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If you have a legoformer technique question to ask here is the place to ask it. Anyone feel free to jump in with advice as well.
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| December 23, 2011, 4:08 pm
Quoting Chris Roach
If you have a legoformer technique question to ask here is the place to ask it. Anyone feel free to jump in with advice as well.

How do you make a legoformer? ;-) I might make my own up one day you've built them all lol
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| December 27, 2011, 5:56 pm
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if you want specific techniques just ask... but how I do it in general is: I just get a picture or image of the character I want to build then try to capture the feel of the character in the brick (insted of exact details) and still try to have a half decent transformation! I usually go back and forth between modes while building so I can see the progress of both modes. And then if I am lucky I get a half decent legoformer with two good forms!

Quoting DeTomaso Pantera
How do you make a legoformer? ;-) I might make my own up one day you've built them all lol


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| December 27, 2011, 8:07 pm
I have a different approach. I'm usually trying to build realistic vehicles that turn into movie-style robots, so I build a vehicle that can transform, then work on embellishing the robot's unique look. For wheeled vehicles, I've found it helpful to work from the chest down, since the chest area usually is the front, and most recognizable part, of the vehicle.
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| December 27, 2011, 11:36 pm
Quoting Chris Roach
Haha thanks Chris but I was just kidding with that very general question lol but sometimes I'm baffled as to how you create such masterpieces. I gather there is a lot of trial, error and patience involved. A very good idea for a group though it's nice to spread the knowledge. I will be keeping an eye on it and maybe one day I'll spring a transforming surprise. I tell you what would be helpful for budding transformer builders, a list of the most commonly used hinges/joints, and where best to use them. I can see this being a very active group :-)

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| December 28, 2011, 2:08 am
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Hi Chris. Hope you had a great Christmas. Thanks for the invite. As you know I have only built one Legoformer but do plan some more. I have also built a few figures (Boba Fett, Iron Man and a Minotaur). I tend to start with the hip and waist area first, then build up to the chest. It was also very useful to have the original toy to use as a reference (as I did with my Jetfire). Recreating the hinges was the most difficult (and crucial) part. I had to put several joints together (on top of each other) opening in multiple directions A technique I am sure you are familiar with. I will keep a close eye on your hinge thread to learn some new techniques. What type of creations are you looking to be added to this group? Tutorials or standard Legoformer mocs?
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| December 28, 2011, 5:08 am
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tuts and techniques

Quoting MortalSwordsman .
Hi Chris. Hope you had a great Christmas. Thanks for the invite. As you know I have only built one Legoformer but do plan some more. I have also built a few figures (Boba Fett, Iron Man and a Minotaur). I tend to start with the hip and waist area first, then build up to the chest. It was also very useful to have the original toy to use as a reference (as I did with my Jetfire). Recreating the hinges was the most difficult (and crucial) part. I had to put several joints together (on top of each other) opening in multiple directions A technique I am sure you are familiar with. I will keep a close eye on your hinge thread to learn some new techniques. What type of creations are you looking to be added to this group? Tutorials or standard Legoformer mocs?


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| December 28, 2011, 6:34 am
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Quoting Chris Roach

OK great. I will definitely look out for some new techniques as I am certainly not experienced enough to post tutorials. Great idea for a group.

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| December 28, 2011, 6:56 am
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I don't do bioformers, that's like cheating. LOL! I on occasion will use and interesting bionicle part but mostly work in system. Most of the bioformers I have seen on this site are not particualrly complex. All those ball joints, people just fold them in half, put the arms along side and say Voila a vehicle! Someone who produces a functioning system transformer shows a lot more skill and ability. Don't be afraid of system (regular Lego) you can do a lot more with it than you think!



Quoting Quake ~
Yah...Not Sure If you can help but,Bio-formers.Any Tips?


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| December 29, 2011, 6:42 am
Well for starters, thanks for the invite Chris! But I had an idea for an omega supreme, where the lower half became the tank, and the upper became the rocket (so not an exact g1 replica). But I was wondering if u had any advice to give on I should work on a large transformer? I usually start with the toroso and legs, but what techniques could help me with this project?
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| December 29, 2011, 8:42 am
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I have some experience with big guys - Fort Max and Devastator and soon to be my Fans Choice Project 2012 Winner - Omega Supreme as well. Weight seems to be the major enemy. As the larger you get the more detail you can put in, although the heavier the MOC is. I am going to be looking at designing bigger more stronger joints for such large creations in the coming weeks if I get any good sturdy ideas I will share them.

Quoting Brickunion758 (Pick)
Well for starters, thanks for the invite Chris! But I had an idea for an omega supreme, where the lower half became the tank, and the upper became the rocket (so not an exact g1 replica). But I was wondering if u had any advice to give on I should work on a large transformer? I usually start with the toroso and legs, but what techniques could help me with this project?


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| December 29, 2011, 4:58 pm
Boyzwiththemosttoyz You know that Armada Prime I'm building? Well to be honest, I got the toy, and I'm STILL STUCK. What's really giving me trouble is the central body. I've built and tore apart that thing countless times now, and I can't get it to a satisfactory level. My other problem with it is I just can't find the right kind of joint to use to attach the legs, and still allow for the super-mode transformation. In the current version, I have his head done, some special suprise accessories, and a VERY BASIC Center Body frame that I'm starting to like, but not 100% satisfied. Any ideas on how to start a good body, cause at this point, I figure I need some advice/help.
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| December 31, 2011, 4:57 am
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look at my g2 megs in g1 colours of WFC MEgs arms / shoulders that may give you an idea. If memory serves me correct legs of regular Prime become the arms of super armada prime, so you need flexible yet sturdy limbs.

Quoting E-Hero_Stratos 77
Boyzwiththemosttoyz You know that Armada Prime I'm building? Well to be honest, I got the toy, and I'm STILL STUCK. What's really giving me trouble is the central body. I've built and tore apart that thing countless times now, and I can't get it to a satisfactory level. My other problem with it is I just can't find the right kind of joint to use to attach the legs, and still allow for the super-mode transformation. In the current version, I have his head done, some special suprise accessories, and a VERY BASIC Center Body frame that I'm starting to like, but not 100% satisfied. Any ideas on how to start a good body, cause at this point, I figure I need some advice/help.


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| December 31, 2011, 7:24 am
Thanks for the invitation Chris. As mentioned earlier in the thread by others, I too can see this group going a long way and being successful. Thus far I've only really created 2 legoformers, which were based off models. So, I transformed back and forth a lot during work starting with robot mode. My latest idea for the Iowa class began with the ship first and then making the robot evolve from that. I've been picturing and designing the transformation basics in my head. I know thus far, with the exception of 1 LDD design, I'm all talk and no action on the project, but I've been moving over the holidays and the bricks are not unpacked. Once they are and I have room it's 'game on'.
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| December 31, 2011, 8:45 am
Quoting Chris Roach
If you have a legoformer technique question to ask here is the place to ask it. Anyone feel free to jump in with advice as well.


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| January 1, 2012, 6:11 pm
Chris, is it okay if I use the just the nose design from your Megatrons without giving credit because you can't copyright and idea that uses just one piece can you?
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| January 12, 2012, 5:18 pm
Quoting JH Bricks
Chris, is it okay if I use the just the nose design from your Megatrons without giving credit because you can't copyright and idea that uses just one piece can you?

I don't see a reason to not give at less idea credit for it.
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| January 12, 2012, 5:57 pm
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no you cannot copyright a brick but maybe a techique or use of a brick! IDK LOL! If it looks similar I'd say you can say you were inspired by a certain person's technique or creation or something like that. Lets not get too crazy - my bigger concern is people that copy complete designs almost brick for brick and don't give the original designer / moccer credit.

Quoting JH Bricks
Chris, is it okay if I use the just the nose design from your Megatrons without giving credit because you can't copyright and idea that uses just one piece can you?


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| January 13, 2012, 7:11 am
Quoting Chris Roach

Okay thanks.
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| January 14, 2012, 2:52 pm
Hey, Chris Roach. Do you have any ideas on how you can make limbs extend (like the toy G1 Bumblebee's legs or G1 Blasters arms etc.)?
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| February 6, 2012, 4:28 pm
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Guess you haven't seen all my "how to" videos - try this one:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gMvLShJM2vc


Quoting Joel Cooper
Hey, Chris Roach. Do you have any ideas on how you can make limbs extend (like the toy G1 Bumblebee's legs or G1 Blasters arms etc.)?


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| February 7, 2012, 8:04 pm
Quoting Chris Roach

Thank you, but due to the scale of my legoformers, I can't use it yet. In the future I might make a 'former as big as yours.
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| February 8, 2012, 9:09 am
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I also have miniformers

Quoting Joel Cooper
Thank you, but due to the scale of my legoformers, I can't use it yet. In the future I might make a 'former as big as yours.


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| February 8, 2012, 9:18 am
Quoting Chris Roach

I know! They're awesome! They're what inspired me to make a miniformer! (Well, that and I didn't have the right pieces to make it huge, LOL!)
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| February 8, 2012, 9:29 am
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then I may have a solution for you in the future when I get around to making a mini bumblebee

Quoting Joel Cooper
I know! They're awesome!


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| February 8, 2012, 9:31 am
Quoting Chris Roach

O.K. Thanks again
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| February 8, 2012, 9:33 am
hey boyzwiththemosttoyz ive been working on a G1 optimus prime but everytime i make a pair of legs they dont look good compared to the rest of the prime i was wandering if you have any advice for making prime legs with rachet joints
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| April 21, 2012, 3:07 pm
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My LDD prime can be slightly modified to take ratchets instead of ball joints - check it out

http://www.mocpages.com/moc.php/201803

my question to you is did u build the legs first or last? I like building from the bottom up most of the time it just seems natural! And then you can proportion the rest of the body parts in comparisson to the legs.



Quoting Patrick Shealy
hey boyzwiththemosttoyz ive been working on a G1 optimus prime but everytime i make a pair of legs they dont look good compared to the rest of the prime i was wandering if you have any advice for making prime legs with rachet joints


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| April 23, 2012, 8:05 pm
Quoting Chris Roach
If you have a legoformer technique question to ask here is the place to ask it. Anyone feel free to jump in with advice as well.


I dont have a lot of pieces so the only way to make my mini transformer is by LDD.do you think its better for me to get lots of suitable bricks for transformers then try to make the transformer. Or should i make it on LDD then order the pieces for it. I tried many times on LDD but didnt really succeed. And should I make a custom transformer at the beginning since it will be easier cuz there wont be needed details or a real character?

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| June 18, 2012, 3:35 am
Quoting Chris Roach


what did u mean by I like building from the bottom up most of the time it just seems natural!

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| June 18, 2012, 3:38 am
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depends what your building you can be building from top down or from the core out - of course a building you would have to start from the ground up LOL!

Quoting flipinx cool

what did u mean by I like building from the bottom up most of the time it just seems natural!




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| June 18, 2012, 7:36 am
Does anyone have any good ideas for an articulated neck connected to a 2x2 head that's made up of 4 1x1 bricks?
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| July 22, 2012, 5:38 pm
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send pic to boyzwiththemosttoyz@gmail.com so i can take a look!

Quoting JH Bricks
Does anyone have any good ideas for an articulated neck connected to a 2x2 head that's made up of 4 1x1 bricks?


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| July 25, 2012, 8:56 pm
I know that Chris has responded but I instantly thought of Chris Roachs mech frame neck maybe that might help

Quoting JH Bricks
Does anyone have any good ideas for an articulated neck connected to a 2x2 head that's made up of 4 1x1 bricks?


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| July 26, 2012, 12:54 am
Quoting Jeremy Shepherd

That should work really well actually. Thanks.
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| July 26, 2012, 9:00 pm
All good

Quoting JH Bricks
That should work really well actually. Thanks.


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| July 27, 2012, 2:54 am
Hey Chris one quick question I'm building a mini G1 slag (my grimlock size and similar frame) but Im having trouble with the head transformations could you please help
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| July 27, 2012, 6:27 pm
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send pic to boyzwiththemosttoyz@gmail.com so i can see it!

Quoting Jeremy Shepherd
Hey Chris one quick question I'm building a mini G1 slag (my grimlock size and similar frame) but Im having trouble with the head transformations could you please help


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| July 27, 2012, 8:19 pm
HI, not sure if this group is still active, but if it is, i've been building a Beast Wars Inferno and have been having some trouble with the head. It is in the same scale as the toy, which has left me with only a two wide space for the head, and im not good with heads to start with, so help would be appreciated. I've also ben wondering for quite some time, Chris, where do you get your faction stickers?
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| September 30, 2012, 11:54 pm
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www.reprolabels.com

Quoting Inferno Thirteen
HI, not sure if this group is still active, but if it is, i've been building a Beast Wars Inferno and have been having some trouble with the head. It is in the same scale as the toy, which has left me with only a two wide space for the head, and im not good with heads to start with, so help would be appreciated. I've also ben wondering for quite some time, Chris, where do you get your faction stickers?


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| October 2, 2012, 9:20 pm
I've been working on Classics Jetfire lately, and I'm having some problems with the wings. I can't decide whether to use bricks or plates. If I use plates, I can't get a nice, studless finish, and the back of the Jet mode is to high, but if I use bricks, I can't get the stripes right, and the shape is a bit off.
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| October 26, 2012, 11:54 pm
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tile the plates

Quoting Inferno Thirteen
I've been working on Classics Jetfire lately, and I'm having some problems with the wings. I can't decide whether to use bricks or plates. If I use plates, I can't get a nice, studless finish, and the back of the Jet mode is to high, but if I use bricks, I can't get the stripes right, and the shape is a bit off.


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| October 27, 2012, 12:18 am
Quoting Quinn Cooper
i think you should do the insecticons or the arialbots. how would you build a mini perceptor and how would it be done?

Try mine. If you're going for mini, then mine's fine. If you're going for tiny, then sorry. http://www.mocpages.com/moc.php/303946
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| November 10, 2012, 4:04 am
Quoting Declan Muller
Try mine. If you're going for mini, then mine's fine. If you're going for tiny, then sorry. http://www.mocpages.com/moc.php/303946

PS. I give you full permission to use mine, as long as you refer to me with a link.
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| November 10, 2012, 4:04 am
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i don't do too many minis cuz i like to make my formers in scale with my previous larger models and for perceptor my t joint legs should be fine for a mini as they are super poseable and should contort into the shape you need for the base of perceptor as a micorscope!

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Quoting Quinn Cooper

why aren't you doing mini legoformers and just asking how would you do legs for a mini perceptpor?

look at this http://www.mocpages.com/moc.php/346020


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| November 10, 2012, 7:30 pm
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i don't forsee any minis in the near future - so your guess is as good as mine!

Quoting Quinn Cooper

thanks,ok,but what would your next one be?


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| November 10, 2012, 8:01 pm
Quoting Quinn Cooper
thanks, I'll send a link once I'm done with perceptor.

Ur welcome.
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| November 11, 2012, 3:55 pm
Hey Chris what's up I'm a huge fan of everything you do! I'm trying to build a mini Grimlock but I'm having trouble with how to build not such a blocky tail. Do you think you could help me out
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| May 10, 2013, 6:42 am
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my hourly rate is $25 / hr - but in this case to resuce bulk i would suggest using those horn pieces they come in various colours or the lego bananas



Quoting Tedward Cruz
Hey Chris what's up I'm a huge fan of everything you do! I'm trying to build a mini Grimlock but I'm having trouble with how to build not such a blocky tail. Do you think you could help me out


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| May 10, 2013, 7:46 am
Would you mind if I used your Leg Design for your G1 Soundwave as long as credit is given

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| May 13, 2013, 10:37 pm
I know you should get full confirmation from Chris but I would say that he'd say yes as long as you give him credit

Quoting Tedward Cruz
Would you mind if I used your Leg Design for your G1 Soundwave as long as credit is given


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| May 14, 2013, 4:49 am
How would you go about adding a real minifigure head to your T-Joint Skeleton.
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| June 27, 2013, 11:10 pm
Hi Chris, just came across your works and turns out I wanted to build legoformers too (lego fan too since I was a kid). So, first thing I want to ask is for an advice, which important pieces should I take into consideration first (joints? pieces for the body?) to successfully building a t-former, fully transformable like the ones you build? I usually build normal lego creations, I've never tried building legoformers before so I'm kinda lost here. Thanks in advance. :)
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| July 14, 2013, 2:12 pm
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concentrate on joints - proportion and you need to visual both modes always as you build! The rest is trial and error. And of course you can look at the designs I have for public consumption for ideas.

http://www.mocpages.com/folder.php/106269

Quoting kevin dayrit
Hi Chris, just came across your works and turns out I wanted to build legoformers too (lego fan too since I was a kid). So, first thing I want to ask is for an advice, which important pieces should I take into consideration first (joints? pieces for the body?) to successfully building a t-former, fully transformable like the ones you build? I usually build normal lego creations, I've never tried building legoformers before so I'm kinda lost here. Thanks in advance. :)


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| July 15, 2013, 7:36 am
May I just add, one of the best resources when you want to create t-formers is to look at actual figures. Particularly scouts and minicons have engineering techniques that are easily replicated using Lego. As Chris points out, have BOTH modes in mind as you build and if possible test elements constantly to make sure that details you've added don't impede a transformation necessary joint.

Proportions are also important, very often to incorporate a transformation idea Lego builds wind up with huge bodies and tiny limbs, try to picture the robot as an action figure and aim for human like proportions as much as possible. Sometimes that might mean taking liberties with vehicle forms.
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| July 15, 2013, 7:53 am
Thanks for the input, I think I'll be able to start with that. Gonna try LDD for some ideas now while scanning through your creations and hopefully I can build one sooner.
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| July 15, 2013, 10:35 am
i know so many people must ask you this and you dont like to give away secrets but i absolutely love your creations and builds and i have always wondered how you make them and actually have them transform its awesome!

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| August 9, 2013, 5:33 pm
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watch my "how to" vids on youtube or download the LDD files I do have on my page - that will help you with some techniques

Quoting yoshi lovespie
i know so many people must ask you this and you dont like to give away secrets but i absolutely love your creations and builds and i have always wondered how you make them and actually have them transform its awesome!


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| August 10, 2013, 6:29 am
How would I go about putting wheels on your T Joint Skeleton if I were interested in building a G1 Ratchet using the design.
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| August 19, 2013, 4:33 pm
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look at my mini Prime w/ instructions, its similar to the t joint frame!

http://www.mocpages.com/moc.php/291472

cheers chris

Quoting Tedward Cruz
How would I go about putting wheels on your T Joint Skeleton if I were interested in building a G1 Ratchet using the design.


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| August 19, 2013, 4:36 pm
Hey chris. I just have a quick question. I LOVE building legoformers, but I need some tips o concealing heads. I make heads somewhat similar to your heads, so that may give you a general idea. I hope you can get back to me soon.
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| September 28, 2013, 7:32 pm
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fold back - keep heads 2 studs wide so they can easily be concealed

Quoting colby larsen
Hey chris. I just have a quick question. I LOVE building legoformers, but I need some tips o concealing heads. I make heads somewhat similar to your heads, so that may give you a general idea. I hope you can get back to me soon.


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| October 2, 2013, 5:43 am
Quoting Chris Roach

that's what i'll try to do sometimes, so i'll make sure to make room in thier backs for the heads to fit from now on. thanks!
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| October 5, 2013, 7:40 pm
Me and my brother were. Planning on making a transformer moc but our problem is we don't know how to make one that transforms can you please help us ?
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| December 19, 2013, 1:14 am
Quoting Aaron Apostol
Me and my brother were. Planning on making a transformer moc but our problem is we don't know how to make one that transforms can you please help us ?

Here's a few tips.

1 - look at AS MANY transformer MOCs as you can. One's I'd recommend would be Chris Roach (the guy who made this group), the almighty jervis, yap alan and orion pax.

2 - Look at the character you're basing him off. If he's an OC (original character), then make sure you know how you want him too look.

3 - Focus on making the vehicle mode more than the robot mode. It won't be a legoformer if it doesn't transform.

4 - Try to use hinge joints and t joints. Chris' t joint skeleton is a great place to start.

5 - Only use ball joints and large ratchet joints (the ones that move in any direction) if you're making a large-sized MOC.

6 - Take inspiration from brickmaster.
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| December 19, 2013, 1:28 am
Quoting Declan Muller

I know its not my place, but I'm just trying to help. :)
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| December 19, 2013, 1:30 am
Hi, after a long inactivity in this group (I'm not that active in groups on MOCpages anyway), I have a little question.

I'm planning on building an original Transformer (design based off from one of my characters in the FoC Multiplayer) in a scale close to Hasbro's official Deluxes now, and one thing that I'm still not sure how to achieve it would be the head, which I'd like to have around the same sitze than the heads of the Hasbro ones, which are surprisingly small (or as close as possible to that).

Do you have any ideas how I could achieve a head this small, aside from Minifig heads?

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| December 21, 2013, 5:39 pm
Hey would you mind if I used your Megatron head for a Non Transformable G1 Model I am building as long as I give credit in the Video.
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| April 28, 2014, 7:47 pm
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sure! Go ahead!

Quoting Tedward Cruz
Hey would you mind if I used your Megatron head for a Non Transformable G1 Model I am building as long as I give credit in the Video.


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| April 28, 2014, 8:11 pm
Hey sorry to bother you so much but I have a question regarding how you would build the arm mechanism for a Bot that transformed into a pickup similar to Iron hide from the Transformer "Bay" Movies
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| August 3, 2014, 10:23 pm
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