 4:28 pm
Quoting Brendan Dore
As a joking response to the CDC, Brendonian car manufacturers have begun to make a series of cars (Called the C-Series) with massive, gas-guzzling engines that will have the environmentalists rolling in their graves. This hopefully makes known Brendonia's stance on "Global Warming". Or is it "Climate Change"? Or maybe, is it "Global Cooling"?

I just pwned that topic.

C is for Cuba, right?

Permalink
| November 30, 2010, 4:46 pm
Quoting Jake H.
Where will all that filtered carbon dioxide go? There's not much you can do with it.

http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2008/05/080519092205.htm
Read that.
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/f/f4/Instrumental_Temperature_Record.png
And take the ever slightest glance at this.
Permalink
| November 30, 2010, 5:00 pm
 Group admin 
The UFS is proud to announce a joint training exercise with the Russian Federation, to be started in a week, that will take place near the Finnish-Russian border. The wargame will simulate large scaled combined arms combat, with the nations simulating combat against each other. After the exercise, there will be a week of training with each others equipment to reaffirm our desires to become strong allies. Running in parallel, our navies will be conducting similar wargames, with heavy emphasis on ASW, although it will be an exercise in which only a small mixed-nation Opfor will be in "combat" with a large mixed force.


Permalink
| November 30, 2010, 5:05 pm
Quoting Dr. Spontaneous
6.8mm standard.
Drat you all beat me to it.

Permalink
| November 30, 2010, 5:14 pm

No, where will you STORE it. The carbon doesn't disappear.
Permalink
| November 30, 2010, 5:18 pm

I already replied to the top link, and as for the bottom...that doesn't prove that there's too much carbon dioxide in the air. Just that the earth's warming. Something that's happened before.
Permalink
| November 30, 2010, 5:28 pm
 Group moderator 
The Baltic Union, in cooperation with our counterparts in Poland and Belarus, has traced the source of the funding to a Belgian bank account which was recently discovered to belong to the terrorists. By again using cooperation, and obtaining assistance from our friends in Belgium and traced the particular deposit of money, the one large enough to be specified to have paid for the operation in question, and have traced it back to one, particular source.

Steffen Bakker is a man who made his fortune in the shipping business. He gradually grew prowess and esteem in the international shipping community in the Netherlands, enough to eventually land a job as supervising manager of the large port at Rotterdam.

He was a proud Dutch Nationalist, and a habitual drug user, and it is postulated that it is for those reasons why he contracted the terrorist organization to make a statement against Baltic-Dutch cooperation against drugs. When learned that it was he, We moved quickly to freeze his assets and track him down.

Apprehended at Amsterdam Airport, he has been brought into custody and will stand trial within the week. He will face trial by a jury of Dutch peers, as opposed to a central court in Germany. We will keep his prosecution in Dutch hands to show any remaining belligerent Dutch citizens that we really are out for the greater good of the Netherlands, and that the people of the Netherlands (the body of jurors) support us in our actions.

Steffen's assets, including money and facilities of the Port of Rotterdam, have been integrated as national possessions, and we hope to use this new-found acquisition to construct new, larger, more modern naval facilities at Rotterdam.
Permalink
| November 30, 2010, 5:38 pm
Quoting Thomas N


You do realize that by banning marijuana you caused some major problems with people? Unless you're spending millions on public rehab, you condemned some people to a painful withdrawal, and it may increase suicide rates.
Permalink
| November 30, 2010, 6:20 pm
 Group admin 
To ensure strong relations with our good friends, the Russians we have decided to not allow a CDC embassy to be built in the UFS. This, and we didn't like the little Panama maneuver.
Permalink
| November 30, 2010, 6:40 pm
Quoting Ham N' Biscuits

You do realize that by banning marijuana you caused some major problems with people? Unless you're spending millions on public rehab, you condemned some people to a painful withdrawal, and it may increase suicide rates.

True, true.
Permalink
| November 30, 2010, 6:43 pm
With the arrival of all our new equiptment, the UKS have decided to parade our troop and equipment around to rouse civilians. Oh, and Diplomatic negotiations are getting tight with most of the nations we asked. With some of the more likely to say no ones, we have pulled out.
Permalink
| November 30, 2010, 6:46 pm
We politely refuse Cuban buildings being built without permission. We also laugh at Global Warming. >.>
Permalink
| November 30, 2010, 6:50 pm
I haven't done one of these in a while.
Life goes on as usual in Brazil.
-The carrier ordered by the CSS (Will G.) is nearing completion.
-A standard tax is being considered by the Governemnt.
-Refitting of factories to produce F-35, A-10 and Osσrios continues.
-Ammunition production has been doubled.
-Modernization and updating of the Panama Canal is scheduled for the second week of December to allow for business to continue it will be worked on in sections starting on the Atlantic side.
Permalink
| November 30, 2010, 6:51 pm
 Group moderator 
Quoting Ham N' Biscuits

You do realize that by banning marijuana you caused some major problems with people? Unless you're spending millions on public rehab, you condemned some people to a painful withdrawal, and it may increase suicide rates.

Rehab plans were all pushed through with the initial movement, I don't know what you're complaining about, the terrible problem of drug is gone, and now we're making the transition for the better a lot less painful.
Permalink
| November 30, 2010, 6:51 pm
Quoting Nick Shelton
We politely refuse Cuban buildings being built without permission. We also laugh at Global Warming. >.>


Yo, dog. Embassy in PCU. Naow.
Permalink
| November 30, 2010, 6:54 pm
 Group moderator 
Quoting Ham N' Biscuits

You do realize that by banning marijuana you caused some major problems with people? Unless you're spending millions on public rehab, you condemned some people to a painful withdrawal, and it may increase suicide rates.

I would say that they brought the problem on themselves by choosing to mess up their bodies with drugs in the first place, but that would be counter-intuitive, if correct.
Permalink
| November 30, 2010, 7:01 pm
 Group moderator 
Quoting Matt Hacker
To ensure strong relations with our good friends, the Russians we have decided to not allow a CDC embassy to be built in the UFS. This, and we didn't like the little Panama maneuver.

I'm going to copy this maneuver as well. I don't like how CDC just suddenly started building embassies places without asking permission first, and plus, I really don't think the CDC is going to be in a very stable economic place henceforth.

That, and I'm looking at reevaluating my positions with most f the world's powers, based on their actions thus far.
Permalink
| November 30, 2010, 7:06 pm
 Group moderator 
The results of my findings are:

The UFS may be considered our biggest friend at the moment, due to similar governing intents, trading projects, and good natured-ness on their part.

Russia seems to be exercising her great power well, and their convincing argument against empirical expansion has left us conforming to such a policy. We would like to extend the possibility of friendship.

Spain seems to be more expansionist, and their government type is unknown as yet, but their apparent theft of Baltic naval designs has led to some suspicion.

Britain, with its position to put out threatening projects (such as the anti-shipping missile bases) which may cut off our access to the Atlantic, is to be watched closely.

Italy hasn't much made its presence known, and further decisions won't be made until they do.

The Byzantines seem like a worthy nation, and we wish them luck in Bulgaria.

Brazil's move into panama may compromise international trade, and they shall be monitored for any such intentions.

The powers in Asia (excluding Brendonia) seem more like empire-bent expansionists, and shall be watched closely for a possible threat to stability in the region.

Australia should also cool off the expansion, especially with such a small military, be wary of stretching it thin.

Most of the new powers in America will be watched to see what their intentions are, so that we can better judge what sort of diplomatic individuals they might be. (especially the ACU, whose miraculously quick acquisition of Mexico is raising some eyebrows).

Alaska looks very promising as a mild, non-expansionist power, with possibility for friendship.
Permalink
| November 30, 2010, 7:26 pm
 Group moderator 
The Kaoxiang government laughs at the ignorance of the West, and states it's intention to ensure there's still a world left for it's children. The planet's ecosystem is a house of cards, if one support goes, the entire world crumbles after it. Warming is the least of our worries.

Anyways, while the Americans make God, Guns, and Oil the new law of the land, we're conquering our land back:
-All fronts advance slowly, meaning I'm short on time for writing.
-Production of stuff goes at the same pace. No wrenches have been thrown into the works yet.
-CDC, shoo.
Permalink
| November 30, 2010, 7:27 pm
 Group moderator 
Quoting Thomas N

The powers in Asia (excluding Brendonia) seem more like empire-bent expansionists, and shall be watched closely for a possible threat to stability in the region.


Oh, sure, call me out now. But if you were in my position, you'd be doing the exact same thing. Don't even deny it. The resources and economic might of current China would be wasted if I just sat with the provinces around Beijing. And we both, Thomas, are not ones to waste opportunities.
Permalink
| November 30, 2010, 7:41 pm
 Group moderator 
Quoting Awesome-o-saurus The Not-So-Great

Oh, sure, call me out now. But if you were in my position, you'd be doing the exact same thing. Don't even deny it. The resources and economic might of current China would be wasted if I just sat with the provinces around Beijing. And we both, Thomas, are not ones to waste opportunities.

Oh sorry, I forgot about you, I was thinking about Areetsa, Fin, and Danny, my humblest apologies, dear sir.
Permalink
| November 30, 2010, 7:45 pm
Meh. I have nothing better to do:

The Baltic Union seems to be everywhere in the news, and their building of 3 supercarriers is a potential threat. Remind Minister of the Navy to order more ships.

The Commonwealth is a threat aswell, building ships that are merely on paper, not the shipyard. Their unwillingness to relinquish Gibraltar back to Spain is a nuisance.

The Byzantines are a strong friend in the Mediterranean. Note to foreign minister: Finish the trade organization.

Several South Pacific nations are unstable and purely expansionist. Make no attempt of diplomatic ties.

Korea is an ally in Pacific, a deterrant force to previously said nations.

Several of the North American nations are not to be trusted. Specifically Cuba, the South, and the ACU. Brazil can not be trusted as well, recent invasion of Panama is disruptive to major shipping companies.

Those that can be trusted are the PCU, the WC, and Osea. Remember to sell ships to Osea for increased stability.

Be cautious in dealings with the UFS and Russia.
Permalink
| November 30, 2010, 7:51 pm
 Group moderator 
Quoting Thomas N
Oh sorry, I forgot about you, I was thinking about Areetsa, Fin, and Danny, my humblest apologies, dear sir.


There seems to be some matters of confusion on where I am. Let's make this clear to everyone:

I'm in China. I'm skeptical of most outsiders. I'm re-uniting China by force against the remnants of the People's Republic of China. I have close economic ties with the PCU.

I ain't singling out anyone. The incident with Finn was an accident, and I'm going to wait to see how other people's actions effect me or my homebois before making judgements on others.

Quoting Ham N' Biscuits
Meh. I have nothing better to do:


Dayum homie, am I really that unremarkable? I don't get no respect!
Permalink
| November 30, 2010, 7:53 pm
 Group moderator 
Quoting Ham N' Biscuits
Meh. I have nothing better to do:

The Baltic Union seems to be everywhere in the news, and their building of 3 supercarriers is a potential threat. Remind Minister of the Navy to order more ships.

The Baltic Union does not wish to be in competition with Spain, and would like to state that the first 2 carriers were being built provide forward defense for our nation, and the third was laid down as an answer to threatening gestures from London.
Permalink
| November 30, 2010, 7:58 pm
Australia has decided to end expansion in the South Pacific, and all other future operations have been canceled. Our military is strictly being used only for defense of the homeland. We have realized this mega-expansion has, in the long run, hurt us. We would like to make better diplomatic ties with other nations now. Also, since we have spent so much money on the military, our economy is going to be rebuilt.
Permalink
| November 30, 2010, 8:01 pm
I assure all of you that the Invasion of Panama was of NO intention to disrupt world trade and it WILL be available for ALL nations to use. If you want a written agreement then here it is:
The Republic of Brazil will be of no threat to world trade and transit. I recognize how important the Panama Canal is and it will be open to everyone. Have a nice day.
Permalink
| November 30, 2010, 8:03 pm
Quoting Thomas N
especially the ACU, whose miraculously quick acquisition of Mexico is raising some eyebrows.

When Delta force and Rangers are sent in to get their governing body, during a meeting, and their generals under attack before they could even organize a response doesn't leave a lot of choice in what to do. Plus their president is being reinstated as a figurehead.
Permalink
| November 30, 2010, 8:03 pm
Quoting Awesome-o-saurus The Not-So-


Fine. China and the PCU are legit, and we should improve relations with them.
Permalink
| November 30, 2010, 8:04 pm
 Group moderator 
Quoting John Dawn
When Delta force and Rangers are sent in to get their governing body, during a meeting, and their generals under attack before they could even organize a response doesn't leave a lot of choice in what to do. Plus their president is being reinstated as a figurehead.

As if the Mexican military, even without leaders, would just accept all that.
Permalink
| November 30, 2010, 8:08 pm
Quoting Thomas N
As if the Mexican military, even without leaders, would just accept all that.


Especially since they out number all of your troops by almost 3 to 1. The Mexican military has 193,000 personel.
Permalink
| November 30, 2010, 8:09 pm
 Group moderator 
Now, in other news, in order to accommodate for more recent expenditures, non-military wise, the Baltic Union is ceasing the construction of both Deutchland Class Cruisers. We do this because we realize that the heavy gun-firepower is relatively unnecessary in a day and age of missile systems.

Instead, we will be spending them money on such wasteful ships on other things.

Also, due to the criticisms it has drawn, and the mere expense of the project, B.N.S. Amsterdam has been suspended, but will not be completely called off. The few pieces that are yet finished will wait for such a proper time as to re-instate construction.
Permalink
| November 30, 2010, 8:17 pm
Quoting Jake H.
Where will it go?

http://www.treehugger.com/files/2008/06/craig-venter-interview.php
My super bacteria will nom nom nom it. Also, I'm not going to agrue the validity of global warming (as 90% of the modern has already established that it is true) but I think if you take 5 minutes and read what it actually is (as opposed to hearing radical right-wing propoganda), with a wee bit of common sense you may actual discover that yes, burning billions of gallons of fuel may indeed pollute.
Permalink
| November 30, 2010, 9:11 pm
Quoting Thomas N
As if the Mexican military, even without leaders, would just accept all that.

Back-room dealings ended the conflict, soldiers only started it. The military was told to stand down by the president and he was reinstated with government officials from the Union to keep watch.
Permalink
| November 30, 2010, 9:31 pm
On weapons:
Quoting Dr. Spontaneous
Aside from that, Russia is following en suite with our Nordic allies with the 6.8mm standard firearms conversion.

We'll take the old 7.62x39mm chambered rifles you've got in storage off your hands.

On climates: us in the Confederation are investing in cold weather proofing for our vehicles, following our guideline that whatever the Western mass-media hypes as fact is likely to be completely wrong.

On "terrorism": the men responsible for the completely uninteresting things that didn't happen in Almaty last month have been captured. Pieces of them, anyway. Seems one of the pursuit squads didn't show up at the training seminar on the role of grenade launchers in the new, caring, sharing, loving, touchy-feely Alenia.

On foreign affairs: while we recognize that an end to isolationalism means putting up with foreign embassies, we wish to make it very clear that at the first sign of espionage or subversion coming out of the Cuban embassy, we'll be sending in the OVB, knockout gas first. And if they resist, well, let's just say that ending spy activity is more important to us than any potential public affairs hit involved in blowing supposed "diplomats" into smithereens.

Also: we'd like to set up an embassy in the territory of the rightful rulers of China, if that's mmkay with them. We'll take the Kyrghizstanian one, it's not like they need it anymore.
Permalink
| November 30, 2010, 9:59 pm
Quoting Finn C-Q
With the arrival of all our new equiptment, the UKS have decided to parade our troop and equipment around to rouse civilians. Oh, and Diplomatic negotiations are getting tight with most of the nations we asked. With some of the more likely to say no ones, we have pulled out.

If this group is going for realism, then you need a new country buddy. Unless you exterminated all of the North or all of the South, your nation could NEVER exist without a civil war. There's something people don't understand about the Korea's. The North aren't a people yearning for freedom, they're mostly all brainwashed starved people, taught from the crib to trust in their glorious God-king dictator. Unless you have some very good reason that the North and South stopped hating each other, then there is a problem.

(I'm sorry if the admins find this harsh, but if you're going for realism down to economic activity then I suggest you help Finn, who seems to have had a problem like this in the last group, don't you remember Finn?
Permalink
| November 30, 2010, 10:40 pm
The CSS has passed a law today that will limit the acquisition of land on any continents other than North America, unless otherwise provoked to take a territory after wartime. Thus I'm pretty much saying, yo, you guys stay out of America, we stay out of everywhere else.

The CSS also proposes a vote on reinstating NAFTA. If you would like to take part (and are considered North American) please reply to this comment. This doesn't even exclude the PCU, whom we'd like to improve relations with.

Factories have produced the first frame of an Alaskan Blackbird, and a whole UAH-1 Myotis. Since we have shipped our first batch of troops over to Alaska, we hope to learn how to control these craft with the finesse of the Alaskan pilots.

War reports to come tomorrow.

Permalink
| November 30, 2010, 10:54 pm
 Group moderator 
Quoting Areetsa C
Also: we'd like to set up an embassy in the territory of the rightful rulers of China, if that's mmkay with them. We'll take the Kyrghizstanian one, it's not like they need it anymore.


Wait, what? Can you elaborate? I'm not in the most awake of states. Running on 4 hours of sleep and no dinner and all.
Permalink
| November 30, 2010, 11:09 pm
 Group moderator 
Quoting Evan Melick

I'm interested in some trading as well.
Permalink
| November 30, 2010, 11:24 pm
 Group moderator 
The Western Confederation invites the Cuban Embassy with pleasure! However, their building materials will be confiscated at the ports, their personnel interred, and the ships absorbed into our merchant fleet. Have at it, boys!

While you all are bankrupting your countries looking for 'clean' energy, I'll be miles ahead of you and only apply the sources when they're efficient enough where the output of an entire field can be captured with one turbine. Bio diesel is being produced, since the grain belt is once again unrestricted so farmers aren't paid not to grow crops. We're pretty hands-off when it comes to vial government controls on such things. It's a novelty we call 'Free Enterprise.'

Our heavy investment in nuclear power should decrease our dependence on coal exponentially. Research is moving forward on controlling a fusion reaction for such purposes in Utah. I do have a heart, but only because I don't like smog...

Speaking of bio diesel, Kansas has entered a grain trading relationship with the WC. A stock market has been officially opened in Monument, it's proximity to the new capital makes it an ideal site.
Permalink
| November 30, 2010, 11:47 pm
Quoting Awesome-o-saurus The Not-So-Great
Wait, what? Can you elaborate? I'm not in the most awake of states. Running on 4 hours of sleep and no dinner and all.

The Alenian Confederation, being me, would like to establish an embassy in your territory to make diplomatic businesses speedier and harder for others to spy on, and if that's fine with you, we'll redecorate the Kyrghizstanian one for our use, because they don't need it any longer being that they don't exist as a sovereign state anymore.
Permalink
| November 30, 2010, 11:51 pm
 Group moderator 
Quoting Areetsa C
The Alenian Confederation, being me, would like to establish an embassy in your territory to make diplomatic businesses speedier and harder for others to spy on, and if that's fine with you, we'll redecorate the Kyrghizstanian one for our use, because they don't need it any longer being that they don't exist as a sovereign state anymore.


Ah, accepted, then.

Permalink
| November 30, 2010, 11:56 pm
Quoting Awesome-o-saurus The Not-So-Great
Ah, accepted, then.

I presume you'll want to build one of your own in Astana, as well?
Permalink
| December 1, 2010, 12:01 am
 Group moderator 
Quoting Areetsa C

I presume you'll want to build one of your own in Astana, as well?


Yes. We'll raze the PRC one. This China rolls legit with the old styles. I take it that you've evicted the PRC diplomatic missions, seeing as how you previously recognized me as the rightful ruler of China?
Permalink
| December 1, 2010, 12:07 am
Quoting Awesome-o-saurus The Not-So-Great
Yes. We'll raze the PRC one. This China rolls legit with the old styles. I take it that you've evicted the PRC diplomatic missions, seeing as how you previously recognized me as the rightful ruler of China?

The PRC doesn't exactly have a good reputation for playing nice with other people's communication networks. Other than that, I'd imagine they got the boot when the old regime started their isolationalist program, and they're not really in a condition to be establishing new foreign embassies.
Permalink
| December 1, 2010, 12:14 am
 Group moderator 
Quoting Areetsa C
The PRC doesn't exactly have a good reputation for playing nice with other people's communication networks. Other than that, I'd imagine they got the boot when the old regime started their isolationalist program, and they're not really in a condition to be establishing new foreign embassies.


Sounds fresh. Glad to get that cleared up.

Permalink
| December 1, 2010, 12:16 am
Quoting Ultramarine .

Would you like to join NAFTA?
Permalink
| December 1, 2010, 5:05 pm
 Group admin 
Since everybody is debating "global warming" I'll just toss my 2 cents in. While global warming may (or may not) be a myth, I think its undeniable that our current rates of pollution haven't exactly helped the world either. Climate change is occurring right on schedule, like nature dictates. Temperatures always swing around a little bit, but the main fear is that human activity may make these changes more severe.

Basically, I'm waiting until the day that the ice caps completely melt to call global warming true, while simultaneously I'm waiting for the day that everything goes back to what it was a century ago to call it false. For a bunch of teenagers (and in the case of Ultra, young adults) to be 100% for or against is completely preposterous.
Permalink
| December 1, 2010, 5:31 pm
 Group moderator 
Quoting Matt Hacker
Since everybody is debating "global warming" I'll just toss my 2 cents in. While global warming may (or may not) be a myth, I think its undeniable that our current rates of pollution haven't exactly helped the world either. Climate change is occurring right on schedule, like nature dictates. Temperatures always swing around a little bit, but the main fear is that human activity may make these changes more severe.

Basically, I'm waiting until the day that the ice caps completely melt to call global warming true, while simultaneously I'm waiting for the day that everything goes back to what it was a century ago to call it false. For a bunch of teenagers (and in the case of Ultra, young adults) to be 100% for or against is completely preposterous.

I'm glad someone is speaking with the voice of reason instead of just smack-talking one side or the other of the argument.
Permalink
| December 1, 2010, 5:59 pm
 Group admin 
Quoting Areetsa C

If you're truly interested at the moment to acquire AK-whatevers, give me a number and a price to work with and we'll go from there.
Permalink
| December 1, 2010, 6:01 pm
Quoting Matt Hacker
Since everybody is debating "global warming" I'll just toss my 2 cents in. While global warming may (or may not) be a myth, I think its undeniable that our current rates of pollution haven't exactly helped the world either. Climate change is occurring right on schedule, like nature dictates. Temperatures always swing around a little bit, but the main fear is that human activity may make these changes more severe.

Basically, I'm waiting until the day that the ice caps completely melt to call global warming true, while simultaneously I'm waiting for the day that everything goes back to what it was a century ago to call it false. For a bunch of teenagers (and in the case of Ultra, young adults) to be 100% for or against is completely preposterous.

That's pretty much the way I feel about it. What's going to happen when we run out of oil?
Permalink
| December 1, 2010, 6:08 pm
Quoting Dr. Spontaneous
If you're truly interested at the moment to acquire AK-whatevers, give me a number and a price to work with and we'll go from there.

I'm not sure how scrap metal is priced. I'll have to do some research to figure out the price.
Permalink
| December 1, 2010, 6:20 pm
 Group admin 
Quoting Areetsa C
I'm not sure how scrap metal is priced. I'll have to do some research to figure out the price.

That'll work. I'm not looking for a big, fancy number that makes my wallet fat; rather, I just need some change to jingle so the Federal Assembly doesn't think I'm giving hand-outs.
Permalink
| December 1, 2010, 6:39 pm
 Group moderator 
Quoting Matt Hacker
(and in the case of Ultra, young adults) to be 100% for or against is completely preposterous.

Well, I know you'll all go "OMG, he's a radical!!!" for this, but I have a rather unique perspective on the matter. We have been promised that the seasons will remain the same, to be used as measures of times and days and years, until God says otherwise. Which won't happen until millions worldwide disappear, including me. So I can say unequivocally that 'global warming' and the new term 'climate change' is false.

I think it's pretty cool that little ol' me caused this whole thing...

Quoting Will G.
Would you like to join NAFTA?

With whom?
Permalink
| December 1, 2010, 8:51 pm
 Group admin 
Quoting Ultramarine .
Well, I know you'll all go "OMG, he's a radical!!!" for this, but I have a rather unique perspective on the matter. We have been promised that the seasons will remain the same, to be used as measures of times and days and years, until God says otherwise. Which won't happen until millions worldwide disappear, including me. So I can say unequivocally that 'global warming' and the new term 'climate change' is false.


I'm not going to respond to that as I am a religious person as well.
Permalink
| December 1, 2010, 9:04 pm
Quoting Matt Hacker
Since everybody is debating "global warming" I'll just toss my 2 cents in. While global warming may (or may not) be a myth, I think its undeniable that our current rates of pollution haven't exactly helped the world either. Climate change is occurring right on schedule, like nature dictates. Temperatures always swing around a little bit, but the main fear is that human activity may make these changes more severe.

Basically, I'm waiting until the day that the ice caps completely melt to call global warming true, while simultaneously I'm waiting for the day that everything goes back to what it was a century ago to call it false. For a bunch of teenagers (and in the case of Ultra, young adults) to be 100% for or against is completely preposterous.

I totally agree with that, we need to keep a very open view on the issue because we currently do not have enough facts to verify either side of the situation. Therefore we need to remain neutral and open minded in the issue of Global Warming.
Permalink
| December 1, 2010, 9:43 pm
 Group admin 
Quoting Evan Melick
AK-47's can be found on the black market for around 60-120 USD a pop. No joke, Janes did an article on it. :P


Even cheaper, $25 per AK 47 in the Somali Black Market.
Permalink
| December 1, 2010, 9:55 pm
Quoting Ultramarine .
Well, I know you'll all go "OMG, he's a radical!!!" for this, but I have a rather unique perspective on the matter. We have been promised that the seasons will remain the same, to be used as measures of times and days and years, until God says otherwise. Which won't happen until millions worldwide disappear, including me. So I can say unequivocally that 'global warming' and the new term 'climate change' is false.

I think it's pretty cool that little ol' me caused this whole thing...

Quoting Will G.
Would you like to join NAFTA?

With whom?

All North American nations that wish to join.
Permalink
| December 1, 2010, 10:11 pm
Quoting Evan Melick
AK-47's can be found on the black market for around 60-120 USD a pop. No joke, Janes did an article on it. :P

Yes, but those are fully functional and ready to go, whereas the AKMs I'm planning to buy from Erik have been kept in cosmoline for most of a century. Which means they have to be cleaned off, and cosmoline is notoriously difficult to remove. They also don't come with ammunition, and will have to be tested to make sure they're functional. Besides, they're scrap anyway. He can't use them because the Russians haven't used 7.62x39mm ammunition for many years, while he's replacing his 5.45x39mm AK-74s with something newer; therefore, he's got lots of AK-74s going into storage, along with their ammunition, and he has to do something about the useless AKMs that're taking up room.

Quoting Dr. Spontaneous
That'll work. I'm not looking for a big, fancy number that makes my wallet fat; rather, I just need some change to jingle so the Federal Assembly doesn't think I'm giving hand-outs.

$20 USD each, with us paying for transport, testing and cleaning sound about right?
Quantity would be as many as you can spare.
Permalink
| December 1, 2010, 10:33 pm
 Group moderator 
Quoting Evan Melick
Quoting Thomas N
Quoting Evan Melick

I'm interested in some trading as well.

Ok, if it involves military items, I might be interested in doing a swap or something, so anybody looking into that, feel free to FM or post in the trading board.

good, meet me in the trading thread.
Permalink
| December 1, 2010, 10:52 pm
Quoting Will G.
All North American nations that wish to join.

I'm in.
Permalink
| December 1, 2010, 11:12 pm
 Group moderator 
Free trade is evil. It allows your economy to be flooded by cheaper foreign goods and ruins your home industry. Tariffs forever. In fact, I think I'm gonna make a Tariff of Abominations, though for what, I do not know yet...
Permalink
| December 1, 2010, 11:21 pm
 Group moderator 
Quoting Will G.
All North American nations that wish to join.

Hmm. Sounds interesting. What are the terms?

Quoting henry wang
open minded

"An open mind is like a fortress with its gates unbarred and unguarded." -Space Marines

Not that I disagree, I just couldn't resist.

Permalink
| December 2, 2010, 12:48 am
War Updating, yay!
Troops operating out of Tumeremo have advanced west halfway to San Frenando but have encountered very thick resistance. Of the 470 out of Tumeremo 172 were KIA, 52 are MIA. Additionally, 7 tanks were destroyed or disabled. Down south, troops in long-secure Santa Elena have swept through the city and have arrested 30 potential rebels. They also raided their armory and other linked areas. More to come later when the sweep is finished.
Reconstruction of the cities destroyed in the Invasion has begun.
Permalink
| December 2, 2010, 4:00 pm
 Group moderator 
In the frozen territory of North Dakota not very long ago, a full wing of 60 Mig-17s were discovered in an underground hangar. Long forgotten in the paperwork of the former USAF, these aircraft are composed of aircraft from Korea, Egypt, and North Vietnam; undoubtedly garnered from combat and/or defectors.

These machines were taken up by the new McDonnell Douglas company. The aircraft are refitted with a R4800 experimental engine. The project is funded by a civilian air-race company. The engineers realized that the craft bore potential, and with slicing down the tail plane, shortening the fuselage, and increasing the wing sweep; they created a Mach capable CAS aircraft. It was turned down by the Western Confederation for front-line service. Looking to find a profit from the project, Douglas turned to the international market.

In other news, the Western Confederation requests that the Baja Peninsula be ceded to its power, at the secession of the DMZ previously arranged. Since it is unlikely that any Eastern soldiers have established a presence in such far reaches, such requests are not viewed as threatening to the well-being of the Eastern powers. A close examination will reveal that the peninsula is considerably smaller than the territory lost to the DMZ.
Permalink
| December 2, 2010, 4:26 pm
Sorry I Haven't given an update for a while.

So the situation in Borneo has been resolved. The remaining resistance have all but given up. Now Borneo can become part of the Indo-Union.

You know how in the present day Borneo was divided between Indonesia, Malaysia, and Brunei?

Yeah, well since then the Maritime South East Asia region became a civil war zone and the nations divided. Now the Indo Union is re-uniting those warring nations, and Borneo is no longer a republic.

As for Malaysia

It has kind of joined forces with the IU, but not exactly Annexed to Indonesia. It is still a separate nation, though one day, when the IU get more powerful, Malaysia may decide (or be forced <.<) to join the IU.

That's my national update
Permalink
| December 2, 2010, 6:40 pm
Quoting Ultramarine .
In other news, the Western Confederation requests that the Baja Peninsula be ceded to its power, at the secession of the DMZ previously arranged. Since it is unlikely that any Eastern soldiers have established a presence in such far reaches, such requests are not viewed as threatening to the well-being of the Eastern powers. A close examination will reveal that the peninsula is considerably smaller than the territory lost to the DMZ.

I'm sorry but the entire west coast of Mexico is going to the PCU.
Permalink
| December 2, 2010, 8:12 pm
Quoting Will G.
If this group is going for realism, then you need a new country buddy. Unless you exterminated all of the North or all of the South, your nation could NEVER exist without a civil war. There's something people don't understand about the Korea's. The North aren't a people yearning for freedom, they're mostly all brainwashed starved people, taught from the crib to trust in their glorious God-king dictator. Unless you have some very good reason that the North and South stopped hating each other, then there is a problem.

(I'm sorry if the admins find this harsh, but if you're going for realism down to economic activity then I suggest you help Finn, who seems to have had a problem like this in the last group, don't you remember Finn?

DUDE I HAD ORIGINALLY STATED IN TE BEGUINNING, WHEN I STARTED, THAT, I HAD HAD A CIVIL WAR, AND MADE A STORY ALONG WITH IT, FOR PEETS SAKE LOOK AT MY FIRST POST IN IC1! Jeebus...
Permalink
| December 2, 2010, 8:19 pm
Quoting Will G.


You like targeting me, don't you? ONE mistake and BOOM, on me like a rabid dog... No offence intended, but please do reaserch in the thing your bugging me about BEFORE you bother doing that.
Permalink
| December 2, 2010, 8:22 pm
Quoting Finn C-Q
DUDE I HAD ORIGINALLY STATED IN TE BEGUINNING, WHEN I STARTED, THAT, I HAD HAD A CIVIL WAR, AND MADE A STORY ALONG WITH IT, FOR PEETS SAKE LOOK AT MY FIRST POST IN IC1! Jeebus...

Just so you guys know, if stuff goes down, I support Finn.

Speaking of alliances and such, is there any aid I could send to help with infrastructure, and bringing your country up to date?
Permalink
| December 2, 2010, 8:31 pm
Quoting Jake H.
Just so you guys know, if stuff goes down, I support Finn.

Speaking of alliances and such, is there any aid I could send to help with infrastructure, and bringing your country up to date?

Thanks :D I could use some planes.
Permalink
| December 2, 2010, 8:35 pm
 Group moderator 
Quoting Nick Shelton

The Western Confederation would like to negotiate with the PCU the possession of a port for naval facilities on the western coast of Mexico. Or, propose the purchase of 100 miles of the tip of the Baja Peninsula for said purposes.

Quoting John Dawn
I'm sorry but the entire west coast of Mexico is going to the PCU.

Then I still want the DMZ.
Permalink
| December 2, 2010, 8:49 pm
Quoting Ultramarine .
Then I still want the DMZ.

Take it.
Permalink
| December 2, 2010, 8:58 pm
I just purchased 30 Mig-60s and production rights for it. 150.01 Million has been wired to the WC for it. Have a nice day. The Aircraft carrier for the South has been finished and is designated CV-1. It will be sailed up north with escort to Florida for the South. This designation can be changed when delivered and is just for identification.
Permalink
| December 2, 2010, 8:59 pm
Quoting Finn C-Q
Thanks :D I could use some planes.

I could probably give you the rights to the F-22.
I'll send over two too.
Permalink
| December 2, 2010, 9:00 pm
Quoting Finn C-Q
DUDE I HAD ORIGINALLY STATED IN TE BEGUINNING, WHEN I STARTED, THAT, I HAD HAD A CIVIL WAR, AND MADE A STORY ALONG WITH IT, FOR PEETS SAKE LOOK AT MY FIRST POST IN IC1! Jeebus...

Read my comment. A civil war wouldn't work anyway. Whatever, I don't like targeting you, but if some people in this group like realism, then I was trying to keep it real, like I would go to war with North Korea, almost everyone here hates me anyways.
Permalink
| December 2, 2010, 9:01 pm
 Group moderator 
Quoting Brikkr ™

I just purchased 30 Mig-60s and production rights for it. 150 Million has been wired to the WC for it.

Ah-ha! Nice try! Where's my $.01Million for the license? =D

Quoting John Dawn
Take it.

Thank you!
Permalink
| December 2, 2010, 9:02 pm
Quoting Will G.
Read my comment. A civil war wouldn't work anyway. Whatever, I don't like targeting you, but if some people in this group like realism, then I was trying to keep it real, like I would go to war with North Korea, almost everyone here hates me anyways.

Yeh, I know. It's not like I don't like you, you just can be too much of the "the truth hurts"
Permalink
| December 2, 2010, 9:03 pm
Quoting Jake H.
I could probably give you the rights to the F-22.
I'll send over two too.

Thanks
Permalink
| December 2, 2010, 9:05 pm
Quoting Ultramarine .
Ah-ha! Nice try! Where's my $.01Million for the license? =D

Whoops I left that out accidentally. I'm changing that now.

Permalink
| December 2, 2010, 9:39 pm
This is the Holiday report, brought to you by the President of the Confederacy:

-The Confederate states have begun our pro-efficient energy campaign. We are running a series of advertisements to encourage uses of alternate energy, not because we are believers in global warming, but because it's cheap. We are also slipping a little funding into the pockets of alternate energy companies. They can think of it as a Christmas gift.
(We don't believe in government run everything.)

-We are also beginning to integrate our new addition to the Confederacy. Borders are "open" and airlines are able to run flights from state to state and families will be able to reunite over the holidays.

-Speaking of Holidays, Kwanzaa is not recognized as one here in the Confederacy. It was started by a domestic terrorist abuser of women, and we do not tolerate that here.

-More prototype Abrams Upgrades have been created and are also being sent to testing grounds. The first were extremely successful and are being equipped with the fuel efficient Minotaur Tank engines. They are also receiving their first new paint jobs since Iraq.

-All CSS soldiers are receiving a Christmas bonus for their families. It may not be big, but we care for how hard they work to defend the nation.


Permalink
| December 2, 2010, 10:00 pm
 Group admin 
The NDV Stockholm, equipped with the prototype Anti-ASBM system has been launched today. She will be make it in time for the joint military exercises later this week.

The UFS is going to wait for a while so we can have a little more breathing room economically.

The Swedish vessels that were moved to Iceland for our goodwill visit have begun transit back to port.

In terms of terrorism, after all the benefits in health and education as well as general unification benefits, some of the dissent against the Nordic unification is beginning to VERY slowly cool off. Some are still unwavering, but as long as they don't try anything radical they will of course be allowed to be a citizen of the UFS.
Permalink
| December 2, 2010, 10:44 pm
 Group moderator 
Quoting Matt Hacker
joint military exercises later this week.


Any chance we could possibly be part of that?
Permalink
| December 2, 2010, 11:17 pm
 Group moderator 
Quoting Will G.
(We don't believe in government run everything.)


The Democratic-Republicans would like you.

In China:
-The war in the south goes on, the PRC has been preparing defenses in this area for some time.
-Hubei has fallen, Hunan is gonna take probably another few weeks.
-Jiangxi is about halfway conquered, they'll be at least two more weeks in the fighting.
-Fujian has finally been subjugated, after about 3-4 weeks. It feels that long, anyway.
-In more diplomatic matters:
-Talks with the provisional government of Inner Mongolia go on. They're hesitant to rejoin, no one likes giving up sovereignty, but the economic bonuses are... significant, to say the least.
-A dialog has been opened with Taiwan, but the Republic's attitudes are chilly for now.
-Industry:
-The plane-tank-chopper mix goes onwards.
-Prototype submarine under construction.
Permalink
| December 2, 2010, 11:54 pm
 Group moderator 
Quoting Awesome-o-saurus The Not-So-Great

-A dialog has been opened with Taiwan, but the Republic's attitudes are chilly for now.
-Industry:
-The plane-tank-chopper mix goes onwards.
-Prototype submarine under construction.

As you're the one going on a conquest of the Communist PRC, I would think Taiwan would be rather fond of you.
Permalink
| December 3, 2010, 12:03 am
 Group moderator 
Quoting Thomas N
As you're the one going on a conquest of the Communist PRC, I would think Taiwan would be rather fond of you.


Yes, chilly for now. But I'm not sure how well they'd take incorporation to an equally autocratic state.
Permalink
| December 3, 2010, 12:07 am
@Western Confederation: We'll respectfully decline the offer over the bases on Baja and any other places in Mexico.
Permalink
| December 3, 2010, 12:36 am
 Group moderator 
Quoting Nick Shelton
@Western Confederation: We'll respectfully decline the offer over the bases on Baja and any other places in Mexico.

Would you like to reconsider? Or would you like to build those nice oil rigs somewhere other than the Gulf?

I don't think it's unreasonable. Considering I've let you take Oklahoma, effectively bracketing me in.

Permalink
| December 3, 2010, 12:41 am
Quoting Ultramarine .
Would you like to reconsider? Or would you like to build those nice oil rigs somewhere other than the Gulf?



Yo Ultra, I'm really happy for you, and Ima let you drill, but Mexico's got the best sand of all time! OF ALL TIME!

Go play BP on some oil rigs, we'll just find somewhere else to do our oil business.
Permalink
| December 3, 2010, 12:50 am
 Group moderator 
Quoting Nick Shelton

Yo Ultra, I'm really happy for you, and Ima let you drill, but Mexico's got the best sand of all time! OF ALL TIME!

Go play BP on some oil rigs, we'll just find somewhere else to do our oil business.

Well, if you recall, you have a couple there too, or so that was our agreement. I don't play BP, I'm too smart.

Sand? Really? I could get you some Texas sand, it's better 'cause it's American.

And how have you been getting your men to & from Oklahoma? You enjoy access, right? How would you like all Western Confederation airspace closed to your aircraft? Not aggressively, but you'll loose an awful lot of fuel and time going the long way around.

I'll pay you good money, it's not like I'm land-grabbing here.
Permalink
| December 3, 2010, 12:59 am
I figured you'd cut airspace from me.

What kind of price are you figuring in here?
Permalink
| December 3, 2010, 1:04 am
 Group moderator 
That defused quick. But I bet you over 9000 rupees this will be a war-starter.
Permalink
| December 3, 2010, 1:08 am
Quoting Jake H.
Just so you guys know, if stuff goes down, I support Finn.

So do I, because someone else launching a war of aggression against him gives me the moral high ground, for once.

Speaking of moral high ground, I've heard of a Russian designed cruise missile system that looks exactly like a shipping container. Does anyone know where I might be able to buy some of those?
Permalink
| December 3, 2010, 6:13 am
 Group admin 
Quoting Thomas N
Any chance we could possibly be part of that?


Of course, would you mind being the OpFor to Erik and I in the naval stage?
Permalink
| December 3, 2010, 8:30 am
 Group moderator 
Quoting Nick Shelton
I figured you'd cut airspace from me.

What kind of price are you figuring in here?

Now we're talking! I figure since the land came pretty cheap to you, about 50 miles (half of our previous request) of the southern Baja tip coast would be around $500 Million?
Permalink
| December 3, 2010, 11:08 am
Quoting Ultramarine .
Now we're talking! I figure since the land came pretty cheap to you, about 50 miles (half of our previous request) of the southern Baja tip coast would be around $500 Million?

The South frowns on making deals with the devil, he is not kind when you break them.

In other news a Swedish mercenary in Venezuela single handedly blew up an oil rig because of a personal vendetta. We are going to have him imprisoned as a POW, because over there he is under military jurisdiction.
(I hope someone gets that reference)


Permalink
| December 3, 2010, 5:03 pm
 Group moderator 
Quoting Will G.
The South frowns on making deals with the devil, he is not kind when you break them.

Well, that's ok. See, if he ever goes to war anywhere, all those hippies in California will protest and riot so much it won't even be funny.
Permalink
| December 3, 2010, 5:10 pm
Quoting Awesome-o-saurus The Not-So-Great
That defused quick. But I bet you over 9000 rupees this will be a war-starter.

This should make things more interesting...

I have nothing really to update, other than a new infectious disease spotted in Sumatra.
Permalink
| December 3, 2010, 5:33 pm
 Group admin 
Quoting Areetsa C

I greatly apologize for the delayed response upon matters of trade. Anyhow, I figure I can let loose 25,000 Kalashnikovs to you with the price, etc. you granted me. Perchance this number isn't as high as you were hoping, but I'm sure you'll have your hands full with getting them in-shape as is. Not only that, but we can always make more trade ordeals later if need be; that's to say if my trust issues don't spark up. Anyhow, if you need any replacement parts or cleaning kits outside of the provided number already being incorporated, they'll be free of charge.
Permalink
| December 3, 2010, 6:13 pm
 Group admin 
ATTENTION PLAYERS

Due to Cliffe's 1 month inactivity, as well as explicit permission from him to remove him from the group, his lands in Canada are now up for (forceful) grabbing. Things could get interesting in here PvP wise (which we encourage).

Have fun expanding!
Permalink
| December 3, 2010, 6:14 pm
Quoting Matt Hacker
ATTENTION PLAYERS

Due to Cliffe's 1 month inactivity, as well as explicit permission from him to remove him from the group, his lands in Canada are now up for (forceful) grabbing. Things could get interesting in here PvP wise (which we encourage).

Have fun expanding!

So I have to spend 3 months slowly annexing Malaysia back into the Indonesian Union, but other people can instantly go and grab a country bigger than the USA?
Permalink
| December 3, 2010, 6:19 pm
 Group admin 
Quoting danny morgan
So I have to spend 3 months slowly annexing Malaysia back into the Indonesian Union, but other people can instantly go and grab a country bigger than the USA?


Obviously not. Integrating Canada will be a slow process, and the Admins make sure that it isn't a quick "snatch and grab" type of thing.

Quoting Will G.
In other news a Swedish mercenary in Venezuela single handedly blew up an oil rig because of a personal vendetta. We are going to have him imprisoned as a POW, because over there he is under military jurisdiction.
(I hope someone gets that reference)



Reference to Mercenaries 2?
Permalink
| December 3, 2010, 6:20 pm
 Group moderator 
Quoting danny morgan
So I have to spend 3 months slowly annexing Malaysia back into the Indonesian Union, but other people can instantly go and grab a country bigger than the USA?


It's not land it's based on, it's the people in the land. If Canada had the same population as China, you'd start with only a segment, like we both did with our areas.

In China:
-War goes as it did earlier, slow, sometimes non-existent advance. Artillery is doing the main fighting here, troops are keeping clear of it. Air superiority is good, fighters attack things.
-Diplomacy goes on. Taiwan has a happy that we're taking out the Commies, but they're skeptical of us too. Inner Mongolia is deliberately slow to reply.
-Production keeps at a steady pace.
Permalink
| December 3, 2010, 6:27 pm
 Group moderator 
Quoting Matt Hacker

Of course, would you mind being the OpFor to Erik and I in the naval stage?

Of course, I have B.N.S. Berlin just off sea trials, so I could run her with her battle group, along with a healthy dose of Frigates and maybe a few Admiral Neumos. I would also love the opportunity to try out the navy's newest toy, the Schwarz haifisch Class AMB Sub.
Permalink
| December 3, 2010, 7:16 pm
Quoting Will G.

I'm sailing the Carrier over. It'll be there on Tuesday. Where do ya want it?
Permalink
| December 3, 2010, 7:18 pm
The PCU, 7/8 of the way done with Oklahoma (only Lawton, Tulsa, and Oklahoma City remain), we are starting talks with Alberta and Montana. We expect a stern no from both states, but the PCU doesn't like no very much. >.>
Permalink
| December 3, 2010, 7:28 pm
 Group moderator 
Quoting Nick Shelton
The PCU, 7/8 of the way done with Oklahoma (only Lawton, Tulsa, and Oklahoma City remain), we are starting talks with Alberta and Montana. We expect a stern no from both states, but the PCU doesn't like no very much. >.>

Here's my proposal. Hope the picture helps.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/46934040@N05/5230543066/
Permalink
| December 3, 2010, 8:50 pm
 Group moderator 
The new governor has been elected in Montana, thanks to the huge dollars donated to his campaign by the Western Confederation. The vote is going into deliberations right now to join the WC, as was a condition for the donations. The Western Confederation respectfully requests that the PCU not interfere until the vote has been finalized. Unless you've decided they've already said 'no.' In which case, they'll likely say 'yes' to me.

35 Mig-60s have flown to Houston, Texas (5 extra in case of mechanical difficulties) and were loaded onto the carrier. This carrier was stocked with 20 F-18s, 10 F-35s, and 8 Intruder ECM aircraft. The 30 60s were then loaded up and the ship, with four CG cutters, set sail for Brazil. Two freighters and another four cutters will be joining this force, and then break off at Brazil, head south and around Tierra Del Fuego. It should arrive there in a week.

On that note, the carrier has been named the WCS Independence. Port works in Houston and other areas are completed, production on the Colorado-class frigates and the Dallas-class battleships (not to be confused with WWII battleships).
Permalink
| December 3, 2010, 9:04 pm
In the SU, we're expanding into the great lakes area of Canada.

Mainly just buying up businesses, and supporting various government officials, and big businesses. Basically making friends.


Permalink
| December 3, 2010, 9:07 pm
Quoting Ultramarine .

If you mean the carrier I sold you, it had no fighters on it, and it can only carry 30 craft. On that note, the training of your sailors is nearing completion, if you would like we can fly in Naval Air advisors to oversee the pilot's training of day and night landings. While this may seem insignificant, none of your pilots will know this skill, thus making accidents more prone.
Permalink
| December 3, 2010, 9:11 pm
 Group moderator 
Quoting Ham N' Biscuits
If you mean the carrier I sold you, it had no fighters on it, and it can only carry 30 craft. On that note, the training of your sailors is nearing completion, if you would like we can fly in Naval Air advisors to oversee the pilot's training of day and night landings. While this may seem insignificant, none of your pilots will know this skill, thus making accidents more prone.

Sheesh. What kind of carrier did you sell me, anyway? I knew about the aircraft, those are my own.
I thought my training was over. I do have navy pilots because there is a naval air station in Corpus Christi, so I do have carrier trained pilots, just no carriers. Your boys can go home, and thanks to them. I'm giving them $100 bonus apiece.

Very well, to amend my earlier statement, there will be twenty F-18s, six F-35s, and 4 Intruder ECW aircraft.
Permalink
| December 3, 2010, 9:21 pm
Quoting Ultramarine .
Sheesh. What kind of carrier did you sell me, anyway? I knew about the aircraft, those are my own.
I thought my training was over. I do have navy pilots because there is a naval air station in Corpus Christi, so I do have carrier trained pilots, just no carriers. Your boys can go home, and thanks to them. I'm giving them $100 bonus apiece.

Very well, to amend my earlier statement, there will be twenty F-18s, six F-35s, and 4 Intruder ECW aircraft.


I told you the carrier only carried 30 aircraft, it's what the Spanish Navy had to offer.
Permalink
| December 3, 2010, 9:37 pm
 Group moderator 
Quoting Ham N' Biscuits

I told you the carrier only carried 30 aircraft, it's what the Spanish Navy had to offer.

I guess I didn't see that, but I did buy it, so I can't complain.
Permalink
| December 3, 2010, 9:42 pm
New models of the F22 are now being made. In other news, the UKS have decided to with draw from the other territories and ask the Philippines instead to join our country. If not other matters will have to be made. Our ships are arriving with the diplomat now.
Permalink
| December 3, 2010, 9:55 pm
Quoting Finn C-Q
New models of the F22 are now being made.

You don't have any of those.
Permalink
| December 3, 2010, 10:03 pm
 Group moderator 
Quoting Areetsa C
Quoting Finn C-Q
New models of the F22 are now being made.

You don't have any of those.


Jake H sold him some a few weeks ago or something. We'll let the admins decide how many he can build.
Permalink
| December 3, 2010, 10:06 pm
 Group moderator 
Something I forgot to mention earlier. The Western Confederation has now mined enough Uranium to satisfy its needs, and is now willing to sell both raw and depleted Uranium to the international market. Depleted Uranium for armor piercing rounds, and we all know what the other is good for.

Gold continues to pour in from Colorado, and new sites are being opened in the Black Hills areas of the Dakotas. Production continues on all types of aircraft in the new factories, and the number climbs on the number of M1A5s.
Permalink
| December 3, 2010, 10:07 pm
Quoting Areetsa C
Quoting Finn C-Q
New models of the F22 are now being made.

You don't have any of those.

He sent me some.
Permalink
| December 3, 2010, 10:07 pm
Quoting Awesome-o-saurus The Not-So-Great

Jake H sold him some a few weeks ago or something. We'll let the admins decide how many he can build.

>.<
Permalink
| December 3, 2010, 10:08 pm
 Group moderator 
Quoting Finn C-Q
>.<


<.> to you too. Korea, though mega economy, isn't the same as America. In fact, I'd be surprised if anyone short of Erik could field F-22s in any number. He's the only one with an economy big enough. Maybe Matt and Brikkr too.
Permalink
| December 3, 2010, 10:09 pm
Quoting Awesome-o-saurus The Not-So-Great
<.> to you too. Korea, though mega economy, isn't the same as America. In fact, I'd be surprised if anyone short of Erik could field F-22s in any number. He's the only one with an economy big enough. Maybe Matt and Brikkr too.

Why would Erik bother? He's got his own superfighters. I'm pretty sure the F-22 is already (as of 2010) effectively obsolete.
Permalink
| December 3, 2010, 10:12 pm
Quoting Brikkr ™
Quoting Will G.

I'm sailing the Carrier over. It'll be there on Tuesday. Where do ya want it?

New Orleans please.
Permalink
| December 3, 2010, 10:12 pm
 Group moderator 
Quoting Awesome-o-saurus The Not-So-Great

<.> to you too. Korea, though mega economy, isn't the same as America. In fact, I'd be surprised if anyone short of Erik could field F-22s in any number. He's the only one with an economy big enough. Maybe Matt and Brikkr too.

Or those of us splinter US countries. I'm working on an improved version.
Permalink
| December 3, 2010, 10:13 pm
Quoting Awesome-o-saurus The Not-So-Great

<.> to you too. Korea, though mega economy, isn't the same as America. In fact, I'd be surprised if anyone short of Erik could field F-22s in any number. He's the only one with an economy big enough. Maybe Matt and Brikkr too.

Well... I could adapt it, also I was selling old vehicles to other countries
Permalink
| December 3, 2010, 10:18 pm
Quoting Will G.
New Orleans please.

Okay. My sailors are expecting good southern food when they get there. >.<
Permalink
| December 3, 2010, 10:19 pm
 Group admin 
Quoting Awesome-o-saurus The Not-So-Great

<.> to you too. Korea, though mega economy, isn't the same as America. In fact, I'd be surprised if anyone short of Erik could field F-22s in any number. He's the only one with an economy big enough. Maybe Matt and Brikkr too.



Unless I stopped all other military development, I probably could not build them, even if I wanted.



Permalink
| December 3, 2010, 10:20 pm
Quoting Brikkr ™
Okay. My sailors are expecting good southern food when they get there. >.<

They'll get it all. Cajun, Southern, everything.
The whole Nawlins' experience, however, they can't parade around the streets drunk.
Permalink
| December 3, 2010, 10:30 pm
Quoting Evan Melick
Hallo, that would be a "no".

Anyway. No decisions has been reached over the breakup of Mexico, other the southern former US states invading?

For the map btw.

The South is not taking part in the invasion of Mexico, what we are doing is the liberation of Venezuela, a joint operation between Brazil and I. I however, receive no land.
Permalink
| December 3, 2010, 10:33 pm
 Group moderator 
Quoting Evan Melick
Hallo, that would be a "no".

Anyway. No decisions has been reached over the breakup of Mexico, other the southern former US states invading?

For the map btw.

We've got a 50 mile blank spot along my border. And here's my $500 Mil land purchase: http://www.flickr.com/photos/46934040@N05/5230543066/
Permalink
| December 3, 2010, 10:33 pm
 Group moderator 
Quoting Evan Melick
So then who is invading Mexico?

Ok, Ultra, I'll mark that. I assume most of northern Mexico is under occupation by the invading forces?

I think so, not sure though.
Permalink
| December 3, 2010, 10:38 pm
 Group moderator 
Quoting Ultramarine .
Or those of us splinter US countries. I'm working on an improved version.


When I said anyone short of Erik, I mean, well, anyone. If you are indeed saying you've got F-22s fielded in bulk, that is. But whatever. This group wouldn't be fun if we stuck to uber realism.

Permalink
| December 3, 2010, 10:41 pm
 Group moderator 
Quoting Awesome-o-saurus The Not-So-Great

When I said anyone short of Erik, I mean, well, anyone. If you are indeed saying you've got F-22s fielded in bulk, that is. But whatever. This group wouldn't be fun if we stuck to uber realism.

Oh, 'In Bulk.' No, I've got less than 50, based on production expectations.
Permalink
| December 3, 2010, 10:44 pm
 Group admin 
Even if Korea has the ability to produce F-22s in a combat-capable version, it would be rather ignorant upon its capabilities and maintenance programs. Regardless of the ability to sling materials together, no former experience with the plane would mean weeks of training in all fields of support. Anyhow, I see only two squadrons (24 aircraft) being under Korean hands for the next little while. Limited materials, limited experience, a newly integrated military, etc. means very few planes being called upon for service until all the kinks are finished.
Permalink
| December 3, 2010, 10:57 pm
Quoting Dr. Spontaneous
Even if Korea has the ability to produce F-22s in a combat-capable version, it would be rather ignorant upon its capabilities and maintenance programs. Regardless of the ability to sling materials together, no former experience with the plane would mean weeks of training in all fields of support. Anyhow, I see only two squadrons (24 aircraft) being under Korean hands for the next little while. Limited materials, limited experience, a newly integrated military, etc. means very few planes being called upon for service until all the kinks are finished.

What would you say about the Southern states then?
Permalink
| December 3, 2010, 10:58 pm
 Group admin 
Quoting Will G.
What would you say about the Southern states then?

Roughly the same. Two to four squadrons presently with intense training programs to rectify the splintering of military organization and political stability. Although you're a portion of the original operating nation, you only have bits of what used to be. Not to say expansion isn't possible, but presently most small or splintered nations will have smaller arsenals. Your best bet is to team up with Jack and others to increase your combat effectiveness and checklist of the airframe (in which seems you may already be doing so).However, all of this incorporates the idea the Raptor is fully upgraded with all the newer trinkets for being MC.
Permalink
| December 3, 2010, 11:04 pm
Quoting Evan Melick
Although the Southern US, (and to a point, the midwest) contains a large number of military complexes, we're talking about 150+ million dollar planes here. The sheer resources required to field even a squadron of such planes, including maintinence of the very touchy plane, etc is a huge cost. You have to remember, the combined resources of the entire US, the foremost military power and economy on the planet, can't even afford to field 200 of them. This is piddly compared to less hyper-advanced jets were even relatively smaller nations air forces can field hundreds if not close to thousand of planes. If you split up the US, you split the economy, and ability to draw on resources, significantly reducing the amount of stuff you can hold on to. Just because, say 60 F-22's may be stationed in the mid-west/prairie region, does not mean just that region of the US + Texas (to use you as an example) could field those 60 jets on their own.

Look at Mr. Ford. Many F-22's are based in Alaska. However, there is no way just Alaska can field those planes on their own, due to their vastly smaller economy. Same with the south.

I'm not Texas though. Sorry to be picky.
I think there should be a questions thread for this, but I don't have any listed in statistics, I was wondering if I could even field as squadron.
Permalink
| December 3, 2010, 11:11 pm
 Group admin 
Quoting Will G.
I'm not Texas though. Sorry to be picky.
I think there should be a questions thread for this, but I don't have any listed in statistics, I was wondering if I could even field as squadron.

I say yes, Evan says no. I'm a bit more lenient that he, just for the sheer fact this war-infested group would be drained of interest if everyone were to be drawn back by economic constraints. Evan is just a meaniehead.

Nevermind, yo. Evan agrees with two to five squadrons maximum per splintered state.
Permalink
| December 3, 2010, 11:14 pm
Quoting Dr. Spontaneous
Roughly the same. Two to four squadrons presently with intense training programs to rectify the splintering of military organization and political stability. Although you're a portion of the original operating nation, you only have bits of what used to be. Not to say expansion isn't possible, but presently most small or splintered nations will have smaller arsenals. Your best bet is to team up with Jack and others to increase your combat effectiveness and checklist of the airframe (in which seems you may already be doing so).However, all of this incorporates the idea the Raptor is fully upgraded with all the newer trinkets for being MC.

Thanks for all the help from the both of you. At first I personally didn't put them in my arsenal to catch flak, but I'm not as military savvy as most people in the group.
I'm gonna stick to a few of the F-22's and more F-35's. I understand about the split economy though.
Permalink
| December 3, 2010, 11:15 pm
 Group moderator 
Quoting Evan Melick

Well, I am Texas, and Colorado, and the Dakotas, with all of that nice gold. I mentioned the gold, right? I love gold. I need to quantify how much annually to see if I could swing it.
Permalink
| December 3, 2010, 11:26 pm
Quoting Ultramarine .
Quoting Evan Melick

Well, I am Texas, and Colorado, and the Dakotas, with all of that nice gold. I mentioned the gold, right? I love gold. I need to quantify how much annually to see if I could swing it.

Well I stole Fort Knox. So I have all the gold I will ever need.
Permalink
| December 3, 2010, 11:30 pm
 Group moderator 
Quoting Will G.
Well I stole Fort Knox. So I have all the gold I will ever need.

Actually, and not to put out your balloon, but I doubt very highly that Ft. Knox has a mite of gold dust in it. If the National Debt increases as much as it is... It's nearly empty now, or at least very depleted.

Not to cast a dispersion, though. If you've got the gold, great!
Permalink
| December 3, 2010, 11:46 pm
Quoting Ultramarine .
Actually, and not to put out your balloon, but I doubt very highly that Ft. Knox has a mite of gold dust in it. If the National Debt increases as much as it is... It's nearly empty now, or at least very depleted.

Not to cast a dispersion, though. If you've got the gold, great!

Perhaps it was never gotten to, because no one thought of paying off our debt with gold.
Permalink
| December 3, 2010, 11:52 pm
Quoting Ultramarine .
Actually, and not to put out your balloon, but I doubt very highly that Ft. Knox has a mite of gold dust in it. If the National Debt increases as much as it is... It's nearly empty now, or at least very depleted.

Not to cast a dispersion, though. If you've got the gold, great!

Perhaps it was never gotten to, because no one thought of paying off our debt with gold.
Permalink
| December 3, 2010, 11:52 pm
Quoting Evan Melick
Not a single major currency is based on precious metals now. Currency is valued on a country's ability to produce and service in most any form. From industry to banking. Unfortunately, the world economic situation has gotten to the point where most of the world's currency is basically valued on money they have lend out. The economy is built on debt, plain and simple.

When selling this gold, it could bring in a bit of money, right?
Permalink
| December 3, 2010, 11:58 pm
Quoting Areetsa C
Why would Erik bother? He's got his own superfighters. I'm pretty sure the F-22 is already (as of 2010) effectively obsolete.

Even in Asia?


Permalink
| December 4, 2010, 12:14 am
Quoting Evan Melick
Although the Southern US, (and to a point, the midwest) contains a large number of military complexes, we're talking about 150+ million dollar planes here. The sheer resources required to field even a squadron of such planes, including maintinence of the very touchy plane, etc is a huge cost. You have to remember, the combined resources of the entire US, the foremost military power and economy on the planet, can't even afford to field 200 of them. This is piddly compared to less hyper-advanced jets were even relatively smaller nations air forces can field hundreds if not close to thousand of planes. If you split up the US, you split the economy, and ability to draw on resources, significantly reducing the amount of stuff you can hold on to. Just because, say 60 F-22's may be stationed in the mid-west/prairie region, does not mean just that region of the US + Texas (to use you as an example) could field those 60 jets on their own.

Look at Mr. Ford. Many F-22's are based in Alaska. However, there is no way just Alaska can field those planes on their own, due to their vastly smaller economy. Same with the south.

I have like 6-ish. I've given two to Korea. Bringing it down to 4.
Permalink
| December 4, 2010, 12:16 am
Quoting Dr. Spontaneous
Even if Korea has the ability to produce F-22s in a combat-capable version, it would be rather ignorant upon its capabilities and maintenance programs. Regardless of the ability to sling materials together, no former experience with the plane would mean weeks of training in all fields of support. Anyhow, I see only two squadrons (24 aircraft) being under Korean hands for the next little while. Limited materials, limited experience, a newly integrated military, etc. means very few planes being called upon for service until all the kinks are finished.

I sent over a small group to help them along. The F-22s should be able to decimate anything Korea's neighbors will be able to field.
Permalink
| December 4, 2010, 12:18 am
Quoting Ultramarine .
We've got a 50 mile blank spot along my border. And here's my $500 Mil land purchase: http://www.flickr.com/photos/46934040@N05/5230543066/

Its 25 miles, we agreed on this earlier.
Permalink
| December 4, 2010, 12:30 am
 Group moderator 
Quoting Areetsa C
Why would Erik bother? He's got his own superfighters. I'm pretty sure the F-22 is already (as of 2010) effectively obsolete.

I thought you were the realist? Not even the F-117 is obsolete, except for the advances that have been made within the US. Even the SR-71 still holds records, and it was designed decades ago!

Quoting John Dawn
Its 25 miles, we agreed on this earlier.

Right, my bad. I got the two mixed up.
Permalink
| December 4, 2010, 12:37 am
Quoting Ultramarine .
Right, my bad. I got the two mixed up.

No problem.

On the topic of the F-22 wouldn't more of them be available because of the introduction of the F-35?
Permalink
| December 4, 2010, 12:38 am
 Group moderator 
I have gold. I use it to look rich and impress females. Because I'm FAAAAAST.

So, how many advanced fighters could a stable and expanding northern half of China field?
Permalink
| December 4, 2010, 1:43 am
You think I got this crib, solid gold jet ski and a caviar pool because I'm SLOW? Think again! TIME'S UP. I got all this cause I'm FAAAAASSSSST.
Permalink
| December 4, 2010, 1:46 am
 Group moderator 
Quoting Nick Shelton
You think I got this crib, solid gold jet ski and a caviar pool because I'm SLOW? Think again! TIME'S UP. I got all this cause I'm FAAAAASSSSST.


I'm a nation of Asians. You ain't getting our speed.
Permalink
| December 4, 2010, 2:02 am
Quoting Ultramarine .
I thought you were the realist? Not even the F-117 is obsolete, except for the advances that have been made within the US. Even the SR-71 still holds records, and it was designed decades ago!

Well, the F-117 holds a very specific role of reconnaissance/precision bombing. Air superiority fighters, however, have to be updated frequently during times of unrest as part of an arms race. As I recall, the F-22 entered the design process late in the Cold War. It's not exactly suited to the modern political climate. If you ask me, the whole concept of a stealth fighter is a bit off anyway. They're really hard to lock onto with missiles in the air? Well, there's this little trick that involves shooting things on the ground, and I hear delicate and hugely expensive aircraft can't reliably take off and land on a cratered runway.
Permalink
| December 4, 2010, 4:17 am
Quoting Areetsa C
Well, the F-117 holds a very specific role of reconnaissance/precision bombing. Air superiority fighters, however, have to be updated frequently during times of unrest as part of an arms race. As I recall, the F-22 entered the design process late in the Cold War. It's not exactly suited to the modern political climate. If you ask me, the whole concept of a stealth fighter is a bit off anyway. They're really hard to lock onto with missiles in the air? Well, there's this little trick that involves shooting things on the ground, and I hear delicate and hugely expensive aircraft can't reliably take off and land on a cratered runway.

Few aircraft can.

a F-22 could probably take on multiple less-advanced aircraft at the same time and come out on top. They would be defenseless because they would have nothing to shoot out.
Permalink
| December 4, 2010, 1:27 pm
 Group admin 
Quoting John Dawn
No problem.

On the topic of the F-22 wouldn't more of them be available because of the introduction of the F-35?

What do you mean? The F-35 is more maritime oriented with a more dedicated focus on CAS than air superiority in the sense of continuous air combat. Thus, the F-22 would still be the prime case for air dominance in those states that utilize them. However, the F-22 doesn't really have many competitors and it's rather expensive, so not many will ever hit the production line.
Permalink
| December 4, 2010, 1:53 pm
 Group admin 
Quoting Evan Melick
Yet I'm here to disagree with you, at least partially.

You are correct when it comes to the B/C models headed for the Navy and the Corps.

However, the A models the Air Force plans to get, according to their doctrine will be bearing the brunt responsibility of maintaining air dominance, due to their numbers. They are really just advanced Vipers, supporting the main thrust of highly advanced, but relatively low-numbered F-15's, while still being able to go anywhere, and do anything.

Also, the AF has decided not to replace the A-10's with the -35, due to recent success from the Warthog shown in Afghanistan and Iraq.

The "go anywhere, do anything" philosophy generally means lobbing munitions at targets on the ground because there isn't anything worth sending a high-value airframe against. The A-variant is limited with a rather small bay and the lack of conformal fuel tanks (limited range). If you really want to do something with the Lightening II, you'll have to slap some hardpoints on it and call it safe to kill.

And the A-10 is getting old with its history being slung into the Cold War. Anti-air missiles are going to be the bird-killer in this generation, not silly boys sitting with MGs firing in the air. Stealth capabilities will be needed in the near future if we're to go against a contemporary and well-funded enemy.
Permalink
| December 4, 2010, 3:40 pm
 Group admin 
Quoting Evan Melick
Well, I guess I'm just arguing to argue. :3

However, the DoD has stated a number of times they have fell back in love with the Warthog, and have no plans to retire it for the foreseeable future.

The DOD also stated the M1161 is a grand measure in mobility.
Permalink
| December 4, 2010, 4:00 pm
 Group admin 
Quoting Evan Melick
That's cost, not mobility.

Name the cost.

Exactly. You didn't know what the M1161 was until I showed you. And it's the fact that the DOD is magnifying what it can do even though it's just an ATV with an MG slapped to the back.
Permalink
| December 4, 2010, 4:19 pm
 Group admin 
Quoting Evan Melick
I've never heard of the thing before, I don't know the price. I asked you what the problem with it was and you said cost, which I then responded as being fiscal and resource issue, not one of mobility, which your original response stated. You then agreed with me, and we both decided the DoD has no idea how to aptly apply good use of resources and we moved on.

>.>

I said "grand measure of mobility". Never claimed it wasn't mobile, but the DOD glorified it when, again, it's just an ATV whereas the DOD could have chosen the JAMMA. So, not mobility in itself, but the thought that it is an evolution was what I was hinting at. Which concludes the DOD is full of people that know nothing.
Permalink
| December 4, 2010, 4:44 pm
 Group admin 
Quoting Evan Melick
Well maybe we should put our egos down and realize we're both arguing relatively the same point. Hmm.

I'll let it slide this time. In the future, dire consequences will be at stake.
Permalink
| December 4, 2010, 4:53 pm
 Group moderator 
Quoting Areetsa C

Wow. The only thing I can say is I'm glad people like you don't work for America's defense department.

Permalink
| December 4, 2010, 4:58 pm
 Group admin 
An airborne assault focused on Kamyshev took place today as the first forced entry by the new command rank recently put into play by the Federation. The idea is to have a wide-bank assault with a large headway set as the objective point and then to mop-up behind the airborne assault with light-medium armour and mechanized forces in general. We hope to keep air traffic at a minimum as to reduce the number of targets as possible in fear the enemy has semi-capable anti-air measures acquired from Georgia; pretty much, helicopters are a no-no at the moment.

Anyhow, the attack is too infant to have accurate results as of late. After roughly 72 hours of a "secure" detail being placed upon the area, another assault of similar sorts will attack the city of Achkloy-Martan. This assault should be minimal after a sizable amount of "loyalists" have been reported in this zone. If all goes well, Achkloy will be our SW staging point to stand off against Georgia if the need arises.

Speaking of that later state, the Russian Federation has given the ultimatum of war if Georgia does not withdraw its support from the Caucasus Republic. With S. Ossetia and Abkhazia in support of the Federation, we shall use these states in a coalition retaliation against Georgia. At this time, no reply has been given.
Permalink
| December 4, 2010, 5:18 pm
I think it would be safe to assume everybody in Southern Ontario loves me. Plans are being made for the southern Ontario to be integrated, and negotiations are beginning with much of Northern Canada. I imagine they're pretty scared with the Japanese fleet over there.
Permalink
| December 4, 2010, 5:25 pm
Quoting Jake H.
I think it would be safe to assume everybody in Southern Ontario loves me. Plans are being made for the southern Ontario to be integrated, and negotiations are beginning with much of Northern Canada. I imagine they're pretty scared with the Japanese fleet over there.

Funny cause I live in south Ontario
Permalink
| December 4, 2010, 5:30 pm
Quoting Finn C-Q
Funny cause I live in south Ontario

Orly?

Then we have three members in the 21st Century group who live in Canada :D


By the way, I'm sending a group of techs and trainers, along with some Apaches and production rights to help get things going with the F-22's.
Permalink
| December 4, 2010, 5:34 pm
Quoting Jake H.
Orly?

Then we have three members in the 21st Century group who live in Canada :D


By the way, I'm sending a group of techs and trainers, along with some Apaches and production rights to help get things going with the F-22's.
Like who? I know john and me, you too? Anyway, thanks, you want me to send stuff over to you? :D

Permalink
| December 4, 2010, 5:37 pm
Quoting Finn C-Q
Quoting Jake H.
Orly?

Then we have three members in the 21st Century group who live in Canada :D


By the way, I'm sending a group of techs and trainers, along with some Apaches and production rights to help get things going with the F-22's.
Like who? I know john and me, you too? Anyway, thanks, you want me to send stuff over to you? :D

Nah, I just want to have an ally in Asia.

Ya know, The PCU and Danny are both over there.


Permalink
| December 4, 2010, 5:41 pm
 Group moderator 
Quoting Dr. Spontaneous
I'll let it slide this time. In the future, dire consequences will be at stake.


What the HeII just happened with that conversation...

Anyways, ignorant Awe goes on with his business. In China:
-War goes as usual. Slow, but unceasing advance.
-Churnin out those war machines.
-We've officially asked Taiwan to join the Empire, because we have cookies. No, not really, but we have told them they're welcome to join and fight those pesky commies again.
Permalink
| December 4, 2010, 5:46 pm
 Group moderator 
Quoting Jake H.
Nah, I just want to have an ally in Asia.

Ya know, The PCU and Danny are both over there.



The PCU is on the West Coast of America, bonehead.
Permalink
| December 4, 2010, 5:47 pm
Quoting Jake H.
Nah, I just want to have an ally in Asia.

Ya know, The PCU and Danny are both over there.


If you want a little land too for a little land in your area, I would do so too.
Permalink
| December 4, 2010, 5:48 pm
Quoting Awesome-o-saurus The Not-So-Great

The PCU is on the West Coast of America, bonehead.

Awe = PCU
PCU = Awe
Permalink
| December 4, 2010, 5:52 pm
 Group moderator 
Quoting Jake H.
Awe = PCU
PCU = Awe


>.>

PCU=Nick
China=Awe
Awe=Nick
Nick=China
Awe=PCU
PCU=China

I guess it works.
Permalink
| December 4, 2010, 5:54 pm
Quoting Finn C-Q
If you want a little land too for a little land in your area, I would do so too.

Hhhmm I would be more than willing to help you take some land in the south, to slow down Danny's expansion.

Same thing goes for Tim, anybody touches South America, and I'll send some troops over to help Brikkr.
Permalink
| December 4, 2010, 5:54 pm
 Group moderator 
Quoting Ultramarine .
Wow. The only thing I can say is I'm glad people like you don't work for America's defense department.

I disagree. Areetsa has a very 3rd world way of implementing defense ideas(for example, we have his inquiry about how one might put a few holes into a runway and render an expensive aircraft unable to land), Tactics such as that, ones which a third world country might implement using insurgency, could be a valid threat to an American force at war in a third world country. Now, if someone who thought about such situations (like Areetsa) worked in America's defense department, such a threat might get heard and be given more time to be dealt with, and thus a solution to the problem is more easily reached.
Permalink
| December 4, 2010, 6:02 pm
 Group moderator 
Quoting Finn C-Q
Idea-


Already got a gunship bro.
Permalink
| December 4, 2010, 6:05 pm
 Group admin 
Quoting Awesome-o-saurus The Not-So-Great

What the HeII just happened with that conversation...

Catalyst for a promised war.

The idea of this group was to finally split our little Euro pact we had in the other two. Matt and I versus Jake and Evan; except Evan is on his own leg with Jake being limp in activity.

Quoting Thomas N
Now, if someone who thought about such situations (like Areetsa) worked in America's defense department, such a threat might get heard and be given more time to be dealt with, and thus a solution to the problem is more easily reached.

I'm pretty sure top brass has guerrilla contact covered granted this isn't our first go. Pretty everyone has the same objective thinking against contemporary target. Kill logistics, kill the enemy. Kill public opinion, kill the enemy. Kill morale, kill the enemy. Cold War conflicts pretty much showed the flaws of contemporary forces. As to if anyone gives a rat's rear is another story; in which case this is the prime item of defeat. And politics pretty much kill any chance of winning whatsoever. When you have a war run by Congress, you have a war lost.
Permalink
| December 4, 2010, 6:47 pm
 Group moderator 
Quoting Dr. Spontaneous
I'm pretty sure top brass has guerrilla contact covered granted this isn't our first go. Pretty everyone has the same objective thinking against contemporary target. Kill logistics, kill the enemy. Kill public opinion, kill the enemy. Kill morale, kill the enemy. Cold War conflicts pretty much showed the flaws of contemporary forces. As to if anyone gives a rat's rear is another story; in which case this is the prime item of defeat. And politics pretty much kill any chance of winning whatsoever. When you have a war run by Congress, you have a war lost.

Which is essentially what I was attempting to explain to Ultra, only your words were better than mine were.
Permalink
| December 4, 2010, 7:05 pm
 Group moderator 
Quoting Thomas N
I disagree. Areetsa has a very 3rd world way of implementing defense ideas(for example, we have his inquiry about how one might put a few holes into a runway and render an expensive aircraft unable to land), Tactics such as that, ones which a third world country might implement using insurgency, could be a valid threat to an American force at war in a third world country. Now, if someone who thought about such situations (like Areetsa) worked in America's defense department, such a threat might get heard and be given more time to be dealt with, and thus a solution to the problem is more easily reached.

I have an idea: Launch them from carriers. Actually, against a third-world country, I'd use WWII type aircraft that could land in an open field. I don't know why the US didn't de-mothify the OV-10 to go into Iraq, since they buried their air force in the sand.

Also, that's why the F-35 is a VTOL, looks like someone was thinking ahead.

I didn't say his ideas had no credence, that is a tactic I would employ myself. It was his notion that stealth aircraft are "A bit off" is absurd. Like I said earlier, but if we're going up against Russia, we're gonna need every trump card we've got. And one aircraft that can take on a squadron is my kinda plane.

Quoting Dr. Spontaneous
When you have a war run by Congress, you have a war lost.

Amen! Any war dictated by public opinion is also a war lost. If I had my way, we'd revert to WWII media coverage. Only what the officers want the public to hear would get out. None of this embedded reporter nonsense. Just do a quick Google search on how unscrupulous media coverage of the Falkland War led directly to English deaths; you'll be surprised.
Permalink
| December 4, 2010, 9:11 pm
 Group moderator 
Quoting Dr. Spontaneous
.

Catalyst, eh? Sounds fun. I like it when hardcore military nerds go head to head in battle.
Permalink
| December 4, 2010, 9:31 pm
 Group moderator 
With the recent approach of the PCU to Montana, the vote to join the Western Confederation has passed with a 68% majority in the Montana house. Ratification has gone on to the senate. The PCU is sent a friendly reminder about the Nevada/Utah pact, and there is that territory that they can claim for their own.

A secret project (called SP-1) has begun, the air superiority fighter has started production in one factory.


Permalink
| December 4, 2010, 11:16 pm
All of Ontario is expected to join soon. With the Japanese fleet so closed, it's safe to say they are very worried.
Permalink
| December 4, 2010, 11:26 pm
Quoting Awesome-o-saurus The Not-So-Great

>.>

PCU=Nick
China=Awe
Awe=Nick
Nick=China
Awe=PCU
PCU=China

I guess it works.


God I hate math...
Permalink
| December 4, 2010, 11:36 pm
Sitrep:
Kyrghizstan: they're thrilled to have us running their country again. Really.

Secret projects: I don't know what you're talking about. I don't have any secret projects.

Research projects: accursed resource bottlenecks!

Manufacturing: that's why there's a resource bottleneck. All the material production is busy building up a surplus of our latest kit. No such thing as too many tankbuster helicopters, I say.

Quoting Ultramarine .
I have an idea: Launch them from carriers. Actually, against a third-world country, I'd use WWII type aircraft that could land in an open field. I don't know why the US didn't de-mothify the OV-10 to go into Iraq, since they buried their air force in the sand.
ahead.

Oh look, the third world country has MiG-21s in storage! Game over.


Actually, I'm pretty sure some fighter jets are capable of landings on less-than-ideal terrain. I believe the SEPECAT Jaguar is one of them.

Quoting Ultramarine .
Like I said earlier, but if we're going up against Russia, we're gonna need every trump card we've got. And one aircraft that can take on a squadron is my kinda plane.

Not if the enemy has the same thing. Then you've got two lots of hugely expensive aircraft dropping each other like flies.
Permalink
| December 5, 2010, 7:08 am
There has been a bombing in a Sydney market area, with casualties of 58 killed and 95 injured. We think it is a terrorist group, and we are trying to identify them.
Permalink
| December 5, 2010, 3:17 pm
 Group moderator 
Quoting Evan Melick
Ok, so map of North America as of now:

http://img573.imageshack.us/img573/338/northamerica.png

I'm missing some stuff I know.


3) The Western Confed gets that tiny sliver of land at the tip of the Baja peninsula, correct?
4) Is Nick involved here?
5) Did any of those tensions actually break out into open war among any of the American powers yet?

3) Yes. http://www.flickr.com/photos/46934040@N05/5230543066/
4) On the money receiving end.
5) No, why would it? We're at peace as far as I know.
Permalink
| December 5, 2010, 3:26 pm
Ontario has decided to join the SU.

Nunavut is also expected to join soon with the Japanese fleet so close. That being said, troops are being moved into Ontario, as only 58% of the population supports the decision to join the SU. The troops will also help "encourage" Nunavut.
Permalink
| December 5, 2010, 6:51 pm
Quoting Evan Melick
Ok, so map of North America as of now:

http://img573.imageshack.us/img573/338/northamerica.png

I'm missing some stuff I know.

1) What the heck is going on in NY? Have you two settled on a border? If so, who controls what countries would be much help.
2) WHO is invading Mexico?! I assume that person has most of northern Mexico under their control by now.
3) The Western Confed gets that tiny sliver of land at the tip of the Baja peninsula, correct?
4) Is Nick involved here?
5) Did any of those tensions actually break out into open war among any of the American powers yet?

John has West Point, while I have NY city.
Permalink
| December 5, 2010, 6:52 pm
Quoting danny morgan
If I were you, I'd drop all of them. I have plans to eventually take most of the countries you mentioned, and I won't hesitate in still going ahead and taking them if you do occupy them. Btw what is the UKS?

But so dose he. My advice to both of you, is to just hurry up.


By the way, Finn I'm working on that Chinese gunships.
Permalink
| December 5, 2010, 8:00 pm
In The Commonwealth...

Production of four of the seven ordered Recluse-Class Guided Missile Cruisers has been completed. They are called HMS Recluse, HMS Drake, HMS Hood, and HMS Thatcher. They are curently going through sea trials, and once they pass pictures of the ship will be unveiled to the world. Ten more F-35 As were completed, and Parliament is reviewing whether or not the F-35 A can perform as a fighter interceptor platform. Two type-45 destroyers have had their radars upgraded, and they also will receive another upgrade allowing them to carry Tomahawk Cruise Missiles. Like many other nations, The Commonwealth declines The CDC's offer to build an embassy in Britain. We do not know where they got the notion to just randomly build embassies in other countries without their consent first. Finally The Royal Navy is reviewing whether or not to change two of the four Vanguard-Class Ballistic Missile Submarines into guided missile varients.
Permalink
| December 5, 2010, 8:07 pm
Quoting Evan Melick
What about the rest of NYC?

I'm pretty sure you got it right on your map.

I can' remember what John wanted, but I'm happy as long as I get NY city.
Permalink
| December 5, 2010, 8:56 pm
Quoting Evan Melick
I meant New York state, woops. Ok, I'll just draw a straight line then and call it a day.
Fort Drum to orange county.

Permalink
| December 5, 2010, 10:41 pm
Quoting Evan Melick
Ok, so map of North America as of now:

http://img573.imageshack.us/img573/338/northamerica.png

I'm missing some stuff I know.

2) WHO is invading Mexico?! I assume that person has most of northern Mexico under their control by now.
4) Is Nick involved here?
5) Did any of those tensions actually break out into open war among any of the American powers yet?

2)I did
4)West coast of Mexico is going to him
5)no

Permalink
| December 5, 2010, 10:47 pm
 Group moderator 
Isn't it about time for another ICF yet?

The Western Confederation has lifted all previous environmental restrictions on urban and infrastructure development. Power development and other utilities have been turned over to the civilian companies with no restrictions. Yellowstone park in Wyoming has hence been selected for the site of a new geothermal plant. Out of respect for national monuments, it has been located in an aesthetically unpleasant area on the very outskirts of the park. Dozens more sites have been opened for oil drilling, and uranium mines have been expanded. Three more sites have been started for nuclear power plants, the others nearing completion.

Our first ships are about 40% done, being three destroyers.

Ten C-130s are loading up with men and equipment bound for San Jose, Baja. They are carrying 800 soldiers, mainly marines, and much material for defenses. Some old Scorpion light tanks will be tagging along as well. They will be joined there by the fleet (that set sail a couple days ago) there in eight days.
Permalink
| December 6, 2010, 12:38 am
 Group moderator 
In China:
-Same stuff as last time. Obviously, no one reads these, otherwise people would actually know I'm here.
Permalink
| December 6, 2010, 12:46 am
 Group moderator 
Quoting Awesome-o-saurus The Not-So-Great
In China:
-Same stuff as last time. Obviously, no one reads these, otherwise people would actually know I'm here.

Wait, you're a member of this group? When did you join?
Permalink
| December 6, 2010, 12:49 am
 Group moderator 
Quoting Ultramarine .
Wait, you're a member of this group? When did you join?


>.>

<.<



Permalink
| December 6, 2010, 12:51 am
The fighting is now over in Cape Verde. With three major islands(Santiago, Sao Vincente, Sao Antao) under our control, the leader of the Cape Verdians has surrendered to us. We are now moving in to secure the rest of the islands. Official review of how forces did has now commenced by high ranking officers. In question is a proposal to commision at least another Marine battalion.
Permalink
| December 6, 2010, 7:28 am
 Group admin 
A special UFS envoy is on the way to the untouched state of New Jersey, to advise them in case of a neighboring country wants to gobble them up. I will help achieve favorable terms, and make sure that whatever decision they make is the best possible for the Garden State.

And no, I don't have any North American ambitions.
Permalink
| December 6, 2010, 9:09 am
Quoting Matt Hacker
A special UFS envoy is on the way to the untouched state of New Jersey, to advise them in case of a neighboring country wants to gobble them up. I will help achieve favorable terms, and make sure that whatever decision they make is the best possible for the Garden State.

And no, I don't have any North American ambitions.


Yay someone finally has intentions of claiming NJ.

Permalink
| December 6, 2010, 10:20 am
 Group admin 
Quoting henry wang

Yay someone finally has intentions of claiming NJ.


I'm not going to claim it...
Permalink
| December 6, 2010, 11:17 am
After much talk, the Philippines has joined our nation. Don't troll me
Permalink
| December 6, 2010, 3:09 pm
In Brazil life goes on, or does it?
-Taxes have been implemented onto the population with around 60% support.
-That terrorist group has finally been tracked down. A squad of riot police and soldiers raided the headquarters and engaged in a heavy firefight against the enemy. The task force called for support and we rolled a tank down the street and the insurgents surrendered. The losses are: 4 Riot policemen and 2 soldiers. 11 enemies were killed and 4 are to be tried.
-Plans for updating and expanding the Panama canal have been put into motion and it is expected to be finished by late January, although the whole thing won't be shut down only parts will be. Regulations for shipping have begun and a schedule has been laid down.
-Carrier is halfway to N' Orleans.
Permalink
| December 6, 2010, 4:24 pm
At Europe:

Please stay out of America. Remember I have ASBMs.
Permalink
| December 6, 2010, 4:38 pm
Quoting Jake H.
At Europe:

Please stay out of America. Remember I have ASBMs.

I forsee airsikes in your near future. Not from me, though.
Permalink
| December 6, 2010, 4:49 pm
Quoting Brikkr ™
I forsee airsikes in your near future. Not from me, though.

I was just giving a friendly warning.

It wouldn't be my fault if a technician 'accidentally' fired all of my ASBMs at the Europeans.

>_>
<_<
Permalink
| December 6, 2010, 5:04 pm
Quoting Finn C-Q
After much talk, the Philippines has joined our nation. Don't troll me

I'm sorry, but I would be doing this to anyone else. They have a population much greater than your nation, and are mostly Islamic, whereas you have non-religious and Presbyterian. If it's okay with the admins then fine. However in the terms of this group, annexation should take a month, at least without force.


Permalink
| December 6, 2010, 5:14 pm
Quoting Will G.
I'm sorry, but I would be doing this to anyone else. They have a population much greater than your nation, and are mostly Islamic, whereas you have non-religious and Presbyterian. If it's okay with the admins then fine. However in the terms of this group, annexation should take a month, at least without force.

But he's got commies and nukes, who wouldn't want to join him?

Permalink
| December 6, 2010, 5:20 pm
Today the South is conducting a major operation that will play a key role in our survival on the continent. The peaceful invasion of Kansas, Iowa, Wisconsin, Indiana and Illinois.

How it's going to work:
We're going to warn of the invasion, and then send in soldiers, if anyone shoots at us we'll shoot back. Then we seize the capitol, hold elections for governor, and annex it as a state.

Here's a timeline:
Now-The CSS invades via land (moderate fighting)
2 Days-We invade via air (moderate fighting0
1 Week-We arrive at the capitols (heavier fighting)
1 week-Important military technology seized
2 Weeks-Capitol Seized
2 1/2 weeks-Elections Prepared
3 weeks-State militarily integrated
4 weeks-Governor elections
5 weeks-states become fully Southern
6 weeks-States fully integrated

If anyone has any problems feel free to discuss them with me.
Permalink
| December 6, 2010, 5:38 pm
Quoting Finn C-Q
After much talk, the Philippines has joined our nation. Don't troll me

http://www.flickr.com/photos/jake_h/5238927803/
I finished the gunship!

So, instead of producing Apaches, maybe you could produce these? Then we could trade. 1:1
Permalink
| December 6, 2010, 5:41 pm
 Group admin 
Quoting Jake H.


At least my allies and enemies in North America are now known. And how much more clear do I need to make it that IM NOT GOING INTO NORTH AMERICA. Since everyone just gobbles up states I figured having someone call the shots for the states would be much more interesting.
Permalink
| December 6, 2010, 5:48 pm
Quoting Matt Hacker
Quoting Jake H.


At least my allies and enemies in North America are now known. And how much more clear do I need to make it that IM NOT GOING INTO NORTH AMERICA. Since everyone just gobbles up states I figured having someone call the shots for the states would be much more interesting.

Well, those of us on the east coast support that doctrine...

We had a nice discussion about it a while ago.
Permalink
| December 6, 2010, 6:11 pm
 Group moderator 
Quoting Finn C-Q
After much talk, the Philippines has joined our nation. Don't troll me


Trololololo
Ohohohohoho
Ahahahahaha
Ohohohohoho
Ahahahahaha
Trololololooooo

Edward Khil aside, I support this action. Why?

Because he can later fight over it with someone.
Permalink
| December 6, 2010, 6:39 pm
Group moderators have locked this conversation.
Other topics
student teen kid toy play lego child video game hobby blocks construction toy legos fun games



LEGO models my own creation MOCpages toys shop Diplomats and LegionsMilitary


You Your home page | LEGO creations | Favorite builders
Activity Activity | Comments | Creations
Explore Explore | Recent | Groups
MOCpages is an unofficial, fan-created website. LEGO® and the brick configuration are property of The LEGO Group, which does not sponsor, own, or endorse this site.
©2002-2014 Sean Kenney Design Inc | Privacy policy | Terms of use