I didn't make this thread, but what is it for?
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Alright. Just spoke with Erik, and frankly, he's so bogged down with AP and IB stuff, that really it's impossible for him to do anything internet. So, vis-a-vis, no CR anytime soon.

Now, the entire world in enveloped in this war, so it makes it a sticky situation. Activity is down (no doubt due to the lack of forward progress, not that that is Erik's fault).

So, this thread is for y'all to suggest where you might want to go from here. Some things in my mind include:

1) Continue as per normal, find new CM's. No idea how that'll work, or if this group is active enough to survive.
2) Abandon this group and completely head over to 1882/1982. Activity in all three groups is fairly low, no doubt due to school and other IRL things. Personally, as I've said, I prefer modern-near future time for this game, so I dislike this option, but, whatevz.
3) Reboot the 2030's era group for the fourth time, and start over from scratch, hopefully trying to not turn into giant alliance bloc havoc that this did. Or it can, as I said, up to y'all. Tom is the only on of the "oldies" per se that hasn't had a chance to take charge of a new group, so my idea would be to leave it to him. Don't know if he's active though.
4) Whether we are staying on MOCpages or moving to Flickr.
5) Insert and of your guys' ideas here.

So, I hand it over to anyone who is still active. I just want to throw it out there, that if we do decide to move on to another group, whether it be modern time, 2030's, Cold War, w/e, I don't plan to ask or accept any mod or admin positions.

Also, last point. I don't know about the rest of y'all, but I do really enjoy these shenanigans we've got, so I'd hate to see it whither up and die. No matter what happens, we need to get more people involved. People who would be interested in what I think to be the best set-up "faction group" if you will out there, people who are actually interested in joining and maintaining a country in this cold hearted world of online lego nerd-dom.

Anywho, that's it for me. Look forward to what y'all have to say.
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@ Matt, had to mod my own comment. Read ze big post.
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As for the CM positions, and I say this in slight ignorance because this is the first time I've actually touched MP in about ten days, but both of the wars seem isolated to players on their respective continents. So, a Euro could do the American CR and vice-versa. Of course I anticipate y'all saying there would be unfair aspects to this, it's really the only way to get reliable CMs that offer progress. Evan seems to have a sh-- load of time nowadays because he's all /lolcollegegaiz, so y'all should totally pester him to some stuff. loljk. Don't do that. But really, do it.

Anyhow, I sincerely apologize for my incompetence as a CM. Even during the summer when there was more available time, I was unable to fulfill my duties as promised, so fell free to smear me if you haven't already. With that aside, I'd like to thank you for your patience even though I wasn't able to amply repay it. Wuvvers you guys. <3
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I think that we should move to flickr, where there are more active and talented 2030s era builders, start advertizing it over there, and continue our "Shenanigans" over there.

Thats my two cents, now i'm broke.
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Reboot
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Restart and continuing the tradition of mocpages.
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Aww, we wuves you too!

Actually, I think that's a good idea. I could mod the Euro conflict and related areas. I haven't had any complaints with Ham, so yeah. On my honor, I would not attempt to repay the incompetence shown by the aforementioned party during that person's modding of my conflict...

Also, I think Evan or Matt would make a good replacement. I like the way you've been doing it, where you're actually willing to change things if given a truly logical reason without having to pull teeth and make a big deal about it.

On the other hand, I do have a possible line on an outsider for a CM from our cousin group, Conflict. He seems to be ok, and we hardly know each other, so it's not like he's predisposed towards me or anything.

I'm in favor of keeping this group & finding new CMs. I'm sternly opposed to this "Hey, this group is slowing down, let's go elsewhere" habit that I see developing. Once the going gets tough, we quit. I really want to see this one through this time.
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Matt is currently pinned down in APUSH and Chemistry, and Evan is in college. Sadly, there is no one left to mod in this group, but if you can find a reliable mod in your other group I would be happy to stay.
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I greatly agree. Although it's always fun to hop around to a new place and play around with few restrictions for some time due to the available resources in a new theme, it all goes back to the game of predictable blocs (this isn't a slam at anyone, mind you lot, because I'm guilty of it too). Although I won't be able to CM, I do have some long-term goals I'd like to see achieved when I have spurts of free time and I'd hate to have to reboot time and time again.
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Not gonna happen, sorry. Matt's mental status is slowly deteriorating due to junior year normalcy, and between ROTC and 20 hours of interning a week, I don't have the time.
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You fib, sir! You fib enormously!
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Sorry for being blunt, but I really don't have the time nor energy to write more. If this group dies, I'm not going to move onto a new one for a considerable time. I would be glad to continue in this group, but if this is the end of this group, then farewell everyone...
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Give me Western Hemisphere. I need something to busy myself with.
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>.> I'm in collage too...

But, I understand how busy it can get. It's been positively ridiculous this week.

I'm grooming a replacement, but I don't know if he'll come through. I hope he does. Alas, however, I would gladly immerse myself in another group. I just hate how every time I go to war, something blows up. This war would have been over in March if it weren't for that...no matter the victor.
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You are very lucky; however, after the debacle that was our modding tenure Ultra will most likely never accept you to be mod again.
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Yeah, no thanks. I don't want to lose my fleet AGAIN to ridiculousness.
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I would mod except that reports would come out once a week and I only would accept short, concise, and bulleted orders. Not, the huge and complex orders that required multiple reports.
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I'm in favor of all options.

As for power blocs, the only person I team up with again and again is Nick, because we have a bond forged in fire and adversity. >.> Otherwise, I team up with/fight with anyone. Cliffe, Brendan, Erik, Dawn, Areetsa, Gober, even Ultra. However, my interests have just happened to align with Cliffe and co's side a little more than Ultra and co's.
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I don't think I'd be very biased this time around as Nick has done nothing for me while I've produced weapons for him in previous wars. >.>
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I'm personally in favor of restricting ANY of you from making alliances with each other. YOU might only make an alliance with Nick, but Cliffe and Ham like Nick, and they team up. So, we'll end up with the same arrangement that we have now. Unless, that is, it's even remotely logical like US & England, US & Israel, or something like that. Instead, we have part of the US, China, Egypt, and Spain. They would not be likely to team up with each other let alone all together.

Just saying, I'm thinking of some serious regulations regarding that. It will be the only way to stop it.


Well, anything to get this going again. On one ground rule only; your CR is entirely reversible if obvious bias is present.

Actually, it might be counterproductive if I'm the European CM...
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Which is a dumb idea that sucks the fun out of the group.

Sorry. But limiting people's alliances to something that makes sense IRL is no more than needless regulation for the sake of needless regulation.
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Well, then nothing is going to change, and the ENTIRE world is going to be embroiled in a war AGAIN. You realize that, right?
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Not necessarily. If enough new people join who are unfamiliar with the traditional alliance blocs, it becomes a moot point. And, throughout three groups, the only alliance that has maintained itself through and through is Nick and Awe, for obvious reasons. I for one in the next group do not intend on joining or forming any alliance bloc. Nor did I intend on doing so in this group until I lashed out against the Axis.
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To keep to traditional alliances is unrealistic, in fact. France and Germany used to be bitter enemies starting in the Napoleonic wars. Where are they now, 60 years after WW2? NATO members, EU members, and close allies.
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Mhm. Well, I suppose so. The only person I've been solid allies with in the last two groups is Jack. So yeah.
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The only given is that I will lend moral support to Nick, and back him on the international scene. Like America and Israel. Or Iran and Hezbollah.
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Two questions:

1) Would I be able to start as a PMC in the next group if we do move?

2) For later smaller conflicts could I be a CM, I've always wanted to give it a try.
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Don't see why not. Up to whoever the admin would be.
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Don't worry gents, Nick Shelton is not going to be the ruler of the Union after this group reaches its end. This one is shooting for newer countries.

However, since there must always be a (Stark) Hood/Brooks/Shelton in (Winterfell) Portland, it is thought that our own John Hood is re-taking command of the operation. Hurrah!
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dibs on Britain next group
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It is known. Hood's making a return to Portland. Hopefully, if Ultra is near, his more level-headed ness won't lead to another disaster.
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Hey, I always dwell peacefully with those that are content to dwell peacefully with me. I don't attack neighbors without provocation. My track record proves it. Not counting the cease-fire, but apparently to everyone other than me, it's the same war.
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I hope to play an American nation next go, so, this shall be funzies.

So, any more ideas on where to go from here?
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I say we stay on the pages, no matter what.
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I agree, we ought to stay here. I've already got too much stuff up here.
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>.>
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orly?

I was content to dwell peacefully with you, only you decided to attack me because I told Finn to stop being such an imperialist and taking nations right next to me. Also in the other group you attacked India (my nation) and said you were planning to crush the last of (me), and I didn't do anything to you and was perfectly content to dwell peacefully with you!

I am not content to dwell peacefully with you anymore, and I think your track record shows I do so with good reason. Maybe I'm not going to be the victim in the next group? maybe I will attack you first? who knows.
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ONWARDS1!1!1!111!
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I still rather continue with the current group but m fine if u guys wanna create a new group...
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Now I've got to think about what to play, seeing as I've already played an American faction and a European faction. Note to self: Be more aggressive in upgrades and expansion.
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I'm probably going to play as a more moderate and democratic People's Republic of China, either that or the RoC.

@Danny
An imperialist is not one who tries to negotiate with a nation peacefully(Finn). It is one who invades and attacks(You). Also in the other group, he is Britain. He needs to maintain his empire for historical purposes. What do you expect him to do role over and give India to you? If it weren't for historical purposes I would have invaded Hong Kong once he sent his fleet away. Plus who was the one who started a rebellion?
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Hello my children it's good to see you all again!

Yes, it is I, your benevolent friend and colleague, Tom, here with news to thaw those freezing hearts!

Should we want to start a new group, the helm will be held by yours truly. I will also need to appoint a Mod staff (and maybe even a co-Admin), but I'll figure that out...

In fact, I already have a group description and group rules saved to a word document on my laptop, so all I'm waiting for is the word: "GO" to make an entirely new group for everyone.


Also, sorry for not being very active recently. If you had told me back in May that roughly 80% of my internet time in June, July, August, September, etc. would be devoted to My Little Pony: Friendship is Magic, I wouldn't have believed you... But then again, that's life I suppose...
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As a moderator, I must warn you to keep conversations in their proper groups, thank you.

And you're not a neighbor of mine. Notice I said that as a qualifier. There WAS that unfortunate incident with China in the last group, but not trusting my northern neighbors at the time, I decided the less of China they had the better.
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Change that to April, May, June, July August, and September, and you have my life. Also, GO.
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lol is he paying you or something?

I'm not going to bother repeating what has been said many months ago and for the purpose of not continuing a pointless flame war, but it sounds to me like you missed a lot. I'd suggest going back and rereading.

and "roll (not role...) over and give India to me? I am India, you expect ME to roll over and give India to him? How about no.
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Now, I'm not going to argue with you about the war and I'm not saying being imperialist is bad. But, what is bad is trashing someone for doing something then turning around and doing it yourself. That's called being a hypocrite and currently you are heading towards that because you trash Finn by calling him a greedy imperialist, then you go ahead and gobble up a bunch of countries.

Well if you want to debate me about the other group I'll be happy to take you up on your offer in the other group.
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Tom,can I start as a PMC?

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