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If you want to add a rule or take one off or you feel that something was unfair about your Moc off and how it was judged feel free to talk about it here.
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| August 13, 2012, 6:33 pm
Hmm..I think that building techniques and detail should take priority over creativity....
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| October 15, 2012, 11:24 pm
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Quoting Halhi 141
Hmm..I think that building techniques and detail should take priority over creativity....


Ok, I see your point. I'll reconsider the scoring rubric.
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| October 16, 2012, 8:17 am
Photography should not carry so much weight on the score, just because some of us have Photoshop (A luxury I am without) doesn't mean they should get a higher score.
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| October 16, 2012, 10:06 am
Quoting Mark Murphy (Birthday October 17th!)
Photography should not carry so much weight on the score, just because some of us have Photoshop (A luxury I am without) doesn't mean they should get a higher score.

You don't need photoshop to take reasonably good photos. I don't use photoshop, and while my photos aren't perfect, the reason is my photo setup, not the lack of editing. If you really need to edit your photos, you can use http://www.pixlr.com/editor . It is completely free.
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| October 16, 2012, 10:15 am
Quoting Halhi 141
You don't need photoshop to take reasonably good photos. I don't use photoshop, and while my photos aren't perfect, the reason is my photo setup, not the lack of editing. If you really need to edit your photos, you can use http://www.pixlr.com/editor . It is completely free.

Thank you for the site, but even so many contests I have entered (this included) have had photography as a category for judgment and my opponent has had Photoshop, and because of this they have gotten flawless (or close to this) scores for that. This website is about Legos, not about how well we can take pictures of Legos, if the pictures are not blurry, and still visible, then the judges should not give scores that will severely effect the score. I honestly think photos should not be judged at all, and if they are to be judged, they should just be worth 2 or so points simply based on if they are blurry or not. The topic said complaints, this was simply mine.

~Mark
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| October 16, 2012, 7:03 pm
Quoting Mark Murphy (Birthday October 17th!)
Thank you for the site, but even so many contests I have entered (this included) have had photography as a category for judgment and my opponent has had Photoshop, and because of this they have gotten flawless (or close to this) scores for that. This website is about Legos, not about how well we can take pictures of Legos, if the pictures are not blurry, and still visible, then the judges should not give scores that will severely effect the score. I honestly think photos should not be judged at all, and if they are to be judged, they should just be worth 2 or so points simply based on if they are blurry or not. The topic said complaints, this was simply mine.

~Mark

I see your point, and I agree that photos shouldn't be worth many points. However, I find that the purpose of giving photography points is to show that the builder cares about his MOC. Taking the extra time to ensure that your photos are good shows that you like the MOC and want to present it in a good light (no pun intended). I'm not especially pickle about photography; as long as the lighting is good, the photos are clear, and the background is a solid color that doesn't distract from the MOC, I give full points.
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| October 16, 2012, 7:25 pm
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I think there should be a new and more attractive group picture.
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| October 16, 2012, 7:43 pm
Quoting Reynolds .
I think there should be a new and more attractive group picture.

If you were looking at the recent MOC Offs, then you would've seen that Halhi and I are doing a MOC Off that will require for one of our photos of the MOC Off to be the group's new icon. (unexpected request from James though :P)
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| October 16, 2012, 7:48 pm
Personally, I think that judges shouldn't be allowed to change their scores.
Also, it should be more clear as to whether the score or number of votes determines the winner.
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| November 20, 2012, 12:18 pm
I read through this and I agree that photos shouldn't be a big factor (sure, if you can't see anything it's fine) in scoring.
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| December 10, 2012, 4:48 pm
Quoting David the Fire Ninja Jedi
I read through this and I agree that photos shouldn't be a big factor (sure, if you can't see anything it's fine) in scoring.

I agree, I'd say one point maybe. It was a bit disappointing to lose by one point due to photos.

Also a big one: Judges should not be allowed to change their scores. I had won my MOC-off, then two judges changed their scores.
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| December 10, 2012, 6:34 pm
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Quoting Halhi 141
I agree, I'd say one point maybe. It was a bit disappointing to lose by one point due to photos.

James didn't change his score, he is a tiebreaker judge. Also, I think photos are a big factor, as it makes your build much more attractive. I don' think you should get deducted points for too many photos though, because if the photos are good, than I believe there should be as many as possible. Right? (And I'm not saying that just for me)

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| December 10, 2012, 7:17 pm
Quoting David .
Quoting Halhi 141
I agree, I'd say one point maybe. It was a bit disappointing to lose by one point due to photos.

James didn't change his score, he is a tiebreaker judge. Also, I think photos are a big factor, as it makes your build much more attractive. I don' think you should get deducted points for too many photos though, because if the photos are good, than I believe there should be as many as possible. Right? (And I'm not saying that just for me)

James had already scored us, then he changed it without explaining why. I think you also did. First you changed it because of an error, then you changed Rav's score again to add a point.

I agree that photos should be in there, but as this determines building skill, and not photography skill, it shouldn't be a big factor; as long as the background is good, and the focus/lighting is pretty good, we should get full marks.

As for too many photos, I disagree; it makes the post somewhat tedious to read, and takes away from the overall impact of the scene...
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| December 10, 2012, 7:47 pm
I like a lot of photos. I look at all of them! For me looking at other people's MOCs, the more pictures the better (if they are decent photos that is)! It shows (using another point earlier in the conversation) that the person who created it really wants to show you all the details. The creator cares a lot!

If we are going to have a lot of photos though, we should have something to say every couple of pictures, not a whole list and nothing to say. Many photos shouldn't be a factor in winning/losing.

If someone doesn't like a lot of photos, then just look at the main ones that capture the "overall impact" of the MOC. That could be done in the rules saying: For some judges, only a few photos are necessary. So if you have a lot of photos, choose the best one and have those at the beginning of the MOC.

With the scores, if it's really necessary, I'd say judges can change the scores IF they inform the person who is getting the score changed AND talk to other judges about the score change. This would avoid any confusion/conflict.

Let's not come down on anyone without explanations. I'm sure it wasn't intentional to hurt you Halhi 141.

There should be decent pictures and good lighting and focus for full marks on the MOC. Otherwise, hard-to-see pictures should get points off the MOC.
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| December 10, 2012, 8:23 pm
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