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Just like any other group I helped create, In the general convo you can post anything you want, as long as you dont ask people to look at your mocs or join a non military group, may make an exeption for related groups. Dont post news about your countries here as they will be ignored.
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| June 20, 2012, 6:26 pm
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Quoting Nightmaresquid
Just like any other group I helped create, In the general convo you can post anything you want, as long as you dont ask people to look at your mocs or join a non military group, may make an exeption for related groups. Dont post news about your countries here as they will be ignored.

So talk about groups like DAC is allowed, but not advertisements for groups like TFOL? Makes sense. Is DAC considered a sister group?
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| June 20, 2012, 8:03 pm
Quoting Matthew McCall
So talk about groups like DAC is allowed, but not advertisements for groups like TFOL? Makes sense. Is DAC considered a sister group?

I would think so, I mean they are both military war game groups. Im fine with people posting say that they uploaded a new military creation, but dont want to see links to someones halo warthog, or to the 61st clone republic or something like that.

So can we do modern military, because if we do cold war I probably wont upload any mocs for a long time. Ive started a tank WIP out of real legos, and I can say its my best creation yet, I can also tell you that a ground drone is finished, and an APC is being designed on, and Im thinking about an air drone.
If anyone has any other Ideas please say so.
I will start on some rules this week (graduated high school, will have much free time now). I can also have the map added once we decide if we should do psuedo earth, or a fictional world.
I know what my nation would be called for both themes.
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| June 20, 2012, 9:20 pm
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Quoting Nightmaresquid
I know what my nation would be called for both themes.

I will be with Tongoria as usual:D
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| June 21, 2012, 8:49 am
Quoting Tyro Cook

As I told you on XBL, I am able to help you with any of the management of this group if need be. All you have to do is ask.

Yeah that sounds good, I will make you an Admin.

Ive decided that the group will take place in a fictional world, and will be modern era, but havnt decided on a back story as of yet.
The rules will be similar to C&C, and players will captrure NPC countries instead of grid spaces.

I just finished my APC.
I will upload the map now, If anyone would like add any other Ideas, please say so.
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| June 21, 2012, 3:44 pm
Quoting Nightmaresquid

How do you designate what area you want to claim?
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| June 21, 2012, 4:39 pm
Quoting C A
Quoting Nightmaresquid

How do you designate what area you want to claim?

It can be a little hard when you dont use an earth map but there are three common ways, (1) copy it into paint or any other program and color it in, then post it in a creation and put a link to the image in your sign up comment, (2) if the area resembels a real place post where it is by saying for example "where mexico would be"
(3) try and use the grid on the map for example "tropic of capricorn at 30 degrees ect"
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| June 21, 2012, 4:58 pm
Quoting Nightmaresquid

Thanks got it.
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| June 21, 2012, 5:05 pm
Quoting Matthew McCall
So talk about groups like DAC is allowed, but not advertisements for groups like TFOL? Makes sense. Is DAC considered a sister group?

I just noticed that some of your drones are to advanced for the group, some are Ok, but remember that scram jets are not used on drone today, and the most drones like the reaper, or global hawk have at the most four missiles. Also remember that drones that are shaped like conventional aircraft wont be used in the foreseeable future let alone anytime soon. Scramjet missiles are Ok, but for heavy aircraft or ships. Also railguns arnt allowed in the group. This shouldnt affect your military since nearly all of your creations besides those few are fine, I hope this is ok.


In other news the group is finished, everyone has been added so far, the rules, the map, and pretty much everything else, now we just need some NPC countries, anyone who would like to name some near them please use this thread.
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| June 22, 2012, 5:39 pm
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Quoting Nightmaresquid
I just noticed that some of your drones are to advanced for the group, some are Ok, but remember that scram jets are not used on drone today, and the most drones like the reaper, or global hawk have at the most four missiles. Also remember that drones that are shaped like conventional aircraft wont be used in the foreseeable future let alone anytime soon. Scramjet missiles are Ok, but for heavy aircraft or ships. Also railguns arnt allowed in the group. This shouldnt affect your military since nearly all of your creations besides those few are fine, I hope this is ok.


In other news the group is finished, everyone has been added so far, the rules, the map, and pretty much everything else, now we just need some NPC countries, anyone who would like to name some near them please use this thread.

Yeah, just assume reasonable loadouts, and not everything that I added will be used, just certain creations in the packs. I am going to mod a bunch to make them addable though.
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| June 22, 2012, 6:17 pm
Quoting Matthew McCall
Yeah, just assume reasonable loadouts, and not everything that I added will be used, just certain creations in the packs. I am going to mod a bunch to make them addable though.

I thought so but I wasnt sure, are you going to make your country?
Its time for some NNC.
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| June 22, 2012, 6:26 pm
Quoting Josh Hoffman
Ok so no combat drone's like VTOL drones or drone fighter's but would predator type drone's be ok?

yeah, those are ok, and also V wing drone bombers.
I wouldnt kick you for being inactive, we dont do thing like that here.
You can still create your country, as you dont have to be active to own a country, after a very long time of inactivity, maybe like six months, your nation might become a temporary NPC, but you can reclaim it at anytime, we wont kick inactive members.
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| June 22, 2012, 7:23 pm
I have one question regarding technology: is http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adaptiv allowed?
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| June 23, 2012, 7:56 am
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Quoting PALADIN .
I have one question regarding technology: is http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adaptiv allowed?

That's some high-tech stuff. If we allow it, it means the vehicles will be more expensive and you can produce them even slower. It seems a bit too futuristic to me.
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| June 23, 2012, 11:47 am
Quoting Michael Rutherford
Aside from changing the name of the primary energy source from "Oil" to "Bio-fuel" what impact does the energy supply actually have on the game?

So, what does it actually matter to the players what the name of the fuel is?

Collapse and Collision becomes a carbon copy of Devide and Concure.

Lots of talk about how your newest weapons are indestructible, or invisible, or can fly over the moon at the speed of light, and how you have a thousand of them... and the actual fighting never happens.

If I'm wrong, break it down for me.

I'm all ears.
First let me say this,
The concept of these gaming goups dates back a long, long time. They appear to have started around when GAMAA declared war on UNE, and COP, and the two groups had the GAMAA admins banned. (poor RYAN!!)
Afer that most of those arrogant builders started to make the groups like D&L, and RA-CAS-UEN, which started the craze. Conflict 1 was made by matt P as a replacment to the strict rules, but our rule set was super flawed, and led to bitter arguements between everyone, so we made Conflict II which was a vast improvment. David didnt want to make WWii era creations so he created D&C which had all of the flaws that the old group had. I assure you that this group will work much better, and much simpler without the grid system.

As for technology, I had left D&C when space battleships, and invisible tanks started to appear, this is a problem with any Sifi group though as the average builder has no idea how they work in combat, no one does, but a modern group doesnt have that problem. There are no invincible tanks, or fighters today. We know how the weapons work in combat, and CR are easier.

As for the Bio fuel, its isnt a new type of gas, its basicly artificialy created patroleum, and an engine works the exact same way. Also you need to remember that the millions of people who work on the rigs, and at proccesing plants could now be used to farm, and in the curret world we could all together replace natural gas, but we are to lazy, and rich people get to much money, so we dont. Also countries could export oil, The US imports half of its oil, for example.
I dont see how we should make more rules, we should be fine if we just think like this.
It was mainly just a backstory as to why theres so few countries at the moment.

Lets assume that each country has enough land to support agriculture, it wont affect the group.
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| June 23, 2012, 8:46 pm
Quoting Josh Hoffman
Hey Nightmare just a random question do you FaceBook or anything like that?

Um, no, I dont see the point when I have mocpages. Im not very social anyway and wouldnt want to talk much about anything other than Lego, or videogames. I have Xbox live though, do you?
Its mainly because I dont need to though.
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| June 23, 2012, 9:18 pm
Awesome news!! My parents agreed to buy me a 42" philips flat screen!! Now I can truly experiance HD video games. This was my gift for graduation, as my brother didnt.
I need to decide on what to go to college for.
I was thinking about graphic arts, as Im a fan of Adobe programs, and was good at them in graphics class in school, (to some degree seeing the teacher had a heart attack on the first day, and we had subs the whole year).
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| June 23, 2012, 9:25 pm
Quoting Nightmaresquid

Quick question can we use creations that we only posted on Flickr or do they have to be on mocpages?
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| June 24, 2012, 10:44 am
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Quoting C A
Quick question can we use creations that we only posted on Flickr or do they have to be on mocpages?

You should post links to them, preferably all in one space.
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| June 24, 2012, 11:33 am
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Quoting Tyro Cook
My uncle gave me an M1 Garand as an early birthday present. I'm bringing it to Camp Perry this July to shoot it in the National Matches.

In Hungary it's not that easy to get a gun. I only have an air rifle but it's fun too.
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| June 24, 2012, 11:59 am
Quoting Tyro Cook
My uncle gave me an M1 Garand as an early birthday present. I'm bringing it to Camp Perry this July to shoot it in the National Matches.

I have an awesome uncle like that to, He says he will get me a class-3 gun permit, I think hes loony, but awesome.
I want a glock with an extended clip.
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| June 24, 2012, 1:44 pm
Quoting C A
Quick question can we use creations that we only posted on Flickr or do they have to be on mocpages?

Post the links to flickr in your stats.
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| June 24, 2012, 4:08 pm
 Group admin 
Quoting Matthew Sylvan
In Hungary it's not that easy to get a gun. I only have an air rifle but it's fun too.

I only have a airgun as well, and a limited amount of real firarm exsperiance, which was quite fun.
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| June 24, 2012, 6:25 pm
Quoting Josh Hoffman

I hate glock's you want a real pistol get a Colt M1911 or a HK USP.45

Lets see, do I want the real pistol, a 7 or 9 round semi,
or a REAL pistol, a 38 round fully auto weapon, that can fire underwater, and is made out of a durable lightweight plastic that doesnt show up under a metal detector. Also it is known to be more reliable, everyone is getting rid of the 1911s in militaries for glocks. Also they make explosive rounds, and 100 round drum clips FTW.

100 round full auto with explosive bullets feels much better to kill zombies or vampires in the coming apocalypse.
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| June 24, 2012, 8:09 pm
Quoting Josh Hoffman

Yeah as if you will get your hand's on explosive ammo lol. During a zombie apocalypse you want cheaper ammo so it's easier to get your hand's on.

You can in america, with a class 3 licence, If I run out, I'll fill the clip with regular 9mm.

A class 3 is the texas way of saying "hey you cant do shyt america", did you know you can own flamethrowers, and 40mm autocannons.
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| June 24, 2012, 8:21 pm
Quoting Josh Hoffman

Lol those were given to you :P Not under your name right? When im 18 im buying an AK-47,Maybe an AR-15 but something actually reliable would be nice. I'd love to get my hand's on a Tec-9 whether it's fully automatic or semi. Trust me I know my gun's, I've shot a glock I hated it. Shot a Ruger Mini-30 and Beretta M92FS for my first gun's. Just when I turn 18 im buying good weapon's idc if there cheap lol AK-47s are worth the price :P

You must have fired a cheap civilian one, a real glock fires full auto, and has many times more ammo than any other pistol.
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| June 24, 2012, 8:25 pm
Quoting Josh Hoffman

All glock's in the US that are semi auto are cheap lol. Idk why anyone would want a fully auto glock it's not effective unless your doing a drive by. Spraying doesnt work so much lol. Better off with an AK-47 with a 75 round RPK magazine. :P

The newer gen are more durable, lighter, have single, 3 round, and auto selective, can fire under water, have mags up to 100 rounds, and have proven to be more reliable by police forces than 1911s, they are simple and dont break easly at all, they may feel cheap due to plastic, but all plastic weapons fell that way, they arnt however. A fully auto glock would be used with a stock and are very accurate with one. Despite what you may have heard a full auto weapon needs to use a stock.
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| June 24, 2012, 8:36 pm
 Group admin 
Appologies, I accidently deleted a reply in moderation :/
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| June 25, 2012, 1:22 am
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Probably you all know FPSrussia but if you don't check out his videos on youtube.
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| June 25, 2012, 3:33 am
Quoting Josh Hoffman
I think im going to leave Collapse & Collision only because I dont see myself being to active around here. Trying to join other group's so I dont wanna have to much on my plate. Maybe in the future i'll rejoin but for now I am busy.

Ok, as we said we will keep your nation on the map unless you ever come back.
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| June 25, 2012, 7:02 am
 Group admin 
Quoting Matthew Sylvan
Probably you all know FPSrussia but if you don't check out his videos on youtube.

Yah, he's pretty cool.
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| June 25, 2012, 9:07 am
Quoting Matthew Sylvan
Probably you all know FPSrussia but if you don't check out his videos on youtube.

"As usual friends, have good day."
FPSrussia is prety sweet, did you seethe episode where he drove to the McDonalds on the APC?
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| June 25, 2012, 12:10 pm
 Group admin 
Quoting Daniel Boone
"As usual friends, have good day."
FPSrussia is prety sweet, did you seethe episode where he drove to the McDonalds on the APC?

Yeah, he also did it another time in a tank. XD
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| June 25, 2012, 12:12 pm
Quoting Matthew McCall
Yeah, he also did it another time in a tank. XD

what?! I must've missed that one! One of my favorites is when he uses the flamethrower on the pig, or the 82mm Mortar Fail video,
"Da, that went probably around...8 feet...XD
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| June 25, 2012, 12:27 pm
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Quoting Matthew McCall
Yeah, he also did it another time in a tank. XD

In an M3 Stuart to be exact.
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| June 25, 2012, 12:52 pm
The NPC nations have been added !!! Time to expand bros.
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| June 25, 2012, 3:55 pm
Quoting Michael Rutherford

N. Squid,


No,
No,
Yes,
No.

VTOL is allowed but only for rotorcraft due to there simplicity.
The exeption being for fighter jets due to the fact that we use them today, an example being
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harrier_Jump_Jet

Sorry if this disapoints, but normally when I let things like this slide, this will be all that people would make. It would also cost to much to ever be used in a realistic sense, and a heli would work much better anyway in modern tech. V/STOL aircraft that use jets are known to have very tragic lifes such as the harrier. They are extremly hard to control, especially with the engine on both sides configuration.
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| June 25, 2012, 7:11 pm
Quoting Michael Rutherford
Good luck.

Your leaving?
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| June 26, 2012, 1:42 pm
Ha! I just now realized that in Conflict 1 and 2, Divide and Conquer, and Collapse & Collision. My country is almost always the large northern island.
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| June 26, 2012, 9:45 pm
Quoting Daniel Boone
Ha! I just now realized that in Conflict 1 and 2, Divide and Conquer, and Collapse & Collision. My country is almost always the large northern island.

Well you have chosen to be in that spot. I personally always want to be on an island or peninsuela.
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| June 28, 2012, 5:33 pm
Quoting Josh Hoffman

I hate glock's you want a real pistol get a Colt M1911 or a HK USP.45


.45s are just too bulky to carry (ask me how I know)! Though I kick myself for selling mine. It was an AMT long slide (like the one in Terminator without the laser). Problem with the long slide is it cycles too slowly and is even bulkier than a normal 1911.
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| June 29, 2012, 11:32 am
Im probably going to start being more active now, I just got myself banned from a minecraft server I play on for admin abuse :/
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| July 5, 2012, 12:18 pm
Quoting Vallkirimrl (preivously C. Boris)
Im probably going to start being more active now, I just got myself banned from a minecraft server I play on for admin abuse :/
That
would be good, as the group isnt currently active. I wish people would comment at least twice a week, that could help jump start the group again. The map is already finished so everyone can expand. Does anyone want to invite someone?
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| July 8, 2012, 5:38 pm
 Group admin 
Quoting Nightmaresquid
Quoting Vallkirimrl (preivously C. Boris)
Im probably going to start being more active now, I just got myself banned from a minecraft server I play on for admin abuse :/
That
would be good, as the group isnt currently active. I wish people would comment at least twice a week, that could help jump start the group again. The map is already finished so everyone can expand. Does anyone want to invite someone?

Oh, sorry about not being more active, I'm going to post a aircraft superpack in the next few hours.
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| July 8, 2012, 5:47 pm
I'm going to have to hold on making a country, I dont have time to build much and I can't really compete if I do t build actively. I should have more time during the school year.
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| July 9, 2012, 10:45 pm
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I will be on vacation for 1 week from Saturday. I will check the group when I can.
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| July 26, 2012, 3:39 pm
I should be here now, wow this group isn't very active.
does anyone have an xbox live account?
Has anyone played fallout 3?
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| August 9, 2012, 9:50 am
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Quoting Nightmaresquid
I should be here now, wow this group isn't very active.
does anyone have an xbox live account?
Has anyone played fallout 3?

I only played with New Vegas on my PC but I didn't really like it.
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| August 9, 2012, 11:37 am
 Group admin 
Quoting Nightmaresquid
I should be here now, wow this group isn't very active.
does anyone have an xbox live account?
Has anyone played fallout 3?

I have an XBOX, but no XBOX Live.
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| August 9, 2012, 11:40 am
Ive been playing numerous video games, and am very happy so far with my xbox, I would suggest you get live because you can get a good deal on a 12 month subscription, and save money. Not to mention that its way funner to play with other people than by yourself.
You should only get the gold mebership though, as it has way more features.
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| August 10, 2012, 11:59 am
 Group admin 
Quoting Nightmaresquid
Ive been playing numerous video games, and am very happy so far with my xbox, I would suggest you get live because you can get a good deal on a 12 month subscription, and save money. Not to mention that its way funner to play with other people than by yourself.
You should only get the gold mebership though, as it has way more features.

I just don't have the time to do large amounts of video games and Legos at the same time since I'm busy with school.
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| August 10, 2012, 1:47 pm
 Group admin 
Well, school is over so I can be more active now. A whole second wave of ground and airvehicles has been under construction, but now I have the time to get it finished. All i'm going to say is that it will be composed of either designs to fill roles I didn't already have creations for or superior designs to replace some of the "inferior" vehilces.
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| August 22, 2012, 2:53 pm
Quoting Matthew McCall
Well, school is over so I can be more active now. A whole second wave of ground and airvehicles has been under construction, but now I have the time to get it finished. All i'm going to say is that it will be composed of either designs to fill roles I didn't already have creations for or superior designs to replace some of the "inferior" vehilces.

Yeah, well counter strike GO came out today, and I will most likely be playing that for a while, and with Tyler not very active there most likely wont be that much activity in the group for a while. My busted camera isn't helping either. I will try and be a little active here, but I don't think I will be doing much on the pages for a while. Can you guys try and keep the group going until I come back?
how many people are active?

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| August 22, 2012, 3:06 pm
 Group admin 
Quoting Nightmaresquid
Yeah, well counter strike GO came out today, and I will most likely be playing that for a while, and with Tyler not very active there most likely wont be that much activity in the group for a while. My busted camera isn't helping either. I will try and be a little active here, but I don't think I will be doing much on the pages for a while. Can you guys try and keep the group going until I come back?
how many people are active?

Well, mainly just me XD
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| August 22, 2012, 3:15 pm
 Group moderator 
Quoting Matthew McCall
Well, mainly just me XD

When I see some activity, I always check it.
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| August 22, 2012, 3:58 pm
 Group admin 
Quoting Matthew Sylvan
When I see some activity, I always check it.

Well, I do the same thing most of the time, so it would seem we are all mainly being lurkers.
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| August 22, 2012, 7:43 pm
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