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| April 26, 2013, 8:59 pm
HEY! Unlock General 3 for a few min so I can finish up my argument over the legality of the Piledriver missile. It'd make no sense if I put the end of it in here.
Thanks.
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| April 26, 2013, 9:00 pm
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Quoting Zach Sykes; Master of all Things Mars
HEY! Unlock General 3 for a few min so I can finish up my argument over the legality of the Piledriver missile. It'd make no sense if I put the end of it in here.
Thanks.

Read my last comment, the arguement will end there. You are allowed to use them, but they cost billions of dollars anyways, and there is no explosion just kenetic force, so its only good against dug in forces.
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| April 26, 2013, 9:09 pm
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Quoting Nightmaresquid º
Read my last comment, the arguement will end there. You are allowed to use them, but they cost billions of dollars anyways, and there is no explosion just kenetic force, so its only good against dug in forces.

Are you sure there would be no explosion? From what I understand there might just be one. After all, railgun rounds (depending on the velocity) and meteors can explode on impact...
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| April 26, 2013, 11:28 pm
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Quoting Tyro Cook
It ultimately depends on the type of kinetic rounds. of course an object reaching insane speeds and temperatures entering atmosphere will create something to the effect of a legitimate explosion, but pure kinetic force can also deal explosive like effects as well. In this scenario nothing should be entering the atmosphere now should it?

Maybe I just don't understand what you are saying, but yes, the rod would be entering the atmosphere since it pretty much starts in space.

Anyways, I just realised that as of now there are no production rules for these types of missiles. Also, for those wanting to learn more about this concept beyond what you will find on wikipedia (albiet, this site only adresses using satelittes as delivery systems), check this out: http://orbitalvector.com/Space%20Weapons/Orbital%20Bombardment/ORBITAL%20BOMBARDMENT.htm
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| April 27, 2013, 3:47 am
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I'm currently building a plane. If I put a crusiser missile with stealth capability, would it ruin the plane's stealth capability?
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| April 27, 2013, 4:49 am
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Quoting Tyro Cook
I'd say it depends on the design of the missiles. I'm sure it's possible to produce missiles with a low radar signature. They could also potentially be stored in internal bays if you're worried about stealth.
I'm talking about a missile like this: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taurus_KEPD_350
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| April 27, 2013, 5:20 am
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Ok, my philosophy of being very aggressive in this group has led to some conflict in real life. I would like to know where people stand in this. Although Zach thinks that I unfairly picked on him, my forces are far from complete, with no navy or conventional Air Force and only a handful of vehicle types, so It might have been an interesting war. The problem is, in this group, we are supposed to be militarised factions, competing for resources and dominance, but nobody wants to get involved in anything. That is why no wars have happened yet. Whenever I act aggressively, the other person takes personal offence and I feel bad. Is their anyone here that actually wants to get involved in a war with someone any time soon? Otherwise,we are just going to fill up the map and sit on our territories for another few months until the group gets boring and closes. Believe it or not, I am trying to help the group by attacking people. What we need is a threat that will kick start a global conflict. Surprisingly, hunter beck was along the right lines with his ideas. If people are ok with it, I think that some off the alliances need to get into a war with each other. Then the smaller nations needn't get worried, but the group will get really interesting. If squid is ok with it, I think that the CFF needs to declare war on one of the other alliances. If this goes ahead, remember that this wouldn't be anything personal, and that whoever is involved would have pretty much an equal chance of winning.
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| April 27, 2013, 6:30 am
You dont have navy? You shouldnt EVER tell me that when I have a full supercarrier fleet. I may have had no chance on land but I think I couldve done even more damage than expected if we'd fought. Meantime, maybe you and I can have a mutual agreement to help one another seeing as we each have thing the other lacks.
^.^ global domination anyone? (hint hint)
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| April 27, 2013, 8:42 am
For teh record, my missiles look nothing like Squid's. Their operation is somewhat similar, but the entire design is essentially backwards compared to his.
My shell does have extreme mass and is dropped from the edge of space. The actuall US militarty 'Rods from God" system (isn't built, phew) is 36000 feet per second on impact. Based on teh size of my shell (absolutely massive) plus that impact speed, and did spend 20 minutes yesterday figuring this with a calulator, is 11.84 megatons of energy expended upon impact. We do plan multiple different types of shell forging to create different impact characteristics.

I still dont think a solid slug gets much of an explosion, it's probably pretty hard to get tungsten to critical mass.
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| April 27, 2013, 8:48 am
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i'm currently planning on building a hover tank and i'm wondering if the recoil of the main gun might be strong enough to push it back a little?
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| April 27, 2013, 9:02 am
Quite probably. Unless you have drive motors that push it forward that you can fire at low power when shooting, your probably going to move back a few inches.
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| April 27, 2013, 9:06 am
Question.
The NCA has been doing research into antimatter bombs and has, after some computations, that an antimatter bomb with the maximum allowable 2 kiloton yield only requires 46.6 miligrams of antimatter. Our research has yet to yield a conclusive answer whether this is nuclear or not. We do know it has zero fallout but we need a concrete answer on the nuclear part for it to be usable. We would like an answer soon so we may begin construction on several new cold fusion reactors to begin siphining antimatter.
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| April 27, 2013, 9:28 pm
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Quoting Zach Sykes; Master of all Things Mars
Question.
The NCA has been doing research into antimatter bombs and has, after some computations, that an antimatter bomb with the maximum allowable 2 kiloton yield only requires 46.6 miligrams of antimatter. Our research has yet to yield a conclusive answer whether this is nuclear or not. We do know it has zero fallout but we need a concrete answer on the nuclear part for it to be usable. We would like an answer soon so we may begin construction on several new cold fusion reactors to begin siphining antimatter.

This is exactly how Gaufran packs so much power into relatively small Pegasus cruise missiles. They are very expensive, but compact, so hard to shoot down. They use anti nitrogen, which, though harder to obtain than anti hydrogen, explodes on contact with the air when the missile hits.
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| April 28, 2013, 6:45 am
Quoting jack kenyon
This is exactly how Gaufran packs so much power into relatively small Pegasus cruise missiles. They are very expensive, but compact, so hard to shoot down. They use anti nitrogen, which, though harder to obtain than anti hydrogen, explodes on contact with the air when the missile hits.

We are very happy to hear this and are now beginning production of antimatter generation facilitys. We have already developed a prototype warhead that weighs only 30ibs and can contain the legal limit of antimtter
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| April 28, 2013, 7:57 am
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Quoting Zach Sykes; Master of all Things Mars
(isn't built, phew) is 36000 feet per second on impact. Based on teh size of my shell (absolutely massive) plus that impact speed, and did spend 20 minutes yesterday figuring this with a calulator, is 11.84 megatons of energy expended upon impact.

The US goverment disagrees with you,
Rods from god travels at Mach 10
"10,266 feet per second" and has the force of 11 tons of Tnt.
Also ICBMs are legal, as far as I can tell an ICBM isnt a true orbital weapon, so banning them doesnt make that much sense. Then what will submarines, and Scud style laucher fire?
Also Kinetic weapons are considered conventional so they are not banned in real life. SALT prohibits WMDs in space, "Nuclear, Biological, Chemical" conventional weapons are legal.
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| April 28, 2013, 1:51 pm
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Quoting Nightmaresquid º Then what will submarines, and Scud style laucher fire?
Actually, fireworks would look real nice. Imagine it, you are in the middle of the fight, enemy fires fireworks. It distracts you while they sneak up on you. Maybe Traxxus will make a weapon like that. It will be unstoppable combined with their rainbow spitting engines.
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| April 28, 2013, 1:59 pm
Quoting Tyro Cook
We are currently working on a crop duster aircraft that will spray concentrated cannabis smoke at the enemy to make them too happy and hungry to fight XD

LMAO!!!!! Their eyes'll be too glazed to shoot straight!
Now I have to go make a weed weapon.

And Squid, if that is true than my source disagrees with teh US Government. I didn't make 36000 fps up. Now I just need to remember what tungsten rod weapon is supposed to deliver that.
Even still at a third teh speed, my quick guesstimation is that my yield will still be about 3 megatons.
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| April 28, 2013, 2:22 pm
Quoting Tyro Cook
We are currently working on a crop duster aircraft that will spray concentrated cannabis smoke at the enemy to make them too happy and hungry to fight XD

The NCA has succesfully created a gas designed for delivery via explosives (grenades, mortars, maybe tank shells). One whiff of this gas is equal to instantly smoking a megajoint (Wartning, this link does show a real megajoint, if your under 13, view at your own risk!(http://s57.photobucket.com/user/adresaklumea/media/funny%20pictures/big-joint.jpg.html).

If this doesnt kill the soldiers instantly, they will be unable to fight for hours. There is even a chance they become so hungry as to cannibalize each other.
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| April 28, 2013, 2:43 pm
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Quoting Zach Sykes; Master of all Things Mars
And Squid, if that is true than my source disagrees with teh US Government. I didn't make 36000 fps up. Now I just need to remember what tungsten rod weapon is supposed to deliver that.
Even still at a third teh speed, my quick guesstimation is that my yield will still be about 3 megatons.

Yes, sources can say differnt things, and 10,000 isnt far off from 30,000. Did you take into account atmosphere resistance? The round wont simply hit the earth. Aside from that I think the US airforces scientists are smarter than all of us.

Heres some more links if needed
http://www.nytimes.com/2006/12/10/magazine/10section3a.t-9.html?_r=0
http://www.sfgate.com/opinion/article/RODS-FROM-GOD-Imagine-a-bundle-of-telephone-2539690.php
http://www.wired.com/science/discoveries/news/2004/02/62358?currentPage=2
http://www.guardian.co.uk/science/2005/may/19/spaceexploration.usnews

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| April 28, 2013, 2:53 pm
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Quoting Tyro Cook
We are currently working on a crop duster aircraft that will spray concentrated cannabis smoke at the enemy to make them too happy and hungry to fight XD

OoooHHHhhhhh YyyHHEEEEEAAAAA!!!!!
Thats both effective, and humanitarian.
If anything you will be doing the enemy a good deed.
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| April 28, 2013, 2:59 pm
Quoting Tyro Cook
My word! A- I was joking, and B- I don't even want to know how you know what a megajoint is....

I was joking too. I just made a bigger joke out of it than you did.
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| April 28, 2013, 3:01 pm
Quoting Nightmaresquid º
Yes, sources can say differnt things, and 10,000 isnt far off from 30,000. Did you take into account atmosphere resistance? The round wont simply hit the earth. Aside from that I think the US airforces scientists are smarter than all of us.

Heres some more links if needed
http://www.nytimes.com/2006/12/10/magazine/10section3a.t-9.html?_r=0
http://www.sfgate.com/opinion/article/RODS-FROM-GOD-Imagine-a-bundle-of-telephone-2539690.php
http://www.wired.com/science/discoveries/news/2004/02/62358?currentPage=2
http://www.guardian.co.uk/science/2005/may/19/spaceexploration.usnews

I also have to take into account the fact that my round is heavier than the US millitary one by a couple orders of magnitude.
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| April 28, 2013, 3:03 pm
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Quoting Nightmaresquid º

I built an airship with a 203mm railgun, it can do the same as the ICBM version but has much more guns. It is basically a big artillery emplacement flying at high speeds. Btw what would be an appropriate speed for such vehicle? It is about three times the Air Dreadnought in length. I'm thinking about 600-900 km/h.
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| April 28, 2013, 3:13 pm
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Quoting Zach Sykes; Master of all Things Mars
I also have to take into account the fact that my round is heavier than the US millitary one by a couple orders of magnitude.

How are you making the element denser? Lets keep it realistic. Lets just say they need to be under 2 kilotons to comply with the group rules anyway. Even if they could be more powerfull, a doomsday weapon isnt going the be allowed, 11 megatons of penatration might even split open the w... well it wouldnt be good.
Keep it at well under 2kilotons.
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| April 28, 2013, 3:19 pm
Quoting Nightmaresquid º
How are you making the element denser? Lets keep it realistic. Lets just say they need to be under 2 kilotons to comply with the group rules anyway. Even if they could be more powerfull, a doomsday weapon isnt going the be allowed, 11 megatons of penatration might even split open the w... well it wouldnt be good.
Keep it at well under 2kilotons.

I wasnt super far over the group rules. I was just at . . . well . . . double that weight.

EDIT: 11 megatons isnt a doomsday weapon. Thats a few square miles getting cleared out. an H-bomb is 500 megatons!
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| April 28, 2013, 3:21 pm
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Quoting Matthew Sylvan
I built an airship with a 203mm railgun, it can do the same as the ICBM version but has much more guns. It is basically a big artillery emplacement flying at high speeds. Btw what would be an appropriate speed for such vehicle? It is about three times the Air Dreadnought in length. I'm thinking about 600-900 km/h.

It cant be over Mach-1, these new airships are a lot like Vtol aircraft, they are much heavier, so would go much slower.
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| April 28, 2013, 3:23 pm
Quoting Matthew Sylvan
I built an airship with a 203mm railgun, it can do the same as the ICBM version but has much more guns. It is basically a big artillery emplacement flying at high speeds. Btw what would be an appropriate speed for such vehicle? It is about three times the Air Dreadnought in length. I'm thinking about 600-900 km/h.

If your talking about the Reaper, it isnt 3 times longer. It's at least 5, probably more like 7.
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| April 28, 2013, 3:23 pm
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Quoting Zach Sykes; Master of all Things Mars
EDIT: 11 megatons isnt a doomsday weapon. Thats a few square miles getting cleared out. an H-bomb is 500 megatons!

Nope the largest nuclear weapon ever created was the Tsar Bomba a 50 mega ton weapon.
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| April 28, 2013, 3:25 pm
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Quoting Zach Sykes; Master of all Things Mars
I wasnt super far over the group rules. I was just at . . . well . . . double that weight.

EDIT: 11 megatons isnt a doomsday weapon. Thats a few square miles getting cleared out. an H-bomb is 500 megatons!

You shouldn't push the rules Zach, nobody is happy about tis weapon system. 11 megatons is roughly 5500 times more powerful than the group allows, and the biggest hydrogen bomb ever was 50 megatons. Just give in and play fair.
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| April 28, 2013, 3:26 pm
Quoting Nightmaresquid º
Nope the largest nuclear weapon ever created was the Tsar Bomba a 50 mega ton weapon.

Now how are we able to disagree on the number of zeros? :?

More importantly, why is google a lying *****!
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| April 28, 2013, 3:28 pm
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Quoting Zach Sykes; Master of all Things Mars
If your talking about the Reaper, it isnt 3 times longer. It's at least 5, probably more like 7.

No, it's a smaller one, a real brick airship.
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| April 28, 2013, 3:29 pm
Quoting jack kenyon
You shouldn't push the rules Zach, nobody is happy about tis weapon system. 11 megatons is roughly 5500 times more powerful than the group allows, and the biggest hydrogen bomb ever was 50 megatons. Just give in and play fair.

Relax a little. I've not been feeling like wasting all that tungsten for no reason. That and I am busy with stomping some inactive players to help my alliance expand, no reason dropping a rod on a guy not here to see it..
If you're really feeling triggerhappy, you can start a war soon as I am done down south but I don't see why you'd start a war over whether I can use a weapon or not. If war comes then you can guarantee I'll be using every weapon I got. That and I still sont have the launch rocket working just right yet, problems with teh first stage.
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| April 28, 2013, 3:35 pm
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Quoting Nightmaresquid º
It cant be over Mach-1, these new airships are a lot like Vtol aircraft, they are much heavier, so would go much slower.

I know it can't be over Mach 1. Its maximum speed will be around 850km/h. The Airbus A380 can go with 1020km/h but it's much more aerodynamic.

For propulsion it will either use an Experimental Fusion Reactor that powers the subsonic rotorblades. Those are made of carbon nanotubes to stand the forces. The oher is some kind of hydrogen based engine. I prefer the EFR as it's much quieter and doesn't require refueling as often.
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| April 28, 2013, 3:39 pm
Quoting Matthew Sylvan
No, it's a smaller one, a real brick airship.

I don't see one on your page, unless its one of those interesting looking mircroscale ones. Is it still unposted? I look forward to seeing it if it is.
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| April 28, 2013, 3:39 pm
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Quoting Zach Sykes; Master of all Things Mars
Relax a little.

He probably only stressed that the conversation has lasted this long, I personally really love the Idea of Thor type weapons, and want to see them used. I don’t however want them to be super OP. Limits need to be placed on them.

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| April 28, 2013, 3:46 pm
Quoting Nightmaresquid º
He probably only stressed that the conversation has lasted this long, I personally really love the Idea of Thor type weapons, and want to see them used. I don’t however want them to be super OP. Limits need to be placed on them.

I agree. There needs to be some kind of megapowerful weapons availible but there should be a system to prevent abuse and prevent them from ripping the planet in half or taking out a whole territory at once.

P.S. I am stuck on how to add fins for stability to my first stage. If I send you the file or some pics, can you give some suggstions?
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| April 28, 2013, 3:47 pm
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Quoting Zach Sykes; Master of all Things Mars
Aftera month of succesful engine and weapon tests the Scarlet was ready to fly for its first time. No major problems happened during the flight. Currently it's over its 20th flight and it will enter service in the next few days. Its maximum speed currently is 850km/h at 20km, although it may be faster at higher altitudes. Tomorrow it will fly at 25km for the first time, but th Scarlet is combat ready.

This majestic piece of machinery possesses reduced stealth capability. However, it can be spotted at 150km but its guns have greater range than that.

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| April 28, 2013, 4:00 pm
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Quoting Zach Sykes; Master of all Things Mars
P.S. I am stuck on how to add fins for stability to my first stage. If I send you the file or some pics, can you give some suggstions?
I can definiately help with that. Send the file over to adjalpezt0@citromail.hu and I will figure out one.

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| April 28, 2013, 4:02 pm
Quoting Matthew Sylvan
Quoting Zach Sykes; Master of all Things Mars
Aftera month of succesful engine and weapon tests the Scarlet was ready to fly for its first time. No major problems happened during the flight. Currently it's over its 20th flight and it will enter service in the next few days. Its maximum speed currently is 850km/h at 20km, although it may be faster at higher altitudes. Tomorrow it will fly at 25km for the first time, but th Scarlet is combat ready.

This majestic piece of machinery possesses reduced stealth capability. However, it can be spotted at 150km but its guns have greater range than that.

Cant wait to see it. The sky is now a dangerous place for a dreadnought and I may need to add some auxilary long range weapons to my aerial warship now.
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| April 28, 2013, 4:02 pm
Quoting Matthew Sylvan
Quoting Zach Sykes; Master of all Things Mars
P.S. I am stuck on how to add fins for stability to my first stage. If I send you the file or some pics, can you give some suggstions?
I can definiately help with that. Send the file over to adjalpezt0@citromail.hu and I will figure out one.

I sent you what I have. That file also has teh prometheus satellites in it too. The piledriver should be pretty obvious. It should also be rather clear which piledriver is teh one that needs fins.

UPDATE: I am working on it right now and I think I have something. It is'nt the prettiest but it works.

EDIT: Oh darn. I was reading through this too fast and I thought it was Squid who offered help. Now I feel stupid cuz I adressed teh email to squid when I sent it. Sorry Matthew.
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| April 28, 2013, 4:05 pm
I have a question about Combat Plans. Are they for each battle or for the whole strategy?
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| April 28, 2013, 6:50 pm
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I will still help.
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| April 29, 2013, 12:09 am
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Quoting Zach Sykes; Master of all Things Mars
I wasnt super far over the group rules. I was just at . . . well . . . double that weight.

EDIT: 11 megatons isnt a doomsday weapon. Thats a few square miles getting cleared out. an H-bomb is 500 megatons!

Umm.. you really are overestimating nuclear weapon firepower here, and no, you can't have materials 100 times denser than tungsten (not to mention it would be insanely difficult to get into orbit even if this material was allowed.)
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| April 29, 2013, 1:27 am
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Quoting Colin Small
I have a question about Combat Plans. Are they for each battle or for the whole strategy?

One week's worth of strategy.
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| April 29, 2013, 1:33 am
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Quoting Matthew Sylvan
No, it's a smaller one, a real brick airship.

Mini scale? If not, that thing is gonna be massive. Bear in mind the dreadnought weighs over ten pounds.
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| April 29, 2013, 12:37 pm
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Quoting Nightmaresquid º
He probably only stressed that the conversation has lasted this long, I personally really love the Idea of Thor type weapons, and want to see them used. I don’t however want them to be super OP. Limits need to be placed on them.

The problem come if we allow them for one person. Then everyone will make them and then what? It comes back to the point of building. This is a lego group, and spending a fairly small amount of time on something, then saying that it is some massively powerful weapon system isn't really in the spirit of the group. It isn't that nobody else in the group has thought of these things, it is just that they would Ron the way the game is played. The whole thing seems far too much like the hammer of dawn to me.
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| April 29, 2013, 12:43 pm
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Quoting Matthew Sylvan
Quoting Zach Sykes; Master of all Things Mars
Aftera month of succesful engine and weapon tests the Scarlet was ready to fly for its first time. No major problems happened during the flight. Currently it's over its 20th flight and it will enter service in the next few days. Its maximum speed currently is 850km/h at 20km, although it may be faster at higher altitudes. Tomorrow it will fly at 25km for the first time, but th Scarlet is combat ready.

In light of recent development of aerial warships by both the NCA and tongoria, Gaufran has accelerated the design phase of the Mammut (mammoth) anti dreadnought weapons system. Following the approach of simpler is better, this system doesn't use missiles or scattering projectiles, neither is it airborne, as such a platform would limit the power possible. When complete, no airships will be safe, as the system is being tested against the armour of both the reaper and the eagle class.



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| April 29, 2013, 12:50 pm
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Quoting jack kenyon
Mini scale? If not, that thing is gonna be massive. Bear in mind the dreadnought weighs over ten pounds.
Sadly, I don't have enough bricks for that. It us built in the same scale as my Reaper and your mini Dreadnought.

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| April 29, 2013, 12:57 pm
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Quoting Matthew Sylvan
Quoting jack kenyon
Mini scale? If not, that thing is gonna be massive. Bear in mind the dreadnought weighs over ten pounds.
Sadly, I don't have enough bricks for that. It us built in the same scale as my Reaper and your mini Dreadnought.

Ah, the cute little mini dreadnought, but like anything else in life, the more you zoom in, the nastier it looks! Even though I could, I won't build a mini scale airship more powerful than the dreadnought. I prefer to keep things within a limit, and building a mini model that supposedly is much better than that monster in my shelf would just feel wrong.
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| April 29, 2013, 2:20 pm
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Quoting jack kenyon
I understand that, but building something in mini scale sized like your Dreadnought wouldn't look the best, so I made something bigger.

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| April 29, 2013, 2:37 pm
The NCA would like to apoligize for making other nations uncomfortable, as evidenced by the increase in research of anti-dreadnought systems. To put minds at ease, we have made the announcement that we are discontinuing production of the Piledriver.
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| April 29, 2013, 3:39 pm
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Quoting Matthew Sylvan
Quoting jack kenyon
I understand that, but building something in mini scale sized like your Dreadnought wouldn't look the best, so I made something bigger.

Do you think that the Eagle can take on the Reaper?
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| April 29, 2013, 3:47 pm
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Quoting Christian Bish
Do you think that the Eagle can take on the Reaper?
The Grim Reaper is better at longer ranges as the Eagle can't use its slow guns as effectively. My guns also have a faster rate of fire(smaller caliber) meaning a bigger chance of hit.

Against the Ariete, I don't think it has a chance if the laser is aimed at it.

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| April 29, 2013, 4:32 pm
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Hey guys! I made my most epic looking jet so far. Check it out in the INF 4 convo. In my opinion, it is the most unique lookig jet in the group.
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| April 29, 2013, 4:35 pm
Well, after a battle with obnoxious DDoSers that pretty much killed my enthusiasm for the internet, I'm back.


I'm sure you all care deeply.
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| April 29, 2013, 5:54 pm
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Quoting Vallkirimrl _
Well, after a battle with obnoxious DDoSers that pretty much killed my enthusiasm for the internet, I'm back.


I'm sure you all care deeply.

Why were you being attacked? Anyway, believe it or not, it actually is nice to have you back. :)
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| April 29, 2013, 5:58 pm
Quoting Matthew McCall
Why were you being attacked? Anyway, believe it or not, it actually is nice to have you back. :)

Minecraft, it's ridiculously common nowadays, although not to the extent this person operated at.

And thanks :D
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| April 29, 2013, 6:06 pm
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Quoting Vallkirimrl _
Minecraft, it's ridiculously common nowadays, although not to the extent this person operated at.

And thanks :D

Good to hear your back, after being in a seemingly never ending cease fire with your nation I pulled out of the continent, after all I am expanding east, and was way to inflated.
The map was expanded, and some new members joined.
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| April 29, 2013, 6:21 pm
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Quoting Vallkirimrl _
Well, after a battle with obnoxious DDoSers that pretty much killed my enthusiasm for the internet, I'm back.


I'm sure you all care deeply.

Hay Valk, there has be a lot of activity while you were gone. The EFCF has deployed several new units:

YF-75 "Corsair" Long Range UAV Strike Fighter
Jormonger Mobile Artillery
Jormonger Coastal 250mm Anti-Ship Railgun

Please Take a look at them and the EFCF would like to see what you have to say about it. Would the Republic like to trade a few of the new units, and a couple of the Jormonger coastal guns.
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| April 29, 2013, 6:24 pm
People do care :3

@ Tyro- I'll try not to be a warmonger :p
@ Nightmare- and where might I find dis new map?
@ Christian- The Jormonger certainly looks awesome
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| April 29, 2013, 6:38 pm
Quoting Vallkirimrl _
People do care :3

@ Tyro- I'll try not to be a warmonger :p
@ Nightmare- and where might I find dis new map?
@ Christian- The Jormonger certainly looks awesome

I have had some private diplomatic discussions I have been meaning to have with you and Bish from day 1. Now that you are back, I can finaly get around to having them. I understand that you have a specific set of relations with some people that may come in handy . . .
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| April 29, 2013, 7:33 pm
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Quoting Vallkirimrl _
People do care :3

@ Tyro- I'll try not to be a warmonger :p
@ Nightmare- and where might I find dis new map?
@ Christian- The Jormonger certainly looks awesome

Since David left Ive been in charge of the maps, You can find a satalite map, and the new map on the homepage "click on the images for a new link".
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| April 29, 2013, 8:13 pm
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Quoting Vallkirimrl _
People do care :3

@ Tyro- I'll try not to be a warmonger :p
@ Nightmare- and where might I find dis new map?
@ Christian- The Jormonger certainly looks awesome

Thanks, are you interested in trading vehicles.
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| April 29, 2013, 8:30 pm
Quoting Tyro Cook
Traxxus has developed the worlds first ever 29th generation fighter and we urge you to check it out.
http://www.mocpages.com/image_zoom.php?mocid=352487&id=/user_images/74697/1358998470m_DISPLAY.jpg

-_-
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| April 29, 2013, 9:04 pm
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Quoting Tyro Cook
Traxxus has developed the worlds first ever 29th generation fighter and we urge you to check it out.
http://www.mocpages.com/image_zoom.php?mocid=352487&id=/user_images/74697/1358998470m_DISPLAY.jpg

A wild troll appeared! XD
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| April 29, 2013, 10:08 pm
Quoting Christian Bish
Thanks, are you interested in trading vehicles.

Sure, I have a new hover tank coming out if you want that.
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| April 29, 2013, 10:17 pm
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Quoting Vallkirimrl _
Sure, I have a new hover tank coming out if you want that.

What would you like.
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| April 29, 2013, 10:33 pm
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Hey Valk,since you left, I have expanded considerably and became a very aggressive nation. So far, I have nearly had two wars since you left. On that point, squid may have pulled out of the west, but I am still there, and I really, really need a war right now. }:-)
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| April 30, 2013, 12:45 pm
Quoting jack kenyon
Hey Valk,since you left, I have expanded considerably and became a very aggressive nation. So far, I have nearly had two wars since you left. On that point, squid may have pulled out of the west, but I am still there, and I really, really need a war right now. }:-)
Well then, a war we shall have, considering I dropped off right as we were about to go to war. I wanna see how quickly I can knock your aerial dreadnought (looks awesome, btw) out of the sky :D

Just out of curiosity, has the group progressed very far, tech level wise?

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| April 30, 2013, 2:32 pm
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Quoting Vallkirimrl _
Quoting jack kenyon
Hey Valk,since you left, I have expanded considerably and became a very aggressive nation. So far, I have nearly had two wars since you left. On that point, squid may have pulled out of the west, but I am still there, and I really, really need a war right now. }:-)
Well then, a war we shall have, considering I dropped off right as we were about to go to war.

Just out of curiosity, has the group progressed very far, tech level wise?

There was a lot of aircraft Tech and trade increase. A couple of days ago, it was trade galore, Every one was trading with each other. I traded 1 Golem-Class Supercarrier for 40 F/A-40 Zeus.
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| April 30, 2013, 2:42 pm
Quoting Vallkirimrl _
Quoting jack kenyon
Hey Valk,since you left, I have expanded considerably and became a very aggressive nation. So far, I have nearly had two wars since you left. On that point, squid may have pulled out of the west, but I am still there, and I really, really need a war right now. }:-)
Well then, a war we shall have, considering I dropped off right as we were about to go to war. I wanna see how quickly I can knock your aerial dreadnought (looks awesome, btw) out of the sky :D

Just out of curiosity, has the group progressed very far, tech level wise?

The NCA would like to announce that it will be offering discounts to its warring neighbors. IF either nation is interested in the purchase of any item, please let me know in ITF.
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| April 30, 2013, 3:08 pm
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Quoting Vallkirimrl _
Quoting jack kenyon
Hey Valk,since you left, I have expanded considerably and became a very aggressive nation. So far, I have nearly had two wars since you left. On that point, squid may have pulled out of the west, but I am still there, and I really, really need a war right now. }:-)
Well then, a war we shall have, considering I dropped off right as we were about to go to war. I wanna see how quickly I can knock your aerial dreadnought (looks awesome, btw) out of the sky :D

Just out of curiosity, has the group progressed very far, tech level wise?

Thanks for the complement about the dreadnought, anyways, three nations are competing t produce 7th generation fighters. The Traxxus corp has made a prototype technology demonstrator, tongoria is about to release theirs, which is similar, and in top secret bases deep in eastern Gaufran, a new king of the skies is stretching it's wings.nalthough, you won't see it for a few months, as I have exams coming and will wait until afterwards to break the dreadnought. When I do, my dozens of drawings will become reality, and I will become the most powerful nation in new Babylon! Maw, ha ha ha haaaa!
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| April 30, 2013, 3:11 pm
Quoting jack kenyon
Thanks for the complement about the dreadnought, anyways, three nations are competing t produce 7th generation fighters. The Traxxus corp has made a prototype technology demonstrator, tongoria is about to release theirs, which is similar, and in top secret bases deep in eastern Gaufran, a new king of the skies is stretching it's wings.nalthough, you won't see it for a few months, as I have exams coming and will wait until afterwards to break the dreadnought. When I do, my dozens of drawings will become reality, and I will become the most powerful nation in new Babylon! Maw, ha ha ha haaaa!

Okay, thats just being arrogant. I am too busy stomping some inactive players to deal with that right now though. I am curious to see who else beggs to differ with that last line?
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| April 30, 2013, 3:31 pm
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Quoting jack kenyon
When I do, my dozens of drawings will become reality, and I will become the most powerful nation in new Babylon! Maw, ha ha ha haaaa!
I will become even more powerful! Maw, ha ha ha ha ha ha ha haaaa! *evil grin*
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| April 30, 2013, 4:21 pm
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Quoting Zach Sykes; Master of all Things Mars
Okay, thats just being arrogant. I am too busy stomping some inactive players to deal with that right now though. I am curious to see who else beggs to differ with that last line?

Called a joke Zach. Matthew got it.
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| April 30, 2013, 4:25 pm
Quoting jack kenyon
Thanks for the complement about the dreadnought, anyways, three nations are competing t produce 7th generation fighters. The Traxxus corp has made a prototype technology demonstrator, tongoria is about to release theirs, which is similar, and in top secret bases deep in eastern Gaufran, a new king of the skies is stretching it's wings.nalthough, you won't see it for a few months, as I have exams coming and will wait until afterwards to break the dreadnought. When I do, my dozens of drawings will become reality, and I will become the most powerful nation in new Babylon! Maw, ha ha ha haaaa!

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH NO

The Republic (utterly outmatched at this point) shall eat up your defense budget in a terrorist war of anti-occupation.

7th gen as in Scramjet? I've got a coupla prototypes thrown together from D&C, might wanna try making one myself.
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| April 30, 2013, 6:10 pm
Quoting Tyro Cook
It involves scramjet + turbofan Tri-engine configuration with 3-dimensional thrust vectoring as well as an inboard power system, photonics, and directed energy weaponry with an A.I. To run all of it.

Im gonna make one last offer. I really dont care about any of the Gen 7 tech, I just want to know the technique you used to get the wings to be structuraly sound at that angle. I am producing a gen 6 heavy assault fighter that I want to use that wing configuration on.
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| April 30, 2013, 6:42 pm
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Quoting Vallkirimrl _
BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH NO

The Republic (utterly outmatched at this point) shall eat up your defense budget in a terrorist war of anti-occupation.

7th gen as in Scramjet? I've got a coupla prototypes thrown together from D&C, might wanna try making one myself.


Valk, you are not alone. I here to help you in anyway possible. Could you comment on the latest creation made please.
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| April 30, 2013, 6:51 pm
Quoting Tyro Cook
Traxxus isn't even quite certain the current wing configuration will make it onto the planned production model. All I am permitted to say is that it involves very sturdy alloy and gyroscopes.

I am trying to explain that I am talking builder to builder, not in character here.
Builder to builder, what kind of tehcniqe did you use on those wings. Just straight hinges would flop around if the model were real brick. How did you do it or is it exploiting lousy LDD physics?
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| April 30, 2013, 6:58 pm
Quoting Christian Bish

Valk, you are not alone. I here to help you in anyway possible. Could you comment on the latest creation made please.

If we are going 7th gen, I am trying to get a technique from tyro so I can get my 6h gen looking the way I want. I doubt the NCA is in any position to be working on a 7th gen fighter project but we would like to begin a joint 7th gen fighter project between the ODF and the Alliance of Free People.
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| April 30, 2013, 7:00 pm
All ye Aviation guys, the army is the real service!
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| April 30, 2013, 7:04 pm
Quoting Vallkirimrl _
All ye Aviation guys, the army is the real service!

I have good tanks thank you!

And Tyro, now that you see what my real goal is here, would you reconsider me asking for the file, or at least a partially stripped down version?
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| April 30, 2013, 7:10 pm
Quoting Christian Bish

Among rising tensions, as an effort to maintain peace Costigar presents the idea of a formation of the United Council. The Council will be a collection of politicians from their respective nations. The Council will vote on topics ranging from weapon limitations to trade routes. The Council is not an alliance though, nations in the Council are not obligated to defend other nations. In fact, nations in the Council can declare war on other nations in the Councik, albeit facing consequences for doing so.
Nations wanting to join please respond.

What ever happened to this concept? The NCA still supports the idea and would like to see if any interest remains.
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| April 30, 2013, 8:14 pm
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Quoting Zach Eli "Sierra" Sykes
Quoting Christian Bish

Among rising tensions, as an effort to maintain peace Costigar presents the idea of a formation of the United Council. The Council will be a collection of politicians from their respective nations. The Council will vote on topics ranging from weapon limitations to trade routes. The Council is not an alliance though, nations in the Council are not obligated to defend other nations. In fact, nations in the Council can declare war on other nations in the Councik, albeit facing consequences for doing so.
Nations wanting to join please respond.

What ever happened to this concept? The NCA still supports the idea and would like to see if any interest remains.

The Conglomerate has declared it is not interested in such a concept due to it lowering the chances of war occuring (besides the metagame reason that we can't all just sit around and not attack each other, the Conglomerate at least in theory is a major international arms seller.)
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| April 30, 2013, 8:22 pm
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Quoting Matthew McCall
The Conglomerate at least in theory is a major international arms seller.)

International Arms seller?????

When I ask, you said "I only trade with Allies" Matt.
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| April 30, 2013, 10:21 pm
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Quoting Tyro Cook
I just now realized that what i'm doing is, in essence, a smaller version of what you've been doing all along.....how pathetic of me :p

Well, the thing is that I'm not actually doing this type of stuff in game very much, it's more of just a backstory. XD
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| April 30, 2013, 11:08 pm
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Quoting Christian Bish
International Arms seller?????

When I ask, you said "I only trade with Allies" Matt.

The whole arms trader thing is just a back story, I've never really gotten around to doing much of that stuff in any of the games the Conglomerate has appeared in.
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| April 30, 2013, 11:11 pm
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Quoting Tyro Cook
It involves scramjet + turbofan Tri-engine configuration with 3-dimensional thrust vectoring as well as an inboard power system, photonics, and directed energy weaponry with an A.I. To run all of it.

I have a more compact design for the black eagle. It is similar to the engines of the Sr71 blackbird. My twin engined jet will have high powered turbojets that have the ability to bypass the turbine and compressor stages, using internal shock cones to convert into a ramjet mid flight. As the aircraft accelerates, the shock cones move, directing more and more airflow into a ring shaped inlet which fits around the standard turbojet. The shock cones and the inlets decelerate the supersonic airflow to subsonic speeds, compressing it, before it feeds directly into the normal combustion chamber. Valves shut off the turbine, and the exhaust gases are blown straight out. This is more compact than pure ramjets paired with separate turbojets, and grants a higher power to weight ratio.
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| May 1, 2013, 12:43 pm
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Jack, why don't you use a pulse detonation engine? It has less moving parts than a normal engine, better heat and fuel efficiency.
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| May 1, 2013, 1:34 pm
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Forgot to add my new jet to the group xD Wondered why it had only a few views.
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| May 1, 2013, 1:52 pm
It's bad enough I have to build my military ordinance, but now we have to apply and understand the physics of them? >.>
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| May 1, 2013, 2:53 pm
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Quoting Vallkirimrl _
It's bad enough I have to build my military ordinance, but now we have to apply and understand the physics of them? >.>

Well, you are basically a weapon designer here and in order to work, it needs to be realistic. However, there are people who can do this for you if needed.
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| May 1, 2013, 2:58 pm
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Quoting Vallkirimrl _
It's bad enough I have to build my military ordinance, but now we have to apply and understand the physics of them? >.>

Yeah, like Matthew said, people (like me) are willing to do calculations for you instead of simply spouting some random numbers. So you can concentrate on the building and let others do the hard work for you. ;)
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| May 1, 2013, 3:09 pm
I am going to begin an experiment. I want to see if, with proper limitations, a D&C style game can have space weapons and/or WMDs without them ruining the game. Would anyone like to give me a few suggestions and pointers before I start setting the experiment up?
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| May 2, 2013, 5:32 pm
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Today I dreamt about this group. I clearly saw the map and I declared war on the nation south to me, Costigar because of its annexiaton plans. Although, its color looked like the Conglomerate's.
It can mean two things. I will attack Costigar or Conglomerate will take all territories of Costigar and I will attack it for some reason. However, he is my ally.

It might not mean anything, just thought I would share it with you.
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| May 3, 2013, 12:42 am
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Quoting Matthew Sylvan
Today I dreamt about this group. I clearly saw the map and I declared war on the nation south to me, Costigar because of its annexiaton plans. Although, its color looked like the Conglomerate's.
It can mean two things. I will attack Costigar or Conglomerate will take all territories of Costigar and I will attack it for some reason. However, he is my ally.

It might not mean anything, just thought I would share it with you.

Option number 3: It was just a dream. ;)
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| May 3, 2013, 1:39 am
Quoting Tyro Cook

I have a suggestion, don't try it. Trust me. Even the best of us weren't able to make it work. Mike Rutherford, both Matts, Nightmare, and even me ran into problem after problem after problem. I would sincerely advise you to save your time and energy.

I am putting maybe 25% efforrt into D&C right now and that's all I need. 25%D&C, 50% building, 25% school.

I can slow my building a bit and put som eeffort into trying this. I think it's possible to do, not easy, but possible.

And Sylvan, Can I get some help, dreadnought help? I wanted to do the hull of mine in an almost, wait, can't share these details. If you cann help and want more info, shoot me an email. you should already have it but if you dont:
Zmackme14@yahoo.com
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| May 3, 2013, 6:29 am
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Quoting Matthew McCall
Option number 3: It was just a dream. ;)

It was still cool seeing some of my creations alive.
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| May 3, 2013, 6:52 am
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Hey squid, are you going to get involved in the war or will you hold back. If you aren't involved, can we borrow some of your forces, as I haven't had time to make my APC or fighter jets yet. Can I borrow about a hundred APCs, those twenty VTOL fighters you were going to give me before, and some of your new air superiority ones? I promise I won't scratch the paint.
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| May 3, 2013, 1:37 pm
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Quoting Tyro Cook
Traxxis will lend you 30 SK-105 skyraiders. Which have STOVL capability and are highly effective against ground units. We also have rotorcraft, just tell me what you need.

Currently we have no conventional Air Force, no troop transport vehicles and no navy. We don't need the navy for this war, but we would like to borrow the sky raiders, any APC you have, and any sort of transport planes or troop transport helicopters. I have 23000 airborne troops with nothing to carry them yet, so any Traxxus help would be much appreciated. As I said to squid, when I can, I will return them in mint condition, or pay for losses.
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| May 3, 2013, 2:49 pm
Tyro. THe NCA is currently at war with the BU and is in the market for amphibious APCs, LAVs, AFVs, and HAAVs. The old talo gear looks like something we would like. Knowing your building style, you'll likely whip up something similar. We would be interested in executing a field test of any prototypes you are willing to lend us.
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| May 3, 2013, 3:41 pm
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Quoting Tyro Cook
We have amphibious troop transport and gunships and we can develop an APC as quickly as you need it. Our engineers will work to assist you. Also, we are working on prototypes for a standard production shadowhawk, would you be interested in military field testing the 30 prototypes for us?

Sounds like a great idea, and It will provide valuable training to our pilots for when the black eagle arrives, after all, most if the systems are the same. I am honoured that you are custom designing an APC for us, we will make an indigenous one soon, but for now that would be great. What helicopters do you have to deploy troops?
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| May 3, 2013, 4:11 pm
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Quoting Tyro Cook
Glitchy mocpages not working

Try using Imageshack, Its free, trustworthy "Ive been using it for a year now".
It does have a photolimit, but its so high up Ive barly ever grazed higher than the bottom of the limit "at my most Ive posted 30 pics a week".
If you guys have noticed I use it for the map, and whenever I make a new creation I post a link on this group to an Imageshack page.
Its solved a lot of problems for me.
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| May 3, 2013, 9:28 pm
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hey guys i built a model on LDD does anyone know how to take photos of it?
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| May 4, 2013, 10:29 am
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Quoting navy person
hey guys i built a model on LDD does anyone know how to take photos of it?
Press Ctrl+K.

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| May 4, 2013, 10:34 am
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Quoting Matthew Sylvan
Quoting navy person
hey guys i built a model on LDD does anyone know how to take photos of it?
Press Ctrl+K.

thanks
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| May 4, 2013, 10:44 am
I'm such a hipster. I used tungsten before it was cool (it's funny because we use super-heated tungsten rounds). Hehe.
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| May 5, 2013, 1:38 am
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Sorry about last night, My allergies were kicking in so I had to sleep and today my nose stuffing up not as bad as yesterday.

The EFCF will be constructing a new APC and a new dropship. Any ideas will be appreciated. If you help out the EFCF, you will get the blue prints, 10 of both units and I will give you credit on the build.
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| May 5, 2013, 7:32 am
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Quoting Christian Bish
Sorry about last night, My allergies were kicking in so I had to sleep and today my nose stuffing up not as bad as yesterday.

The EFCF will be constructing a new APC and a new dropship. Any ideas will be appreciated. If you help out the EFCF, you will get the blue prints, 10 of both units and I will give you credit on the build.

you can make the APC amphibious maybe like the British BSV-10 viking

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| May 5, 2013, 8:49 am
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Quoting Tyro Cook
Why the decrease in activity fellas?

I was wondering about, the guys say that there is a war and whats up with a few new groups that were made?
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| May 6, 2013, 10:35 pm
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Quoting Tyro Cook
Why the decrease in activity fellas?

No idea, several members suddenly seem to have disappeared...
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| May 6, 2013, 10:47 pm
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Quoting Tyro Cook
Yeah, I've heard nothing from Brickviller, Zack Sykes, and Jack Kenyon. And they are the ones that were going to war.

Yeah, it's rather odd.
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| May 6, 2013, 11:35 pm
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Quoting Matthew McCall
No idea, several members suddenly seem to have disappeared...

http://i0.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/000/158/329/9189283.jpg
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| May 7, 2013, 12:51 am
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Haven't been taken by Aliens Matthew, I jus haven't seen anything to reply too, and I joined a group called I brick that is so darn active that they are spamming my activity bar. ):-(
Anyway, I have invited Mr McCall to look at my strategy. How long till Valk will have his done? I am pretty much set for the first week.
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| May 7, 2013, 12:25 pm
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Quoting jack kenyon
Haven't been taken by Aliens Matthew, I jus haven't seen anything to reply too, and I joined a group called I brick that is so darn active that they are spamming my activity bar. ):-(
Anyway, I have invited Mr McCall to look at my strategy. How long till Valk will have his done? I am pretty much set for the first week.

Yay, Jacks is alive. Do you have any idea on what I should make next, Jack?

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| May 7, 2013, 2:19 pm
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Quoting jack kenyon
Haven't been taken by Aliens Matthew, I jus haven't seen anything to reply too, and I joined a group called I brick that is so darn active that they are spamming my activity bar. ):-(
Anyway, I have invited Mr McCall to look at my strategy. How long till Valk will have his done? I am pretty much set for the first week.

I honestly don't know, as far as I know he hasn't set up a group yet.
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| May 7, 2013, 3:57 pm
Quoting Christian Bish
Sorry about last night, My allergies were kicking in so I had to sleep and today my nose stuffing up not as bad as yesterday.

The EFCF will be constructing a new APC and a new dropship. Any ideas will be appreciated. If you help out the EFCF, you will get the blue prints, 10 of both units and I will give you credit on the build.


I may be of use with the dropship help but the APC, im just as stuck as you buddy.

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| May 7, 2013, 5:40 pm
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Quoting Zach Eli "Sierra" Sykes

I may be of use with the dropship help but the APC, im just as stuck as you buddy.

Thanks and where were you? Can you make a frame of the drop ship, I can do the hull and the inside. Here is my email:

reachdefender.s505@gmail.com
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| May 7, 2013, 6:56 pm
Quoting Christian Bish
Thanks and where were you? Can you make a frame of the drop ship, I can do the hull and the inside. Here is my email:

reachdefender.s505@gmail.com

Okay, this probably looks nothing like you are expecting. Its designed to drop my spider drones so it has no similarities to a VTOL troop transport aircraft.
I'm still sending it though.
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| May 7, 2013, 6:59 pm
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Quoting Zach Eli "Sierra" Sykes
Okay, this probably looks nothing like you are expecting. Its designed to drop my spider drones so it has no similarities to a VTOL troop transport aircraft.
I'm still sending it though.

That's ok, I see what I can do.
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| May 7, 2013, 7:01 pm
Quoting Christian Bish
That's ok, I see what I can do.

I sent the email containing the dropship file as well as some other, more classified content. I cannot disclose what it is as the NCA black ops division is under order to assasinate anyone who states what extra has been delivered to the EFCF.
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| May 7, 2013, 7:43 pm
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Just to say this, when I build my creations I build them to be sturdy not stylish. there will be some detail.
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| May 7, 2013, 8:57 pm
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Quoting Christian Bish
Yay, Jacks is alive. Do you have any idea on what I should make next, Jack?

Well you have made just about every type of military vehicle possible, so I would suggest an upgrade program on some of your older stuff.
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| May 8, 2013, 12:29 pm
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is the up-loader broken? cause every time i try to upload a photo it wont appear
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| May 8, 2013, 2:57 pm
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Quoting navy person
is the up-loader broken? cause every time i try to upload a photo it wont appear

It seems so, the latest creations have no images.
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| May 8, 2013, 3:26 pm
Quoting navy person
is the up-loader broken? cause every time i try to upload a photo it wont appear

Uploader works for me. I'm using the fancy javascript uploader. I assume yall are too?
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| May 8, 2013, 5:22 pm
Quoting Tyro Cook
The problems started last thursday and it's been longer than that since you last uploaded :p

That may have something to do with it . . .
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| May 8, 2013, 6:08 pm
Just a little off topic here, but I want some confirmation on something-

http://www.nationstates.net/nation=oaledonia/detail=factbook/id=112715

Those are utterly ridiculous stats, for a country of ~260 million people and a GDP of under 3 trillion, right?

I don't want to seem like advertising (completely different website) But I just want to make sure I'm not the only one who sees it.
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| May 8, 2013, 8:43 pm
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What's up with all the cat girls in that thingy you posted? XD
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| May 8, 2013, 9:59 pm
Quoting Matthew McCall
What's up with all the cat girls in that thingy you posted? XD

I wish I knew the answer to that :d
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| May 8, 2013, 10:31 pm
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Quoting Vallkirimrl _
I wish I knew the answer to that :d

Anyway, I can't really make a judgement on a fictional society like that without more information, and even then I'm not exactly an exspert on this type of stuff despite taking having taken an economics class at school.
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| May 9, 2013, 12:13 am
Just a quick question but I've made a so-called midget submarine

(http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7449/8723078092_c68f47d4c7_h.jpg)

But I can't find a rule for them in the statistics topic. So could anyone give an indication of how many of these can be produced a week?
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| May 9, 2013, 1:06 pm
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Quoting Brickviller -
Just a quick question but I've made a so-called midget submarine

(http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7449/8723078092_c68f47d4c7_h.jpg)

But I can't find a rule for them in the statistics topic. So could anyone give an indication of how many of these can be produced a week?
Light/Stealth Submarine: 1 per week or
Small attack/Patrol Boats: 5 per week
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| May 9, 2013, 2:02 pm
I got several things that need to go up before I finish my battle plans. My F-155 Thunderhawk, my insidious class satellite (not spy, worse . . .)

On top of that, I got several things that I started and need to finish in a hurry.
A sub I had done for another purpose that I am rushing to repurpose for D&C as an attack sub.
A spy satellite
Several ground vehicles that I am waiting on blueprints from Traxxus to help with.
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| May 9, 2013, 3:55 pm
Very funny Vallk.

P.S. If oyu need planes badly, I will issue a temporary production liscence for some NCA birds.
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| May 9, 2013, 5:14 pm
Quoting Tyro Cook
Traxxus cannot lend support until the photo uploader resumes working.

MEH! Can I provide you with my email and you just wire me said photos and/or blueprints?
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| May 9, 2013, 5:23 pm
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Quoting Zach Eli "Sierra" Sykes
I got several things that need to go up before I finish my battle plans. My F-155 Thunderhawk, my insidious class satellite (not spy, worse . . .)

On top of that, I got several things that I started and need to finish in a hurry.
A sub I had done for another purpose that I am rushing to repurpose for D&C as an attack sub.
A spy satellite
Several ground vehicles that I am waiting on blueprints from Traxxus to help with.

Until the photo uploader resumes working, no one can directly add to this site, so you may want to consider putting more work into the plans and less on building. It's also bad form to make yout opponet wait when they have already finished their own plans roughly a week ago, so if at allpossbile I would like to ask you to change the priority of the plans to higher than building (it's not that hard to write them, 1-2 hours max if you really put some work into them, less depending on how much detail you want to put into them.)
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| May 9, 2013, 5:32 pm
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The Copnglomerate was worried about Valc's new super weapon until we realised that it could only effect 2 of our creations. (LDD FTW! XD )
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| May 9, 2013, 5:34 pm
Quoting Matthew McCall
Until the photo uploader resumes working, no one can directly add to this site, so you may want to consider putting more work into the plans and less on building. It's also bad form to make yout opponet wait when they have already finished their own plans roughly a week ago, so if at allpossbile I would like to ask you to change the priority of the plans to higher than building (it's not that hard to write them, 1-2 hours max if you really put some work into them, less depending on how much detail you want to put into them.)


I don't plan on missing the Sunday deadline, I just got a bunch of stuff to get done before they are complete. I may just shoot the photos of the Thunderhawk over to Flickr and then link them here. That is the only thing that is essential to my war effort.
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| May 9, 2013, 5:38 pm
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Quoting Brickviller -
Just a quick question but I've made a so-called midget submarine

(http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7449/8723078092_c68f47d4c7_h.jpg)

But I can't find a rule for them in the statistics topic. So could anyone give an indication of how many of these can be produced a week?

5 per week.
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| May 9, 2013, 5:38 pm
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Quoting Zach Eli "Sierra" Sykes

I don't plan on missing the Sunday deadline, I just got a bunch of stuff to get done before they are complete. I may just shoot the photos of the Thunderhawk over to Flickr and then link them here. That is the only thing that is essential to my war effort.

Alrighty then, everything sounds good afterall.
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| May 9, 2013, 5:40 pm
Quoting Matthew McCall

Still don't have a McCall grade critiqe on this: http://www.mocpages.com/moc.php/359594
Am cuious what you think.
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| May 9, 2013, 5:50 pm
Quoting Matthew McCall
The Copnglomerate was worried about Valc's new super weapon until we realised that it could only effect 2 of our creations. (LDD FTW! XD )


Then I shall have to consider Cyber Warfare :3

Which brings up an interesting issue-
What of cyberwarfare? What if I've been investing my military budget into that and I just take down the Gaufran machines that way? Does that factor in, or is it too complex?

If it does, I've started a computer geek recruitment drive.
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| May 9, 2013, 5:53 pm
Quoting Tyro Cook
It would be highly unintelligent, as his Traxxus aircraft and and vehicles use photonics, or fiber optics, which are highly resistant to cyber attacks. Your cyber warfare machines would be reduced to ash before you could take down so much as a gameboy.


You doubt the power of a cyber attack, don't you.

While I'm still wondering how you manage to link all your vehicles to a fiber optics cable, I'll counter your point.

Among other ways to go about it, All it takes is a password.
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| May 9, 2013, 8:44 pm
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Quoting Vallkirimrl _

Then I shall have to consider Cyber Warfare :3

Which brings up an interesting issue-
What of cyberwarfare? What if I've been investing my military budget into that and I just take down the Gaufran machines that way? Does that factor in, or is it too complex?

If it does, I've started a computer geek recruitment drive.

Company weapons use non standard technology,
First our defense computers run on an entirely different format from any other operating system, different software, so unless your geeks have our software...
A virus does damage by inserting itself into the actual code of a program. Whenever the program is run, the virus reproduces and tries to spread to other computers that use the same code. PC viruses are made on PCs, Macs on Macs, and so on.

Also our systems monitor all data. Data is downloaded into a "separate" drive, data going into the drive is monitored, and analyzed. All company data files are the same size, so if a virus is eventually written for our operating format, a larger suspicious file will cause the "quarantine" drive to be purged.

Cyber attacks work better on civilian targets, they always have.

A well placed virus could destroy economies, and thus countries, In a cyber attack don’t expect terrorists to be targeting government computers.

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| May 9, 2013, 10:59 pm
Quoting Nightmaresquid º
Company weapons use non standard technology,
First our defense computers run on an entirely different format from any other operating system, different software, so unless your geeks have our software...
A virus does damage by inserting itself into the actual code of a program. Whenever the program is run, the virus reproduces and tries to spread to other computers that use the same code. PC viruses are made on PCs, Macs on Macs, and so on.

Also our systems monitor all data. Data is downloaded into a "separate" drive, data going into the drive is monitored, and analyzed. All company data files are the same size, so if a virus is eventually written for our operating format, a larger suspicious file will cause the "quarantine" drive to be purged.

Cyber attacks work better on civilian targets, they always have.

A well placed virus could destroy economies, and thus countries, In a cyber attack don’t expect terrorists to be targeting government computers.

Specifically- "In a cyber attack don't expect terrorists to be targeting governments computers" Yea, that NEVER happens in real life. South Korea just likes to install viruses, and Dos their own websites.

Also- your system must be impressively inefficient, given all the data that your filters are destroying.
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| May 9, 2013, 11:52 pm
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Quoting Vallkirimrl _
Specifically- "In a cyber attack don't expect terrorists to be targeting governments computers" Yea, that NEVER happens in real life. South Korea just likes to install viruses, and Dos their own websites.

Also- your system must be impressively inefficient, given all the data that your filters are destroying.

You proved my point, the South Korean "bank" that was attacked was a bank... a bank.
Can you name any actual instances of killer robots turning on there controllers, or anything remotely similar, or does someone play to much COD.

Unless your planning on Emailing my defence network "file goes in trashbin", my drones wont need to deleate anything at all.
So you plan on sending multiple viuses to spam my drones so every file gets purged. Quantum processors completes the entire prosses in a fraction of a second, and there enhanced AI will still be killing things, giving them time to re download the file faster than your hackers can push buttons. Most of our drones are pre programed, and meanwhile your hackers will be getting spiked.
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| May 10, 2013, 12:27 am
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I'm pretty sure hacking isn't allowed since any attempt to do so would seem to devolve into a shouting match of "I hacked you!", "no, you failed, we have really good defenses!", "We'll, we bypasses them!", "Nope!", "Yep!", ect... :P
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| May 10, 2013, 1:15 pm
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is it possible to use lasers? cause currently the U.S military has developed LaWS (laser weapon system) which shoots a concentrated beam, which overheats the sensors of an incoming missile and disables it. would that be legal here?
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| May 10, 2013, 1:43 pm
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Quoting navy person
is it possible to use lasers? cause currently the U.S military has developed LaWS (laser weapon system) which shoots a concentrated beam, which overheats the sensors of an incoming missile and disables it. would that be legal here?
Yes, these are called defensive lasers. It works the same way as an Active-Protection system, only look cooler.
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| May 10, 2013, 2:47 pm
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Quoting navy person
is it possible to use lasers? cause currently the U.S military has developed LaWS (laser weapon system) which shoots a concentrated beam, which overheats the sensors of an incoming missile and disables it. would that be legal here?

Yes, lasers are allowed, both the type you are talking about and more powerful versions actually capable of physically destroying their targets (such weapons are in development today). Feel free to make stuff like anti aircraft laser installations, ship-mounted lasers, tank mounted "dazzlers", and even aircraft and AA vehicle with lasers. Of course, you can't have stuff like handheld lasers but feel free to use them in a wide variety of applications.
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| May 10, 2013, 2:48 pm
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Quoting Matthew McCall
I'm pretty sure hacking isn't allowed since any attempt to do so would seem to devolve into a shouting match of "I hacked you!", "no, you failed, we have really good defenses!", "We'll, we bypasses them!", "Nope!", "Yep!", ect... :P

Ah, I will update that small area of my strategy.
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| May 10, 2013, 3:27 pm
Techniqe help! I am trying to add an elevating deck gun to my new sub. Does anyone know a good mechanism to make an elevating platform (preferably without too much forward/back motion to it)? I can always make that a non-functional feature in the lego model but it'd be cool to have it work instead of just saying it does.

For file, reply with an email to send to.
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| May 10, 2013, 5:59 pm
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Quoting Zach Eli "Sierra" Sykes
Techniqe help! I am trying to add an elevating deck gun to my new sub. Does anyone know a good mechanism to make an elevating platform (preferably without too much forward/back motion to it)? I can always make that a non-functional feature in the lego model but it'd be cool to have it work instead of just saying it does.

For file, reply with an email to send to.

Assuming you are building this on LDD, check out the technic section, I'm fairly confident you should find something useful (maybe a piston of some sort?).
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| May 11, 2013, 12:25 am
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Quoting Zach Eli "Sierra" Sykes
Techniqe help! I am trying to add an elevating deck gun to my new sub. Does anyone know a good mechanism to make an elevating platform (preferably without too much forward/back motion to it)? I can always make that a non-functional feature in the lego model but it'd be cool to have it work instead of just saying it does.

For file, reply with an email to send to.
I have a mechanism thanis about 4 stud long and 3 or 4 plates high.

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| May 11, 2013, 12:27 am
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Quoting Zach Eli "Sierra" Sykes
Techniqe help! I am trying to add an elevating deck gun to my new sub. Does anyone know a good mechanism to make an elevating platform (preferably without too much forward/back motion to it)? I can always make that a non-functional feature in the lego model but it'd be cool to have it work instead of just saying it does.

For file, reply with an email to send to.

how large is the submarine?
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| May 11, 2013, 9:27 am
The Absolute has begun to build a miniature strategic mobile platform that will serve as a multipurpose utility vehicle from a small communications speeder to a troop carrier. And we now have a mass driver (coil gun) artillery battery under mass production (still wish i had a camera).
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| May 11, 2013, 8:34 pm
Quoting Christian Bish
how large is the submarine?

As a whole, thats irrelivent. The space the mechanism AND cannons have to fit in is 4x16 (thats with cannon barrels).
And Sylvan, I'd apreciate if you could send me a pic of the mechanism you have. It sounds promising.

In other news, I will pe finalizing my war plans, adding some pics of some things including my Hornet K-harrier, F-155 THunderhawk, and a new satellite I have.
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| May 12, 2013, 8:25 am
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Quoting Zach Eli "Sierra" Sykes
As a whole, thats irrelivent. The space the mechanism AND cannons have to fit in is 4x16 (thats with cannon barrels).
And Sylvan, I'd apreciate if you could send me a pic of the mechanism you have. It sounds promising.

In other news, I will pe finalizing my war plans, adding some pics of some things including my Hornet K-harrier, F-155 THunderhawk, and a new satellite I have.

Why do you want a deck gun anyway? Now that submarines can stay underwater for months at a time, there is no need for surface weaponry. Also, they can fire their missiles from below the surface as well. On a submarine where space is at a premium, why waste it with an outdated technology? ( bear in mind that deck guns haven't been used since the nautilus was built)
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| May 12, 2013, 8:52 am
Quoting jack kenyon
Why do you want a deck gun anyway? Now that submarines can stay underwater for months at a time, there is no need for surface weaponry. Also, they can fire their missiles from below the surface as well. On a submarine where space is at a premium, why waste it with an outdated technology? ( bear in mind that deck guns haven't been used since the nautilus was built)


I guess I'm just old fashion.
Not really, by using "outdated" methods that are considered useless and ineffective, I am distancing myself from the warfare that you would be expecting. YOu'd never expect a submarine to surface and face off with a destroyer cannon to cannon would you? CLearly not since you think thats oudated. YOu see my point? IF the enemy hasnt seen that military tactic or weapon in years, they will no longer have anyhting in the playbook to counter it. I blend a good dose of old fashion slugfest warfare with D&C's high tech "kill the enemy before you see him" type fighting.
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| May 12, 2013, 9:20 am
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The EFCF now has finished a Battleship; The Yamoto-Class Battleship. I am going for a mobile weapons platform but also up to date with technology like Missiles and CIWS.
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| May 12, 2013, 9:33 am
after some intense thinking and testing, I've created a mechanism that works as I want. It does however, sacrifice build stability. In real life lego, this'd never fly but for my purposes, it gets the job done and will work for showcasing the feature in D&C rather than just saying it can do this.
The sub is primarily a missile sub, meduim. It is armed with cannons instead of torpetoes as its main weapon. two 5" coilgun accelerated cannons with a muzzle velocity of around mach 4.5 and velocity of mach 1.8 when submerged. underwater it has great speed dropoff so it doesnt have the range of torps but it has more hitting power up close. (mainly defensive sub-to-sub) It can elevate and become a deck gun to take destroyers by surprise and shred them.
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| May 12, 2013, 9:49 am
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General conversation five is needed I think.
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| May 12, 2013, 11:49 am
Quoting jack kenyon
General conversation five is needed I think.

Im gonna second that notion. Squid, if you please?
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| May 12, 2013, 12:04 pm
At the time of writing this, I am about to hit send on the email to Matthew Sylvan containing my war plan. Will the other CMs please give me their emails so that I may send them such?
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| May 12, 2013, 2:07 pm
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Quoting Christian Bish
The EFCF now has finished a Battleship; The Yamoto-Class Battleship. I am going for a mobile weapons platform but also up to date with technology like Missiles and CIWS.

Such a creative name XD
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| May 12, 2013, 4:32 pm
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Quoting Matthew McCall
Such a creative name XD

Hay, I prefer to use names that are not too made up.
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| May 12, 2013, 4:58 pm
Quoting Christian Bish
Hay, I prefer to use names that are not too made up.

I seem to pull it off . . .
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| May 12, 2013, 5:02 pm
Quoting Tyro Cook
Hey now everyone! He didn't rip off the name! The WWII ship was named the Yamato, not the Yamoto. Ergo, he's still in the clear XD

PHEW! that was a close one. The japanese war gods almost killed us.
Tyro, question. YOu mentioned something about supplying the NCA for our war. Is this still valid? 'Cause I could use a big shipment of skyraiders for carrier ops.
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| May 12, 2013, 5:11 pm
Quoting Tyro Cook
Define "big shipment." Mind you Traxxus supplies more than just the NCA.

Biggest that Traxxus will allow us. I was thinking in the 'at least 30 to 40' ballpark.
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| May 12, 2013, 6:51 pm
Colin and Broken Bricks, if you two are active, I need to speak with you both. I assure you it has nothing to do with our current war. If you are willing to hear me out, accept the private group invite I am sending.
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| May 12, 2013, 7:58 pm
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Quoting Zach Eli "Sierra" Sykes
Colin and Broken Bricks, if you two are active, I need to speak with you both. I assure you it has nothing to do with our current war. If you are willing to hear me out, accept the private group invite I am sending.

The Conglomerate is highly suspicious of what this meeting could be about.
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| May 12, 2013, 8:36 pm
Quoting Zach Eli "Sierra" Sykes
Colin and Broken Bricks, if you two are active, I need to speak with you both. I assure you it has nothing to do with our current war. If you are willing to hear me out, accept the private group invite I am sending.


Costigar refuses the NCA's requests. No contact will be made.
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| May 12, 2013, 9:28 pm
Quoting Matthew McCall
The Conglomerate is highly suspicious of what this meeting could be about.

You can relax McCall. IF the enemy of my enemy is my friend, then wouldn't the friend of my friend also be my friend?

ANd to Costigar: If you'r holding a grudge, thats too bad. I'm sure you sould have been interested in what I had in store. Oh well, your loss.
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| May 12, 2013, 9:33 pm
The Absolute forces are annexing 231. We now have a mobile platform that serves as a small communications base and some new unmanned drones with superficial artificial intelligence. We also have an airship (in miniature form) that will commence annexation of other unconquered worlds.
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| May 12, 2013, 10:28 pm
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Quoting Zach Eli "Sierra" Sykes
You can relax McCall. IF the enemy of my enemy is my friend, then wouldn't the friend of my friend also be my friend?

ANd to Costigar: If you'r holding a grudge, thats too bad. I'm sure you sould have been interested in what I had in store. Oh well, your loss.

You are contacting my two neighbors about a undisclosed topic, that automatically sets off alarm bells.
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| May 12, 2013, 11:25 pm
Quoting Matthew McCall
You are contacting my two neighbors about a undisclosed topic, that automatically sets off alarm bells.

It can set off all the alarm bells you want. Far as I know, it's better if you aren't involved in ANY way. regardless of what we plan, you'll be out of it. You arent a target.
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| May 13, 2013, 6:32 am
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