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That's...pretty gross...and sad. :(
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| May 26, 2011, 9:48 pm
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Quoting Legion of Doom
Once upon a time, there was a missionary on a South Pacific island. World War I had recently ended, and he was telling the local chief how after millions upon millions of people had died, his country had finally prevailed.

Because meat was scarce in those tiny islands, and there was no room for graveyards, it had been the custom of the islanders for time out of mind to eat their dead. So naturally, the chief nodded appreciatively. "Ah, your people must have had a great victory feast," he said.

The missionary quickly assured the chief that his people did not eat their dead. It was wrong.

The chief was horrified. "You mean you let all that perfectly good meat go to waste?"

Why did you tell us that? I'm not upset but its just kinda random.
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| May 27, 2011, 12:32 pm
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Quoting Legion of Doom

My best friend told me this story to make a point, and it got me thinking.

He said the reason most people are the religion they are is only because that's what their parents raised them to believe. My guess is that's especially true of you younger people. If your parents had been Muslims, you'd be Muslim. If your parents had been cannibals on a tropical island, you'd be a cannibal on a tropical island. And you'd be just as sure it was right and proper as you are now that Christ is Lord.

I didn't really know how to respond to that. I was not raised as a Christian, I came to my faith independently, but all I could do was admit that he had a point.

I should say that even though we don't agree with each other's spiritual beliefs, we respect each other, and we're both philosophical types, so we have a lot of discussions about our faiths. He is probably smarter than me, or at least he's a much better debater, and he often puts me in a position where I'm a bit speechless. Much more often than I can do that to him.

So I was just wondering what anyone thought of this story. I believe God gave us brains because He wants us to use them.

Its hard when we get in tight situations like that. I have gotten into debates with my friends. I usually try to look like I know what I 'm saying and try to sound smart. :P
Some arguments I get into are with people who take debate classes. Its hard cause they know how to do it and I don't.

I guess if I get in a spiritual debate, it will probably end with me saying "I believe in my thing and you believe in yours. I don't agree with your point of view but I won't force my opinion."
Sometimes its hard to admit that we don't really know what we're talking about. (Well, we do, we just don't know how to voice them)
But if we just stand by our beliefs we should be fine.

So thats my sermon of the day. :D
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| May 27, 2011, 3:57 pm
Quoting Legion of Doom

My best friend told me this story to make a point, and it got me thinking.

He said the reason most people are the religion they are is only because that's what their parents raised them to believe. My guess is that's especially true of you younger people. If your parents had been Muslims, you'd be Muslim. If your parents had been cannibals on a tropical island, you'd be a cannibal on a tropical island. And you'd be just as sure it was right and proper as you are now that Christ is Lord.

I didn't really know how to respond to that. I was not raised as a Christian, I came to my faith independently, but all I could do was admit that he had a point.

I should say that even though we don't agree with each other's spiritual beliefs, we respect each other, and we're both philosophical types, so we have a lot of discussions about our faiths. He is probably smarter than me, or at least he's a much better debater, and he often puts me in a position where I'm a bit speechless. Much more often than I can do that to him.

So I was just wondering what anyone thought of this story. I believe God gave us brains because He wants us to use them.

Thats interesting. My mother is Christian mostly. So when I was younger, I believed in all I was told about god and Jesus. But, as I learned how to use my mind more, I started questioning all that I had been raised to believe in. I saw that the best way to live is to have an open mind. So I let go to one Religion, and I believed in portions of different forms of beliefs. The thing is is that, I've traveled around the world. Ive been to Muslim Temples in Turkey. Ive been to a Shoshone Native American Sun Dance (Which was private). Ive been to Christian churches. I live in Clearwater which hosts the International Scientology Headquarters. So I get plenty of that too. I know many Buddhists and I study Hinduism and Buddhism.

I've learned so much about so many things. That is my true point of joining here. I wanted to show that you can gain more knowledge by letting go of a single Religion, and at least try to open up. If you do not fit into something else, then return to your old beliefs. Also, my cousin is a Roman Catholic Deacon. It is so marvelous that divinity and belief is cast into so many forms in only a single world. But back to the beginning: Religion has only survived through Family and whichever belief your country or Kingdom (referring to older times)revolves around. Also, my only point is that Christians are very certain in their beliefs which is arrogant since God keeps so many secrets. One secret is the secret of truth. I believe that proof cannot be gained unless you know all the knowledge possible. Yet, God has not granted us all knowledge because he sees how destructive humans are. Thats why knowledge is so powerful.
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| May 27, 2011, 7:17 pm
I never said I believed in two masters. I dont know why you said that. Point being, that quote is wrong, the Greeks served 12 gods for thousands of years. They did not despize one over the other.
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| May 30, 2011, 9:45 pm
but the greeks faith was wrong.
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| June 1, 2011, 12:46 pm
Why do we believe anything?

I am a Christian because that's how I was brought up. But you can be brought up in a church all your life, and if you've no conviction in it, you won't be a Christian. You'll be someone who goes to church.

Point I'm trying to make is, you can believe in what you want, but having faith in it is a very different thing. Not sure where I was going with that... but it's an interesting point - I think!
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| August 20, 2011, 12:43 pm
Quoting Rahkshi Party
I think the Greek's faith was wrong.

And what if I were to say that the Christian Faith is wrong? It could be just as wrong...
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| October 12, 2011, 11:08 pm
It's sad that the last time somebody wrote in this group was last Wednesday.....
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| October 14, 2011, 5:12 pm
Quoting Matthew Novosad
And what if I were to say that the Christian Faith is wrong? It could be just as wrong...
I am not going to get in another argument with you, but based on my observations you like starting arguments and/or debates.

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| October 15, 2011, 1:21 pm
Quoting Rahkshi Party
Quoting Matthew Novosad
And what if I were to say that the Christian Faith is wrong? It could be just as wrong...
I am not going to get in another argument with you, but based on my observations you like starting arguments and/or debates.


What one person says is 'wrong' Another person could say is right. The only true authority for Christians is the Bible. As this is a Christian group, why is the Greek faith being mentioned?
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| October 19, 2011, 11:53 am
Quoting Mark E
Quoting Blewitup1 or Ben G
Thats interesting. My mother is Christian mostly. So when I was younger, I believed in all I was told about god and Jesus. But, as I learned how to use my mind more, I started questioning all that I had been raised to believe in. I saw that the best way to live is to have an open mind. So I let go to one Religion, and I believed in portions of different forms of beliefs. The thing is is that, I've traveled around the world. Ive been to Muslim Temples in Turkey. Ive been to a Shoshone Native American Sun Dance (Which was private). Ive been to Christian churches. I live in Clearwater which hosts the International Scientology Headquarters. So I get plenty of that too. I know many Buddhists and I study Hinduism and Buddhism.

I've learned so much about so many things. That is my true point of joining here. I wanted to show that you can gain more knowledge by letting go of a single Religion, and at least try to open up. If you do not fit into something else, then return to your old beliefs. Also, my cousin is a Roman Catholic Deacon. It is so marvelous that divinity and belief is cast into so many forms in only a single world. But back to the beginning: Religion has only survived through Family and whichever belief your country or Kingdom (referring to older times)revolves around. Also, my only point is that Christians are very certain in their beliefs which is arrogant since God keeps so many secrets. One secret is the secret of truth. I believe that proof cannot be gained unless you know all the knowledge possible. Yet, God has not granted us all knowledge because he sees how destructive humans are. Thats why knowledge is so powerful.

Matthew 6:24

No man can serve two masters; for either he will hate the one, and love the other; or else he will hold to one, and despise the other. Ye cannot serve God and mammon.

My point here is that you can't serve two masters and expect to please both of them.




I'm glad somebody is using scripture.
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| October 19, 2011, 11:54 am
Quoting Blewitup1 or Ben G
Thats interesting. My mother is Christian mostly. So when I was younger, I believed in all I was told about god and Jesus. But, as I learned how to use my mind more, I started questioning all that I had been raised to believe in. I saw that the best way to live is to have an open mind. So I let go to one Religion, and I believed in portions of different forms of beliefs. The thing is is that, I've traveled around the world. Ive been to Muslim Temples in Turkey. Ive been to a Shoshone Native American Sun Dance (Which was private). Ive been to Christian churches. I live in Clearwater which hosts the International Scientology Headquarters. So I get plenty of that too. I know many Buddhists and I study Hinduism and Buddhism.

I've learned so much about so many things. That is my true point of joining here. I wanted to show that you can gain more knowledge by letting go of a single Religion, and at least try to open up. If you do not fit into something else, then return to your old beliefs. Also, my cousin is a Roman Catholic Deacon. It is so marvelous that divinity and belief is cast into so many forms in only a single world. But back to the beginning: Religion has only survived through Family and whichever belief your country or Kingdom (referring to older times)revolves around. Also, my only point is that Christians are very certain in their beliefs which is arrogant since God keeps so many secrets. One secret is the secret of truth. I believe that proof cannot be gained unless you know all the knowledge possible. Yet, God has not granted us all knowledge because he sees how destructive humans are. Thats why knowledge is so powerful.




God does give us proof if you look at history and archeology, but we realy have to belive, not just know. Many people could have the Cristian faith laid right out in front of them completly understandable, but if they didn't want to believe it they would just simply say "True for you, but not for me."
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| October 19, 2011, 11:59 am
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