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The ships surgeon has observed that with the adoption of a more regular food intake, we will also need to adopt more regular food "Down Lode" schedule. The Science officer confirmed this observation as we were dining in the new galley just now. If Chef Vics offering tonight was any indicator, we will need it quick!

Building Challenge 9:
Build the head.

SPECs
Minfig scale vignette.
6x6 no overhang.
1 door
1 toilette
1 paper dispenser
1 hand wash station
1 shelf for reading material and extra paper
1 ventilator
NO WINDOWS
NO MINFIG SITTING ON TOILETT.

HINT: HURRY!

DEADLINE: FRIDAY 15 JUNE

Execute

EXCOM OUT...
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| June 14, 2012, 9:47 pm
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Quoting Michael Rutherford
The ships surgeon has observed that with the adoption of a more regular food intake, we will also need to adopt more regular food "Down Lode" schedule. The Science officer confirmed this observation as we were dining in the new galley just now. If Chef Vics offering tonight was any indicator, we will need it quick!

Building Challenge 9:
Build the head.

SPECs
Minfig scale vignette.
6x6 no overhang.
1 door
1 toilette
1 paper dispenser
1 hand wash station
1 shelf for reading material and extra paper
1 ventilator
NO WINDOWS
NO MINFIG SITTING ON TOILETT.

HINT: HURRY!

DEADLINE: FRIDAY 15 JUNE

Execute

EXCOM OUT...

Im guessing the head is the restroom, correct? And Im guessing this is a one perosn bathroom too.
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| June 14, 2012, 10:06 pm
...and non-gender specific...
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| June 14, 2012, 10:17 pm
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Quoting Netro .
Im guessing the head is the restroom, correct? And Im guessing this is a one perosn bathroom too.

A restroom it is. And since there is only one toilet, you better be REAL close friends with who ever you let in there with you!
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| June 15, 2012, 7:04 am
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Quoting The Pied Pauper $$
A restroom it is. And since there is only one toilet, you better be REAL close friends with who ever you let in there with you!


Spaceman Pauper, as always, your counsel is both wise and correct.

Non-gender specific. Single user. We need to be able to flush by tonight. We need to be able to flush by midnight tonight.
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| June 15, 2012, 7:38 am
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Quoting Michael Rutherford

Spaceman Pauper, as always, your counsel is both wise and correct.

Non-gender specific. Single user. We need to be able to flush by tonight. We need to be able to flush by midnight tonight.

If we haven't had at least two entries by the time I get home tonight at 7pm, I will put something together. I don't want to see the ramifications of not having a head!
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| June 15, 2012, 7:41 am
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Quoting Michael Rutherford


I can deal with being a Sanitary Tech. Not the most glamorous job, but someone has to do it!
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| June 15, 2012, 7:43 am
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Quoting The Pied Pauper $$
I can deal with being a Sanitary Tech. Not the most glamorous job, but someone has to do it!


Thos guys really have to take a lot of ...guff... from everybody else. But when your needed you are definitely needed!

I notice that there is not a lot of cross talk between group members. It's mostly short ritualized salutations. After a challenge is announced, there is a very small spike in Shout out / Back Slapping / Hat Tipping posts. But unlike MLRC, these cats really don't seem to have much to say to one another.

Is it just a super focused group?

I think more cross talk between team members would economize the work load substantially, but what do I know. I'm at the opposite end of the spectrum: All talk and no MOC!

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| June 15, 2012, 9:18 am
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Quoting Michael Rutherford

Thos guys really have to take a lot of ...guff... from everybody else. But when your needed you are definitely needed!

I notice that there is not a lot of cross talk between group members. It's mostly short ritualized salutations. After a challenge is announced, there is a very small spike in Shout out / Back Slapping / Hat Tipping posts. But unlike MLRC, these cats really don't seem to have much to say to one another.

Is it just a super focused group?

I think more cross talk between team members would economize the work load substantially, but what do I know. I'm at the opposite end of the spectrum: All talk and no MOC!

I would like to see something from you, but it seems most of your time is spent running things, commenting, and such. But technically, you should secure a departing seat with a MOC. Unless you pull rank, that is.

There are a number of members whose names are not familiar. So maybe there isn't as much cross talk because a lot of the members aren't "best buds" as it was in the MLRC...? Just a theory.

I am fortunate that I have a job that I can spend some time "playing". I'm here for 12 hours, so I'm drawing up my bathroom plans as we speak so I know what I'm building when I get home. So expect a head design from me sometime before 10pm or so. Can't stay up too late. I have to be back up at 4am!
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| June 15, 2012, 9:39 am
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No worries! My Head is completely finished. It will be posted later today when I get time.
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| June 15, 2012, 9:47 am
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It's going to be very hard to make a door that doesn't overhang, and doors do swing open. Can the door have a pass on the overhang part?
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| June 15, 2012, 9:57 am
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Quoting Netro .
It's going to be very hard to make a door that doesn't overhang, and doors do swing open. Can the door have a pass on the overhang part?


Nope. The SPECs stand.
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| June 15, 2012, 10:10 am
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Quoting Netro .
No worries! My Head is completely finished. It will be posted later today when I get time.

I have my design all together. Just waiting to get home to build. It will be interesting to see if we came up with anything similar!
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| June 15, 2012, 10:11 am
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Quoting Michael Rutherford

Nope. The SPECs stand.

That means my nice door will have to go...
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| June 15, 2012, 10:15 am
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Quoting Netro .
That means my nice door will have to go...


Spaceman Netro,

Constraints drive design. We are making the crossing with the space we have, not the space we want. So build us a head where we can take care of business. If it doesn't make the cover of "Better Homes and Spaceships" I won't hold it against you.

Execute.

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| June 15, 2012, 10:26 am
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Quoting Michael Rutherford

Spaceman Netro,

Constraints drive design. We are making the crossing with the space we have, not the space we want. So build us a head where we can take care of business. If it doesn't make the cover of "Better Homes and Spaceships" I won't hold it against you.

Execute.

Right. It's fixed, and it might look better, although there is less room.
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| June 15, 2012, 10:35 am
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Mines up! only took me 5 minutes
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| June 15, 2012, 2:06 pm
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Quoting Michael Rutherford


EXCOM. By now I am sure you are aware of the current situation that MOCPages is having with not being able to upload images. I submitted a (pretty darn good) Head design last night. Is it possible to delay picking a design until mine has had due process, or will AI keep its current schedule?
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| June 16, 2012, 6:00 am
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Quoting The Pied Pauper $$
EXCOM. By now I am sure you are aware of the current situation that MOCPages is having with not being able to upload images. I submitted a (pretty darn good) Head design last night. Is it possible to delay picking a design until mine has had due process, or will AI keep its current schedule?


Acknowlaged. I have pushed ALL Deadlines back to Monday. But after that, the show must go on!
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| June 16, 2012, 1:19 pm
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Quoting Michael Rutherford

Acknowlaged. I have pushed ALL Deadlines back to Monday. But after that, the show must go on!

Agreed, and greatly appreciated.
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| June 16, 2012, 1:32 pm
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Quoting Michael Rutherford


I have followed Spaceman Jones' lead, and linked to Brickshelf pics. You can now view head entry.
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| June 16, 2012, 8:51 pm
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Hey guys! Check here, it looks like someone else found a way around the problem. It's the latest post.

http://www.mocpages.com/group_conversation.php?id=2600&topicid=82382
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| June 16, 2012, 9:15 pm
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The 9th challenge is complete. Spaceman Adams has provided the optimal design for the Head.
Why:
1. SPECs were MOSTLY correct. (more below in Comentary)
2. FAST. It’s all in a word. Today that word is FAST.
3. Good presentation. It was presented like a commercial product. Like a picture in a catalogue. I really like this because again, we see how Adams does not just “Use” the digital format. He “Exploits” the digital format. He capitalizes on the strengths of the system. I have always thought the digital system is limiting. Adams shows us that it is incorrect to compare it straight to brick built artifacts. It is a different kind of tool, and when used correctly, it achieves different results. Although, with his interesting decision to depict the Head floating out in space, I really think he should have called the MOC the Star Head 5000!
4. It was one of only two designs that was depicted with four legitimate walls. (more below in commentary).

Commentary:
I have to be honest here. Spaceman Barlows Head was stronger on the SPECs than Spaceman Adams. In fact Barlow was zero defects on SPECs, but in the end, I would be more comfortable using Adams design. Adams had s door that left an opening at the top (like in most public restrooms). Barlows was sealed up tight. But it was spooky tight. That tiny door just killed it for me. I could see having to go real bad on the long trip home, but holding out for an extra hour because I didn’t want to have to climb into the claustrophobic confines of Barlows design. It was tough, but in the end (but in the end… and I’m talking about Head design… very punny!) I had to own the fact that for the first time, the design was simply better that the SPECs. It compelled me to make a special exception to my normal SPEC-centric world view.

Did you guys notice that Adams and Barlow were the only two guys who took the NO WINDOWS SPEC to heart? Netro Monsterlego, and Puaper all submitted designs with… well, maybe not windows… but giant voids (or in Monstserlegos case, entire walls missing). That is one drafty head! What if it was on the corner where two hallways met? Close the door behind you, turn around to do your busniss, and somebody walking past in the other hall way says: “Hey man, is that a tattoo or a birth mark?” So I guess in the SPECs when I wrote “No Windows” I should have written “No giant voids”.

Features I really liked.
Monsterlegos air vent over the “Door”. Very simple, and very vent-like. But dude, with two walls missing, do you really need the vent anymore? Netros door knob. I love that use for the 1x1 round tile. Netro ws also the first to post, and I was so excited by the speed of action, that I completely overlooked the large voids in the walls (My bad). I thought Barlows Head had the best internal details. The reading material, and the pressure gage on the wall were both great features. And a spider! A spider in the Head… on a space ship? Right on! That’s like Lego Ninjas Sic Bay that looked a little bit like a castle. I’m down with the introduction of the space spider (SS) and I hope SS returns in later MOCs! Pauper and the pot to pith in! A solid decision. White like the best thrones are. And with bright blue water (tidy bowl!). Nice! AND… The super fan! Go ahead, blaze up! The boss will never know you been “Smok’n in the boys room!”

The next report will be on the selection of the Assembly Bay, and then the Brig.
Tomorrow, Chapels are due, with a selection published WEDNESDAY.
Midnight on WEDNESDAY Salvage Team designs are due, with a selection posted on THURSDAY.

Lots of action today. Maybe some new builders posting soon. Keep at it. LDM12 and counting…

Stuff it!

EXCOM Out…

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| June 19, 2012, 7:20 pm
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Quoting Michael Rutherford
The 9th challenge is complete. Spaceman Adams has provided the optimal design for the Head.
Why:
1. SPECs were MOSTLY correct. (more below in Comentary)
2. FAST. It’s all in a word. Today that word is FAST.
3. Good presentation. It was presented like a commercial product. Like a picture in a catalogue. I really like this because again, we see how Adams does not just “Use” the digital format. He “Exploits” the digital format. He capitalizes on the strengths of the system. I have always thought the digital system is limiting. Adams shows us that it is incorrect to compare it straight to brick built artifacts. It is a different kind of tool, and when used correctly, it achieves different results. Although, with his interesting decision to depict the Head floating out in space, I really think he should have called the MOC the Star Head 5000!
4. It was one of only two designs that was depicted with four legitimate walls. (more below in commentary).

Commentary:
I have to be honest here. Spaceman Barlows Head was stronger on the SPECs than Spaceman Adams. In fact Barlow was zero defects on SPECs, but in the end, I would be more comfortable using Adams design. Adams had s door that left an opening at the top (like in most public restrooms). Barlows was sealed up tight. But it was spooky tight. That tiny door just killed it for me. I could see having to go real bad on the long trip home, but holding out for an extra hour because I didn’t want to have to climb into the claustrophobic confines of Barlows design. It was tough, but in the end (but in the end… and I’m talking about Head design… very punny!) I had to own the fact that for the first time, the design was simply better that the SPECs. It compelled me to make a special exception to my normal SPEC-centric world view.

Did you guys notice that Adams and Barlow were the only two guys who took the NO WINDOWS SPEC to heart? Netro Monsterlego, and Puaper all submitted designs with… well, maybe not windows… but giant voids (or in Monstserlegos case, entire walls missing). That is one drafty head! What if it was on the corner where two hallways met? Close the door behind you, turn around to do your busniss, and somebody walking past in the other hall way says: “Hey man, is that a tattoo or a birth mark?” So I guess in the SPECs when I wrote “No Windows” I should have written “No giant voids”.

Features I really liked.
Monsterlegos air vent over the “Door”. Very simple, and very vent-like. But dude, with two walls missing, do you really need the vent anymore? Netros door knob. I love that use for the 1x1 round tile. Netro ws also the first to post, and I was so excited by the speed of action, that I completely overlooked the large voids in the walls (My bad). I thought Barlows Head had the best internal details. The reading material, and the pressure gage on the wall were both great features. And a spider! A spider in the Head… on a space ship? Right on! That’s like Lego Ninjas Sic Bay that looked a little bit like a castle. I’m down with the introduction of the space spider (SS) and I hope SS returns in later MOCs! Pauper and the pot to pith in! A solid decision. White like the best thrones are. And with bright blue water (tidy bowl!). Nice! AND… The super fan! Go ahead, blaze up! The boss will never know you been “Smok’n in the boys room!”

The next report will be on the selection of the Assembly Bay, and then the Brig.
Tomorrow, Chapels are due, with a selection published WEDNESDAY.
Midnight on WEDNESDAY Salvage Team designs are due, with a selection posted on THURSDAY.

Lots of action today. Maybe some new builders posting soon. Keep at it. LDM12 and counting…

Stuff it!

EXCOM Out…

Oops. Disn't knwo you wanted it closed in. The "Void" is meant so you could see inside, and a wall is meant to be there.
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| June 19, 2012, 7:28 pm
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Quoting Netro .
Oops. Disn't knwo you wanted it closed in. The "Void" is meant so you could see inside, and a wall is meant to be there.


Logical. I reccomend in the future you do a pic with the wall segments build and displayed next to the main project (so the viewer knows they are only temporaraly removed).

Good job... Shipwright.
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| June 19, 2012, 9:28 pm
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thank you for overlooking any mistakes but if you dont mind. what were they?
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| June 20, 2012, 12:35 pm
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Quoting Topher Adams
thank you for overlooking any mistakes but if you dont mind. what were they?


Headsman Adams,

The only two "errors" I can identify are that the door you used creates a sort of "Window" because it does not fill the door way. And you did not include a roof on the Head.

In the case of the door, even though it crates a window, and I stated in SPECs that I did not want a window, I thought your vision was flat out better than my own.

In the case of the roof, it was not really a SPEC, so I didn't really feel comfortable holding it against you. This may seem inconsistent when one considers that I held similar "Voids" against other builders. But I don't care.

The fact is that I would rather use a Head with no roof than no wall.

How about you?

Again, well done!

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| June 20, 2012, 12:45 pm
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Quoting Michael Rutherford

Headsman Adams,

The only two "errors" I can identify are that the door you used creates a sort of "Window" because it does not fill the door way. And you did not include a roof on the Head.

In the case of the door, even though it crates a window, and I stated in SPECs that I did not want a window, I thought your vision was flat out better than my own.

In the case of the roof, it was not really a SPEC, so I didn't really feel comfortable holding it against you. This may seem inconsistent when one considers that I held similar "Voids" against other builders. But I don't care.

The fact is that I would rather use a Head with no roof than no wall.

How about you?

Again, well done!

ok, i see what you mean. thank you
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| June 20, 2012, 12:47 pm
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