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| June 12, 2013, 9:16 pm
The Absolute Empire has announced it's new tank. The turret is based on the German Leopard 2 and the body is that of an Abrams.
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| June 12, 2013, 11:20 pm
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@Zach

As defensive capabilities get better, so do offensive capabilities. Aircrafts will never be able absorb gunfire, that's why they are so fast. Ok, unless we are talking about airships.

I guess gen 7 AI is better than gen 6+ so I will use them. Btw, I will sell you the Turul and Waverider but I have a limited quantity of them. What are the others that you want?
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| June 13, 2013, 1:19 am
Quoting Matthew Sylvan
@Zach

As defensive capabilities get better, so do offensive capabilities. Aircrafts will never be able absorb gunfire, that's why they are so fast. Ok, unless we are talking about airships.

I guess gen 7 AI is better than gen 6+ so I will use them. Btw, I will sell you the Turul and Waverider but I have a limited quantity of them. What are the others that you want?

Only a few of them. I really am more into the Turul. I have a full list of what I have up for sale back in ITF2 so you can see what merchandise I have to repay you with.

And about absorbing bullets, you make a good point. That armoring was made for small arms fire and flak. It really is only good up to 20mm and even there it stops being very effective. To really be stronger, it'd need to be thicker and light as it is, the Cobra would lose carrier landing speed capabilities with thicker skinning and that is unacceptable.
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| June 13, 2013, 9:26 am
The Cobra is officially open for preview. Commenting is turned off for preview and will be enabled at the formal release, friday at noon.
http://www.mocpages.com/moc.php/362353
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| June 13, 2013, 12:10 pm
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Gaufran has observed the Cobra, and will not be changing anything on our design. Only time will tell which approach is better. No further details on our design will be released until its completion. Project Black Eagle has been designated maximum priority, need to know only. Going quiet....
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| June 13, 2013, 12:43 pm
The Absolute has announced development of it's newest airship for the new Absolute Air Guard. Two types are being built.

Also we have released images of the newest main battle tanks made. The Empire currently plans on having possibly 10 main battle tanks for various roles and purposes. Also we have commenced a drone program as a cheaper alternative of manned vehicles.

The images of its new armored fighting vehicles can be seen here

- http://www.flickr.com/photos/97021840@N05/9033374119/

In other news today the bodies of the traitors have been displayed out for all to see. Each prisoner received 15 gunshot wounds in various reaches of their body. The last prisoner had his head hollowed out and lived a few minutes before dying.

In other news today the mass production of infantry has commenced. We will have the first wave of armed forces by next week.

The Navy has also began preparations for production of it's new ship classes. Many other types of ships will be constructed in times to come. That is all for today.

-Hail Absolute!
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| June 13, 2013, 12:51 pm
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Quoting TheWolfBrigade 01

In other news today the bodies of the traitors have been displayed out for all to see. Each prisoner received 15 gunshot wounds in various reaches of their body. The last prisoner had his head hollowed out and lived a few minutes before dying.

What did they do? How were they traitors? If that is how you treat them, no wonder!
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| June 13, 2013, 4:18 pm
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The Conglomerate has just released a press preview of its newest fighter, it features a radically different design and is widely exspected to be one of the world's top fighters: http://www.mocpages.com/moc.php/362372
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| June 13, 2013, 4:36 pm
Quoting jack kenyon
What did they do? How were they traitors? If that is how you treat them, no wonder!


Thoughtcrime, Doublethink, Conspiracy etc.

Now...they are "unpersons".
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| June 13, 2013, 5:29 pm
Quoting Matthew McCall
The Conglomerate has just released a press preview of its newest fighter, it features a radically different design and is widely exspected to be one of the world's top fighters: http://www.mocpages.com/moc.php/362372


Interesting. It looks like it could fly into the endless reaches of space.
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| June 13, 2013, 5:32 pm
The Absolute Empire has announced a series of new ships including a new stealth ship and a new supercarrier dubbed Victoria II class.
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| June 13, 2013, 7:42 pm
The Cobra Fighter has now exited preview and is available for all nations to share their opinions on.
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| June 14, 2013, 9:41 am
The NCA has completed yet another variant of the Phalanx drones. This one is a railgun tank destroyer/artillery vehicle.
We also request some more opinions on these vehicles including a second McCall critique.
http://mocpages.com/moc.php/359550
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| June 14, 2013, 11:49 am
The Absolute has announced a new Victoria-class supercarrier dubbed Victoria II-class.

Details will follow.
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| June 14, 2013, 12:11 pm
Yet another variant has been added to the Phalanx family, this time it is a quad cannon version of the Stinger.
http://www.mocpages.com/moc.php/359550
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| June 14, 2013, 2:04 pm
The Absolute has announced a new super battleship in development dubbed Abraham Van Helsing-class battleship and it will have a similar counter part dubbed Impaler-class.
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| June 14, 2013, 4:23 pm
Quoting TheWolfBrigade 01
. . . it will have a similar counter part dubbed Impaler-class.

DRAC LIVES!!
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| June 14, 2013, 5:45 pm
Quoting Zach Eli "Sierra" Sykes
DRAC LIVES!!


(1937) "BLUHD...BLUHD..."

(Today) "Nothing I shoot ever gets back up again."
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| June 14, 2013, 6:33 pm
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The Conglomerate has announced that the United Inner states has 24 hours to unconditionally surrender and give up their sovereignty or they will face invasion and subsecent occupation. Any allies that the UIS has are advised to stay out of this unless they too wish to share in the same fate.
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| June 14, 2013, 7:10 pm
Quoting Matthew McCall
The Conglomerate has announced that the United Inner states has 24 hours to unconditionally surrender and give up their sovereignty or they will face invasion and subsecent occupation. Any allies that the UIS has are advised to stay out of this unless they too wish to share in the same fate.

He and Colin are both inactive. You'd be better just annexing them than declaring war.
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| June 14, 2013, 7:16 pm
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Quoting Zach Eli "Sierra" Sykes
He and Colin are both inactive. You'd be better just annexing them than declaring war.

Well, yes, but it's more fun to announce it like this. ;)
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| June 14, 2013, 7:18 pm
Quoting Matthew McCall
The Conglomerate has announced that the United Inner states has 24 hours to unconditionally surrender and give up their sovereignty or they will face invasion and subsecent occupation. Any allies that the UIS has are advised to stay out of this unless they too wish to share in the same fate.


Wow. I wonder what else Bricks missing out of?

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| June 14, 2013, 7:25 pm
Quoting Matthew McCall
Well, yes, but it's more fun to announce it like this. ;)

In that case, KENYON!! Werent you the one who told me not to attack Broken because you brits have to stick together?
(hint hint: I am for hire and I would never pass up a dreadnought as a payment for services)
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| June 14, 2013, 7:25 pm
The South Eastern Alliance has been inactive for months. Better just take what they have now.
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| June 14, 2013, 7:28 pm
Who the h*ll else is inactive here?
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| June 14, 2013, 7:31 pm
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Quoting TheWolfBrigade 01
Who the h*ll else is inactive here?

I am not inactive
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| June 14, 2013, 7:35 pm
Quoting Christian Bish
I am not inactive


Yay.
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| June 14, 2013, 7:42 pm
The NCA has made a slight change to the Python to allow it to be more on par with other Gen 6 and Gen 7 aircraft, UAV or otherwise.
http://mocpages.com/moc.php/361168
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| June 14, 2013, 7:46 pm
*Yawn*

The Absolute has announced plans to test the newer Victoria II-class supercarrier by this weekend before full production.

EDIT: here's a pic of the Victoria II.

-http://www.flickr.com/photos/97021840@N05/9041737997/
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| June 14, 2013, 8:52 pm
Quoting TheWolfBrigade 01
*Yawn*

The Absolute has announced plans to test the newer Victoria II-class supercarrier by this weekend before full production.

EDIT: here's a pic of the Victoria II.

-http://www.flickr.com/photos/97021840@N05/9041737997/

Using your cannons for scale, you need to do one of 2 things. Either lower the caliber to at least 8" (~203mm) or remove teh CIWS turrets. A carrier of teh size of that ship is too impractical.
You ahve a lot of unused deck space. I recommend dropping your cannons to a more realistic caliber and expanding the runway,thus lowering the scale of it. You're off to a good start and your skills just need a little refining. With a little work, I'm certain I can tailor it to something more realistically scaled and better loaded.
Email for file should you be interested: Zmackme14@yahoo.com

Drop me a file if you want to see what I can do with it, otherwise, good work so far.
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| June 14, 2013, 9:38 pm
Quoting Zach Eli "Sierra" Sykes
Using your cannons for scale, you need to do one of 2 things. Either lower the caliber to at least 8" (~203mm) or remove teh CIWS turrets. A carrier of teh size of that ship is too impractical.
You ahve a lot of unused deck space. I recommend dropping your cannons to a more realistic caliber and expanding the runway,thus lowering the scale of it. You're off to a good start and your skills just need a little refining. With a little work, I'm certain I can tailor it to something more realistically scaled and better loaded.
Email for file should you be interested: Zmackme14@yahoo.com

Drop me a file if you want to see what I can do with it, otherwise, good work so far.


I forgot to mention but it's in prototyping phase. The final product will be the production version. But you can help out yourself since you're interested.

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| June 14, 2013, 9:59 pm
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Quoting Zach Eli "Sierra" Sykes
In that case, KENYON!! Werent you the one who told me not to attack Broken because you brits have to stick together?
(hint hint: I am for hire and I would never pass up a dreadnought as a payment for services)

I was saying that to McCall, but are you implying that if I pay you, you will interfere with the Congolmorate annexation?
Sorry, no dreadnoughts for sale, ever.

Gaufran will not interfere, but has opened it's eastern borders for the UIS immigrants fleeing the country.
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| June 15, 2013, 6:15 am
Quoting jack kenyon
I was saying that to McCall, but are you implying that if I pay you, you will interfere with the Congolmorate annexation?
Sorry, no dreadnoughts for sale, ever.

Gaufran will not interfere, but has opened it's eastern borders for the UIS immigrants fleeing the country.

I was implying that if you were to jump to UIS aid, I would be available for hire to the highest bidder and you look like you'd be the highest bidder.
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| June 15, 2013, 9:08 am
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Quoting Zach Eli "Sierra" Sykes
I was implying that if you were to jump to UIS aid, I would be available for hire to the highest bidder and you look like you'd be the highest bidder.

I won't be coming t his aid, he has been so inactive lately, and I won't be putti g my neck on the line for him, as much as I like him.

I have one question though, McCall, will you let me or someone else control Broken's units so that he goes down fighting?
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| June 15, 2013, 9:37 am
Quoting jack kenyon
I won't be coming t his aid, he has been so inactive lately, and I won't be putti g my neck on the line for him, as much as I like him.

I have one question though, McCall, will you let me or someone else control Broken's units so that he goes down fighting?

Well, If this does turn into fighting, which I have some inside sources saying that there are other nations out there that want Broken left alone, I am available for hire to whichever side has the better offer for me. This comes with my Victory guarantee. If you don't win, you don't pay. I'm not big on helping any self-proclaimed power get any larger (I think its part of the reason we have no new players) but if there is demand and people willing to hire, I will certainly be there to collect some merchandise and just to throw my armies in to make it interesting.
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| June 15, 2013, 9:46 am
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Quoting jack kenyon
I won't be coming t his aid, he has been so inactive lately, and I won't be putti g my neck on the line for him, as much as I like him.

I have one question though, McCall, will you let me or someone else control Broken's units so that he goes down fighting?

If it's allowed I can control the UIS forces, so we can have a nice fight.
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| June 15, 2013, 10:47 am
Hmm. This should be interesting. Zach, I propose that we go joint force into the land if the UIS and we can all pillage his little land.

EDIT: Sounds like a "puppet" fight to me. OH WELL PRACTICE TARGETING IS AWESOME! I can finally use my anti-matter missiles and use my power armor forces to test their skills.
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| June 15, 2013, 11:07 am
Quoting TheWolfBrigade 01
Hmm. This should be interesting. Zach, I propose that we go joint force into the land if the UIS and we can all pillage his little land.

EDIT: Sounds like a "puppet" fight to me. OH WELL PRACTICE TARGETING IS AWESOME! I can finally use my anti-matter missiles and use my power armor forces to test their skills.


EDIT: And I can use this as propaganda tactics for my civilians to further join my great cause. My city is piratically a giant tank housing proles and filth that can learn the true meaning of strength.

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| June 15, 2013, 11:16 am
Quoting Matthew Sylvan
If it's allowed I can control the UIS forces, so we can have a nice fight.

You're the Congloms ally. How would that go over?
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| June 15, 2013, 12:02 pm
Quoting Zach Eli "Sierra" Sykes
You're the Congloms ally. How would that go over?


Let's just take their stuff and blow them. I'll split with the Cong and sell them some scraps they can use.
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| June 15, 2013, 12:19 pm
Quoting TheWolfBrigade 01

Let's just take their stuff and blow them. I'll split with the Cong and sell them some scraps they can use.

Come of it. You are nowhere near strong enough to take on the conglomerate. Heck, I could barely do it if I had homefield advantage.
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| June 15, 2013, 12:21 pm
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Quoting TheWolfBrigade 01

Let's just take their stuff and blow them. I'll split with the Cong and sell them some scraps they can use.

* tries not to laugh * XD
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| June 15, 2013, 12:25 pm
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Quoting TheWolfBrigade 01

EDIT: And I can use this as propaganda tactics for my civilians to further join my great cause. My city is piratically a giant tank housing proles and filth that can learn the true meaning of strength.

First off:
a) you haven't built this, so it doesn't exist.
b) if yet another silly overpowered creation may very well end up being ruled not allowed until changed
c) you can't ship something like that across the world in the first place
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| June 15, 2013, 12:29 pm
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Anyway, I would be be fine with either Jack or Matthew cm'ing for the other side.
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| June 15, 2013, 12:31 pm
Quoting Matthew McCall
First off:
a) you haven't built this, so it doesn't exist.
b) if yet another silly overpowered creation may very well end up being ruled not allowed until changed
c) you can't ship something like that across the world in the first place


The City has turrets which makes LOOK like a tank I did not say it WAS a literal tank.
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| June 15, 2013, 12:31 pm
Quoting Zach Eli "Sierra" Sykes
Come of it. You are nowhere near strong enough to take on the conglomerate. Heck, I could barely do it if I had homefield advantage.


I meant the UIS! Then sell their stuff to the Cong.
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| June 15, 2013, 12:33 pm
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Quoting TheWolfBrigade 01

The City has turrets which makes LOOK like a tank I did not say it WAS a literal tank.

You said it was "practically" a tank (might want to work on that spelling by the way ;) ). Having turrets in no way makes it practically a tank, which is what you had claimed.

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| June 15, 2013, 12:36 pm
Quoting Matthew McCall
You said it was "practically" a tank (might want to work on that spelling by the way ;) ). Having turrets in no way makes it practically a tank, which is what you had claimed.

Lets settle this. The better term of that situation would have been fortress. Now, this pointless argument is over.
This is INF.
Announce news. No arguing, religion, or politics.
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| June 15, 2013, 12:40 pm
Quoting Matthew McCall
You said it was "practically" a tank (might want to work on that spelling by the way ;) ). Having turrets in no way makes it practically a tank, which is what you had claimed.


Practically but not literally. It does not have a billion tracks under it but it does have defenses such as CWIS and large big caliber guns on the towers. It's sorta like a tank but it's more like a defense station but not a literal tank that MOVES. Argh I need to come up with a moc just to show you guys.
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| June 15, 2013, 12:41 pm
Wolf, what did I just say?
No ARGUING, religion, or politics.
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| June 15, 2013, 12:42 pm
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Quoting Zach Eli "Sierra" Sykes
Lets settle this. The better term of that situation would have been fortress. Now, this pointless argument is over.
This is INF.
Announce news. No arguing, religion, or politics.

Agreed.
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| June 15, 2013, 12:43 pm
Quoting Zach Eli "Sierra" Sykes
Lets settle this. The better term of that situation would have been fortress. Now, this pointless argument is over.
This is INF.
Announce news. No arguing, religion, or politics.


Yeah. I could have said that. It's a fortified city with big guns and an enslaved population ok let's get down to business here.

-News Today-

The Absolute has announced the testing of the new Victoria II class supercarrier. By tomorrow we will have the results of said testing.

In other news today the Army's new special field unit called Absolute Fist of the 49th Field Brigade has been deployed around the wastes prepping for future combat. The 49th Brigade are the toughest well trained units ever in the Absolute Military.

That is all for today.

-Hail Absolute!

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| June 15, 2013, 12:48 pm
Quoting Zach Eli "Sierra" Sykes
Wolf, what did I just say?
No ARGUING, religion, or politics.


(That was posted before yours!)
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| June 15, 2013, 12:51 pm
The NCA is announcing the initiation of a massive construction project. We are heavily reinforcing our borders among rising tensions. Our borders will be heavily armed against naval vessels, landing craft, amphibious vehicles, and aircraft at all altitudes.
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| June 15, 2013, 1:02 pm
Quoting Zach Eli "Sierra" Sykes
The NCA is announcing the initiation of a massive construction project. We are heavily reinforcing our borders among rising tensions. Our borders will be heavily armed against naval vessels, landing craft, amphibious vehicles, and aircraft at all altitudes.


As well as mine. However I can probably spare you some workers for the cause.

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| June 15, 2013, 1:05 pm
Quoting TheWolfBrigade 01

As well as mine. However I can probably spare you some workers for the cause.

Look at the map and tell me who has more workers?
My borders are being fortified with NCA standard Hornet's Nest SAM systems, 150mm anti-tank cannons, 200mm Longbow railguns, such as used on the Hunter Phalanx and an unannounced piece of EFCF tech, 40mm dual quad batteries, and 88mm flak cannons.
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| June 15, 2013, 1:09 pm
Uhh...Me? lol. I'll spare you 2000 workers.
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| June 15, 2013, 1:35 pm
Quoting TheWolfBrigade 01
Uhh...Me? lol. I'll spare you 2000 workers.

Point I was trying to make as I got this under control. YOu can see my defensive setup when it's done.
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| June 15, 2013, 1:40 pm
Our boarders are being fortified with anti-matter missiles and large walls. We also have coastal 200mm guns and CWIS with long range artillery forts. We also have 100mm and 88m flak guns at our disposal with quad barrel MG-42's chambered in 9.3x62mm armor piercing ammo mounted on AA implants (actually for use against infantry)
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| June 15, 2013, 1:46 pm
Quoting Zach Eli "Sierra" Sykes
Point I was trying to make as I got this under control. YOu can see my defensive setup when it's done.


Wow. Mine will take some time to complete but I'll show you mine as well.
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| June 15, 2013, 1:53 pm
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Quoting TheWolfBrigade 01
Our boarders are being fortified with anti-matter missiles and large walls. We also have coastal 200mm guns and CWIS with long range artillery forts. We also have 100mm and 88m flak guns at our disposal with quad barrel MG-42's chambered in 9.3x62mm armor piercing ammo mounted on AA implants (actually for use against infantry)

* CIWS
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| June 15, 2013, 2:02 pm
The Union would like to ask the NCA why it's currently making this monumental effort to fortify it's borders.
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| June 15, 2013, 2:08 pm
Quoting Brickviller -
The Union would like to ask the NCA why it's currently making this monumental effort to fortify it's borders.

Becuase I can!

If you must know, as a PMC, I may make more enemies than I would as a nation, therefore, I am fortifying my continent heavily. You have a problem with that?
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| June 15, 2013, 2:10 pm
Quoting Brickviller -
The Union would like to ask the NCA why it's currently making this monumental effort to fortify it's borders.

Question. Are you scared?
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| June 15, 2013, 2:11 pm
Quoting Zach Eli "Sierra" Sykes
You have a problem with that?


We have, there seem to be no imminent threat to your nation. Thus we can assume you will be the first to attack. Also this defence wall garuantees that you can do wathever you want in the future, without other nations having a fair chance of victory if standing alone against you. So yes The Union has a problem with your fortifications.

If you don't stop constructing soon the Union will be forced to build it's own weapons for defence and speciality weapons against your walls.
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| June 15, 2013, 2:16 pm
Quoting Brickviller -

We have, there seem to be no imminent threat to your nation. Thus we can assume you will be the first to attack. Also this defence wall garuantees that you can do wathever you want in the future, without other nations having a fair chance of victory if standing alone against you. So yes The Union has a problem with your fortifications.

If you don't stop constructing soon the Union will be forced to build it's own weapons for defence and speciality weapons against your walls.

You rank below zero on the NCA's most recent threat assessments. We will continue building our defensive fortifications as we see fit.
If you have a problem with it, get over it!
-Sierra out.
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| June 15, 2013, 2:24 pm
Quoting Zach Eli "Sierra" Sykes
You rank below zero on the NCA's most recent threat assessments. We will continue building our defensive fortifications as we see fit.
If you have a problem with it, get over it!
-Sierra out.


If this attitude continues the Union will take action against your nation
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| June 15, 2013, 2:46 pm
Quoting Brickviller -

If this attitude continues the Union will take action against your nation

You already admitted these defenses would make it next to immpossible to attack me with any chance of winning. What make you think that I didnt start building them nearest you?
You are becoming increasingly annoying and frankly, my allies agree with me. Do you really want to do this again? Because I promise, it will end differently.
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| June 15, 2013, 2:51 pm
Part one goes up tomorrow. Tell me then if you feel threatened.
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| June 15, 2013, 2:58 pm
Quoting Zach Eli "Sierra" Sykes

You are becoming increasingly annoying and frankly, my allies agree with me. Do you really want to do this again? Because I promise, it will end differently.


That's funny, I've heard wispers of the same about your nation. Build whatever you want, but the Union will not take this lightly

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| June 15, 2013, 3:02 pm
Quoting Brickviller -

That's funny, I've heard wispers of the same about your nation. Build whatever you want, but the Union will not take this lightly

unfortunately for you, I think I win in the department of friends.
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| June 15, 2013, 3:03 pm
the NCA has discovered waht it believes to be treatury on the part of the BU. We have reason to believe the BU has been executing secret dealings with Gaufran under the table in the group "BU Chamber of Warfare". The BU has 24 hours to prove their innocence or the ODF will mobilize against the BU.
Until we have confirmation the BU has not violated the terms or armistice, the NCA will continue its defensive fortification process.

We do not regret that one nation's overconcerns, lack of interest in inquiring about the situation before making rediculous demands, and overconfidence may soon lead to their demise.
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| June 15, 2013, 3:08 pm
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Quoting Zach Eli "Sierra" Sykes
the NCA has discovered waht it believes to be treatury on the part of the BU. We have reason to believe the BU has been executing secret dealings with Gaufran under the table in the group "BU Chamber of Warfare". The BU has 24 hours to prove their innocence or the ODF will mobilize against the BU.
Until we have confirmation the BU has not violated the terms or armistice, the NCA will continue its defensive fortification process.

We do not regret that one nation's overconcerns, lack of interest in inquiring about the situation before making rediculous demands, and overconfidence may soon lead to their demise.

Uh... because of burden of proof, this means you get to prove he's guilty, he doesn't have to prove himeself innocent. You don't get to make an unsupported claim and have others prove it wrong, you have to back it up.
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| June 15, 2013, 3:19 pm
Quoting Zach Eli "Sierra" Sykes
We have reason to believe the BU has been executing secret dealings with Gaufran under the table in the group "BU Chamber of Warfare".


The Union has no dealing with Gaufran at the moment. There is also no proof, since new units should be added to my inventory after recieving them. If not done they don't excist. So, that leaves two options.

-1. I'm breaking the rules, which I'm not
-2. The Union has no 'dealings' with Gaufran


A mature person should have proof first, before throwing mud at their old enemy
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| June 15, 2013, 3:20 pm
Quoting Brickviller -
Quoting Zach Eli "Sierra" Sykes
We have reason to believe the BU has been executing secret dealings with Gaufran under the table in the group "BU Chamber of Warfare".


The Union has no dealing with Gaufran at the moment. There is also no proof, since new units should be added to my inventory after recieving them. If not done they don't excist. So, that leaves two options.

-1. I'm breaking the rules, which I'm not
-2. The Union has no 'dealings' with Gaufran


A mature person should have proof first, before throwing mud at their old enemy

"Dealings" does not mean unit trade. I have reason to suspect that you went to Gaufran for help. I operate by this motto: Take no prisoners . . . and take no $---.
Here is a way you can prove it: Make BU Chamber of Warfare public.
And what military person has ever said don't throw mud at your enemy when you know you can win?
Look around you. Look who your neighbor is and look whose side he is on. You still as overblown and cocky as you were an hour ago?
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| June 15, 2013, 3:24 pm
Quoting Zach Eli "Sierra" Sykes


The Union will not make it's military strategies of the last war, nor the political discussions public. However a third party, like the moderators of the last war can confirm wether or not the're dealings of the sort you describe here. Nothing more. That is excactly what you wanted, so I don't see any reason why you would oppose it.
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| June 15, 2013, 3:27 pm
Quoting Brickviller -

The Union will not make it's military strategies of the last war, nor the political discussions public. However a third party, like the moderators of the last war can confirm wether or not the're dealings of the sort you describe here. Nothing more.

I trust Sylvan to do it. I want to know if there is any communication between Gaufran and the BU in the past week regarding anything D&C related.

Also, you started a group: IBAP.
My intel has yet to yield any violations stemming from this group but needless to say, it will be under surveillance.
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| June 15, 2013, 3:30 pm
Quoting Zach Eli "Sierra" Sykes
I want to know if there is any communication between Gaufran and the BU in the past week regarding anything D&C related.



No that was not the deal. For now the Union will sever ties with the NCA. Not to provoke you, but to prevent war. Since it seems that comes closer every time the Union sends a gesture.



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| June 15, 2013, 3:35 pm
Quoting Matthew McCall
Uh... because of burden of proof, this means you get to prove he's guilty, he doesn't have to prove himeself innocent. You don't get to make an unsupported claim and have others prove it wrong, you have to back it up.

On Mocpages, its very easy to hide information. Therefore, I am making a calculated move. End of story. I can gather all the evidence I can but to some extent, I have to make him do some of the work.
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| June 15, 2013, 3:37 pm
Quoting Brickviller -
Quoting Zach Eli "Sierra" Sykes
I want to know if there is any communication between Gaufran and the BU in the past week regarding anything D&C related.



No that was not the deal.



That is the timeframe I suspect the dealings occured during. This was after you informed Kenyon of the armistice so what is the problem? This is when I believe the treachery occurred and that much I can prove.
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| June 15, 2013, 3:38 pm
Quoting Brickviller -
Quoting Zach Eli "Sierra" Sykes
I want to know if there is any communication between Gaufran and the BU in the past week regarding anything D&C related.



No that was not the deal. For now the Union will sever ties with the NCA. Not to provoke you, but to prevent war. Since it seems that comes closer every time the Union sends a gesture.



The Union sent no such gestures that we recognize. The 24 hour timeclock remains. The NCA is initiating blackout protocol.
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| June 15, 2013, 3:43 pm
Quoting Zach Eli "Sierra" Sykes
That is the timeframe I suspect the dealings occured during. This was after you informed Kenyon of the armistice so what is the problem? This is when I believe the treachery occurred and that much I can prove.


The problem is you. It seems you just want war, nothing else. You just want to know what's in the Unions secret groups, and wether or not it's a danger to you. The result is that you grow more and more suspicious and taking drastic steps that can become fatal to your nation.

This will be my last message to you. I've given you a gift in the past, you know what it was. Because of that I will not declare war against you in the foreseable future , but your nation is now an empty void to the Union. And we will not speak again.
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| June 15, 2013, 3:45 pm
Hm. The Absolute Empire is willing to help out with the NCA's cause. My boarders should be completed by the end of the week maybe by tomorrow. Also the production of my ships is nearing completion so by Monday we shall have our first half of the fleet. I will at least have 10 battleships this month at my disposal and have a number of infantry and vehicles.

Also I have commenced Project Hercules. A battle suit for urban and moderate field operations. Will be equipped with a large anti tank cannon and another with a railgun.
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| June 15, 2013, 4:11 pm
Quoting Brickviller -

The problem is you. It seems you just want war, nothing else. You just want to know what's in the Unions secret groups, and wether or not it's a danger to you. The result is that you grow more and more suspicious and taking drastic steps that can become fatal to your nation.

This will be my last message to you. I've given you a gift in the past, you know what it was. Because of that I will not declare war against you in the foreseable future , but your nation is now an empty void to the Union. And we will not speak again.

I went toe to toe with you and, even before I got EFCF help, was able to stand my ground. I have proven myself militarily and unless you prove that you were holding back, then I successfully held you off. My military might has only grown since then and I am more than ready to take you. Anything I got from you I took and I can do it again.
The 24 hour timeclock has not stopped . . . and this 'empty void' will bite.
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| June 15, 2013, 5:04 pm
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Quoting TheWolfBrigade 01
Hm. The Absolute Empire is willing to help out with the NCA's cause. My boarders should be completed by the end of the week maybe by tomorrow. Also the production of my ships is nearing completion so by Monday we shall have our first half of the fleet. I will at least have 10 battleships this month at my disposal and have a number of infantry and vehicles.

Also I have commenced Project Hercules. A battle suit for urban and moderate field operations. Will be equipped with a large anti tank cannon and another with a railgun.

You will need to actually build examples of your border defenses in Lego for them to be counted. Also, you currently haven't started production on anything so you don't really have anything in your military. And since you can only build standard battleships at a rate of 1 per 2 weeks and "super battleships" at a rate of 1 per month, so it's literally impossible to have 10 battleships by the end of the month.
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| June 15, 2013, 5:09 pm
An extremely early prototype of some of our beach defenses. Remember to read the description on flickr before commenting here.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/sierrasykes/9053634286/
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| June 15, 2013, 5:14 pm
Quoting Matthew McCall
You will need to actually build examples of your border defenses in Lego for them to be counted. Also, you currently haven't started production on anything so you don't really have anything in your military. And since you can only build standard battleships at a rate of 1 per 2 weeks and "super battleships" at a rate of 1 per month, so it's literally impossible to have 10 battleships by the end of the month.


I forgot about that one...

EDIT; I AM building one in Lego. Which is why I stated it could be done by tomorrow.

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| June 15, 2013, 5:33 pm
I forgot about that one...

EDIT; I AM building one in Lego. Which is why I stated it could be done by tomorrow.

EDIT: In place of the carriers I am now developing Amphibious Assault Ships for productive purposes. Also we will have a force to at least slow down enemy vessels if I can do so.


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| June 15, 2013, 5:52 pm
-ANNOUNCEMENT-

The Absolute is in need of a fighting naval force, however due to time constraints and slow production I ask that if we can hire the NCA to cover our buts for the time being. Although we will call only for emergency processes however we will also create smaller and economic vessels for the sea. I am already initiating production for small armored Amphibious Assault Vehicles equipped with light weapon systems as amphibious tanks with transportable abilities. The AAVs will serve as "fighter boats" for the navy. Also we are initiating construction of LCS and destroyers.
-END OF ANNOUNCEMENT-

And now the news

Today we are building boarder defenses and walls for upcoming possible conflicts with the Brickville Union due to threats towards to our neighboring ally the NCA and due to fears that the Empire may lose a possible asset to our cause. We have initiated construction of the Leopard 2.1 main battle tank and power armored soldiers to upbuild our defenses. We shall have infantry forces by the end of the weekend. This has been a special report

-Hail Absolute!
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| June 15, 2013, 6:41 pm
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Quoting TheWolfBrigade 01
Leopard 2.1 main battle tank

This name is both highly uncreative and silly, why not just call it a Leopard tank?
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| June 15, 2013, 6:56 pm
Quoting Matthew McCall
This name is both highly uncreative and silly, why not just call it a Leopard tank?


It's BASED on the German Leopard 2 but with slightly fictionalized upgrades (I.e: long range sensors, better aiming systems, made out of reinforced depleted uranium that deals a small increase 10% of impact resistance)

EDIT: and it uses an Artificial Intelligence with little human use although it still requires a pilot and gunner. The A.I only guides the crew to better use systems more accurately. A new tank is also in the works that uses a similar system.

EDIT we may as well call it a Leopard C1 (Copy No. 1) since it is a copy of the Leopard 2.

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| June 15, 2013, 7:05 pm
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ANNOUNCEMENT:

Due to the BUs threats to NCA, the EFCF will issue a country wide alert to all citizens to be prepared for immediate evacuation to safety bunkers to last a be safe from the war if the BU attacks EFCF territories. The EFCF will begin preperations to fortify our boarder.

The boarder defense will consist of walls, bunkers, Artillery units, patrol units, AA units, and armor units. More details will be released at a later time.

END ANNOUNCEMENT:
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| June 15, 2013, 7:11 pm
Quoting Christian Bish
ANNOUNCEMENT:

Due to the BUs threats to NCA, the EFCF will issue a country wide alert to all citizens to be prepared for immediate evacuation to safety bunkers to last a be safe from the war if the BU attacks EFCF territories.

The boarder defense will consist of walls, bunkers, Artillery units, patrol units, AA units, and armor units. More details will be released at a later time.

END ANNOUNCEMENT:


(Add vaults and issue your citizens with Pip-Boy 3000s)

And on a serious note I plan on having my Phoenix UAV to be produced by this week. Also we may have to build an Iron Dome for this conflict. I will add CIWS and patrol guards around some of the boarders.

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| June 15, 2013, 7:18 pm
Quoting TheWolfBrigade 01
-ANNOUNCEMENT-

The Absolute is in need of a fighting naval force, however due to time constraints and slow production I ask that if we can hire the NCA to cover our buts for the time being. Although we will call only for emergency processes however we will also create smaller and economic vessels for the sea. I am already initiating production for small armored Amphibious Assault Vehicles equipped with light weapon systems as amphibious tanks with transportable abilities. The AAVs will serve as "fighter boats" for the navy. Also we are initiating construction of LCS and destroyers.
-END OF ANNOUNCEMENT-

And now the news

Today we are building boarder defenses and walls for upcoming possible conflicts with the Brickville Union due to threats towards to our neighboring ally the NCA and due to fears that the Empire may lose a possible asset to our cause. We have initiated construction of the Leopard 2.1 main battle tank and power armored soldiers to upbuild our defenses. We shall have infantry forces by the end of the weekend. This has been a special report

-Hail Absolute!

The NCA navy is actively pre-ocupied as we are preparing to disbatch our first Defiance carrier task force. This will consist of:
1 Defiance supercarrier
2 Vigilance Battlecarriers
5 Legion siege ships
20 Centaur LCSs
20 Hailstorm LCSs
20 Pegasus LCSs
20 Rainmaker LCSs
10 Vanguard Destroyers
5 Reaper missile subs
our first stealth missile destroyer, capable of delivering battleship power to land. It may or may not feature submersion capabilities and will be up for show perhaps by tomorrow.
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| June 15, 2013, 8:03 pm
The NCA's new Retribution class arsenal ship, designed to rival missile destroyers, packs a battleship worth of VLS firepower into a destroyer size stealth package.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/sierrasykes/9052529249/
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| June 15, 2013, 8:47 pm
Quoting Zach Eli "Sierra" Sykes
The NCA navy is actively pre-ocupied as we are preparing to disbatch our first Defiance carrier task force. This will consist of:
1 Defiance supercarrier
2 Vigilance Battlecarriers
5 Legion siege ships
20 Centaur LCSs
20 Hailstorm LCSs
20 Pegasus LCSs
20 Rainmaker LCSs
10 Vanguard Destroyers
5 Reaper missile subs
our first stealth missile destroyer, capable of delivering battleship power to land. It may or may not feature submersion capabilities and will be up for show perhaps by tomorrow.


Alright then. Am I able to hire one of your ships until this is over with at least? If not then I'll understand.
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| June 15, 2013, 8:52 pm
Quoting TheWolfBrigade 01

Alright then. Am I able to hire one of your ships until this is over with at least? If not then I'll understand.

I may be about to need my entire navy. May I ask what you are so concerned about that you want my navy for your defense?
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| June 15, 2013, 8:56 pm
In defense of my shipyard from possible BU attack if he even manages to nail you down if he get's the chance. (Which I doubt anyways but you can never be to sure) But I'm pretty sure you will need all the resources you have so I call off the proposal. I'll work with what I have. I'll use my UAVs and defense forces.

EDIT: Her's a sneak peak of my boarder defense.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/97021840@N05/9054864316/


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| June 15, 2013, 9:05 pm
Quoting TheWolfBrigade 01
In defense of my shipyard from possible BU attack if he even manages to nail you down if he get's the chance. (Which I doubt anyways but you can never be to sure) But I'm pretty sure you will need all the resources you have so I call off the proposal. I'll work with what I have. I'll use my UAVs and defense forces.

EDIT: Her's a sneak peak of my boarder defense.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/97021840@N05/9054864316/


Now why would you be under threat from the BU? I will handle them. They have their ships but not enough to pose a threat to my navy. I will keep them under control and they will not be able to come at you as I will have tight air and naval lockdown on the BU.
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| June 15, 2013, 9:20 pm
Quoting Zach Eli "Sierra" Sykes
Now why would you be under threat from the BU? I will handle them. They have their ships but not enough to pose a threat to my navy. I will keep them under control and they will not be able to come at you as I will have tight air and naval lockdown on the BU.


That's the spirit. I have no idea why I would doubt the NCA. Anyways as a close business ally I wish you luck. I knew the "peace treaty" of the BU would shatter like this. Anyways I would leave no mercy and bomb them deliberately if I was in your shoes.
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| June 15, 2013, 9:31 pm
Quoting TheWolfBrigade 01

That's the spirit. I have no idea why I would doubt the NCA. Anyways as a close business ally I wish you luck. I knew the "peace treaty" of the BU would shatter like this. Anyways I would leave no mercy and bomb them deliberately if I was in your shoes.

I plan to run this war the same way I ran the last, opening by softening the enemy then pushing in with an infantry push.
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| June 15, 2013, 9:43 pm
Quoting Zach Eli "Sierra" Sykes
I plan to run this war the same way I ran the last, opening by softening the enemy then pushing in with an infantry push.


Or just have the boots boot their doors down.
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| June 15, 2013, 9:47 pm
Quoting TheWolfBrigade 01

Or just have the boots boot their doors down.

???
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| June 15, 2013, 9:48 pm
Quoting Zach Eli "Sierra" Sykes
???


Boots (Infantry)
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| June 15, 2013, 10:05 pm
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Quoting Zach Eli "Sierra" Sykes
The NCA's new Retribution class arsenal ship, designed to rival missile destroyers, packs a battleship worth of VLS firepower into a destroyer size stealth package.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/sierrasykes/9052529249/

That ship is not stealthy, composite/RAM building materials can only do so much and the shape of the ship is hilariously unstealthy. It has a massive exsposed gun, a flat deck covered with missile tubes, and even the bottom of the hull seems to be unstealthy.
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| June 16, 2013, 2:33 am
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Indeed, it is a highly unstealthy design. Simply putting a sloped bridge on the ship won't make it stealthy. Also, it is an enormous ship and it won't help the case either. Stealth means limited weaponry housed inside the hull. This applies to all vehicles. My stealth mocs do the same. The Avalanche helo, the Kuzniecov ship and the EDI UCAV.
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| June 16, 2013, 3:46 am
Quoting Matthew Sylvan
Indeed, it is a highly unstealthy design. Simply putting a sloped bridge on the ship won't make it stealthy. Also, it is an enormous ship and it won't help the case either. Stealth means limited weaponry housed inside the hull. This applies to all vehicles. My stealth mocs do the same. The Avalanche helo, the Kuzniecov ship and the EDI UCAV.

Its as stealthy as I can make it without sacrificing offensive and defensive armament. I also can't do much in the way of retracting firepower becuase of how low profile it actually sits. My hands are pretty tied on that much so unless you can offer a suggestion, the Carbon Composite and other stuff will continue to make it stealthy and the SAM turrets and other stuff will continue to be a problem.
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| June 16, 2013, 8:25 am
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Quoting Zach Eli "Sierra" Sykes
Its as stealthy as I can make it without sacrificing offensive and defensive armament. I also can't do much in the way of retracting firepower becuase of how low profile it actually sits. My hands are pretty tied on that much so unless you can offer a suggestion, the Carbon Composite and other stuff will continue to make it stealthy and the SAM turrets and other stuff will continue to be a problem.
Stealth is all about sacrificing armament.

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| June 16, 2013, 8:55 am
Quoting Matthew Sylvan
Indeed, it is a highly unstealthy design. Simply putting a sloped bridge on the ship won't make it stealthy. Also, it is an enormous ship and it won't help the case either. Stealth means limited weaponry housed inside the hull. This applies to all vehicles. My stealth mocs do the same. The Avalanche helo, the Kuzniecov ship and the EDI UCAV.

okay, Sylvan I need some help. I did make a quick mod for demo purposes and so far, the number of missiles has gone up and I have been able to do a retracting gun, though I may have to cheat on the mechanism due to highly limited space. I do have to chop some armament down to add the helipad back. The problem is the SAM turrets and main gun on the concept I am using are tiny because it is just short of battleship size and was in fact, stealthy.
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| June 16, 2013, 8:58 am
Quoting Matthew Sylvan
Quoting Zach Eli "Sierra" Sykes
Its as stealthy as I can make it without sacrificing offensive and defensive armament. I also can't do much in the way of retracting firepower becuase of how low profile it actually sits. My hands are pretty tied on that much so unless you can offer a suggestion, the Carbon Composite and other stuff will continue to make it stealthy and the SAM turrets and other stuff will continue to be a problem.
Stealth is all about sacrificing armament.

I'm putting two new pics up on my flickr. one is the original concept and the other is the version I have now. Have a look and see if you can be of any assistance.

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| June 16, 2013, 9:06 am
Quoting Zach Eli "Sierra" Sykes
I'm putting two new pics up on my flickr. one is the original concept and the other is the version I have now. Have a look and see if you can be of any assistance.

stuff's up.http://www.flickr.com/photos/sierrasykes/
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| June 16, 2013, 9:19 am
Here's a WIP preview of my fortified boarder. Still needs more work and possibly a slight cut back on defenses. (Needs more realisim!)

-http://www.flickr.com/photos/97021840@N05/9056608851/

It may change by the official release with more strategic weapons and set up. But this is just a concept art. However my cities are fortified like this in a way.

Also I plan to make more as a series.
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| June 16, 2013, 10:44 am
Hm. The BU has a new toy based on the NCA Python. Sounds like a good rival if you ask me. The BU is willing to use any means to win this fight.
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| June 16, 2013, 2:55 pm
I have updated my Leopard tank.

-http://www.flickr.com/photos/97021840@N05/9059698541/in/photostream/

It's more detailed and is more true to the real Leopard 2. It is under production.
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| June 16, 2013, 4:44 pm
Quoting Brickviller -

Time's up.
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| June 16, 2013, 7:09 pm
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The Valkyrie fighter has been offically announced, feel free to check it out. In other news, our invasion plans are being finalised after recieving no reply from the UIS.
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| June 17, 2013, 2:24 am
The NCA is announcing that the ODF War Council has commissioned a tribunal to hear allegations brought before it.
The NCA is also announcing that it's Talon UAVs have all been scrapped and the parts used to boost our production of the Python, which we will prove, is superior to the BU illicitly obtained imitation.
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| June 17, 2013, 8:18 am
Quoting Zach Eli "Sierra" Sykes
The NCA is announcing that the ODF War Council has commissioned a tribunal to hear allegations brought before it.
The NCA is also announcing that it's Talon UAVs have all been scrapped and the parts used to boost our production of the Python, which we will prove, is superior to the BU illicitly obtained imitation.


The Absolute has announced that as of today we are producing all known units at our disposal. Today we have the first of our armed forces at our disposal and plan to have at least 10,000 soldiers this year. Also we have begun mass production of the Leopard 2 tank and set to have 30 of them by next week. Also we are building more strategic warfare to counter any forces. Currently we have 500 Power armor forces and 500 standard infantry by his Absolute's command. Also we have initiated the official drone program to try and reach the highest level of drone warfare.

Also in the news today the defensive walls are being constructed all around the boarders and will be both heavily and strategically armed and combat ready. The Brickville Union is also set to face it's unwarry fate by the hands of the National Corporate Alliance during it's tribunal of proposed action.

That is all today

-Hail Absolute!
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| June 17, 2013, 11:05 am
Quoting TheWolfBrigade 01
The Brickville Union is also set to face it's unwarry fate by the hands of the National Corporate Alliance during it's tribunal of proposed action.

That is all today

-Hail Absolute!

The NCA has no bearing on what the tribunal decides. The tribunal will make an impartial ruling on the allegations brought against the BU and only then will the ODF council decide how to proceed, though the NCA will not let the BU's thievery of the ODF Python UAV go so easily and we fully plan to recoup what land we so graciously granted the BU.


In other news, the NCA has begun production of the new retribution class arsenal ship. It will be a few days before other nations can see it as it will be presented in the same style as the Defiance.
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| June 17, 2013, 11:31 am
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Quoting Zach Eli "Sierra" Sykes
The NCA is announcing that the ODF War Council has commissioned a tribunal to hear allegations brought before it.
The NCA is also announcing that it's Talon UAVs have all been scrapped and the parts used to boost our production of the Python, which we will prove, is superior to the BU illicitly obtained imitation.

Why would scrap all the older models? It's an LDD creation which means you don't have to do that.
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| June 17, 2013, 11:49 am
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The Conglomerate has announced that we will be giving limited production rights of the Valkyrie fighter, among other designs, to the BU as per agreement between our two countries.
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| June 17, 2013, 11:54 am
Quoting Zach Eli "Sierra" Sykes
The NCA has no bearing on what the tribunal decides. The tribunal will make an impartial ruling on the allegations brought against the BU and only then will the ODF council decide how to proceed, though the NCA will not let the BU's thievery of the ODF Python UAV go so easily and we fully plan to recoup what land we so graciously granted the BU.


In other news, the NCA has begun production of the new retribution class arsenal ship. It will be a few days before other nations can see it as it will be presented in the same style as the Defiance.


I meant Oceanic Defense Force not NCA (lol) darn mistake.

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| June 17, 2013, 12:21 pm
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Quoting Matthew McCall
Why would scrap all the older models? It's an LDD creation which means you don't have to do that.
He probably meant in the world of D&C. The Talon is now reitirng, the new drone replaces it.

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| June 17, 2013, 12:22 pm
Quoting Matthew McCall
The Conglomerate has announced that we will be giving limited production rights of the Valkyrie fighter, among other designs, to the BU as per agreement between our two countries.

The NCA is ramping up production of the Pyhton UAV to counter the Valkyrie and is deploying an old legacy task force to the waters near the conglomerate to support recon ops.
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| June 17, 2013, 12:31 pm
Quoting Matthew Sylvan
Quoting Matthew McCall
Why would scrap all the older models? It's an LDD creation which means you don't have to do that.
He probably meant in the world of D&C. The Talon is now reitirng, the new drone replaces it.

you are correct. The Talons remaining have been scrapped to build more Pyhtons and it has yielded me a sizable Pyhton force quite quickly.
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| June 17, 2013, 12:32 pm
Quoting Zach Eli "Sierra" Sykes
you are correct. The Talons remaining have been scrapped to build more Pyhtons and it has yielded me a sizable Pyhton force quite quickly.


And so you are heading to war against the Conglomerate?
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| June 17, 2013, 12:42 pm
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Quoting Zach Eli "Sierra" Sykes
The NCA is ramping up production of the Pyhton UAV to counter the Valkyrie and is deploying an old legacy task force to the waters near the conglomerate to support recon ops.

Recon ops by other countries will not be tolerated in our waters. We ask that you turn back you fleet.
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| June 17, 2013, 12:47 pm
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Quoting Zach Eli "Sierra" Sykes
you are correct. The Talons remaining have been scrapped to build more Pyhtons and it has yielded me a sizable Pyhton force quite quickly.

Feel free to show where the rules allow you to do this. ;)
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| June 17, 2013, 12:48 pm
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A sleeping giant is stirring...

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| June 17, 2013, 12:54 pm
Quoting jack kenyon
A sleeping giant is stirring...


I smell a World War coming on...

-BREAKING ANNOUNCEMENT-

The Absolute has announced that the Air Guard is developing it's first series of air fighters and is set to have them to be produced this week.

Also due to tensions between the ODF, Brickville Union, and the Conglomerate, the Absolute is heading full stream with production and immediate development of emergency warfare to counter known enemies and aid Oceanic Defense Force personnel. Production of antimatter missiles has also commenced.

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| June 17, 2013, 1:01 pm
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Quoting Zach Eli "Sierra" Sykes
The NCA is ramping up production of the Pyhton UAV to counter the Valkyrie and is deploying an old legacy task force to the waters near the conglomerate to support recon ops.
Can I ask you why as I'm his ally? Are you only trying to spy on his jet to know more about it or are you hostile towards us?

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| June 17, 2013, 1:10 pm
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The Conglomerate is getting ready to show its new family of vehicles, which is expected to be the successor to the vast majority of our tracked vehicles including our IFV's, Tanks, and SPAA.
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| June 17, 2013, 1:55 pm
Quoting Matthew McCall
The Conglomerate is getting ready to show its new family of vehicles, which is expected to be the successor to the vast majority of our tracked vehicles including our IFV's, Tanks, and SPAA.


I can't wait. The Absolute is getting ready to show off our new drone pack also.
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| June 17, 2013, 2:03 pm
Quoting Matthew Sylvan
Quoting Zach Eli "Sierra" Sykes
The NCA is ramping up production of the Pyhton UAV to counter the Valkyrie and is deploying an old legacy task force to the waters near the conglomerate to support recon ops.
Can I ask you why as I'm his ally? Are you only trying to spy on his jet to know more about it or are you hostile towards us?

I am not in any way threatening Tongoria but the COnglomerate's continued interference in ODF affairs will not be tolerated by the ODF War Council. I will not turn back my ships. They are a safety net. The Conglomerate would be wise to recall their aircraft immediately.
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| June 17, 2013, 2:19 pm
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We are not sending aircraft but rather letting the BU produce them,among other things. We highly suggest that the ODF reconsider its recent move and recall its fleet, which will not be tolerated. If your fleet enters our Exclusive Economic Zone (200 nautical miles), it will be considered an invasion fleet and will therefore be delt with in an appropriate manner.

As for Tongaria, true allies stick together, and we have good reason to believe that they will stand besides us in the face of this outrageous aggression.
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| June 17, 2013, 2:35 pm
Quoting Matthew McCall
We are not sending aircraft but rather letting the BU produce them,among other things. We highly suggest that the ODF reconsider its recent move and recall its fleet, which will not be tolerated. If your fleet enters our Exclusive Economic Zone (200 nautical miles), it will be considered an invasion fleet and will therefore be delt with in an appropriate manner.

As for Tongaria, true allies stick together, and we have good reason to believe that they will stand besides us in the face of this outrageous aggression.

If my fleet gets that close, you'd never know. This "outrageous aggression" is a reaction to your continued support of ODF enemies and thus interference in ODF affairs. you have no business supporting the BU in any way and this will be treated as an act of aggression against the ODF.


The NCA would like to personally apoligize to our good friend, Tongoria, for dragging you into this mess and we hope that you can avoid the major chaos that may soon ensue.
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| June 17, 2013, 2:42 pm
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Quoting Zach Eli "Sierra" Sykes
If my fleet gets that close, you'd never know. This "outrageous aggression" is a reaction to your continued support of ODF enemies and thus interference in ODF affairs. you have no business supporting the BU in any way and this will be treated as an act of aggression against the ODF.


The NCA would like to personally apoligize to our good friend, Tongoria, for dragging you into this mess and we hope that you can avoid the major chaos that may soon ensue.

We can assure you that we are at high alert and are actively patrolling our oceans in search of your fleet. It will be detected if it gets close, it's that simple.

The mess you speak of is one of your own making, and if things continue this way it will be the ODF who will reap the consquences for it. This is our last warning: turn back your fleet or we may be forced to engage it.
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| June 17, 2013, 3:52 pm
Quoting Matthew McCall
We can assure you that we are at high alert and are actively patrolling our oceans in search of your fleet. It will be detected if it gets close, it's that simple.

The mess you speak of is one of your own making, and if things continue this way it will be the ODF who will reap the consquences for it. This is our last warning: turn back your fleet or we may be forced to engage it.

It has been brought to the attention of the ODF war council that you may actually stand to gain something from aiding the BU. If you can confirm this, the NCA will, against its will, acknowledge your reasons for aiding them. If you are unable to inform us of any benefit you stand to gain, we will be forced to assume this support is an act of aggression of the Conglomerate who, by our latest figures, will not be able to withstand a full on ODF assault.

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| June 17, 2013, 4:00 pm
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Quoting Zach Eli "Sierra" Sykes
It has been brought to the attention of the ODF war council that you may actually stand to gain something from aiding the BU. If you can confirm this, the NCA will, against its will, acknowledge your reasons for aiding them. If you are unable to inform us of any benefit you stand to gain, we will be forced to assume this support is an act of aggression of the Conglomerate who, by our latest figures, will not be able to withstand a full on ODF assault.

Ha, and what are your latest figures? You are poking the T-Rex with a very sharp stick here!
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| June 17, 2013, 4:02 pm
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Quoting Zach Eli "Sierra" Sykes
It has been brought to the attention of the ODF war council that you may actually stand to gain something from aiding the BU. If you can confirm this, the NCA will, against its will, acknowledge your reasons for aiding them. If you are unable to inform us of any benefit you stand to gain, we will be forced to assume this support is an act of aggression of the Conglomerate who, by our latest figures, will not be able to withstand a full on ODF assault.

Simple: we both wanted to make sure the BU was not overrun as we want them to remain an active counter to other power blocks in the region. In other words, we want the status quo kept in the area. Also, by doing this we exspect to have a better partnership with the BU and possible rights to production of several useful designs. Launching an
all out invasion over something like this is simply a massive overreaction.

* outside game talk * Anyway. a full ODF assualt would for all intents and purposes be simply you and Chris attacking as Wolf is currently almost a non-factor. You should also remember that I haven't updated my stats in months. Finally, you would be leaving yourselves open to attack, and I can assure you that you would be fighting more than one country if you do choose to attack. * outside game talk *
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| June 17, 2013, 4:10 pm
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Quoting jack kenyon
Ha, and what are your latest figures? You are poking the T-Rex with a very sharp stick here!

And that T-rex has missiles xD
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| June 17, 2013, 4:10 pm
Quoting jack kenyon
Ha, and what are your latest figures? You are poking the T-Rex with a very sharp stick here!

Kenyon, I don't tell you what to do. I expect the same courtesy.
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| June 17, 2013, 4:29 pm
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Quoting Zach Eli "Sierra" Sykes
Kenyon, I don't tell you what to do. I expect the same courtesy.

He's not telling you what to do but rather simply stating non-objective facts.
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| June 17, 2013, 4:33 pm
Quoting Matthew McCall
Simple: we both wanted to make sure the BU was not overrun as we want them to remain an active counter to other power blocks in the region. In other words, we want the status quo kept in the area. Also, by doing this we exspect to have a better partnership with the BU and possible rights to production of several useful designs. Launching an
all out invasion over something like this is simply a massive overreaction.

* outside game talk * Anyway. a full ODF assualt would for all intents and purposes be simply you and Chris attacking as Wolf is currently almost a non-factor. You should also remember that I haven't updated my stats in months. Finally, you would be leaving yourselves open to attack, and I can assure you that you would be fighting more than one country if you do choose to attack. * outside game talk *

An all out invasion is planned and right now we are busy rock-paper-sissors-ing to find out which of our potential targets to attack. Remember, the ODF is the NCA, AUDF, and EFCF. We have the strongest navy of any alliance by our latest figures.

Also, your "power blocking" is interfering with what the BU has coming. All I can say now is that I am not a member of the tribunal hearing the case, I am presenting it and so far, it has been decided that my case warrants charges. % counts total have been brought against the BU. I will say no more in that respect.

If you wish to continue "power blocking", I suggest you go attack squid. It isn't my fault that we are actually active and refuse to take any s--- from other nations. The BU has this coming and you'd be wise to stay out of it, especially given that in many respects, ODF designs are superior to BU designs.
If you wish any trading future with us, back off.

Remember, I am a PMC who will not expand past my 1 continent. If you feel threatened by me, good. If not, I couldn't care less.
Sylvan, I am terribly sorry your ally cannot accept the fact that this is not his war and he may be about to bring down an ODF assault. I hoped to not force you to choose sides but if the conglomerate maintains their interference.

In other news, the NCA has dispatched its first Defiance carrier task group to an undisclosed staging area they say is within cruise missile range of the conglomerate. They ahve also released the following document:
RECON REPORT 001
MODE: STEALTHED PYTHON UAV
YIELD: Overflights with fully stealthed Pythons have confirmed troop movements toward the conglomerate/UIS border, as to be expected. No further information has been obtained at this time.
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| June 17, 2013, 4:39 pm
Quoting Matthew Sylvan
And that T-rex has missiles xD

Missiles he may have but the ODF does not regard the conglomerate as a T-Rex and that is unlikely to change.
We hit fast, we hit hard. WHEN we hit, whoever we hit, you will have almost zero warning.

All the NCA elects to release in the way of our target list, ordered by priority, is that we have 3 nations currently tied for first position.
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| June 17, 2013, 5:04 pm
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Quoting Zach Eli "Sierra" Sykes
An all out invasion is planned and right now we are busy rock-paper-sissors-ing to find out which of our potential targets to attack. Remember, the ODF is the NCA, AUDF, and EFCF. We have the strongest navy of any alliance by our latest figures.

Also, your "power blocking" is interfering with what the BU has coming. All I can say now is that I am not a member of the tribunal hearing the case, I am presenting it and so far, it has been decided that my case warrants charges. % counts total have been brought against the BU. I will say no more in that respect.

If you wish to continue "power blocking", I suggest you go attack squid. It isn't my fault that we are actually active and refuse to take any s--- from other nations. The BU has this coming and you'd be wise to stay out of it, especially given that in many respects, ODF designs are superior to BU designs.
If you wish any trading future with us, back off.

Remember, I am a PMC who will not expand past my 1 continent. If you feel threatened by me, good. If not, I couldn't care less.
Sylvan, I am terribly sorry your ally cannot accept the fact that this is not his war and he may be about to bring down an ODF assault. I hoped to not force you to choose sides but if the conglomerate maintains their interference.

In other news, the NCA has dispatched its first Defiance carrier task group to an undisclosed staging area they say is within cruise missile range of the conglomerate. They ahve also released the following document:
RECON REPORT 001
MODE: STEALTHED PYTHON UAV
YIELD: Overflights with fully stealthed Pythons have confirmed troop movements toward the conglomerate/UIS border, as to be expected. No further information has been obtained at this time.

Our oppinion of your navy is while that while it may be large, the quality overall us clearly lacking. So called "stealth" ships abound, and yet they have massive (litterally when it comes to the guns) problems that completely ruin any stealth that they may have. The obbession with big gun turrets in general does nothing but lower your ships effectiveness. And your LCS's/navy in general will not be effective in the open seas and at the end of a very long supply line facing the single most powerful nation on this planet.

All we have done is let one country produce one aircraft. If this is all it takes for your country to declare war, then we are of the oppinion that your leaders are far out of touch from releality. We care little for for your oppinion of our military, which will prove you wrong in a trial by fire.

As for your Python UAV, it's impossible for it too have seen that since they are all scrapped, we would have detected it due to the now constant patrols of aircraft we have active, and we deny any troop movements in said region in the first place. However, the placement of your fleet and the said overflight are acts of war. Your carrier group has already been detected and is being shawdowed by undisclosed elements. We feel that we are at the point of no return.
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| June 17, 2013, 5:30 pm
Quoting Matthew McCall
Our oppinion of your navy is while that while it may be large, the quality overall us clearly lacking. So called "stealth" ships abound, and yet they have massive (litterally when it comes to the guns) problems that completely ruin any stealth that they may have. The obbession with big gun turrets in general does nothing but lower your ships effectiveness. And your LCS's/navy in general will not be effective in the open seas and at the end of a very long supply line facing the single most powerful nation on this planet.

All we have done is let one country produce one aircraft. If this is all it takes for your country to declare war, then we are of the oppinion that your leaders are far out of touch from releality. We care little for for your oppinion of our military, which will prove you wrong in a trial by fire.

As for your Python UAV, it's impossible for it too have seen that since they are all scrapped, we would have detected it due to the now constant patrols of aircraft we have active, and we deny any troop movements in said region in the first place. However, the placement of your fleet and the said overflight are acts of war. Your carrier group has already been detected and is being shawdowed by undisclosed elements. We feel that we are at the point of no return.

1. I scrapped the Talon, not the Python.
2. They have advanced optic camo, thermal masking, radar stealthing, etc.
3. You are talking about engaging a carrier group which we have sentf ro recon because we believe your aid to the BU is an act of aggression against the NCA which results in us deploying forces. We have maintained the 200 mile limit and if you fire on that ship, all manner of he ll will rain upon you as the Defiance group is inbound to their aid now.
We have not struck the first blow but if the conglomerate is willing to throw the delicate situation to the fan, that will be on them.

We ask our friend Tongoria one last time to forgive us for what may ensue but unless the conglomerate backs off the carrier group, which has not violated their request to stay back, war may soon be inevitable.


The Legacy force in place is currently aware of it's tail and is actively patroling waters to the south of 219. It will briefly enter the waters of 221 to say hi to Tongoria for us. The Defiance group, assisted by our first Retribution ships, is inbound to reinforce from 218.
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| June 17, 2013, 5:41 pm
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After long months, finally our alliance gets its name. Named after our alliance group it is called...

... Super Mega Awesome Rapid-response Taskforce or SMART for short
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| June 17, 2013, 5:45 pm
Quoting Matthew Sylvan
After long months, finally our alliance gets its name. Named after our alliance group it is called...

... Super Mega Awesome Rapid-response Taskforce or SMART for short

Nice. Now can you see if you can possibly spare our friendship by cooling off a McCall who is more than ready to destroy both his future relations and yours? He is about to fire on a carrier group that has not violated the 200 mile keep-out request and with that, destroy all relations between the ODF and SMART.
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| June 17, 2013, 5:49 pm
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Quoting Zach Eli "Sierra" Sykes
1. I scrapped the Talon, not the Python.
2. They have advanced optic camo, thermal masking, radar stealthing, etc.
3. You are talking about engaging a carrier group which we have sentf ro recon because we believe your aid to the BU is an act of aggression against the NCA which results in us deploying forces. We have maintained the 200 mile limit and if you fire on that ship, all manner of he ll will rain upon you as the Defiance group is inbound to their aid now.
We have not struck the first blow but if the conglomerate is willing to throw the delicate situation to the fan, that will be on them.

We ask our friend Tongoria one last time to forgive us for what may ensue but unless the conglomerate backs off the carrier group, which has not violated their request to stay back, war may soon be inevitable.


The Legacy force in place is currently aware of it's tail and is actively patroling waters to the south of 219. It will briefly enter the waters of 221 to say hi to Tongoria for us. The Defiance group, assisted by our first Retribution ships, is inbound to reinforce from 218.

It is you who claims to have breached our airspace, which is in and of itself an act of war. You are the one threatening invasion. You are the one who has parked a fleet off his opponent's coast. It's clear the one pushing war here is the ODF, not the Conglomerate.
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| June 17, 2013, 5:51 pm
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Quoting Zach Eli "Sierra" Sykes
Nice. Now can you see if you can possibly spare our friendship by cooling off a McCall who is more than ready to destroy both his future relations and yours? He is about to fire on a carrier group that has not violated the 200 mile keep-out request and with that, destroy all relations between the ODF and SMART.

The only faction here who needs to cool off here is the ODF. You're the ones threating invasion, not us. Tongaria and I firmly stand together on this.
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| June 17, 2013, 5:54 pm
Quoting Matthew McCall
The only faction here who needs to cool off here is the ODF. You're the ones threating invasion, not us. Tongaria and I firmly stand together on this.

Then they can say that. Sylvan is well spoken. let him make that call.
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| June 17, 2013, 5:55 pm
Quoting Matthew McCall
It is you who claims to have breached our airspace, which is in and of itself an act of war. You are the one threatening invasion. You are the one who has parked a fleet off his opponent's coast. It's clear the one pushing war here is the ODF, not the Conglomerate.

I'm prepared to bring down invasion. Right now that is a scouting group intent on determining whether or not you actually mean any threat. Right now, we have no reason to believe that you have any motivation other than interfering in affairs that do not concern you for the heck of it.

The BU will get whats coming to them. Right now the question is do I have to destroy a friendship and take a whack at a self-proclaimed super power to do it. You didnt rate on our list of targets until today. I will not say where on it you stand but I will say, though I don't have bigger fish to fry, I have more pressing problems to deal with then your constant meddling in ODF business. The Defiance task force is being called back in preparation for Operation Normandy. Who this will engage, we will not say.
The Legacy task force will remain near 221.
The Python recon overflights will be reduced.
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| June 17, 2013, 6:01 pm
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Quoting Zach Eli "Sierra" Sykes
Then they can say that. Sylvan is well spoken. let him make that call.

We have been allies since almost the first game. I will stay beside him always. Matthews unite!
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| June 17, 2013, 6:01 pm
Quoting Matthew Sylvan
We have been allies since almost the first game. I will stay beside him always. Matthews unite!

The cards have fallen.
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| June 17, 2013, 6:02 pm
The Absolute has released photos of the new drone pack.

-http://www.flickr.com/photos/97021840@N05/9069553675/
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| June 17, 2013, 6:03 pm
Quoting TheWolfBrigade 01
The Absolute has released photos of the new drone pack.

-http://www.flickr.com/photos/97021840@N05/9069553675/

The NCA has begun development of a new medium high speed bomber and would like to announce delays on the showcase of the Retribution class arsenal ship. Rendering issues are a pain.
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| June 17, 2013, 6:05 pm
The Absolute has announced development of new Main Battle Tanks including one that is designed to counter the Brickville Union's Ogre. We will not tolerate threats to our neighboring allies and that we may ask the Oceanic Defense Force to accept a proposal to develop greater technology that will counter the BU's warfare.
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| June 17, 2013, 6:35 pm
The NCA is pre-occupied with its own R&D project. We have just released a proof of concept pic showing the planned layout of our new bomber.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/sierrasykes/9072042622/
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| June 17, 2013, 6:40 pm
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The EFCF has released 3 new unit to there arsenal:

M-04 Trebuchet Heavy Anti-Air Artillery
http://www.mocpages.com/moc.php/362648

M-05 Jegerjak Long Range Railgun Artillery
http://www.mocpages.com/moc.php/362649

M-06 Rover
http://www.mocpages.com/moc.php/362650

McCall, can you hold off on the comments on these three unit at this time until I have a description for them.
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| June 17, 2013, 7:45 pm
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Quoting TheWolfBrigade 01
The Absolute has announced development of new Main Battle Tanks including one that is designed to counter the Brickville Union's Ogre. We will not tolerate threats to our neighboring allies and that we may ask the Oceanic Defense Force to accept a proposal to develop greater technology that will counter the BU's warfare.

I found out that you do not have enough carrier capable aircraft for your carriers and i took the liberty to find out how many forces you have and estimate how many soldier and citizens based on how many territories you have and this is what i have:


Absolute Sovialist Empire

population: 7,500,000
Standing Army: 450,000
Reserves: 285,000

Armor:
Leopard 2: 30
Challanger: 30
Leopard 1: 30

Airforce:
Phoenix UAV: 30
Hornet UAV: 30
MQ-9 Reaper UAV: 30
Sparrow UAV: 30

Navy:
Victoria-Class Supercarrier: 1
IronClad-Class Battleship Ver 2: 1
Defender-Class Carrier: 1
Victoria-Class Supercarrier Ver 2: 1
Unnamed-Class Stealthship: 2
Neptune-Class Sea Destroyer/Dreadnought: 1
Small unnamed Stealthship: 10
Ironclad-Class Battlehship: 1
Large Unnamed Stealth Ship: 1
Seraph-Class Missile Boat: 2

This is a rough estimate on your forces and this is how a real stats should look like.

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| June 17, 2013, 8:57 pm
Quoting Christian Bish
I found out that you do not have enough carrier capable aircraft for your carriers and i took the liberty to find out how many forces you have and estimate how many soldier and citizens based on how many territories you have and this is what i have:


Absolute Sovialist Empire

population: 7,500,000
Standing Army: 450,000
Reserves: 285,000

Armor:
Leopard 2: 30
Challanger: 30
Leopard 1: 30

Airforce:
Phoenix UAV: 30
Hornet UAV: 30
MQ-9 Reaper UAV: 30
Sparrow UAV: 30

Navy:
Victoria-Class Supercarrier: 1
IronClad-Class Battleship Ver 2: 1
Defender-Class Carrier: 1
Victoria-Class Supercarrier Ver 2: 1
Unnamed-Class Stealthship: 2
Neptune-Class Sea Destroyer/Dreadnought: 1
Small unnamed Stealthship: 10
Ironclad-Class Battlehship: 1
Large Unnamed Stealth Ship: 1
Seraph-Class Missile Boat: 2

This is a rough estimate on your forces and this is how a real stats should look like.


("Absolute Sovialist Empire"? lol for a moment I thought it said Slovakian lol)

If this is true then I THANK YOU!!! Yes! I most appreciate it! When I first posed my stuff I didn't get to start my stats because I was busy building alot of my mocs for this game. THANK YOU SO MUCH! (Hands you a million cookies plus a sweet apple pie)

Now I can use this and advance towards building an organized force.
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| June 17, 2013, 9:09 pm
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Quoting TheWolfBrigade 01

("Absolute Sovialist Empire"? lol for a moment I thought it said Slovakian lol)

If this is true then I THANK YOU!!! Yes! I most appreciate it! When I first posed my stuff I didn't get to start my stats because I was busy building alot of my mocs for this game. THANK YOU SO MUCH! (Hands you a million cookies plus a sweet apple pie)

Now I can use this and advance towards building an organized force.

You are welcome and if you want to be a powerful faction look at my stats:


Edenor Federation Coalition forces
Population: 19,261,320
Military forces:
Ready 494,000
Reserved 379,000

Ground
-Infantry
Riflemen: 95,600
Plex Trooper: 48,200
Sniper: 15,500
Engineer: 14,500
Heavy Trooper: 28,300
Medic: 22,000
Melee Trooper: 37,100
Gunner: 25,700
Guard Trooper: 40,150
Support Gunner: 13,700
Commando: 45,000
Grenadier: 55,000
Jump Trooper: 55,000

-Light
M-02 Hog: 40
HMAWDV-21 Jaguar: 363
HMAWDV-21R Jaguar: 362
M-28 Moose: 288
M-11 Striker: 108
M-47 Gopher (LFSV): 113
M-48 Mole (HMT): 77
M-48/T Mole Transport: 79
APC-2 Aardvark: 50
Stalker LCM: 5
M119 ASV: 5
M12 LRV: 80
M-06 Rover: 80

-Medium
GMX-001 Gardna UCM: 90
MAX-Class RAM: 274
M-12 Helon (MHT): 46
M-14 Wombat LAV: 121
M-66 Armadillo AFV: 180
M-212 Titan Transport: 311
M-122 Wolverine MBT: 141
M-17 Sheppard MBT: 100
M212 MLRS: 5
MBT-H-250 Ares: 5
Gargoyle IFV: 5
Striker IFV: 5

-Heavy
M2 Dragoon Artillery: 173
M7 MRLS: 67
T-666 Hellbent Command Tank: 52
Titan Heavy Siege Mech: 44
M-24 Longbolt Artillery: 87
M-12/H Helon Heavy Tank: 62
Jormonger Mobile Artillery: 20
M-03 Devastator Tank Destroyer: 50
M-05 Jegerjak (LRRGA): 30
M-04 Trebuchet (HAAA): 60

-Drones
DU-14 Hound: 212
DU-14/H Hound: 170
M-13 Panther UGV 135
Anti-Tank Spider Drones: 20
Phalanx-Class (STD): 52
Phalanx-Class (SAAU): 52


Air
-Fighters
T-33 Interceptor: 238
YF-74 "Flareguard" (ASF): 99
YF-75 "Corsair" (LRUAVSF): 30
AV-40 Thunderhawks: 29
UF-44 Talon UAV Fighters: 43
F/A-40 Zeus: 142
SK-105A Skyraider: 60
SK-90A Firebird: 50
F-24A Razorcat: 80
SK-102A Shadowhawk: 5
Hornet-K Harrier: 19
ODF Python UAV: 30

-Bombers
YF-101 Thunderhawk (MPA): 61
YF-73 "Night-Fury" (HSB): 36
B-01 "Orbital" (HAB): 12
B-02 "Titan" Strategic Bomber: 12

-Cargo
SC-130 Poseidon: 10
CL-125 Titan: 10

-Helicopters/Gunships
UH-44 Viper Gunship: 115
AB-1 Brute: 40
UH-7 Shubby: 10
Havoc Medium Gunship: 15
TX-50A Ranger: 10
B-1-AB High Speed Gunship: 39
ViC-50 Cheetah: 30
ViC-9 Avalanche: 5
AML-12: 5
UH-44/T Viper Transport Gunship: 25

-Arial Drones
UAG-01 Grunt: 55
UAG-02 Troll: 55
UAG-03 Huntsman: 30
Cyclopes Heavy Drone Gunship: 5
Sweeper Light Drone Gunship: 15
UAV-22 Longeye Recon Drone: 44
Imp Reconnaissance Drone: 201


Warships
Archer-Class Missile Cruiser: 17
Golem-Class Super Carrier: 2
Hammer-Class Missile Destroyer: 20
Heleos-Class Heavy Cruiser: 10
Spear-Class Missile Submarine: 1
Tortus-Class Beach Lander: 16
Edwards-Class Assault/Aircraft carrier: 5
Posiden-Class (EABS): 2
Judgement-class Battlecarrier: 1
Tortoga-Class Cruiser: 1
Pegases-Class Assault/Aircraft Carrier: 1
Yamoto-Class Battleship: 2
Eagle-Class Air Battleship/Dreadnought: 1
Nike-Class Airborne Patrol Ship: 13
Orca-Class Transport: 3
Oklahoma-Class Minelayer/Hunter: 4
Daedalus-Class (BMS): 1
Huntress-Class Attack Submarine: 1
Hellfire-Class destroyer 2
M-24 Valcrum LCAC: 177
M-24/H Valcrum LCAC: 117
M-01 Gornam Amphibious APC: 60

xxxxx

110 ground forces
(1000 Standard infantry)
--600 Rifleman
--400 Engineers
(650 Heavy Infantry)
--300 Heavy troopers
--150 Guard Troopers
--200 Support Gunners
(200 Elite Infantry)
--100 Melee Trooper
--100 Commando

30 M-122 Wolverine MBT (6/18/2013)
60 M7 MRLS (6/18/2013)
20 M-24 Longbolt Artillery (6/18/2013)

70 Aircraft

30 UF-44 Talon UAV Fighter (6/18/2013)
30 ODF Python UAV (6/18/2013)
20 YF-73 "Night-Fury" High Speed Bomber (6/18/2013)

35 Naval units

2 Yamoto-Class Battleship (7/2/2013)
4 Tortoga-Class Cruiser (7/2/2013)
2 Daedalus-Class Ballistic Missile Submarine (7/2/2013)
4 Heleos-Class Heavy Cruiser (7/2/2013)
2 Huntress-Class Attack Submarine (7/2/2013)
4 Archer-Class Missile Cruiser (7/2/2013)
2 Spear-Class Missile Submarine (7/2/2013)
1 Eagle-Class Air Battleship/Dreadnought (7/2/2013)
4 Hellfire-Class Destroyers (7/2/2013)

This is how far i got but then again i was one of the first people to be invited.
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| June 17, 2013, 9:14 pm
Quoting Christian Bish
You are welcome and if you want to be a powerful faction look at my stats:


Edenor Federation Coalition forces
Population: 19,261,320
Military forces:
Ready 494,000
Reserved 379,000

Ground
-Infantry
Riflemen: 95,600
Plex Trooper: 48,200
Sniper: 15,500
Engineer: 14,500
Heavy Trooper: 28,300
Medic: 22,000
Melee Trooper: 37,100
Gunner: 25,700
Guard Trooper: 40,150
Support Gunner: 13,700
Commando: 45,000
Grenadier: 55,000
Jump Trooper: 55,000

-Light
M-02 Hog: 40
HMAWDV-21 Jaguar: 363
HMAWDV-21R Jaguar: 362
M-28 Moose: 288
M-11 Striker: 108
M-47 Gopher (LFSV): 113
M-48 Mole (HMT): 77
M-48/T Mole Transport: 79
APC-2 Aardvark: 50
Stalker LCM: 5
M119 ASV: 5
M12 LRV: 80
M-06 Rover: 80

-Medium
GMX-001 Gardna UCM: 90
MAX-Class RAM: 274
M-12 Helon (MHT): 46
M-14 Wombat LAV: 121
M-66 Armadillo AFV: 180
M-212 Titan Transport: 311
M-122 Wolverine MBT: 141
M-17 Sheppard MBT: 100
M212 MLRS: 5
MBT-H-250 Ares: 5
Gargoyle IFV: 5
Striker IFV: 5

-Heavy
M2 Dragoon Artillery: 173
M7 MRLS: 67
T-666 Hellbent Command Tank: 52
Titan Heavy Siege Mech: 44
M-24 Longbolt Artillery: 87
M-12/H Helon Heavy Tank: 62
Jormonger Mobile Artillery: 20
M-03 Devastator Tank Destroyer: 50
M-05 Jegerjak (LRRGA): 30
M-04 Trebuchet (HAAA): 60

-Drones
DU-14 Hound: 212
DU-14/H Hound: 170
M-13 Panther UGV 135
Anti-Tank Spider Drones: 20
Phalanx-Class (STD): 52
Phalanx-Class (SAAU): 52


Air
-Fighters
T-33 Interceptor: 238
YF-74 "Flareguard" (ASF): 99
YF-75 "Corsair" (LRUAVSF): 30
AV-40 Thunderhawks: 29
UF-44 Talon UAV Fighters: 43
F/A-40 Zeus: 142
SK-105A Skyraider: 60
SK-90A Firebird: 50
F-24A Razorcat: 80
SK-102A Shadowhawk: 5
Hornet-K Harrier: 19
ODF Python UAV: 30

-Bombers
YF-101 Thunderhawk (MPA): 61
YF-73 "Night-Fury" (HSB): 36
B-01 "Orbital" (HAB): 12
B-02 "Titan" Strategic Bomber: 12

-Cargo
SC-130 Poseidon: 10
CL-125 Titan: 10

-Helicopters/Gunships
UH-44 Viper Gunship: 115
AB-1 Brute: 40
UH-7 Shubby: 10
Havoc Medium Gunship: 15
TX-50A Ranger: 10
B-1-AB High Speed Gunship: 39
ViC-50 Cheetah: 30
ViC-9 Avalanche: 5
AML-12: 5
UH-44/T Viper Transport Gunship: 25

-Arial Drones
UAG-01 Grunt: 55
UAG-02 Troll: 55
UAG-03 Huntsman: 30
Cyclopes Heavy Drone Gunship: 5
Sweeper Light Drone Gunship: 15
UAV-22 Longeye Recon Drone: 44
Imp Reconnaissance Drone: 201


Warships
Archer-Class Missile Cruiser: 17
Golem-Class Super Carrier: 2
Hammer-Class Missile Destroyer: 20
Heleos-Class Heavy Cruiser: 10
Spear-Class Missile Submarine: 1
Tortus-Class Beach Lander: 16
Edwards-Class Assault/Aircraft carrier: 5
Posiden-Class (EABS): 2
Judgement-class Battlecarrier: 1
Tortoga-Class Cruiser: 1
Pegases-Class Assault/Aircraft Carrier: 1
Yamoto-Class Battleship: 2
Eagle-Class Air Battleship/Dreadnought: 1
Nike-Class Airborne Patrol Ship: 13
Orca-Class Transport: 3
Oklahoma-Class Minelayer/Hunter: 4
Daedalus-Class (BMS): 1
Huntress-Class Attack Submarine: 1
Hellfire-Class destroyer 2
M-24 Valcrum LCAC: 177
M-24/H Valcrum LCAC: 117
M-01 Gornam Amphibious APC: 60

xxxxx

110 ground forces
(1000 Standard infantry)
--600 Rifleman
--400 Engineers
(650 Heavy Infantry)
--300 Heavy troopers
--150 Guard Troopers
--200 Support Gunners
(200 Elite Infantry)
--100 Melee Trooper
--100 Commando

30 M-122 Wolverine MBT (6/18/2013)
60 M7 MRLS (6/18/2013)
20 M-24 Longbolt Artillery (6/18/2013)

70 Aircraft

30 UF-44 Talon UAV Fighter (6/18/2013)
30 ODF Python UAV (6/18/2013)
20 YF-73 "Night-Fury" High Speed Bomber (6/18/2013)

35 Naval units

2 Yamoto-Class Battleship (7/2/2013)
4 Tortoga-Class Cruiser (7/2/2013)
2 Daedalus-Class Ballistic Missile Submarine (7/2/2013)
4 Heleos-Class Heavy Cruiser (7/2/2013)
2 Huntress-Class Attack Submarine (7/2/2013)
4 Archer-Class Missile Cruiser (7/2/2013)
2 Spear-Class Missile Submarine (7/2/2013)
1 Eagle-Class Air Battleship/Dreadnought (7/2/2013)
4 Hellfire-Class Destroyers (7/2/2013)

This is how far i got but then again i was one of the first people to be invited.


From mine I can add more units based on more multi-role and strategic design. With more smaller ships (destroyers, combat ships with dedicated weapon systems, LCS, tank like boats etc) I can have an advantage to be just as powerful. I'm now going to focus on ground forces and navy. Air services will be limited to drones and airships.
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| June 17, 2013, 9:27 pm
The NCA is nearing completion of the first prototype of the Manta high speed bomber. The bomber is expected to be in production before the end of the week and will enter flight testing as early as tomorrow.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/sierrasykes/9073171282/
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| June 17, 2013, 9:52 pm
The Absolute has announced MASS unit production and is volunteering aid to the Oceanic Defense Force cause. He offers his strength and suppoert for the upcoming war against the Brickville Union and is planning to aid any resource to the ODF to pillage the Brickville Union to rubble. We also pledge our hearts and aid to the NCA, EFCF, and the AUDF. The Absolute wishes well to those in need of this time of war.
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| June 17, 2013, 10:11 pm
Quoting TheWolfBrigade 01
The Absolute has announced MASS unit production and is volunteering aid to the Oceanic Defense Force cause. He offers his strength and suppoert for the upcoming war against the Brickville Union and is planning to aid any resource to the ODF to pillage the Brickville Union to rubble. We also pledge our hearts and aid to the NCA, EFCF, and the AUDF. The Absolute wishes well to those in need of this time of war.

The NCA denies such allegations. No war is brewing for the BU. The ODF War Council tribunal is evaluating the charges brought against them. Until the BU is found guilty, they will not be a target.

The NCA is also announcing its plans for the Manta Bomber. We currently plan to maintain a stock force of 200 Manta bombers. This force will take some time to amass but, when completed, will be able to level a small country in a single mission.
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| June 17, 2013, 10:22 pm
Quoting Zach Eli "Sierra" Sykes
The NCA denies such allegations. No war is brewing for the BU. The ODF War Council tribunal is evaluating the charges brought against them. Until the BU is found guilty, they will not be a target.

The NCA is also announcing its plans for the Manta Bomber. We currently plan to maintain a stock force of 200 Manta bombers. This force will take some time to amass but, when completed, will be able to level a small country in a single mission.


Until then I mean. But the Absolute is in full gratitude and as a token of his appreciation, we grant you servitude (partnership for war as in) The Absolute has also announced development of it's newest bomber wing partly A.I but has a human pilot. It will be unrevealed latter this week

*out of game*
Yeah, it's gonna be a good piece of work.

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| June 17, 2013, 11:02 pm
Quoting TheWolfBrigade 01

Until then I mean. But the Absolute is in full gratitude and as a token of his appreciation, we grant you servitude (partnership for war as in) The Absolute has also announced development of it's newest bomber wing partly A.I but has a human pilot. It will be unrevealed latter this week

*out of game*
Yeah, it's gonna be a good piece of work.

Out of game: did you have a look at the near-complete Manta bomber? It's a piece a work. I just got the figs in cockpit (4 of em) and I plan on doing 3 variants. Lots of work tonight.
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| June 17, 2013, 11:09 pm
Quoting Zach Eli "Sierra" Sykes
Out of game: did you have a look at the near-complete Manta bomber? It's a piece a work. I just got the figs in cockpit (4 of em) and I plan on doing 3 variants. Lots of work tonight.


Same here. But I'm also stuck watching a Sergio Leone film Once Upon A Time In The West (Personally it's a sin to miss ANY of his films) but I have all day tomorrow. Also the bomber is inspired by the YB-49 mixed with more 80s futurism to it. It will be automated like a drone but it also uses a human pilot to interact with the Artificial Intelligence systems that the pilot can easily manipulate. It also takes some traits from the B-2 Spirit. Also the Neptune has received an upgrade to it's bridge design. Also I need to work on helicopters and official manned fighter jets and light bombers. I have alot more to work on. Also I'm working on Amphibious Assault Boats that are used as tank and infantry transport roles. Also I'm set to work on an official missile ship/destroyer to work around the fleet I currently have. Also I'm working on hardsuits and battlesuits but that may take awhile. Anyways have a good night.
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| June 17, 2013, 11:26 pm
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Quoting Zach Eli "Sierra" Sykes
The NCA is nearing completion of the first prototype of the Manta high speed bomber. The bomber is expected to be in production before the end of the week and will enter flight testing as early as tomorrow.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/sierrasykes/9073171282/

The manta doesn't look like it can travel at hypersonic speeds due to its poor shape and immense size. If you want hypersonic aircraft, you actually have to build a frame that could plausibly go that fast. If you are interested, Nightmare has an excellent example of what a hypersonic aircraft would look like.
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| June 18, 2013, 12:33 am
The Absolute has announced the revival of the Leviathan Project only THIS tome the project will focus on a "true" megaship that deals in strategic efforts. I have some plans to revive the original Leviathan I to make it more realistically seaworthy but it may be awhile before the final product may sail the ocean. (Yes his Absolute needs a flagship that tells everyone that he is the boss of the Absolute fleet)

*out of game*

I'm obsessing with the schematics I made awhile back but this time I need something a bit more realistic. I'll post the schematic for all to see tomorrow. It's a very great design but it needs more practice if I want to have at least 1 supership to sail the vast continents of the ocean. It's like Nemo's Nautilus but slightly bigger.
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| June 18, 2013, 12:56 am
The Union has begun first testings of the EPSE Installation. First results showed moderate succes on a small scale.
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| June 18, 2013, 1:49 am
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The first TNS Ironclad will soon enter the waters of New Babylon.
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| June 18, 2013, 3:59 am
Quoting Matthew McCall
The manta doesn't look like it can travel at hypersonic speeds due to its poor shape and immense size. If you want hypersonic aircraft, you actually have to build a frame that could plausibly go that fast. If you are interested, Nightmare has an excellent example of what a hypersonic aircraft would look like.

4 ramjets = yes it can.
4 ramjets +90 tons of bombs = ~mach 4 with afterburners fireballed.
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| June 18, 2013, 7:22 am
Quoting Matthew Sylvan
The first TNS Ironclad will soon enter the waters of New Babylon.

??? TNS Ironclad? You have a ship we don't know about? Sounds interesting if thats the case. If so, When will we see it?

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| June 18, 2013, 8:07 am
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Quoting Zach Eli "Sierra" Sykes
??? TNS Ironclad? You have a ship we don't know about? Sounds interesting if thats the case. If so, When will we see it?
Probalby today. It is micro-scale (same as the Kizniecov) and features a fully detailed interior with a bridge, captain's quarters, dinning room, a kitchen, crew's quarter, missile silos, extra, not loaded missiles, a Seahopper (also new MoC), 4 zodiacs and a slide-out heli-pad. All this in one ship. Of course, it has hidden weaponry.

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| June 18, 2013, 8:21 am
Quoting Matthew Sylvan
Quoting Zach Eli "Sierra" Sykes
??? TNS Ironclad? You have a ship we don't know about? Sounds interesting if thats the case. If so, When will we see it?
Probalby today. It is micro-scale (same as the Kizniecov) and features a fully detailed interior with a bridge, captain's quarters, dinning room, a kitchen, crew's quarter, missile silos, extra, not loaded missiles, a Seahopper (also new MoC), 4 zodiacs and a slide-out heli-pad. All this in one ship. Of course, it has hidden weaponry.

0.0 OOOooohhh. Sounds very nice.
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| June 18, 2013, 8:43 am
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Quoting Zach Eli "Sierra" Sykes
4 ramjets = yes it can.
4 ramjets +90 tons of bombs = ~mach 4 with afterburners fireballed.
Hypersonic speed is above mach 5. Those big wings at mach 4 will be simply ripped off by the drag. My Turul which has a better shape for such speeds has a limited maximum speed of mach 3 to save the body from crippling.

Also:
Ramjets cannot produce thrust at zero airspeed, thus they cannot move an aircraft from a standstill. - Wikipedia
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| June 18, 2013, 8:47 am
Quoting Matthew Sylvan
Quoting Zach Eli "Sierra" Sykes
4 ramjets = yes it can.
4 ramjets +90 tons of bombs = ~mach 4 with afterburners fireballed.
Hypersonic speed is above mach 5. Those big wings at mach 4 will be simply ripped off by the drag. My Turul which has a better shape for such speeds has a limited maximum speed of mach 3 to save the body from crippling.

Also:
Ramjets cannot produce thrust at zero airspeed, thus they cannot move an aircraft from a standstill. - Wikipedia

I refuse to disclose classified information on how the aircraft functions but I will say that some of what you say is true for the flight characteristics, At hypersonic speeds, we did experience severe control compression.
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| June 18, 2013, 8:53 am
The ODF released a report today on the status of a tribunal it convened to hear allegations against the BU. The report has been reproduced below.

The Brickville Union has been brought to the attention of an ODF War Council tribunal this afternoon on several counts of civilian and military peace and wartime crimes. The tribunal evaluated accusation on the following charges:
The NCA has served as prosecution and has not served on the tribunal so it may maintain its impartialness. The NCA brought allegations, which were deemed sufficient to press charges.

Second degree tech stealing – 2 counts
-The BU has taken heavy inspiration and design elements from the ODF python in their new Shura Drone, thus insulting the ODF and more specifically, the AUDF and NCA who built the Python. The BU has also taken heavy inspiration and design elements for said drone from a nation friendly with the NCA and ODF, Tongoria and their EDI UCAV. Neither of these were commited with permission or credit given where credit is due.
First degree tech stealing – 1 count
The BU is believed to have obtained the blueprints for the Python against the will and knowledge of the ODF, who has not authorized the sale of such technology.
Second degree violation of terms of armistice – 1 count
The BU made an exchange the past week with Gaufran in ‘BU Chamber of Warfare’.
First degree violation of terms of armistice – 1 count
The BU founded the group ‘IBAP’ then invited and had an exchange with Gaufran, a nation they were ordered to sever all ties with. This statement can be confirmed by sources inside ‘IBAP’ courtesy of our good friend, Tongoria.

The tribunal has found the BU guilty on 4 out of 5 counts.
Despite the NCA’s best efforts to prove the count of tech stealing 1st degree, we could not remove all reasonable doubt and the tribunal has ruled this count as not valid for the basis of any major decision.
On the basis of such decision, the ODF War Council has no choice but to declare war and engage this enemy with both extreme prejudice and intent to destroy.

The NCA has also issued a statement:

To those nations who have been a friend to us and have also fallen victim to the BU’s tech thievery, we offer our full assistance to you should you join our cause and seek the retribution you deserve. We offer Tongoria a seat on the ODF War Council to hear our proposals and to consider our compensation package on the condition of victory.
We also demand an unconditional surrender from the BU before that colony the NCA so graciously gave you changes hands once again.

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| June 18, 2013, 8:54 am
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Quoting Zach Eli "Sierra" Sykes
0.0 OOOooohhh. Sounds very nice.
Also, it has limited submarine capabilities (nothing looks like this in the group). It is mainly used only for hiding.
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| June 18, 2013, 9:15 am
Quoting Matthew Sylvan
Quoting Zach Eli "Sierra" Sykes
0.0 OOOooohhh. Sounds very nice.
Also, it has limited submarine capabilities (nothing looks like this in the group). It is mainly used only for hiding.

I thought about giving my Retribution ship that. Since it is only on flickr at the moment, it isn't too late to add that back.

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| June 18, 2013, 9:17 am
Quoting Zach Eli "Sierra" Sykes
Second degree tech stealing – 2 counts
-The BU has taken heavy inspiration and design elements from the ODF python in their new Shura Drone, thus insulting the ODF and more specifically, the AUDF and NCA who built the Python. The BU has also taken heavy inspiration and design elements for said drone from a nation friendly with the NCA and ODF, Tongoria and their EDI UCAV. Neither of these were commited with permission or credit given where credit is due.


1.
Here's your proof: http://www.brickshelf.com/gallery/dutch/Military/2.png

The Union never used the construction of the ODF drone with their development. The only thing that is similar is it's function and general shape. This can be said just about any rifle, soldier, tank or ship currently deployed in the real world military.


Quoting Zach Eli "Sierra" Sykes
First degree tech stealing – 1 count
The BU is believed to have obtained the blueprints for the Python against the will and knowledge of the ODF, who has not authorized the sale of such technology.


2.
If you put them on your pages without any warning you can't say we've obtained them iligaly. This is like giving someone an book for free and come back to say that if the book was read it wouldn't be free anymore. As pointed out before, the Union didn't copy it 1-1. In case you didn't want this to happen I strongly advice you not to put them on your pages for free again.

Quoting Zach Eli "Sierra" Sykes
Second degree violation of terms of armistice – 1 count
The BU made an exchange the past week with Gaufran in ‘BU Chamber of Warfare’.
First degree violation of terms of armistice – 1 count
The BU founded the group ‘IBAP’ then invited and had an exchange with Gaufran, a nation they were ordered to sever all ties with. This statement can be confirmed by sources inside ‘IBAP’ courtesy of our good friend, Tongoria.


3.
That may be, but the deal was the Union COULD have conversations with Gaufran. Only discussions about military operations and exchange of weapons without payment would be a violation of the treaty.

Quoting Zach Eli "Sierra" Sykes
The tribunal has found the BU guilty on 4 out of 5 counts.


4.
As pointed out before, all these accusations are untrue and founded on suspisiouns with no hard evidence.

Quoting Zach Eli "Sierra" Sykes
On the basis of such decision, the ODF War Council has no choice but to declare war and engage this enemy with both extreme prejudice and intent to destroy.


A war based on nothing will have a negative effect on your populations opinion, not even speaking about the other countries surrounding yours.


Quoting Zach Eli "Sierra" Sykes
We also demand an unconditional surrender from the BU before that colony the NCA so graciously gave you changes hands once again.


If you violate the treaty you won't get your land. That was the deal, stick with it.


Also next time I strongly advice you to form a INDEPENDENT committee to research stuff like stealing technology. You're absolutely not creditworthy when you do the so called research without acces to my model , and when you have something to gain out of the outcome of the tribunal. Just my 2 cents
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| June 18, 2013, 10:21 am
Quoting Brickviller -

1.
Here's your proof: http://www.brickshelf.com/gallery/dutch/Military/2.png

The Union never used the construction of the ODF drone with their development. The only thing that is similar is it's function and general shape. This can be said just about any rifle, soldier, tank or ship currently deployed in the real world military.


Quoting Zach Eli "Sierra" Sykes
First degree tech stealing – 1 count
The BU is believed to have obtained the blueprints for the Python against the will and knowledge of the ODF, who has not authorized the sale of such technology.


2.
If you put them on your pages without any warning you can't say we've obtained them iligaly. This is like giving someone an book for free and come back to say that if the book was read it wouldn't be free anymore. As pointed out before, the Union didn't copy it 1-1. In case you didn't want this to happen I strongly advice you not to put them on your pages for free again.

Quoting Zach Eli "Sierra" Sykes
Second degree violation of terms of armistice – 1 count
The BU made an exchange the past week with Gaufran in ‘BU Chamber of Warfare’.
First degree violation of terms of armistice – 1 count
The BU founded the group ‘IBAP’ then invited and had an exchange with Gaufran, a nation they were ordered to sever all ties with. This statement can be confirmed by sources inside ‘IBAP’ courtesy of our good friend, Tongoria.


3.
That may be, but the deal was the Union COULD have conversations with Gaufran. Only discussions about military operations and exchange of weapons without payment would be a violation of the treaty.

Quoting Zach Eli "Sierra" Sykes
The tribunal has found the BU guilty on 4 out of 5 counts.


4.
As pointed out before, all these accusations are untrue and founded on suspisiouns with no hard evidence.

Quoting Zach Eli "Sierra" Sykes
On the basis of such decision, the ODF War Council has no choice but to declare war and engage this enemy with both extreme prejudice and intent to destroy.


A war based on nothing will have a negative effect on your populations opinion, not even speaking about the other countries surrounding yours.


Quoting Zach Eli "Sierra" Sykes
We also demand an unconditional surrender from the BU before that colony the NCA so graciously gave you changes hands once again.


If you violate the treaty you won't get your land. That was the deal, stick with it.


Also next time I strongly advice you to form a INDEPENDENT committee to research stuff like stealing technology. You're absolutely not creditworthy when you do the so called research without acces to my model , and when you have something to gain out of the outcome of the tribunal. Just my 2 cents

Too late, the ODF War council has already decided that you need to be dealt with.
All the nations around me agree that you need to be handled.
My population is fed up with listening to you. Time to put your tanks where your mouth is because I am taking back my land by whatever means necesary.
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| June 18, 2013, 10:30 am
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The TNS Ironclad now officialy floats. You can take a tour here http://mocpages.com/moc.php/362674
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| June 18, 2013, 11:16 am
Quoting Matthew Sylvan
The TNS Ironclad now officialy floats. You can take a tour here http://mocpages.com/moc.php/362674

The NCA has reviewed the TNS Ironclad and is floored. IT is an amazing and highly detailed ship. Good job Sylvan.
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| June 18, 2013, 11:23 am
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Quoting Zach Eli "Sierra" Sykes
The NCA has reviewed the TNS Ironclad and is floored. IT is an amazing and highly detailed ship. Good job Sylvan.

In fact it was based off that ship, the original minifig scale. This micro-scale has several different parts but the silhoutte remained the same.
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| June 18, 2013, 11:57 am
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Quoting Zach Eli "Sierra" Sykes
4 ramjets = yes it can.
4 ramjets +90 tons of bombs = ~mach 4 with afterburners fireballed.

You can't just slap on ramjets to any airframe you want and call or hypersonic, this is a truly terrible shape for hypersonic flight and would most certainly break up midflight assuming it even could reach those speeds in the first place. BTW, Matthew is correct about not being able to even use the ramjets since ramjets do not work at a standstill or low speeds.
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| June 18, 2013, 12:04 pm
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Quoting Zach Eli "Sierra" Sykes

If you violate the treaty you won't get your land. That was the deal, stick with it.


Also next time I strongly advice you to form a INDEPENDENT committee to research stuff like stealing technology. You're absolutely not creditworthy when you do the so called research without acces to my model , and when you have something to gain out of the outcome of the tribunal. Just my 2 cents

Too late, the ODF War council has already decided that you need to be dealt with.
All the nations around me agree that you need to be handled.
My population is fed up with listening to you. Time to put your tanks where your mouth is because I am taking back my land by whatever means necesary.

It is clear to the Conglomerate that a fair trial was never the goal in the first place, as those judging this case all had clear anti-BU bias and multiple of the ODF's accusations are easily proven false. It is more clear than ever that the ODF is a rogue power.
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| June 18, 2013, 12:13 pm
Quoting Matthew McCall
Too late, the ODF War council has already decided that you need to be dealt with.
All the nations around me agree that you need to be handled.
My population is fed up with listening to you. Time to put your tanks where your mouth is because I am taking back my land by whatever means necesary.

It is clear to the Conglomerate that a fair trial was never the goal in the first place, as those judging this case all had clear anti-BU bias and multiple of the ODF's accusations are easily proven false. It is more clear than ever that the ODF is a rogue power.

You're right. A fair trial was ruled out as the BU elected to ignore the NCA entirely and thus we did not bother to waste our time offering them the ability to represent themselves since they would't have even graced us with an answer.

The BU cannot prove that they did not violate teh armistice terms as we said sever ALL TIES with Gaufran. They did have contact which does violate such terms. Either way, the BU acts higher and mightier than they are and we intend to prove that by hammering them hard enough to make their head spin.

The ODF takes no s--- from anyone, especially people who are self-proclaimed powers.
the EFCF and the AUDF harbor no hatred against the BU. I on the other hand, am the biased one and was not judging. I presented what evidence I had gathered.
The Conglomerate will understand this sooner or later and if they don't that will be their mistake.
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| June 18, 2013, 12:42 pm
Quoting Matthew McCall
You can't just slap on ramjets to any airframe you want and call or hypersonic, this is a truly terrible shape for hypersonic flight and would most certainly break up midflight assuming it even could reach those speeds in the first place. BTW, Matthew is correct about not being able to even use the ramjets since ramjets do not work at a standstill or low speeds.

1. There are ways to make ramjets work as clearly I know more about them than you do because with some auxiliary systems, they can generate thrust at 0 speed.
2. I will decide what my aircraft can do, not you. Unless you are CMing my combat, you have absolutely zero right to continue this argument.
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| June 18, 2013, 12:45 pm
The Absolute has announced preparations for war. He is expected to release 5 new warships later this week and various new ships for strategic purposes. Also Project Leviathan is set to be relaunched (or continued) with better ships dedicated for taking on sizable fleets. The Leviathan super sub is set to be refitted and upgraded with newer weapons and capabilities. The new Leviathan II will be a warship with similar tactics. She is set to be lied down for construction. Also in preparation for possible war, we are developing battlesuits under Project Hercules for extreme offensives. Details will follow later. Also we are developing miniature antimatter missiles and anti material rockets for use against the strongest tanks made by our enemies. We also call upon the ODF and ask permission to make miniature versions of the NCA Python dubbed Black Mamba. Also the Absolute wishes to give the NCA full production rights of the proposed UAV as a gift. That is all for today.

-Hail Absolute!
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| June 18, 2013, 1:00 pm
Quoting TheWolfBrigade 01
The Absolute has announced preparations for war. He is expected to release 5 new warships later this week and various new ships for strategic purposes. Also Project Leviathan is set to be relaunched (or continued) with better ships dedicated for taking on sizable fleets. The Leviathan super sub is set to be refitted and upgraded with newer weapons and capabilities. The new Leviathan II will be a warship with similar tactics. She is set to be lied down for construction. Also in preparation for possible war, we are developing battlesuits under Project Hercules for extreme offensives. Details will follow later. Also we are developing miniature antimatter missiles and anti material rockets for use against the strongest tanks made by our enemies. We also call upon the ODF and ask permission to make miniature versions of the NCA Python dubbed Black Mamba. Also the Absolute wishes to give the NCA full production rights of the proposed UAV as a gift. That is all for today.

-Hail Absolute!

Either you are with us all the way, or stand clear of the carnage. The ODF has already issued a formal declaration of war. If you want to talk like that, come take a seat at the ODF war council. We are on skype right now.
sierrasykes7
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| June 18, 2013, 1:06 pm
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Quoting Zach Eli "Sierra" Sykes
1. There are ways to make ramjets work as clearly I know more about them than you do because with some auxiliary systems, they can generate thrust at 0 speed.
2. I will decide what my aircraft can do, not you. Unless you are CMing my combat, you have absolutely zero right to continue this argument.

1. Feel free to elaborate on what these "auxiliary systems" are, ramjets function due to the aircraft traveling through the air.
2. I'm an admin, and as of the rules admins are allowed to rule on creations.
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| June 18, 2013, 1:13 pm
Quoting Matthew McCall
1. Feel free to elaborate on what these "auxiliary systems" are, ramjets function due to the aircraft traveling through the air.
2. I'm an admin, and as of the rules admins are allowed to rule on creations.

You've made your opinions on it known. I will not disclose ANY further details regarding the aircraft untill its formal unveiling that will be later this week when they are finished being painted.
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| June 18, 2013, 1:15 pm
I'm voting to have some people ^ here checked by a committee wether or not they've understood the rules of this group.
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| June 18, 2013, 1:20 pm
Quoting Brickviller -
I'm voting to have some people ^ here checked by a committee wether or not they've understood the rules of this group.

1) The Manta technically hasnt entered production. untill it does, its still officially classfied.
2) You are fixing to lose what I gave you and then get removed from the map. What do you care?
3) i respect admins but only if they dont start being j-rks about it.
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| June 18, 2013, 1:23 pm
Quoting Zach Eli "Sierra" Sykes
Either you are with us all the way, or stand clear of the carnage. The ODF has already issued a formal declaration of war. If you want to talk like that, come take a seat at the ODF war council. We are on skype right now.
sierrasykes7


(I can use FB or Email. I just tried it and it won't let me.)

The Absolute remains in good standing with the ODF all the way. However we can also supply you with weapons and other goods.
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| June 18, 2013, 1:24 pm
Quoting Zach Eli "Sierra" Sykes
1) The Manta technically hasnt entered production. untill it does, its still officially classfied.
2) You are fixing to lose what I gave you and then get removed from the map. What do you care?
3) i respect admins but only if they dont start being j-rks about it.

1. I have to wait until it's released to judge that
2. I care about the wellbeing of this group
3. You don't respect the admins if they're j-rks. But that's the role of being an admin..
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| June 18, 2013, 1:34 pm
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Gaufran is officially declaring war on the NCA. This may. Or may not involve the rest of the ODF, if they realise they are on a sinking ship.
We are asking that Gaufran, the Lockheart Corporation, Brickville union, Tongoria, and the Congolmorate to stand together, as United Powers of New Babylon, and temporarily put alliances aside to rid the world of our mutual enemy.
This has long been coming.
This is the NCA's final warning.
This is the rest of the ODF's last chance to leave the sinking shp that is the NCA.

We will accept no surrender.

May the BU, LC, Tongoria, and Conglomorate post their official declarations now, and end this.
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| June 18, 2013, 1:35 pm
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Quoting Brickviller -
I'm voting to have some people ^ here checked by a committee wether or not they've understood the rules of this group.

I do follow the rules and I do respect the Mods and Admins and you should at least remember who is your neighbor here.
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| June 18, 2013, 1:49 pm
Union officially declares war against the NCA. If ODF members join in, the Union will declare war on them as well.
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| June 18, 2013, 1:55 pm
Quoting jack kenyon
Gaufran is officially declaring war on the NCA. This may. Or may not involve the rest of the ODF, if they realise they are on a sinking ship.
We are asking that Gaufran, the Lockheart Corporation, Brickville union, Tongoria, and the Congolmorate to stand together, as United Powers of New Babylon, and temporarily put alliances aside to rid the world of our mutual enemy.
This has long been coming.
This is the NCA's final warning.
This is the rest of the ODF's last chance to leave the sinking shp that is the NCA.

We will accept no surrender.

May the BU, LC, Tongoria, and Conglomorate post their official declarations now, and end this.

The ODF has offered me full political support when I issue this statement to gaufran: P-SS OFF!
They have opted to let me handle this one on my own simply because they know how much fury I will bring down on my enemies for this.
The ODF stands by me and has allowed me the privilege of stomping out this nuisance once and for all myself. If Gaufran comes at me, they will not get the vengeance they seek, but rather a face full of cannon fire.
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| June 18, 2013, 2:01 pm
Quoting jack kenyon
Gaufran is officially declaring war on the NCA. This may. Or may not involve the rest of the ODF, if they realise they are on a sinking ship.
We are asking that Gaufran, the Lockheart Corporation, Brickville union, Tongoria, and the Congolmorate to stand together, as United Powers of New Babylon, and temporarily put alliances aside to rid the world of our mutual enemy.
This has long been coming.
This is the NCA's final warning.
This is the rest of the ODF's last chance to leave the sinking shp that is the NCA.

We will accept no surrender.

May the BU, LC, Tongoria, and Conglomorate post their official declarations now, and end this.


And so the New Babylonian World War was initiated...

-BREAKING ANNOUNCEMENT-

The Absolute Socialist Empire has declared that the ODF should up build the defensive and stand their grounds against this hostile act from this so called "United Power" and gather all of any resource and form a United Front composing of the ODF and the ASE. This will be known as the United Oceanic Federation Front of New Babylon and should we agree, we will triumph over our enemies!

-HAIL THE ALLIANCE!!!

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| June 18, 2013, 2:06 pm
Quoting TheWolfBrigade 01

And so the New Babylonian World War was initiated...

-BREAKING ANNOUNCEMENT-

The Absolute Socialist Empire has declared that the ODF should up build the defensive and stand their grounds against this hostile act from this so called "United Power" and gather all of any resource and form a United Front composing of the ODF and the ASE. This will be known as the United Oceanic Federation Front of New Babylon and should we agree, we will triumph over our enemies!

-HAIL THE ALLIANCE!!!

The ASE will not be involved in this. The ODF has renounced its declaration of war against the BU temporarily. That vendetta will be settled later. The ODF has also given me the sole honor of eliminating this threat. I will handle it.
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| June 18, 2013, 2:08 pm
Quoting Zach Eli "Sierra" Sykes
The ODF has offered me full political support when I issue this statement to gaufran: P-SS OFF!
They have opted to let me handle this one on my own simply because they know how much fury I will bring down on my enemies for this.
The ODF stands by me and has allowed me the privilege of stomping out this nuisance once and for all myself. If Gaufran comes at me, they will not get the vengeance they seek, but rather a face full of cannon fire.


I agree with this, but should anything happen you have my disposal of action. I will just simply watch what happens and if it get's any serious then I will take action myself.
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| June 18, 2013, 2:13 pm
Quoting TheWolfBrigade 01

I agree with this, but should anything happen you have my disposal of action. I will just simply watch what happens and if it get's any serious then I will take action myself.

Dont take action yourself. I will be able to generate enough carnage by myself.
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| June 18, 2013, 2:15 pm
Quoting Zach Eli "Sierra" Sykes
The ASE will not be involved in this. The ODF has renounced its declaration of war against the BU temporarily. That vendetta will be settled later. The ODF has also given me the sole honor of eliminating this threat. I will handle it.


Alright then. If anything goes wrong you have my support. Also I am set to showcase the Black Mamba and should you allow production since this is based on your python design you can have full production rights as a gift. I will supply you any needs for warfare. Also since half of the world powers are willing to crush you are you sure you can take them all by one? I have your full respect of your choices you make. Meanwhile the Absolute will commence it's own military projects and if you need us we will be there.

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| June 18, 2013, 2:20 pm
Quoting TheWolfBrigade 01

Alright then. If anything goes wrong you have my support. Also I am set to showcase the Black Mamba and should you allow production since this is based on your python design you can have full production rights as a gift. I will supply you any needs for warfare. Also since half of the world powers are willing to crush you are you sure you can take them all by one? I have your full respect of your choices you make. Meanwhile the Absolute will commence it's own military projects and if you need us we will be there.

check your email, disregard the first one.
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| June 18, 2013, 2:26 pm
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Quoting jack kenyon
Gaufran is officially declaring war on the NCA. This may. Or may not involve the rest of the ODF, if they realise they are on a sinking ship.
We are asking that Gaufran, the Lockheart Corporation, Brickville union, Tongoria, and the Congolmorate to stand together, as United Powers of New Babylon, and temporarily put alliances aside to rid the world of our mutual enemy.
This has long been coming.
This is the NCA's final warning.
This is the rest of the ODF's last chance to leave the sinking shp that is the NCA.

We will accept no surrender.

May the BU, LC, Tongoria, and Conglomorate post their official declarations now, and end this.

What did I do to you Jack?????

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| June 18, 2013, 2:31 pm
Quoting Christian Bish
What did I do to you Jack?????

He is being typical Kenyon, who hides behind his dreadnoughts and thinks he can tell others what to do.
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| June 18, 2013, 2:35 pm
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Quoting Christian Bish
What did I do to you Jack?????

He's not declaring war on you, but simply requesting that you stay out of the fight between him and the NCA.
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| June 18, 2013, 2:56 pm
Quoting Christian Bish
What did I do to you Jack?????


Apparently he just does not give a good g0d dam about anyone. At least he's giving a head up but we will carry on and if ever gets to serious then we will take action.

I may not be in this war but I warn you Gaufran that if you EVER set foot in my territory even a speck of shrapnel flying around across my boarder then I will toss you everything in my arsenal and your little footsoldiers into dust. That's a promise I will keep. But I'll take the NCA's word for it and let him do the dirty work. Simple as that.

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| June 18, 2013, 2:57 pm
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This is me being "typical Kenyon" this is me declaring what the united powers have already agreed on. The NCA has become too big too fast, and is both an irritation and a threat to us all. The congolmorate has asked us to attack our mutual enemy alongside them, as the CFF had already made plans to remove the NCA from the world once and for all.
I am not hiding behind my dreadnoughts, I am not hiding. I am standing up to you, and I am not alone. The Lockheart corporation, congolmorate, Tongoria, and the BU will fight along side me.
See you on the battlegrold zach.
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| June 18, 2013, 4:45 pm
Quoting jack kenyon
This is me being "typical Kenyon" this is me declaring what the united powers have already agreed on. The NCA has become too big too fast, and is both an irritation and a threat to us all. The congolmorate has asked us to attack our mutual enemy alongside them, as the CFF had already made plans to remove the NCA from the world once and for all.
I am not hiding behind my dreadnoughts, I am not hiding. I am standing up to you, and I am not alone. The Lockheart corporation, congolmorate, Tongoria, and the BU will fight along side me.
See you on the battlegrold zach.

1 I havent expanded at all, but yes, I will surpass you quite soon if I keep going the way I am.
2 So far only Brick has agreed to fight with you and that certainly will fail you. You don't know it yet, but you've already lost.

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| June 18, 2013, 4:47 pm
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Quoting Zach Eli "Sierra" Sykes
1 I havent expanded at all, but yes, I will surpass you quite soon if I keep going the way I am.
2 So far only Brick has agreed to fight with you and that certainly will fail you. You don't know it yet, but you've already lost.

Actually, up until yesterday, Matthew and I weren't really that interested in this plan, but due to your recent threats and cancelled invasion we have changed our oppinions and will join the coalition. Keep in mind the 3 on 1 rule applies so we can't attack you directly (excpet maybe provide some war material here and there), but if your allies join in we can act in a much more direct manner.
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| June 18, 2013, 6:18 pm
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Convo locked, please take it to INN8
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| June 18, 2013, 6:19 pm
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