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Lucky number 7
-Expansion in the Americas
-Southeast Asian tensions
-Europe-American rivalry continues
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| December 27, 2010, 9:50 pm
Quoting Matt Hacker
Lucky number 7
-Expansion in the Americas
-Southeast Asian tensions
-Europe-American rivalry continues

"Viper 2, this is actual, we're about to end all this, stand by"
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| December 27, 2010, 11:02 pm
Quoting Finn C-Q
"Viper 2, this is actual, we're about to end all this, stand by"

What a cool kid, I bet your skateboard has light-up wheels.
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| December 27, 2010, 11:12 pm
Quoting Danny Morgan
What a cool kid, I bet your skateboard has light-up wheels.

It does, and I love it

>.>

Not really
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| December 27, 2010, 11:13 pm
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Nation building update that I know no one will remember about.

Norway is taking longer to fully assimilate as previously thought. Nevertheless, it will most likely be finished by next week (when the internet domain changes to .ufs).

Most dissent in Norway has calmed, and there is no more expected opposition.

The four Allegiance destroyers are going to be launched in two days.

Development of the strangely controversial Low Observable Air to Shipping Missile (LOASM) is nearing completion. Radar cross section is about 75% reduced from conventional ones, albeit at a slight cost in airspeed due to an increased weight.

Switching the roles of aircraft is nearly complete, and the conformal fuel tanks for the F35 have finally been developed. A stealthy external ordinance pod is also nearing completion

Today at the range, the new attack helicopter was fitted with standard ATGMs and cannon, and successfully engaged 10 simulated armored targets. The only "catch" of the program is our old ATGMs, which need immediate replacement to be effective. We are interested in adapting the new Russian ATGM technology (currently under development) to our new attack helicopter.


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| December 28, 2010, 12:29 am
The Indo Union is exciting to announce to the world of the construction of a new possible trend of aircraft. Combining fighter jet technology with helicopter frames to make a kind of hybrid between helicopters and planes. We're thinking of calling them 'Aerocopters'. If successful, the 'aerocopters' will have the near speed and advanced look of Attack Planes, while being more agile than any air vehicle yet devised, with of course, hovering capabilities.

The newly found Aerocopter company (owned by Indonesia of course) will possibly make their own advanced aerocopter versions of such aircraft as black hawks, spy planes, and a possible hybrid between a chinook and AC-130. I can't really explain it properly, so I'll just make my ideas in Lego and post them here soonish.

Oh, and about Sulawesi:
our marines moved in, suffering minimal casualties, and only 4 deaths out of the 200 advancing marines. Our forces now occupy the coastal towns around the northern end of Sulawesi, and air raids are taking place every night.

Overall, it is a hopeful time for the IU.
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| December 28, 2010, 12:51 am
Quoting Danny Morgan
The Indo Union is exciting to announce to the world of the construction of a new possible trend of aircraft. Combining fighter jet technology with helicopter frames to make a kind of hybrid between helicopters and planes. We're thinking of calling them 'Aerocopters'. If successful, the 'aerocopters' will have the near speed and advanced look of Attack Planes, while being more agile than any air vehicle yet devised, with of course, hovering capabilities.

The newly found Aerocopter company (owned by Indonesia of course) will possibly make their own advanced aerocopter versions of such aircraft as black hawks, spy planes, and a possible hybrid between a chinook and AC-130. I can't really explain it properly, so I'll just make my ideas in Lego and post them here soonish.

I really don't think it'd work. Helicopter rotors would add an extreme amount of drag just with the extra equipment and power drain needed to run the rotor. There's definitely no way such a jet powered gyrocopter could break the sound barrier.
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| December 28, 2010, 3:41 am
Quoting Areetsa C
Quoting Danny Morgan
The Indo Union is exciting to announce to the world of the construction of a new possible trend of aircraft. Combining fighter jet technology with helicopter frames to make a kind of hybrid between helicopters and planes. We're thinking of calling them 'Aerocopters'. If successful, the 'aerocopters' will have the near speed and advanced look of Attack Planes, while being more agile than any air vehicle yet devised, with of course, hovering capabilities.

The newly found Aerocopter company (owned by Indonesia of course) will possibly make their own advanced aerocopter versions of such aircraft as black hawks, spy planes, and a possible hybrid between a chinook and AC-130. I can't really explain it properly, so I'll just make my ideas in Lego and post them here soonish.

I really don't think it'd work. Helicopter rotors would add an extreme amount of drag just with the extra equipment and power drain needed to run the rotor. There's definitely no way such a jet powered gyrocopter could break the sound barrier.

Yeah, when I said fighter jet technology, I shouldn't have said that, I meant it's a cross between a plane and a helicopter. I've made a miniscale version, and will post it to flickr when I get the chance.
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| December 28, 2010, 3:54 am
Develoment of a TUSK-like add-on to Osório tanks has been started it is deemed JUST, Jungle/Urban Survivability Tech. On a different note, the Civilian M1 and Military M1 Batteries are now available for export. Civvies are $105 a piece and Militarys are $375 a piece. These things ain't cheap.
Also a Submarine finding Sonar device has been built. It is called ASSETS, Anti Sub Scanning ElecTronic Sonar. It will increase the likeliness of finding stealth subs by %75.
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| December 28, 2010, 8:06 am
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Today in the Western Confederation:

Deliberations continue in Guatemala over the surrender terms imposed by the WC as follows:
1. Guatemalan sovereignty would be honored
2. There would be no occupation imposed
3. Granting of land for two naval bases and one airbase with only necessary personnel
4. Significant economic reinvestment would be enacted by the Western Confederation
5. Guatemalan military assets could be called into use on behalf of the Western Confederation for a maximum of six months out of every year
6. The establishment of a Guatemalan Air Force, with planes supplied by the WC would make their country stronger

While the government was deciding what to do about these 'demands,' two F-89s flew over the capital at roof-top levels unopposed. It was a message: we can do whatever we want, and you won't be able to retaliate. It was a scene very reminiscent of the 1954 faux war. In a similar decision, the Guatemalan government has decided to accept the terms, realizing that not only was much greater power than theirs displayed, but it was greatly tempered. precision-guided bombs landed with specific intent on minimalizing casualties. The navy was put out of commission rather than be blasted out of the water as it could have been done. Taking into account all of this, Guatemala has placed itself at the WC's mercy.

If anyone feels that this was too fast, we can deal with that later. However, please Google the 1954 toppling of the government then, and see if you think it couldn't happen again.

The large hangars on Midway are nearly completed, and should be by January 2nd or so. With this news, another flight of ten F-16Fs, 5 B-1Bs, and 10 F-15Cs have flown to Baja where they will be transferred to Midway once the hangars are completed. 2 C-130s have been loaded up with support personnel and a dozen or so marines (to join the 50 or so already there) who will service the aircraft or man the defenses.

Quoting Brikkr ™

How many would it take to power a carrier and how long would each battery last?
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| December 28, 2010, 10:33 am
Construction of that Pacific naval base goes well. It is priority 1 after all.
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| December 28, 2010, 11:35 am
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Quoting Jake H.
Construction of that Pacific naval base goes well. It is priority 1 after all.

If it's on Wake or Palmyra Atoll, you owe me...

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| December 28, 2010, 11:46 am
Quoting Ultramarine .
If it's on Wake or Palmyra Atoll, you owe me...

lulz

If I was going to do something there I would've claimed them a lot sooner, and if I was planning on taking them you would know by now. It's some island that starts with a T.
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| December 28, 2010, 11:51 am
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Quoting Jake H.
lulz

If I was going to do something there I would've claimed them a lot sooner, and if I was planning on taking them you would know by now. It's some island that starts with a T.

If it's Truk, I don't think the IU will like you...
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| December 28, 2010, 11:57 am
In The Commonwealth...
-Construction of our six Recluse-Class Cruisers is going very well, and they will be completed in two weeks. Construction of our Falklands-Class Carrier also is going very well, and will be completed in another month.
-The Royal Navy has asked BAE to design a new class of submarines, that will be both silent and fast. This hopefully will be done by February.
-The upgrading of the F-35 A to the F-35 D is nearly complete. The new fighter will be more of an interceptor. It will have better jamming, better radar, better maneuverability, better speed, and will carry more AA missiles. These better attributes combined with the Longbow Missile (A long range AA missile) will make the F-35D a deadly and stealthy aircraft. But, the F-35 A will still be produced, except used as a ground attack aircraft.
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| December 28, 2010, 12:15 pm
Quoting Brendan Dore
Then wouldn't you just be remaking the V-22?

No, though the concept is somewhat similar. The concept for Aerocopters is base partly from Gyrocopters and Rotodynes, only considered far more effective than both of these.

@ Jake taking Truk:
Uh, sorry, I don't know where Truk is, but if it's not in Indonesia, I'm sure that's fine.
EDIT:

I found where Truk is, it's part of Micronesia which the IU had future plans to expand to. However, for the moment, we're not going to challenge you over it.

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| December 28, 2010, 4:51 pm
@Danny way up there at the top: Some credit for that quote should be directed my way.

In Alberta, Edmonton is being surrounded, with White Op forces being inserted in strategic areas to secure important buildings.

In Hawaii, the smaller islands have been taken, with only the Big Island left. We have taken to extensively bombing power facilities to give us an advantage in night operations.

But this isn't a total one-sided battle. Before the PCU arrived at the Islands the current government must have moved some of the aircraft and naval craft away from Pearl Harbor and taken them to the Big Island. A Lockheed U-2 spy plane was flying over the Island when it spotted two Ticonderoga cruisers and a Los Angeles class submarine holding on the east coast of the Island. A Strike Force of the John Hood, 2 captured Ticonderogas, and a Virginia class submarine are moving to engage.
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| December 28, 2010, 10:42 pm
Quoting Nick Shelton
@Danny way up there at the top: Some credit for that quote should be directed my way.

In Alberta, Edmonton is being surrounded, with White Op forces being inserted in strategic areas to secure important buildings.

In Hawaii, the smaller islands have been taken, with only the Big Island left. We have taken to extensively bombing power facilities to give us an advantage in night operations.

But this isn't a total one-sided battle. Before the PCU arrived at the Islands the current government must have moved some of the aircraft and naval craft away from Pearl Harbor and taken them to the Big Island. A Lockheed U-2 spy plane was flying over the Island when it spotted two Ticonderoga cruisers and a Los Angeles class submarine holding on the east coast of the Island. A Strike Force of the John Hood, 2 captured Ticonderogas, and a Virginia class submarine are moving to engage.

Yeah I got that from Awe who probably got that from you.
I'll customize my own one:
What a cool kid, I bet you shoes light up when you walk.
Meh, doesn't sound as legit.

Anyway,

IU forces have not yet advanced towards the center of Sulawesi, but are still hanging around the coastal towns now occupied by us. The plan is to accumulate a staggeringly large ground force that will take down the warlords and their henchmen/followers/members in one hit. Air raids continue.

The prototype for a new aircraft (the newly named aerocopter type) has been tested and is a total success. Production begins the moment I post it to Flickr (which probably won't be until the weekend). The aircraft will be called 'A1 Valkyrie MRVTOL (multi role vertical take off and landing)
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| December 28, 2010, 10:52 pm
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Day 1.5 update:

The Western Confederation, in accordance with its treaty with Alaska, hereby announces that an act of protection exists over that country. Anyone who attacks them will find themselves at war with us.

This is just a counter to the relative inactivity of my ally, and my desire to protect him should anyone decide to take advantage of it.
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| December 29, 2010, 1:27 am
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Quoting Nick Shelton
@Danny way up there at the top: Some credit for that quote should be directed my way.


Sorry Nick, I can't give credit. Come back when you can supply information that you used it before I, MMM, said it to Dano during the great COP tank WIP flamewar of June '10.
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| December 29, 2010, 1:58 am
Quoting Awesome-o-saurus The Not-So-Great

Sorry Nick, I can't give credit. Come back when you can supply information that you used it before I, MMM, said it to Dano during the great COP tank WIP flamewar of June '10.

I was there home boi.
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| December 29, 2010, 2:00 am
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Quoting Nick Shelton
I was there home boi.


Yea, but as far as I know, I was the first to use it.

Anyways, it's the usual in China. Just to stay partly on topic.
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| December 29, 2010, 2:02 am
Quoting Awesome-o-saurus The Not-So-Great

Sorry Nick, I can't give credit. Come back when you can supply information that you used it before I, MMM, said it to Dano during the great COP tank WIP flamewar of June '10.

Um, I dont remember this :S

Or is this another 'Dano'? Beggar pie calls me Dano so I thought you meant me.
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| December 29, 2010, 2:11 am
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Quoting Danny Morgan
Um, I dont remember this :S

Or is this another 'Dano'? Beggar pie calls me Dano so I thought you meant me.


It's a very odd and funny story that involves Pyrefyre on Flickr walking into my photostream and trying to mess with me. I didn't take it too well, and things escalated. It ended with me telling Dano he was so cool his skateboard had light up wheels. It was a lulfest.
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| December 29, 2010, 2:25 am
Quoting Awesome-o-saurus The Not-So-Great

It's a very odd and funny story that involves Pyrefyre on Flickr walking into my photostream and trying to mess with me. I didn't take it too well, and things escalated. It ended with me telling Dano he was so cool his skateboard had light up wheels. It was a lulfest.

Lol, can you post a link so I can see it?
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| December 29, 2010, 2:59 am
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Quoting Danny Morgan
Lol, can you post a link so I can see it?


Find it on my photostream somewhere. It's that COP tank that looks WWI-style, before it was finished. It should have over 100 comments on it.

Now, back on topic!
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| December 29, 2010, 3:21 am
In the CSS we has a hood Christmas day, with no combat whatsoever. The troops all received new socks, underwear and boots, which pleased them and kept them warm.

"Don't Ask Don't Tell" will remain in the CSS for now.

Vehicles from Venezuela are being examined by our engineers and given a new Confederate paint job.

The first troops moved into the gang-run Chicago, and began creating checkpoints around the city.
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| December 29, 2010, 11:34 am
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Today in the Western Confederation:

Three officers of the WCHC and their honor guard attended the treaty signing ceremony in Guatemala this morning. Things were lighthearted, since there was no bloodshed, there were no hard feelings. Drinks were served after the ceremony, and toasts were made to the future of the countries. Guatemalans took the news rather well. They have a history of being used this way and that for whatever colonial powers in the past desired, so it is a mere continuance of the past. Plus, they stand to receive much in the way of economic reinvestment, and a strengthening of their place in the continent. On that subject, Puerta de Hierro and Puerto Barrios have been granted as WC ports; Chanjoyon as the site for the air base.

SAC has requested the further deployment of the B-1s and B-52s to the theater. The remaining 30 Mig-60s and 10 OV-10s will be handed over to the Guatemalans under our portion of the treaty, this will be the establishment of the first Guatemalan Air Force. Training will commence as soon as our support personnel arrive.

The Guatemalans have been given a $170 Million contract for building 30 fast transport craft (FTCs) which will form the backbone of a new merchant fleet. Each vessel must be able to carry 2,000 TEU while making a minimum of 35 Knots. The WC engineers will also work alongside the Guatemalans on repairing their naval vessels.

The WCHC has commissioned the creation of a new type of special forces, called Parachute Umbrella Shipping Under Pressure (aka PUSH-UP). They will be expertly trained aerial droppers that will deliver human and material cargo in any place at any time with the greatest of accuracy. The logistical unit will consist of all 30 operational C-130J, and a further 20 C-130Ks when they are finished (production having resumed a couple weeks ago, with slight improvements in Montana).

Speaking of that state, the Montana National Guard's improvised weapons which are being looked at are some rather surprising lash-ups; including an armored train. Just thought I'd mention that, because it will soon be making an appearance when it is shipped down to Guatemala.
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| December 29, 2010, 3:30 pm
hey Areetsa and Ultra and anyone else interested in that new half helicopter half attack plane I was talking about. It's here!
http://www.flickr.com/photos/46590237@N08/5304652101/
please tell me what you think.
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| December 29, 2010, 8:40 pm
In the CDC, we have begun to experiment with some of our old equipment to find more efficient and effective usage for otherwise worthless material. We are mounting M242 Bushmaster weapon systems onto our 12 M41 Walker Bulldog Light tanks, replacing the utterly useless primary gun, and converting them into IFVs. A turret must still be found or developed for this new role, however we have high prospects. We are mounting ZU-23-2 23mm AA guns onto our waste-of-space T-34s. They will replace the much outdated turret, and turn the vehicle into a self propelled AA battery. To avoid confusion, it is being re-designated the M92 Air Defense Platform. A delegation has been sent to Isreal to observe their Achzarit HAPC, and design a variant for our own use. We have also begun to look into remote piloting systems for training aircraft.
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| December 29, 2010, 9:46 pm
Quoting Danny Morgan
hey Areetsa and Ultra and anyone else interested in that new half helicopter half attack plane I was talking about. It's here!
http://www.flickr.com/photos/46590237@N08/5304652101/
please tell me what you think.

My ISP's gone back to blocking Flickr all of a sudden, so yeah.
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| December 29, 2010, 11:34 pm
The construction of Naval Station Newfoundland began last week, with the first units arriving January 30th.
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| December 30, 2010, 4:40 am
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Today, in the Western Confederation:

The freighters of the fleet will transfer 100 marines to the LPD, and then head back to Corpus Christi. While the LPD, the cutters, and two Cyclone PCs will remain in the Guatemalan territory, the submarine, WCS Denver and Houston, and the other two Cyclone PCs will leave the area. They will proceed around the tip of S. America heading for the Pacific, where they will make anchorage off Dall Island in the Aleutians as part of the USNA agreement.

Production continues on the F-29, reaching 35 so far. They will be stationed on the Great Falls in two days, minus the three on the Denver. The Lexington's engine is about 90% completed. Miscellaneous repairs continue aboard her.

Midway received delivery of the XMII Long-range radar array this afternoon by way of C-130. Installation will take place after the hangars are completed and the support personnel arrive.

Enlistment has begun for the PUSH-UPs, several dozen Nebraskans jumping the gun and requesting enlistment privileges. Training will begin at the end of January.
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| December 30, 2010, 5:30 pm
In the CDC, our military is undergoing several drastic reorganizations, and due to this, our readiness levels have dropped significantly.
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| December 30, 2010, 10:53 pm
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I'm sorry all, I promised myself I wouldn't do this, but there is just so many incorrect points here to be pushed aside.

Quoting Ultramarine .
...misguided affections...

So, suddenly, because someone's biological makeup is different and their genetic makes them like people of the same gender, their affections are "misguided"? There is nothing wrong, and nothing misguided, with homos__ual views.

It is no more correct to be attracted to someone of the opposite gender than it is to be to the same gender. Both conditions are perfectly natural, biological tendencies, and only the fear of the different makes people mark homos__uality as wrong.

Quoting Ultramarine .
...what is very much hara__ment...

actually, it isn't. If a straight man in a bar makes his affections for a girl there known, and she is uncomfortable with it, is that hara__ment? If it is, then society has really low standards for such a condition.

Its the same as the situation you mentioned above. A gay man harboring affections for another male is no different that a straight man harboring affection for a female. In either case, politely asking them to stop would suffice, but to consider it actually heinous is going too far.

Quoting Ultramarine .
If you haven't found (and I sincerely pray you never do) yourself in that situation, I'm glad for you.
I should think that if I found myself in such a situation, that I would be flattered. For any person, regardless of their preferences and regardless of mine, who considers me an object worth their affection would be complimenting me to make such affections known.

Quoting Ultramarine .
As for your second point about the act of coercion, it has happened, and does

Did I say that there are no gay rapists? No. I said that not every gay is a rapist.

It is wrong to judge the entire population of gays by a minority of gay rapists. It is wrong to fear all gays because of a minority of gay rapists.

If you want to bring statistics into this, there is actually a higher percentage of rapists in the population of straight males than there are in the population of gay males.

Quoting Ultramarine .
Not that it is any more unforgivable than a guy doing it to a woman, and I would be the first to impose and enforce the death penalty for the latter. However, any such action, should be viewed as atrocious even by yourself. Even if only one case occurred, you yourself should agree it is one case too many, no?


I agree. It is just as wrong for a man to ape a woman as it is for a man to rape another man. Both crimes are on the same level of wrongness, and if you think the death penalty applies in both cases, so be it.

However,going further in the case of gay rapists is wrong. Both crimes are equally heinous, so why should one type be prosecuted more severely.

It is also completely wrong to limit the rights of all gays, based on the fear of a minority of gay rapists. Not all gays are rapists, and not all gays deserve to have their rights taken away because of a fear based on the few gay rapists.
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| December 30, 2010, 11:17 pm

"actually, it isn't. If a straight man in a bar makes his affections for a girl there known, and she is uncomfortable with it, is that hara__ment? If it is, then society has really low standards for such a condition."
At least in America
>.>
<.<
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| December 30, 2010, 11:26 pm
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I lol'd.

In China: The usual. Our HAT-1 Mk. IIs are making short work of PRC defenses. The tanks are hungry though...
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| December 30, 2010, 11:36 pm
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I actually have to laugh that none of these comments are even being sent to moderation ;)

Quick update for the UFS

Due to lowered size of military, maximum effectiveness is needed. A new SOSUS system is being developed, and the locations of the bases shall remain top secret.

UFS Prime Minister received a message stating "The Special Job is Done."

Ex-Norwegian P-3C Orions are going to be based out of Iceland from here on.

Low Rate Initial Production of the new Attack Helicopter has begun, name is pending.

Our category "A" units are being issued their brand new AK-7 assault rifles (a successor to the AK-5 currently in Swedish service, and NOT to be confused with Russian designs). The men trained on this system have praised the 6.8mms stopping power, armor penetration, and long range accuracy.
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| December 30, 2010, 11:38 pm
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Quoting Thomas N

For purposes of the group, I shall overlook this and not rebuttal. I'm just going to say that it isn't a different 'Genetic makeup' it is a choice. Hey, they say they've found a "God gene" that intoxicates people like me to believe in a 'mythical' God; so why haven't they found a "Gay gene" that causes the condition? If you have any further questions, I will be happy to answer it in an FM. This is not the proper forum.
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| December 30, 2010, 11:45 pm
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Quoting Ultramarine .
so why haven't they found a "Gay gene" that causes the condition?


Because the Human genome is bigger than Jones' truck and storage center.
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| December 30, 2010, 11:52 pm
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Quoting Awesome-o-saurus The Not-So-Great

Because the Human genome is bigger than Jones' truck and storage center.

Then how on earth did they isolate the "God gene?"
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| December 31, 2010, 12:12 am
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Quoting Ultramarine .
Then how on earth did they isolate the "God gene?"


Never heard of this myself, but maybe they're not done yet.
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| December 31, 2010, 12:16 am
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I'm going to pipe in here. Maybe they have mapped it, but considering the inherent complexities of the human genome, I wouldn't be surprised if they had no clue about what alot of these did, just sayin.
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| December 31, 2010, 12:19 am
Weather delays in Vanuatu have forced the offensive to be begin on New Year's Eve. The bombardment will begin around 0500, and infantry will move in around 0600. The infantry will stealthily surround the fort, and then attack the bunkers surrounding the fortress. When the bunkers are destroyed and tanks and infantry can attack the fortress, the terrorists will not be able to flee from the battle because we will have them surrounded. If the New Year's Offensive proves to be successful, the whole island will be secure of the terrorists and, according to intelligence statistics, destroy much of their forces operating in the Vanuatu chain of Islands.

And a new light tank has been produced for dense jungle fighting.
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| December 31, 2010, 12:38 am
Aww frak

I wrote a really over detailed 8 paragraph report on the situation in Sulawesi, but I got signed out of Mocpages and lost the whole thing. I might type it up later if I can be bothered, but basically we're working on getting the whole island of Sulawesi blockaded and scare the Warlords into surrender.
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| December 31, 2010, 1:12 am
Quoting Ultramarine .
Quoting Thomas N


Acutally, they did. According to several scientific studies, 1 and 10 Humans have it. I believe 1/40 goats are have the genome, but it is much more common with other species. Heck, 2 penguins at the Central Park Zoo are h0m0. The point of this being, being g_y is completely normal. People have been g_ys for thousands of years, and because your god says YOU can't be, don't try to limit what other nonbelieving g_ys can do.
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| December 31, 2010, 8:50 am
In the CDC, 45 members of a Marxist terrorist group in the Dominican state managed to break into an arms warehouse and captured 20 of our M3 37mm WWII vintage AT guns. After being surrounded in the warehouse, they attempted to fire one of the pieces at a police squad car. Apparently the guns were in such poor condition, that upon firing, that the entire assembly exploded and sent smoldering pieces of shrapnel in all directions. 4 of the terrorists were killed, and 11 were injured. No friendly casualties were sustained, and the terrorists were quick to surrender. All old ordnance is now undergoing thorough safety inspections, and we are hoping the gun was simply defective, and that we wont have to get rid of our stocks. Extra security is being assigned to our arms depots.
The former Cuban "Black Wasps" and Bahaman Commando units are now officially merging, under the new name of I R.A.I.D. (Rapid Attack Insertive Deployment) Squadron. Under the Administration of the Navy, they will specialize in covert operations, hostage rescue, and counter terrorism. This unit will be the first to receive the new Modular Combat Uniform, complete with BattleCom Integrated Communication gear. We hope to send them out for advanced training, however they will begin intense combat training domestically at a new MOUT site (being called The Campus by locals), and we have hired some former French commandos to assist in this.
/strikes fear into hearts of evil dooers ;)
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| December 31, 2010, 10:38 am
I hate all of this gene stuff, it makes me feel insecure. I feel like I'M not in control of my decisions/tastes.




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| December 31, 2010, 11:18 am
Quoting Ultramarine .
Then how on earth did they isolate the "God gene?"

thankfully that's still a hypothesis.
whew I feel better ;P
http://www.narth.com/docs/istheregene.html
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Biology_and_sexual_orientation
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/God_gene
I feel compelled to quote my old history teacher...sadly I can't quite remember what he said something about how if you can make excuses by saying 'it's a gene I can't help it' then a serial killer could do the same thing. or something along those lines.
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| December 31, 2010, 11:37 am
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Beyond this point no discussion of the topics of sexual orientation/ genetics on this topic will be tolerated. All posts related will be deleted.
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| December 31, 2010, 12:03 pm
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Quoting Matt Hacker
Beyond this point no discussion of the topics of sexual orientation/ genetics on this topic will be tolerated. All posts related will be deleted.

FFFFFUUUUU!

Anyhow, I was out since Christmas because I managed to tackle my laptop and splice the charging cable, so I'm going to get my two cents in.

With that said, I think Ultramarine is actually pulling a very good card with the DADT matter seeing as though the American Southwest is very much filled with social conservative values. Once you bunk a group of young, testosterone-filled boys with absolutely nothing to do, orientation is going to spark up for entertainment. As soon as these boys find out someone has broken the status quo, there will be a beatdown nine times out of ten. Thus, by not allowing anyone to openly state their orientation, the status quo will be kept and fewer on-base instances of discipline loss will be recorded. This doesn't exactly fit the bill for all places, but in the case of Ultra's country, it does. And I'm not knocking down any one person's beliefs granted I've said nothing aside from social patterns found on military installations like those in Ft. Bragg.
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| December 31, 2010, 1:58 pm
Quoting Dr. Spontaneous

+1
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| December 31, 2010, 2:03 pm
Quoting Danny Morgan
Aww frak

I wrote a really over detailed 8 paragraph report on the situation in Sulawesi, but I got signed out of Mocpages and lost the whole thing. I might type it up later if I can be bothered, but basically we're working on getting the whole island of Sulawesi blockaded and scare the Warlords into surrender.

Sometimes when you sign back in and it says, "Group query failed 100" or whatever it says, just go back a few pages to where you were typing the comment, and sometimes its still there. But, unfortunately, most of the time it gets wiped out. A really hate that.

Anyway, the New Year's Offensive has turned out to be successful as of now. The infantry are finishing off the last of the bunkers guarding the large fortress, and reports say the encirclement of the fortress is complete. Some armored units have met up with infantry and are advancing to the outer walls of the fortress as of now. The bunkers that possibly put us behind schedule we will be bombed with a daisy cutter-like bomb that will demolish the bunkers and create LZs for helicopters. That is all for now.

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| December 31, 2010, 3:10 pm
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As Federation forces press east through Chechnya, the embarrassing defeat at Kalinovskaya was counter-acted by an encirclement of arranged artillery and CAS flights. The city was heavily shelled by guided 155mm munitions while mortars struck more indiscriminately block-by-block. The rebel density has suspected to have diminished with a break and morale and lack of communications with nearby guerrilla groups. Presently, infantry with accompanying heavy armour continue to clear the streets. The casualty rates have been decreased by nearly three quarters with suspected killing nests eliminated within seconds by the given mortars and low-flying planes. On note of the latter, two birds were shot out of the sky by Georgian-supplied MANPADS. Both pilots were recovered, but one was found KIA upon the site. Seeing as though these were older birds not necessarily equipped to counteract some of the newer munitions, the casualties have been regarded accounted for and likely to have happened. With all that said and done, we hope to have the entire northern sector of Chechnya secured with the ability to cut off the upper half of Dagestan within our grasp as well.

Down south, Urus-Martan has been secured with minute enemy offensives being recorded. The coalition casualties for these offensives are grossly low and the area remains to be kept from any serious threat levels. With that in mind, Federation forces have been given the go ahead to secure the entire western half of the Irgun R. by means of severe use of force. This means armour will be in great number, and of course accompanying anti-air units, as to deplete the morale levels of the Chechen South. We expect the only place of compact resistance will be the city of Sovetskoye. Of course, we can likely mobilize a few mobile bridges to cross over to the east and cut off all supply lines, but we have yet to see what the secessionists have in store.

In Georgia, a rapid amphibious landing by UACs and old-stock Zubrs was able to secure deploy a division of Federation Marines into the Sokhumi area held by our Abkhazian allies. Coalition forces in the area have been doubled by this quick effort in joint behalf of the Maritime Defense and Marine Corps. We should be able to mobilize artillery in the area within a matter of three days' time which will essentially make or break our occupation seeing as though a defined ground-based heavy-hitting unit is needed to retaliate against enemy forces well at home in their own nation. Air dominance is presently defined as being under Federation-held, but until every possible enemy plane is knocked out of the sky, we cannot say for sure.

In S. Ossetia, a division of mechanized infantry have made it to Ossetian-held Ts'khinvali. We'll be making use of air power to resist any forces coming from Gori or the capital region of Tbilisi. If all goes well, we should be able to control the sovereign state de facto and integrate it as to cease pocket hostilities in the region between Ossetians and Georgians.
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| December 31, 2010, 3:20 pm
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Today, in the Western Confederation:

The Midway base is going to be off tonight, somehow, someway someone managed to smuggle a crate of 'spirits' out there. We expect there to be lots of partying going on out there. Just as well, there's not much they can tear up out there...

Fifty aircraft made the hop from Peterson AFB to Baja, and then to Guatemala International. That airport has been taken over by the government, and a large crowd met the arrival of the aircraft and cheered the pilots as they taxied their planes into the hangars. The formation was short one OV-10 which was lost over the Pacific with mechanical failures, the pilot was picked up by a WC cutter minutes later. A new one is on its way. Training will begin shortly for the Guatemalan Air Force.

The Baja base received its first orders to start construction on 10 examples of a fast patrol boat. While AA installations continue to be erected, slightly delayed by the Cartel War, the base is otherwise fully functional.

Quoting Dr. Spontaneous

At last! Someone who understands! Of course I would never advocate violence, I just don't want to hear about it...
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| December 31, 2010, 3:27 pm
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Quoting Matt P
Sometimes when you sign back in and it says, "Group query failed 100" or whatever it says, just go back a few pages to where you were typing the comment, and sometimes its still there. But, unfortunately, most of the time it gets wiped out. A really hate that.

That's why I always highlight my whole comment and copy it before I press continue. If it gets wiped out, I just paste the whole thing back into the comment box.


anyway, Baltic Union news.

The people of Denmark are looking forward for the new year, and the Baltic Union, in our ongoing deliberations, has already stressed how beneficial it would be for economic, political, and national security reasons for them to join the Union. Talks continue.

Both of our super carrier battle groups underwent a joint operation n the Baltic Earlier th9is week, to great results. We will however, be tweaking the aircraft assignment to each carrier to make them more combat-efficient. News on the aircraft assignments will be delivered at a later date.

We are still progressing with our program to convert all Leopard 2A4s and 2A5s into Leopard 2A8 BALs. This brand new design will give the older tanks the innovations they need to continue and serve on the modern battlefield. As we take delivery of both these and the ordered M6s, we will restructure our armored divisions to fit our changing needs, and give our land forces more efficient fighting forces. New training will accompany this reorganization.
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| December 31, 2010, 3:29 pm
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Quoting -> avalella
Acutally, they did. According to several scientific studies, 1 and 10 Humans have it. I believe 1/40 goats are have the genome, but it is much more common with other species. Heck, 2 penguins at the Central Park Zoo are h0m0. The point of this being, being g_y is completely normal. People have been g_ys for thousands of years, and because your god says YOU can't be, don't try to limit what other nonbelieving g_ys can do.

thank you.
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| December 31, 2010, 3:46 pm
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The first batch of new NAH-1 Attack Helicopters, along with pilots and munitions, are being sent to Chechnya to assist our friends in the Russian Federation defeat the rebels. This mission is more to gain combat experience, as well as to secure stability in the region.

The situation in Denmark has been labeled as high risk for UFS tourists, considering our own experiences with integrating neighboring countries.

It has been decided that an Allegiance Class GMD will be permanently stationed at Iceland.


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| December 31, 2010, 3:58 pm
Quoting Ultramarine .
How many would it take to power a carrier and how long would each battery last?

Well, around 30 million AA batteries... I'm kidding. Around six NSpecs can power a large ship for a year and a half.
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| December 31, 2010, 4:06 pm
The I R.A.I.D. Squadron is being sent to the UK to train alongside British SAS soldiers.
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| December 31, 2010, 5:27 pm
Somebody's been deleting comments....
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Anyways progression on the POacific base goes extremely well. It should be done by next Monday, all that's left is finishing up of the drydocks.
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| December 31, 2010, 5:49 pm
Quoting Thomas N
thank you.

Check out my links, apparently the media's misleading, big surprise there.
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| December 31, 2010, 5:50 pm
Quoting -> avalella
We hope to send them out for advanced training, however they will begin intense combat training domestically at a new MOUT site (being called The Campus by locals), and we have hired some former French commandos to assist in this.
/strikes fear into hearts of evil dooers ;)

I don't know about the other evildoers, but this one is quite sure his former secret police are more than adequate thank you very much. I suspect after 20 years of nabbing uncooperative border hoppers, they'd be more than capable of engaging any given special forces unit with a reasonable chance of success.

Speaking of evildoing: Kyrghizstan is still totally thrilled at being part of the confederation. Also, absolutely nobody got shot for terrorism.
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| December 31, 2010, 6:18 pm
Happy 2037 everybody!

The A1 is starting to go into factory production. To start off with the price to produce these will be very high and production will be slow, but it'll work out cheeper in the long run...
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| December 31, 2010, 7:40 pm
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As to spark off the new year, Russia has recently unveiled its new carrier class simply classified as the Resolve. The Resolve-class is a medium-displacement vessel 33 meters short of the Nimitz-class. Although she doesn't pack as much heat, she's more than capable of flexing enough muscle to make her enemies duck there heads here and there. At any rate, a planned two are presently on the boards while another one is looking for funding. This present number will allow us to protect our rather opposing coasts with an extended range of capable force. If the third finds money, it will be utilized as an FOC for international relations. Alas, the construction of the first vessel was mentioned some time ago when the first Allegiance-class vessel underwent her first waves, thus the expected sea trial date and completion of the vessel is expected one and half to two weeks from now.
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| December 31, 2010, 9:26 pm
In celebration of the newyear, the UKS is holding massive parties in it's territory
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| January 1, 2011, 1:42 am
Quoting Areetsa C
I don't know about the other evildoers, but this one is quite sure his former secret police are more than adequate thank you very much. I suspect after 20 years of nabbing uncooperative border hoppers, they'd be more than capable of engaging any given special forces unit with a reasonable chance of success.

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| January 1, 2011, 10:20 am
In the CDC, the party of Engineers sent to Isreal has returned with a thorough review of the Achzarit Mk 2. While in general it is deemed fit for service within the CDC, our Marine branch is requesting a modified variant with more amphibious capabilities and an updated weapon system. Development has begun of a new remote weapon system to meet this requirement. Waterproofing techniques are also being implemented. Development of a new weapons system for the M89 IFV is going along as expected, and we hope to have a prototype by the middle of the week.
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| January 1, 2011, 12:08 pm
Who got kicked?

The first Valkyrie (excluding the prototype) will role off the production line ETC tomorrow noon.

The location of the factory is not to be revealed at present.
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| January 1, 2011, 4:19 pm
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In light of recent events, the Federation hopes to produce another two divisions of naval infantry to bolster our interventionist policy and to simply be able to have a well-balanced, go-anywhere force at hand. These extra 40,000 men may be hard to come by, but seeing as though we are involved in two wars with terrorism at hand, morale levels should be high enough to at least raise one division with ease.

Aside from that, the testing and design for the e-textiles goes well. With recent advancements in more flexible carbons and materials of the same nature, it has been found quite easy to progress in this field of microtechnology. The main issue that has presently arisen is the level of efficiency the textiles can produce with friction alone. Another equally challenging issue is kinetic resistance; this should hopefully be cured with a defined formula for weaving a new generation of Kevlar with the electronic fibers. This will allow flexibility, protection, and electronic production to co-exist. There are also ideas of shrinking solar cells and placing them within the soldiers' bags. All-in-all, battery dependency should be reduced by several figures if all of this goes to plan.

On note of the ATGM advancement, several snags have recently been introduced. The largest of said snags being the difficulty in achieving the desired attack angle without forcing the munition into an uncontrollable tumble. Several designs have erupted from this issue that include multi-stage propulsion, new gyroscopics, and even a Kamikaze UAV. The latter hasn't met much light seeing as though production costs would be far too much. We'll still work on this program to hopefully find a solution soon.

Also, the Federation has recently picked up the research for electromagnetic armor. This idea can be found in BAE's history, and we'd like to follow suite and hopefully field it on larger vehicles and vessels for more integrated defense measures. The EMGA (as dubbed presently) will come in self-contained packages like ERA or even larger panels to be atop blow-out panels or naval vessels. The Federation may also go ahead and tie a new radar program with this effort seeing as though we see both systems to compliment one another in terms of research and time. Regardless, these efforts should sport some rather pretty fruit if the price-tag doesn't bankrupt our defense corporations first.
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| January 1, 2011, 4:24 pm
Quoting -> avalella
?

I, Awe, Nick: resident evil-doers.
Takes a lot to strike fear into OUR hearts.

Probably because we might, possibly, not have any.
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| January 1, 2011, 6:42 pm
Quoting Areetsa C
I, Awe, Nick: resident evil-doers.
Takes a lot to strike fear into OUR hearts.

Probably because we might, possibly, not have any.

I was refering to the more tame non-player controlled evil-doers.
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| January 1, 2011, 8:24 pm
Quoting -> avalella
I was refering to the more tame non-player controlled evil-doers.

Ah, yes. The ones who don't do anything until it's convenient for someone's agenda.
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| January 1, 2011, 9:39 pm
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Today, in the Western Confederation:

Project Norris has been thrust upon the WCHC as the army is seeking a next-generation super soldier as a force-magnifier, embracing the "One-man division; one-squad army" concept of advanced warfighting. Named after the venerable former Texas Ranger, this force will be equipped with the latest in standard and experimental technologies. Including what the WC has extrapolated to reproduce the LandWarrior program from the files still in NORAD and other research facilities. They will be backed up by heavy weapons teams with bionic enhanced body armor along with the new M1A5s outfitted with TUSK, these guys would be your worst nightmare incarnated. At least they will once we get them online a year or so from now...

The flotilla remains under sail for the Aleutians' base. There the Houston will receive shipment of 40 new F-29s along with resupply for their armaments.

Recruiting continues for the PUSH-UPs, and has begun for the 'Norris' project (though these will mainly arise from existing special forces). Naval students alike with Air Force cadets are heading for the Air Force Academy for the spring semester.

Trouble is once again boiling in the middle east. Israel seems to be squarely in the crosshairs. The Western Confederation has approached Israel* to revive former arms deals in order to provide protection for the innocents there.

*I don't want your opinions on this, I'm not annexing Israel, and I don't want anyone rewriting my "Stories." Understood? Not trying to be harsh, but I'm not ready to repeat last time. And, no Matt, I'm not doing this for attention. It is for a far more serious reason.
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| January 1, 2011, 11:12 pm
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Project Vaktare has commenced with the blessing of the prime minister (woo hoo time for some good ol' fashioned shadow programs).

Production of wind farms and nuclear reactors has begun in Norway and Sweden. The funding for this is coming from cut defense funds.

Production of the "Wolf" is now complete, with nearly 100 units ordered canceled. We have decided against producing any M113A5s due to the fact that by 2037, no matter how updated the design is, it is an antique. Production of the C220 has been favored, and we are anticipating 700 units.

All ex Finnish F-18s are being mothballed, with half of them being destroyed/ scrapped. None will be sold.

A great calamity has occurred in Oslo today. A Scandinavian Airlines Airbus A340-300 crashed immediately following takeoff. SAS flight 241 with scheduled service from Oslo to Tokyo crashed shortly after takeoff into a heavily populated suburb. At least all 264 souls aboard the Airbus have perished, and 62 people are reported missing on the ground. Investigators are on scene.
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| January 1, 2011, 11:46 pm
It is already 2037 Matt....
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| January 1, 2011, 11:57 pm
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Quoting Danny Morgan
It is already 2037 Matt....


I know that...
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| January 2, 2011, 12:10 am
Having noticed the new Western Confederation "Norris" project, Alenian procurement agents looked into possible methods of equalling it. Thus, we have decided to revive the failed "Medved" armour, hoping to take advantage of advances in power supplies. Of course, we have no intention of using it as standard issue equipment; rather, we're thinking of a squad-per-Company arrangement.
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| January 2, 2011, 12:12 am
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Quoting Areetsa C
Having noticed the new Western Confederation "Norris" project, Alenian procurement agents looked into possible methods of equalling it. Thus, we have decided to revive the failed "Medved" armour, hoping to take advantage of advances in power supplies. Of course, we have no intention of using it as standard issue equipment; rather, we're thinking of a squad-per-Company arrangement.

I started another trend! Yeah, and that goes for us too. It will be a specialized unit.
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| January 2, 2011, 12:31 am
Quoting Ultramarine .
I started another trend! Yeah, and that goes for us too. It will be a specialized unit.

Well, no, I just wasn't totally sure where such things as the Medved fit in.


Speaking of which, it's the future.. so, why haven't we heard anything yet about a couple of "terrorists" stealing some construction exoskeletons, plating them with scrap iron and robbing a bank?
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| January 2, 2011, 12:39 am
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Quoting Areetsa C
Speaking of which, it's the future.. so, why haven't we heard anything yet about a couple of "terrorists" stealing some construction exoskeletons, plating them with scrap iron and robbing a bank?

Because I don't want it to happen in my country...
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| January 2, 2011, 12:41 am
Mmkay, then.

Five or six days ago (it was midnight, mmkay?) a small band of small-time crooks broke into the secured warehouse of the Eastern District's largest construction company. While in there they stole several things: money, tools, an eight wheeled heavy truck. Most notable among those things were three "Schwalbe" construction exoskeletons of recent German make.

It seems one of their number had watched a surplus of science fiction movies and decided to make himself a suit of powered armour.

While the modifications were crude, they were effective: when they robbed the Almaty Province Central Bank, the guard's submachineguns were completely incapable of penetrating their makeshift body armour.

Of course, before long, the OVB tracked them down. They got a choice, however, unlike most bank robbers: they had the normal "shot at dawn" option, backed up by considerable boasting and their fingerprints all over the demand note, and they had the less common "join us and get paid to do what you're good at" option.

Needless to say, they took the latter.

Now, they'll need considerable training, but we don't doubt that a band of heavily armoured bank robbers could be a very useful asset to have in a foreign country. It's a lot easier to make an assassination look like a botched bank robbery when you've got a team of real bank robbers with you.

Speaking of which, we had no involvement in the tragic and untimely demise of the old Kyrghizstanian Finance Minister.
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| January 2, 2011, 12:57 am
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Today, in the Western Confederation:

The 20 F-18s were received today from the UFS. They will be fitted with tow hooks (for naval deck use) and advanced avionics to upgrade it to F-18C standards. While the F-29 will become our chief naval fighter in a few months, the F-18C will at that time be turned over to the Marine Corps.

Recruitment has nearly been nonexistent for a few months, that is about to change. With several new states incorporated, the potential of manpower is largely untapped. Massive ad campaigns are being started, emphasizing the unique impact each and every man can make. Numbers are expected to jump, and ammunition/arms production along with it.

An arms deal has been hammered out with Israel, 40 outdated M48s and accompanying TUSK gear, for certain items of technology. Shipping the tanks will take some time, but it is imperative that the tanks get there post haste, or the IDF might not be able to hold the line much longer. Though outdated by a couple decades, they are far more advanced than the T72 especially once up-armed.
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| January 2, 2011, 3:09 pm
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Quoting Ultramarine .
The 20 F-18s were received today from the UFS. They will be fitted with tow hooks (for naval deck use) and advanced avionics to upgrade it to F-18C standards. While the F-29 will become our chief naval fighter in a few months, the F-18C will at that time be turned over to the Marine Corps.

Wait, what?
Quoting Matt Hacker
All ex Finnish F-18s are being mothballed, with half of them being destroyed/ scrapped. None will be sold.


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| January 2, 2011, 3:59 pm
Negotiations about a possible arms deal has been struck up with our long time allies, Saudi Arabia. Generals from their military are currently traveling to the UK.
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| January 2, 2011, 4:09 pm
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Quoting Thomas N
Wait, what?

Cool story, bro, check the Trading Boards. I paid good money for those planes, so I better get them.

*Looks dangerously at Matt*
>.>
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I don't cotton to people who take my money and back out...
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| January 2, 2011, 4:50 pm
The New Year's Offensive has been very successful. The whole fortress has been captured finally, and many terrorists were taken prisoner. Intelligence has also been recovered from the fortress that will help us know where other bases and strongpoints are. Although some files were burned in an attempt to destroy some of the intelligence, but many files were still found. The end of this war seems near, with new intelligence and a major strongpoint has been captured.
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| January 2, 2011, 6:35 pm
12 Nspec batteries have been shipped to the Ultramarine-ers for 2.5 Mil. Giftwrap and bow included.
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| January 2, 2011, 6:41 pm
Today our divisions in Sulawesi move into it's two main cities, Makassar in the south, and Manado in the North. In Makassar we encountered minimal resistance, the Civilians, who'd be living in terror and desperation for the past 7 years were seen crying with relief at the sight of our tanks and vehicles rolling down the war torn streets. Further along, a lone insurgent threw a Molotov at the convoy. No one was hurt, but a T32 was damaged beyond repair. The man was caught and taken back to Java.

Manado was a different story altogether. The Warlords seemed to have some kind of HQ hide out up there. Very few civilians were found, but many dead bodies on the sides of the potholed roads. Our convoy there was ambushed by what seemed to be all that was left of the Warlords' armies who had not yet surrendered or fled. 12 of our soldiers were killed, and 48 injured. It could have been a lot worse if it weren't for the Air support. Variants of the old Black Hawk circled around the fire fight scene, dropping off reinforcements and sniping enemy troops.

After an hour of this, the remaining Tangos retreated. Among the dead was found one of the Warlords, who it appeared had fought with his men. There was a rather large cavity in the back of his head where a 30mm sniper round had exited.
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| January 2, 2011, 7:09 pm
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Quoting Ultramarine .
Cool story, bro, check the Trading Boards. I paid good money for those planes, so I better get them.

*Looks dangerously at Matt*
>.>
<.<
I don't cotton to people who take my money and back out...


Sorry for the confusion, I should have said "with the exception of the already completed transaction with the WC". Also, Finnish F18s are already up to C standard, so no need to do so yourself.

In the wreckage of SAS 241, investigators have gotten lucky and have discovered the flight data recorder, while the cockpit voice recorder is still missing in the wreckage, which has been declared a biohazard zone due to the extensive human carnage at the scene.
Vivid mourning families are being held beyond a 4 kilometer exclusion zone. A Hangar at the Oslo airport has been turned into a makeshift morgue, while the Norwegian Statens Havarikommisjon for Transport, (SHT) Accident Investigation Board Norway, is on the scene. Likely a new unified board will take over, but this is still being formed. However, the boards of both Sweden and Norway have sent representatives to work on the team. So far virtually no components of the aeroplane appear to be completely intact, save the number 3 engine and the haunting images of the vertical stabilizer sticking out of the remains of a burned down house. Scandinavian Airlines says that due to early witness reports, it is unlikely that terrorism is to blame.
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| January 2, 2011, 8:20 pm
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Quoting Matt Hacker

Sorry for the confusion, I should have said "with the exception of the already completed transaction with the WC". Also, Finnish F18s are already up to C standard, so no need to do so yourself.


Oh, good. That will save me a few hundred man-hours of labor, not to mention a few hundred thousand $. I suppose coat-hangars would suffice as towhooks...

Quoting Danny Morgan
There was a rather large cavity in the back of his head where a 30mm sniper round had exited.

With a 30mm round, he would not have any head left to find a cavity in. A .50cal is only 12.7mm. 30mm rifles were used by the Russians in WWII as an anti-tank gun, just think about that.

Quoting Brikkr ™
12 Nspec batteries have been shipped to the Ultramarine-ers for 2.5 Mil. Giftwrap and bow included.

That's Western Confederation to you, pal! Of course, referring to me as Imperious Leader works too (or Fearless Leader, for any Rocky fans out there). Oh, can I get a blue bow?
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| January 3, 2011, 11:59 am
Quoting Ultramarine .
That's Western Confederation to you, pal! Of course, referring to me as Imperious Leader works too (or Fearless Leader, for any Rocky fans out there). Oh, can I get a blue bow?

Yes Fearless Leader of the WC. (I forgot the name, whoops.)
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| January 3, 2011, 1:44 pm
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Today, in the Western Confederation:

The WC took delivery of the M1 power cells today, the Great Falls has been recalled from shakedowns in the Gulf for refit once again. Installation shouldn't take long, and it will be the first electric surface ship to serve in the US military (at least I think so). The Lady Lex's powerplant is completed, and it is being transported to Corpus Christi now. Measurements are being taken to see how many aircraft she can handle. Manufacture of the second Brigand-class battleship is about 10% completed (pics coming soon, I promise).

The Pacific expeditionary fleet is another day closer to its destination in the Aleutians. Midway has finished putting up the expansive hangars. A mixed squadron of 6 B-1Bs and 6 F-16Fs took off from Baja Base this morning upon word that Midway Garrison was operational. Fuel containers have been set up, and the support personnel will be leaving Baja tonight with more equipment.
Midway Garrison will house 250 personnel (100 marines, 150 pilots and servicemen), 20 aircraft (8 more marine F-18Cs are expected to join the garrison within the month) and the theater's SAC commander once all is said and done. A small fleet will always remain on hand as well.

The WCS Brigand has returned from station in the Atlantic to escort the gathering merchant fleet for the delivery to Israel. In addition to the 40 M48-Hs and ammunition the fleet will be carrying 8,000 tons of several different grains, 1,000 tons of prepared foods (leftover MREs mostly), and 500 tons of medical supplies. Not to mention large quantities of lubricant, fuel oil, and spare parts/scrap metal. It will be a humanitarian shipment as well as military, firing on them will be considered an act of war.

Quoting Brikkr ™
Yes Fearless Leader of the WC. (I forgot the name, whoops.)

That's more like it. lol
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| January 3, 2011, 1:55 pm
Quoting Evan Melick
Dude, that is one big sniper rifle. Like bigger then some primary weapons on armored vehicles...

Anti-materiel, actually. For shooting holes in jet engines and other semi-hard targets.
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| January 3, 2011, 9:37 pm
In the Pacific, the PCU Strike Force was spotted by a Hawaiian F-16, which launched two missiles and then retreated back to base. One of the missiles was shot down, with the other slamming into the flight deck of the John Hood. Due to the training exercises we just went through the firefighting team was prepared and the fire was extinguished quickly. One MAF-1/N was damaged slightly by the missile, but it was repaired and will be sent out tomorrow.

Due to this attack, the second Naval Strike Force consisting of three Los Angeles subs, two Ticonderogas, and an LHD arrived off of Hilo and began striking deep into the Island with Tomahawk missiles and bombs dropped from MAF-1/Ns and MAF-2 Doves. 60 troops were dropped off inside of Hilo under heavy AAA via MV-22 to disable a variety of things.

In Portland, a modification of the HAT-1 that will take off at least 40 pounds of weight, and lessen the armor by 2 cm has been approved, and will go into production as the HAT/L-1 but will still be called the HAT-1 for simplicity. All existing HAT-1s will receive the upgrade the next time they come into base for rearming and refueling, and there isn't a battle that needs them.

In Newfoundland, the USS Ronald Reagan has arrived (I swear I made a post about it leaving!) and is occupying the only dock built so far.

In Alberta, Edmonton has been taken through heavy fighting. The resistance has been smashed. The rest of Alberta is in disarray with the loss of their stand-in government. The PCU will pick up these pieces and solve the puzzle one way or another.

In Portland again, a new helicopter has been made. http://www.flickr.com/photos/40712407@N06/5322322455/
Do not hesitate, show no mercy! Do what must be done! Rate this MOC!
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| January 4, 2011, 1:23 am
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Today, in the Western Confederation:

The Navy has initiated its own version of the PUSH-UP program, turning some 200 personnel (150 of these recently recruited), 10 C-2 Greyhounds, and 10 C-1A Traders. This is necessarily smaller in scope, but it will enable the navy to operate apart from AF logistical support for a longer time, and may provide a significant tactical advantage.

General Matton Warren (SAC) was given official command of the Midway Garrison in a small but important ceremony this afternoon. This event marked the completion of the buildup on Midway (the radar array delivered earlier is still being installed). Future projects for the Pacific are on hold until the drydocks on the Baja are completed (two or three weeks).

Gold mining is being expanded (about $252 Million/6 months so far) into Montana. It is estimated within the decade we could be mining as much as $2 Billion annually. Copper and other metal mining is resuming in most places. Plans are being drawn up for conservative lumber consumption, rotation, and replanting (not because we're hippies, but we want lumber in the future so we replant and move on...). Uranium is still being mined.

The Israeli tanks have been transported by rail to the loading docks, the fleet will set sail in two days.

This group is kind of quiet, I think I should start another controversy...
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| January 4, 2011, 3:57 pm
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The long-forgotten Beyond Visual Range Air to Air Missile has finally been developed. I will not go into specifics unless pressed, but the missile carries a fragmenting warhead over a distance of 200 kilometers maximum, with average operation ranges expected to be around 120 km. Due to the range and complexity of the missile, it costs a walloping 3 million per missile, meaning that only our premier fighter squadrons will be equipped.

Also in air launched missile news... The Low Observable Air to Surface missile has begun to enter squadron service, with the first examples being fitted to JAS-39 Gripens stationed at the reopened Naval Air Station Keflavik.
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| January 4, 2011, 4:45 pm
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The prototypical testing of the new ATGM has undergone its second phase today. Four mid-development munitions engaged mock targets today (former serving T-72s rigged with pseudo-APS). The rounds were able to defeat the targets with a 63% success ratio in definition to accuracy and precision combined leaving the second phase complete. The third and hopefully last stage of development shall press on and we hope to have the munition ready for production within the time of two weeks.

In direct relation to the above missile, a Joint-Action Strike Munition (JASM) will replace former anti-armour/anti-vehicular munitions with a single package that utilizes infrared imaging, airframe radar, and an in-flight target database. With this tri-force of technologies readily available and already in place (minus the latter), the JASM will be a cheap way to reduce the number of serving missiles and thus reduce logistical hassle and costs. Not only this, but contemporary armour defense systems on most existing tanks should be easily defeated without a follow-up round needed to be released from the airframe. Regardless, engineering the expensive computer-reliant warhead will be quite a task seeing as though there is a size and weight restriction at hand; our hopes are high.

The Federation would also like to acquire a few samples of the UFS LOAS missile to see how it stacks up and if we should invest in the technology as well.
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| January 4, 2011, 5:10 pm
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Quoting Dr. Spontaneous

The Federation would also like to acquire a few samples of the UFS LOAS missile to see how it stacks up and if we should invest in the technology as well.


We are happy to oblige with this, how many units do you require?
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| January 4, 2011, 5:25 pm
Development of the F-35 D is now complete, and the first squadrons have entered production. Due to their immense cost there will only be enough produced to replace all of the RAF's Tornado Fighter Interceptors.

The first prototypes of our extreme long range Air to Air missiles have been completed. Many of its features are classified, although we can say that their estimated range is around 250 KM and uses an HE fragmentation warhead. The missile, codenamed Longbow is expected to be very expensive. Due to this high cost we will also begin development of newer medium ranged missiles.

Construction of our ships continues to go well. Our six new cruisers will be done by next week and our new carrier will be done in two weeks. The carrier will carry up to 90 F-35 Cs and many assorted support aircraft and helicopters.

Saudi Arabia has asked for 100 Challenger 3 (Without Chobham Armor of Course), 3 of our older frigates, and 20 Tornadoes. Parliament is currently voting whether or not to approve the deal.
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| January 4, 2011, 5:48 pm
Quoting Ultramarine .
This group is kind of quiet, I think I should start another controversy...

Well, you've caused civilian hardsuits to show up. As soon as certain people notice, there'll be a controversy.
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| January 4, 2011, 6:14 pm
In the CDC, the military arms and equipment development industry has just been privatized, and several new manufacturers have sprung up to meet our military's demand. Most notably, Caribbean Tech., a joint venture between Gulf Oil and Havana Motors, is being granted a $100,000,000 startup boost and 10 acres of government-owned land in Haiti to help set up shop. Some of our current projects are being contracted to them, including the M1182 Remote Weapons System and the M89 Infantry Fighting Vehicle. We look forward to doing business with them, and hope that the increased competition on the now open market will help lower equipment costs and improve quality. Congress has also approved the production of another 4 domestically produced Delfin Class Attack Submarines.
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| January 4, 2011, 6:18 pm
The attacks on Hilo's power facilities last night went without problems, with 80% of facilities put out of commission by the Marines.

The LHDs are beginning to form up on Hilo, and ready their landing ships for the land invasion. A hard battle is expected, with heavy casualties.

In Southern Hawaii, three MAF-2 Doves launched from John Hood and flew inland to strike down any airbases still in the area. The Hawaiian Air Force waited until they were out of the safety zone provided by the carrier before they attacked with their F-16s.

One was downed due to the surprise of the attack, but the quick return fire by the remaining Doves caused the F-16s to retreat. The Doves followed them from the cloud cover and as they landed, the Doves struck back.

The two Doves dropped their payload on three out of 7 hangars at the airfield, destroying a presumed seven F-16s still on the ground. They came around for another pass with their Vulcans but were turned away by the heavy AAA presence in the area. The PCU is currently planning a new offensive on the area.

In Alberta, roughly 70% of the lands have been wrestled from the Resistance, and is now being cleansed of them. Prisoners are being sent to Mexico to work on airbases and homes for the wealthy.


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| January 4, 2011, 7:31 pm
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Quoting Areetsa C
Well, you've caused civilian hardsuits to show up. As soon as certain people notice, there'll be a controversy.

Civilian whats?
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| January 4, 2011, 7:38 pm
Quoting Ultramarine .
Civilian whats?

Well, a hardsuit is generally considered to be a powered exoskeleton fitted with armour and weapons. Like this: http://www.sarna.net/wiki/images/3/36/Elementar_cross.jpg

A civilian verson would look something like this: http://www.sarna.net/wiki/images/d/d5/HeavyHauler-P5000_Powerlifter.jpg
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| January 4, 2011, 7:52 pm
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Quoting Areetsa C
Well, a hardsuit is generally considered to be a powered exoskeleton fitted with armour and weapons. Like this: http://www.sarna.net/wiki/images/3/36/Elementar_cross.jpg

A civilian verson would look something like this: http://www.sarna.net/wiki/images/d/d5/HeavyHauler-P5000_Powerlifter.jpg

I did say something about bionically enhanced body armor, but I had something like this in mind: http://www.environmentalgraffiti.com/sites/default/files/images/http-inlinethumb29.webshots.com-6492-2534766050102347975S600x600Q85.preview.jpg
You know, like carrying AA missiles on your back, chucking grenades up to 3/4 mi. Miscellaneous stuff like that.
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| January 4, 2011, 8:08 pm
Quoting Ultramarine .
I did say something about bionically enhanced body armor, but I had something like this in mind: http://www.environmentalgraffiti.com/sites/default/files/images/http-inlinethumb29.webshots.com-6492-2534766050102347975S600x600Q85.preview.jpg
You know, like carrying AA missiles on your back, chucking grenades up to 3/4 mi. Miscellaneous stuff like that.

Something like that, yes. Cover it with scrap metal and you'd have what the robbers used.

But no, in my personal opinion, a military version would need to be covered with at least enough armour to protect from small arms fire. Since Avalella seems to have fixed the power supply problem, there's nothing to keep it from being practical.

Unless someone decides compact fuel cells capable of powering an aircraft carrier for most of a year without recharging aren't realistic.
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| January 4, 2011, 8:16 pm
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Quoting Areetsa C
Something like that, yes. Cover it with scrap metal and you'd have what the robbers used.

But no, in my personal opinion, a military version would need to be covered with at least enough armour to protect from small arms fire. Since Avalella seems to have fixed the power supply problem, there's nothing to keep it from being practical.

Unless someone decides compact fuel cells capable of powering an aircraft carrier for most of a year without recharging aren't realistic.

I have my own ideas for that armor, but it's classified.

Um, that last one was the military application of the M1 project. Brazil assured us that it would power a large vessel for a year and a half...
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| January 4, 2011, 8:39 pm
Quoting Ultramarine .
I have my own ideas for that armor, but it's classified.

Um, that last one was the military application of the M1 project. Brazil assured us that it would power a large vessel for a year and a half...

Exactly. So, unless someone claims it's unrealistic, that means compact power cells can have a much higher energy density now. Therefore, the biggest problem behind powered armour (the inability to function for long without a hookup to a generator) is solved.
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| January 4, 2011, 8:44 pm
Quoting Ultra and Areetea

Well if you consider a minivan compact...
Well the Naval batteries have to be rather large to be able to power such a power-hungry thing like a warship.
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| January 4, 2011, 9:08 pm
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The group administration has a technologically conservative consensus that pretty much deems armored exoskeletons/hardsuits/exosuits/what have you unrealistic and implausible for battlefield use. Not only would they need vast energy resources (thus much capital investment), but they just take the fun out of near-contemporary combat. At best, I can see them implemented for logistical use with an electric umbilical cord, but beyond that, this concept is set as our "mecha no-no". Say what you will, but our case is adamant.
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| January 4, 2011, 9:12 pm
Quoting Evan Melick
Dude, that is one big sniper rifle. Like bigger then some primary weapons on armored vehicles...

Oh yeah, Well spotted. I meant 30 Cal.
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| January 4, 2011, 9:19 pm
Quoting Dr. Spontaneous
The group administration has a technologically conservative consensus that pretty much deems armored exoskeletons/hardsuits/exosuits/what have you unrealistic and implausible for battlefield use. Not only would they need vast energy resources (thus much capital investment), but they just take the fun out of near-contemporary combat. At best, I can see them implemented for logistical use with an electric umbilical cord, but beyond that, this concept is set as our "mecha no-no". Say what you will, but our case is adamant.

Wait, does that make me using Boston Dynamic's 'Little Dog' my marine's cargo transport of choice a no-no?
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| January 4, 2011, 9:20 pm
Quoting Brikkr ™
Well if you consider a minivan compact...
Well the Naval batteries have to be rather large to be able to power such a power-hungry thing like a warship.

My point is that current (2010) power cells don't have the ability to power a warship with a cell the size of, oh, a minivan.

So, if you scale said superbatteries down a few orders of magnitude, they should be at least sufficient to provide a few days of power for an armoured exoskeleton.

Quoting Evan Melick
Ehh. Do we really have to venture into power suits? We're trying to keep some of this borderline sci-fi stuff out this round, like the power armor or the always lovable rail gun satellites.

It's the opinion of the admins that by 2036 the technology available will probably not be sophisticated enough to mass produce them in any quality. As much as I hate to say it, life isn't a Dale Brown novel. So, experiment with them all you wish, these kinds of in depth debates and stuff is what we love and strive for, but no line production or military use if you please.

Well, mass production, maybe not. No reason it wouldn't work for special operations, though.

Quoting Dr. Spontaneous
The group administration has a technologically conservative consensus that pretty much deems armored exoskeletons/hardsuits/exosuits/what have you unrealistic and implausible for battlefield use. Not only would they need vast energy resources (thus much capital investment), but they just take the fun out of near-contemporary combat. At best, I can see them implemented for logistical use with an electric umbilical cord, but beyond that, this concept is set as our "mecha no-no". Say what you will, but our case is adamant.

They wouldn't actually be that suited for line combat; but in an urban house clearing tpye operation, I think they'd work pretty well. You know, any setting where people can't bring AT weapons to bear. In general, anything that'd muck up one of those bulletproof armoured cars would perforate a suit of near-future powered armour.
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| January 4, 2011, 9:22 pm
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Quoting Jake H.
Wait, does that make me using Boston Dynamic's 'Little Dog' my marine's cargo transport of choice a no-no?

Don't put weapons on it nor say it has an impressive range and we're okay. Like I said, logistically suits/robotics can be used, but to say it's fit for a combat mission means a big "no" stamp from the administration.
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| January 4, 2011, 9:25 pm
And what about something like this?
http://www.flickr.com/photos/ironweasel/5324678591/in/contacts/
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| January 4, 2011, 9:27 pm
Quoting Dr. Spontaneous
Don't put weapons on it nor say it has an impressive range and we're okay. Like I said, logistically suits/robotics can be used, but to say it's fit for a combat mission means a big "no" stamp from the administration.

Well here's a linky.
http://www.bostondynamics.com/robot_bigdog.html

EDIT
Can I attach bombs to them?
http://www.youtube.com/BostonDynamics#p/a/f/0/YO43fFyYgXI
It has a 13 mile range, and moves at 4 mph with over 300 lbs of gear.
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| January 4, 2011, 9:29 pm
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Quoting Areetsa C


Regardless of CQB applications, hardsuits have been declared "mecha" and therefor are not allowed except in logistics moving. And considering that most Combat Modding does not generally take ammunition loading into effect, it would be a waste to develop in any capacity.
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| January 4, 2011, 9:29 pm
What about cybernetically enhanced supersoldiers?
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| January 4, 2011, 9:38 pm
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Quoting Areetsa C
What about cybernetically enhanced supersoldiers?

Stick to standardized humans or I might strangle you.

And Mr. Holt, unless you want to waste money on producing an expensive robot that'll just tick a few times and blow-up, I'd stay away from the Jihad Dogs.
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| January 4, 2011, 9:43 pm
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Quoting Matt Hacker

Regardless of CQB applications, hardsuits have been declared "mecha" and therefor are not allowed except in logistics moving. And considering that most Combat Modding does not generally take ammunition loading into effect, it would be a waste to develop in any capacity.

Ah, very well then, I shall take that out of my project...

Oh, it seems that every time you write a comment I get an email saying you 'Replied to my comment' when you didn't. Is it a glitch or do you edit that out?
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| January 4, 2011, 9:44 pm
Quoting Areetsa C
What about cybernetically enhanced supersoldiers?

There's a very good anime about that...except it's all Bourne style action and it's a drama. It's also an intelligence agency who controls the super soldiers.
Quoting Dr. Spontaneous


And Mr. Holt, unless you want to waste money on producing an expensive robot that'll just tick a few times and blow-up, I'd stay away from the Jihad Dogs.

I though it would be worth it for the psychological effect. Ya know if I mebbe wiped out a village or two using that method...
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| January 4, 2011, 9:44 pm
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Quoting Jake H.
I though it would be worth it for the psychological effect. Ya know if I mebbe wiped out a village or two using that method...

It's your capital, not mine.
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| January 4, 2011, 9:47 pm
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Quoting Ultramarine .
Ah, very well then, I shall take that out of my project...

Oh, it seems that every time you write a comment I get an email saying you 'Replied to my comment' when you didn't. Is it a glitch or do you edit that out?


Actually, I was going to reply to one of your comments today, but I decided against it and instead reformatted the comment (before I posted) to one in general. I didn't suspect that it would still send you a notification without actually quoting what you said. I guess the second you hit the "reply" button instead of "add a new comment" button it sends out an email. I am sorry if this has been an inconvenience.
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| January 4, 2011, 9:48 pm
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Quoting Matt Hacker

Actually, I was going to reply to one of your comments today, but I decided against it and instead reformatted the comment (before I posted) to one in general. I didn't suspect that it would still send you a notification without actually quoting what you said. I guess the second you hit the "reply" button instead of "add a new comment" button it sends out an email. I am sorry if this has been an inconvenience.

Apparently so. Oh, *sigh* yes, such an inconvenience... Though I am flattered.
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| January 4, 2011, 9:53 pm
Quoting Dr. Spontaneous
Stick to standardized humans or I might strangle you.

Hm. Well, there goes any prospects of 21st Century Manei Domini.
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| January 4, 2011, 9:58 pm
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Is it safe to say that by 2036 3D printers will be more widespread than now?
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| January 4, 2011, 10:14 pm
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So basically, we're 2011 tech in 2037?
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| January 4, 2011, 11:17 pm
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Quoting Awesome-o-saurus The Not-So-Great
So basically, we're 2011 tech in 2037?

Seems to be. I guess, if we live that long, we'll find out how right/wrong we are...

So, to the admins, stuff like this: http://www.flickr.com/photos/jake_h/5325943920/in/contacts/
which is in development today suddenly disappears magically?
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| January 4, 2011, 11:24 pm
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Quoting Evan Melick
It's been said that that is perfectly fine. Strap a bomb to it, build a slightly bigger one, and put three hundred pounds of stuff on the back, heck even putting small arms on it, in my opinion, really is not that off the charts. Troops do it today with UGV's with M16's and a camera strapped to the top. I'm fine with something like that, and put whatever 2037 twists you want into it, but no power suits, mechas, death rays, or car sized walkers with a machine gun turret on the back.

I have the Gnat armed UGV in service with my armed forces now. It can be used to draw fire or to scout, or do whatever, but I don't expect it to be a war winner by using it en masse.

Take that "Dog" and double the size. Look, you've got what is probably considered a 'mech'. And, it's car-sized. Why, when the tech exists, can't we use it? Program in whatever imperfections you want (sort of like early airplanes) but if civilians can build paint-ball slinging walkers 10' tall, I just don't see why we can't have them.

I completely understand beam weapons, but anti-missile/anti-aircraft lasers exist (if you believe India's hyped claims)

I'm not arguing, I'm just asking for enlightenment.
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| January 4, 2011, 11:41 pm
New Year, new updates.
-Factories continue to churn out Aircraft and vehicles, but the Su-35, F16, CF-5, and Mi-35M have been added to the lineup from captured Venezuelan vehicles.
-A prototype classified as Object-47 was found in a Venezuelan warehouse. It was then found out that it was of Russian origin and was probably stolen.
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| January 4, 2011, 11:58 pm
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Quoting Evan Melick
FOr all intents and purposes, our aim with the "ban" per se is to eliminate the out of control spiral of futuristic weaponry that appeared right after another in 21st Century Group. Yes, obviously in 26 years, technology will probably include all this that the admins would like to limit. We do this in the interest of playability. Yes, we'd like this group to have some sense of people getting into playing their nations, learning them, and getting into the gruddy details at times if need be. But when it comes to combat, which of course is a huge part of the group, our method is clunky and inefficient, but necessary. Limiting the amount of wunderwaffen introduced into the group, even just in combat roles, we believe will make the group continue to run smooth. Really, by all means, like I said, build a car sized logistics mech, but really, is it going to be that more effective then a squad-level UGV for hailing bags, or just a good old truck?

You don't have to send letters of condolence to a computer. One-way missions are often very effective, but morally reprehensible for human soldiers. Machines don't need rations, medical supplies, or other vehicles to carry them to their destination...

Ok, I guess it's a little cheaper. Back to Wikipedia to see how many UAVs I've got...
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| January 5, 2011, 12:00 am
Quoting Ultramarine .
Take that "Dog" and double the size. Look, you've got what is probably considered a 'mech'. And, it's car-sized. Why, when the tech exists, can't we use it? Program in whatever imperfections you want (sort of like early airplanes) but if civilians can build paint-ball slinging walkers 10' tall, I just don't see why we can't have them.

I completely understand beam weapons, but anti-missile/anti-aircraft lasers exist (if you believe India's hyped claims)

I'm not arguing, I'm just asking for enlightenment.

It doesn't work like that. What works for a dog sized robot won't work for a rhino sized battlemech.

If you scale a dog up to the size of a rhino, it'd shatter under its own weight.
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| January 5, 2011, 12:28 am
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In China, the war has taken a turn for the shorter, as our HAT-1s did their job of heavy assault spearheading very well against lesser PRC armor. Guangzhou itself is within range of our artillery, but we will not be firing on it because we wish to keep civilian casualties at a minimum. We're liberators, not destroyers. In a bold act to improve it's image with new citizens, the Emperor authorized the beginnings of a new elected councils that regional governors will need to work with, so the people have a say in what happens in their lands. This will take some time to implement though.

Furthermore, nearly 50 HAT-1 tanks have been produced, half our requested order, and some 35 Miantiao/Dove fighters have been completed. Roughly 45 of our attack helicopters are done and expected to enter service within the next few days.
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| January 5, 2011, 1:19 am
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Quoting Awesome-o-saurus The Not-So-


Good news, Awe. Sounds like you will have existing stocks of J-20s (which have only just recently done their high speed taxiing). You should have an aircraft more capible than the PAK-50 and the F35.
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| January 5, 2011, 8:59 am
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Today, in the Western Confederation:

The Israeli relief fleet has embarked on its mission of mercy today. Because of some of the merchant ship's heavy loads, the convoy will take a little longer than a military one would.

In Guatemala, the first week of training for the GAF has been completed by the WC pilots. The Guatemalans are eager to show their ability to field this new force, and a new defense budget has been passed which will provide the support needed for this fledgling arm. The merchant ship manufacturing in Guatemala has been issued the blueprints for the FTCs, construction will begin early February thanks to the WC offering $500,000 to the first company to have a keel laid and $350,000 to the second.

Production of the F-89 has reached 10, and the F-29 has reached 35 (overwriting previous claims if higher). All 32 of the fresh ones will be flown to Alaska within the month, and the F-18s aboard the Houston will be flown back to Texas and then off to Midway.

PUSH-UP training officially commences in one week.
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| January 5, 2011, 11:32 pm
The Stalemate in Nicuragua has finally broken in a spectacular advance today. Our troops are now massing outside of Managua and Santo Domingo. This advance didn't go without losses though, around 40 troops were killed and x2 were wounded, two Leopards were destroyed and three Leopards were disabled.
Our Osórios have proven themselves capable of outclassing even the newest of tanks. With a 130mm cannon, 50 Cal. roof and coax guns, a very powerful engine made to use M1 Fuel Cells, advanced targeting and Comm systems, Autoloading, barrel stabilization and finally an automatic fire suppressant system and escape hatch. (of course there are manual overrides for the electronic systems.)
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| January 5, 2011, 11:57 pm
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Quoting Matt Hacker

Good news, Awe. Sounds like you will have existing stocks of J-20s (which have only just recently done their high speed taxiing). You should have an aircraft more capible than the PAK-50 and the F35.


My reaction:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p0j0lO7uQBo


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| January 6, 2011, 12:46 am
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Quoting Awesome-o-saurus The Not-So-Great

My reaction:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p0j0lO7uQBo


Well, we can always hope it comes out like Russia's last attempt. The fact that it's so large could also indicate the inherent difficulties of trying to outproduce your tech level...

Actually, the whole thing is rather sad. I'm pretty sure the Chinese got hold of blueprints of the F-22 not too far back. Just one more reason we need to reassurt ourselves as a superpower. I know I don't want my kids speaking Chinese as a first language...
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| January 6, 2011, 1:24 am
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Quoting Ultramarine .
Well, we can always hope it comes out like Russia's last attempt. The fact that it's so large could also indicate the inherent difficulties of trying to outproduce your tech level...

Actually, the whole thing is rather sad. I'm pretty sure the Chinese got hold of blueprints of the F-22 not too far back. Just one more reason we need to reassurt ourselves as a superpower. I know I don't want my kids speaking Chinese as a first language...


Maybe they did, maybe they didn't. In anyway case, that's why I've got my Miantiao's. Can't trust these real life planes.
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| January 6, 2011, 1:40 am
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Today, in the Western Confederation:

The Israeli relief fleet is well on its way into the Atlantic. It picked up 3 cutters on its way out as they joined up.

The invasion fleet has been recalled from Guatemala's coast, leaving only 3 cutters there. The marine technicians have finished repair work on the Guatemalan ships and they are back up and ready to go since the damage was light.

Because of the agreement with Guatemala, much of the equipment slated for the Baja are being packed back up and shipped down there. While Baja was supposed to have up to four operational drydocks, only one will remain (this should increase construction rates). The static defenses will be disassembled and shipped to the new base at Puerta de Hierro along with the three drydocks's materials. It is the hope of the WCHC that the cheaper manpower in Guatemala will save the WC some $10 million overall on naval production.

The Guatemalan generals have expressed a desire for some of their Kaibiles special forces to train with the PUSH-UP program. The WCHC liked this idea and training sites within Guatemala are being selected. GAF training continues.

Our Secret Project 1 is about 67% developed (As I mentioned earlier, the ever-changing aspects of war dictate that it will keep adapting, so it will never be completed it will simply grow to whatever the newest specs require). Coordinated training with the F-89 and F-29 has begun. The new AA missiles are all but done, testing to begin on those within the month.

With recent scenarios under consideration, the WCHC has ordered a survey of dozens of sites along all borders of the WC as to what should be defended and with what. Based on the results, steps will be taken to beef up defenses. Even though we are willing not to mobilize with the fevered nervousness of some of our neighbors, we are unwilling to be caught unguarded.

Good news from the domestic front, Nebraska has finally passed the vote to join the Western Confederation. Not unanimous, it was nevertheless not a hostile decision as Utah's was bordering on.

Recruitment goes well.
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| January 6, 2011, 7:04 pm
In the CDC, construction of all 20 Desalinization facilities is complete, and all of our islands are now fully self sufficient, when it comes to water. Our many facilities are now able to produce more then enough fresh water for our citizens, and the next large project for our Labor Corps begin laying irrigation systems to boost our agricultural capacity and hopefully be able to harvest a wider variety of crops by Fall. Also, Caribbean Tech. has finished the development of the M1182 Remote Weapons System ahead of schedule, and examples are being fitted onto our prototype M55 Heavy APCs for testing. Also, new standards employed by the Department of Defense are requiring more intense physical, mental, weapons, and combat training for all recruits, and Congress has passed the construction of 15 new training facilities, complete with MOUT courses and a wide variety of terrain. Many new drill instructors are being hired, and are taking courses on how to improve discipline. To assist in this, scenes from movies such as Full Metal Jacket and Jarhead are being shown to instructors to help teach them how to turn recruits into killing machines. We hope these higher standards help improve professionalism of our military and improve proficiency with our wide array of old and new equipment. The Modular Combat Uniform project is progressing a bit slower then planned, however we are now considering turning it into a larger project, similar to the US Land Warrior combat system, and fully modernize our Infantry and Crewmen load outs among the ranks. Research into portable electronics, power sources, and weapons configurations is being started.
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| January 6, 2011, 7:52 pm
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