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Just to make things clear to everyone.

Seeing how the Invite Method fails to display the Rules Page prior to Joining the Group, I just wanted to let everyone know some important details.

Why am I doing it in this Group, because I have some procedures I wish to be done within this Group.

If you have in fact joined the New Group, I want you to leave this Group.

This is to reduce confusion between the Groups, for people who come across this Group prior to the Current Group.

It is also to aid me, seeing that I cannot remove people after Inviting them to the Current Group, I am fairly certain I have missed a few users while inviting members as I did this in sessions.

Having members leave helps me find the missing few, so I can invite them. If for some reason, you are a user I have yet to invite, don't take it personally.

Another reason I want everyone to leave this Group is that even if I were to regain Admin Status for this Group, I would not use this Group.

In all honesty, if I regained my Admin Status for this Group, I would use it to delete this Group... So there is no reason to remain in this Group.

So, if you haven't done so, please join the New Group, and leave this Group.

Again, I apologize for this situation, while it wasn't my fault for my account being deleted, I could have prevented this situation from occurring. Thank you for bearing with me and for your cooperation.

Link to the New Group: http://www.mocpages.com/group.php/19364

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| January 9, 2012, 3:03 pm
Alright, leaving now. :P
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| January 9, 2012, 3:14 pm
Ok i'm not going to say this any more than i have to: Hump-Free, You WILL regain Adminship Here and I, if no one else, am Going to Help you DO it. Why? I've been FIGHTING for your cause FROM THE START. At this point, To Transfer to the other group would be TO ADMIT FAILURE. This is Not Over and I Never Give Up. In short, I'M NOT LEAVING. To end on a freindly not i can only say that I Will Leave The Light On For You.

Good Luck Regardless, Rich.
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| January 9, 2012, 4:03 pm
Quoting Rich Collins... 257th Wolf
Ok i'm not going to say this any more than i have to: Hump-Free, You WILL regain Adminship Here and I, if no one else, am Going to Help you DO it. Why? I've been FIGHTING for your cause FROM THE START. At this point, To Transfer to the other group would be TO ADMIT FAILURE. This is Not Over and I Never Give Up. In short, I'M NOT LEAVING. To end on a freindly not i can only say that I Will Leave The Light On For You.

Good Luck Regardless, Rich.

Sorry, Rich. Things can't go your own way. YOU'RE IN THE REAL WORLD so leave this group and join the new one!
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| January 10, 2012, 4:55 am
Quoting Rich Collins... 257th Wolf
Ok i'm not going to say this any more than i have to: Hump-Free, You WILL regain Adminship Here and I, if no one else, am Going to Help you DO it. Why? I've been FIGHTING for your cause FROM THE START. At this point, To Transfer to the other group would be TO ADMIT FAILURE. This is Not Over and I Never Give Up. In short, I'M NOT LEAVING. To end on a freindly not i can only say that I Will Leave The Light On For You.

Good Luck Regardless, Rich.


I know that you're very enthusiastic about this issue, but I would like to restate that if I do regain Admin Status for this Group Page, I will be using it to Delete this Page in order to make the Replacement Page, the Only Page.

As much as I appreciate your efforts to help me regain Admin Status once more for this Group Page, I simply had to Create a Replacement Group.

I have over 200 people who have joined the Service and I must ensure that I can run the Service in a fashion that allows me to be effective and efficient.

Without being able to Moderate Content, Ban Members, and having other Admin Related Powers, I really feel that The Service would suffer and thus remaining here, while I had hoped could be done, was simply not the best idea for everyone, including myself.

While you claim that Creating the Replacement Group is admitting failure, having a Second Rate Service is what I see as failing. Besides, seeing how I disregarded to create a Second Admin Position, which could have resolved this Situation entirely with little hassle, I have already failed each of you, to some degree.

Now, I would have been more hesitant to create the Replacement Group if I had heard back from the Staff on the matter indicating that they could return my Admin Status in a timely matter.

Seeing that I have already started Winter Semester, and still have not heard back or see anything promising, I felt the need to place priority on keeping the Service alive, not the Group Page. Even without this Group Page, HFR!!! still lives, and will continue to grow.

Also, you may want to keep in mind, while the Migration has caused some Stress, running the Service with this Page would cause more. As you may know, your fellow Members wished to have a New Page created in some fashion within this Group.

When you run a Service, you have to listen to your Clientele, I have heard what a lot of people have said, and they desired a Migration. After reading that, I'm sure that you may feel ignored, betrayed even, but as a Service Provider, I have to think of the Group as a Collective whole.

I may desire that this Group Page may be inactive, but that doesn't me I desire the Service itself to go along with it, I refuse to give up on the Service. Now, seeing how you claimed that you would never give up, after reading this, do you know what you're fighting for exactly?


What is more important to you?

Maintaining a Service, while ensuring a certain level of Quality by making a New Page.

Or

Keeping a Group Page alive waiting for a solution, as the Service descends slowly into Chaos.

I'll leave you to think about what I have stated within the confines of this Message.


I have no idea how you are going to react to this message, I just hope that you see the position I hold and how I see the current Situation that I carelessly allowed myself to place each of us in, and see why I decided that leaving this Group Page, while not exactly desirable, was the more practical choice given the circumstances.



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| January 11, 2012, 7:26 pm
Quoting Andrew AKA Hump-Free

I know that you're very enthusiastic about this issue, but I would like to restate that if I do regain Admin Status for this Group Page, I will be using it to Delete this Page in order to make the Replacement Page, the Only Page.

As much as I appreciate your efforts to help me regain Admin Status once more for this Group Page, I simply had to Create a Replacement Group.

I have over 200 people who have joined the Service and I must ensure that I can run the Service in a fashion that allows me to be effective and efficient.

Without being able to Moderate Content, Ban Members, and having other Admin Related Powers, I really feel that The Service would suffer and thus remaining here, while I had hoped could be done, was simply not the best idea for everyone, including myself.

While you claim that Creating the Replacement Group is admitting failure, having a Second Rate Service is what I see as failing. Besides, seeing how I disregarded to create a Second Admin Position, which could have resolved this Situation entirely with little hassle, I have already failed each of you, to some degree.

Now, I would have been more hesitant to create the Replacement Group if I had heard back from the Staff on the matter indicating that they could return my Admin Status in a timely matter.

Seeing that I have already started Winter Semester, and still have not heard back or see anything promising, I felt the need to place priority on keeping the Service alive, not the Group Page. Even without this Group Page, HFR!!! still lives, and will continue to grow.

Also, you may want to keep in mind, while the Migration has caused some Stress, running the Service with this Page would cause more. As you may know, your fellow Members wished to have a New Page created in some fashion within this Group.

When you run a Service, you have to listen to your Clientele, I have heard what a lot of people have said, and they desired a Migration. After reading that, I'm sure that you may feel ignored, betrayed even, but as a Service Provider, I have to think of the Group as a Collective whole.

I may desire that this Group Page may be inactive, but that doesn't me I desire the Service itself to go along with it, I refuse to give up on the Service. Now, seeing how you claimed that you would never give up, after reading this, do you know what you're fighting for exactly?


What is more important to you?

Maintaining a Service, while ensuring a certain level of Quality by making a New Page.

Or

Keeping a Group Page alive waiting for a solution, as the Service descends slowly into Chaos.

I'll leave you to think about what I have stated within the confines of this Message.


I have no idea how you are going to react to this message, I just hope that you see the position I hold and how I see the current Situation that I carelessly allowed myself to place each of us in, and see why I decided that leaving this Group Page, while not exactly desirable, was the more practical choice given the circumstances.



Thats pretty deep right there. However, I dont think ill be going to the new group. This is probably the last time youll ever here from me, so Id just like to thank you for all your help and wish you luck on this problem. -captin
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| January 12, 2012, 3:05 pm
Quoting Andrew AKA Hump-Free

I know that you're very enthusiastic about this issue, but I would like to restate that if I do regain Admin Status for this Group Page, I will be using it to Delete this Page in order to make the Replacement Page, the Only Page.

As much as I appreciate your efforts to help me regain Admin Status once more for this Group Page, I simply had to Create a Replacement Group.

I have over 200 people who have joined the Service and I must ensure that I can run the Service in a fashion that allows me to be effective and efficient.

Without being able to Moderate Content, Ban Members, and having other Admin Related Powers, I really feel that The Service would suffer and thus remaining here, while I had hoped could be done, was simply not the best idea for everyone, including myself.

While you claim that Creating the Replacement Group is admitting failure, having a Second Rate Service is what I see as failing. Besides, seeing how I disregarded to create a Second Admin Position, which could have resolved this Situation entirely with little hassle, I have already failed each of you, to some degree.

Now, I would have been more hesitant to create the Replacement Group if I had heard back from the Staff on the matter indicating that they could return my Admin Status in a timely matter.

Seeing that I have already started Winter Semester, and still have not heard back or see anything promising, I felt the need to place priority on keeping the Service alive, not the Group Page. Even without this Group Page, HFR!!! still lives, and will continue to grow.

Also, you may want to keep in mind, while the Migration has caused some Stress, running the Service with this Page would cause more. As you may know, your fellow Members wished to have a New Page created in some fashion within this Group.

When you run a Service, you have to listen to your Clientele, I have heard what a lot of people have said, and they desired a Migration. After reading that, I'm sure that you may feel ignored, betrayed even, but as a Service Provider, I have to think of the Group as a Collective whole.

I may desire that this Group Page may be inactive, but that doesn't me I desire the Service itself to go along with it, I refuse to give up on the Service. Now, seeing how you claimed that you would never give up, after reading this, do you know what you're fighting for exactly?


What is more important to you?

Maintaining a Service, while ensuring a certain level of Quality by making a New Page.

Or

Keeping a Group Page alive waiting for a solution, as the Service descends slowly into Chaos.

I'll leave you to think about what I have stated within the confines of this Message.


I have no idea how you are going to react to this message, I just hope that you see the position I hold and how I see the current Situation that I carelessly allowed myself to place each of us in, and see why I decided that leaving this Group Page, while not exactly desirable, was the more practical choice given the circumstances.



As I said, I'll leave the light on for you.

Here, on MOCPages, just as in many other institutions, the Power belongs to the People. When something goes wrong, it is the responsibility of the people to right it. Recently, however, the situation of the Grand Scheme has become increacingly Antidemocratic; The People turn to those above them to set things right, and when they fail to do so, everything falls apart. Helpless to pick things up themselves, the People are often forced to rebuild from scratch. THIS is Real Life.

We must therefore show those above us that We CARE. This way, those above us will see that, when we are unable to clean up the mess ourselves, It is their DUTY to MAKE CHANGE HAPPEN. When we start over from scratch, we are effetively saying that we don't NEED change. Which is a Lie, by the way; Whenever something goes wrong, Something NEEDS to CHANGE.
Yes this page Does seem to be slowly falling to chaos. But the situation is still salvagable. It will continue to be salvagable as long as there is someonr here to say "Hey, This needs to be Salvaged" THAT is why I'm Staying.
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| January 14, 2012, 6:05 pm
Well, better leave the group now.
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| January 16, 2012, 5:28 pm
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