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Contest #2 Convo 2
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Contest name: Racer contest
Height parameters: Up to 21 bricks high
Special theme: Racer mecha. Entries cannot fly or hover, wheels ARE required. Weaponry cannot be lethal or damaging to the mecha.
Rules: The contest starts February 14 and ends March 21. You may reuse a frame already built, though this is not necessarily recommended. Participants will be judged by a panel of judges. The judges are: JaktheMad, BioAndrew, and LTE CEO of MMWI. Entries will be judged on quality of the mecha. Picture editing will not increase your score. If you are going to participate in the contest, you must at least post a comment on all of the other participants´┐Ż entries. The contest is open to anyone until March 21, at the close of the contest. You must post a link to the Mecha Contests group in your entry. You can only post one entry for this contest. Follow MOCpages rules, Mecha Contests group rules, and have fun building!
Prize: A picture of your mecha will be used as the group picture, and you will receive a special mecha built exclusively for you.

Announcement:
We have a winner! Chris D., a newcomer to the group, has won Contest #2! Great job Chris! Well done! As his prize, Chris will receive a special mecha built just for him and his mech, Bagheera, will be used as the main pic until the next contest.
Congratulations are also in order for Andros Tempest and RabidGoldfish who receive honorable mention.
Everyone, make sure to congratulate our winner!

Locking. All conversation can now take place at the groups other threads.
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| January 24, 2012, 10:01 am
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So far, racer seems to be the most popular. But if there are three or more of the same vote for something else, I will make sure to count all the votes carefully. Because right now, everyone is either resigned to Racer or voting for racer.
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| January 24, 2012, 10:03 am
ok I vote aquatic.
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| January 24, 2012, 10:49 am
Racer
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| January 24, 2012, 11:07 am
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Racer.
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| January 24, 2012, 11:21 am
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Racer.
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| January 25, 2012, 1:54 am
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okay, three days until our next contest starts.

it sounds like racer's the one we're gonna go with, since everyone but... Andros and Forte (I think) have voted for it.
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| January 28, 2012, 3:06 pm
Aquatic
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| January 28, 2012, 3:56 pm
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Quoting Chris Davis...The Innovator!
Aquatic

okay, forget what I said. :P
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| January 28, 2012, 4:09 pm
Quoting ariklego ...The Director!
okay, forget what I said. :P


Hahaha forget about me did ya? :P
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| January 28, 2012, 5:48 pm
I am looking foreward to this one. I will try my hardest to actually make a racer.
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| January 28, 2012, 10:47 pm
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Quoting Rabid Goldfish
I am looking foreward to this one. I will try my hardest to actually make a racer.

a racer... probably calls for some nice melee weaponry. hmm, perhaps that blastsword/guard-shoto idea I've had?

unfortunately, the size limit is giving me fits. racing Mechs seem like something that requires good joints and an effective thrust system. not something I'm good at fitting on my usual mini-Mech...
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| January 29, 2012, 1:39 pm
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Quoting ariklego ...The Director!
a racer... probably calls for some nice melee weaponry. hmm, perhaps that blastsword/guard-shoto idea I've had?

unfortunately, the size limit is giving me fits. racing Mechs seem like something that requires good joints and an effective thrust system. not something I'm good at fitting on my usual mini-Mech...
Arik, I think by Racer it means no weapons. Just a mech built with only racing in mind. Even if this wasn't the thought initially, it really should be a rule about no weapons. Think outside the established norm: just cause we're making you add wheels to the mech doesn't mean you can just build it like normal.

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| January 29, 2012, 3:01 pm
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Quoting BiO.Andrew (APMS-1 Series in progress!)
Quoting ariklego ...The Director!
a racer... probably calls for some nice melee weaponry. hmm, perhaps that blastsword/guard-shoto idea I've had?

unfortunately, the size limit is giving me fits. racing Mechs seem like something that requires good joints and an effective thrust system. not something I'm good at fitting on my usual mini-Mech...
Arik, I think by Racer it means no weapons. Just a mech built with only racing in mind. Even if this wasn't the thought initially, it really should be a rule about no weapons. Think outside the established norm: just cause we're making you add wheels to the mech doesn't mean you can just build it like normal.

hey, it never hurts to add weaponry to a Mech, even if its main purpose is racing. the Mech's speed would make it very effective as a melee unit in battle, being able to rush up to its enemies very quickly to attack.

if you think I might try to take advantage of such weaponry in the middle of a race, don't worry. the weaponry would only be used during battle (sorry, there's no way I'm gonna restrict a Mech solely to a purpose as useless as racing :P).
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| January 29, 2012, 3:08 pm
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Quoting ariklego ...The Director!
hey, it never hurts to add weaponry to a Mech, even if its main purpose is racing. the Mech's speed would make it very effective as a melee unit in battle, being able to rush up to its enemies very quickly to attack.

if you think I might try to take advantage of such weaponry in the middle of a race, don't worry. the weaponry would only be used during battle (sorry, there's no way I'm gonna restrict a Mech solely to a purpose as useless as racing :P).
I'm going to put the above comment aside and repeat what I said: I want a rule for this contest to be "No weaponry".
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| January 29, 2012, 4:23 pm
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Quoting BiO.Andrew (APMS-1 Series in progress!)
Quoting ariklego ...The Director!
hey, it never hurts to add weaponry to a Mech, even if its main purpose is racing. the Mech's speed would make it very effective as a melee unit in battle, being able to rush up to its enemies very quickly to attack.

if you think I might try to take advantage of such weaponry in the middle of a race, don't worry. the weaponry would only be used during battle (sorry, there's no way I'm gonna restrict a Mech solely to a purpose as useless as racing :P).
I'm going to put the above comment aside and repeat what I said: I want a rule for this contest to be "No weaponry".

umm, can I ask why?
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| January 29, 2012, 4:46 pm
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Quoting ariklego ...The Director!
umm, can I ask why?
Simply because when I think of a Racing mech and the challenge behind making one, I think that making something PURELY for racing will be more difficult than making a mech with wheels on its feet. If the purpose is racing, then it shouldn't cross over to fighting as well.
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| January 29, 2012, 5:07 pm
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Quoting BiO.Andrew (APMS-1 Series in progress!)
Quoting ariklego ...The Director!
umm, can I ask why?
Simply because when I think of a Racing mech and the challenge behind making one, I think that making something PURELY for racing will be more difficult than making a mech with wheels on its feet. If the purpose is racing, then it shouldn't cross over to fighting as well.

oh, I suppose. that's not at all what I think of for a racing Mech, but that might be because, well, I don't typically think about racing Mechs at all. :P

if anything, I guess I can just make a militarized variant later or something.
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| January 29, 2012, 5:30 pm
well depending on my work schedule, I've changed my mind about not participating "if" the theme wound up being racer or remix, which it looks like it probably will be. This doesn't mean I'm changing my vote, just that I will give it a go after all.

Could be a challenge making something that, to be honest, is completely not the sort of thing I would choose to make. That said I have already made one racing mech previously, but I'm not a fan of it. http://www.mocpages.com/moc.php/224630
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| January 29, 2012, 5:49 pm
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Quoting andros tempest
well depending on my work schedule, I've changed my mind about not participating "if" the theme wound up being racer or remix, which it looks like it probably will be. This doesn't mean I'm changing my vote, just that I will give it a go after all.

Could be a challenge making something that, to be honest, is completely not the sort of thing I would choose to make. That said I have already made one racing mech previously, but I'm not a fan of it. http://www.mocpages.com/moc.php/224630

exactly. it's a challenge making something so far out of our comfort zones. I've never built a Mech without some practical military purpose, and, though I do intend to give it some purpose more useful than racing, this is going to be very far out of my comfort zone.

and I don't know about you, but I always enjoy a challenge.
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| January 29, 2012, 6:05 pm
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I'm going to have to disagree with Andrew on this one. I though we were making mechs with the purpose of getting over the finish line. First. By any means. Including taking out the competition.

I think the mods should vote (or even all those participating) or LTE could just make an executive decision.
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| January 30, 2012, 3:50 am
Where as I would prefer to have no weapons, since all my attempts end up as military units.

If there must be weapons, restrict it to Melee. If so, I'll definitely be adding a shield.
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| January 30, 2012, 8:47 pm
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Quoting Rabid Goldfish
Where as I would prefer to have no weapons, since all my attempts end up as military units.

If there must be weapons, restrict it to Melee. If so, I'll definitely be adding a shield.

military units? yeah, Little Blue's blue and white stripes makes great camo. :P
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| January 30, 2012, 9:21 pm
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Looks like we need to vote for weapons or pure racer!

I vote weapons.
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| January 31, 2012, 2:48 am
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No to weapons.
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| January 31, 2012, 2:52 am
Quoting Rabid Goldfish
Where as I would prefer to have no weapons, since all my attempts end up as military units.

If there must be weapons, restrict it to Melee. If so, I'll definitely be adding a shield.


I agree with the no weapons part, but I wouldn't mind either if we could make some non-lethal melee weapons.
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| January 31, 2012, 6:02 am
depends, if you are talking racer as in "formula one" or racer as in "wipe out". I honestly wouldn't have objections to the rules allowing for hostile tactics.

But I do tend to agree, racers by nature are going to be civilian units, weapons tends to imply militia units of some description.

by the way, would the rules require the build to be dedicated racer or would something with a racing and resting form be permitted?
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| January 31, 2012, 8:08 am
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So as it stands now, 2 yes weapons, 5 no weapons.
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| January 31, 2012, 9:45 am
Quoting BiO.Andrew (APMS-1 Series in progress!)
So as it stands now, 2 yes weapons, 5 no weapons.


actually I was just stating I understand the objection to weapons. To be honest I don't mind either way.

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| January 31, 2012, 10:25 am
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I think I'll make an executive decision on this one: No lethal weaponry. think "Mario Kart" if you are going to add something extra, like a gadget or something. Maybe an EMP emitter? or a big hammer, to slow down other racers momentarily? But nothing chops, slices, or in other ways damages another mecha beyond repair.
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| January 31, 2012, 11:13 am
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Quoting LTE CEO of MMWI
I think I'll make an executive decision on this one: No lethal weaponry. think "Mario Kart" if you are going to add something extra, like a gadget or something. Maybe an EMP emitter? or a big hammer, to slow down other racers momentarily? But nothing chops, slices, or in other ways damages another mecha beyond repair.

I'd better start working on IWE's latest weapon, the 120mm Koopa Kannon. :P

I think this specific competition just lost its "serious" aspect...
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| January 31, 2012, 11:55 am
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Quoting ariklego ...The Director!
I'd better start working on IWE's latest weapon, the 120mm Koopa Kannon. :P

I think this specific competition just lost its "serious" aspect...


What makes you think that? When I think of racer, I can't help automatically thinking of Mario Kart - the "weapons" at least. Nothing that actually damages anything, merely stuns you/slips you/stalls you. Implamenting things like rhat are, in my mind, more challenging than implament a big canoon etc.
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| January 31, 2012, 12:45 pm
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Quoting JakTheMad . . . The Mechanic!

What makes you think that? When I think of racer, I can't help automatically thinking of Mario Kart - the "weapons" at least. Nothing that actually damages anything, merely stuns you/slips you/stalls you. Implamenting things like rhat are, in my mind, more challenging than implament a big canoon etc.

so, whenever you think of racing Mechs, your mind automatically goes to Mario Kart? :P

anyway. again, I really don't care whether or not we give our Mechs weapons for the race. it doesn't matter to me one way or another, or even what kinds of weaponry we give it. I'm just going to give the military variant weapons. (I doubt my Mech could handle big cannons or giant hammers on its tiny frame anyway)
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| January 31, 2012, 1:03 pm
I'll be honest, when I think about Racing MECHS, this is the first thing to come to my mind http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=endscreen&NR=1&v=jMM0NGPwqmM
Now the thing is, this is actually bobsledding with mechs on a highway like track, there is no transformation (the mechs simply "sit" into speed mode) and no weapons just hand-to-hand combat. I know it sounds somewhat ridiculous, but I think this could be something to build upon, or at least get some inspiration from it.
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| January 31, 2012, 2:08 pm
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Quoting Thomas Z.
I'll be honest, when I think about Racing MECHS, this is the first thing to come to my mind http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=endscreen&NR=1&v=jMM0NGPwqmM
Now the thing is, this is actually bobsledding with mechs on a highway like track, there is no transformation (the mechs simply "sit" into speed mode) and no weapons just hand-to-hand combat. I know it sounds somewhat ridiculous, but I think this could be something to build upon, or at least get some inspiration from it.

oh wow.

okay, I take that back, racing Mechs are AWESOME. hmm, I'll have to make some major changes to my original idea to match that kind of speed...

on a side note, "AUGHHH!!!" Eastern-style Mechs, invading my brain! I'll never get that awesome new beefy MBS built now... :P
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| January 31, 2012, 2:21 pm
Quoting Thomas Z.
I'll be honest, when I think about Racing MECHS, this is the first thing to come to my mind http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=endscreen&NR=1&v=jMM0NGPwqmM
Now the thing is, this is actually bobsledding with mechs on a highway like track, there is no transformation (the mechs simply "sit" into speed mode) and no weapons just hand-to-hand combat. I know it sounds somewhat ridiculous, but I think this could be something to build upon, or at least get some inspiration from it.

HeHe.

I was actually watching an episode of IGPX when I made the Maksis AEGAKS. It influenced my design for that unit, and so far, it's my favorite.
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| January 31, 2012, 5:59 pm
Not to double post, but the Racer contest starts today, ey?
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| February 1, 2012, 10:04 am
Quoting Rabid Goldfish
Not to double post, but the Racer contest starts today, ey?


I've not seen a final set of rules yet. So I'm guessing the contest is due once judging ends on the first.

Note Not everyone has yet voted on all the entries, and NOT ALL the entries comply with the rules (yet)

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| February 1, 2012, 10:19 am
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Quoting andros tempest

I've not seen a final set of rules yet. So I'm guessing the contest is due once judging ends on the first.

Note Not everyone has yet voted on all the entries, and NOT ALL the entries comply with the rules (yet)

well, most of the rules have already been set up. I think it's safe to say Racer's what we're doing, the size limit is fifteen bricks (just like the last contest), and your Mechs aren't allowed to have any weapons that do more than slow down or stall other Mechs (think Mario Kart).

I can't imagine what other rules we'd use, other than those and the same basic guidelines that we had in the last contest.
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| February 1, 2012, 11:30 am
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I'd say that you can't post your entries until LTE opens the contest, but you can start building.
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| February 2, 2012, 3:36 am
what I was referring to was contest specific elements like:

Start date
closing date
judging date

And since a couple of the original rules changed mid contest last time, I'd prefer to know exactly where I stand before posting anything this time. Some of us posted their mocs in other groups while others still believed that would be breaking the rules. I still haven't posted mine on any other website.

For peace of mind I think this sort of stuff needs to be made clear and remain unchanged from day zero of the competition.

Plus, a couple of entrants included lots of details regarding back story, function, RPG stuff, while others didn't (or don't normally), or added size comparisons to other designs, piles of bricks, or minifigs, while others didn't and some used extensive photoshop while others didn't. Some included alternate colour schemes, alternate modifications of the same frame, interaction with other designs, while others didn't.

What I'd like established is some sort of conformity so all mocs can be judged on the same merits. Or at least a clear criteria for judging.

such as:

Mech designs will be judged only on originality and whether they fit the set function/specifications.

Entrants must feature only ONE design, alternate colour schemes are permitted.

Images can include photoshop elements.

(ie clarify whether presentation will affect voting).

{these are given as examples/suggestions only, the judges can decide whether it is necessary to include/change the rules accordingly or not}.

I also think it would be better to lock the contest rules conversation once the contest has started to avoid changes being possible. (a second conversation announcing winners etc, can always be opened later). And discussions regarding rules changes be confined to the NEXT contest.

And since it proved difficult last time, can we relax the need to link to other entrants this time.


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| February 2, 2012, 4:44 am
I was wondering the same thing. I mean, from what was discussed, these contest were monthly, ey?

If that's the case, then I have already completed my entry for the racers. If not, I'll have to start over.

And it was discussed who would be judging, but no final word has been said, to my knowlege.
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| February 2, 2012, 6:49 pm
Quoting ariklego ...The Director!

unfortunately, the size limit is giving me fits. racing Mechs seem like something that requires good joints and an effective thrust system. not something I'm good at fitting on my usual mini-Mech...


I agree with Arik, I think that the size cap should be raised to 20 bricks tall, because, in all honesty, its quite hard to make a good, pose-able, racing mech (that are normally tall and slender) that is 15 bricks or under. I think 20 is a better height cap.

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| February 2, 2012, 9:09 pm
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Quoting Chris Davis...The Innovator!

I agree with Arik, I think that the size cap should be raised to 20 bricks tall, because, in all honesty, its quite hard to make a good, pose-able, racing mech (that are normally tall and slender) that is 15 bricks or under. I think 20 is a better height cap.

heh. actually, having said that, I figured out a way to get it under fifteen bricks... :P although it's not exactly your orthodox racing Mech.
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| February 2, 2012, 10:06 pm
Quoting ariklego ...The Director!
heh. actually, having said that, I figured out a way to get it under fifteen bricks... :P although it's not exactly your orthodox racing Mech.


Ive already made a model and its literally just under 15 bricks with the thrusters down, which sucks ): but it looks really good and i dont wanna change nothin (: haha
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| February 2, 2012, 10:10 pm
Quoting andros tempest
what I was referring to was contest specific elements like:

Start date
closing date
judging date

And since a couple of the original rules changed mid contest last time, I'd prefer to know exactly where I stand before posting anything this time. Some of us posted their mocs in other groups while others still believed that would be breaking the rules. I still haven't posted mine on any other website.

For peace of mind I think this sort of stuff needs to be made clear and remain unchanged from day zero of the competition.

Plus, a couple of entrants included lots of details regarding back story, function, RPG stuff, while others didn't (or don't normally), or added size comparisons to other designs, piles of bricks, or minifigs, while others didn't and some used extensive photoshop while others didn't. Some included alternate colour schemes, alternate modifications of the same frame, interaction with other designs, while others didn't.

What I'd like established is some sort of conformity so all mocs can be judged on the same merits. Or at least a clear criteria for judging.

such as:

Mech designs will be judged only on originality and whether they fit the set function/specifications.

Entrants must feature only ONE design, alternate colour schemes are permitted.

Images can include photoshop elements.

(ie clarify whether presentation will affect voting).

{these are given as examples/suggestions only, the judges can decide whether it is necessary to include/change the rules accordingly or not}.

I also think it would be better to lock the contest rules conversation once the contest has started to avoid changes being possible. (a second conversation announcing winners etc, can always be opened later). And discussions regarding rules changes be confined to the NEXT contest.

And since it proved difficult last time, can we relax the need to link to other entrants this time.


bump - just trying to finalise stuff so we can get the next contest started. Would be nice if we could make these monthly, but since Feb is shorter than most months, we really don't have time to procrastinate.
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| February 3, 2012, 7:06 am
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Firstly, I second Andros's motion but add that I think no mark should be given for photoshoping/GIMPing because that isn't really part of the build.

Secondly, on a mostly unrelated topic, I would lik to mention the the mech I'm working on is well under the size limit vertically, however I would like to know if there is a length limit. I would also like to ask if the judges will be reducing marks for making a smaller mech.
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| February 3, 2012, 7:06 am
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Quoting ED Eroomdivad
Firstly, I second Andros's motion but add that I think no mark should be given for photoshoping/GIMPing because that isn't really part of the build.

Secondly, on a mostly unrelated topic, I would lik to mention the the mech I'm working on is well under the size limit vertically, however I would like to know if there is a length limit. I would also like to ask if the judges will be reducing marks for making a smaller mech.

In answer to your question, the length doesn't really matter.
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| February 3, 2012, 10:55 am
wait a second - 15 bricks tall? I'm averaging between 18 and 24 at the moment and while that is much taller than I used to work in, it is quite a bit smaller than most exo force creations.

I think I'm going to have to seriously scale back what I had planned for this one.

just hope I find time, otherwise I'm seriously going to have to drop out.
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| February 3, 2012, 11:23 am
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Quoting andros tempest
wait a second - 15 bricks tall? I'm averaging between 18 and 24 at the moment and while that is much taller than I used to work in, it is quite a bit smaller than most exo force creations.

I think I'm going to have to seriously scale back what I had planned for this one.

just hope I find time, otherwise I'm seriously going to have to drop out.

hey, last contest you were the very first person to post your model. :P
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| February 3, 2012, 1:15 pm
Quoting LTE CEO of MMWI
In answer to your question, the length doesn't really matter.


I've done a test model which in a crouch is exactly 16 bricks tall. Would that be ok? Like I said it isn't my final model just a test of (one of) the concepts I'm toying with for the comp.

By the way, Racer - are we imagining sprinters or long distance? off road or no road? And what are we calling a mech, something which is anthropomorphic or is there some other criteria?

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| February 3, 2012, 1:46 pm
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so maybe we should limit the size to 21 bricks high.
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| February 3, 2012, 2:48 pm
Quoting LTE CEO of MMWI
so maybe we should limit the size to 21 bricks high.

You know, if we up it to 21 bricks, I could post one of my M Frame AEGAKS. That's kind of crossing into standard size.
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| February 3, 2012, 6:11 pm
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Another note for when LTE does the rules...

You'll need to say if there are any criteria for the obstacles the mech will need to traverse (unless it's just a tarmac loop) such as jumping over things, swiming, flying or sliding under things.

Also, I think I know how we could do the height: Your mech may be any size, but it must be able to get through a hole of x dimentions.
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| February 3, 2012, 9:16 pm
Quoting ED Eroomdivad
Another note for when LTE does the rules...

You'll need to say if there are any criteria for the obstacles the mech will need to traverse (unless it's just a tarmac loop) such as jumping over things, swimming, flying or sliding under things.

Also, I think I know how we could do the height: Your mech may be any size, but it must be able to get through a hole of x dimensions.


I like that idea, and it fits in with my initial thoughts of a variform like mecha which partly folded up for extra speed or to traverse low bridges etc.

but unless someone is going to take the time to actually devise a track to race on, I think we need to keep it fairly simple really. perhaps just a basic figure of 8 circuit with maybe a loop and a starting gate, rather than stuff like water hazards, chasms or fire pits.

but yeah, since those elements will influence the designs they need to be clarified, if for no other reason to know we don't actually need to consider them.
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| February 4, 2012, 6:39 am
Quoting LTE CEO of MMWI
so maybe we should limit the size to 21 bricks high.


that would work for me.
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| February 4, 2012, 6:43 am
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Quoting andros tempest

I like that idea, and it fits in with my initial thoughts of a variform like mecha which partly folded up for extra speed or to traverse low bridges etc.

but unless someone is going to take the time to actually devise a track to race on, I think we need to keep it fairly simple really. perhaps just a basic figure of 8 circuit with maybe a loop and a starting gate, rather than stuff like water hazards, chasms or fire pits.

but yeah, since those elements will influence the designs they need to be clarified, if for no other reason to know we don't actually need to consider them.

Yeah that'd work, we could use the crossing point overpass on teh 8 for the height limiter.
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| February 4, 2012, 6:58 am
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okay, somehow I think the convo kinda died, which is a bad thing considering we need to keep going with everything.

we have a contest to wrap up, a massive mess of rules to sort out, things that need to be decided on for the second contest, a partridge in a pear tree, and much more.
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| February 5, 2012, 4:30 pm
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Quoting ariklego ...The Director!
okay, somehow I think the convo kinda died, which is a bad thing considering we need to keep going with everything.

we have a contest to wrap up, a massive mess of rules to sort out, things that need to be decided on for the second contest, a partridge in a pear tree, and much more.

Well we need LTE to do most of that.
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| February 6, 2012, 2:08 am
Quoting ariklego ...The Director!
okay, somehow I think the convo kinda died, which is a bad thing considering we need to keep going with everything.

we have a contest to wrap up, a massive mess of rules to sort out, things that need to be decided on for the second contest, a partridge in a pear tree, and much more.


what we need is:

a. a definite start date
b. a definite end date
c. clarification of any specifications

As far as I know that isn't something that needs a conversation. Once LTE has looked at all the suggestions above and decided which theme won (I'm guessing racer) when it's starting, what arena the races take place in, and clarifies the scale limitations, we are good to go.

By the way, so it's clear which comp the entries are being submitted to might I suggest we also have a format for the entry names this time.

Perhaps have a phrase we need to include like

"Racer Mech Contest" (and give the start date of the contest) plus the name.
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| February 6, 2012, 8:53 am
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Guys, I'm sorry I've made you wait for the rules, but I'd like the first contest to resolve first. Rules to come by Feb. 11
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| February 6, 2012, 9:39 am
Quoting LTE CEO of MMWI
Guys, I'm sorry I've made you wait for the rules, but I'd like the first contest to resolve first. Rules to come by Feb. 11

Much patience, Have we
Sitting out by a tree
While along the world goes,
To a destination of which no one knows.
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| February 6, 2012, 5:25 pm
Quoting LTE CEO of MMWI
Guys, I'm sorry I've made you wait for the rules, but I'd like the first contest to resolve first. Rules to come by Feb. 11


If you need an extra pair of hands sorting out the results, give me a shout, I've a few hours free this week.

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| February 8, 2012, 10:14 am
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Quoting andros tempest

If you need an extra pair of hands sorting out the results, give me a shout, I've a few hours free this week.

I would appreciate that, thank you. I'll make you a moderator temporarily.
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| February 8, 2012, 10:28 am
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Contest name: Racer contest
Height parameters: Up to 21 bricks high
Special theme: Racer mecha. Entries cannot fly or hover, wheels ARE required. Weaponry cannot be lethal or damaging to the mecha.
Rules: The contest starts February 14 and ends March 21. You may reuse a frame already built, though this is not necessarily recommended. Participants will be judged by a panel of judges. The judges are: JaktheMad, BioAndrew, and LTE CEO of MMWI. Entries will be judged on quality of the mecha. Picture editing will not increase your score. If you are going to participate in the contest, you must at least post a comment on all of the other participants´┐Ż entries. The contest is open to anyone until March 21, at the close of the contest. You must post a link to the Mecha Contests group in your entry. You can only post one entry for this contest. Follow MOCpages rules, Mecha Contests group rules, and have fun building!
Prize: A picture of your mecha will be used as the group picture, and you will receive a special mecha built exclusively for you.
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| February 10, 2012, 4:51 pm
phew that┤s a relief, I've been building on the assumption we would need wheels. Should have something ready for Tuesday.

Valentines day... hmmm, reminds me I've not done anything to celebrate the day of lurve. Will have to see if I can find time to address that over the weekend.
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| February 10, 2012, 5:02 pm
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Quoting LTE CEO of MMWI
Contest name: Racer contest
Height parameters: Up to 21 bricks high
Special theme: Racer mecha. Entries cannot fly or hover, wheels ARE required. Weaponry cannot be lethal or damaging to the mecha.
Rules: The contest starts February 14 and ends March 21. You may reuse a frame already built, though this is not necessarily recommended. Participants will be judged by a panel of judges. The judges are: JaktheMad, BioAndrew, and LTE CEO of MMWI. Entries will be judged on quality of the mecha. Picture editing will not increase your score. If you are going to participate in the contest, you must at least post a comment on all of the other participants´┐Ż entries. The contest is open to anyone until March 21, at the close of the contest. You must post a link to the Mecha Contests group in your entry. You can only post one entry for this contest. Follow MOCpages rules, Mecha Contests group rules, and have fun building!
Prize: A picture of your mecha will be used as the group picture, and you will receive a special mecha built exclusively for you.

Announcement:
We have a winner! The illustrious Thomas Z. and his BD-04 Viper have received the highest feedback and have won the contest Make sure to congratulate him by commenting on his entry or by commenting on the threads.
Congratulations are also in order for Bio, Maverick, and Andros Tempest, who receive honorable mention.

The old convo was very long, and as people pointed out, hard to read.
The old one is locked, so here is the new one.

Do the wheels have to be able to turn, or could they be aesthetic only? You should probably edit the above post slightly so it doesn't look like Thomas won the second contest.
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| February 10, 2012, 5:04 pm
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wheels ARE required? sithspit, I'm in deep doodoo... :S

ermm, I don't suppose there's a way we could, uh, make adjustments to that rule? such as allowing things like running or "tarmac-ice-skating"?

if not, I think I'm gonna have to drop out of this contest. :S
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| February 10, 2012, 5:17 pm
My entry is up. Yay for Liquid Imagination overdosing!
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| February 10, 2012, 6:42 pm
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Quoting Rabid Goldfish
My entry is up. Yay for Liquid Imagination overdosing!
And what a way to start off the contest! :D

Though, I hate to tell you, the rules state that this contest doesn't start until February 14th. Knowing LTE, he'll probably just start the contest early. :P
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| February 10, 2012, 7:04 pm
Quoting BiO.Andrew (APMS-1 Series in progress!)
Quoting Rabid Goldfish
My entry is up. Yay for Liquid Imagination overdosing!
And what a way to start off the contest! :D

Though, I hate to tell you, the rules state that this contest doesn't start until February 14th. Knowing LTE, he'll probably just start the contest early. :P

Darn, you're right. I didn't notice that. I figured that the rules being posted meant it was on. I'm sorry.

Hope that doesn't disqualify me...
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| February 10, 2012, 7:43 pm
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Quoting ariklego ...The Director!
wheels ARE required? sithspit, I'm in deep doodoo... :S

ermm, I don't suppose there's a way we could, uh, make adjustments to that rule? such as allowing things like running or "tarmac-ice-skating"?

if not, I think I'm gonna have to drop out of this contest. :S

Is there some way you could work in wheels? Even just aesthetically (I think that's how you spell that)?
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| February 13, 2012, 10:28 am
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Quoting Rabid Goldfish
Darn, you're right. I didn't notice that. I figured that the rules being posted meant it was on. I'm sorry.

Hope that doesn't disqualify me...

Ooh, someone's been NAUGHTY... :P
No, you're not disqualified. But in the future, please read the rules more carefully.
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| February 13, 2012, 10:30 am
Quoting LTE CEO of MMWI
Ooh, someone's been NAUGHTY... :P
No, you're not disqualified. But in the future, please read the rules more carefully.


have to admit I took my queue from Rabid and posted early too. Ironically it was me that pointed out first to him the comp doesn't start till tomorrow.



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| February 13, 2012, 10:39 am
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Quoting LTE CEO of MMWI
Is there some way you could work in wheels? Even just aesthetically (I think that's how you spell that)?

well, wheels might make good head ornaments... (kidding :P)

and don't worry, I think I have it taken care of. I just realized the height limit was 21 bricks instead of 15, and I think I've got something figured out.
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| February 13, 2012, 1:25 pm
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No, you didn't miss anything, but I don't understand why you felt the need to make such a post. Basically, all you did was re-state the information we already knew. :/
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| February 14, 2012, 12:12 am
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Quoting BiO.Andrew (APMS-1 Series in progress!)
No, you didn't miss anything, but I don't understand why you felt the need to make such a post. Basically, all you did was re-state the information we already knew. :/

Who is this directed at?
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| February 14, 2012, 3:35 am
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Quoting ED Eroomdivad
Who is this directed at?
Well, it was directed at Hump-free, sijce he made a very long post mirroring everything we already knew, but apparently he deleted his post. To be honest, I have no idea why he would feel the need to do that...
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| February 14, 2012, 9:35 am
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Quoting BiO.Andrew (APMS-1 Series in progress!)
Quoting ED Eroomdivad
Who is this directed at?
Well, it was directed at Hump-free, sijce he made a very long post mirroring everything we already knew, but apparently he deleted his post. To be honest, I have no idea why he would feel the need to do that...

Maybe he was trying to improve clarity. Anyway, I had a feeling that someone had deleted a post after you posted.
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| February 15, 2012, 4:24 am
http://www.mocpages.com/moc.php/310613
now that is a racer...
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| February 21, 2012, 6:38 am
Quoting BiO.Andrew (Don't go to Ravenholm!)

Basic Design: 1-5/5
Flow: 1-5/5
Aerodynamics: 1-5/5
Originality: 1-5/5
Coolness: 1-5/5
Overall Score: 1-25/25



What are the basic Operating Definitions for each item?

Each item has a degree of ambiguity, something like 'Basic Design' can be approached differently, it could be an indicator of the construction or the functionality of the unit in its designated Role.

I feel that it would be best if each Judge based their assessment on a standard set of clear definitions for what each item entails; to ensure that each MOC is assessed systematically and equally.


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| February 27, 2012, 11:05 am
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Quoting Andrew AKA Hump-Free

What are the basic Operating Definitions for each item?

Each item has a degree of ambiguity, something like 'Basic Design' can be approached differently, it could be an indicator of the construction or the functionality of the unit in its designated Role.

I feel that it would be best if each Judge based their assessment on a standard set of clear definitions for what each item entails; to ensure that each MOC is assessed systematically and equally.

I think you're over-thinking this. Each judge will probably know how to judge something like "Basic Design", as it's just how much the basic design appeals to them. I honestly doubt this will come down to a matter of opinions between judges, as the job of the judges is to give their opinion.

And how on earth did you think my name's subtitle was "Don't go to Ravenholm!"? :S
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| February 27, 2012, 11:27 am
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well guys, I don't think I'm gonna be able to participate in this contest.

the issue of adding wheels goofed everything up, and despite trying fifty million different things, I can't seem to come up with a practical racing Mech with wheels. I MIGHT be able to do it without the wheel requirement, but otherwise, no.

EDIT: wait, wait! hold everything! I'm ON to something, I think! okay, maybe I'll still go on with this after all. :P
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| February 27, 2012, 1:08 pm
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just a reminder, there IS a contest on...
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| March 6, 2012, 10:23 am
Quoting LTE CEO of MMWI
just a reminder, there IS a contest on...


Haven't been visiting the group much since the competition started, but has anything significant changed regarding rules and deadlines?



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| March 6, 2012, 11:05 am
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Quoting andros tempest

Haven't been visiting the group much since the competition started, but has anything significant changed regarding rules and deadlines?



No, and anyway, you already turned in your entry, so you don't need to check back very much. I was just reminding the group as a whole.
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| March 6, 2012, 11:14 am
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well, the Tempest is essentially done. I'm just adding the finishing touches (and a little bit of redesign on parts I'm not happy with), then I'll be finished.
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| March 8, 2012, 5:23 pm
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waaait... the contest ends March twenty-FIRST?! that's only two days! I thought I had an entire week left! *faints*

okay, I suppose I'm done testing out different head designs. :S
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| March 19, 2012, 10:51 am
Quoting LTE CEO of MMWI
No, and anyway, you already turned in your entry, so you don't need to check back very much. I was just reminding the group as a whole.


I was more interested to see if the rules had been edited (I got caught wrong footed last time with the ban on posting it in other groups rule being scrapped).

So it ends this week huh? what's the current thinking for the third contest? or are we going to get round to that once the judging closes on this one?
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| March 19, 2012, 11:28 am
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Quoting andros tempest

I was more interested to see if the rules had been edited (I got caught wrong footed last time with the ban on posting it in other groups rule being scrapped).

So it ends this week huh? what's the current thinking for the third contest? or are we going to get round to that once the judging closes on this one?
Assuming LTE hands control of the group over to me, I'll be deciding the next contest theme on my own. The input you give over the theme ideas I'll present to you guys will sway the decision, but I'll decide on the final theme.
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| March 19, 2012, 12:46 pm
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Alright, so apparently my comment to Hump-Free about his creation has provoked him to leave this group, delete his entry MOC, AND delete his homepage. I understand that he's going through some hard times IRL, but his entire online behavior seems to be escalating more and more to the extreme. I see that he has created a "private group", so there is hope that he may invite one of us to talk things over. Personally, I think his having to deal with IRL problems combined with his tendancy to over-dramatize things is sending things more over the edge than they need to be.

Hopefully someone agrees with me and I'm not just going off on a rant here.
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| March 20, 2012, 12:16 am
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Quoting BiO.Andrew (I'm in ur Chorrol, rescuing ur Dar-ma!)
Alright, so apparently my comment to Hump-Free about his creation has provoked him to leave this group, delete his entry MOC, AND delete his homepage. I understand that he's going through some hard times IRL, but his entire online behavior seems to be escalating more and more to the extreme. I see that he has created a "private group", so there is hope that he may invite one of us to talk things over. Personally, I think his having to deal with IRL problems combined with his tendancy to over-dramatize things is sending things more over the edge than they need to be.

Hopefully someone agrees with me and I'm not just going off on a rant here.

Woah, what on earth did you say!? That's an overreaction whatever it was, though.

EDIT:

Just read the mods/admins area and I assume you told him off for re-posting his entry to bump it to the top. I am right, no?
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| March 20, 2012, 5:30 am
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Sorry guys, I'm not entering this one. That wheel rule stuffed my idea. Oh well, lets hope the next one works.

Also, Andrew, even if LTE hands over control of the group to you I think you should continue with the democratic way things have been run. I'm not saying that you couldn't do it, nor that I wouldn't enjoy entering anyway, but I believe that this group should remain for the MOCers, by the MOCers, so to speak.
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| March 20, 2012, 5:34 am
Quoting BiO.Andrew (I'm in ur Chorrol, rescuing ur Dar-ma!)
Alright, so apparently my comment to Hump-Free about his creation has provoked him to leave this group, delete his entry MOC, AND delete his homepage. I understand that he's going through some hard times IRL, but his entire online behavior seems to be escalating more and more to the extreme. I see that he has created a "private group", so there is hope that he may invite one of us to talk things over. Personally, I think his having to deal with IRL problems combined with his tendancy to over-dramatize things is sending things more over the edge than they need to be.

Hopefully someone agrees with me and I'm not just going off on a rant here.


Well, he mentioned to me before that he would resign from the contest because he wasn't all that serious about it, tough I didn't know he would leave the group too. On the other hand, I doubt it's overreaction, it's probably something else.
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| March 20, 2012, 12:52 pm
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Quoting BiO.Andrew (I'm in ur Chorrol, rescuing ur Dar-ma!)
Quoting andros tempest

I was more interested to see if the rules had been edited (I got caught wrong footed last time with the ban on posting it in other groups rule being scrapped).

So it ends this week huh? what's the current thinking for the third contest? or are we going to get round to that once the judging closes on this one?
Assuming LTE hands control of the group over to me, I'll be deciding the next contest theme on my own. The input you give over the theme ideas I'll present to you guys will sway the decision, but I'll decide on the final theme.

wait a sec, I didn't say I was going to hand the group over to you... it's more of co-leader type of thing.
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| March 20, 2012, 2:01 pm
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Quoting LTE the Mechanier
wait a sec, I didn't say I was going to hand the group over to you... it's more of co-leader type of thing.
lol, okay, misunderstanding BiO is misunderstanding. :P I do tend to extrapolate on ideas, but a co-leadership sounds just as good.
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| March 20, 2012, 3:17 pm
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Quoting BiO.Andrew (I'm in ur Chorrol, rescuing ur Dar-ma!)
Quoting LTE the Mechanier
wait a sec, I didn't say I was going to hand the group over to you... it's more of co-leader type of thing.
lol, okay, misunderstanding BiO is misunderstanding. :P I do tend to extrapolate on ideas, but a co-leadership sounds just as good.

:) that's okay. It happens to the best of us (and to others [me] it happens all the time)
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| March 20, 2012, 4:35 pm
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Quoting BiO.Andrew (I'm in ur Chorrol, rescuing ur Dar-ma!)
Quoting LTE the Mechanier
wait a sec, I didn't say I was going to hand the group over to you... it's more of co-leader type of thing.
lol, okay, misunderstanding BiO is misunderstanding. :P I do tend to extrapolate on ideas, but a co-leadership sounds just as good.

Poor BiO so misunderstood... http://legacy-cdn.smosh.com/smosh-pit/112010/alone1.jpg

XD
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| March 21, 2012, 5:02 am
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Quoting ED Eroomdivad
Poor BiO so misunderstood... http://legacy-cdn.smosh.com/smosh-pit/112010/alone1.jpg

XD
LET THE MEME INVASION BEGIN!!! :D

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| March 21, 2012, 10:52 am
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okay, I've got a... problem. somehow, I didn't remember to check my racer Mech's height. and guess what? now that I've posted it, one day before the contest ends, I found out that it was one brick, ONE BRICK!!!, over the height limit?

am I, uh, disqualified? :S
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| March 21, 2012, 10:56 am
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Quoting ariklego ...The Director!
okay, I've got a... problem. somehow, I didn't remember to check my racer Mech's height. and guess what? now that I've posted it, one day before the contest ends, I found out that it was one brick, ONE BRICK!!!, over the height limit?

am I, uh, disqualified? :S
Well, I'm only going to take off half a point for that violation. To me, making your mech too tall shouldn't be a huge issue.
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| March 21, 2012, 11:22 am
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Quoting BiO.Andrew (I'm in ur Chorrol, rescuing ur Dar-ma!)
Quoting ariklego ...The Director!
okay, I've got a... problem. somehow, I didn't remember to check my racer Mech's height. and guess what? now that I've posted it, one day before the contest ends, I found out that it was one brick, ONE BRICK!!!, over the height limit?

am I, uh, disqualified? :S
Well, I'm only going to take off half a point for that violation. To me, making your mech too tall shouldn't be a huge issue.

okey-doke. hmm, I kinda doubt I'm gonna win this one... :/

by the way, for some reason my activity bar isn't getting updated. is anyone else having this problem?
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| March 21, 2012, 1:12 pm
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Quoting ariklego ...The Director!
okey-doke. hmm, I kinda doubt I'm gonna win this one... :/

by the way, for some reason my activity bar isn't getting updated. is anyone else having this problem?
I'm having that issue as well. MOCpages really seems to be deteriorating rapidly...
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| March 21, 2012, 1:15 pm
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Quoting BiO.Andrew (I'm in ur Chorrol, rescuing ur Dar-ma!)
Quoting ariklego ...The Director!
okey-doke. hmm, I kinda doubt I'm gonna win this one... :/

by the way, for some reason my activity bar isn't getting updated. is anyone else having this problem?
I'm having that issue as well. MOCpages really seems to be deteriorating rapidly...

either that or you're purposely hacking into MOCpages's system and putting glitches in to get us to go to that website of yours... (kidding, obviously :P)
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| March 21, 2012, 1:49 pm
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Quoting BiO.Andrew (I'm in ur Chorrol, rescuing ur Dar-ma!)
Quoting ED Eroomdivad
Poor BiO so misunderstood... http://legacy-cdn.smosh.com/smosh-pit/112010/alone1.jpg

XD
LET THE MEME INVASION BEGIN!!! :D

It's the meme apocalypse!!!
Run for you life!
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| March 22, 2012, 4:00 am
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Quoting ariklego ...The Director!
okey-doke. hmm, I kinda doubt I'm gonna win this one... :/

by the way, for some reason my activity bar isn't getting updated. is anyone else having this problem?

Same here. D=<
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| March 22, 2012, 4:03 am
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I've got all entries judged. LTE and Jak, where are you guys at with everything?
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| March 22, 2012, 11:19 am
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Quoting ED Eroomdivad
It's the meme apocalypse!!!
Run for you life!

*runs over to a case that says "in case of apocalypse, break glass", smashes it, and pulls out a pair of light machine guns* bring it on!!! >:D

p.s. what's a "meme"? :/
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| March 22, 2012, 11:19 am
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Quoting ariklego ...The Director!
*runs over to a case that says "in case of apocalypse, break glass", smashes it, and pulls out a pair of light machine guns* bring it on!!! >:D

p.s. what's a "meme"? :/

Trollface?...Scumbag Steve?... Raaaaage?... No?

Probably easier to let you work it out for yourself, try 9gag or Memebase (they is websites), pretty mush everything on them is or is based on a meme or memes.

Sorry, I think I just took away many hours of your life that will now be spent reading memes... u mad? (Oh, come on, you have to know what u mad means)
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| March 23, 2012, 6:15 am
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Quoting BiO.Andrew (I'm in ur Chorrol, rescuing ur Dar-ma!)
I've got all entries judged. LTE and Jak, where are you guys at with everything?

I'm working on it now.
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| March 23, 2012, 9:36 am
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Quoting BiO.Andrew (I'm in ur Chorrol, rescuing ur Dar-ma!)
I've got all entries judged. LTE and Jak, where are you guys at with everything?

When posting the scores, make a MOC with a picture of the Mecha Contests' main pic (Thomas Z.'s Vipers), titled: "Mecha Contests Contest #2 results: [your name here]". Put the results in for all the contestants with a picture of that contestant's mech along with it.I will make an example MOC for you guys. It should be posted by tomorrow.
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| March 23, 2012, 10:54 am
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Scoring completed and handed in. :)
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| March 23, 2012, 6:17 pm
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Since LTE hasn't gotten back to me, I'll go ahead and do the math to see who won, based on the scoring that was handed in.

Rabid Goldfish - 65/75
Andros Tempest - 66/75
Aaron Yates - 59/75
Chris D. - 72/75
Thomas Z. - 60/75
Ariklego - 57/75

Well, looks like we know who won! I'll wait for LTE to make the official announcement, but as a unofficial announcement, congratulations to Chris D. for getting first place, to Andros Tempest for getting second, and to Rabid Goldfish for getting third!

And thank you all for participating in the second Mecha Contest! :D
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| March 26, 2012, 11:11 am
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where's LTE, anyway?
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| March 27, 2012, 2:26 pm
 Group admin 
Announcement:
We have a winner! Chris D., a newcomer to the group, has won Contest #2! Great job Chris! Well done! As his prize, Chris will receive a special mecha built just for him and his mech, Bagheera, will be used as the main pic until the next contest.
Congratulations are also in order for Andros Tempest and RabidGoldfish who receive honorable mention.
Everyone, make sure to congratulate our winner!
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| March 27, 2012, 3:30 pm
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