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International Conversation Forum XXIV
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Highlights.

-Heightened tensions around world, likely American War 2 is now almost certain.

-New technology and new advancements.

-other.
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| June 28, 2011, 8:26 pm
Eh, not my first choice.
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| June 28, 2011, 9:27 pm
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Quoting Nick Shelton
Eh, not my first choice.

For what, exactly, Mr. I'll-never-attack-you-never, hmmm?
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| June 28, 2011, 9:46 pm
Here is a link to my Flickr. Also, due to my neutral status, I'm more then willing to sell military equipment to any parties. In fact, I'm having a sale right now: Buy any 4 vehicles get your 5th one free!
Arms Catalogue:
http://www.flickr.com/groups/1664590@N24/
My Flickr:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/25932414@N02/
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| June 28, 2011, 10:00 pm
Quoting -> avalella
Here is a link to my Flickr. Also, due to my neutral status, I'm more then willing to sell military equipment to any parties. In fact, I'm having a sale right now: Buy any 4 vehicles get your 5th one free!
Arms Catalogue:
http://www.flickr.com/groups/1664590@N24/
My Flickr:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/25932414@N02/

NEUTRAL? Well, that's interesting.

I wonder how nice mister Ultramarine feels about dat. :P
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| June 28, 2011, 10:45 pm
Quoting Ultramarine .
For what, exactly, Mr. I'll-never-attack-you-never, hmmm?

Let's turn it this way, if the mod was Cliffe, or Ham, wouldn't you say the same thing?
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| June 28, 2011, 11:24 pm
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We should make me combat mod.
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| June 28, 2011, 11:30 pm
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Quoting Nick Shelton
Let's turn it this way, if the mod was Cliffe, or Ham, wouldn't you say the same thing?

This member was only involved in the last war against John. He was nice enough to loan me quite a number of soldiers, yes. However, we haven't spoken since that last war, except to say that he was going to be neutral.

Wait, is this us admitting that a certain someone was bias? Forsooth!

Quoting Awesome-o-saurus The Not-So-Great
We should make me combat mod.

That keeps you out of the war materially and physically which would be desirable. However, you yourself said last time that the presence of an ally would compromise you.
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| June 28, 2011, 11:32 pm
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Quoting Ultramarine .

That keeps you out of the war materially and physically which would be desirable. However, you yourself said last time that the presence of an ally would compromise you.


Exactly. "Suddenly, a giant hurricane sank all the Western ships, leaving the PCU fleet to sail without challenge. Problem, Ultra?"
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| June 28, 2011, 11:35 pm
Quoting Ultramarine .
This member was only involved in the last war against John. He was nice enough to loan me quite a number of soldiers, yes. However, we haven't spoken since that last war, except to say that he was going to be neutral.

Wait, is this us admitting that a certain someone was bias? Forsooth!

No? I was just saying that you would not like someone from my side of the Member List moderating things. Stop looking for things that aren't there.
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| June 29, 2011, 12:13 am
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Quoting Nick Shelton
No? I was just saying that you would not like someone from my side of the Member List moderating things. Stop looking for things that aren't there.

Well, like Evan said, you had your chance to protest it and you didn't. However, you have my personal guarantee that Andrew will be as non-biased as Ham was. Now, let's see you worm your way out of that. /gets out popcorn

Actually, it was Evan's idea too, I didn't even think about him or mention him. <-That's just so no one goes all "Wikileaks" later and makes an equally bogus claim about me and Andrew like they did about me and Jack.

Quoting Awesome-o-saurus The Not-So-Great

Exactly. "Suddenly, a giant hurricane sank all the Western ships, leaving the PCU fleet to sail without challenge. Problem, Ultra?"

Hey, at least a natural disaster would be an improvement over the last round.
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| June 29, 2011, 10:21 am
Well, here it is kiddies. Next set of orders are due by 12:00am on Friday.

Caribbean and Gulf:

-USNA cargo and merchant vessels began receiving strange warnings about them entering restricted military zones, and many contacted the local Coast Guard stations inquiring about the messages. Puzzled, the Coast Guard notified the Navy, which began investigating the issue, and detected the presence of Axis submarines. The USNA fleet already in the Gulf responded to these incidents, and after sinking engaging and sinking 1 Kilo-Class and 2 Ohio-Class submarines, the Axis ships aborted their operation and returned to friendly waters. 1 Canadian Frigate was sunk, along with 3 Coast Guard cutters that were ambushed while investigating the messaging.
-1 USNA Los Angeles-Class submarine was detected and ambushed by an EC ASW LCSs, and after sustaining non-fatal damage, was barely able to limp back to port, after unsuccessfully attempting to return fire. 15 sailors onboard the subs were killed conducting damage-control operations that saved the ship.

America:
-EC planes continue to troll the USNA with propaganda.
-64 Commandos of unknown origin attempted a raid on Whiteman AFB in Missouri. After jamming the base’s communications equipment, many personnel on the base began using their mobile phones, land lines, and even the internet to alert EC forces. Due to the haphazard nature of this communication, all 64 commandos were able to insert into the base before EC fighters were able to respond. The EC aircraft were able to shoot down the unmarked C-130 that deployed the commandos. After a firefight lasting several hours, 48 of the Commandos were found dead, 9 are in critical condition, and 7 have been detained for questioning, however as of now they are not speaking. Much damage has been done to the base, and it is out of action for the time being.

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| June 29, 2011, 11:09 pm
Quoting -> avalella
Well, here it is kiddies. Next set of orders are due by 12:00am on Friday.

Israel:
-3 Chinese Arketers and 18 MAF-2s entered Israeli airspace, and began to just “loiter” around in mid-air. After issuing several warnings (all over which were ignored due to the Chinese orders to “loiter” until out of fuel), about 50 assorted fighters from the Israeli Air Force scrambled and Surface-to-Air missiles were fired from the Ground, killing 1 Arketer and 13 MAF-2s before being routed from Allied airspace.10 Chinese pilots were captured. Very little damage was done to Israeli ground-based equipment; however 22 fighters were lost to the Chinese.

/this didn't happen.

Proof:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/40712407@N06/5886747524/in/photostream
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| June 29, 2011, 11:16 pm
Seems perfectly unbiased to me.

In minor news:
Several charity organizations have collected school supplies to donate to the needy children in the PCU. The supplies have been loaded onto a cargo ship that has just set off yesterday, and is expect to arrive around July 2nd-4th. It's totally not full of soldiers, I can tell you that. Or tanks for that matter.

Algerians rioting and all, no further developments.
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| June 29, 2011, 11:19 pm
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A message to our enemies...

China: Congratulations. You're now at war with me, Israel, and your northern neighbor. I wish you well.

EC: Congrats again, you lost more than we did, so we're content to call it good if you are.

Quoting Nick Shelton
/this didn't happen.

Proof:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/40712407@N06/5886747524/in/photostream

/CMtransferfail
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| June 29, 2011, 11:25 pm
Quoting Ultramarine .
A message to our enemies...

China: Congratulations. You're now at war with me, Israel, and your northern neighbor. I wish you well.

EC: Congrats again, you lost more than we did, so we're content to call it good if you are.


China isn't at war due to a miscommunication between the two Combat Moderators. Sorry to c-o-c-k-block you, but hey, gotta help out friends.

EDIT: We good here? :P
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| June 29, 2011, 11:27 pm
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Quoting Nick Shelton
EDIT: We good here? :P

Well, lemme see.

I say I won't attack you. Have I?

That should answer your question, shouldn't it?
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| June 29, 2011, 11:33 pm
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Gee wilickers Batman, that was close!

Yes it was, Robin. Next time, you should read things more carefully!
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| June 30, 2011, 12:21 am
Quoting Awesome-o-saurus The Not-So-Great
Gee wilickers Batman, that was close!

Yes it was, Robin. Next time, you should read things more carefully!

The orders I recieved from Evan said you wanted the planes in Israel. Can we end this conflict?
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| June 30, 2011, 12:35 am
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Quoting -> avalella
The orders I recieved from Evan said you wanted the planes in Israel. Can we end this conflict?


I specifically stated to Nick that my planes would help defend in event of an attack. Nick relayed this, I am to understand. Perhaps Evan got confused and just thought attack.

But this is not the case: IF Egypt is attacked, my planes will counter-attack. They are not to engage first.
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| June 30, 2011, 12:42 am
UPDATE:
Argentina training soldiers

Building Naval Carriers and Destroyers


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| June 30, 2011, 9:36 am
After returning from vacation and seeing this I would like to issue a statement regarding the ridiculous affair that occurred.

My subs were in international waters, and not attempting to harm any USNA civilians or military personnel, making this a rather unprovoked attack. I do not see how my ships had to go back to friendly waters when they were there in the first place.

I also fail to understand why my submarines would not fight back, because there were more than three, and after hearing distress calls from subs under attack you'd think that the others would come to their aid.

This is either extremely incompetent modding, or pure bias.

As for the commandos, the ones in critical condition will be executed, the rest will be saved and questioned, even if that means, questioning them, beating them within an inch of their lives, giving them time to heal and then repeating the process. Brazil, this will not be taken lightly. The USNA will hear from me shortly...
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| June 30, 2011, 5:24 pm
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Quoting Will G.
I also fail to understand why my submarines would not fight back, because there were more than three, and after hearing distress calls from subs under attack you'd think that the others would come to their aid.

Wrong place, wrong time. EC subs (and several outdated to boot) vs. USNA armada = CR. And what's with you attacking my subs in my waters? One could possibly misconstrue that as a blatant act of war, couldn't one?

If you actually read the CR, I lost three ships as well. Apparently, they DID fight back.

Quoting Will G.
This is either extremely incompetent modding, or pure bias.

And people call me out for complaining?

Quoting Will G.
As for the commandos, the ones in critical condition will be executed, the rest will be saved and questioned, even if that means, questioning them, beating them within an inch of their lives, giving them time to heal and then repeating the process. Brazil, this will not be taken lightly.

Oh? And blowing up a bunch of their tanks is somehow more acceptable? This for that, it would appear to me. Seems you can't take a bit of your own medicine? Thin-skinned?

Quoting Will G.
The USNA will hear from me shortly...

Better be with either surrender terms or treaty agreements with penalties if you break them.
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| June 30, 2011, 6:28 pm
Quoting Will G.

It's my belief that you told the mod that you wanted your ships in the Gulf of Mexico; however you did not clarify which side (yours or Ultra's). So you confused the mod into thinking that you had intruded into Ultra's side, and therefore constituting an act of war. It's your own fault that you did not clarify which side of the gulf your subs were in, so he was not biased or incompetent, it was in fact your vague orders that caused the sinking of your subs. You were also the one who broke into Ultra's airspace, so you therefore started the war technically so you shouldn't be complaining about his intrusions into your territory or his sinking of your ships.
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| June 30, 2011, 6:43 pm
@Brikkr-

about the game, life is suddenly and will be more busy than normal, so I'm gonna have to take a rain check.
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| June 30, 2011, 6:43 pm
Quoting henry wang
It's my belief that you told the mod that you wanted your ships in the Gulf of Mexico; however you did not clarify which side (yours or Ultra's). So you confused the mod into thinking that you had intruded into Ultra's side, and therefore constituting an act of war. It's your own fault that you did not clarify which side of the gulf your subs were in, so he was not biased or incompetent, it was in fact your vague orders that caused the sinking of your subs. You were also the one who broke into Ultra's airspace, so you therefore started the war technically so you shouldn't be complaining about his intrusions into your territory or his sinking of your ships.

"X Kilo-Class Submarines and X Ohio-Class submarines will dive very close to Ultra's waters along major trade routes and broadcast messages to surface ships..."
I said "very close", however this should have also been included in the previous CR.
Which leads me to ask, How does an "Ally" learn my plans anyway? (I would like to add that they were not even shared with my Axis friends.)


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| June 30, 2011, 7:04 pm
Quoting Will G.

It's not that hard to infer your intentions, and with your claims that they were always in friendly waters, it was pretty easy to come up with a conclusion of what your plan was by just reading the CR. So yeah, your plan wasn't that unique and secretive to the point that no one could infer your exact plans. But, close, means that they most likely were in his waters, and not to mention that during a war/conflict one can sink an enemy's ships no matter the location. I don't see why you're complaining because the way things turned out were completely fair.
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| June 30, 2011, 7:11 pm
Quoting henry wang
Quoting Will G.

It's not that hard to infer your intentions, and with your claims that they were always in friendly waters, it was pretty easy to come up with a conclusion of what your plan was by just reading the CR. So yeah, your plan wasn't that unique and secretive to the point that no one could infer your exact plans. But, close, means that they most likely were in his waters, and not to mention that during a war/conflict one can sink an enemy's ships no matter the location. I don't see why you're complaining because the way things turned out were completely fair.

I do admit, when I wrote the first reply I only skimmed through the first part of the CR and saw the part where my subs were sunk. I suppose there was no bias, however, he should infer that that since there was obviously no problem with my broadcasts the first time around the USNA Navy wouldn't just come around and sink it now.

(I guess I should just change my nation's name and make everything okay now.)

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| June 30, 2011, 7:18 pm
Only YOU can prevent CM transfer mix up causing two nations to go to war when they didn't mean to.
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| June 30, 2011, 7:50 pm
Quoting Will G.

If you read the CR clearly, you can see that your subs opened fired first as they ambushed Ultra's ships while they were interpreting the numbers (black ops reference). If you want to challenge their investigation of the broadcast, think about this. If you had mysterious broadcasts about your ship being destroyed would you not notify authorities about the strange messages? I'm sure I would.

Also if your intentions are truly to prevent wars and skirmishes from occurring be really specific on your orders to the mod, and don't play chicken with borders, eventually your pilots will make mistakes or get lost and they will cross into another country.
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| June 30, 2011, 7:59 pm
Quoting henry wang
If you read the CR clearly, you can see that your subs opened fired first as they ambushed Ultra's ships while they were interpreting the numbers (black ops reference). If you want to challenge their investigation of the broadcast, think about this. If you had mysterious broadcasts about your ship being destroyed would you not notify authorities about the strange messages? I'm sure I would.

Also if your intentions are truly to prevent wars and skirmishes from occurring be really specific on your orders to the mod, and don't play chicken with borders, eventually your pilots will make mistakes or get lost and they will cross into another country.

Unless we are reading two different reports, his subs attacked me first, then we caught one of his or something like that...
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| June 30, 2011, 8:09 pm
Quoting Will G.
Unless we are reading two different reports, his subs attacked me first, then we caught one of his or something like that...

I'm reading the one where you lost your subs, and here is the line,"1 Canadian Frigate was sunk, along with 3 Coast Guard cutters that were ambushed while investigating the messaging." Ambushed implies that your subs attacked and fired upon his ships first. While in the other case, no one has any idea where the engagement occurred. But I doubt LCS could sink a sub other than with its Seahawks because they are armed with 0 ASW weapons. The CR also implies you fired first on the occasion as well. Just look at this line,"-1 USNA Los Angeles-Class submarine was detected and ambushed by an EC ASW LCSs, and after sustaining non-fatal damage, was barely able to limp back to port, after unsuccessfully attempting to return fire." Both "return fire" and "ambush" translate to your guys firing first. So we can currently assume that you were the instigator in both cases. I just hope for your sake that you didn't go into his waters and attack one of his subs because wars can start on such incidents.
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| June 30, 2011, 8:15 pm
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Well, in the USNA...

Congress has had enough of this from the EC, even the Canadians, and are ready to do something about it. So, here goes.

The Congress of the USNA demands:
1. The cessation of 'Propaganda' bombers over our lands. If this is not met, further intruders will be shot down without question.
2. Our sea lanes are to remain clear, period. We haven't intruded on yours, and you'd best not do it further. Any further encroachments on our merchant vessels will be met with force.
3. The prisoners of war must either be released or treated according to the Geneva Accords as they were in uniform at the time of their operation and capture. We had full access to your own President for 24 hours while we suspected treason, and we let him go. Factor that into your considerations, 'sir.' (before anyone flips out, yeah, we summarily executed the Alenian operatives because they were out of uniform and therefore not protected, but they also murdered civilians instead of engaging military targets)

That's pretty much it. You've got nothing on me to hold me to anything, and you're missing some naval hardware soon to be joined by some missing aircraft unless you knock off your ridiculous nonsense. Texas is a core territory, been with us since 2014, what makes you think that they'd just up and join you? If the PCU can have an OK-born governor, surely the USNA can have a Virginian-born President (that they themselves elected freely, btw) which is southern, can they not? So one southern boy is talking smack about another southern boy and expecting a bunch of other southern boys to believe him instead of the one they said "Hmm, he's a good choice"?

Quoting Will G.
I suppose there was no bias, however, he should infer that that since there was obviously no problem with my broadcasts the first time around the USNA Navy wouldn't just come around and sink it now.

Unless said nation has specific plans in place to stop invasions with very itchy trigger-fingers. Yeah, I guess that could happen too, eh? How was the admiral to know they weren't the vanguards of an invasion fleet?

If you play with fire, you're gonna get burned, badly.

Quoting henry wang
I just hope for your sake that you didn't go into his waters and attack one of his subs because wars can start on such incidents.

I'm pretty sure he did. He's not shy about such things, he's shamelessly violated my airspace on two occasions already. I guess my counter moves didn't get passed along with some other things...

Quoting Ham N' Biscuits
Only YOU can prevent CM transfer mix up causing two nations to go to war when they didn't mean to.

It would help a whole lot if 5 nations weren't trying to play a massive cat-and-mouse game and coming within a hair's breadth of outright war every five minutes, wouldn't it?

And yet, I'm patient and haven't retaliated, have I?
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| June 30, 2011, 8:22 pm
Due to recent hostility in the lower continent, Alaskan Armed Forces have been put on full alert. Any un-authorized aircraft entering Alaskan airspace will be shot down. Homeland security will be at an absolute maximum.
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| June 30, 2011, 8:45 pm
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Quoting Will G.
"X Kilo-Class Submarines"

...And how in heaven's name do you have Russian subs?
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| June 30, 2011, 10:36 pm
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Quoting Ultramarine .
stuff about OK-born Governor


It's not about where you're born in the Union, it's about how much you do for the Union. >.>

China leans back with a slight frown on our collective faces in disdain for the current proceedings in the Southeast American area.
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| June 30, 2011, 10:42 pm
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Quoting Ultramarine .
...And how in heaven's name do you have Russian subs?

Venezuela.
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| June 30, 2011, 11:04 pm
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Quoting Tom Neumo
Venezuela.

Oh...
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| June 30, 2011, 11:06 pm
Quoting henry wang

Quoting Ultramarine

No, I did not give my subs the orders to fire upon USNA subs, I gave them orders to troll on the merchant ships.

As for all of your "terms" I'm afraid I can only agree to one. The commandos will not be killed, they will however, be held in our custody for an indefinite period of time.

On the matter of removing my bombers, I went on vacation for a few days and didn't see the need to write another set of plans because I forgot Evan wasn't doing it any more and assumed he would know my operations were one-time only (It would be foolish to think you'd fall for my trick twice), however it appears Andrew didn't know that, and let me troll you twice. All I can say is a lot of kids may get a lot of volunteer service hours picking this stuff up...
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| July 1, 2011, 12:20 am
The Atlantic Union has voted [several days ago at a pool party...] that our military will be set on stand bye, for obvious reasons...
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| July 1, 2011, 1:26 am
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Quoting Will G.
No, I did not give my subs the orders to fire upon USNA subs, I gave them orders to troll on the merchant ships.

Which, like it or not, directly precipitated an armed conflict. I have the right to protect my merchant marine from anyone anywhere regardless of which or whose waters I do it in. By threatening or uselessly "Trolling" my merchant ships, you commit an act of aggression, against civilians no less! I think it's time you accept responsibility for your actions and take the blows in stride.

What would you have done about your propaganda bombers if I shot them down? Dispute that too? It's the same thing, I have full rights to protect what is mine. You need to understand that. It's like a TP-er in Colorado with the "Make my day" law; might start out as innocent fun, but it turns deadly when the father can't tell the difference in the dark between a teenager pranking and a car thief, er, thieving.
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| July 1, 2011, 9:37 am
Quoting Will G.
No, I did not give my subs the orders to fire upon USNA subs

Your subs didn't if you read the report it was your LCSs that attacked his sub.
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| July 1, 2011, 5:44 pm
Quoting Ultramarine .
Quoting Will G.
No, I did not give my subs the orders to fire upon USNA subs, I gave them orders to troll on the merchant ships.

Which, like it or not, directly precipitated an armed conflict. I have the right to protect my merchant marine from anyone anywhere regardless of which or whose waters I do it in. By threatening or uselessly "Trolling" my merchant ships, you commit an act of aggression, against civilians no less! I think it's time you accept responsibility for your actions and take the blows in stride.

What would you have done about your propaganda bombers if I shot them down? Dispute that too? It's the same thing, I have full rights to protect what is mine. You need to understand that. It's like a TP-er in Colorado with the "Make my day" law; might start out as innocent fun, but it turns deadly when the father can't tell the difference in the dark between a teenager pranking and a car thief, er, thieving.

Overly-aggressive as usual, I see.

/4-year-old kid walks on Ultra's lawn to get his ball

/Ultra blows his head off with a shotgun
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| July 1, 2011, 6:16 pm
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Quoting Kaiser Pharaoh Cliffe
Overly-aggressive as usual, I see.

/4-year-old kid walks on Ultra's lawn to get his ball

/Ultra blows his head off with a shotgun


I'd do the same thing, then hang the body up as a warning to others.
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| July 1, 2011, 6:33 pm
Quoting Will G.

The Southern Confederation has announced that unless the Eastern Confederation treats the commandos in their possession under the Geneva Conventions, war will be declared upon them. Furthermore, if their submarines continue to harass the United States of North America's merchant shipping, military action will be used. You have untill 7:30 AM CST to respond. If not, war will be declared.
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| July 1, 2011, 8:08 pm
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Quoting Awesome-o-saurus The Not-So-Great
I'd do the same thing, then hang the body up as a warning to others.

The point was (missed as usual) that actions have unintended consequences that are no less the fault of the aggressor. It's like angry Mexican teens throwing rocks at US border guards and then being completely surprised that they get shot and shot at. Overreaction? Perhaps, but what possesses people to throw rocks at ARMED guards? Do they not suppose such a thing could happen?
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| July 1, 2011, 9:54 pm
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Quoting Ultramarine .


I wasn't talking about that at all, I was talking about if kids showed up on my lawn...

Quoting Brikkr ™
The Southern Confederation has announced that unless the Eastern Confederation treats the commandos in their possession under the Geneva Conventions, war will be declared upon them.


Allied nation sends hostile elements into Axis nation. Allied nation expects nice treatment from a hardliner like said Axis nation. My face when: http://s3.amazonaws.com/kym-assets/photos/images/original/000/112/480/OpoQQ.jpg?1302279568

See Ultra's post above for more of how I feel.
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| July 1, 2011, 10:24 pm
El Presidente lol'd at Brikkr's demands.
Anyways, orders are due by midnight tonight (EST) for a CR to be out by noon tomorrow.
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| July 1, 2011, 11:02 pm
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Quoting Awesome-o-saurus The Not-So-Great
I'd do the same thing, then hang the body up as a warning to others.

The point was (missed as usual) that actions have unintended consequences that are no less the fault of the aggressor. It's like angry Mexican teens throwing rocks at US border guards and then being completely surprised that they get shot and shot at. Overreaction? Perhaps, but what possesses people to throw rocks at ARMED guards? Do they not suppose such a thing could happen?

Quoting henry wang
Your subs didn't if you read the report it was your LCSs that attacked his sub.

Which probably violated my airspace and possibly territorial waters.
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| July 1, 2011, 11:10 pm
Argentina plans on invading Chile by August 1st. Plans are still being made it will be mostly a Navy/Air Force invasion.


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| July 2, 2011, 9:24 pm
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What?!?! No CR? This IS the second of July, right? /checkscalendar

Quoting Connor Nandell (Arcancilia at War)
Argentina plans on invading Chile by August 1st. Plans are still being made it will be mostly a Navy/Air Force invasion.


Do you have a Flickr account?
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| July 2, 2011, 9:40 pm
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What?!?! No CR? This IS the second of July, right? /checkscalendar I could have sworn someone was coming for a visit and bringing friends... >.>

Quoting Connor Nandell (Arcancilia at War)
Argentina plans on invading Chile by August 1st. Plans are still being made it will be mostly a Navy/Air Force invasion.


Do you have a Flickr account?
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| July 2, 2011, 9:41 pm
Quoting Connor Nandell (Arcancilia at War)
Argentina plans on invading Chile by August 1st. Plans are still being made it will be mostly a Navy/Air Force invasion.


Chile is a protected state of the Union, and since I get out of isolation at midnight tonight, I'd advise you to lay off. Or you know, get stopped. Just a thought.

On the CR: Goodies. :3
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| July 2, 2011, 10:24 pm
I will be gone for the next week. Boy scout camp.

/whoopie
/sarcastic

I don't think anyone needs to take over, but if it's required I'd like it to be admin controlled.
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| July 2, 2011, 10:30 pm
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Quoting Nick Shelton
Chile is a protected state of the Union, and since I get out of isolation at midnight tonight, I'd advise you to lay off. Or you know, get stopped. Just a thought.

You know what? Both the most powerful government in S. America and the most powerful government in N. America are both not exactly your friends. Now, you're basically giving the finger to the second most powerful government in S. America? You are in no position to 'Protect' a country three times larger than you and with three times your economic power when you can't even protect yourself. I'd suggest you sit down on this one. Besides, you no longer have the force projection to take 'em out if he wanted to go in.
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| July 2, 2011, 10:40 pm
Quoting Ultramarine .
You know what? Both the most powerful government in S. America and the most powerful government in N. America are both not exactly your friends. Now, you're basically giving the finger to the second most powerful government in S. America? You are in no position to 'Protect' a country three times larger than you and with three times your economic power when you can't even protect yourself. I'd suggest you sit down on this one. Besides, you no longer have the force projection to take 'em out if he wanted to go in.

http://i841.photobucket.com/albums/zz332/bravo619/8718_1160663851779_1083275045_30499.jpg

That's like saying you couldn't stop France from invading Belize or whatever. It's July 2nd, mah boi. I do what I want, when I want. Go manage your own country.
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| July 2, 2011, 11:14 pm
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Quoting Nick Shelton
That's like saying you couldn't stop France from invading Belize or whatever. It's July 2nd, mah boi. I do what I want, when I want. Go manage your own country.

Boy, for someone who owes his existence to my whims, you're getting mighty uppity. Uhh, you said yourself it wasn't until midnight...

Now, I could pretty well interfere where and when I please. Your economy would cough and die in a moment if you tried another war, and you know it. On second thought, go ahead, please self-destruct in a fruitless war!
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| July 2, 2011, 11:29 pm
Quoting Ultramarine .
Boy, for someone who owes his existence to my whims, you're getting mighty uppity. Uhh, you said yourself it wasn't until midnight...

Now, I could pretty well interfere where and when I please. Your economy would cough and die in a moment if you tried another war, and you know it. On second thought, go ahead, please self-destruct in a fruitless war!

I lol'd at your first paragraph. Then I srs'd, and wondered how come you lack any form of intelligence.

I guess I should just change my country's name and make everything okay!
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| July 2, 2011, 11:33 pm
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Quoting Ultramarine .
Besides, you no longer have the force projection to take 'em out if he wanted to go in.


The PCU force combined with the Chilean army should be more than enough. And if not, I know some Asians of particular national origin who'd be happy to go defend a friendly nation again.

Quoting Ultramarine .
Boy, for someone who owes his existence to my whims, you're getting mighty uppity.


Actually, he owes his existence to my whim. The Pacific Union is only around because I didn't permit it to fall to those who take by force what they cannot claim by right.
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| July 2, 2011, 11:35 pm
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Quoting Nick Shelton
I lol'd at your first paragraph. Then I srs'd, and wondered how come you lack any form of intelligence.

Oh, my. I did it again. I stumped Nick into where he can do nothing against the facts but sling irrelevant insults at the deliverer. Poor Nick.

People call me greedy? I was not going to get anything out of the Pacific War and I've only taken on others when they've attacked me and kept what I control; most nations do. The only 'Imperialistic' conquests I made was against Guatemala and a proxy against Belize. I simply protect Israel, not claim it as my own.

On the other hand, you've taken Senegal and two other nations, have begun conquest of a forth, and attempt to cast a 'protective' net over a fifth nation that is better suited to take care of itself than you are? And I'm the greedy one here?

You question whether Guatemala and Belize would like being controlled by a US power? How about you and Chile? I had (and have) substantial trade with them established before you decided to interfere, do you want me to pull that influence card on you? It would stand up, by the way, it has in the past. I wasn't going to, but because I can, how about we let this situation drop and let S. America be, 'k?

Quoting Nick Shelton
I guess I should just change my country's name and make everything okay!

It seems you're one of only 5 people in this group who can't wrap his mind around the truth that I am in fact an entirely different nation now. I won't bother to explain the differences again, since it's obvious the simplicity escaped you the first time.

Quoting Awesome-o-saurus The Not-So-Great
The PCU force combined with the Chilean army should be more than enough. And if not, I know some Asians of particular national origin who'd be happy to go defend a friendly nation again.

Again, I have no quarrel with you unless you quarrel with an ally of mine. Don't get too big for your britches.

Quoting Awesome-o-saurus The Not-So-Great
Actually, he owes his existence to my whim. The Pacific Union is only around because I didn't permit it to fall to those who take by force what they cannot claim by right.

You cannot draw conclusions from a cease-fire agreement. I, and my allies, were fully willing to keep going until the job was finished. You only played a minor role, even according to Nick. Yeah, some appreciation he has for all your time and trouble.

I will hereby cease from this superfluous talk. The S. American situation will be evaluated carefully, and we will exert our influence if necessary to bring about a swift conclusion.
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| July 3, 2011, 12:02 am
Quoting Ultramarine .

Oh look, it's Ultra being an skid again.

"I'm an entirely different nation now!"
All you did was change your name and add some land. Still the same corrupt people at the top.

/about hoarding land for myself.

You forgot Peru. /trollface.

/on China playing a minor role.

That was meant to mean that they didn't play a factor until the end of the war. Had you honored the cease-fire, something that will come back to bite you someday, we would be one big happy North America.

/on me being a lowly life form.

/J. Jonah Jameson laugh.



Now for something different. This South American Crisis clearly shows that the Western Confederation will not stop until the PCU has been hammered down to nothing. I'd ask for help, but I've already found out the only help I'll ever get is from the few members of the Axis. The South American Crisis will be won, and Chile will remain relatively free. /good day.
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| July 3, 2011, 12:23 am
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Unfortunately, this has become necessary...

The official word on the Chile situation, pending review of moderators on up alone with the explicit exclusion of all others, is this:

-Chile is not under any obligation to the PCU.
-Chile is not under any obligation to the USNA (which is our name now, and everyone would be well served to remember it).
-Chile rejects attempts of all outside voices to speak for it or attempt to control it outside of its continent.
-Chile's affairs are Chile's alone, and not those of anyone else.
-Chile is dedicated to the well-being of SA and SA affairs. NOT the interests of outsiders.

That being said, since I am the one that has the 'right' to speak for Chile for all intents and purposes, and could by 'right' exert far more influence than I am now, respectfully request that Chile be dealt with in a friendly and gentle manner. We urge the respective SA powers to come to some understanding with Chile (like annex it peacefully or have them vote to join you) and each other; however, at the end of the day, our hands are off the situation entirely.

That, for now with the prescribed exceptions, is the official word on the Chile situation. I continue to remind you that I could indeed make grand claims regarding my situation as alpha contact for Chile, yet I do not. Thank you for your time.

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| July 3, 2011, 1:02 am
/you serious face.

The Peruvian-Chilean-Union Economic Treaty clearly pledged Union protection over Chile. You have no "right" to do anything in Chile. You're only in this because I'm in it, child.

Speaking of Chile, I don't want to control them. We're just an economic ally, and a protector. Argentina is trying to obstruct their rights, not unlike what you do to me, and I'm going to make sure it doesn't happen, and then I'll leave. YOU'RE the one making this a big deal.

/MIDNIGHT.

The Union authorizes one Task Force to be based outside of Chilean waters to protect the rights of our Chilean partners in business.
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| July 3, 2011, 1:08 am
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Quoting Ultramarine .

Again, I have no quarrel with you unless you quarrel with an ally of mine. Don't get too big for your britches.
...
You cannot draw conclusions from a cease-fire agreement. I, and my allies, were fully willing to keep going until the job was finished. You only played a minor role, even according to Nick. Yeah, some appreciation he has for all your time and trouble.


I'd say the same to you.
...
I can draw a conclusion, contrary to your opinion, and that was that I was stopping you from making significant progress against the PCU. Your allies were weary (except maybe Brazil). Now, for that minor role, it was minor. Only 150,000 men on a defensive line. Had it gone on, it would have been thrice that, and not quite so minor.

In official news, the Koaxiang Empire stands by the Pacific Union as it always has. Together alone.
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| July 3, 2011, 1:09 am
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Quoting Nick Shelton
You have no "right" to do anything in Chile. You're only in this because I'm in it, child.

Quite the contrary. I was "In it" before you even thought of it, am I not correct?

Quoting Nick Shelton
Speaking of Chile, I don't want to control them. We're just an economic ally, and a protector.

Well, while we're on the subject, I was their economic ally first. If you want to put it that way. I think that gives me a good 3 week priority, wouldn't you say?

I couldn't care less what happens to Chile, I'm just telling you you've got less 'right' than I do, and I'm fully relinquishing mine, but not stepping aside to let you through.

Like I said, my word trumps yours as prior contact.
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| July 3, 2011, 1:19 am
Quoting Ultramarine .
Well, while we're on the subject, I was their economic ally first. If you want to put it that way. I think that gives me a good 3 week priority, wouldn't you say?

Like I said, my word trumps yours as prior contact.

You sold them a few items. I'm giving them materials in exchange for materials. I'm a bigger confident. And truly, if you cared for their safety you would have said something a month ago when I stated that they would be my ally.
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| July 3, 2011, 1:26 am
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Quoting Nick Shelton
You sold them a few items. I'm giving them materials in exchange for materials. I'm a bigger confident. And truly, if you cared for their safety you would have said something a month ago when I stated that they would be my ally.

HAHAHAHA! Yes, and played right into your pity-party at the time? I don't think so.

In truth, I have a year's long contract with them for trade; it's still ongoing. If I'd known you were going to try this stunt, I would have pipped up sooner, believe me. It's not our place to begin with to interfere. Just because I wait doesn't mean I'm any less correct here. What you've got, my friend, is merely squatter's rights. I happen to hold the deed.

If you're so afraid that your precious MAF-2s will be compromised, I suggest you get them back sooner than later. Cut loose, call it good, forget about it.
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| July 3, 2011, 1:31 am
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Quoting Ultramarine .
HAHAHAHA! Yes, and played right into your pity-party at the time? I don't think so.


Hasn't stopped you before. Besides, you didn't care about Chile until you saw that you were in a position to damage Nick further. You did a deal less than a year ago (in like, December), time passed, Argentina wants to invade, Nick says no, and suddenly, you have more claim to it than he does. Don't be afraid to tell the truth, I'd do the same thing.
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| July 3, 2011, 1:35 am
It is clear that the USNA does not care for Chile's freedom. They are not at all, in anyway, a protector of Chile, and cannot speak for it. If it went their way, the glorious state of Chile would be swallowed as a prize by the over-eager expansionist Argentina- who has warred with Chile in the past.

Therefore- Egypt and the IDU will proudly stand next to our grand ally the Pacific Union in defense of the great nation of Chile.

HEIL CHILE! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XkAz_2rAOow&feature=related
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| July 3, 2011, 1:44 am
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Quoting Awesome-o-saurus The Not-So-Great

Hasn't stopped you before. Besides, you didn't care about Chile until you saw that you were in a position to damage Nick further.

Before this dissolves into an all-out "Oh, Ultra's beating up Nick again, meany Ultra!" episode AGAIN, would you mind telling me how on earth this "Damages" Nick?

Quoting Awesome-o-saurus The Not-So-Great
You did a deal less than a year ago (in like, December), time passed, Argentina wants to invade, Nick says no, and suddenly, you have more claim to it than he does. Don't be afraid to tell the truth, I'd do the same thing.

Actually, it was about 3 weeks before Nick decided to go on a "World tour" last month and do the same thing. So no, it isn't "Suddenly."

Whatever that means, I still don't get it. The simple fact is that I have a claim that trumps his, I'm exercising it and simultaneously relinquishing it. Nick has less claim, and he's blowing it up into an all-out alliance or something. I just used my claim to overrule his claim, plain and simple.

I continue to remind everyone that first claims hold sway over pretty much everything. My declaration stands until it is overruled by someone with more stripes than Nick or the rest of the Axis, period. With the possible exception of you, I don't know.
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| July 3, 2011, 1:46 am
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Quoting Ultramarine .
Actually, it was about 3 weeks before Nick decided to go on a "World tour" last month and do the same thing. So no, it isn't "Suddenly."

Whatever that means, I still don't get it. The simple fact is that I have a claim that trumps his, I'm exercising it and simultaneously relinquishing it. Nick has less claim, and he's blowing it up into an all-out alliance or something. I just used my claim to overrule his claim, plain and simple.


Damage=Make him look bad. Your style of relations with nations you don't like is that of the Entente/Allied powers making the Versailles Treaty. It's only going to get you more enemies.

3 weeks? I don't remember this, can you link me the post? I can't respond to that last paragraph with an unclear understanding of recent events.
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| July 3, 2011, 1:51 am
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Quoting Awesome-o-saurus The Not-So-Great
Damage=Make him look bad. Your style of relations with nations you don't like is that of the Entente/Allied powers making the Versailles Treaty. It's only going to get you more enemies.

Oh, ok. Yeah, I can handle that. Sounds good.

Quoting Awesome-o-saurus The Not-So-Great
3 weeks? I don't remember this, can you link me the post? I can't respond to that last paragraph with an unclear understanding of recent events.

It was announced after the cease-fire of the second round when I was attempting to get more money with materials I had available.

http://mocpages.com/group_conversation.php?id=14411&topicid=67633

It's my second post in that thread, close to the top. Apparently by that point I had already announced they were buying oil off of me, since I made reference to that. It was probably in the previous ICF.
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| July 3, 2011, 1:59 am
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I say this Chile incident is completely blown out of proportion by all parties. How 'bout no one gets it, as a bunch of trade agreements would not equal an unabashed preference for any one nation. Just like how real life China and US get along- we don't necessarily like each other but we deal with it because we are economic partners.

Thus I see no reason for either side to claim that Chile (which is still a sovereign state) would have a preference to either the PCU or USNA. So no military defense pacts for either because both of you have made it clear that you both have trade relations with it.
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| July 3, 2011, 2:02 am
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Quoting Ultramarine .
My declaration stands until it is overruled by someone with more stripes than Nick or the rest of the Axis, period.

/Challenge accepted.

Not to look like I'm taking sides, so this goes for both of you.

Economic or trading deals should not give you control or "sway" or whatever over a foreign (even NPC) country's decisions. In the past, we;ve had alliances made, we've had the independence of NPCs guaranteed by PCCs, but simply selling coal, or any other pure trade agreement, should not give one a hand in that nation's decisions.
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| July 3, 2011, 2:04 am
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Quoting Tom Neumo
/Challenge accepted.

Not to look like I'm taking sides, so this goes for both of you.

Economic or trading deals should not give you control or "sway" or whatever over a foreign (even NPC) country's decisions. In the past, we;ve had alliances made, we've had the independence of NPCs guaranteed by PCCs, but simply selling coal, or any other pure trade agreement, should not give one a hand in that nation's decisions.

I think with all the arguing, my proclamation about Chile basically not owing either me or the PCU anything got missed. That's exactly what I said.

"-Chile is not under any obligation to the PCU.
-Chile is not under any obligation to the USNA (which is our name now, and everyone would be well served to remember it).
-Chile rejects attempts of all outside voices to speak for it or attempt to control it outside of its continent.
-Chile's affairs are Chile's alone, and not those of anyone else.
-Chile is dedicated to the well-being of SA and SA affairs. NOT the interests of outsiders."

Quoting Matt Hacker
Thus I see no reason for either side to claim that Chile (which is still a sovereign state) would have a preference to either the PCU or USNA.

That is what I said with my 'proclamation' that Chile had no obligations for the USNA or PCU.

The situation is resolved to our satisfaction. We in the USNA only wanted non-continental hands off, including our own.
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| July 3, 2011, 2:07 am
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So what about Argentina's planned invasion? The source of all this Chile business?
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| July 3, 2011, 2:10 am
I'm not even trying to produce a sway. I just said I'd protect Chile from foreign invasion.
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| July 3, 2011, 2:10 am
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Quoting Awesome-o-saurus The Not-So-Great
So what about Argentina's planned invasion? The source of all this Chile business?

It's a South American matter, our hands are washed of it, or they should be.

Quoting Nick Shelton
I'm not even trying to produce a sway. I just said I'd protect Chile from foreign invasion.

Why should you care? You're as bad as Areesta. Without poking fingers where there is soreness, you yourself expanded often by force of arms, why are you trying to stop another country from doing the same?
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| July 3, 2011, 2:13 am
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Quoting Ultramarine .
I think with all the arguing, my proclamation about Chile basically not owing either me or the PCU anything got missed. That's exactly what I said.

"-Chile is not under any obligation to the PCU.
-Chile is not under any obligation to the USNA (which is our name now, and everyone would be well served to remember it).
-Chile rejects attempts of all outside voices to speak for it or attempt to control it outside of its continent.
-Chile's affairs are Chile's alone, and not those of anyone else.
-Chile is dedicated to the well-being of SA and SA affairs. NOT the interests of outsiders."

And yet, the very fact that you're the one saying "Chile does this, Chile does that", makes it look very much like you're trying to speak for Chile...
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| July 3, 2011, 2:14 am
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Quoting Ultramarine .
It's a South American matter, our hands are washed of it, or they should be.


Unlike the Philippines, apparently. Yes, I just went there. /throws kindling to the flames

How about this: Everyone starts fighting over Chile just like what happened in the Pacific War, which will lead to a conflict in which there ares so many people involved, no one can be the combat-mod, thus stalling this group forever and ever?
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| July 3, 2011, 2:15 am
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Quoting Tom Neumo
And yet, the very fact that you're the one saying "Chile does this, Chile does that", makes it look very much like you're trying to speak for Chile...

It appears to be a moot point now, doesn't it? I mean, we both said the same thing. One could assert you're doing it too.

I was attempting to match claim for claim, since it appeared to be a fight like that. I was simply releasing Chile of all outside influences, which happens to be the decision of the mods and admins, does it not?
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| July 3, 2011, 2:16 am
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Quoting Ultramarine .
It's a [Middle Eastern] matter, our hands are washed of it, or they should be.


Cough, cough, Gulf War, cough. >.>


Quoting Ultramarine .
I was attempting to match claim for claim, since it appeared to be a fight like that. I was simply releasing Chile of all outside influences, which happens to be the decision of the mods and admins, does it not?

The mods and admins are stating that Chile never had outside influences, you're stating that they once did, but now don't.
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| July 3, 2011, 2:19 am
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Quoting Awesome-o-saurus The Not-So-Great

Unlike the Philippines, apparently. Yes, I just went there. /throws kindling to the flames

I say again, ad nauseum, I didn't start that war, yet everyone points the finger at me.

I'm not going to fight over Chile. I think it's absolutely pointless. However, now Nick will be fighting alone (without the Chilean army, navy, and air force apparently) to win.

Now, Argentina or the SC could just say that Chile voted to join them. I'd like to see Nick start a war over Chile VOTING to join another nation, that would be rather hilarious. My goal is accomplished here, if Nick wants to wage an economically collapsing war (if his "Folly Wall" didn't do it already) then I'll just sit back and watch with a bowl of popcorn, eh?

Quoting Tom Neumo
The mods and admins are stating that Chile never had outside influences, you're stating that they ounce did, but now don't.

Tomato, tamato. The end result is the same. I will refrain from it in the future.
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| July 3, 2011, 2:20 am
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Quoting Ultramarine .


No, you didn't start it. But like Germany in WWI, everyone blames you for escalating it.

And alas, I was hoping for shenanigans to go down over Chile.
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| July 3, 2011, 2:31 am
Speaking of shenanigans...

-Uzbekistan no longer occupied
-Tashkent converted into a parking lot
-Uzbeks forever alienated against foreigners by the way none of 'em stepped in to help
-Discussions and infighting regarding who gets to dictate policy in future starting to wind down a little
-OVB still running amok
-No, we don't know anything about any recent bank robberies
-New mobile and immobile SAM systems entering limited production
-New MBT design codenamed "Schrodinger VII" entering the early stages of the trial period
-Battleship fleet steaming in ferocious circles around the Caspian Sea, taking the time to glower menacingly at Turkmenistan, Iran, Azerbaijan and Russia along the way
-Brainstorming on certain worrying trends regarding intrusions in our space-space has just gotten out of the "giant trebuchet with JATO rockets" stage
-SCRAMjet superfighter engines and avionics have been sufficiently stockpiled to keep us in business for a while. The airframe itself is still going through tests, though, as are the hidden runways. Current plan for avoiding ICBM strikes involves enforcing a "no spysat" policy in our spacespace
-Airforce officers complaining loudly about how the Army gets all the fun toys
-Navy officers complaining about not having an aircraft carrier
-Army officers complaining about not getting enough of the "borrowed" Uzbek kit
-OVB officers complaining about their "Petty Theft, Vandalism, War Crimes & Assorted Hijinks" budget being slashed for this quarter to pad out their "Murder, Arson, Littering & Kidnapping" budget- we didn't think they'd notice with all the chaos, but they did anyway
-Engineer Corps officers complaining about being overworked with all the shoving around of sand and rock out in the desert
-The Orphans & Widows Department is complaining about insufficient opportunities to expand their operations into neighboring territories
-The Orphanage & Pension department is continuing to apply pressure to make sure the Orphans & Widows Department doesn't get to create more clients, claiming "we've got enough work on our plates already without them going off and giving us more to do"
-Chinese embassy opened to great fanfare
-Embassy in China stalled; project leader defends himself, says "I'm still looking for a cheap enough abandoned warehouse. These things are cripplingly expensive to rent, even before you count all the competition with drug runners and supervillains"
-Project Lolgettingwillintrouble has finalized; handler declares "this was a triumph! Great success!" before applying for intermediate language courses

-Admins: big honkin' space gun to shoot down satellites and/or bombard foreigners with re-entering shells: allowed or not?
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| July 3, 2011, 3:19 am
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Quoting Areetsa C
-Chinese embassy opened to great fanfare
-Embassy in China stalled; project leader defends himself, says "I'm still looking for a cheap enough abandoned warehouse. These things are cripplingly expensive to rent, even before you count all the competition with drug runners and supervillains"


Fo sho. Now, as for the warehouse shortage, I'm not surprised. Half of those drug runners work for the supervillains that run our government, the other half are from the PCU. I'm sure we can clear one out though.
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| July 3, 2011, 4:49 am
Well, with all this arguing going on about chile, I'll rather not get involved... The Republic of Singapore has already enough to deal with.

- Thailand was finally captured on friday, with the last of the surviving military units formally surrendering themselves to the SAF today. However, there are still many terrorist attacks occuring and incidents about suicide bombers taking place in the northen provinces as civilians there have taken up arms against the SAF forces.

- The SAF would commence the invasion of southen Myanmar on tuesday....then we shall invade vietnam:) (soon...like 2012 soon)
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| July 3, 2011, 7:43 am
In these troubling times, a Chilean diplomat has come with an offer to Spain: We will upgrade their stocks of Leo2A4s to the vastly superior Leo2E140 for an undisclosed amount per unit. Engineers will be flown in by Tuesday to begin the upgrades. Negotiations were ended with the possibility of also purchasing some of the Leos held in reserve.
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| July 3, 2011, 1:39 pm
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Quoting TheSpectre 117
- The SAF would commence the invasion of southen Myanmar on tuesday....then we shall invade vietnam:) (soon...like 2012 soon)


Vietnam? You're in for one wild ride. And by wild ride, I mean a cripplingly-long guerrilla war you have no chance of winning. They did it to the most powerful country in the world, they can do it to you.
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| July 3, 2011, 2:14 pm
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As promised, our campaign against Myanmar began yesterday evening. F18s operating from the Russian (borrowed) Mistral launched their first strikes against Myanmar Navy. Some of the more modern Frigates and Corvettes managed to shake the missiles fired at them and required follow up strikes. Of course, due to air power we were able to safely stay far away from ASMs and the SAM threat.

JAS-43 Sparvs (making long flights) managed to down 11 Myanmar Aircraft on their way to hopefully launch ASMs against the tri-nation fleet. Some were indeed launched by the GMCs specializing in this succeeded in shooting down the missiles.

So far there has been no ground invasion, although the fleet is pounding on coastal and inland defenses, which sweeping the sky for any opposing aircraft and sinking hostile naval assets.

The invasion is scheduled to begin later today to secure coastal airfields to base fighters out of to ensure aerial supremacy. So far no casualties for the UNC due to the limited scope of the campaign so far although we expect resistance to be fierce once on land.
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| July 4, 2011, 1:08 am
I hope there is a CR today, you know, for the lulz.

The HGS Pacifica is still unheard of since about April 20th. We'd be worried, but hey, the Fleet Admiral's aboard, and he knows how to sail a ship.

The Task Force heading to Chile has been underway for 24 hours so far. The amount of ships traveling so far is classified.

In Senegal, three Alexander Hamilton submarines are undergoing trials, while just across the continent in Egypt, a single Calhoun-class submarine is nearing completion, and will sail into the Mediterranean next week.

Across the border, ammo is being restocked to pre-war levels, and tanks are rolling into depots to get any damage fixed before the next War comes along.

With Chile running the risk of being invaded, Peru has asked to step up their protection by becoming a part of the Union as a vassal state. UNDEAD is allowed to take command of their military in defense. Tribute is not necessary, but it is welcome in the form of trade.

SENEGAL UPDATE:

Southern Sudan is under Senegalese control, and has been annexed into Senegal. PCU C-17s are deploying to the region to bring home wounded soldiers, and caretakers are being brought there on the planes to help jump-start growth in the area in the form of hospitals and such.
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| July 4, 2011, 2:19 am
Well with Matt begining his invasion of Myanmar, it should only be fair that I do the same:D

- As I have said before I would provide missile and artillery fire support to Matt's forces if he ever would begin his invasion, 30 SF-36 Vultures and 12 F-36C Ravens have taken off an hour ago, from various bases in Malaysia, to target radar, SAM and gun emplacements in southern Myanmar.

The 3rd RSN fleet, stationed just outside Myanmar, has been shelling coastal and inland stragic points and defences with SLAMS and QUAKEs.
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| July 4, 2011, 4:17 am
UPDATE:
Due to disagreement of the territory of Chile, Argentina will invade Uruguay by the end of the year to avoid uncalled for warfare which I'm not ready to face.

Argentina hopes that Brazil or an other nation will not have the same problem with Uruguay as we already have with Chile.

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| July 4, 2011, 10:22 am
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Today, in the USNA...

Life is still going on here, happily. The two cultures are still getting along very well, and the provinces are happy that the capital has been flourishing in Ottawa for the past couple weeks.

The FBI is keeping the necessary close tabs on the "Civilian Army" that has now grown to 10,000 in national camps. They report that their training is rigorous, almost Soviet-like in intensity and 'discipline'. They can leave anytime they wish, so technically it's not illegal. Williams is enjoying his new status as the C-in-C of this fledgling military; being formerly known as the Bane of Idaho during his security sweeps of the former PCU territory during the war, keeping insurgents from popping up. Without his iron hand, things might have gotten out of control. They have asked to purchase 100 M45 light tanks. The request is being carefully considered.

Production is ongoing on everything.

Good news for the RCA today, Honduras and El Salvador have accepted RCA diplomacy to join them. Believing that they can become very economically powerful by joining forces and economies instead of trying to fight each other or stay separate, both have been meeting for some time now, and have finalized a deal. Before anyone says I'm a copy-cat, though I must admit the timing is quite coincidental, I have been considering this for months. I didn't think it would go over well, but let's just say I've been...emboldened recently. We'll be adding their hardware to our inventories shortly.

That carrier that we were talking about is about 25% completed since mid-June. We've got about $3.5 trillion GDP (same as that of England), so we can afford it. We'll have the design posted later. There will be about 3 in its class.

Quoting Nick Shelton
With Chile running the risk of being invaded, Peru has asked to step up their protection by becoming a part of the Union as a vassal state. UNDEAD is allowed to take command of their military in defense. Tribute is not necessary, but it is welcome in the form of trade.

You're doing it again...

I might remind you that you can't pursue further aggressive actions without first FULLY updating your stats page, you know.
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| July 4, 2011, 11:29 am
In The SC...

Military production has once again opened up with war threatening in the North and Tanks, planes, and boats are being built. A large bunker system has been revealed and it is being used by a certain group for sneaky things.

Quoting Connor Nandell (Arcancilia at War)
UPDATE:
Due to disagreement of the territory of Chile, Argentina will invade Uruguay by the end of the year to avoid uncalled for warfare which I'm not ready to face.

Argentina hopes that Brazil or another nation will not have the same problem with Uruguay as we already have with Chile.
Go at it, I have no problems with Uruguay.

Quoting Ham N' Biscuits
In these troubling times, a Chilean diplomat has come with an offer to Spain: We will upgrade their stocks of Leo2A4s to the vastly superior Leo2E140 for an undisclosed amount per unit. Engineers will be flown in by Tuesday to begin the upgrades. Negotiations were ended with the possibility of also purchasing some of the Leos held in reserve.

Have fun trying. you'd have to violate Brazilian or Argentinean airspace to get them there, since you're not going through the Canal and your planes won't have the range to go over the Pacific.
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| July 4, 2011, 12:06 pm
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Quoting Evan Melick
What is this RCA you speak of?

And yes, you are correct.

Republic of Central America. Guatemala and Belize joined together to call themselves that.
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| July 4, 2011, 1:29 pm
Quoting Brikkr ™
Have fun trying. you'd have to violate Brazilian or Argentinean airspace to get them there, since you're not going through the Canal and your planes won't have the range to go over the Pacific.

I don't really mind if he uses my airspace as long as he has some of my fighter for escorts
so he doesn't get tempted.

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| July 4, 2011, 2:15 pm
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Quoting Brikkr ™
Have fun trying. you'd have to violate Brazilian or Argentinean airspace to get them there, since you're not going through the Canal and your planes won't have the range to go over the Pacific.


You know Brikkr, it is possible for planes to go around your nation. They can land somewhere in Africa, fly over the northernmost tip of Antarctica, and be in Chile. His boats could do the same exact thing. Y'all on the Allies don't seem to realize that there are more indirect routes to travel places you like to think you've blocked.

In China:
-With this invasion of Myanmar on, three squadrons of MAF-2s have been mover into the south.
-Building of things goes on, including a classified tank and the shiny new Whitefish.
-This Friday, the first Strix-class battleships other than the initial one should be finished. The Accipiter-class carriers should follow in a matter of days.
-Development of certain things continues as well.
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| July 4, 2011, 3:25 pm
Quoting Awesome-o-saurus The Not-So-Great

You know Brikkr, it is possible for planes to go around your nation. They can land somewhere in Africa, fly over the northernmost tip of Antarctica, and be in Chile. His boats could do the same exact thing. Y'all on the Allies don't seem to realize that there are more indirect routes to travel places you like to think you've blocked.

In China:
-With this invasion of Myanmar on, three squadrons of MAF-2s have been mover into the south.
-Building of things goes on, including a classified tank and the shiny new Whitefish.
-This Friday, the first Strix-class battleships other than the initial one should be finished. The Accipiter-class carriers should follow in a matter of days.
-Development of certain things continues as well.

Thanks for admitting that one of you has done that. Now I'm gonna keep a few ships down there.
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| July 4, 2011, 4:01 pm
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Quoting Brikkr ™
Thanks for admitting that one of you has done that. Now I'm gonna keep a few ships down there.


So you now control the international waters between Cape Horn and Antarctica? Sounds more like piracy to me. Do you know what we do to pirates in China?

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| July 4, 2011, 4:41 pm
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Determined not to be punked-out in our own region, the Caspian flotilla has been set to conduct maneuvers so our Alenian neighbors have something to glower at other than our coastline. Cheers.

Two new squadrons of Su-51s have been released to the Air Force after the silly business in the Federal Assembly was sorted out. An additional three squadrons of MiG-67s was also completed boosting the number of serving craft quite significantly. To help outfit these new birds, an increase in low radar observable munition pods has been issued so both classes of birds can carry weaponry outside of the cramped internal weapon bays.

The Experimental Combat and Equipment Research Institution is looking into crowd sourcing as a means of cheaply and quickly obtaining fresh and hip designs, ideas, and solutions to issues that sometimes stump our squints. More news later.

Also, a third Resolve-class vessel has been commissioned for construction. This will enable us to relieve one of the other two from their commitments if it becomes damaged in some fashion and needs immediate attention. The other two will be taking turns to extend their decks by a few meters so they can accommodate an additional three aircraft which would make the overall capacity of each vessel an even four squadrons of twelve aircraft.

Finally, we greatly resent that South Sudan was annexed by Senegal. The whole situation seems to be an act of a puppeteer, or several puppeteers for that matter, and it completely negates the fact that the S. Sudanese are surely a very independent-minded and hurt people having fought many a conflict internally with little outside help to insure their sovereignty. With acts like this, the continent will surely resemble those earlier imperialistic eras in which the African people were oppressed and exploited for their resources just as the Central American powers are as of late.
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| July 4, 2011, 4:51 pm
Quoting Awesome-o-saurus The Not-So-Great

So you now control the international waters between Cape Horn and Antarctica? Sounds more like piracy to me. Do you know what we do to pirates in China?

Send em to the moon!
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| July 4, 2011, 5:18 pm
Quoting Awesome-o-saurus The Not-So-Great

So you now control the international waters between Cape Horn and Antarctica? Sounds more like piracy to me. Do you know what we do to pirates in China?

And besides you're right under my territory, what if I felt like going south?
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| July 4, 2011, 5:37 pm
Alright guys, I'm really trying to get a CR out tonight. Thanks for bearing with me. Any last minute orders must be sent by 7:00pm EST.
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| July 4, 2011, 5:44 pm
Quoting Connor Nandell (Arcancilia at War)
And besides you're right under my territory, what if I felt like going south?

Antarctica is neutral and can't be taken over; it's related to those laws about international waters and so on. Like it or not, once someone's a certain distance from your shoreline they can do anything they want and you can't stop them without exceptionally good reason.
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| July 4, 2011, 6:30 pm
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Quoting Connor Nandell (Arcancilia at War)
And besides you're right under my territory, what if I felt like going south?


Um... What? I'm in China, that's not under you unless you consider drilling straight down through the core. I don't know what you're talking about, but Areetsa is right, international waters are international, and unless you want to be a pirate, you can't do anything about that.
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| July 4, 2011, 7:23 pm
Quoting Awesome-o-saurus The Not-So-Great

Um... What? I'm in China, that's not under you unless you consider drilling straight down through the core. I don't know what you're talking about, but Areetsa is right, international waters are international, and unless you want to be a pirate, you can't do anything about that.

Arr, me hearties!
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| July 4, 2011, 8:26 pm
Quoting Awesome-o-saurus The Not-So-Great

Um... What? I'm in China, that's not under you unless you consider drilling straight down through the core. I don't know what you're talking about, but Areetsa is right, international waters are international, and unless you want to be a pirate, you can't do anything about that.

Sorry for confusing you I was agreeing with what you said.
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| July 4, 2011, 8:36 pm
No nation is celebrating anything today on July 4th, 2037
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| July 4, 2011, 9:29 pm
Quoting Evan Melick
And that's bloody depressing.

Happy 4th kids.

Here here.
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| July 4, 2011, 10:32 pm
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Today, 1.5...

Official celebrations for the 4th of July started in the lower states, since most of the provinces observed Canada Day a few days ago. That raised a question about which national holiday should be adopted for government purposes. It was quickly decided that both would be added to the national holiday lists, but workers (banks, etc) would observe the holiday native to their lands, i.e. Canadian banks would observe (and be closed on) Canada Day while continental banks would stay open. For uniformity, the postal situation was decided that the post offices would be closed on the Monday closest to one or the other, or on the day should the two coincide. Bureaucrats, nothing is ever simple...

Quoting Evan Melick
So do you still control them directly? Or do you have them as a puppet?

I will now be able to exert the same direct control over them that I do Guatemala and Belize, yes.

Quoting Dr. Spontaneous
...exploited for their resources just as the Central American powers are as of late.

Who, me? They're free, mostly. We just get priority of trade. We pay full market value for their products. They're free to sell to others as well, they are an independent republic, after all.

Actually, we've left them be and given them a great many things. We've enhanced their power, grown their economies and guaranteed a market for their materials to increase that growth.

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| July 4, 2011, 11:13 pm
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Quoting Ham N' Biscuits
No nation is celebrating anything today on July 4th, 2037


FALSE- China is celebrating the end of what was once the world's freest nation, which, by it's downfall, was only a shadow of what it once was, potential marred and hammed by it's own petty, internal divisions!

>.>
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| July 4, 2011, 11:15 pm
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In today's Axis Team Meeting, ponies were voted to be officially approved to a vote of four aye, one neigh, and one absent *cough*Spain*cough*. Should contact be made with the Kingdom of Equestria, they shall be accepted as friends.

In other news, nothing has happened.
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| July 5, 2011, 12:42 am
Quoting Awesome-o-saurus The Not-So-Great
In today's Axis Team Meeting, one neigh.

trollface.jpg
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| July 5, 2011, 12:45 am
Quoting Awesome-o-saurus The Not-So-Great
In today's Axis Team Meeting, ponies were voted to be officially approved to a vote of four aye, one neigh, and one absent *cough*Spain*cough*. Should contact be made with the Kingdom of Equestria, they shall be accepted as friends.

In other news, nothing has happened.


I think you know my answer fellow herdmember.



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| July 5, 2011, 12:55 am
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Quoting Ham N' Biscuits

I think you know my answer fellow herdmember.


I thought as much. Five aye, one neigh. Problem, serious group?
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| July 5, 2011, 12:57 am
A h-orrible tragedy occurred today in the house of the President of the Eastern Confederation; three stray kittens, which were being raised by the president's family, were found mangl-ed on the main road to the house. It was determined that they crawled into the wheels of the presidential limo, fell out once the vehicle began to move, and were then crushed by the wheels.

In other news we laugh at the bickering over South America, and the demands of the SC. If you wish to go to war, so be it. I hope you are prepared to use your "fleet that outnumbers even the Pacific fleet of World War II." If not then take back your f-oolish remarks.
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| July 5, 2011, 1:20 am
Quoting Evan Melick
Okay, that's the last straw. We're all getting bored.

Someone start a war.

I'm waiting.

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| July 5, 2011, 1:29 am
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Quoting Evan Melick
Okay, that's the last straw. We're all getting bored.

Someone start a war.


Well, we'd all like to see the Great American War Episode III: Revenge of the Autocrats (sequel to Episode II: Attack of the Confederacies, which is a sequel to Episode I: The Phantom Philippines). However, no one wants to be the aggressor.
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| July 5, 2011, 1:42 am
what's this, Matt Hackker AND Matt P. invading Asian countries for no good reason? what the frak is this sheet?

anyway, I'm officially annexing the Philippines into the Indo Union. If anyone's got a problem, take it up with the Indo-Union and their military.
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| July 5, 2011, 3:18 am
Quoting Awesome-o-saurus The Not-So-Great

So you now control the international waters between Cape Horn and Antarctica? Sounds more like piracy to me. Do you know what we do to pirates in China?

I can hold a wee bit of ocean between Antarctica and Terra del Fuego.
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| July 5, 2011, 7:23 am
UPDATE:
So far today in the Imperial Argentine Empire
nothing has happened. But I'm tempted to change my mind about Chile.
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| July 5, 2011, 8:50 am
Quoting Connor Nandell (Arcancilia at War)
UPDATE:
So far today in the Imperial Argentine Empire
nothing has happened. But I'm tempted to change my mind about Chile.
Do you have a Flickr?

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| July 5, 2011, 8:59 am
Quoting Brikkr ™
Quoting Connor Nandell (Arcancilia at War)
UPDATE:
So far today in the Imperial Argentine Empire
nothing has happened. But I'm tempted to change my mind about Chile.
Do you have a Flickr?

No
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| July 5, 2011, 9:00 am
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Quoting Evan Melick
Okay, that's the last straw. We're all getting bored.

Someone start a war.

With Nick's extreme aversion to updating his stats, it won't be for another year. That's what you want to watch for; if he updates his stats, look out for the next CR. I just love intel you can hold in your hands!

Quoting Connor Nandell (Arcancilia at War)
No

It's a really good thing to have. All it requires is about 10 minutes. Come war time, it will be a must pretty much.
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| July 5, 2011, 9:11 am
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Quoting Awesome-o-saurus The Not-So-Great
In today's Axis Team Meeting, ponies were voted to be officially approved to a vote of four aye, one neigh, and one absent *cough*Spain*cough*. Should contact be made with the Kingdom of Equestria, they shall be accepted as friends.

In other news, nothing has happened.

<.< That decision must have been made in 10 seconds flat. >.>
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| July 5, 2011, 10:48 am
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Quoting Danny Morgan
what's this, Matt Hackker AND Matt P. invading Asian countries for no good reason? what the frak is this sheet?


I suggest you actually become active and maybe your protests would be more than a minor annoyance. If you want the cause for my invasion, dig through the ICF because I am not reiterating it.
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| July 5, 2011, 11:30 am
Quoting Tom Neumo
<.< That decision must have been made in 10 seconds flat. >.>


You just made the ICF about 20% cooler.
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| July 5, 2011, 12:14 pm
Quoting Matt Hacker

I suggest you actually become active and maybe your protests would be more than a minor annoyance. If you want the cause for my invasion, dig through the ICF because I am not reiterating it.

Awe already told me: apparently Burma "declared" war on you. So an unoccupied nation declared war on you eh? Makes no sense. All a lot of BS if you ask me. Your forces in Burma had better watch their backs... Make sure they don't linger too long on south-east Asian soil, because it's not only me whom you've got wound up about this foreign invasion...

@ Melick
Yeah, Australia invaded Micronesia...
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| July 5, 2011, 12:23 pm
Breaking news out of the Southern Confederation:
After a meeting of leaders of major countries in South America, Bolivia and Paraguay have decided to join their comrades in the south rather then fall prey to the American Imperialists plaguing the region. Trade agreements have been accepted and the countries have been put under Southern protection. A single armored division has been transferred to our border with Peru because of a looming threat of Pacifican invasion.
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| July 5, 2011, 12:36 pm
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Quoting Ham N' Biscuits

You just made the ICF about 20% cooler.

*brohoof*
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| July 5, 2011, 12:59 pm
The ACU government has just transferred an undisclosed amount of money to a private military corporation.
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| July 5, 2011, 2:02 pm
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Quoting Danny Morgan
Awe already told me: apparently Burma "declared" war on you. So an unoccupied nation declared war on you eh? Makes no sense. All a lot of BS if you ask me. Your forces in Burma had better watch their backs... Make sure they don't linger too long on south-east Asian soil, because it's not only me whom you've got wound up about this foreign invasion...


Well after installing a democratic government I WAS going to let your friend Spectre watch over it, but now that this groups 2nd least active member decides to take the greatest offense at this I hope you have the balls to back up your annoying rhetoric. In the meantime enjoy your day, and I will enjoy mine.

Also, you want to do something about it? Get a stats page otherwise you can't do anything.
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| July 5, 2011, 2:27 pm
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Quoting Brikkr ™
I can hold a wee bit of ocean between Antarctica and Terra del Fuego.


Alright, piracy it is. Look out Brikkr, we don't react well to pirates over here. The only punishment is a swift execution. And come Friday, my fleet will be ready to sail, to defend international commerce.

Quoting Tom Neumo
<.< That decision must have been made in 10 seconds flat. >.>


It really was. The Axis is indeed 20% cooler now.


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| July 5, 2011, 2:45 pm
Quoting Awesome-o-saurus The Not-So-Great

Alright, piracy it is. Look out Brikkr, we don't react well to pirates over here. The only punishment is a swift execution. And come Friday, my fleet will be ready to sail, to defend international commerce.

It's called a Navy, you have one too, right? I never said I was GOING to do that. I said I COULD do that.
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| July 5, 2011, 3:25 pm
PIRATES. ALMOST AS BAD AS COMMUNISM!

In other news, the ACU's portion of Mexico has been released to the PCU, as well as Newport News.
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| July 5, 2011, 3:29 pm
Quoting Nick Shelton
In other news, the ACU's portion of Mexico has been released to the PCU, as well as Newport News.
Confirmed



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| July 5, 2011, 3:35 pm
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Quoting Brikkr ™
It's called a Navy, you have one too, right? I never said I was GOING to do that. I said I COULD do that.


You certainly implied you were going to. We're watching you... pirate! Don't you have rum to drink and treasure to bury?
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| July 5, 2011, 3:37 pm
Quoting Evan Melick
Have him confirm and you're good. All of Virginia, or just Newport News?

Just Newport news, and the rest of my stateside land goes to Will.
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| July 5, 2011, 3:44 pm
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Invasion of Myanmar report:

Landfall was made today near the mouth of the Yangon river. Heavy resistance was met as we are clearly en route to the largest and most important city of Myanmar: Yangon/Rangoon. Our initial armor/infantry echelons have landed to encounter Soviet era MBTs and lots of angry infantrymen. Predictably, Nordic armor steamrolled over any opposition, but the determined Burmese infantry were tough to displace, causing nearly 200 casualties (including roughly 50 KIA). CAS and CAP flights are now over the area, and off-shore cruise missile support is helping deal with the most dangerous locations.

AAA managed to hit an F18, whose pilot was forced to eject, although the pilot was recovered quickly. A flight of MiG 29s was intercepted by patrolling Sparvs, where the new aircraft proved extremely adept at decimating opposition. A similar patrol of Gripens intercepted and destroyed hostile Hinds.

Naval opposition is light but persistent- the gunners on our ships are finding their MG-boats to be a nuisance at worst.

All forces have been told to watch out for "foreign intervention."
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| July 5, 2011, 3:52 pm
Quoting Evan Melick
Quittin' the game brah?
No, I've just decided that I'd rather run a PMC than a nation.

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| July 5, 2011, 3:57 pm
Quoting Evan Melick
Not bad.

http://www.myfacewhen.net/uploads/671-obama-not-bad.jpg
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| July 5, 2011, 4:05 pm
Quoting Awesome-o-saurus The Not-So-Great

You certainly implied you were going to. We're watching you... pirate! Don't you have rum to drink and treasure to bury?

Saying that I could cut the US off from Europe makes me a pirate?
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| July 5, 2011, 4:13 pm
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Quoting Brikkr ™
Saying that I could cut the US off from Europe makes me a pirate?


Saying that you're going to stop shipping in international waters makes you a pirate, which blocking off the waters between Cape Horn and Antarctica is.
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| July 5, 2011, 4:15 pm
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Quoting Brikkr ™
Saying that I could cut the US off from Europe makes me a pirate?

No, just a liar.
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| July 5, 2011, 4:27 pm
Quoting Dr. Spontaneous
Certain members of the administration feel that the quality of the ICF is being degraded with the inclusion of links to meme-oriented expressions or text-based hints to said memes [trollface.jpg for example]. No longer will these items be allowed in group conversations unless announced otherwise.

http://irk.mculp.com/system/images/30/large/okay-face.jpg?1294852785

COMMUNISM IN THE ICF.
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| July 5, 2011, 4:30 pm
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Quoting Nick Shelton

Not my idea, but yeah. Go media censorship!
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| July 5, 2011, 4:31 pm
Quoting Awesome-o-saurus The Not-So-Great

Saying that you're going to stop shipping in international waters makes you a pirate, which blocking off the waters between Cape Horn and Antarctica is.

It's called a Blockade. I also never said that I has going to Africa, did I not?
A blockade of the waters between Antarctica and South America could happen when American War III happens.
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| July 5, 2011, 4:31 pm
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Quoting Brikkr ™
It's called a Blockade. I also never said that I has going to Africa, did I not?
A blockade of the waters between Antarctica and South America could happen when American War III happens.


/You serious
Do you even know where Cape Horn is?

A blockade is perfectly legal in a time of war. Until then, it is a time of peace, and thus would constitute piracy.
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| July 5, 2011, 4:39 pm
Quoting Evan Melick
Gonna hire yourself out as a mercenary? Lol. Not bad.

Yeah, it eliminates me having to go to my friends and ask them if I can do this and that, plus image all the money there is to be made in this world of war and politics.
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| July 5, 2011, 5:01 pm
Quoting Awesome-o-saurus The Not-So-Great

/You serious
Do you even know where Cape Horn is?

A blockade is perfectly legal in a time of war. Until then, it is a time of peace, and thus would constitute piracy.

/facepalm
I thought you said Capetown...

I know that, so I'm not doing it. I think we should stop bickering and let the ICF stay clean.
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| July 5, 2011, 5:06 pm
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Quoting Brikkr ™
/facepalm
I thought you said Capetown...

I know that, so I'm not doing it. I think we should stop bickering and let the ICF stay clean.


Very well. We'll each take our respective leaves of this.

But let this be a warning to others- No piracy will be tolerated! I'm sure even Ultra will agree with me on that.
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| July 5, 2011, 5:09 pm
Quoting John Dawn
Yeah, it eliminates me having to go to my friends and ask them if I can do this and that, plus image all the money there is to be made in this world of war and politics.


Since you're going PMC, how much for production rights on those fighters?
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| July 5, 2011, 5:12 pm
Quoting Ham N' Biscuits

Since you're going PMC, how much for production rights on those fighters?

1.25 billion


Also several fully loaded 8 C-17's, an AC-130, 6 B-2's, 6 F-22's, and 12 F-43's are making their way to their new home.
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| July 5, 2011, 5:26 pm
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Quoting Nick Shelton
In other news, the ACU's portion of Mexico has been released to the PCU, as well as Newport News.

By the way, that 45 mile DMZ along the entire Mex/USNA AND the Mex/RCA border stands, I don't care if the land has switched hands or not. Crossing it, occupying it, or any attempt to do so is considered an act of war and will be prosecuted accordingly. After all, why else would you be occupying it?

Also, please don't forget that most (80%+) or all of the ACU Mex's tanks were lost in the last war. Just ask the CM of that conflict for confirmation, Henry. If you think that was bias, I have a certain naval CR I'd like to discuss with you...
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| July 5, 2011, 6:48 pm
Quoting Ultramarine .
By the way, that 45 mile DMZ along the entire Mex/USNA AND the Mex/RCA border stands, I don't care if the land has switched hands or not. Crossing it, occupying it, or any attempt to do so is considered an act of war and will be prosecuted accordingly. After all, why else would you be occupying it?

Also, please don't forget that most (80%+) or all of the ACU Mex's tanks were lost in the last war. Just ask the CM of that conflict for confirmation, Henry. If you think that was bias, I have a certain naval CR I'd like to discuss with you...

ACTUALLY...

I'm occupying it because I was gifted it. Leaving it alone would be...not cool.

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| July 5, 2011, 7:00 pm
Quoting Nick Shelton
ACTUALLY...

I'm occupying it because I was gifted it. Leaving it alone would be...not cool.

I also would like to inform you that occupying the 50-mile DMZ on my side (the West) would be an act of war. So you have one choice.
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| July 5, 2011, 7:05 pm
Quoting Brikkr ™
I also would like to inform you that occupying the 50-mile DMZ on my side (the West) would be an act of war. So you have one choice.

Why do you people think I'm going to invade you...?
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| July 5, 2011, 7:08 pm
Quoting Nick Shelton
Why do you people think I'm going to invade you...?

Because you're aggressive- and an Imperialist- all things I Don't like. And that was just a FYI.
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| July 5, 2011, 7:19 pm
Quoting John Dawn
Just Newport news, and the rest of my stateside land goes to Will.

Thanks bro, but is your PMC gonna have the ACU Navy?
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| July 5, 2011, 7:21 pm
Quoting Brikkr ™
Because you're aggressive- and an Imperialist- all things I Don't like. And that was just a FYI.

You call ME an Imperialist compared to ULTRA?

HEEEEEHAHAHAHAA!
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| July 5, 2011, 7:22 pm
Quoting Matt Hacker

Well after installing a democratic government I WAS going to let your friend Spectre watch over it, but now that this groups 2nd least active member decides to take the greatest 00fense at this I hope you have the balls to back up your ann00ying rhetoric. In the meantime enjoy your day, and I will enjoy mine.

Also, you want to do something about it? Get a stats page otherwise you can't do anything.

Try and stay on topic please...
How did Burma declare war on you? No one with an wisdom would declare war on a nation for the sole purpose of making it democratic, especially when the country in question is geographically and politically unrelated to your land.
Oh and if Spectre is going around Asia spreading democracy, he's no friend of ours.

And yes I can and I will drive you out of Asia if you continue to er... "Interfere with Asian affairs", and I'll have the support of other nations in the area.
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| July 5, 2011, 7:23 pm
Quoting Matt Hacker

Try and stay on topic please...
How did Burma declare war on you? No one (but a special person) would declare war on a nation for the sole purpose of making it democratic, especially when the country in question is geographically and politically unrelated to your land.
Oh and if Spectre is going around Asia spreading democracy, he's no friend of ours.

And yes I can and I will drive you out of Asia if you continue to er... "Interfere with Asian affairs", and I'll have the support of other nations in the area.
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| July 5, 2011, 7:26 pm
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Quoting Danny Morgan
Try and stay on topic please...
How did Burma declare war on you? No one (but a special person) would declare war on a nation for the sole purpose of making it democratic, especially when the country in question is geographically and politically unrelated to your land.
Oh and if Spectre is going around Asia spreading democracy, he's no friend of ours.

And yes I can and I will drive you out of Asia if you continue to er... "Interfere with Asian affairs", and I'll have the support of other nations in the area.


I think its funny that you think there is a reason other than sheer boredom from this, and yes, I am glad that it is now a thorn in the side of you and Awe.

Don't be hating on Spectre, he just wants to be a little regional imperialist like you!
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| July 5, 2011, 7:29 pm
Quoting Matt Hacker

I think its funny that you think there is a reason other than sheer boredom from this, and yes, I am glad that it is now a thorn in the side of you and Awe.

Oh so that's why you invaded Burma... To provoke the aggression of myself and Awe. St00pid reason.
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| July 5, 2011, 7:32 pm
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Quoting Danny Morgan
Oh so that's why you invaded Burma... To provoke the aggression of myself and Awe. St00pid reason.


My reasoning isn't "st00pid" if it has the desired effect.
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| July 5, 2011, 7:35 pm
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Quoting Danny Morgan
Oh so that's why you invaded Burma... To provoke the aggression of myself and Awe. St00pid reason.


Actually, given the way no one wants to fight in this group, I think it's a great reason.

HOWEVER- When one of the admins gets attacked, they all gang up. Or so I'm predicting. I thought they were supposed to fight each other...

Quoting Brikkr ™
Because you're aggressive- and an Imperialist- all things I Don't like. And that was just a FYI.


I laughed so hard... Well, I just laughed hard. Aggressive? Imperialist? Have you looked in the mirror, Latin-American empire?
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| July 5, 2011, 7:37 pm
Quoting Matt Hacker

My reasoning isn't "st00pid" if it has the desired effect.

That comment was in response to you saying "Good! declare war on us then!" but you changed your comment mid-way through me replying to it.

@ your newly edited comment, false bravado much?
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| July 5, 2011, 7:39 pm
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Quoting Nick Shelton
You call ME an Imperialist compared to ULTRA?

HEEEEEHAHAHAHAA!

What about me? If you want to start comparing who's 'taken' more land without being provoked, I think you'll find that the square mileage lies on your side, not mine.
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| July 5, 2011, 7:39 pm
Quoting Awesome-o-saurus The Not-So-Great

Actually, given the way no one wants to fight in this group, I think it's a great reason.

HOWEVER- When one of the admins gets attacked, they all gang up. Or so I'm predicting. I thought they were supposed to fight each other...

Quoting Brikkr ™
Because you're aggressive- and an Imperialist- all things I Don't like. And that was just a FYI.


I laughed so hard... Well, I just laughed hard. Aggressive? Imperialist? Have you looked in the mirror, Latin-American empire?

Well couldn't he haw waited for the great American War? And yeah they'll probably be gang up if we decide to drive Matt out of Burma, but h-ll, do you just want to lie down and take this?
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| July 5, 2011, 7:41 pm
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Quoting Danny Morgan
That comment was in response to you saying "Good! declare war on us then!" but you changed your comment mid-way through me replying to it.

@ your newly edited comment, false bravado much?


You clearly do not see that the whole point of the "false bravado" (which isn't actually false) is to get you angry (which it has) and thus cause you to edge closer to war. Keep playing into my hands, please...

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| July 5, 2011, 7:42 pm
Quoting Matt Hacker

You clearly do not see that the whole point of the "false bravado" (which isn't actually false) is to get you angry (which it has) and thus cause you to edge closer to war. Keep playing into my hands, please...

Hmm, lie down and let you walk all over us, or put up a fight and drive you out of Asia... Tough choice.
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| July 5, 2011, 7:45 pm
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Quoting Danny Morgan
Well couldn't he haw waited for the great American War? And yeah they'll probably be gang up if we decide to drive Matt out of Burma, but h-ll, do you just want to lie down and take this?


Eh, if Matt wants to spark global war, Asia is a good a place to do it as any. But the moment we do anything, over 9000 Russians will come pouring into my land, Australia, Scandanavia, WC, and Brazil will arrive at both our door steps, Nick would get curbstomped, Britain would invade Spain, and Tom would be forced to moderate it all.

Or something to that effect.
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| July 5, 2011, 7:45 pm
Quoting Awesome-o-saurus The Not-So-Great

Eh, if Matt wants to spark global war, Asia is a good a place to do it as any. But the moment we do anything, over 9000 Russians will come pouring into my land, Australia, Scandanavia, WC, and Brazil will arrive at both our door steps, Nick would get curbstomped, Britain would invade Spain, and Tom would be forced to moderate it all.

Or something to that effect.

That... Actually sounds quite fun. :3
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| July 5, 2011, 7:48 pm
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Quoting Evan Melick

Read ->

Quoting Evan Melick
In all honesty Erik is too lazy, and probably too scared of hordes of Chinamen crossing over into Siberia to do much.



Yeah, I didn't see that till after my comment posted. In any case, all HeII will break loose. It's an excuse for everyone!

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| July 5, 2011, 7:52 pm
Quoting Awesome-o-saurus The Not-So-Great

Actually, given the way no one wants to fight in this group, I think it's a great reason.

HOWEVER- When one of the admins gets attacked, they all gang up. Or so I'm predicting. I thought they were supposed to fight each other...

I laughed so hard... Well, I just laughed hard. Aggressive? Imperialist? Have you looked in the mirror, Latin-American empire?

Have you looked in the mirror also, Far Eastern empire?
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| July 5, 2011, 7:54 pm
Quoting Brikkr ™
Have you looked in the mirror also, Far Eastern empire?

Unoriginal Brikkr is Unoriginal.
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| July 5, 2011, 7:59 pm
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Quoting Brikkr ™
Have you looked in the mirror also, Far Eastern empire?


Yup. I'm an expansionist, imperialist, bastion of tyrannical autocracy. I've got no qualms with that. So if you don't like imperialism, you wouldn't have gone far beyond Brazil. So either you're a hypocrite, or you're lying. I like the second option more, it's not as bad for your reputation.
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| July 5, 2011, 8:00 pm
The Commonwealth completely supports the good efforts of the UNC to rid the world of bad nations. We find it funny that the Indo Union decided that he would shed blood on the Philipines then monthes after, betray not only his fallen soldiers, but also the people of the Philippines by annexing their nation. We hope that they realize that the Philippine population wants nothing to do with the IU and ever since gaining their independence after WW2 they have very strong Philippine Nationalism. Translating to little hope of any sort of annexation of the nation.

In other news, talks have begun with the Vietnamese for possible drilling rights in the South China Sea.
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| July 5, 2011, 8:25 pm
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Quoting |Brîan| C
Volunteers Army Group A have been moved to just outside Pas de Calais, in case of the coming world war. Our Light Tanks and MBTs are with them. Not all, but some.

Matt, where did you land in Burma?


The mouth of the Yangon River, with the intention of pushing to Rangoon.
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| July 5, 2011, 8:59 pm
Alright, then there is no need for a CR. I shall delete.
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| July 5, 2011, 9:31 pm
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Whoo! I'm teh Modz!

/shamelessbragging
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| July 5, 2011, 10:05 pm
Quoting Matt Hacker

I think its funny that you think there is a reason other than sheer boredom from this, and yes, I am glad that it is now a thorn in the side of you and Awe.

Don't be hating on Spectre, he just wants to be a little regional imperialist like you!


Oh....so Danny is a imperialist? Wow...anyway S'pore is not really a true democracy; it's govement is usually made up of 84 seats with the main political party usually taking up 83 seats... You can't really win an argument if there's only one person on your side xD

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In other news:
-Blah blah blah, bombardment of Myanmar, blah blah blah, more bombardment of Myanmar.....

-Oh heres something interesting: S'pore has deployed the AD-66 Ghost (a stealth experimental drone bomber) to Myanmar to bomb AA missile and gun batteries. Target kills were at 98% sucess rate.

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Quoting Danny Morgan


Well i was hoping we could all sit in a circle and sing kumbaya, i mean set up like a peacekeeping taskforce in Myanmar...
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| July 5, 2011, 11:19 pm
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Baltic News:

As of 0000 hours today in Berlin, the final voting tallies from the day before in Poland, The Czech Republic, Hungary, and Slovakia have been tallied up.

For the move to incorporate all four nations as wholly-allied member-nations of the Baltic Union has been completed. The final citizen tallies are:

Poland: 66% aye, 34% nay.
Czech Republic: 71% aye, 29% nay.
Slovakia: 74% aye, 26% nay.
Hungary: 69% aye, 31% nay.

These final tallies,upon their counting, were released to the citizens of all of the now 9 nations comprising the Baltic Union. It seems that the affirmation that ethnic and national identities will be kept was the deciding factor for many people to vote their nation into the Union. Rather than have their nation fall under the flag of one country, all 9 countries function in harmony with each other in one glorious union.

So, with the official meeting of delegates from Poland, Czech, Slovakia, and Hungary in Berlin with officials of both the governments of other Union Nations and leaders of the Union Board, a great celebration was had.

to great fanfare, the joining of the flags was held, outside union headquarters, the four new flags were added to the display with the previous five, creating nine glorious nations, in the Union, and united for the cause of economic and military success in Central and Eastern Europe.

Also, in minor news, it has been decided that the Polish, Czechoslovak, and Livonian Air Forces will in fact be combined into one big Eastern Air Force.
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| July 5, 2011, 11:35 pm
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Quoting TheSpectre 117

Oh....so Danny is a imperialist? Wow...anyway S'pore is not really a true democracy; it's govement is usually made up of 84 seats with the main political party usually taking up 83 seats... You can't really win an argument if there's only one person on your side xD

-----
In other news:
-Blah blah blah, bombardment of Myanmar, blah blah blah, more bombardment of Myanmar.....

-Oh heres something interesting: S'pore has deployed the AD-66 Ghost (a stealth experimental drone bomber) to Myanmar to bomb AA missile and gun batteries. Target kills were at 98% sucess rate.

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Quoting Danny Morgan


Well i was hoping we could all sit in a circle and sing kumbaya, i mean set up like a peacekeeping taskforce in Myanmar...


True democracy? Oh no, we've got a hole in the Steel Curtain... As for peacekeeping... Who needs it?
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| July 6, 2011, 2:19 am
Quoting henry wang
The Commonwealth completely supports the good efforts of the UNC to rid the world of bad nations. We find it funny that the Indo Union decided that he would shed blood on the Philipines then monthes after, betray not only his fallen soldiers, but also the people of the Philippines by annexing their nation. We hope that they realize that the Philippine population wants nothing to do with the IU and ever since gaining their independence after WW2 they have very strong Philippine Nationalism. Translating to little hope of any sort of annexation of the nation.

In other news, talks have begun with the Vietnamese for possible drilling rights in the South China Sea.

You speak for the Philippines now? I think not.
I have already discussed this with Awe, the Philippines will keep their cultures and traditions, even their own government, but they will work together with the IU in defense and trade. Oh, and I'd be interested to see how Vietnam reacts to your offer.

@ spectre, everyone's an imperialist in this group, even those like you who claim to be democratic whilst invading Thailand... Hypocrite.
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| July 6, 2011, 4:13 am
Quoting Danny Morgan
spectre, everyone's an imperialist in this group, even those like you who claim to be democratic whilst invading Thailand... Hypocrite.


Hehe...always a good excuse to invade other countries in the name of democracy
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| July 6, 2011, 6:43 am
To counter recent pro-democracy invasions: the list of orders sent to the provisional Uzbek government was quite carefully worded to ensure that what The People WANT and what The People GET are entirely different things.

In unrelated news: a platoon of shock troops has suddenly gone missing. Presumably they're off boozing and womanizing somewhere nearby, but it's not exactly normal for them. They'll definitely be in trouble when they show up, anyway.
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| July 6, 2011, 7:33 am
Quoting Danny Morgan

So your turning them into a puppet, you need to be much more clear and use much more subtle words because you give everyone impressions that are the opposite of what you intend.

Also, about Vietnam, mind your own business please. I'm giving them large amounts of money to get rights to drill in the South China Sea. I don't see a problem anywhere in that.
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| July 6, 2011, 8:56 am
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Quoting Nick Shelton
ACTUALLY...

I'm occupying it because I was gifted it. Leaving it alone would be...not cool.

Actually...

You were 'Gifted' with ACU Mexico, right? Well, ACU Mexico had 45 miles less of territory along my border and 50 miles less of territory along the SC's border. So, occupying it would rather exceed the boundaries gifted to you.

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| July 6, 2011, 9:05 am
I finally have a flickr account, but two things
why was it so important and what does CR mean?
Oh, my name is Connor The Awesome.
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| July 6, 2011, 9:50 am
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Quoting Connor Nandell (Arcancilia at War)
I finally have a flickr account, but two things
why was it so important and what does CR mean?
Oh, my name is Connor The Awesome.

Flickr allows you to find who you want to and talk about things that you don't want others to see with those people. Say you were wanting to team up with someone and start a war with another person. How would you communicate? Surely not here in front of everyone, right? You use Flickr to FM your orders to the CM for the CR. FM=Flickr mail, CR=combat report, CM=combat moderator (someone appointed by the combatants to evaluate the orders of two sides and determine the outcome). Here's me: http://www.flickr.com/photos/46934040@N05/
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| July 6, 2011, 9:57 am
Big things going on in the newly expanded Eastern Confederation:
-With the states acquired from the ACU, our population has now grown to around 170,000,000. -Current state and city elected government will stay in office, however they will have to swear a new oath to the Eastern Confederation and pledge their allegiance.
-All military units remaining in the ACU territory will be incorporated in the Confederate military and will receive Eastern Confederation uniforms, weapons etc.
-ACU warships, of which they have many, are either being incorporated into the Confederate Armada, or scrapped to be turned into some of our ships.
-Two propositions are being made in the Confederation today, one is that Richmond, Virginia the former capital of the CSA, and the outlying metropolitan area, will become the new capital of the EC. However, the Richmond area, which would be known as the District of Richmond, would have to be heavily modified to be able to support the government that would move into it and this would cost lots of money. The second proposition is that Washington, District of Columbia, should be made as the new capital, because it already has all preparations made to house a full governing body. (Feel free to state your opinion on which should be the capital and why.)
-Military engineers are still fretting over our latest tank design.
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| July 6, 2011, 12:41 pm
CR for July 4th

On July 4th, 2037, 36 MAF-2s, 6 E-3 Sentries, and 4 B-52s attempted to enter USNA airspace, however to the density and complexity of the early warning air defenses that were put in place by the Allies, 13 MAF-2s, and 2 E-3 Sentries, and 3 B-52s were shot down by SAMs and Allied fighter patrols, however the PCU aircraft were unable to return fire (due to the distinct nature of their payloads). 4 MAF-2s were able to deliver thier salvos of fireworks over the USNA positions before retreating back to friendly airspace. Although no more offensive missions were attempted by the PCU forces, they did continue with the raising of American flags over their positions, and the playing of the Star Spangeled Banner. SAMs on the PCU side of the border were able to get off some good hits, as well, and shot 9 assorted Allied aircraft out of the sky.

Sorry guys, but after re-examining orders by both side, and asking for the opinions of other knowledgeable Admins and former-moderators, I thought this was more realistic scenario. I'm all open for anybody else's critique of the situation, and am willing to be persuaded.
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| July 6, 2011, 1:16 pm
Nick's shenanigans make this "war" semi-entertaining.
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| July 6, 2011, 1:35 pm
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@Ultra's now deleted comment: Because the CM is a human too, Ultra. And humans like their fun. Not everyone enjoys glowering and srs bsns all the time.

Meanwhile, crisis in Nepal! Many years ago, the civil war between the government and the Maoist-Communists ended in the formation of a new government, which later became the Federal Republic of Nepal. During the madness following the downfall of the United States of America, the Maoists made their move and took over all of Nepal. We in China were content to let fellow autocrats rule in peace, even if they were dirty communists, but now we have received a call to aid. Even now, a popular uprising is beginning. So, as of this moment, the Koaxiang Empire is dispatching a force to aid in this rebellion, and restore true authority to Nepal. Watch out commies.
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| July 6, 2011, 3:27 pm
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Quoting Awesome-o-saurus The Not-So-Great
@Ultra's now deleted comment: Because the CM is a human too, Ultra. And humans like their fun. Not everyone enjoys glowering and srs bsns all the time.

This will probably get trolled into oblivion, but what is going on here is an act of war, whether you admit it or not, that I am kindly ignoring. Those planes have flagrantly violated my airspace TWICE and I haven't registered a response, which alarms me greatly. What would the reaction be if I flew planes aimlessly over the PCU? Nick had a conniption (sp) fit when I just said I was watching him, what would he do?

Every plane they send over and I shoot down is one I don't have to face later.
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| July 6, 2011, 3:52 pm
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Quoting Ultramarine .
This will probably get trolled into oblivion, but what is going on here is an act of war, whether you admit it or not, that I am kindly ignoring. Those planes have flagrantly violated my airspace TWICE and I haven't registered a response, which alarms me greatly. What would the reaction be if I flew planes aimlessly over the PCU? Nick had a conniption (sp) fit when I just said I was watching him, what would he do?

Every plane they send over and I shoot down is one I don't have to face later.


Trololololo

I think we need to take this incident with a measure of suspension of disbelief. Had it been any other instance, they probably would have gotten shot down, but being CM means that you know what's happening on all sides, and Andrew decided it'd be funnier to have this happen then just have them get shot town.
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| July 6, 2011, 4:12 pm
Guys, scroll up a bit...
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| July 6, 2011, 5:03 pm
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Quoting -> avalella
Guys, scroll up a bit...


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Combat Mod, I am disappoint. Seems nothing can be fun around here anymore. First they take away our rage faces, now they're taking away holiday shenanigans. Is nothing sacred?
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| July 6, 2011, 5:30 pm
Quoting Awesome-o-saurus The Not-So-Great

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Combat Mod, I am disappoint. Seems nothing can be fun around here anymore. First they take away our rage faces, now they're taking away holiday shenanigans. Is nothing sacred?

Well, as long as one person in this conflict wants realism, I shall try to be as realistic as reasonably possible. If you can persuade me why it shouldn't have gone like this, by all means sway me.
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| July 6, 2011, 5:33 pm
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Quoting Awesome-o-saurus The Not-So-Great

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Combat Mod, I am disappoint. Seems nothing can be fun around here anymore. First they take away our rage faces, now they're taking away holiday shenanigans. Is nothing sacred?

Well, I wasn't asking for a reversal, but I'm not going to complain about it.

However, just like with Will's planes, it is a flagrant act of war. Just because I haven't decided to prosecute it as such doesn't make it any less so. I could justify an all-out attack with this as grounds, or at least much more severe retaliation.

Basically, if you guys are going to try to violate my airspace with combat aircraft, they'd better darn well be carrying weapons and have murder in their hearts ('cause so will I) because they'll be taking losses either way. Come over for real or not at all, end of story. Have a nice day.

Oh, and Nick? You can't retaliate until you update your stats...
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| July 6, 2011, 6:02 pm
.....da heII.
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| July 6, 2011, 6:18 pm
Quoting henry wang
So your turning them into a puppet, you need to be much more clear and use much more subtle words because you give everyone impressions that are the opposite of what you intend.

Also, about Vietnam, mind your own business please. I'm giving them large amounts of money to get rights to drill in the South China Sea. I don't see a problem anywhere in that.

It is my business actually. As long as you don't start calling in military, I'll let you be.
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| July 6, 2011, 7:35 pm
Quoting Danny Morgan

I really have no idea why the South China Sea is in your jurisdiction. My business with the Vietnamese is with myself and their government. Also I have no idea why you even care that I am buying oil drilling rights for territory that belongs to the Vietnamese. Finally where exactly in that do you see any need for the military? The only thing that they will be doing is protecting my sea lanes by escorting my tankers back to my country. The freedoms of navigation act allows me to operate my naval vessels in international waters. If you have a problem with that, take it up with myself and all the other countries that want to conduct free and unobstructed trade.
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| July 6, 2011, 7:42 pm
Quoting henry wang
I really have no idea why the South China Sea is in your jurisdiction. My business with the Vietnamese is with myself and their government. Also I have no idea why you even care that I am buying oil drilling rights for territory that belongs to the Vietnamese. Finally where exactly in that do you see any need for the military? The only thing that they will be doing is protecting my sea lanes by escorting my tankers back to my country. The freedoms of the seas allows me to operate my naval vessels in international waters. If you have a problem with that, take it up with myself and all the other countries that want to conduct free and unobstructed trade.

I don't like a potential enemy that close to me, I'm sure Indonesia would feel the same in real life if an enemy of theirs or even a neutral country moving forces close to them. As long as my satellites don't spot large amounts of your military near Vietnam, we'll leave you alone.

I may seem a bit paranoid, but I'm unwilling to let anyone less-than-friendly within striking distance of me.
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| July 6, 2011, 7:50 pm
Quoting Danny Morgan

Well sadly, you can't legally do a thing about it. Sure if you want to attack me, it's fine, but you would get a lot of international backlash because you would be breaking the freedom of navigation act. Basically I can do whatever I want in international waters or the waters of any sovereign nation with their consent. So for example I can hold live fire drills with Vietnam and you could not do legal a thing about it.
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| July 6, 2011, 7:55 pm
Quoting Danny Morgan
I don't like a potential enemy that close to me, I'm sure Indonesia would feel the same in real life if an enemy of theirs or even a neutral country moving forces close to them. As long as my satellites don't spot large amounts of your military near Vietnam, we'll leave you alone.

I may seem a bit paranoid, but I'm unwilling to let anyone less-than-friendly within striking distance of me.
I'm within striking distance of Awe and you don't see him freaking out. Last time I checked, oil wells couldn't launch Harriers.

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| July 6, 2011, 7:57 pm
Quoting henry wang
Well sadly, you can't legally do a thing about it. Sure if you want to attack me, it's fine, but you would get a lot of international backlash because you would be breaking the freedom of navigation act. Basically I can do whatever I want in international waters or the waters of any sovereign nation with their consent. So for example I can hold live fire drills with Vietnam and you could not do legal a thing about it.

If I felt you were a threat to me I could. Though I would probably wait to be fired on before bombarding you.
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| July 6, 2011, 8:01 pm
Quoting Danny Morgan

Theoretically you could do anything that you want, but if you want to live long, prosper, and not get much of the world shooting at you for breaking international law I'd reconsider.
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| July 6, 2011, 8:07 pm
Quoting henry wang
Theoretically you could do anything that you want, but if you want to live long, prosper, and not get much of the world shooting at you for breaking international law I'd reconsider.

reconsider what exactly?
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| July 6, 2011, 8:13 pm
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Quoting Brikkr ™
I'm within striking distance of Awe and you don't see him freaking out. Last time I checked, oil wells couldn't launch Harriers.


It's because Awe doesn't freak out. Brikky mah boi, my contingency plan is what all true paranoid leaders strive for!
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| July 6, 2011, 8:17 pm
Quoting Danny Morgan

It's a hypothetical situation, something that need not clog up the ICF any longer. Just remember this, if you touch my ships while they are in international waters, myself and a lot of other countries will not be too happy about it.
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| July 6, 2011, 8:18 pm
In the SC...

The Confederation would like to offer peace to our friends up north in the Eastern Confederation.

In other news, a large order of aircraft has been ordered by the French. 54 F-35Cs with French controls, 48 IF-15s, again in French, and full production rights to the F-35s and production rights to the IF-15E- the export model.

Quoting Danny Morgan

Why don't you and Henry start following this advice:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=liq_wYFkMoU&feature=youtube_gdata_player
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| July 6, 2011, 8:20 pm
Quoting Brikkr ™
Quoting Danny Morgan
I don't like a potential enemy that close to me, I'm sure Indonesia would feel the same in real life if an enemy of theirs or even a neutral country moving forces close to them. As long as my satellites don't spot large amounts of your military near Vietnam, we'll leave you alone.

I may seem a bit paranoid, but I'm unwilling to let anyone less-than-friendly within striking distance of me.
I'm within striking distance of Awe and you don't see him freaking out. Last time I checked, oil wells couldn't launch Harriers.


5 bucks says they can.

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| July 6, 2011, 8:42 pm
Quoting Brikkr ™
In the SC...

The Confederation would like to offer peace to our friends up north in the Eastern Confederation.

In other news, a large order of aircraft has been ordered by the French. 54 F-35Cs with French controls, 48 IF-15s, again in French, and full production rights to the F-35s and production rights to the IF-15E- the export model.

Quoting Danny Morgan

Why don't you and Henry start following this advice:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=liq_wYFkMoU&feature=youtube_gdata_player

Didn't know we were actually at war...

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| July 6, 2011, 8:44 pm
Quoting Will G. Didn't know we were actually at war...

Well, technically. So conflict resolved?
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| July 6, 2011, 8:48 pm
Quoting Brikkr ™
Well, technically. So conflict resolved?

Hmm? Perhaps you should learn a lesson about the consequences of your actions...
No, the conflict is resolved...

For now.
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| July 6, 2011, 9:00 pm
Words cannot express how displeased I am at this very moment.

Quoting Ultramarine .

Next time, those fireworks might be bombs.
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| July 6, 2011, 9:18 pm
Quoting Nick Shelton
Words cannot express how displeased I am at this very moment.

Alright, heres the deal. You crossed the border into heavily defended airspace. I'm more than willing to change the outcome if you can provide me a simple but reasonable explanation for why things should be different. Believe me, as Combat Mod, I'm the biggest supporter of some sort of non-aggressions pact.
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| July 6, 2011, 9:29 pm
Quoting -> avalella
Alright, heres the deal. You crossed the border into heavily defended airspace. I'm more than willing to change the outcome if you can provide me a simple but reasonable explanation for why things should be different. Believe me, as Combat Mod, I'm the biggest supporter of some sort of non-aggressions pact.

For one, I said fire missiles and drop bombs full of fireworks on their border positions. Like, right on the border. My planes would have *barely* crossed the border to drop bombs, since they'd only have to drop it right on the border, and the MAF-2s were only launching missiles, which they could have done without crossing the border. The casualties would not have been that high unless they dropped in broad daylight, or the WRAF chased my planes into my airspace, both of which I know for a fact did not happen.
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| July 6, 2011, 9:38 pm
News out of the SC...

After an emergency meeting of congress, it has been decided that the Confederation will no longer be supporting the allies or go to the axis, instead it shall go on it's own path and keep out of the action up north unless attacked. Yes, you heard that right. I will be going turtle. No more association with anyone except my business partners. It has been decided for the good of the people of the Confederation, that we will not be participating in another large war. Ending on that note, all units stationed in Canada will be returning home, and the Newfoundland-Labrador Province will be released upon it's own. This will be so we can focus better on Latin america and not the shenanigans going on up North.

Basically, We've gone all Switzerland. Yep.
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| July 6, 2011, 9:42 pm
Quoting Nick Shelton
For one, I said fire missiles and drop bombs full of fireworks on their border positions. Like, right on the border. My planes would have *barely* crossed the border to drop bombs, since they'd only have to drop it right on the border, and the MAF-2s were only launching missiles, which they could have done without crossing the border. The casualties would not have been that high unless they dropped in broad daylight, or the WRAF chased my planes into my airspace, both of which I know for a fact did not happen.

Alright, thats completely understandable, however Ultra's border defenses would've definitely reacted to enemy aircraft firing (what they believed to be) missiles at their positions, and in my opinion, they would've attacked en force. I'll change the numbers a bit, but you still have to understand the fact that you did act in a blatantly offensive manner toward an enemy with weapons and extremely itchy fingers. Discuss it with Ultra, if he doesn't think his troops wouldn't have reacted like so, then I'm willing to change it back.
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| July 6, 2011, 9:47 pm
Quoting -> avalella
Alright, thats completely understandable, however Ultra's border defenses would've definitely reacted to enemy aircraft firing (what they believed to be) missiles at their positions, and in my opinion, they would've attacked en force. I'll change the numbers a bit, but you still have to understand the fact that you did act in a blatantly offensive manner toward an enemy with weapons and extremely itchy fingers. Discuss it with Ultra, if he doesn't think his troops wouldn't have reacted like so, then I'm willing to change it back.

I can understand casualties, but no way in heII would they be that high.
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| July 6, 2011, 9:51 pm
Quoting Nick Shelton
I can understand casualties, but no way in heII would they be that high.

Which one wins:
Sidewinder or Firecracker?

Missiles>Fireworks
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| July 6, 2011, 9:59 pm
Quoting Brikkr ™
Which one wins:
Sidewinder or Firecracker?

Missiles>Fireworks

My "missiles" would have been fired from my side of the border, and would not have crossed into the WRAF side of the border, causing them to be shot at.

But I know how things work around here. I saw it throughout the war. Ultra complains, things go his way. You try and fight that, but look at all the evidence stacked up against him, puppet.
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| July 6, 2011, 10:04 pm
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Quoting Nick Shelton
But I know how things work around here. I saw it throughout the war. Ultra complains, things go his way. You try and fight that, but look at all the evidence stacked up against him, puppet.


Two things about this:
1) Everyone complains about CRs all the time. EVERYONE, whether behind the scenes (like you or Cliffe) or very visibly (like Ultra). I was asked by Andrew to see whether his casualty figures were too high and I told him this: he is the CM, he can deal with it the way he sees fit because that is his duty. I also see no reason to complain about a few extra fighters (I am indeed looking at you too Ultra for last group) in a situation where both sides can pull unlimited numbers of forces because it is too difficult to keep track of numbers accurately (coupled with the fact that no one wants to lose).
2) You continually call Brikkr a "puppet" yet you are the biggest puppet of all- you must admit that without Awe you would have lost the last war, and without Awe you wouldn't even think about going to war again with Ultra. Brikkr at least could do things without someone backing him up.

@ Ultra- please lay off the complaining for once. Nick is right to complain about this because you are always the first to reply, and first to complain. You have only had to mod 1 teeny tiny conflict last group so you have no way to understand how frustrating it is to CM at all and even more so when the last 2-3 hours (in the big wars) of your life immediately comes under fire.
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| July 6, 2011, 10:28 pm
OH THE HUMANITY. NOBODY MAKE FUN OF THE ALLIES, EVER. If you even slightly poke fun at Ultra, he complains to his pals the Admins, and you will not have any fun (read: Ban on images)!

Note: I'll just change my nation's name and make everything okay.
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| July 6, 2011, 10:37 pm
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Quoting Nick Shelton
OH THE HUMANITY. NOBODY MAKE FUN OF THE ALLIES, EVER. If you even slightly poke fun at Ultra, he complains to his pals the Admins, and you will not have any fun (read: Ban on images)!

Note: I'll just change my nation's name and make everything okay.


We prefer actual words instead of pictures that if you didn't read the title you wouldn't have a clue what it meant.

We only appear like "pals" because he somehow seems to spend his entire spare time looking up the smallest details that are true and the admins can't really help but oblige to. We actually discussed this recently and we realize it makes us look horrible.

As for Brikkr name calling- I made that statement as my own opinion- no one came crying to me. Rather, I grew weary of such frankly stupid name calling that really seemed rather vicious.

As for changing the name/country, I don't know what to tell 'ya. Give it a shot.
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| July 6, 2011, 10:41 pm
Quoting Matt Hacker

We prefer actual words instead of pictures that if you didn't read the title you wouldn't have a clue what it meant.

We only appear like "pals" because he somehow seems to spend his entire spare time looking up the smallest details that are true and the admins can't really help but oblige to. We actually discussed this recently and we realize it makes us look horrible.

As for Brikkr name calling- I made that statement as my own opinion- no one came crying to me. Rather, I grew weary of such frankly stupid name calling that really seemed rather vicious.

As for changing the name/country, I don't know what to tell 'ya. Give it a shot.

A picture is worth a thousand words.

Good.

Worked for Ultra, it can work for m- wait, that's not right. Nothing ever works for me if it worked for Ultra.
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| July 6, 2011, 10:45 pm
I finally decided to change my name- this time to my real name. It was werid to read 'Brikkr'. So yeah, I've caught up to it.
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| July 6, 2011, 11:01 pm
Deal Confirmed:

I have traded production rights for the Valkyrie MKII heavy ground support VTOL for Nick and Awe's Stealth fighter, the MAF Dove II.
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| July 6, 2011, 11:07 pm
I literally do not care if Brikkr has more economical ability. Without foreign imports, he wouldn't have been able to do anything in the war. His Airforce is all imports, his Navy is nearly all foreign imports (the good parts anyway), and his tanks are probably Ultra's too. 3/4 of the units I used are made in my own country. I'm not dependent, like Brikkr.

Ultra too, is dependent. His tanks from WR factories tremble at the sight of the Union Armoured Corps. However, he imports from Scandinavia, and suddenly all of my tanks decide to up and retreat!

Jack, I admire Jack. He may not have a strong Army, but he makes up for it with his brilliant Air Force.

Will imported some Blackfish, but that's been solved.

Onto being more capable at doing things, that's not my fault either. I was coalition'd, and when I asked for help from those who pledged their help, I got NOTHING. Every CR, when I would get a small victory, and Ultra would get a large one, he would complain until he had a total victory. Fair? Not in the slightest? But life is not fair.

But I'm glad you like ragefaces, too, Evan!
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| July 6, 2011, 11:13 pm
Quoting Evan Melick
Also, because apparently there was never a 2/3 consensus on banning all the meme's, they are officially...unbanned.

Just don't bloody spam them please.

AAAAAWWWWW YEEEEAAAHHHHH!
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| July 6, 2011, 11:20 pm
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Quoting Nick Shelton
For one, I said fire missiles and drop bombs full of fireworks on their border positions. Like, right on the border. My planes would have *barely* crossed the border to drop bombs, since they'd only have to drop it right on the border, and the MAF-2s were only launching missiles, which they could have done without crossing the border. The casualties would not have been that high unless they dropped in broad daylight, or the WRAF chased my planes into my airspace, both of which I know for a fact did not happen.

You know, it's called the friction of war for a reason. Too bad, I warned you guys that this would happen. If you don't like it, you could always stop...

As for coming over for real next time? I'd love nothing better, please do. Consider this a cheap lesson in messing with someone as defensive minded as yours truly.

Oh, it's the USNAAF, just to keep it straight.

Quoting Evan Melick
Seriously Nick. I don't frankly care if you call Brikkr a puppet. That's your bloody choice. But he is a heck of a lot more capable of a country then you at the moment. If Awe hadn't come running to save you, you would have gotten steamrolled by Ultra. Sabre rattling is perfectly fine. He|| I encourage it. But it's getting to the point of insane.

Calling Brikkr a "Puppet" of me is like calling Awe a "Puppet" of Nick. He joined up just like Will, Andrew, Jack, and others did. How come Will was never called a "Puppet?" Jack? It would have been the exact same thing; and just as inaccurate too. The only reason they called him that was to cow him, and sadly, I think it might have worked.

Quoting Nick Shelton
Ultra too, is dependent. His tanks from WR factories tremble at the sight of the Union Armoured Corps. However, he imports from Scandinavia, and suddenly all of my tanks decide to up and retreat!

Umm... Not anymore. Look at the stats, my most numerous types are domestic-built. You know the King Tiger? The M4 was reasonably good at them from the sides, they were faster and more numerous. In the end, they won. My tanks have 140mm guns, which are quite sufficient for taking down the HAT-1, that's not really debatable.

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| July 6, 2011, 11:24 pm
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At this time UNC reservists/conscripts are being called up to service for an indefinite time period.
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| July 7, 2011, 12:02 am
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Just so there's no bad blood, I'd like to apologize for those who were getting trollish. This group has been very stressful lately, though, so I guess we needed some entertainment. As Nick attempted to do with the Fourth of July stunt. >.>

Anyways, it won't happen again.
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| July 7, 2011, 1:02 am
I deleted my photo, so no more troll photo out of me! :D
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| July 7, 2011, 1:19 am
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Quoting Ham N' Biscuits
I deleted my photo, so no more troll photo out of me! :D


Change your profile picture, please, just to be complete.
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| July 7, 2011, 1:22 am
Quoting Matt Hacker

Change your profile picture, please, just to be complete.


Done.
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| July 7, 2011, 1:32 am
In the PCU, the Ministry of Defense has reviewed the Aviation Department and concluded that the MAF-1 Goshawk and the MAF-3 Vesser performed less than admirably in the Great American War. Due to this lack of performance, and due to the fact the Aviation Department operates nearly 400 of these sub-par airframes, has prompted OAAE to undertake to draw up plans for a two-seater, air supremacy, 4.5th Generation Fighter named the MAF-4 Moriya.

The Marines, who are lacking air support for their troops, and don't trust them Navy bois, have requested they be allowed to keep their 60 MAF-1s, and with an executive decision, it has been allowed.

These MAF-4s have been expected to roll off the factory lines in as little as a week and a half, July 18th. The Navy has ordered 200 to replace their 300 MAF-3s, and the Air Force has ordered 120 to replace 100 MAF-1s.

The MAF-1 and MAF-3, being one seaters, and the MAF-4 being a two-seat, has prompted the Navy and Air Force to bring about 700 Reservists up to active duty, a small number.


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| July 7, 2011, 1:36 am
Quoting Evan Melick
Uhh, since apparently us three are the Illuminati, might as well act like it.

Us three been talking about this for a while, and I'll admit, it's mostly out of self-interest, especially since it seems there is another tussle brewing in North America. To make life just so much easier, IF YOU WANT TO USE A MOC IN THIS GROUP, IT HAS TO BE ON YOUR MOCPAGE. In trying to organize all the CR's I got today it literally took me over an hour to track down some MOC's people were using in their orders. It would also help if y'all purchased tech from other people, label it as so in your stats page.

Don't mean to control your lives here, but if y'all could get any MOC's you're using onto your MOCpage, it's a heck of a lot more simple to go "oh, hey he's using this *click name title*" and boom, there's the MOC, then trying to track it down on Flickr, or etc.

This means the only equipment you can use is stuff you've made yourself, correct? No more IRL gear getting used?
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| July 7, 2011, 1:55 am
Nick got his act together this week.
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| July 7, 2011, 2:51 am
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Quoting Nick Shelton
Nick got his act together this week.

Not to start a flamewar, because it shouldn't be that bad, but you and Will are claiming a total of 24 of the remaining 15 Ohio-class subs (3 sunk by count, IIRC). You guys might want to figure something out.

As a moderator, I would say that you actually have as many (minus the one that was sunk) as you claim, because I did look it up and you have their homeports; whereas Will is just claiming them to claim them it appears. But that's just me.

Also, you list most of those amphibious assault ships as 'carriers,' might be misleading, just to be a perfect stickler.

Please update your respective stats page when you come to an agreement, just make sure that the final count is 15.
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| July 7, 2011, 9:20 am
Quoting Ultramarine .
Not to start a flamewar, because it shouldn't be that bad, but you and Will are claiming a total of 24 of the remaining 15 Ohio-class subs (3 sunk by count, IIRC). You guys might want to figure something out.

As a moderator, I would say that you actually have as many (minus the one that was sunk) as you claim, because I did look it up and you have their homeports; whereas Will is just claiming them to claim them it appears. But that's just me.

Also, you list most of those amphibious assault ships as 'carriers,' might be misleading, just to be a perfect stickler.

Please update your respective stats page when you come to an agreement, just make sure that the final count is 15.

I do know I have at least one submarine base, plus John Dawn's stuff, so maybe the numbers are a little off, but they are close.

I apologize for not taking the time to read over every minute detail and then complain if something is wrong.
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| July 7, 2011, 11:34 am
Hey Y'all I'm back from my extended internet-less stay. Not that anyone really cares that much.

News for Australia:
Not much has been happening. The invasion plans for an African invasion are still under development.

Quoting Evan Melick
Wait, Matt P is invading someone?

No, just planning an invasion of Africa for sometime in the future.
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| July 7, 2011, 12:43 pm
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Quoting Will G.
I do know I have at least one submarine base, plus John Dawn's stuff, so maybe the numbers are a little off, but they are close.

I apologize for not taking the time to read over every minute detail and then complain if something is wrong.

Well, that's why we check stuff. 18 is 18, there's no 'close' about it, no more were made than that. Minus the 3 that were sunk = 15.

Apology accepted, just remember that life is in the details!

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| July 7, 2011, 12:52 pm
Quoting Ultramarine .
Well, that's why we check stuff. 18 is 18, there's no 'close' about it, no more were made than that. Minus the 3 that were sunk = 15.

Apology accepted, just remember that life is in the details!

I didn't ever send out my Ohios if I believe correctly. Who lost three?

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| July 7, 2011, 2:28 pm
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Quoting Nick Shelton
I didn't ever send out my Ohios if I believe correctly. Who lost three?

You only lost one. After the gas attack, I specifically targeted them and got one of them. Will lost two in the "Gulf Incident" last week, though I might be mistaken, but it is confirmed easy enough.
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| July 7, 2011, 2:55 pm
Quoting Ultramarine .
You only lost one. After the gas attack, I specifically targeted them and got one of them. Will lost two in the "Gulf Incident" last week, though I might be mistaken, but it is confirmed easy enough.

Ah, I'll edit.

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OAAE has two items to release this afternoon.

1.

The MAF-4 Moriya has been updated to be able to take off from short runways, STOL as some might call it, and aircraft carriers.

2.

250 HAT-1s were held before the Great American War. The Union Government has melted down all remaining ones except for 85, which will remain activated for defense purposes. The melted down parts will be repurposed into MT-5s.
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| July 7, 2011, 4:38 pm
Quoting Matt P
No, just planning an invasion of Africa for sometime in the future.


I was referring to Micronesia...
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| July 7, 2011, 8:31 pm
This will be a swell CR, that's all I'm saying. Any last minute orders are due before 12:00AM tonight (because I'm generous).
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| July 7, 2011, 10:35 pm
Quoting -> avalella
This will be a swell CR, that's all I'm saying. Any last minute orders are due before 12:00AM tonight (because I'm generous).

Oh good, thanks!
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| July 7, 2011, 10:54 pm
The Union Marine Corps is sending half a division of Marines (6,114 infantry), and 20 MAF-1s to Newport News tonight, to garrison the base.
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| July 7, 2011, 11:15 pm
I'm preparing to invade Cambodia. A large force of Valkyries will depart to dispatch any resistacne, launching from my Palau Palau island.

A12 Demons will fly ahead to scout Cambodia for military threats.

problem, Democrats?
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| July 8, 2011, 12:07 am
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Quoting Danny Morgan
I'm preparing to invade Cambodia. A large force of Valkyries will depart to dispatch any resistacne, launching from my Palau Palau island.

A12 Demons will fly ahead to scout Cambodia for military threats.

problem, Democrats?



I don't know why you think there is one. Go ahead. I frankly could care less about what you do, its a little something called "minding my own business."
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| July 8, 2011, 12:55 am
Today in the Eastern Confederation it was revealed that there are plans to build a Chinese embassy and a PCU embassy. We await permission from Spain, Egypt, Japan and Indonesia.
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| July 8, 2011, 1:51 am
Quoting Will G.
Today in the Eastern Confederation it was revealed that there are plans to build a Chinese embassy and a PCU embassy. We await permission from Spain, Egypt, Japan and Indonesia.

permission granted.

News:
the Valkyries came to a mid-air halt over the coast of Cambodia, with the high-altitude/stealth A12 Demons keeping an eye out for trouble. the government (now, in 2037, little more than a dishonorable batch of corrupt men, bought off by warlords) were notified of the IU's intention, and asked to allow the Valkyries into their airspace peacefully.

We await response.... the Valkyries have large fuel tanks and could hover there for many hours, but never-the-less, the Cambodians were given only an hour to decide.
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| July 8, 2011, 4:47 am
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News in Myanmar:

We are pleased to announce that our campaign in Myanmar is over after a series of airstrikes and a rapid encirclement of Yangon. These airstrikes hit the capital city of Naypyidaw and targeted the military leaders of the country. The airstrikes were highly successful, eliminating all targets by means of JAS-43 bombings using specially-developed bunker busters. Civilian casualties, according to our estimates, are next to zero.

The Burmese military, of course, is not phased, however, at this time we will be handing control of the overall occupation and installation of democracy to Spectre and his Singaporean invasion force.

The decision has been made in light of recent knowledge that any prolonged stay would turn into an insurgency, which is something the UNC does not desire to deal with. Ground forces have begun pulling out of the country, as we had managed to force our hand by taking the most important city of Yangon, allowing an infant democratic government to begin taking shape there.

The ground forces will be departing today, and the fleet will begin making its return to Europe today as well. Some classified "assets" will remain in-country to protect Yangon until Singaporean forces can arrive.

That is all.
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| July 8, 2011, 11:03 am
UPDATE:
Today in the Imperial Argentine Empire, Military construction workers have been and will continue to install thousands of pillboxes
(the bunker I posted yesterday), especially on the coast of Buenos Aires. The Uragauy invasion might come before November due to it being so close to Argentina. Plans are also being made for an invasion of Kerguelen (that little island between Africa and Antartica).
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| July 8, 2011, 11:19 am
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Baltic News:

In a project going on for several months now, and kept n the utmost secrecy, even from satellite coverage, The Baltic Navy is happy to report success.

As part of the plan to help unify both the Baltic Union and Poland, and to promote the integration of our two Navies,months ago, when the CEEC was just being established and the unionization plans just being drawn up, the B.N.S. Warsaw Super Carrier (of the berlin class ships), was commissioned. Now, it is finished, and was launched as part of the recent Unionization ceremony to great fanfare.

The Baltic Navy is happy to report that, after being commissioned only a few days ago, it has finally finished its sea last night, and as of this morning, is ported safe and sound with the compliment of officers and crew now getting a rest from their trials testing.

She will meet up with her new task force in harbor, and then they will make up the fourth Baltic Super Carrier battle group to date.


In other news, trade with our friends and neighbors France, Britain, Byzantium, and the UNC has been increased, in the hopes of invigorating the collective economy of Europe, and helping to preserve the tradition of collaboration we have had in Europe for a good while now.
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| July 8, 2011, 12:12 pm
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In Koaxiang China:
-We are transferring 200 MT-4s to Egypt.
-The lease of a base to Dawn's PMC has been completed.
-Building out embassy to the Eastern Confederation. It happens to be a cotton plantation, so it might take a while.
-The first MT-6s are rolling off the lines. Pictures in an hour or two.

Quoting Matt Hacker
infant democratic government.


http://danawesome.netau.net/images/Angry/stare.png
I had a dream about killing infants. (Actually, it was just punching them because they stabbed me with needles.)

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| July 8, 2011, 2:58 pm
Quoting Danny Morgan

I was referring to Micronesia...

But Evan asked the question and Micronesia was not owned by anybody.
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| July 8, 2011, 3:59 pm
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http://www.flickr.com/photos/thenotsogreat/5916087487/
And there's the photo I promised you.

In other news, quite a few new ships were completed today, in a miracle of logistics and timing.
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| July 8, 2011, 4:32 pm
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In a rather unfortunate training incident, four paratroopers were injured yesterday after the seemingly clear weather turned sour and caught the soldiers in a stray gust of wind that caused their parachutes to malfunction during deployment. One individual is in critical condition while the others only suffered a few fractures each. We deeply regret that such an incident occurred, but that's life.

Aside from that mishap, our military is hoping to reveal its new addition to the BMPT family either later this evening or early the next. The much more compact design, and brand new engine for that matter, should help with maneuvering speeds while still throwing heavy punches on the move. We must note that production has already begun with some twenty units already serving with our armoured divisions.

Development of a new MGS platform is still in the works. Although the one mounted on the H-MMCT/CV still works fine, we feel a more dedicated platform is needed to outclass similar vehicles across the globe. We again hope for a reveal some time this month after initial production begins. The main gun will consist of a 125mm smoothbore gun capable of firing slimmed down variations of recent AT munitions meant for the AMBT class of vehicles.

The final batch of Mi-24/35s is still seeing some issues granted we don't know what will actually constitute the construction of a whole other design. We're now facing the reality that we can simply strip down older variants and sling on upgrade kits and call it a day; however, we also face the fact that many of the airframes have already out-lived their recommended number of flight hours meaning many of them should be scrapped. More news on this later.

Other projects are still in the works, but are not ready to be released to the public domain for distribution in news articles and such. A program purging may be in order soon so some of the items hogging up government moneys can be halted and the funds allocated elsewhere.

Finally, we have given basing rights to the recently founded PMC company coming from the N. American continent. Aside from this announcement, everything they do is now their own business and we shan't harass them unless they threaten our way of life.
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| July 8, 2011, 5:09 pm
Quoting Tom Neumo
In other news, trade with our friends and neighbors France, Britain, Byzantium, and the UNC has been increased, in the hopes of invigorating the collective economy of Europe, and helping to preserve the tradition of collaboration we have had in Europe for a good while now.

We would like to strive for a similar idea, as we too hope to further blend our economies for the better. Yet, we are against any integration of the currency system because we find any universal currency as flawed. However, we hope to stregnthen our ties with all the nations of Europe.
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| July 8, 2011, 6:21 pm
Selection of a new President-Until-He's-Too-Weak-To-Retain-Power is going rather slow. At this rate, we'll have to hold an ELECTION, which is- well, it's not a good thing.
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| July 8, 2011, 9:04 pm
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Today, in the USNA...

The President and Congress, along with the War Department are watching developments closely with the recent lands changing hands. The occupation of the DMZ is still largely seen as blatant aggression by most in the War and Homeland Defense Departments. The President is hoping for a diplomatic solution, but the government of the Pacific Union has flatly ignored such attempts in the past with utter contempt. The President still hopes a mutually beneficial solution will yet be reached.

The newest nations of the RCA have met in Guatemala for meetings (and meetings, and meetings, and meetings) to talk about the new government and their roles in it.

Well, as always, production continues. I've been informed that I can expect a much larger production rate than I previous expected. To that end, 20 more F-40s, 5 more A/B-3s, 15 M6s, and 30 more M90s have been completed.

Quoting henry wang
Yet, we are against any integration of the currency system because we find any universal currency as flawed.

Look at the Euro. Greece and a couple others are near catastrophic collapse and yet their currency is the same value as France & Germany's. You either thrive together or dive together.
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| July 8, 2011, 9:43 pm
Can we expect a CR tonight?
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| July 8, 2011, 11:30 pm
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Quoting Will G.
Can we expect a CR tonight?


Maybe nothing really happened so there is no need for one? From what I've gleaned as of late its just a bunch of defense-only orders with no one actually moving.
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| July 8, 2011, 11:33 pm
Quoting Matt Hacker

Maybe nothing really happened so there is no need for one? From what I've gleaned as of late its just a bunch of defense-only orders with no one actually moving.

He said it would "swell", not sure if that just means no fighting. I'm glad he graciously extended the deadline, because I needed to update defensive plans. It just sounded somebody was attacking...
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| July 9, 2011, 12:16 am
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Quoting Will G.
He said it would "swell", not sure if that just means no fighting. I'm glad he graciously extended the deadline, because I needed to update defensive plans. It just sounded somebody was attacking...

Riiiight, sure. Let's just say that I didn't waste any time updating my defensive plans either. You guys just might take my advice and come over ready to fight next time instead of leaflet-bombing.
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| July 9, 2011, 12:27 am
There WILL be a CR out before 2:20pm EST.
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| July 9, 2011, 10:56 am
In the SC...

-No hidden things going on... No way.
- Production goes on, and a few ships and aircraft have been built.
- A new defense plan has been adopted and a defense line has been built on our border with Argentina.
- New Carrier designs should be up in a while.
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| July 9, 2011, 11:23 am
UPDATE:
More bunkers are being built in the western coast. Designs for new AA, AAA, and AA missle launchers are going to be made.

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| July 9, 2011, 2:56 pm
Quoting Connor Nandell (Arcancilia at War)
UPDATE:
More bunkers are being built in the western coast. Designs for new AA, AAA, and AA missle launchers are going to be made.

You don't have a western coast.
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| July 9, 2011, 3:24 pm
Quoting Tim Casey
You don't have a western coast.

Sorry I mean western border, I keep thinking I have Chile as well.
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| July 9, 2011, 3:47 pm
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In Koaxiang China, border fortifies you!

-A division was enough to strike down crumbling communist command in Nepal. We now occupy the capital. The search has begun for the rightful ruler of the land.
-Building building building.
-Otherwise, time to put our feet up and watch the world's events unfold.
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| July 9, 2011, 3:59 pm
Hey Tim, what's your Flickr account name?
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| July 9, 2011, 4:19 pm
Quoting Connor Nandell (Arcancilia at War)
Hey Tim, what's your Flickr account name?

How about a link?

http://m.flickr.com/#/photos/52840060@N08/
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| July 9, 2011, 4:47 pm
Today, in the Union...

OAAE released a picture of the MAF-4 (Beata) Moriya today: http://www.flickr.com/photos/40712407@N06/5919419135/in/photostream Tu gusta?

The Ministry of Defense has reported the disappearance of three Calhoun-class submarines.


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| July 9, 2011, 5:35 pm
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Today, in the USNA...

The launch of the USS Marauder, the third in the Brigand-class, and made from the steel melted down from the planned ship destroyed in the first war, was greatly celebrated today when she slipped from her berths in Corpus Christi. This ship is actually quite delayed in launching since I announced it during the cease-fire between the first and last conflicts on the continent. However, with the freed-up resources and time, viola (French right, Matt?). Her crew has spent months training on the others in her class, so they are quite familiar with their new ship. Two PTR-class ships have also been finished in Guatemala.

Speaking of that nation, and the others now, after all the meetings they finally came to some more agreements about the government. Now begins the process of selling it to their populace. Especially the Hondurans. They are very patriotic and aren't all that happy about the whole thing and might not agree to certain provisions. Hopefully the situation will be cleared up shortly. The Hondurans are more concerned with banding together for mutual protection against nations north and south, no matter how friendly the southern nation is.

That civilian army has taken its first casualty. A man collapsed from heat exhaustion while training in Death Valley, CA, dying an hour later from complications. Measures have been taken by the commanders of this force to increase the logistics and supplies of their men. They have also petitioned the War Department for access to an old comm satellite to make sure they can coordinate better. The public started asking questions on how this could have happened at a Presidential press conference later that day. The President reminded the press and nation that this force was not official or on the government payroll, that they did not exist as a sponsored force, that they were not supported financially in any way by the government. So basically, it wasn't his fault or responsibility.

Another 30 M90s were finished today, along with 5 M80s. 5 F-40s and 1 A/B-3 on the aircraft side of things.
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| July 9, 2011, 7:33 pm
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Quoting Ultramarine .
viola (French right, Matt?)

"Voilà", actually. A viola is a type of instrument.


In Union State news, littoral defense exercises are being held with the state of Adjara. Eight MRNCs were purchased recently from the respective Russian manufacturer after given the okay from the Federal Assembly and Ministry of Defense. Several veteran crews from Sevastopol are now teaching their Adjaran counterparts how to keep the vessels in working condition and how to maneuver them to their fullest extent without causing severe damage to the structural integrity of the craft. And all of this is being done under simulated combat. We hope this will better tie together regional interests so this small state can better compete militarily with its much larger neighbors in a time of conflict.

Things in Ukraine are winding down significantly as the Union State continues to reiterate the fact that we are here to better serve the Ukrainian people rather than our own interests. Many jobs offered by the Union State to the Independent Ukrainian civilian population have been picked up with astounding results in regards to work ethic and productivity. However, many individuals at home fear this is a sort of outsourcing and will destabilize the domestic markets near our border with Ukraine. We have yet to come up with any witty retaliation to that remark.

Also, weather may again negate our ability to hold public demonstrations of the new BMPT design [which is now dubbed the Armored Infantry Engagement Vehicle or AIEV for purposes of differentiation within the arms market]. However, we will try our best to improvise and possibly allow night trials to be filmed and aired on television to make up for our mistake in scheduling and arrangement.
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| July 9, 2011, 7:54 pm
CR Part 1/2
Southeast Asia:
The Burmese Resistance Movement (the remnants of the former Burmese military and nationalist guerrilla fighters) has began receiving large shipments of weapons, ammunition, missiles, fuel, a small amount of aircraft, and training from as-of-yet unnamed nations, and are preparing to wage an all-out guerrilla campaign against the new government. UNC forces in-country remain vigilant of pro-authoritarian supporters.
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| July 9, 2011, 10:30 pm
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Quoting -> avalella
CR Part 1/2
Southeast Asia:
The Burmese Resistance Movement (the remnants of the former Burmese military and nationalist guerrilla fighters) has began receiving large shipments of weapons, ammunition, missiles, fuel, a small amount of aircraft, and training from as-of-yet unnamed nations, and are preparing to wage an all-out guerrilla campaign against the new government. UNC forces in-country remain vigilant of pro-authoritarian supporters.


And so commences our game of cat and mouse, Awe/Danny.
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| July 9, 2011, 10:34 pm
The first 9 Lepanto Class Destroyers were finished several days ago after much delay, and are now patrolling various sectors of IAU territory.
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| July 9, 2011, 10:53 pm
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Quoting Matt Hacker

And so commences our game of cat and mouse, Awe/Danny.


Why, I haven't the slightest idea what you're talking about.

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| July 9, 2011, 11:58 pm
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Quoting Awesome-o-saurus The Not-So-Great

Why, I haven't the slightest idea what you're talking about.


When reports come that little terrorist camps with Chinese equipment/support are blown away, I will similarly play clueless and say that the Emperor is losing his mind since clearly you are not there.
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| July 10, 2011, 12:11 am
Quoting Matt Hacker

When reports come that little terrorist camps with Chinese equipment/support are blown away, I will similarly play clueless and say that the Emperor is losing his mind since clearly you are not there.

Losing? Don't you mean already lost?
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| July 10, 2011, 12:16 am
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Quoting Matt Hacker

When reports come that little terrorist camps with Chinese equipment/support are blown away, I will similarly play clueless and say that the Emperor is losing his mind since clearly you are not there.


Of course, of course. But, and this is hypothetical, if you were funding resistance against an invasion in a country near you, would you not pull the same stunt? I'm just putting that out there. Not claiming anything at all.
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| July 10, 2011, 12:18 am
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Quoting Awesome-o-saurus The Not-So-Great

Of course, of course. But, and this is hypothetical, if you were funding resistance against an invasion in a country near you, would you not pull the same stunt? I'm just putting that out there. Not claiming anything at all.



I have no qualms with things that I would do myself, of course. However, I am in an interesting position and I must react accordingly.
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| July 10, 2011, 12:19 am
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Quoting Matt Hacker


I have no qualms with things that I would do myself, of course, I am no in an interesting position and I must react accordingly.


Very well. Let the games begin.
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| July 10, 2011, 12:23 am
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Quoting Evan Melick
I don't know if Andrew is planning on going through with his threats to drop modding responsibility and quit the group, or if he plans on waking up tomorrow morning and feeling jolly.


Don't worry, I sent him a Flickr mail regarding it, and what he should do about it. Maybe it won't help, but I dealt with CM-ing pretty fine with the mindset I told him to take.
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| July 10, 2011, 1:06 am
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Quoting Evan Melick
I gave him suggestions too. Or even to find someone else to split the modding with. He's quite stubborn at times.


Aye, we could split modding up. It worked pretty well last time... For a while.
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| July 10, 2011, 1:10 am
guys... I can CM if you want... I'm unbiased in the whole America War II thing...
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| July 10, 2011, 1:12 am
Quoting Ultramarine .
From what I understand, good Will, is that Nick and I traded page for page of defensive orders. How interesting that you would accuse me of ruining a game when your buddy and pal is just as bad, eh?

He told me three paragraphs, then he admitted to six pages AFTER Evan posted. My rant was in the works before Evan posted, but I deleted it, then posted another.
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| July 10, 2011, 1:16 am
Quoting Evan Melick

When I write short orders, I'm asked to clarify.
When I write long orders, I'm asked to downsize.

/insert rage face here.

I apologize.

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| July 10, 2011, 1:17 am
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Quoting Will G.
He told me three paragraphs, then he admitted to six pages AFTER Evan posted. My rant was in the works before Evan posted, but I deleted it, then posted another.

Sounds like holding your tongue would be a first good step, eh?

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| July 10, 2011, 1:20 am
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Quoting Nick Shelton
Quoting Evan Melick

When I write short orders, I'm asked to clarify.
When I write long orders, I'm asked to downsize.


You have a very valid point. While this certainly sounds like almost a treasonous thought, perhaps there should be less control from the player and more from the CM. For example, many of these orders are critical time based strikes that do go to the teeniest detail to work.

Maybe instead of this, the player gives units, states intentions of those units, and maybe a paragraph or two on general tactics that should be used, and leave the rest to the CM.
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| July 10, 2011, 1:20 am
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Quoting Matt Hacker
Maybe instead of this, the player gives units, states intentions of those units, and maybe a paragraph or two on general tactics that should be used, and leave the rest to the CM.


...I've been doing this since 21st Century World.

>.>

<.<

It makes more work for the CM, but that way, you don't deal with super-long and complex orders. However, some things (like precision strikes on certain targets, or Black/White Ops missions) should be left in player control.
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| July 10, 2011, 1:23 am
Seems that my FM to him the other day thanking him for CM'ing didn't help? :(
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| July 10, 2011, 1:24 am
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Quoting Awesome-o-saurus The Not-So-Great

...I've been doing this since 21st Century World.

>.>

<.<

It makes more work for the CM, but that way, you don't deal with super-long and complex orders. However, some things (like precision strikes on certain targets, or Black/White Ops missions) should be left in player control.


1) So have I, Mr. Cappuccio, so have I.

2) Yes, but there needs to be a limit otherwise every strike will be like that and it would still be like the current system. Say, one thing like that per order?

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| July 10, 2011, 1:26 am
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Quoting Matt Hacker

1) So have I, Mr. Cappuccio, so have I.

2) Yes, but there needs to be a limit otherwise every strike will be like that and it would still be like the current system. Say, one thing like that per order?


Works for me. How did you find my name, anyway?
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| July 10, 2011, 1:27 am
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Quoting Awesome-o-saurus The Not-So-Great

Works for me. How did you find my name, anyway?


Mr. Ackroyd's Facebook.
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| July 10, 2011, 1:28 am
Quoting Matt Hacker

Mr. Ackroyd's Facebook.

st&lker
>.>
<.<
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| July 10, 2011, 1:38 am
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Quoting Danny Morgan
st&lker
>.>
<.<


More like "notice somebody who Cliffe, Erik, Tom, and others all have in common, and then find the usual Awe sigfig on Facebook." In other words, elementary, my dear Watson.
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| July 10, 2011, 1:41 am
Quoting Danny Morgan
st&lker
>.>
<.<

You can never have TOO much information.
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| July 10, 2011, 1:43 am
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Quoting Matt Hacker

More like "notice somebody who Cliffe, Erik, Tom, and others all have in common, and then find the usual Awe sigfig on Facebook." In other words, elementary, my dear Watson.


CLEVER BOY.
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| July 10, 2011, 1:55 am
Quoting John Dawn
Seems that my FM to him the other day thanking him for CM'ing didn't help? :(

It did. Greatly.

Quoting Matt Hacker
Maybe instead of this, the player gives units, states intentions of those units, and maybe a paragraph or two on general tactics that should be used, and leave the rest to the CM.

If these rules were in place, the CR would've been out 3 days ago... I'm ready and willing to get back to Combat Modding, but only with this system in plaec. As for the special strike thing, I'm thinking 1 per theatre (continent), because this would still be manageable. Another thing, I know that this can be extremely tedious, but grouping your equipment into units (brigade size I find works best for this type of combat) it would be much easier for you (and the Combat Mod) to determine what kind of support that unit has, instead of leaving it up to the CM to decide whether or not you have some quantity of infantry protecting a site, whether you have some form of Anti-Air equipment protecting your Armored Spearhead, and if your infantry will be walking into battle, or riding in IFVs and APCs. These kind of decisions are usually the ones causing most problems for the CM, during and after the CR has been written, and I think more organized force structure's all around will help reduce the numbers of flame wars. I know I told you guys not to be soo detailed, but if you don't tell me what kind of suppoert your troops are getting I will automatically assume none and not question you about it. Also, I will not accept ANY orders from somebody who doesn't have a stats page, FYI, so get on that. I would love for people to resend their orders if they felt that they were too long, but I will not accept but a shortened version of an already sent plan.
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| July 10, 2011, 10:13 am
Quoting -> avalella
It did. Greatly.

Good, and thank you.
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| July 10, 2011, 10:20 am
Well im back from the mosquito infested jungle camp....what did I miss?


Quoting Danny Morgan
I'm preparing to invade Cambodia. Problem, Democrats?


No, not at all. I will just have to make some changes to my plans...just save Laos for me.


Quoting Matt Hacker

When reports come that little terrorist camps with Chinese equipment/support are blown away, I will similarly play clueless and say that the Emperor is losing his mind since clearly you are not there.


Wait...Awe is helping the terrorist in Myanmar?
Cause there's no way im going to war with China >.<


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| July 10, 2011, 11:03 am
Hey kiddies, I managed to pull together some form of stats for Spain before I leave for the day, just want to let you know.


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| July 10, 2011, 11:06 am
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Quoting TheSpectre 117


Its ok, since he is using a little something called "plausible deniability" while he is helping out, it doesn't matter since its not official. Think of this like the Korean war-Russia sent planes and even sent pilots to fight for North Korea, but since USSR denied this, and said "no way we are helping out" no one really cared and it didn't spark WWIII.

In essence, you won't be going to war with Awe(technically).
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| July 10, 2011, 11:26 am
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Quoting TheSpectre 117
Wait...Awe is helping the terrorist in Myanmar?
Cause there's no way im going to war with China >.<


You see, if I am involved in Myanmar, it's not in a "We will SMITE the enemy" kind of involvement. It's a "Here, have all this stuff and training and help!" kind of involvement. We in China aren't interesting in expanding into your lands, nor even taking back what you took of Myanmar. That is, if we're down there at all.

>.>

Quoting Matt Hacker
In essence, you won't be going to war with Awe(technically).


Technically no one's at war but Myanmar and y'all yet.
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| July 10, 2011, 11:56 am
As the new Monarch of Persia I'm interested in begin relations with the countries in the area and trade relations with anybody willing. Also what is rule for replacing current vehicles with MOCs?
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| July 10, 2011, 12:36 pm
Quoting C A
As the new Monarch of Persia I'm interested in begin relations with the countries in the area and trade relations with anybody willing. Also what is rule for replacing current vehicles with MOCs?

http://www.flickr.com/photos/40712407@N06/4744912295/in/photostream/

The PCU is willing to sell our soon-to-be-retired MAF-1s for the low, low, price of 15 million a piece. >.>

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| July 10, 2011, 6:09 pm
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Quoting C A
As the new Monarch of Persia I'm interested in begin relations with the countries in the area and trade relations with anybody willing.


Hello there, Shah Cole. As a fellow monarchy, I'd like to say that if anyone tried to pull a democracy stunt with you, just call us in China and we'll help.
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| July 10, 2011, 8:18 pm
Quoting TheSpectre 117

um, nah sorry, I was going to take Laos too, however vietnam is free for your taking.
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| July 10, 2011, 8:32 pm
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So I take it there's not going to be a CR today? What about tomorrow?
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| July 11, 2011, 12:48 am
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Quoting Danny Morgan
Quoting TheSpectre 117

um, nah sorry, I was going to take Laos too, however vietnam is free for your taking.

You're not even going to give him a connecting border? Wow, nice...
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| July 11, 2011, 10:42 am
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Baltic News:

The Ministers of the interior and commerce and several other departments of the Union board have noted that the integration of our four newest member states is moving flawlessly. It seems that with rising international tensions, they were glad to "come in from the cold".

The military reports that the Polish and Czechoslovak Armies (both "A" and "B" distinctions), as well as the Eastern Air Force, are now running at top capacity.

Also, 10000! /success
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| July 11, 2011, 10:45 am
Quoting Danny Morgan
um, nah sorry, I was going to take Laos too, however vietnam is free for your taking.


Tsk...my forces are already at the Laos border awaiting the order to move out...

Quoting Awesome-o-saurus The Not-So-Great
Of course, of course. But, and this is hypothetical, if you were funding resistance against an invasion in a country near you, would you not pull the same stunt? I'm just putting that out there. Not claiming anything at all.


Dude, i would never think of invading/attacking your country... c'mon, the nearest country to S'pore with the tech to send my shiny satellites to space. Attacking you would be just pointless.
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| July 11, 2011, 10:56 am
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Quoting TheSpectre 117
Dude, i would never think of invading/attacking your country... c'mon, the nearest country to S'pore with the tech to send my shiny satellites to space. Attacking you would be just pointless.


A fine point. Attacking me would be pointless, for anyone. Except maybe Russia...

Also, do you have a Flickr?
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| July 11, 2011, 2:14 pm
The Eastern Confederation has become a better place today, with may things happening.

At the funerals ceremonies for the men killed by the WC in the Gulf Incident, over one hundred supporters of the Westboro Baptist Church were protesting, claiming the Gulf Incident happened because the Confederation is a f@g-loving, Godless nation, doomed to be destroyed by God's wrath. When some Confederation Military Police kindly requested for them to move, a brawl ensued and the two military police quickly apprehended two of the protesters.

After that the MP's went straight to the army who, without warning, fired tear gas into the crowd from the smoke tubes on Abrams tanks. The gas canisters were quickly thrown back at the army, which provoked them to open fire.
When the last shot was fired the losses were as follows:
-5 120mm rounds
-187 7.62x51mm rounds
-629 .50 caliber bullets
-24 tear gas canisters
-115 |D|OTS dead
-2 lucky |D|OTS in custody

Although receiving mostly negative media attention, the President has praised the soldiers for properly defending themselves in the face of danger.

The two apprehended protesters have each been charged with:
-Flag burning, 2 counts
-Assaulting a Confederate Soldier, 1 count
-Unlawful protesting, 1 count
This adds up to a total of 25 years in a federal prison. (Hope they don't, you know, drop the soap...)

Even bigger news for the Confederation, after viewing a map of the world, the President noticed that the islands of the Pacific, mainly Guam and American Samoa, were rather unprotected and could fall prey to vicious Asian, Australian or, God-forbid, Western Republic expansionism. This led to the planning of Operation: Confederate Pacific, which has played out rather nicely so far.
-This morning two Confederate C-17's dropped 268 paratroopers over Pago Pago International Airport in American Samoa. After securing the airport, two more C-17's were cleared to land and dropped off 6 Stryker ICV's.
-A similar insertion occurred over Andersen AFB in Guam.
-Reinforcements will arrive over the next few days.

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| July 11, 2011, 6:25 pm
Two C-27s have disappeared from Naval Air Station San Diego, as well as two platoons of White Ops.
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| July 11, 2011, 6:48 pm
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Quoting Will G.
When the last shot was fired the losses were as follows:
-5 120mm rounds
-187 7.62x51mm rounds
-629 .50 caliber bullets
-24 tear gas canisters
-115 |D|OTS dead
-2 lucky |D|OTS in custody


The Koaxiang Empire formally applauds the destruction of the Westboro Baptist Church.

Meanwhile:
-A new king reigns in Nepal, 4,000 Chinese troops will stay to back his rule until he consolidates power.
-All the pro-democracy supporters have either come to our side or have tragically disappeared.
-Building building building.
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| July 11, 2011, 6:48 pm
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Quoting Will G.
Even bigger news for the Confederation, after viewing a map of the world, the President noticed that the islands of the Pacific, mainly Guam and American Samoa, were rather unprotected and could fall prey to vicious Asian, Australian or, God-forbid, Western Republic expansionism. This led to the planning of Operation: Confederate Pacific, which has played out rather nicely so far.
-This morning two Confederate C-17's dropped 268 paratroopers over Pago Pago International Airport in American Samoa. After securing the airport, two more C-17's were cleared to land and dropped off 6 Stryker ICV's.
-A similar insertion occurred over Andersen AFB in Guam.
-Reinforcements will arrive over the next few days.

Congratulations, you're now at war with the Pacific Union, LOL! Both of those islands were claimed by Nick at the very beginning of this group...in the same conversation that I got Midway and Wake. Looks like you're still on our side, eh?
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| July 11, 2011, 7:02 pm
Quoting Ultramarine .
Congratulations, you're now at war with the Pacific Union, LOL! Both of those islands were claimed by Nick at the very beginning of this group...in the same conversation that I got Midway and Wake. Looks like you're still on our side, eh?

Interesting, when I asked Nick about this, an hour ago he acted as if he didn't own these islands. I'm sure something can be worked out here.
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| July 11, 2011, 7:09 pm
Quoting Will G.
Interesting, when I asked Nick about this, an hour ago he acted as if he didn't own these islands. I'm sure something can be worked out here.

Woopsie.
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| July 11, 2011, 7:17 pm
Quoting Will G.

Even bigger news for the Confederation, after viewing a map of the world, the President noticed that the islands of the Pacific, mainly Guam and American Samoa, were rather unprotected and could fall prey to vicious Asian, Australian or, God-forbid, Western Republic expansionism. This led to the planning of Operation: Confederate Pacific, which has played out rather nicely so far.
-This morning two Confederate C-17's dropped 268 paratroopers over Pago Pago International Airport in American Samoa. After securing the airport, two more C-17's were cleared to land and dropped off 6 Stryker ICV's.
-A similar insertion occurred over Andersen AFB in Guam.
-Reinforcements will arrive over the next few days.

Le no. My air base in the Samoas would've detected and intercepted them. Oh and watch out for my artillery if you continue.
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| July 11, 2011, 7:54 pm
Quoting Tim Casey
Le no. My air base in the Samoas would've detected and intercepted them. Oh and watch out for my artillery if you continue.

Le yes, Tiny Tim.
The Samoa's have been a territory of the PCU since the beginning, unless...
CONGRATULATIONS! You are now at war with the PCU and the EC.
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| July 11, 2011, 8:17 pm
Quoting Will G.
Le yes, Tiny Tim.
The Samoa's have been a territory of the PCU since the beginning, unless...
CONGRATULATIONS! You are now at war with the PCU and the EC.

No, they've been a sovereign territory of the SC since mid January. Nick never said anything against it, and he took no action toward it, so I took the islands. Look yourself, it's in one of the older ICFs. Just saying "oh derr.. Samoa and Haweeh ar mah turitoryz" means nothing. Just because he claimed it, doesn't mean that he has them. I could claim Iwo Jima, but not have it until it was invaded, something Nick didn't do. /beaten

Oh yeah, and my reaction when you said that:
http://myfacewhen.com/42/
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| July 11, 2011, 8:36 pm
I lol'd.

Fo shizzle.

Security and Strategy Corporation (SSC) is finally ready for business, stats will be updated today or tomorrow.
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| July 11, 2011, 8:36 pm
Quoting John Dawn
I lol'd.

Fo shizzle.

Security and Strategy Corporation (SSC) is finally ready for business, stats will be updated today or tomorrow.

The Eastern Confederation wishes to have an SSC office (base) in out nation, care to accept this offer?

FM me about a "job."

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| July 11, 2011, 8:40 pm
Quoting John Dawn
I lol'd.

Fo shizzle.

Security and Strategy Corporation (SSC) is finally ready for business, stats will be updated today or tomorrow.

I would love A SSC base in angola!
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| July 11, 2011, 9:22 pm
Quoting luke peterson
I would love A SSC base in angola!

Sounds good, I'll pull up a map and find a couple places and then see if they are available. http://www.flickr.com/photos/dawn_customs/
There is a link to my Flickr if you would like to shoot me a message.

Quoting Will G.
The Eastern Confederation wishes to have an SSC office (base) in out nation, care to accept this offer?

FM me about a "job."
Affirmative for both.
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| July 11, 2011, 9:24 pm
As time progresses, our needs for a more domminant fighter grows. Our current "legacy fighter" is but a mere generation 4 fighter and stands little chance against other stealthier fighters such as the SPARV. So BAE is again being tasked with the job of redisgning the F-302 to the F-303. We plan on basing our fighter off of the PAK FA with a possible J-20 or F-22 underside.

In other news, tank designing has hit some major road bumps. Currently the project is one of many that have the utmost devotion from our design teams.
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| July 11, 2011, 9:47 pm
I advise the nation of Brazil to vacate American Samoa, a territory of the Union. In my defense, I literally did not know I owned Guam and Samoa. But now that I do, GTFO.
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| July 11, 2011, 10:51 pm
Quoting Nick Shelton
I advise the nation of Brazil to vacate American Samoa, a territory of the Union. In my defense, I literally did not know I owned Guam and Samoa. But now that I do, GTFO.

You DO know there are two nations called Samoa, right? Samoa and American Samoa.

You DON'T own Guam or Samoa. That's why they aren't marked as yours. They're up for the taking, so get boots on 'em then they're yours. Oh and

U. MAD.
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| July 11, 2011, 11:23 pm
I believe this suits the situation quite well...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1u-I0D9ReqI

As stated before, MY BOOTS ARE ON BOTH GUAM AND AMERICAN SAMOA, therefore I control them, the PCU may do what they will with them.
If it is a war you want, then it is a war you shall lose.

Oh and, Tiny Tim, I believe it goes more like, "U MAD?"
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| July 11, 2011, 11:44 pm
Quoting Nick Shelton


Read below.

Quoting Will G. American Samoa. There are TWO Samoas. You DO know that? Also, read this:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/52840060@N08/5928515219

Yea, I invaded Samoa back in December, and I'm sure as he|| my planes would've intercepted your transports.
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| July 11, 2011, 11:53 pm
Oops. Sorry about the above misunderstanding, I wasn't in a good state-of-mind at the time of its writing.
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| July 12, 2011, 12:02 am
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China lols at this commotion in the Pacific. We're rooting for the Union here, as usual. Also of note are the Imperial Fleets receiving there new battleships and carriers. They're currently sailing around the Yellow Sea, partying hard and looking out for pesky intruders.

Also, three days with no CR as promised. Andrew, pull it together!

Or more likely: Participants, get your shortened orders in!
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| July 12, 2011, 12:11 am
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Quoting Awesome-o-saurus The Not-So-Great
They're currently sailing around the Yellow Sea, partying hard and looking out for pesky intruders.

Just keep looking over your shoulder and remember who's there...staring back at you from across the sea.
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| July 12, 2011, 1:56 am
Quoting Ultramarine .
Just keep looking over your shoulder and remember who's there...staring back at you from across the sea.

Nick?
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| July 12, 2011, 2:06 am
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Quoting Ultramarine .
Just keep looking over your shoulder and remember who's there...staring back at you from across the sea.


Quoting John Dawn
Nick?


trollface.jpg

I remember who is out there all right. I'm watching too.
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| July 12, 2011, 2:22 am
Quoting Awesome-o-saurus The Not-So-Great

A fine point. Attacking me would be pointless, for anyone. Except maybe Russia...

Also, do you have a Flickr?


Nope. As ive said before my computer has got a weird security program that prevents me from entering sites like Flickr...>.<



Quoting C A
As the new Monarch of Persia I'm interested in begin relations with the countries in the area and trade relations with anybody willing.


The S'pore govt would not mind starting diplomatic talks with you and we're willing to sell off our old hardware too...
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| July 12, 2011, 3:22 am
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Quoting TheSpectre 117

Nope. As ive said before my computer has got a weird security program that prevents me from entering sites like Flickr...>.<


Alas... What about email?
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| July 12, 2011, 3:42 am
Hey guys... I'm in hospital right now, waiting to be operated on. I've snapped my arm. Just thought I'd let y'all know.
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| July 12, 2011, 4:29 am
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Quoting Danny Morgan
Hey guys... I'm in hospital right now, waiting to be operated on. I've snapped my arm. Just thought I'd let y'all know.


WOH. Should I speak for you if you're attacked or something?
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| July 12, 2011, 4:37 am
Quoting Awesome-o-saurus The Not-So-Great

WOH. Should I speak for you if you're attacked or something?

Yeah, thanks, I trust you with my forces.

And I kinda hoped no one would attack me while I'm high on morphine and unconscious having my arm cut open and metal plates attached... But eh, who knows what some people are capable of
>.>
/shames potential enemies into postponing any attacks planned against me.
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| July 12, 2011, 5:22 am
Quoting Danny Morgan
Hey guys... I'm in hospital right now, waiting to be operated on. I've snapped my arm. Just thought I'd let y'all know.

Sounds unpleasant. What did you do to it?
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| July 12, 2011, 7:45 am
Quoting Areetsa C
Sounds unpleasant. What did you do to it?

Went into my loft bed (bunk bed without the lower bunk) to get a book I'd been reading, and when I climbed back to the ladder, my foot got tangled in the duvet and I dropped facing down, landed on a mattress on the floor after a 6 foot drop, but under the covers of that mattress was a hard object, I think a glass bottle, and my left forearm (the ulna to be exact) snapped clean in half, and shifted, so there was a lump in my arm where the bone was poking.

Yes, I might have over-detailed that a bit, but I'm in a hospital ward with my iPad and nothing better to do...


Quoting Evan Melick
Omg dude anesthesia is the best thing ever. Just sayin'. :3

Feel better though, and g'luck!

Thanks man :)
They put on a temporary cast for the night, and I got to breathe this gas stuff that felt amazing @.@
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| July 12, 2011, 8:22 am
Quoting Awesome-o-saurus The Not-So-Great
Quoting TheSpectre 117

Nope. As ive said before my computer has got a weird security program that prevents me from entering sites like Flickr...>.<


Alas... What about email?


Yup: backstabber117@gmail.com
Yours?
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| July 12, 2011, 8:27 am
Quoting Danny Morgan
Went into my loft bed (bunk bed without the lower bunk) to get a book I'd been reading, and when I climbed back to the ladder, my foot got tangled in the duvet and I dropped facing down, landed on a mattress on the floor after a 6 foot drop, but under the covers of that mattress was a hard object, I think a glass bottle, and my left forearm (the ulna to be exact) snapped clean in half, and shifted, so there was a lump in my arm where the bone was poking.

Yes, I might have over-detailed that a bit, but I'm in a hospital ward with my iPad and nothing better to do...

Apparently bunks are notorious for that sort of thing.
Methinks you're lucky you didn't hit your head on something.

Quoting Danny Morgan
They put on a temporary cast for the night, and I got to breathe this gas stuff that felt amazing @.@

Modern medicine, breeding future druggies one dose of happy-juice at a time.

Quoting TheSpectre 117
Yup: backstabber117@gmail.com

Oh yes, jolly subtle. You must be so pleased with yourself at having reached such depths of wit.
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| July 12, 2011, 8:40 am
Quoting Areetsa C
Modern medicine, breeding future druggies one dose of happy-juice at a time.

Well it was either that or morphine...
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| July 12, 2011, 8:59 am
Quoting Areetsa C
Modern medicine, breeding future druggies one dose of happy-juice at a time.

Quoting TheSpectre 117
Yup: backstabber117@gmail.com

Oh yes, jolly subtle. You must be so pleased with yourself at having reached such depths of wit.


Hey waddya expect? I created that account years ago. :P



Quoting Danny Morgan
Hey guys... I'm in hospital right now, waiting to be operated on. I've snapped my arm. Just thought I'd let y'all know.


Ouch...get well soon :)

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| July 12, 2011, 9:12 am
Thanks for the verbal support guys, it takes my mind off the pain a bit. Now I'll stop spamming the ICF, feel free to delete my comments.
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| July 12, 2011, 9:24 am
*Is now a combat mod* >.> <.< >.>
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| July 12, 2011, 10:22 am
Quoting John Moffatt
*Is now a combat mod* >.> <.< >.>

What is your Flickr account?
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| July 12, 2011, 11:47 am
Combat Report Part 2/3

Europe:
-UNC submarines began to strike high-value Spanish targets while they were still in port, killing about 6 ships of various classes, without taking any losses.
-The Greek Red Fleet launched a large missile first strike against Spanish military, targeting high value targets. A large attack on the Son San Juan airbase occurred, neutralizing 12 F-18s stationed there. Also targeted were naval vessels stationed in docks, and 12 ships of various classes were destroyed in port.
- 37 French F35s, 78 French F2Cs, and 10 Brazilian IF15s launched a massive air raid on Zaragoza AFB, destroying the ATC tower and temporarily neutralizing the facility. As hangers were also targeted, 3 F-44s, 22 Eurofighter Typhoons, and 8 F-18s were destroyed on the ground. The Spaniards did, however, put up a fierce defensive screen over the base, scrambling 11 F-44s before the bombing commenced, and were able to claim 19 aerial victories on 6 F-35s, 8 F2Cs, and 5 IF-15s before falling to superior numbers.
-36 Greek Sparvs, along with 48 F-35s began a large air offensive after the initial missile first strike and targeted airbases within Spain. Destroying 27 F-18s, 13 F-44s, and 13 Eurofighter Typhoons.
-9,000 Greek troops attempted a landing on the islands of Son San Juan and Palma islands, and captured each island from the Spanish after several hour of fighting each. The Greek expeditionary force lost about 93 soldiers, 4 F-35s, 7 AH-64, 3 LAV-25s, 23 Humvees of various types, and a single M6A1 Jackson MBT. They were able to kill 104 Spanish troops (capturing about 1,000), and destroyed 6 Eurocopter Tigers, 5 Eurocopter Super Pumas, 31 Uro Vamtacs, and 12 BMR-M1s.


Space (the final frontier):
-Greece shot down 1 Egyptian communications satellite (he can't afford to have anything larger), and 1 Chinese satellite.

Part 3/3 will be out this evening.
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| July 12, 2011, 12:02 pm
Quoting -> avalella
Combat Report Part 2/3

- 37 French F35s, 78 French F2Cs, and 10 Brazilian IF15s launched a massive air raid on Zaragoza AFB, destroying the ATC tower and temporarily neutralizing the facility. As hangers were also targeted, 3 F-44s, 22 Eurofighter Typhoons, and 8 F-18s were destroyed on the ground. The Spaniards did, however, put up a fierce defensive screen over the base, scrambling 11 F-44s before the bombing commenced, and were able to claim 19 aerial victories on 6 F-35s, 8 F2Cs, and 5 IF-15s before falling to superior numbers.

Change that to French IF-15s, because they were bought from me, making them French.
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| July 12, 2011, 12:15 pm
Hmmmm, Didn't see that one coming, but it should be good for business.
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| July 12, 2011, 12:52 pm
"These attacks, all unjustified, show the true nature of these so called "peace-loving" European nations. They believe they can prance around the world and stick their noses into other nations' business, well my fellow Confederates, and Axis people, they are making a mistake, a mistake that warrants the swift and utter destruction of the "wannabe imperialist" invaders under the guise of democracy! The Eastern Confederation will support its ally in Spain until either one of two goals is achieved, the European Coalition is kept permanently away from Spain, or they are defeated in a long, bloody and expensive war."

(To Arms in Fades in and President exits)
...'Till the Lord's work is completed,
'Till the Euros are defeated,
To Arms! To Arms! To Arms! In España!

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| July 12, 2011, 1:51 pm
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Quoting Danny Morgan
Hey guys... I'm in hospital right now, waiting to be operated on. I've snapped my arm. Just thought I'd let y'all know.

Good Heavens! Get better soon, buddy!

/Puts off invasion of IU...
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| July 12, 2011, 1:57 pm
The Caucasus Republic would like get better relations with Russia and the newly formed nation of Persia.

We also have cancelled all military operations, as we want to be a peaceful country.
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| July 12, 2011, 2:02 pm
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Let it not be said that China never supported a friend in need. The Koaxiang Empire stands with the Kingdom of Spain and it's Iberian Union against these democratic invaders, and hereby declares war upon the UNC, France, and the Byzantine Federation. Brazil will be dealt with privately (turns out they weren't in the attack despite Andrew's posting).

Furthermore, to defend our Egyptian friends, the airlifting of some 20,000 troops and their materials to Egyptian bases in America has begun.

All forces are mobilizing across China, and conscription orders are ready to be sent. Factories are going into overdrive, dormant ones are being brought online.

Quoting Evan Melick


Casus belli, please.
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| July 12, 2011, 3:07 pm
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Quoting Evan Melick
Union of Nordic Countries. And actually, it's the "Byzantine Federation".

Uhm...for the CB. Can't really remember. It was good though, I promise you that.


Right, thanks. Looks like I mistook them for France. France is gonna burn too.

Forgot your CB, eh? Unprovoked attacks are fair enough, good propaganda for the people.
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| July 12, 2011, 3:33 pm
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Quoting Evan Melick
The people of Byzantium have been greatly wronged.


And suddenly, everything made sense: The Byzantines had no sense of humor! They must be dealt with...

BYZANTIUM, PREPARE FOR GLORY.
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| July 12, 2011, 3:52 pm
Today, in the Union...

The Union Government condemns the European nations of Scandinavia, Byzantines, and the French. An attack on Spain, if based on actual reasons, would be fine. However, an attack based on something that was barely even related to this group's activities besides using the members of it, is extremely witless. For these reasons, the Union Government expresses our full support to the Iberian Union, and they can expect support within the next week.

Some propaganda too: French tanks only have ten gears, nine for reverse, and one for forward, in case of an attack from the rear.
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| July 12, 2011, 4:04 pm
We will be declaring war on Spain and then China will declare war on us, excetra.
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| July 12, 2011, 4:22 pm
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The Union State shall attempt to remain neutral in this conflict unless provoked to take action due to certain criteria being met. However, to increase our alertness in case of attack, all active personnel have been mobilized to emergency positions with reserves presently on stand-by. These rather extreme precautions are in order due to many of the current belligerents sharing borders with the Union State and we cannot allow for our sovereignty to be compromised.

In other news, the AIEV was publicly released yesterday with live demonstrations attracting a greater bit of the defense media. A test vehicles was also fired at by a AMBT Mk.IV and all three test subjects within the vehicle would have been able to survive the hit if they were actual people. We hope this will encourage future crews that they're in good hands. Production has been ramped up significantly so we can provide more of these support vehicles to active outfits within a span of time shorter than expected.
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| July 12, 2011, 4:40 pm
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Quoting Evan Melick
Bring it boi.


Be afraid! The Thousand Nations of the Chinese Empire descend upon you! Our missiles with blot out the sun!

Quoting henry wang
Note, if the mod doesn't include my orders because they were bad, then we will be declaring war on Spain and then China will declare war on us, excetra.


Welcome to the fight. Your head would look good on the end of a pike.
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| July 12, 2011, 4:41 pm
In the SC...

The Southern government has declared that all warships troop ships coming from the EC, PCU, IDU or China will be banned from travel through the Panama Canal and security will be stepped up in the Canal Zone.

Southern troops have been mobilized and C-130s have begun flying troops onto Okinawa and Samoa. The Pacific Air Command has begun flying fighters onto our island bases.
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| July 12, 2011, 4:46 pm
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Quoting Evan Melick
Then we'll fight in the shade.

You have to reach us first, Mr. East Asia.


I'll carry my battle standards into the heart of Europa if I have to.


Quoting Tim Casey
In the SC...

The Southern government has declared that all warships troop ships coming from the EC, PCU, IDU or China will be banned from travel through the Panama Canal and security will be stepped up in the Canal Zone.


So you're not letting us through... What about them?
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| July 12, 2011, 4:47 pm
So much for European neutrality you hypocrites. I knew this was going to happen. Anyway, let's play your little game, shall we?
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| July 12, 2011, 4:50 pm
Quoting Awesome-o-saurus The Not-So-Great

So you're not letting us through... What about them?

<.<
It shall be decided in time...
>.>
<.<
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| July 12, 2011, 4:57 pm
What is the IDU? Is it supposed to be Indo Union, because my usual acronym is IU. Just interested if Brikkr is taking needless precautions against me or not.
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| July 12, 2011, 4:59 pm
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Quoting Tim Casey
<.<
It shall be decided in time...
>.>
<.<


So much for your neutrality then. Give me a good reason I should respect that if you're going to pull pre-Pearl Harbor America on us Axis?
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| July 12, 2011, 5:00 pm
And thus begins the Third World War, another long and bloody chapter in human history...
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| July 12, 2011, 5:00 pm
Quoting Awesome-o-saurus The Not-So-Great

So much for your neutrality then. Give me a good reason I should respect that if you're going to pull pre-Pearl Harbor America on us Axis?

Eh, I am Pre-Pearl Harbor America. I'm not letting suspected enemies near me, but I won't attack unless I'm attacked.
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| July 12, 2011, 5:11 pm
Are combat mods allowed to make random acts of God or natural disasters?
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| July 12, 2011, 6:37 pm
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Quoting John Moffatt
Are combat mods allowed to make random acts of God or natural disasters?

That's a negative, Ghost Rider.

Actually, that's been a rule for some time now.
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| July 12, 2011, 6:42 pm
Quoting Tim Casey
Eh, I am Pre-Pearl Harbor America. I'm not letting suspected enemies near me, but I won't attack unless I'm attacked.

On the other hand, you don't have the military strength to back that up when next the Axis wants to go through your little canal, and unless you ban entry to the Allies as well, Awe'll probably bomb it out of existance so the Allies can't use it.


In other news: Greece added to the Great Big List of acceptable OVB targets. Not that someone's absence from the List has ever stopped the OVB from taking matters into their own hands, and not that they've paid any attention to what Central has to say as of late.
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| July 12, 2011, 6:45 pm
Quoting Evan Melick
Ahem. "Byzantium". Not Greece.

CR said Greece, Greece is getting the sabotage.

Right after the OVB finishes whatever it's doing currently. Something to do with Belgium, I think it was.
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| July 12, 2011, 7:46 pm
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Quoting Ham N' Biscuits
So much for European neutrality you hypocrites. I knew this was going to happen. Anyway, let's play your little game, shall we?


A while back you were complaining that "being a Euro is so boring" and I responded by saying something along the lines of, "fine, you can have your fun and the rest of us will have our own fun." Since then I have not considered Europe "neutral" rather, waiting to pounce. You play with fire, you get burned.
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| July 12, 2011, 7:50 pm
Quoting Matt Hacker

A while back you were complaining that "being a Euro is so boring" and I responded by saying something along the lines of, "fine, you can have your fun and the rest of us will have our won fun." Since then I have not considered Europe "neutral" rather, waiting to pounce. You play with fire, you get burned.

I think the only reason Europe decided to Cliffe-attack Ham is because they are all greedy and/or mad that Ham "breaks" neutrality by openly supporting the Axis, the same way most of Europe passively supports the Allies.
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| July 12, 2011, 8:00 pm
I troll around, go on with my business, respect your wishes not to get involved in America, repeatedly deny sending troops over to help Nick out, and this is what I get? A 4 nation gang bang?

You know what else burns? Wood.I do think you're the ones playing with fire here.
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| July 12, 2011, 8:02 pm
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I think we should all focus on the fact that the Euros were unhappy about external (read: beyond the group) affairs, didn't like Ham doing what they did except for the other side (doesn't apply to Byzantium), and now have started World War Three. Good work.

Quoting Areetsa C
On the other hand, you don't have the military strength to back that up when next the Axis wants to go through your little canal, and unless you ban entry to the Allies as well, Awe'll probably bomb it out of existance so the Allies can't use it.


He's right, Brikkr/Tim. I don't like it when nations claim neutrality and then aren't neutral about it.
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| July 12, 2011, 8:46 pm
Quoting Awesome-o-saurus The Not-So-Great
I think we should all focus on the fact that the Euros were unhappy about external (read: beyond the group) affairs, didn't like Ham doing what they did except for the other side (doesn't apply to Byzantium), and now have started World War Three. Good work.

I had been wanting to do this since the first contact war, so scratch me off the list. Also thank you very much, we are very happy that we ended the sitskreig.

Well back home public opinion about the war is very high. People believe that we the democratic nations of the world are taking a stand against dictatorships and autocracies. Currently all reservists and territorial troops are being called up, and war time production is beginning. Much of our large economy will remain in the production of consumer goods, but a large minority of it will be devoted to military production.

Today King William made a speech calling for people to rise up against tyranny and defend the Commonwealth against the evils of the rest of the world. He ended with this, "I have nothing to offer but blood, toil, tears and sweat. We have before us an ordeal of the most grievous kind. We have before us many, many long months of struggle and of suffering. You ask, what is our aim? I can answer in one word: Victory. Victory at all costs — Victory in spite of all terror — Victory, however long and hard the road may be, for without victory there is no survival."

Currently troops in England and other colonies are being redeployed to hotspots around the world.
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| July 12, 2011, 9:04 pm
AHOHOHOHOHO! The whole Confederation Armada laughs at Brazil barring our warships from the Panama canal, because we have no use of it!
As for Awe and Nick, yeah, it'll probably get the canal, and your nation for that matter, bombed into oblivion.

In the the extremely enraged Eastern Confederation...
The second batch of New Orleans-Class subs, consisting of four regular units, and four variants, were released into the high seas today.
Two of the variants are technically still receiving upgrades of four Dry-Deck Shelters, each of which is capable of carrying 20 commandos, and should be finished tomorrow.
The other two subs are completely classified for Axis members only.

EDIT:
The EC also gears up its economy on war production mode, however, since we were already on heightened production, due to the scene in N. America, the process of gearing the economy up for this should not take too long.
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| July 12, 2011, 9:20 pm
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Quoting Awesome-o-saurus The Not-So-Great
I think we should all focus on the fact that the Euros were unhappy about external (read: beyond the group) affairs, didn't like Ham doing what they did except for the other side (doesn't apply to Byzantium), and now have started World War Three. Good work.


Ham was right about two things:
1) Being in neutral Europe was boring so I don't see why all of a sudden there is action and he is whining about it. It is what he wanted, after all.
2) As Ham himself pointed out "[He's] a nuisance to peace and neutrality in your eyes and you know it." In fact, all of Europe has felt that way and for once we decided to be proactive.

Just pointing out that the excessive trolling was the final straw, but our minds were for this 90% already even before that annoying night. Just made the prospects a little sweeter.

Ironically Ham, you have managed to pull of all of Europe closer together, so I shouldn't be complaining :P
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| July 12, 2011, 9:58 pm
Quoting Matt Hacker

Ham was right about two things:
1) Being in neutral Europe was boring so I don't see why all of a sudden there is action and he is whining about it. It is what he wanted, after all.
2) As Ham himself pointed out "[He's] a nuisance to peace and neutrality in your eyes and you know it." In fact, all of Europe has felt that way and for once we decided to be proactive.

Just pointing out that the excessive trolling was the final straw, but our minds were for this 90% already even before that annoying night. Just made the prospects a little sweeter.

Ironically Ham, you have managed to pull of all of Europe closer together, so I shouldn't be complaining :P

http://images.mylot.com/userImages/images/postphotos/1899108.jpg

I clearly posted more trolling images than Ham did, surely that warrants some sort of retaliation from Europe.






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| July 12, 2011, 10:14 pm
The last time Spain was a dictatorship was 1976, Henry. Get your facts straight.

@ Matt: So wait, let me get this straight. First you say it's all because I said I wanted some fun. Now it's because I posted a single comic? Me gusta.
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| July 12, 2011, 10:17 pm
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Quoting Will G.
http://images.mylot.com/userImages/images/postphotos/1899108.jpg

I clearly posted more trolling images than Ham did, surely that warrants some sort of retaliation from Europe.


Well, fortunately, since you are coming to Europe for the little party we can get "retaliation". Of course, its not like we wanted to fight, but any way the wind blows, I suppose. But I stress that the trolling was only the final piece, and frankly Will, the reason your trolling wasn't so bad is because it took place out of the group.

Quoting Ham N' Biscuits
Matt: So wait, let me get this straight. First you say it's all because I said I wanted some fun. Now it's because I posted a single comic? Me gusta.


Oh I'm glad that we both agree this will be a most jolly experience! I am equally glad that we had all striven so hard to have some fun, and it finally pays off!
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| July 12, 2011, 10:19 pm
May the best alliance win.
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| July 12, 2011, 10:26 pm
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Today, in the USNA...

Savior III was launched quite ahead of schedule in the face of Chinese threats to annihilate the Europeans. It will be parked someplace where it can keep Europe safe. Also, China is warned to either keep their soldiers home or loose them mid-Pacific, period. I couldn't care less if they're heading for 'Egyptian' land. They don't get in, as a breech of PCU airspace is a breech of the treaty. Please stay home, thank you.

In other news, the President is set to make an address on international goings-on shortly.

90 more M90s have taken to the field since Saturday. 15 more F-40s, 5 more A/B-3s, and 10 more M80s.

Integration of Honduras and El Salvador have finished all their haggling about the governments and selling it to their civilians. Honduras only on the condition that they remain largely autonomous. 10 more F-1s for them have taken to the air, with more trained aircrews coming.

Quoting Will G.
The second batch of New Orleans-Class subs, consisting of four regular units, and four variants, were released into the high seas today.

I see you've received your Cliffe production upgrade upon your arrival into the Axis? Over-production much?
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| July 12, 2011, 11:04 pm
Quoting Ultramarine .
I see you've received your Cliffe production upgrade upon your arrival into the Axis? Over-production much?

Eight subs out of all of my shipyards in one month? I say that sounds about right with people making Super-carriers in 2-3...

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| July 12, 2011, 11:14 pm
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Quoting Will G.
Eight subs out of all of my shipyards in one month? I say that sounds about right with people making Super-carriers in 2-3...

It's only 25% done, and it's been under construction since your subs started. It's one ship. I also like how magically Awe's ships appeared too.
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| July 12, 2011, 11:22 pm
Quoting Ultramarine .
It's only 25% done, and it's been under construction since your subs started. It's one ship. I also like how magically Awe's ships appeared too.

I was not remarking upon any of your ships. I thought it was decided upon that the time for a Carrier to be built was 2-3 months.

Also, Axis High Command delivers this message:
"Suck a big one!"
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| July 12, 2011, 11:31 pm
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Quoting Will G.
I was not remarking upon any of your ships. I thought it was decided upon that the time for a Carrier to be built was 2-3 months.

Also, Axis High Command delivers this message:
"Suck a big one!"


1) 6 weeks for a light carrier, 7 for Supercarriers
2) That was uncalled for, seriously.
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| July 12, 2011, 11:37 pm
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Quoting Will G.
Also, Axis High Command delivers this message:
"Suck a big one!"

Done pandering to your new masters? Feel better now?
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| July 12, 2011, 11:40 pm
Quoting Matt Hacker

1) 6 weeks for a light carrier, 7 for Supercarriers
2) That was uncalled for, seriously.

So four for a sub isn't far fetched?

I only report what the high-command says, and it's not my fault it got through... I can remove it.
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| July 12, 2011, 11:41 pm
Quoting Evan Melick
Nuclear attack subs: 4 weeks. Boomers, 5 weeks. The time is fine, but to build 8 fully functional nuclear attack subs at the same time, you probably used about all of your naval building capacity.

There'll be a naval construction timetable up in the Admin Thread momentarily.

Why thank you, this will be a great help.

I'm not sure what my full capacity would be, with Mississippi, Florida, Louisiana, Georgia and all those states.
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| July 12, 2011, 11:52 pm
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Quoting Ultramarine .
Savior III was launched quite ahead of schedule in the face of Chinese threats to annihilate the Europeans. It will be parked someplace where it can keep Europe safe. Also, China is warned to either keep their soldiers home or loose them mid-Pacific, period. I couldn't care less if they're heading for 'Egyptian' land. They don't get in, as a breech of PCU airspace is a breech of the treaty. Please stay home, thank you.


Do you really believe I'm so sto opid as to think your attack on the Pacific Union isn't coming next? I'm landing my men in Egyptian bases, which sovereign territory of Egypt. It is not owned, nor claimed, by the Pacific Union, and therefore is in violation of nothing. If you have a problem with this, go start another war.

Quoting Ultramarine .
It's only 25% done, and it's been under construction since your subs started. It's one ship. I also like how magically Awe's ships appeared too.


Maybe if you paid attention to details that don't concern you for once, you'd know that I've been working on my ships since May.
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| July 13, 2011, 12:55 am
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Quoting Awesome-o-saurus The Not-So-Great
I'm landing my men in Egyptian bases, which sovereign territory of Egypt. It is not owned, nor claimed, by the Pacific Union, and therefore is in violation of nothing. If you have a problem with this, go start another war.

As soon as those men step off those Egyptian bases, you're in violation of the treaty. In fact, as soon as they penetrate PCU airspace, you're in violation, did you consider that? Do you think me daft enough to think you'll just have your men sit around and guard Egyptian bases?
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| July 13, 2011, 1:01 am
Quoting Ultramarine .
As soon as those men step off those Egyptian bases, you're in violation of the treaty. In fact, as soon as they penetrate PCU airspace, you're in violation, did you consider that? Do you think me daft enough to think you'll just have your men sit around and guard Egyptian bases?

Yes.
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| July 13, 2011, 1:06 am
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Quoting Ultramarine .
As soon as those men step off those Egyptian bases, you're in violation of the treaty. In fact, as soon as they penetrate PCU airspace, you're in violation, did you consider that? Do you think me daft enough to think you'll just have your men sit around and guard Egyptian bases?


/facepalm
/facedesk
/facemeatgrinder

The Egyptian bases are Egyptian land. I am not landing in the Pacific Union. I am landing in what is in all legal practice, Egypt. I am not in Pacific Union airspace. I am approaching from the sea, to bases right on the sea. I am never entering Pacific Union airspace. I am going to have my men sit tight, until you attack, or until such an amount of time passes that the threat of an attack from you is gone.

What can I do with a few thousand men on the coast? Do you really think I'm going to make a run at your border? What would I have to gain from that?
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| July 13, 2011, 1:07 am
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Quoting Awesome-o-saurus The Not-So-Great
The Egyptian bases are Egyptian land. I am not landing in the Pacific Union. I am landing in what is in all legal practice, Egypt. I am not in Pacific Union airspace. I am approaching from the sea, to bases right on the sea. I am never entering Pacific Union airspace. I am going to have my men sit tight, until you attack, or until such an amount of time passes that the threat of an attack from you is gone.

What can I do with a few thousand men on the coast? Do you really think I'm going to make a run at your border? What would I have to gain from that?

1) You are penetrating PCU airspace.
2) The USNA does not recognize Egyptian land in the PCU as it is a direct violation of the treaty.

Either of which breaks the treaty, does it not. Stand down, I'm in a different league than I once was, and I must say I'm rather enjoying it.
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| July 13, 2011, 1:13 am
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Quoting Ultramarine .
1) You are penetrating PCU airspace.
2) The USNA does not recognize Egyptian land in the PCU as it is a direct violation of the treaty.

Either of which breaks the treaty, does it not. Stand down, I'm in a different league than I once was, and I must say I'm rather enjoying it.


1. Nope.avi
2. The bases were sold before the treaty. China does not recognize USNA either (rather still the Western Republic), but that doesn't change the fact you're still there.

I shan't stand down. I am doing something perfectly legal. If you want admin intervention (something you seem to like), we can take it there.

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| July 13, 2011, 1:17 am
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Quoting Awesome-o-saurus The Not-So-Great
I shan't stand down. I am doing something perfectly legal. If you want admin intervention (something you seem to like), we can take it there.


Don't worry, he's not getting it.
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| July 13, 2011, 1:21 am
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Quoting Evan Melick
Thee fact is the treaty allowed the loophole of the IDU bases in the PCU. An alliance between Nick and Awe was never banned, so he's still allowed to defend Nick's land and space during wartime. But since Awe/Nick is not at war with any of his direct neighbors at the moment, for now, Chinese troops are limited to IDU bases.


Which is precisely what I've been saying the whole time... They're going to sit on those bases until I think it's safe to call them home. I can't launch a war on Ultra on another continent without support, can I?
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| July 13, 2011, 1:21 am
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Quoting Will G.
"These attacks, all unjustified, show the true nature of these so called "peace-loving" European nations. They believe they can prance around the world and stick their noses into other nations' business, well my fellow Confederates, and Axis people, they are making a mistake, a mistake that warrants the swift and utter destruction of the "wannabe imperialist" invaders under the guise of democracy! The Eastern Confederation will support its ally in Spain until either one of two goals is achieved, the European Coalition is kept permanently away from Spain, or they are defeated in a long, bloody and expensive war."

(To Arms in Fades in and President exits)
...'Till the Lord's work is completed,
'Till the Euros are defeated,
To Arms! To Arms! To Arms! In España!



I know that y'all in the Axis have a great sense of humor... enjoy.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IQMYlAmmPls

No disrespect intended. Enjoy my horrid Texan accent.
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| July 13, 2011, 1:40 am
Quoting Matt Hacker


I know that y'all in the Axis have a great sense of humor... enjoy.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IQMYlAmmPls

No disrespect intended. Enjoy my horrid Texan accent.

We've been trolled.

Yet I find it hilarious.
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| July 13, 2011, 1:54 am
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Quoting Matt Hacker


I know that y'all in the Axis have a great sense of humor... enjoy.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IQMYlAmmPls

No disrespect intended. Enjoy my horrid Texan accent.


Hacker, I love you for this.

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| July 13, 2011, 2:05 am
Quoting Matt Hacker


I know that y'all in the Axis have a great sense of humor... enjoy.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IQMYlAmmPls

No disrespect intended. Enjoy my horrid Texan accent.


Hit Gober's accent on the spot, I'd say. Well done, it's good to see you're not all heartless snotzees.

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| July 13, 2011, 2:07 am
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Quoting Awesome-o-saurus The Not-So-Great

Hacker, I love you for this.

Speaking of trolling, Awe, I found your theme song.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OYws8biwOYc

(not mine)
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| July 13, 2011, 2:18 am
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Quoting Tom Neumo
Speaking of trolling, Awe, I found your theme song.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OYws8biwOYc

(not mine)


It's me! I really do have the swagger of a cripple, my knees always hurt...

<.<

>.>

China hereby declares this song is it's secret leader.
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| July 13, 2011, 2:22 am
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Quoting Tom Neumo
Speaking of trolling, Awe, I found your theme song.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OYws8biwOYc

(not mine)

Stolen for FB. Cheers, sir.
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| July 13, 2011, 2:23 am
Quoting Tom Neumo
Speaking of trolling, Awe, I found your theme song.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OYws8biwOYc

(not mine)


I take that as offensive to my culture. That song is literally verboten in these parts after months of non-stop quoting.
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| July 13, 2011, 2:29 am
http://www.flickr.com/photos/40712407@N06/5933030078/
MAF-4s Inbound.

The first one rolled off the assembly line at 1:45 PM Central Standard Time on July 13th, 2037.
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| July 13, 2011, 2:37 am
With all this hullabaloo going on here the S'pore goverment has decided to start construction on fallout bunkers around the country for fear of a nuclear war...
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| July 13, 2011, 10:01 am
Quoting TheSpectre 117
With all this hullabaloo going on here the S'pore goverment has decided to start construction on fallout bunkers around the country for fear of a nuclear war...

Not necessary because nuclear weapons are illegal in this game.
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| July 13, 2011, 10:24 am
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Today, in the USNA...

"There is a fundamental truth to our nature...man must explore."
"Buy why, some say, the moon? Why choose this as our goal? And they may as well ask why climb the highest mountain?"

You may have guessed it. CASA/NASA have teamed up and are readying a mission to space, the first in 20 years. I don't know yet if it will be the moon, could be, but we'll see. Rocket designs, delivery vehicles, and all that are undergoing evaluation at the moment.

Citizens all over have reported seeing "UFOs" flying about the Area 51 area. It has nothing to do with the USNA's strategic bomber initiative. At all. Actually, check that, it does have everything to do with it. It looks everything like the B-2, except only about 90% the size. It can exceed Mach 1.5, but only for short hops. It is, however, capable of altitudes of about 70k', making it very difficult to engage. 4 have so far taken to the skies. I'll have better pictures up tomorrow, for those that have already seen them.

Still more stuff rolls off the lines. With production numbers like this, the M90 order has been doubled to 1,000. 30 more have come off the lines. All that good stuff.

Quoting Matt Hacker
I know that y'all in the Axis have a great sense of humor... enjoy.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IQMYlAmmPls

No disrespect intended. Enjoy my horrid Texan accent.

LOL, I find the accent rather good, actually. Awesome work!
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| July 13, 2011, 11:08 am
Combat Report 3/3
-UNC submarines struck high-value Spanish targets while they were still in port, killing about 6 ships of various classes, without taking any losses, due to their long engagement distances.
-British UAVs loitered along the Spanish coast, attracting the attention of Spanish SAM sites, which upon going online and preparing to engage, were quickly dispatched by 75 anti-radiation cruise missiles. 25 carrier-based A-37s also attempted to engage SAM sites, however they were quickly plucked out of the sky by other SAMs and scrambled fighters, only 9 of them actually being able to do their jobs and get away, due to their age and lack of stealthy-ness. To investigate and engage this possible threat, Spanish fighters were forced to scramble and intercept the UFOs in their airspace, only to be ambushed by 25 Sparvs, which destroyed all 12 F-18s of the intercept group.
-British subs attacked Spanish ports by launching 80 ASMs at Spanish naval bases in Rota, the Azores, and El Ferrol, San Fernando, and Cartagena. These strikes were be supported with strikes done with 50 A-37s, 15 EA-37s (radar jamming), and 25 F-302s. These helped support with jamming the air defenses on ships and they themselves fired missiles as well. This air raid coasted the British 17 A-37s, and 2 F-302s, however they were able to sink 11 ships of various classes, and do moderate repairable damage to 9 more. Rapier 2 missile launchers on Gibraltar fired 20 ASMs at Rota, where the largest self-proclaimed Spanish naval base is located, and 17 ships of various classes were sunk. The missile sites on Gibraltar were struck with counter battery missile attacks several minutes later, heavily damaging large parts of the facility.
-12 F-1 Baltic Union Blackfish and 24 Sparv fighters attacked Spanish communications facilities, power plants, and any guard buildings (as designated by both satellites and troops on the ground) and blow them up. Primary targets were communications centers (including land-lines and cell-phone towers), which took heavy damage.
-24 F-1 Baltic Union blackfish, along with 48 Sparv fighters began bombarding Spanish troop formations south of the Pyrenees, killing about 300 Spaniards and confusing nearly 1,000 more. Large infrastructural damage was also done, despite the efforts of German bombers, as it was inevitable.
-French planes from the previous CR part returned to Spanish airspace to strike the Spanish Naval HQ, however called off the attack after facing a large screen of SAMs and fighter interceptor defenses. 3 F-44s were destroyed, and 7 French F2Cs were lost (the crews of 2 captured). Very little damage was done to the Spanish HQ.
-25,000 French ground troops began an attack on the Spanish border, however the attack only managed to advance 50 miles at most in some sectors, as the terrain provided heavy benefit to the utterly confused Spaniards defending their homeland. Only 378 Spanish troops were killed, in contrast to the 413 French invaders. 96 AHU-66 Osprey Drones stationed onboard the FNS Seawall and the FNS Normandy supported this invasion along with 39 F2Cs and 22 F2As. By the end of the first day of combat, 11 AHU-66s, 4 F2As, and 1 F2C were shot down, however the French aircraft were also able to engage and destroy 16 Eurofighter Typhoons (with the support of UNC Sparvs using loiter-and-intercept tactics to prevent any combat losses).
-French Foreign Legion Troops landed on the shores of Malta, taking it over within 6 hours and flew a French Flag over it. Taking about 59 casualties, they killed 21 Spanish defenders and captured 479 more. These 5,000 FFL with 1,000 Sappers put together a runway on the island and were relieved by elements of the Med. Air Force.

-25,000 French troops attempted to stage an amphibious landing executed on the strait of Gibraltar coast. The 96 AHU-66 Osprey Drones stationed onboard the FNS Seawall and the FNS Normandy supported this invasion along with 39 F2Cs and 22 F2As. Due to a large presence of F44s, and other Axis aircraft, and minimal friendly air support, only 19,000 French troops made it to shore unscathed, but once ashore were able to push inland with greater ease. 9 F2As, 32 AHU-66s, and 14 F2Cs were shot down, but not before taking out 22 F-22s and 12 F-18s.

-An extremely large bombardment of the Canary islands went underway by French air units, in preparation for a daring amphibious invasion by 20,000 troops. While the bombardment provided a significant advantage for the 20,000 African and Madagascar volunteers that tried to seize the islands, their blatant lack of training and proficiency with their equipment, and other glaring hindrances contributed to the utter failure of the invasion. After losing nearly 7,000 troops compared to the 2,000 casualties the defenders sustained, field commanders were forced to call off the attack, at least temporarily, to stop the carnage. Nearly 500 wounded volunteers were captured by the Spanish. A French Paratroop battalion did manage to land behind enemy lines, and destroyed a bridge on the Islands, a heavy blow to the Island’s defense, however after being quickly surrounded and losing 59 of their number, the paratroopers surrendered to the Spanish.

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| July 13, 2011, 1:49 pm
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Oh no, Tom, you're in on this f--- s--- stack too. I didn't want this to happen, but I don't see any alternative to war now, unless your attack here was a one-time thing. Alas, my friend, fate has different paths for us in mind.

Also, who do we sent orders to now? John Moffatt, or still Andrew?
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| July 13, 2011, 1:55 pm
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Quoting Awesome-o-saurus The Not-So-Great
Oh no, Tom, you're in on this f--- s--- stack too. I didn't want this to happen, but I don't see any alternative to war now, unless your attack here was a one-time thing. Alas, my friend, fate has different paths for us in mind.

Also, who do we sent orders to now? John Moffatt, or still Andrew?


America is John Moffat
Europe/wherever else is Andrew.

I hate to inform you, but ALL of Europe is against Ham here, and he's in it to win it (unless he bizarrely plans to backstab us).
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| July 13, 2011, 2:07 pm
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Quoting Matt Hacker

America is John Moffat
Europe/wherever else is Andrew.

I hate to inform you, but ALL of Europe is against Ham here, and he's in it to win it (unless he bizarrely plans to backstab us).


Got it, thanks.

And backstabbing? Isn't that considered a professional sport among European politics? /trollface
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| July 13, 2011, 2:20 pm
In the EC, the Dry Deck Shelters were successfully attached to the two new heavily modified New Orleans-Class submarines. The crews of these submarines are loading up and heading out to an unspecified location.
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| July 13, 2011, 2:46 pm
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Quoting Awesome-o-saurus The Not-So-Great
Oh no, Tom, you're in on this f--- s--- stack too. I didn't want this to happen, but I don't see any alternative to war now, unless your attack here was a one-time thing. Alas, my friend, fate has different paths for us in mind.


Indeed. Well then, if war must come, then let it be noble war, good sir.


oh, and also @Ham: http://alltheragefaces.com/img/faces/svg/troll-i-lied-black.svg
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| July 13, 2011, 2:47 pm
Due to the heavy losses of A-37s from SAMs, they will all get ESM jamming pods to alieve radar locks on the aircraft. Currently all aircraft lost are being replaced, and jamming pods are being added on to all aircraft.

Also @Andrew or anyone, did we sink the Spanish carrier?

Finally @ Andrew, how are A-37s old, their one of the newest attack aircraft in the group, I just made the design. I think you may be confusing mine with the A-37 Dragonfly.
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| July 13, 2011, 4:21 pm
At least I won in the Canary Islands. And held my own against anything else concerning France. Goes to show those French really don't have such a great military.

Anyway, it looks like I have quite the challenge ahead of me. Especially since I lost my entire navy due to it being at port for some bizarre reason.
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| July 13, 2011, 4:52 pm
Quoting Ham N' Biscuits
At least I won in the Canary Islands. And held my own against anything else concerning France. Goes to show those French really don't have such a great military.

Anyway, it looks like I have quite the challenge ahead of me. Especially since I lost my entire navy due to it being at port for some bizarre reason.

You didn't send any orders so the CM must assume that your ships were in port at the time of the attack. If you so foresaw this why didn't you send any orders?

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| July 13, 2011, 4:58 pm
Quoting henry wang
You didn't send any orders so the CM must assume that your ships were in port at the time of the attack. If you so foresaw this why didn't you send any orders?


I saw this coming at some time, but not now. You're going to blame this all on me? No nation would ever leave it's entire navy at port.
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| July 13, 2011, 5:03 pm
Quoting Matt Hacker


I know that y'all in the Axis have a great sense of humor... enjoy.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IQMYlAmmPls

No disrespect intended. Enjoy my horrid Texan accent.

...
Dayum
...
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| July 13, 2011, 5:45 pm
So,
I've been absent for a little while due to camp and other activities. But I've gained the info that everything has practically been polarized in the D&L world.

Soo,
I administer another group, where this sort of thing happened. Everything ground to halt, because no one in the group liked these "Superalliances" as they called them. We also thought when the super war would begin, everything would end with the group ending.

Sooo,
We all agreed to start over, and limit the number of factions per alliance. So I propose that we cut down the grand alliances fir the better of the group. And admins please support if this idea goes through.
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| July 13, 2011, 6:59 pm
Quoting Matt P
So,
I've been absent for a little while due to camp and other activities. But I've gained the info that everything has practically been polarized in the D&L world.

Soo,
I administer another group, where this sort of thing happened. Everything ground to halt, because no one in the group liked these "Superalliances" as they called them. We also thought when the super war would begin, everything would end with the group ending.

Sooo,
We all agreed to start over, and limit the number of factions per alliance. So I propose that we cut down the grand alliances fir the better of the group. And admins please support if this idea goes through.

Um, this group hasn't exactly ground to a halt. I don't think your idea of breaking up the Axis and the Allies is going to work...
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| July 13, 2011, 7:10 pm
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Recent reports have it that the JDIC recently imported fifty foreign tanks for an undisclosed amount. The rather shady nature of this deal has upset the Defense Ministry and executive office alike simply due to the fact that the neither the price nor country of origin has been released to us at this time. We're tempted to bar any vessels from entering our harbors, but this would simply kill our shipping industry due to unnecessary auxiliary costs. We await the confirmation of this order's completion so we can see what certain companies have done with our monies.

In other news, vertical farming has become quite popular with the Far Eastern district. Although the variety of foodstuffs is still lesser than that of what comes into, say, Moscow, this should evolve over time to accommodate a fine amount of produce. Also, the whole program shall by green energy. Ethanol shall be burnt as a reserve power source while solar and wind farms shall pump the necessary energy into the farms as the primary power sources.

Finally, incoming traffic into our country is being closely monitored. With war raging on very near to us, we can't afford for such tragedies like sabotage and terrorism to erupt in our country as it remains as one of the last pillars of neutral Europe. We've also mobilized many mobile radar units to help close the gap in some national blind-spots so no pesky intruders can take advantage of our airspace. SAMs will soon follow, but we need to outfit all active outfits with the newer munitions coming into service before we deem them capable of all-out defense.
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| July 13, 2011, 7:42 pm
Quoting Danny Morgan
Um, this group hasn't exactly ground to a halt. I don't think your idea of breaking up the Axis and the Allies is going to work...

That's what I was worried about. I just wanted to throw something out there because this whole Axis/Allies may spiral out of control. But if everyone is okay with it, then I guess we'll continue like this.

Australia will remain neutral in this situation for now.
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| July 13, 2011, 7:43 pm
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Quoting Matt P Sooo,
We all agreed to start over, and limit the number of factions per alliance. So I propose that we cut down the grand alliances fir the better of the group. And admins please support if this idea goes through.


No.

We tried to limit these alliances already (we expressed your same concerns earlier) and the simple way to bypass it was to not make any official alliances. Rather, everyone who is in a "superalliance" is only in one because we either A) have a common enemy or B) have been friends for a while.

Your suggestion, in this case, is impossible due to those two suggestions. Putting a limit on number of players involved in a war would be one theoretical way, but then the group gets boring for everyone else. So far, I feel that though the feeling of 2-3 superalliances exist, since its "unofficial" it is far less intimidating than in previous efforts, where the alliances sat around nervously not wanting to do anything, and when it did, it failed.

I have a suggestion for your "Conflict" group. Encourage frequent PvP wars and you will not find yourself in a situation where a super-stalemate threatens the entire group. So far, there have been 4-5 major conflicts, and we are still going strong.
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| July 13, 2011, 7:45 pm
Quoting Matt Hacker


Gotche. I understand. And thanks for the ideas for my other group.
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| July 13, 2011, 10:01 pm
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Quoting Ham N' Biscuits

I saw this coming at some time, but not now. You're going to blame this all on me? No nation would ever leave it's entire navy at port.

It takes mucho moola to keep your ENTIRE navy out at sea. You'd have to run that many more fleet oilers and such to do that.

Quoting Matt P
Sooo,
We all agreed to start over, and limit the number of factions per alliance. So I propose that we cut down the grand alliances fir the better of the group. And admins please support if this idea goes through.

Oh, please!

Well, I was there, I know what happened, and in fact I was a major voice against the super-alliances. What we have here is not half the world allied with each other for keeps, but a world allied with each other against a common foe. Check out the US & Russia circa WWII. I'm only permanent allies with three nations, and friends with anyone outside the Axis.

That was just referring to your apparent naivete. Sorry, but the Axis gave up on realistic alliances on day one. What possible alliance would China and a fraction state of the US (China's current worst enemy despite near economic reliance on us)? Egypt of all places? Spain I could see, but not the "Blood-brothers" that they are. Why would China bother with Egypt?

At least I've stuck with my own hemisphere when it comes to alliances, or acted upon historic alliances (like me & Israel, and me & England). But even in the case of England, we're not the Siamese twins that the Iberian Union and the PCU are. Actually, they might as well call themselves the United Nations of Earth for how disgustingly well they get along.

Anyway, I'm down off my soap box.
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| July 13, 2011, 10:49 pm
Quoting Matt Hacker
America is John Moffat
Europe/wherever else is Andrew.

I hate to inform you, but ALL of Europe is against Ham here, and he's in it to win it (unless he bizarrely plans to backstab us).

Except Brian, because he's just waiting for a chance to wrest control of South Africa from Henry.
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| July 13, 2011, 10:51 pm
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Quoting Areetsa C
Except Brian, because he's just waiting for a chance to wrest control of South Africa from Henry.


Brian=France and France is at war, I don't know what to tell ya.
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| July 13, 2011, 10:53 pm
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Quoting Areetsa C
Except Brian, because he's just waiting for a chance to wrest control of South Africa from Henry.

Uh, no, that was YOUR plan. I doubt it was his.
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| July 13, 2011, 11:01 pm
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Quoting Ultramarine .
That was just referring to your apparent naivete. Sorry, but the Axis gave up on realistic alliances on day one. What possible alliance would China and a fraction state of the US (China's current worst enemy despite near economic reliance on us)? Egypt of all places? Spain I could see, but not the "Blood-brothers" that they are. Why would China bother with Egypt?


HEY YOU! GET OFFA MAH CLOUD!

The Axis is a temporary alliance to what we see as something that threatens all of us- the forces of democracy! We're all monarchies or dictatorships, or at the worst, corrupt democracies, and we think you goody-two shoes voting people need to be stopped. Once they are stopped, there goes the Axis. Spain and Egypt can fight over North Africa, Eastern Confederation and Pacific Union can bicker, whatever, not my problem. The only permanent alliance I have is with the Pacific Union, and that's because of historical ties from our personal canon.

By the way, the current real-world economic reliance goes both ways.

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| July 13, 2011, 11:06 pm
Quoting Matt Hacker

Brian=France and France is at war, I don't know what to tell ya.

Quoting Alenian Minister Of Foreign Affairs
20 Apr 11, 10.12PM PDT

Okay, I got word from Ham, and it's your call. If you decide to start the Norman Invasion version 2.0, he'll back you up.

Quoting France
I need to know how many troops he is willing to commit. I'll only fire upon them if they fire upon you, that way it doesn't look like we're doing so "just cause".

I'll make a Private Flickr Group, invite you two and plan the invasion of South Africa, step by step.

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| July 13, 2011, 11:08 pm
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Quoting Areetsa C
Quoting Alenian Minister Of Foreign Affairs
20 Apr 11, 10.12PM PDT

Okay, I got word from Ham, and it's your call. If you decide to start the Norman Invasion version 2.0, he'll back you up.

Quoting France
I need to know how many troops he is willing to commit. I'll only fire upon them if they fire upon you, that way it doesn't look like we're doing so "just cause".

I'll make a Private Flickr Group, invite you two and plan the invasion of South Africa, step by step.


I will respond with your own words, and you can tell me how I got them.

Quoting you roughly 3 months ago

"Whatever your price is, there'd also be a considerable bonus if you'd engage in military offensives against Tom and/or Henry.

My current objective is to maintain Luke's possession of Angola. Depending on how much help we get, I might be able to convince him to join in in an attack on South Africa (to keep Henry at bay, naturally).

No doubt he'll be very grateful to anyone who helps out.

Could be some bits of South Africa and/or Madagascar in it for you.
There be -g-o-l-d- diamonds in them thar South African hills, you know..

I'm going to open a private flickr group for Henry, yourself, and I because Henry'll want this, too."

Sound familiar? There are also direct quotes from him, but I feel that this shows the severity of your misunderstanding.
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| July 13, 2011, 11:14 pm
Quoting Ultramarine .
Uh, no, that was YOUR plan. I doubt it was his.

Actually, MY plan was: "what'd you want in exchange for not getting involved in Africa?"

Quoting Matt Hacker
I will respond with your own words, and you can tell me how I got them.

Must be that hacking cad Phaze playing silly beggars.
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| July 13, 2011, 11:15 pm
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Quoting Areetsa C
Quoting Matt Hacker
I will respond with your own words, and you can tell me how I got them.

Must be that hacking cad Phaze playing silly beggars.


Sure sure, we have a thread of evidence against your position with more FMs, direct statements by Brian, and discussions on, surprise surprise, Ham's planned involvement against the rest of the Euros as well. We managed to score a major intel break, whose implications we are still benefiting from.
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| July 13, 2011, 11:28 pm
Quoting Matt Hacker
Sure sure, we have a thread of evidence against your position with more FMs, direct statements by Brian, and discussions on, surprise surprise, Ham's planned involvement against the rest of the Euros as well. We managed to score a major intel break, whose implications we are still benefiting from.

Except for the very simple fact that none of it is trustworthy. If you really think the former regime would've handed over anything actually useful to an unproven traitor, you'd be remarkably gullible.
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| July 13, 2011, 11:52 pm
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Quoting Areetsa C
Except for the very simple fact that none of it is trustworthy. If you really think the former regime would've handed over anything actually useful to an unproven traitor, you'd be remarkably gullible.


No, I don't think that it was that remarkable, especially given your group posts at the time. The sheer fact that we have FMs from you to him should be ringing some alarm bells, though.

Looking from then to now, there has been no reason to believe that he isn't trustworthy to us. If that was the case, our entire war in Europe would have been leaked because he knew the plan roughly a week in advance.

Continue to argue, if you so desire. It won't change anything (unless you do happen to have FMs from Brian that are from some other Euro, which I severely doubt is the case).
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| July 13, 2011, 11:58 pm
Quoting Matt Hacker

No, I don't think that it was that remarkable, especially given your group posts at the time. The sheer fact that we have FMs from you to him should be ringing some alarm bells, though.

Looking from then to now, there has been no reason to believe that he isn't trustworthy to us. If that was the case, our entire war in Europe would have been leaked because he knew the plan roughly a week in advance.

Continue to argue, if you so desire. It won't change anything (unless you do happen to have FMs from Brian that are from some other Euro, which I severely doubt is the case).

Maybe, maybe not. Would definitely be torpedoing my own plans if I confirmed it either way.
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| July 14, 2011, 12:12 am
Quoting Evan Melick
John will be receiving the last set of orders from Andrew regarding America. He's in charge there. ...unfortunately.

About that. I've just been hurled into a massive global conflict with no prior information. Could someone do me a huge favour and tell me which side everybody is on?
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| July 14, 2011, 12:16 am
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Quoting John Moffatt
About that. I've just been hurled into a massive global conflict with no prior information. Could someone do me a huge favour and tell me which side everybody is on?


Axis:
Koaxiang China (Awe)
Pacific Union (Nick)
Indo-Union (Danny)
Eastern Confederation (Gober)
Iberian Union (Ham)
Kingdom of Egypt (Cliffe)

Allies:
United States of North America (Ultra)
Byzantine Federation (Evan)
UNC (Hacker)
France (Brian)
Baltic Union (Tom N)
Britain (Henry)

Ultra's not in the fight yet, but I'd bet real money he will be soon, so I'm grouping him with Allies.
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| July 14, 2011, 12:27 am
Thank you SO very much.
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| July 14, 2011, 12:32 am
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Quoting Matt Hacker

Sure sure, we have a thread of evidence against your position with more FMs, direct statements by Brian, and discussions on, surprise surprise, Ham's planned involvement against the rest of the Euros as well. We managed to score a major intel break, whose implications we are still benefiting from.

Le Gasp! You mean we actually got the goods on an Axis member for once?! YUSSS!!!!! Pardon me whilst I...

/revelsinthedeliciousnessofthismoment

Quoting Evan Melick
What I'm really concerned about is if you have to backbone to follow up with all of your threats to Europe. You stated you'll kill everyone who is associated with Ultra. So bring it homie.

Now you see what I meant when I said that he would pursue aggression with "Reckless abandon."

Quoting John Moffatt
Thank you SO very much.

http://img200.imageshack.us/img200/1551/diplomatslegionsbam.png

I'm the second biggest blob (tan) on the map. Purple is the EC with Will G., blue-ish whatever is the PCU with Nick, light green in SA is the Southern Confederation with Tim, darker green is Alaska with Jack Ford, and Orange is Andrew in Cuba.
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| July 14, 2011, 12:40 am
Quoting John Moffatt
Thank you SO very much.

If I get attacked by Ultra in this CR, Ima lol.

To quote Jacob from Mass Effect 2: "So much for peace."
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| July 14, 2011, 12:56 am
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Quoting Nick Shelton
If I get attacked by Ultra in this CR, Ima lol.

To quote Jacob from Mass Effect 2: "So much for peace."


Ah yes Ultra! The supposed annoying midwesterner waiting to strike his neighbors. We have dismissed those claims.

In all seriousness, Awe forgot Brikkr. And I am willing to bet the same thing.
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| July 14, 2011, 12:59 am
Quoting Matt Hacker

Ah yes Ultra! The supposed annoying midwesterner waiting to strike his neighbors. We have dismissed those claims.

In all seriousness, Awe forgot Brikkr. And I am willing to bet the same thing.

Awe hasn't forgotten brikkr...
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| July 14, 2011, 1:07 am
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Quoting Danny Morgan
Awe hasn't forgotten brikkr...


Actually, yes. Brikkr isn't listed as an Allied nation even though Ultra is listed, and of course, they go hand in hand.
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| July 14, 2011, 1:09 am
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Quoting Matt Hacker
Actually, yes. Brikkr isn't listed as an Allied nation even though Ultra is listed, and of course, they go hand in hand.

Brikkr quite, no thanks to the trolling. Awe was right, it was a shame. Actually, it was a flawless example of cyber-bullying, I'd say.

Quoting Nick Shelton
If I get attacked by Ultra in this CR, Ima lol.

To quote Jacob from Mass Effect 2: "So much for peace."

Not that I haven't got AMPLE reason to, after all.
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| July 14, 2011, 1:12 am
Quoting Evan Melick
What I'm really concerned about is if you have to backbone to follow up with all of your threats to Europe. You stated you'll kill everyone who is associated with Ultra. So bring it homie.

Oh, I will. Sooner or later, when the appropriate time comes.

-----

Speaking of which: sufficient of the new MSAM units and their ammunition have been produced to equip an assault division. The rest will have to rely on the old Soviet and Chinese equipment for the time being.
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| July 14, 2011, 2:06 am
Quoting |Brîan| C
Ah, but that is where you are wrong. I used you so extremely well, for my own benefit. I always wanted to get in an alliance with europe, seeing as I knew both Matt, Erik and Evan from previous ventures. I knew Tom, not o a personal level, but I respected him, and Henry.

I think you might find that "using" Greater Alenia is an extremely dangerous endeavour, akin to tap dancing on a landmine, which will then sneak across your borders and murder you in your sleep. Even moreso with the recent increase in anti-foreigner opinion.

However, that only applies to people who're successful in their attempts. I know better than to trust traitors who haven't thoroughly burned their bridges behind them.
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| July 14, 2011, 9:07 am
Quoting |Brîan| C
Should you enter this war, and attack mainland europe, you might find several superpowers tap dancing on your doorstep, my friend.

And they say MY threats are unrealistic.
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| July 14, 2011, 9:32 am
Are we still fighting over Chile or are we mainly on Europe?
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| July 14, 2011, 10:18 am
I find the lack of combat modding...

Disturbing.

When are orders due for Europe?

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| July 14, 2011, 11:04 am
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Quoting Connor Nandell (Arcancilia at War)
Are we still fighting over Chile or are we mainly on Europe?

No one was ever 'fighting' over Chile. A bunch of people that supposedly don't care about each other except mutual support got up in arms over absolutely nothing. Now, the only one with diplomats in the country has his hands full, and the other person couldn't worry about stopping you because he's paranoid about his eastern neighbor while having an economy that would cough and die the moment he tried to deploy.

I think it's safe to say that you're good to go!

I couldn't find you on Flickr, could you drop me a line? http://www.flickr.com/photos/46934040@N05/
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| July 14, 2011, 11:34 am
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Quoting Evan Melick
Convenient post is convenient!

Andrew is at work, told me to post:

COMBAT ORDERS FOR EUROPE DUE TONIGHT BY 7PM EDT.

He has also sent the correct stuff to John Moffat.

Speaking of Andrew, has he said anything about the part of my orders that he missed?
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| July 14, 2011, 1:00 pm
Chile will be defended!

Quoting Ultramarine .

So I suppose during my whole entire exhaustion my economy didn't regenerate at all, while your's did? K.

Also, AMPLE reason? Just goes to show how hypocritical the "USNA" is about their WR policies.

Quoting Matt Hacker

Ah yes Ultra! The supposed annoying midwesterner waiting to strike his neighbors. We have dismissed those claims.

In all seriousness, Awe forgot Brikkr. And I am willing to bet the same thing.

Everytime you reply to my quotes, you gain more respect from me. :p
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| July 14, 2011, 1:02 pm
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Quoting C A


Sup brah, do you have a Flickr?

@Brazil stuff: Brikkr claims he's neutral, so I didn't put him on the Allies, though I suspect he's gonna go "Of course I'm neutral, here guys, have some old destroyers!"
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| July 14, 2011, 1:18 pm
Quoting Awesome-o-saurus The Not-So-Great

Sup brah, do you have a Flickr?

ya CAep19
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| July 14, 2011, 2:02 pm
Well this is a pain, I still have no idea what I have left of a navy despite asking Andrew after the first CR.
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| July 14, 2011, 2:39 pm
Heres the casualty list for the ships I listed as of various classes. Next set of orders are due by 7pm tonight (EST).
1 Conquistador class Super-Carrier
1 Juan Carlos I Assault carrier
2 Galicia Class transport docks
5 F-100 class air defence frigates
8 Lepanto class destroyers
6 F-80 class frigates
4 Galleon class stealth destroyers
20 assorted patrol craft
1 L-40 landing ship
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| July 14, 2011, 3:17 pm
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Quoting -> avalella
Heres the casualty list for the ships I listed as of various classes. Next set of orders are due by 7pm tonight (EST).
1 Conquistador class Super-Carrier
1 Juan Carlos I Assault carrier
2 Galicia Class transport docks
5 F-100 class air defence frigates
8 Lepanto class destroyers
6 F-80 class frigates
4 Galleon class stealth destroyers
20 assorted patrol craft
1 L-40 landing ship

Excuse me, but, he sold one of those carriers to Ultra months ago... Whay does he still have it?
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| July 14, 2011, 3:29 pm
Quoting Tom Neumo
Excuse me, but, he sold one of those carriers to Ultra months ago... Whay does he still have it?


I don't, Spain has an assault carrier and normal carrier IRL.
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| July 14, 2011, 3:38 pm
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Quoting Nick Shelton

Sigh.

Nick, you must suffer from an awful lot of pride issues. Every time I do something “Unreasonable,” it turns out to be completely reasonable to pretty well everyone but you and your very few friends in this group. You, on the other hand, continue to be completely unreasonable. You refuse to make any concessions whatsoever, you refuse to bend, you refuse to do a single thing to foster the so-called ‘peaceful’ US that you supposedly want so badly. Name me one single thing that you’ve done; anything at all.

Instead, you’ve violated my airspace, shot down my planes in my own skies, and occupied a DMZ that you were warned by two nations against doing for the sake of 'peace'. You are an antagonist who messes stuff up yet always points the finger at others.

As for your economics, well, I’m sure it was on the mend quite nicely. That is, until you wasted $100 billion to $1 trillion on the “Folly Wall”, financed the construction of your tanks and aircraft on “Egyptian” land during your exhaustion, and paid for your entire navy to be rebuilt for you by others. Not to mention that with half the GDP of the USNA, you pretend to be capable of fielding a navy as large as the one that you are. You’ve blown literally billions in training a bunch of militarily useless citizens (I might have a ‘civilian army’ but I made them for a fun thing I was gonna do, but circumstances prevented) that will amount to nothing in terms of military significance.

By the way, I believe that you mean Western Confederation (WC) instead of Western Republic (WR) because the WR never attacked you either.

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| July 14, 2011, 4:36 pm
I actually built my own ships. >.>

About bending: I'm going to die on my feet rather than live kneeling to a dictatorship they call the USNA.
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| July 14, 2011, 4:47 pm
Telling people they have no friends is what they call bullying, and is usually indicating that the bully is insecure and must make himself feel better by his actions.

Oh, I'm going to get so much flak for this.
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| July 14, 2011, 4:56 pm
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Quoting Ham N' Biscuits
Telling people they have no friends is what they call bullying, and is usually indicating that the bully is insecure and must make himself feel better by his actions.

Oh, I'm going to get so much flak for this.

And that would be what they call a perfect misrepresentation of what I said. I'm gonna let you go back, read what I said, and let you tell me what is inaccurate about your statement.

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| July 14, 2011, 5:08 pm
Quoting Ultramarine .
Every time I do something “Unreasonable,” it turns out to be completely reasonable to pretty well everyone but you and your very few friends in this group.

You did say he has "very few friends."
As to go as far as saying this is bullying, well, I don't know about that.
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| July 14, 2011, 5:35 pm
Quoting Ultramarine .
No one was ever 'fighting' over Chile. A bunch of people that supposedly don't care about each other except mutual support got up in arms over absolutely nothing. Now, the only one with diplomats in the country has his hands full, and the other person couldn't worry about stopping you because he's paranoid about his eastern neighbor while having an economy that would cough and die the moment he tried to deploy.

I think it's safe to say that you're good to go!

I couldn't find you on Flickr, could you drop me a line? http://www.flickr.com/photos/46934040@N05/

Sure...http://www.flickr.com/photos/connortheawesome/
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| July 14, 2011, 5:58 pm
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Quoting Will G.
You did say he has "very few friends."
As to go as far as saying this is bullying, well, I don't know about that.

Oh please! Just look at what he's called me, said about me, insinuated about me, outright insulted me, and all that good stuff.

Cry me a river, build me a bridge, and get over it.

I also find it very hypocritical that *they* would accuse *me* of bullying considering from day one they've made it a career. And you've done your absolute best to make up for lost time, I see.

Quoting Nick Shelton
About bending: I'm going to die on my feet rather than live kneeling to a dictatorship they call the USNA.

Then I will turn a blind I when I see another post about how hypocritical I am when you refuse to even try to contribute to the peace you supposedly want and desire so much when you take and demand EVERYTHING and give NOTHING. Unless you'd like to change that trend?

You do everything you can to poke, prod, and cheat your way through everything bending treaties (breaking them outright, actually) refusing to listen to reason or diplomacy. Yet I'm the unreasonable one somehow? Forgive me if I don't see it.
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| July 14, 2011, 6:30 pm
Quoting Evan Melick
Says the person who built a number of completely pointless battleships in the Caspian Sea, and who couldn't actually harm anyone in Europe besides piddly special ops and a terrorist attack or two.

Pointless, are they? Well, I notice none of the Allies have tried to sneak naval assets into the region. What do you have to say to THAT, huh?
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| July 14, 2011, 6:36 pm
I'm a hypocrite. The axis are all hypocrites. Everyone in the group is a hypocrite. The sooner everyone gets that, the better.
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| July 14, 2011, 6:44 pm
Quoting Ham N' Biscuits
I'm a hypocrite. The axis are all hypocrites. Everyone in the group is a hypocrite. The sooner everyone gets that, the better.

It's only hypocrisy when someone else is doing it.
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| July 14, 2011, 6:46 pm
/takesoutparchmentscroll

Hear ye, Hear ye!

Will the following please check thier FMs.
Awe
Nick
Arty
Cliffe
and John
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| July 14, 2011, 6:50 pm
Quoting Daniel Holland
/takesoutparchmentscroll

Hear ye, Hear ye!

Will the following please check thier FMs.
Awe
Nick
Arty
Cliffe
and John

Well that's pretty subtle.

Anyways South African forces are now on high alert because we have intercepted high traffic between Angola and Axis forces. Mozambique is also warned, and their government officials are being evacuated, and military is going on high alert as well.
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| July 14, 2011, 7:05 pm
If the Western Republic has SUCH a problem with the Union, maybe they should get us to change our names and make everything fine again, hmm?

The Union agrees with England on their stance on Angola.
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| July 14, 2011, 7:10 pm
Quoting henry wang
Well that's pretty subtle.

Anyways South African forces are now on high alert because we have intercepted high traffic between Angola and Axis forces. Mozambique is also warned, and their government officials are being evacuated, and military is going on high alert as well.

Okay, fine, take valubule soldiers to defend sout africa while I plan an invasion of the democratic republic of the congo, Axis members! it's working!

Maybe I should stop talking...

Nah, have you never noticed how banas are yellow, and so are lemons, life is great.

Plus, you already thouroughly whooped me, and now, namibia is a factor, and france has a force in madagascar making it that much quicker for him to help you with a retaliation.

So feel free wasting your valubule soldiers and money on a false alarm.

Heh, I love false info. and fake alliances.
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| July 14, 2011, 7:25 pm
Quoting |Brîan| C

10,000 French Foreign Legion and 12,000 Marines settled into Northern Madagascar. The provinces 70 SAMs were put online to shoot down Axis Aircraft flying over Souther Madagascar, Lesotho, South Africa, and itself. Angola: be warned, should you put naval ships in or around South Africa or any of the other countries stated, you will be fired upon.

God, can I not arrange the invasion of an NPC country without everyone thinking I want to Rule africa?
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| July 14, 2011, 7:29 pm
Quoting Daniel Holland

Again that's not happening, and my 50,000 or so South African soldiers were never actually going anywhere near the front.
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| July 14, 2011, 7:34 pm
Quoting henry wang
Again that's not happening, and my 50,000 or so South African soldiers were never actually going anywhere near the front.
so, according to your stats page, you have 113,00 soldiers, that means almost half of them are in SA. that means a little more than half are in your homeland thats about 65,000. thats almost 100,000 less than most of the axis. let's see how that works out. plus, I;m not just allies with the axis, I also got some ally friends. I'm just trying to invade and NPC with out every one freaking out like you did with Mozambique.

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| July 14, 2011, 7:43 pm
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Quoting Areetsa C
Pointless, are they? Well, I notice none of the Allies have tried to sneak naval assets into the region. What do you have to say to THAT, huh?


Oh, jeepers creepers, good golly gosh! [i]obviously[/i] we are trembling at the thought of engaging your glorious battleships.

More like there is no reason to be there or do anything with you. You are a minor annoyance who is not really a serious threat to anyone despite your delusions that terrorism is an effective tool in this group.
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| July 14, 2011, 7:43 pm
Quoting |Brîan| C
SOUTH AFRICAN soldiers and UPDATES, Sherlock.

I really don't care for your tone Mr., and please, check again, he has one post and it says soldiers not british in one row and South african soldiers in another.
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| July 14, 2011, 7:52 pm
Quoting |Brîan| C

No, you can't actually because it's called imperialism.

Empires are born out of imperialism, america was born out of imperialism, Britain was born out of imperialism. Let us not forget that imperialistic Britain came into Africa first and Conqured the helpless Zulus.
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| July 14, 2011, 7:58 pm
Quoting |Brîan| C
He has 63,000 Territorial Troops ._.

Okay, your right, but I'm still curious as to why your fighting Henries fight for him, does someone have a little guy crush on henry.
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| July 14, 2011, 8:03 pm
Quoting Daniel Holland
Empires are born out of imperialism, america was born out of imperialism, Britain was born out of imperialism. Let us not forget that imperialistic Britain came into Africa first and Conqured the helpless Zulus.

63,650 territorial troops, they're in there. It would cost too much and take too long to move even a fraction of those troops. Also I'd just like to mention that imperialism has long ended and it has been proven over and over again to be bad and destroys cultures. I do not condone imperialism, however I do condone the peaceful unity between countries with like-minded interests such as South Africa and myself.
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| July 14, 2011, 8:04 pm
Quoting |Brîan| C
That was when nobody cared about imperialism. Live in the now.

Do you see the US go, "Britain, France, Germany, let's gang up on Mexico"? No.

No, but does America need help to Beat Mexico? No.
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| July 14, 2011, 8:05 pm
Quoting Matt Hacker
Oh, jeepers creepers, good golly gosh! [i]obviously[/i] we are trembling at the thought of engaging your glorious battleships.

My point exactly!
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| July 14, 2011, 8:09 pm
Quoting henry wang
63,650 territorial troops, they're in there. It would cost too much and take too long to move even a fraction of those troops. Also I'd just like to mention that imperialism has long ended and it has been proven over and over again to be bad and destroys cultures. I do not condone imperialism, however I do condone the peaceful unity between countries with like-minded interests such as South Africa and myself.

Wait, I'm confused, if you aren't Mobolizing anytroops, or Powering up any equipment, How are you on this Useless "High Alert"
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| July 14, 2011, 8:10 pm
Quoting |Brîan| C
Nope, he is a close ally, much like myself and the BU.

France is a democracy and doesn't stand for imperialistic dictatorships.

Angola is an Imperialistic dictatorship that doesn't enjoy Democracies.
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| July 14, 2011, 8:12 pm
Quoting Daniel Holland

I mean it would take too much time and resources to move these guys halfway around the world to fight a battle. However, they are on high alert currently ready to pounce on you.
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| July 14, 2011, 8:15 pm
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Quoting Ultramarine .
cheat your way through everything bending treaties (breaking them outright, actually)


I see bent treaties, but certainly no broken ones.

@The river and bridge: I can cry you a river quite easily, however, what should I build the bridge out of? I was thinking about harnessing the power of a flame war's heat to forge some steel.

Quoting |Brîan| C
France is a democracy and doesn't stand for imperialistic dictatorships.


Hey you! Get out of Madagascar!
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| July 14, 2011, 8:17 pm
Quoting henry wang
I mean it would take too much time and resources to move these guys halfway around the world to fight a battle. However, they are on high alert currently ready to pounce on you.

Ah, okay. well now that that's cleared up. The President of Angola will send you a piece of his mother's Chocolate cake as a peace offering.
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| July 14, 2011, 8:21 pm
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Quoting Awesome-o-saurus The Not-So-Great
Treaties

Well, he's broken it on 3 occasions, actually. Once with the same one you did. Once was right off when he refused to return the soldiers native to the states he lost. It's there, you can read it, along with him saying "I agree to all terms." Second, we only have you all's conspired word that Cliffe 'bought' territory in the PCU and that it wasn't cooked up afterward and pretended to be that way. Now, you're breaching (actually, you haven't yet) his airspace and attempting (thought you haven't yet) to base troops there.

But yes, the flame war's getting thick, and I won't say any more.

Quoting Daniel Holland
No, but does America need help to Beat Mexico? No.

Does Mexico come out and threaten to destroy the US and therefore provoke them? No.
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| July 14, 2011, 8:26 pm
Quoting |Brîan| C
Which would explain France's thriving economic state and Angola's low economic state.

Seriously, give up the empire deal. All you'll have to do is print more "I regret to inform you..." letters, which will probably smash your economy there will be so much (although it wouldn't take much to smash your economy ._.)


Check out the economy of Angola in Wiki.

Angola had the fastest growing economy from 2000 on and has Tons of oil. It has the best economy of any surrounding country. It has the largest army, and that's not including the amazingly fast rate it's going. Now let's talk about how well frenchmen fight...

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| July 14, 2011, 8:28 pm
Quoting Awesome-o-saurus The Not-So-Great

Hey you! Get out of Madagascar!

Finally, Backup!
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| July 14, 2011, 8:32 pm
Quoting |Brîan| C
That was when nobody cared about imperialism. Live in the now.

Do you see some democracy go, "Britain, France, Germany, Scandinavia, let's gang up on a Spanish speaking country"? No.


How about yes.
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| July 14, 2011, 8:33 pm
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Quoting Ultramarine .
Well, he's broken it on 3 occasions, actually. Once with the same one you did. Once was right off when he refused to return the soldiers native to the states he lost. It's there, you can read it, along with him saying "I agree to all terms." Second, we only have you all's conspired word that Cliffe 'bought' territory in the PCU and that it wasn't cooked up afterward and pretended to be that way. Now, you're breaching (actually, you haven't yet) his airspace and attempting (thought you haven't yet) to base troops there.

But yes, the flame war's getting thick, and I won't say any more.


Oh yes, I remember those. I can't make you believe me, so I won't try. However, it has been ruled by our Glorious and Most Benevolent Admins, may they live forever, that I am not breaking the treaty, and doing something within it's bounds. By the way, I actually did start sending over planes yesterday, so they're landing as I type.

Now, for you not saying anything more in this debacle, I highly doubt that. You're one of us, an arguer. You enjoy it, just like me.
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| July 14, 2011, 8:34 pm
Quoting Ultramarine .

Quoting Daniel Holland
No, but does America need help to Beat Mexico? No.

Does Mexico come out and threaten to destroy the US and therefore provoke them? No.

Have I ever come out and threaten to destroy Henry and therefore provoke him? No.

Let's see if the whole group can get in on this argument!

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| July 14, 2011, 8:34 pm
Quoting Daniel Holland

Check out the economy of Angola in Wiki.

Angola had the fastest growing economy from 2000 on and has Tons of oil. It has the best economy of any surrounding country. It has the largest army, and that's not including the amazingly fast rate it's going. Now let's talk about how well frenchmen fight...

One gear forwards, ten in reverse. That's the way the old joke about french tanks goes, quiaff?
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| July 14, 2011, 8:36 pm
Quoting Areetsa C
One gear forwards, ten in reverse. That's the way the old joke about french tanks goes, quiaff?

Why do french roads have trees along them?
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| July 14, 2011, 8:38 pm
Quoting Ham N' Biscuits

How about yes.

He worded that very poorly.
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| July 14, 2011, 8:40 pm
Quoting |Brîan| C
That honestly made me lol.

@Angola- A 4447 Per Capita GDP isn't something to be proud of >.>

I'm looking at a page that says our GDP is 8,700
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| July 14, 2011, 8:41 pm
Quoting Ham N' Biscuits

How about yes.

LOLXDROFL8DLMAO
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| July 14, 2011, 8:43 pm
Quoting |Brîan| C
Whatever.

You see, that's what I say to my friends after an argument I know I lost.
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| July 14, 2011, 8:55 pm
Quoting |Brîan| C

4,000 in GDP is not a large difference. FYI, US GDP is 46,000.

4,000 is alot when you're talking about a Third world coutry that only makes twice that. Plus, one of the biggest drags on the economy was a corrupt Government. That has all been solved.
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| July 14, 2011, 9:04 pm
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Quoting Nick Shelton

Quoting Will G.

Ok, just a quick look at the stats page says that both of you haven't got it quite right of a few things. Nick, didn't you just start production of the MAF-4? Then how on earth do you have 300+ of them in just under 3 days?

Will, how on earth do you have over 250 F-35s? There have been fewer than 50 ever built. I could only find that up to 8 Littoral combat ships were built, how do you have upwards of 35?

If you can say how, go for it. But I find the excess of IRL vehicles that don't exist disturbing.

Quoting Daniel Holland
Have I ever come out and threaten to destroy Henry and therefore provoke him? No.

Let's see if the whole group can get in on this argument!

I just find it extremely interesting how a very small and vulnerable nation like you is trying to take on half the world. It's like you're a mouse...that's roaring... Ok, where's the Q-bomb and what are your demands! /literaryallusion.
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| July 14, 2011, 11:02 pm
Quoting Ultramarine .

At the beginning of the group multiple persons confirmed that I had the production rights to the F-35, therefore I took the liberty to begin producing them on my own very early on, after that, I sold rights to Brikkr for some money and a carrier.

Regarding the LCS, either Jack Ford or Brendan Dore one, informed me I had the company, and shipyard that produced them, I sold them, and decided to start producing them. Seeing as how they are very small, I thought having quite a few would not be a problem, I am not sure what they are classified as under the new rules.
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| July 14, 2011, 11:28 pm
I put over 300 because I'm heIIa lazy and don't want to update as I build more.
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| July 14, 2011, 11:28 pm
Quoting Ultramarine .
I just find it extremely interesting how a very small and vulnerable nation like you is trying to take on half the world. It's like you're a mouse...that's roaring... Ok, where's the Q-bomb and what are your demands! /literaryallusion.

Here's the way I see it: when pretty much the whole world is fighting, you can be really annoying and challenge half the world and still have the other half to back you up.
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| July 14, 2011, 11:34 pm
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Quoting Will G.

Ah, gotcha. Very well then, just doing my job.

Quoting Daniel Holland
Here's the way I see it: when pretty much the whole world is fighting, you can be really annoying and challenge half the world and still have the other half to back you up.

Either that or you make half the world mad while the other half you thought would back you up couldn't care less.
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| July 14, 2011, 11:49 pm
Quoting Daniel Holland
Here's the way I see it: when pretty much the whole world is fighting, you can be really annoying and challenge half the world and still have the other half to back you up.

I don't know whose side you're on buddy, 'cause it sure ain't the Axis, or at least not the Confederacy.
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| July 15, 2011, 12:23 am
Quoting Will G.
I don't know whose side you're on buddy, 'cause it sure ain't the Axis, or at least not the Confederacy.

lol.

Finished the Axis symbol btw. Unfortunately Awe's Latin suggestion wouldn't fit around the rim, so instead the writing says:

"Union against a common enemy, the allied forces"
"Until the evils of democracy are kept at bay"

I can still change that though, so I'm open to new suggestions...
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| July 15, 2011, 1:21 am
Oh, and I forgot to report about the Assault of Cambodia (and Lao, but later on).

So when the IU demanded Cambodia to lay down their arms and let us in peacefully, most of the corrupt men in charge decided not to out up a fight, probably due to the fact that Valkyries were hovering outside their coasts. Buf a few of the leaders, not willing to surrender their power, declared war on the IU, thinking they could use Guerilla tactics to inflict damage on the Indo Union's invading ground force.

Unfortunately for them, the IU predicted that they would attempt such a tactic, so they sent in a force the rebels were virtually defenseless against: the air force. Several other leaders in Cambodia decided also to declare war on the IU.

Not willing to inflict too many innocent casualties by starting a war against a nation that was bound to lose, the IU attempted to end the war before it began, by destroying these rebel leaders and the men who would take their places.

It wasn't hard, especially with a modern high-tech satellite at our disposal. It took less than a week to pinpoint the hide-outs of the rebel leaders, and an extra few hours to obliterate them. A12 Demons dropped a single smart bomb on each of the hideouts, and Valkyries performed missile runs on a couple of hide outs until there was nothing but ash and rubble.

With every single rebel leader killed within a 3 hour operation, we hope any other rebels out there will be too fearful for their own lives to step up and claim leadership of the rebellions, but just to make sure, we're not going to send in ground forces for at least a few more days. These "unnaturally quiet" few days will hopefully give any wannabe rebels enough time for the fact that they can do absolutely nothing to stop a force like the IU from invading, to sink in.
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| July 15, 2011, 2:45 am
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Quoting Danny Morgan
lol.

Finished the Axis symbol btw. Unfortunately Awe's Latin suggestion wouldn't fit around the rim, so instead the writing says:

"Union against a common enemy, the allied forces"
"Until the evils of democracy are kept at bay"

I can still change that though, so I'm open to new suggestions...


...
...
http://s3.amazonaws.com/kym-assets/entries/icons/original/000/005/545/OpoQQ.jpg?1302279173

How the heII does that fit but not "Ut faciant in eis judicium conscriptum"?

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| July 15, 2011, 3:10 am
Quoting Awesome-o-saurus The Not-So-Great

...
...
http://s3.amazonaws.com/kym-assets/entries/icons/original/000/005/545/OpoQQ.jpg?1302279173

How the heII does that fit but not "Ut faciant in eis judicium conscriptum"?

Not enough writing I meant, huge gaps around the rim. If you'd care to give me about twice as much writing...
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| July 15, 2011, 3:18 am
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Quoting Danny Morgan
Not enough writing I meant, huge gaps around the rim. If you'd care to give me about twice as much writing...


Why didn't you ask me for more? Or use the mini-paragraph I had first supplied.

Never mind that, we'll talk on Gmail later today.
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| July 15, 2011, 4:37 am
Quoting Awesome-o-saurus The Not-So-Great

Why didn't you ask me for more? Or use the mini-paragraph I had first supplied.

Never mind that, we'll talk on Gmail later today.

Ok...

I only just made the symbol on Photoshop (with 1 hand) and before that I thought the short sentence was enough. Btw my gmail app isn't working at the moment, so the best way is to send the mini-paragraph through FM, or any other suggestions. Just remember the sentence I used is the perfect size, so try something around that length.
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| July 15, 2011, 5:40 am
Thinking of building a starport in (REDACTED BECAUSE LOLULTRA) to use as a jumping off point for Alpha Centauri.

Anyone got a few thousand nuclear warheads I can use as rocket fuel?
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| July 15, 2011, 8:34 am
Quoting |Brîan| C
Today, in France:

LandCom, AirCom and NavCom were completed today, and the French Military bought 300,000~ of them combined. At the cost of 300,000 USD, since each unit is 1,000 USD.
So each unit is $1?

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| July 15, 2011, 9:54 am
Quoting Ultramarine .
Either that or you make half the world mad while the other half you thought would back you up couldn't care less.

Or that could happen, but let's not think about that.
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| July 15, 2011, 10:10 am
Hey kiddies, admins, nyatzhees, and fratboys:

I'll be gone for today and part of tomorrow as I leave for a trip. I'll have internet tomorrow so don't get your hopes up Euros. Just keeping you informed.
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| July 15, 2011, 10:35 am
Yeah, I"m not going to be here starting on Sunday. Summer camp, at Sabbatis again.
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| July 15, 2011, 11:17 am
Quoting John Dawn
Yeah, I"m not going to be here starting on Sunday. Summer camp, at Sabbatis again.


Oh right, Sabattis is this week too. Have fun, I'm sure going to miss my misadventures at that place.(Like having a large rock thrown at me outside the store by a Vermont kid)
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| July 15, 2011, 11:29 am
Quoting Ham N' Biscuits

Oh right, Sabattis is this week too. Have fun, I'm sure going to miss my misadventures at that place.(Like having a large rock thrown at me outside the store by a Vermont kid)
ouch, I've have nothing to do there besides train new SPL's so I'm bringing a mountain bike, and maybe some "Non-scout appropriate" materials...

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| July 15, 2011, 11:47 am
Quoting John Dawn
"Non-scout appropriate" materials...

Knowing the scouts, that could be anything from Rated T video games to something I can't say on mocpages....
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| July 15, 2011, 11:58 am
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Today, in the USNA…

Things are…happening, and we’re waiting for other things to…happen. Impatiently, I might add.

The submarine damaged in the outrageous attack by Eastern Confederation aircraft has been patched up and made seaworthy again. She’ll be sailing from Houston to Corpus Christi later today for more complete repairs. The three vessels lost in that attack have been scoured for remains before the search for survivors was called off. Things aren’t looking good for antsy sailors looking to get back at the EC; it’s a good thing that the submarines responsible have already been reckoned with. In fact, impatience has been building in the services, populace, and Congress for some time. The President has assured the nation that any further aggressive actions perpetrated by the USNA’s neighbors (or anyone) would be dealt with in the most severe way imaginable and reasonably prosecutable. Some pundits have been criticizing the President for what they call “Weakness” and lack of affirmative action in the face of bare-faced aggression and violence.

For the situation in Europe, the President’s sympathies do not run with the Spaniards who have been most unreasonable in the past. We’d help out if we could against them, but our hands are kinda full right now. We highly ‘suggest’ that our neighbors not get too involved, but your lives be on your own heads.

The M91 ‘Marble’ was finally released to the public today (check out my “Weapons Locker” page for the pics). It is a short-range ballistic missile carrier of the Type I general purpose missile (0.1-5 kT yield) and the Type II ballistic anti-shipping missile (1 kT), both with a respectable range of 150 miles. The Type I carries warheads from HE to fuel-air. The Type II mounts a 1 kT uranium tipped warhead with a 0.1 second delayed detonation allows for a breech of the ship, and the warhead to rip the vessel apart from the inside. 1 kT would easily blow a super carrier to shreds, me thinkst. Both can also be silo launched; and the Type II can be fired at land targets, such as bunkers when necessary. The program was part of the proactive steps to prevent a successful amphibious invasion of the WR, and was continued when the USNA took over the defense budget. They are moderately vulnerable to Patriot missiles, at least in testing 6/10 were successfully intercepted. However, of the 6 units equipped with the Patriot missile systems on the continent, the USNA controls half of them. As a warning to possible intruders, all coastal areas of the USNA are reinforced with these missiles including Midway and Hawaii (stashed someplace safe, though).

M6 underwent its first airborne drill with the new M6 Norris ATLTs. In armored combat they were found to be reasonably effective, the only drawback being that they can’t fire while moving in most cases (that’s actually true, the S-tank is rather good in all aspects but that) but they are very difficult to hit, being only 2.2 meters tall. It serves its purpose: holding the line (or in most cases, advancing) long enough for the land forces to catch up. Since the heavy armor is at the front, the rear areas are ripe for the picking!

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| July 15, 2011, 12:20 pm
Quoting John Dawn
Yeah, I"m not going to be here starting on Sunday. Summer camp, at Sabbatis again.

Yeah, next sunday I have to go to Boy scout camp.

Whoopie.

/Sarcastic
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| July 15, 2011, 12:22 pm
Quoting Ultramarine .


What a fancy way of saying, "You can't invade me!" What stops every nation in the world from creating a program such as this one?
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| July 15, 2011, 2:30 pm
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Quoting Will G.


O.O Your reply is huge >.>
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| July 15, 2011, 2:48 pm
Quoting Matt Hacker

O.O Your reply is huge >.>

Fixed.
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| July 15, 2011, 3:28 pm
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>.> Be that way.

Today, 1.5...

In response to a special and strange request by the War Department, Congress has given the WD the authorization to classify the navy of the Eastern Confederation as a pirate entity. This is the first time that an organized military force has been so classified, and there is motive behind the madness. In so doing, Congress has allowed the USNA navy to enforce a boundary line for the EC navy of 200 nmi. from any coast of the USNA or RCA under the exclusive economic zone of the territorial waters restriction under the definition of pirates as "Commerce raiders". This because of the harassment of our shipping and the engagement of our navy a few short days ago. Hopefully, this will protect our merchant marine and fleets from further aggression of this type.
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| July 15, 2011, 8:26 pm
Quoting Will G.
What a fancy way of saying, "You can't invade me!" What stops every nation in the world from creating a program such as this one?

Wouldn't work on speedboats packed with commandos.

In other news:
a set of truly massive drag chutes have been fitted to the uberceptor, allowing the prototype to land on conventional runways. Can't take off from them, but it'll prevent any enemies from destroying them by bombing their airfields.
High command negotiations still stalled.
AALF angrily pointing out certain lacking elements in their equipment.
Emergency MSAM production continues. The design is semi-automated; the launchers can be set to automatically shoot down anything detected by their radar without needing authorization from their operators.
Mmm, landmines.
Battleships continue steaming in ferocious circles.
Frontline combat units mobilizing in case of vicious unprovoked democratic imperialist aggression.
Local economy boosted thanks to the recent influx of Uzbek plunder.
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| July 15, 2011, 9:24 pm
Quoting Evan Melick
Dunno what the heck yer'all having issues about. I treat my week at Rotary as vacation. I love the woods. :3

I treat ANY outing that way. Time to get away from my family, school, stress and stuff like that.
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| July 15, 2011, 9:26 pm
Quoting Evan Melick
Dunno what the heck yer'all having issues about. I treat my week at Rotary as vacation. I love the woods. :3

This will be my second week this summer at boy scout camp, third at camp in general, and fifth week I'm gone. I'm tired.
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| July 15, 2011, 9:50 pm
Quoting Ultramarine .
>.> Be that way.

Today, 1.5...

In response to a special and strange request by the War Department, Congress has given the WD the authorization to classify the navy of the Eastern Confederation as a pirate entity. This is the first time that an organized military force has been so classified, and there is motive behind the madness. In so doing, Congress has allowed the USNA navy to enforce a boundary line for the EC navy of 200 nmi. from any coast of the USNA or RCA under the exclusive economic zone of the territorial waters restriction under the definition of pirates as "Commerce raiders". This because of the harassment of our shipping and the engagement of our navy a few short days ago. Hopefully, this will protect our merchant marine and fleets from further aggression of this type.

How about no, my ships will go wherever they please, sinking another one of my ships will be taken as an act of war. Your actions have now landed the WC Navy in the same position, any USNA ships within 200 miles of my border will also be sunk, international waters or your own.

Too bad neither of us can actually enforce these ridiculous claims because we have no combat mods at all. I really don't want to wait for a report once a week, it's summer for crying out loud, you should all have plenty of time unless you are old enough to have a job.

The end, at least for this group, is nigh. Some of us don't want to release economic reports and non-player controlled nation combat reports all the time.
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| July 15, 2011, 10:01 pm
lolAmericanPirates.

TODAY, IN THE UNION:

The Ministry of Defense has stated that any attack on our sovereign territories will be met with the heaviest retaliation possible.

The third Moriya took off from [REDACTED] today.

The Union Senate formally passed a law that has gone followed but unwritten since the inception of the Union. Beginning today, animal shelters are no longer allowed to euthanize animals unless there is no helping them, and it is to aid their pain. Animal Cruelty has been made a near-capital punishment to animals that aren't food, and the Ministry of Agriculture has toughened its inspections.
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| July 15, 2011, 10:24 pm
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Quoting Will G.
How about no, my ships will go wherever they please, sinking another one of my ships will be taken as an act of war. Your actions have now landed the WC Navy in the same position, any USNA ships within 200 miles of my border will also be sunk, international waters or your own.

Who said anything about sinking? Forcefully extricating was more like it. Or, heaven forbid, I know, but it might do something to keep you OUT. Shocking that I might think that you'd be reasonable. Hmm, must run in the Axis, that is why you joined, isn't it?

Probably 75% of my Gulf fleet is within your precious (and totally false, but I'll get to that later) barrier that you just decided was suddenly enforceable by you... So, I'll look forward to your visit, no?

It apparently exceeds your power of reasoning how our territorial waters and exclusive economic zones would work. I shall educate you. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:EEZ-USA.png Look closely, you might learn something, eh?

Quoting Will G.
Too bad neither of us can actually enforce these ridiculous claims because we have no combat mods at all. I really don't want to wait for a report once a week, it's summer for crying out loud, you should all have plenty of time unless you are old enough to have a job.

You're in for a big surprise. John Moffatt is the CM for our little phony war.

Ridiculous? Yours are ridiculous. I'm not the one telling you that I'm gonna come and kill your ships in your waters 'cause I arbitrarily decided to. Mine's legal (Show me where it isn't, and I'll take it back), yours isn't in the slightest.

Quoting Will G.
The end, at least for this group, is nigh. Some of us don't want to release economic reports and non-player controlled nation combat reports all the time.

Your problem, not ours.
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| July 15, 2011, 10:47 pm
Quoting Ultramarine about me being unreasonable .

I'm not reasonable? You do realize that we share a border, and that I have ships within 200 miles of you nation regardless if they are trolling you or not. I find you to be rather unreasonable here. If you payed attention to the actual nations and not the Axis as a whole, you'd see we're not all moron|c trolls or blithering |diots. In fact, you have, on three separate occasions now, wrongly called me out.
Example one: The subs, I have the capacity and have taken enough time to produce eight of my subs.
Example two: The ships and planes, you accused me of not being able to have so many LCS and F-35's, however, if you really paid attention to details, you'd know how I ended up with my numbers.
Example 3: You claim I am unreasonable because I did not wish to comply with your order to make my Navy stay at least 200 miles from your nation at all times. This is absolutely impossible unless you actually believe I'd forfeit my nation's security just to meet your demands.

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| July 16, 2011, 12:27 am
Quoting Ultramarine .

John Moffatt is rarely active.
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| July 16, 2011, 12:28 am
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Quoting Will G.
John Moffatt is rarely active.


He joined this group for the sole purpose of Combat Modding this conflict. Lets face it, there are no in group options left.
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| July 16, 2011, 12:33 am
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Quoting Will G.
Example 3: You claim I am unreasonable because I did not wish to comply with your order to make my Navy stay at least 200 miles from your nation at all times.

When did I say that? If you paid more attention to detail, you'd have properly interpreted that the first time. Re-read it, I don't have the time to teach you. Look at the map, come back when you're finished.

The others were reasonable executions of my duties as a mod to check the realism (that unfortunately needs to be double and triple checked with many in your party). Got a problem? File it with the complaints department, thank you.
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| July 16, 2011, 12:48 am
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Quoting Ultramarine .


"What must an Ultramarine do to save his realism?"

"Instead ask yourself, what would someone playing a game do?"
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| July 16, 2011, 1:05 am
Hey Awe, can you send the Latin mini-paragraph through FM? Unless of course you're happy with the current Axis phrase.
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| July 16, 2011, 1:23 am
Aircraft recovered from Uzbekistan have been patched up and restored to flying condition, and as a result, I now have sufficient MiG-29s to make returning them to front-line service practical. Naturally, training is focused on overwhelming the enemy through sheer weight of ordinance. Sooner or later a true air superiority fighter will come off the drawing boards, but for the time being, the land forces have priority.
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| July 16, 2011, 10:53 am
There have been rumors spreading around that F-303 proto-types have already been created. We neither confirm nor deny the existence of said aircraft; however we do state that we are creating a fighter interceptor with such a name to replace the F-302.

Construction of 3 amphibious assault ships and 1 battlecruiser has been completed. The London-Class assault ship will be revealed shortly later today.
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| July 16, 2011, 1:55 pm
Oh goodie, the CR isn't out so I don't have to rush orders for the next one. I passed several EC military bases on the way, and got a good look at one of the Nimitz's at Norfolk. Not sure which, wasn't close enough to see the number >.>
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| July 16, 2011, 4:23 pm
Quoting Ham N' Biscuits

Andrew is on vacation; won't be a CR out until at least next week.
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| July 16, 2011, 4:33 pm
Egypt is back.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M3Zad5_eWVA /trollface

Sudan proper has been secured, after a few urban battles and airstrikes in which the poorly trained and equipped Sudanese army was shocked and awed into submission. Institution of a royal governor followed. It is now a state of the Kingdom of Egypt.

Stats updates are coming. So far, 200 Hyperfalcons have been converted into Hyperfalcon IIs, and 6 new destroyers have been completed. More of our other, older vessels have also been completed- their construction was ordered months ago. We were taking our sweet old time until the Pharaoh ordered things to be sped up as the tensions were increasing around the world.

The Islamic Defense Union gathered today to formally invite the new government of glorious Persia to share in an economic and military alliance with us. We see an extremely bright future with them.

Egypt is mobilizing its military forces in response to the ridiculous and somewhat unpleasant current European conflict. The Pharaoh and the leaders of IDU member states are gathering to discuss if action is necessary, and if so, what course of action.
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| July 16, 2011, 5:37 pm
Quoting henry wang
Andrew is on vacation; won't be a CR out until at least next week.


Oh good, now I can enjoy mine.
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| July 16, 2011, 6:45 pm
Quoting Kaiser Pharaoh Cliffe

Yo, Dawg, please do me a solid and check yo FM bro. Word.
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| July 16, 2011, 9:33 pm
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The Union State recently sold 200 AIEVs, 2 Tu-160s, and one of our Mistral-class vessels to Persia. Along with this large sale and our technological cooperation discussed privately, our relationship is looking quite bright. And with such light, we've also created a pact with both Persia and Byzantium known as the International Cooperative for Middle Eastern Affairs. The ICMEA is a loosely-knit pact that is essentially the regional counterpart to the IDU and will help with future ventures in the area. It will evolve over time to better accommodate each nation's interests in response to global affairs that may stray into our field of control. More news later.

Anyhow, utilizing the moneys coming from the aforementioned arms sales, we will be purchasing a single Acheron-class vessel from Byzantium to replace the lost Mistral. Once the ship comes into our hands, we'll make modifications as deemed fit so it can better serve our doctrine of action. We look forward to this addition to our navy.
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| July 17, 2011, 12:08 am
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Today, in the USNA...

The first operational squadron of B-4 Overlords has been raised, basing out of Peterson AFB. Also, the M77 Carbine has been released (the IFV I said was being produced some time ago) and will replace the M76 Ratel in the USNA army and marine corps. Though it is not amphibious, it has a respectable fording depth that should take care of most terrains.

Israel picked up the red line to the War Department this afternoon over rumors of IDU and Iranian diplomats starting negotiations. A nation that refuses to acknowledge (and has voiced a desire to recreate) the holocaust joining a Muslim theocratic nation is very alarming to Israel. It is unclear, though the options are certainly on the table, whether or not Israel will take proactive steps to keep Iranian nuclear, chemical, and biological weapons from falling into hostile hands.

The War Department and Space Command in Nebraska have confirmed that Savior III has taken its station over Europe for the protection of the coalition nations against the possibility of axis ballistic missiles. This satellite can certainly carry out first to third party defense, so don't get any fancy ideas that you can just knock it down like a comm satellite...
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| July 17, 2011, 12:09 am
Quoting Dr. Spontaneous
The Union State recently sold 200 AIEVs, 2 Tu-160s, and one of our Mistral-class vessels to Persia.

The last time I checked, Iran was in an unmitigated state of chaos due to extensive damage sustained in the abortive Saudi invasion.

As a result, the selling of advanced military equipment to it isn't exactly responsible behaviour.
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| July 17, 2011, 8:27 am
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Quoting Areetsa C
As a result, the selling of advanced military equipment to it isn't exactly responsible behaviour.


Operating an uncontrolled terrorist group, err, "intelligence agency" is also not the most responsible thing either.
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| July 17, 2011, 5:50 pm
Quoting Matt Hacker
Operating an uncontrolled terrorist group, err, "intelligence agency" is also not the most responsible thing either.

They're only running amok at the moment because SOME bright spark decided to off the only politician they respected enough to obey. The OVB's loyalties are based on merit and their own twisted view of authority, and the fact that no-one's yet managed to grab the reins of power means they won't listen to ANY of the candidates.

And for the record, "terrorism", defined here as the playing of civilians on the permitted target list, is only authorized for use on the WC at the moment due to their actions. Collateral damage is normal, but intentional attacks on civilians require special authorization from the Director himself.
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| July 17, 2011, 8:05 pm
Hey could some EuroLeague member tell Cliffe that they're basically at war with him too?
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| July 17, 2011, 9:02 pm
Quoting Ham N' Biscuits

Technically we are not at war with Cliffe; however, if he were to declare war on us then we would be in a state of war with him.
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| July 17, 2011, 9:46 pm
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Quoting henry wang
Quoting Ham N' Biscuits

Technically we are not at war with Cliffe; however, if he were to declare war on us then we would be in a state of war with him.


So, shooting down one of his satellites was just some friendly destruction of property and equipment?
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| July 17, 2011, 9:59 pm
 Group moderator 
Today, in the USNA...

The M77 (http://www.mocpages.com/moc.php/280621) has been introduced into service with 150 being rolled off (I'm obliged to say that since I announced its production over a week ago) and put in with the tank corps.

Also, you've undoubtedly seen the B-4 Overlord, so not much will be said about it that was already.

Quoting Areetsa C
They're only running amok at the moment because SOME bright spark decided to off the only politician they respected enough to obey.

You rang?

Quoting Awesome-o-saurus The Not-So-Great

So, shooting down one of his satellites was just some friendly destruction of property and equipment?

Apparently, that's not a cause for war.

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| July 17, 2011, 10:08 pm
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Quoting Awesome-o-saurus The Not-So-Great

So, shooting down one of his satellites was just some friendly destruction of property and equipment?


The actions of Byzantium are not representative to the rest of the European Coalition's intentions, and, as such, should be considered exclusively representative to Byzantium.
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| July 17, 2011, 10:09 pm
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Quoting Matt Hacker

The actions of Byzantium are not representative to the rest of the European Coalition's intentions, and, as such, should be considered exclusively representative to Byzantium.


I see. Well, doesn't matter to me, I'll be fighting all of Euroco anyways.

Quoting Ultramarine .
Apparently, that's not a cause for war.


Apparently not with some folk.
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| July 17, 2011, 10:14 pm
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Quoting Awesome-o-saurus The Not-So-Great

I see. Well, doesn't matter to me, I'll be fighting all of Euroco anyways.


That depends if another CR comes out.
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| July 17, 2011, 10:15 pm
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Quoting Matt Hacker
That depends if another CR comes out.


What have you got up your sleeve this time...
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| July 17, 2011, 10:23 pm
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Quoting Awesome-o-saurus The Not-So-Great

What have you got up your sleeve this time...


Since the orders were due days ago, I feel that its safe to reveal what I am doing.

-Counterinsurgency in Burma
-Mobile defense in Spain/France
-Goin' RSR in the Atlantic.

The heavy hitters are Tom, Evan, and Henry, and frankly, I haven't been bothered to read their plans in the Euro group. It will be a surprise for me as well.
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| July 17, 2011, 10:25 pm
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Quoting Matt Hacker

Since the orders were due days ago, I feel that its safe to reveal what I am doing.

-Counterinsurgency in Burma
-Mobile defense in Spain/France
-Goin' RSR in the Atlantic.

The heavy hitters are Tom, Evan, and Henry, and frankly, I haven't been bothered to read their plans in the Euro group. It will be a surprise for me as well.


How do you do mobile defense while on the attack?

And that's nice to know, I'll keep that information in mind for later.

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| July 17, 2011, 10:27 pm
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Quoting Awesome-o-saurus The Not-So-Great

How do you do mobile defense while on the attack?



You will see soon enough.

Do you wish to shed light on your orders as well?
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| July 17, 2011, 10:34 pm
Quoting Awesome-o-saurus The Not-So-Great
How do you do mobile defense while on the attack?

Well, it's not that hard. You just arrange things so every unit above the size of, oh, a platoon has its own artillery and anti-air vehicles. After that, it's just bounding overwatch; companies #1 and #2 set up to provide cover, companies #3 and #4 move forwards to a new position, set themselves up, companies #1 and #2 move past them, set up, wash, rinse, repeat.
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| July 17, 2011, 10:41 pm
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Quoting Matt Hacker

You will see soon enough.

Do you wish to shed light on your orders as well?


I'll let you see for yourself.

Quoting Areetsa C
Well, it's not that hard. You just arrange things so every unit above the size of, oh, a platoon has its own artillery and anti-air vehicles. After that, it's just bounding overwatch; companies #1 and #2 set up to provide cover, companies #3 and #4 move forwards to a new position, set themselves up, companies #1 and #2 move past them, set up, wash, rinse, repeat.


Oh, that makes sense.
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| July 17, 2011, 10:53 pm
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Quoting Awesome-o-saurus The Not-So-Great
I'll let you see for yourself.


It likely involves something that we have planned for, so bring it on.

For the defense, that is not how I am using my forces.
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| July 17, 2011, 10:59 pm
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Quoting Awesome-o-saurus The Not-So-Great

I'll let you see for yourself.

Ranks right up there with something that was supposed to happen over a week ago. It involves your troops not being where you intended them to be. >.>
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| July 17, 2011, 11:10 pm
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Quoting Ultramarine .
Ranks right up there with something that was supposed to happen over a week ago. It involves your troops not being where you intended them to be. >.>


Moving my own forces for me, is that what you're implying? I hope we're all mature enough RPers to know that god-moding is not okay.

Otherwise... I'm not sure how my troops can end up in places I don't want them to be, unless you're directly interfering with mah boiz.

Oh, how I wish we had a CM that didn't go on trips and was a social recluse like me...
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| July 17, 2011, 11:35 pm
For the record:
IU ground forces entered Cambodian territory with literally no resistance, thanks to the incredibly fast operation to take out the nation's rebel leaders / instigators. An A12 Demon spotted some possible militant activity further inland. IU called upon the Cambodian's own puppet government to deal with the threat, so as to test the previously hostile nation's loyalty to the IU.
They passed the test, ordering military police to lockdown the militant hotspot and arrest all those involved. The hotspot soon became a firefight almost the instant the military police stepped in. After 5 casualties on the police's side, 4 civilian casualties caught in the line of fire, and little progress made on capturing/killing the militia members, the IU relented, and told the Cambodian military that they would deal with the threat. The Police were ordered to retreat and take any civilians they could out of the danger zone. No sooner than they had, an A7 Stormhawk flew low over, and dropped a gravity bomb over the green zone, killing all the rebels and causing only one civilian death, whom had been shot in his leg and probably wasn't long for this world.

Ok, Evan can paint Cambodia D.green next time he updates the map.
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| July 17, 2011, 11:59 pm
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