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| October 11, 2013, 10:55 am
The Oceanic Military is set to showcase it's first batch of humanoid drones and some new unmanned suits.
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| October 11, 2013, 12:06 pm
Quoting Matthew McCall
I think I'm up for it.


I'm sure you are...XD

Only because you would have Sykes lose to many units against Bozarth.
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| October 11, 2013, 4:46 pm
Quoting TheWolfBrigade 01

I'm sure you are...XD

Only because you would have Sykes lose to many units against Bozarth.

The only reason that would happen is that I am fighting him,not stomping him. If I wanted to do the latter, I could, but then war would be over in a few weeks and that probably wouldn't be the best for public opinion (not that I really care).
Either way, I'm mildly disappointing world war fizzled out. That would have been fun to fight in.
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| October 11, 2013, 8:52 pm
Quoting Zach Eli "Sierra" Sykes
The only reason that would happen is that I am fighting him,not stomping him. If I wanted to do the latter, I could, but then war would be over in a few weeks and that probably wouldn't be the best for public opinion (not that I really care).
Either way, I'm mildly disappointing world war fizzled out. That would have been fun to fight in.


There's always a next Christmas...
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| October 11, 2013, 9:01 pm
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Quoting TheWolfBrigade 01

I'm sure you are...XD

Only because you would have Sykes lose to many units against Bozarth.

You're wrong, and it's insulting I would do something so unethical.
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| October 11, 2013, 11:26 pm
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Quoting Zach Eli "Sierra" Sykes
The only reason that would happen is that I am fighting him,not stomping him. If I wanted to do the latter, I could, but then war would be over in a few weeks and that probably wouldn't be the best for public opinion (not that I really care).
Either way, I'm mildly disappointing world war fizzled out. That would have been fun to fight in.

It's not my fault it fizzled out, it's just that pretty much everyone in our short lives alliance sort of bad all sorts of different plans and such which we didn't exactly all agree with, and then they all went AWOL.
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| October 11, 2013, 11:29 pm
Quoting Matthew McCall
You're wrong, and it's insulting I would do something so unethical.


I'm just pulling your tail nothing serious...

*Yawn*

This place seems to be ending a few months early than expected.
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| October 12, 2013, 12:09 am
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Quoting TheWolfBrigade 01

I'm just pulling your tail nothing serious...

*Yawn*

This place seems to be ending a few months early than expected.

Oh XD

Anyway, yeah, I no longer build designs for this group as I want to get a head start on the Cold War era.
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| October 12, 2013, 12:46 am
Quoting Matthew McCall
Oh XD

Anyway, yeah, I no longer build designs for this group as I want to get a head start on the Cold War era.


Meet you on the field then ;)

As of now I will start using...Well Later time I will have some Cold War units for D&C III.
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| October 12, 2013, 1:12 am
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The Atlantic navy has begun refitting Challenger class ships with new MK XVI A.L.D.S emitters.
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| October 12, 2013, 3:29 am
Quoting Matthew McCall
Oh XD

Anyway, yeah, I no longer build designs for this group as I want to get a head start on the Cold War era.

Same Here, I'm not really going to be that active unless I am called apon, so don't expect updates everyday etc.
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| October 12, 2013, 4:06 pm
After several months of development, the UTA has released the B-5 Enigma bomber. As far as I know, it has the largest bomb load of any bomber in D&C II (330), all in internal bays.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/99412649@N02/sets/72157635897202133/

Sorry I haven't been around for a couple weeks, I've been away and had a lot of home work to do.
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| October 14, 2013, 6:16 pm
The shipyards of 222 are reporting the construction of a new giant floating fortress but seeks joint-construction from the Ares Republic. Reason is because they propose that they attempt to build a new Defiance styled ship. Details will follow afterwards.

*Breaks character*

Sykes if you are interested, let's go joint-forces and get down on a new super carrier that's almost like yours but much bigger and more structured. Why? Because I need a good challenge and also to maintain better navy for the next round of D&C II. Again it's like yours but bigger and it will have more cargo capacity.

Plus it will have a new railgun I'm working on and if you hep me you will have a new toy to show off in all seas of New Babylon.
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| October 15, 2013, 12:19 pm
Jack:
Manta Bomber, 360.
Wolf:
Shoot me what you have. You should still have my email.
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| October 15, 2013, 3:16 pm
http://www.mocpages.com/moc.php/372391

My First D&CIII creation, Constructive Criticism welcome.
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| October 15, 2013, 4:35 pm
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Quoting Broken Bricks
http://www.mocpages.com/moc.php/372391

My First D&CIII creation, Constructive Criticism welcome.

While a decent enough looking design, I think it's too small, and this vehicle is also a bit too advanced for the start of the game.
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| October 16, 2013, 10:19 am
Quoting Broken Bricks
http://www.mocpages.com/moc.php/372391

My First D&CIII creation, Constructive Criticism welcome.


Good for either the 80s and 90s. Try to build a more "retro" vehicle. Think of the peculator coffee machines and old milkshake glass. Also I'm set to use World War era vehicles with upgrades. I might use an upgraded Tiger I, II and a III. A new Panzer tank (Panzer V) will be made for it and I will use a B-29 styled bomber.
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| October 16, 2013, 12:06 pm
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Quoting TheWolfBrigade 01

Good for either the 80s and 90s. Try to build a more "retro" vehicle. Think of the peculator coffee machines and old milkshake glass. Also I'm set to use World War era vehicles with upgrades. I might use an upgraded Tiger I, II and a III. A new Panzer tank (Panzer V) will be made for it and I will use a B-29 styled bomber.

WW2 stuff will be viable at the beginning of the game, you can'expect me to be using some of it myself (P-51 for example), but anytime past the 50's and I think it should be replaced.
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| October 16, 2013, 3:15 pm
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Quoting Matthew McCall
WW2 stuff will be viable at the beginning of the game, you can'expect me to be using some of it myself (P-51 for example), but anytime past the 50's and I think it should be replaced.

Erm, what about planes lole the skyraider? Also, tank tech changed little frpm the end of the war. The Is 3 was designed during the war, as well as the centurian, and the T55. Ipgrades like IR vision and better shaping from WWII experience, as well as basic gun control systems are the only major changes.
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| October 16, 2013, 5:14 pm
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Quoting jack kenyon
Erm, what about planes lole the skyraider? Also, tank tech changed little frpm the end of the war. The Is 3 was designed during the war, as well as the centurian, and the T55. Upgrades like IR vision and better shaping from WWII experience, as well as basic gun control systems are the only major changes.

OK, so the skyraider is an exception. XD

Anyway, the gap between the T-55 and the Tiger 2, while fairly equal firepower and armor, the T- 55 has some major advantages such as better speed, manuevability, and actually being mechanically reliable. It's fine to use Tigers in the 50's, although they won't be the "super tanks" they were in the 40's.
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| October 16, 2013, 6:24 pm
Quoting Matthew McCall
OK, so the skyraider is an exception. XD

Anyway, the gap between the T-55 and the Tiger 2, while fairly equal firepower and armor, the T- 55 has some major advantages such as better speed, manuevability, and actually being mechanically reliable. It's fine to use Tigers in the 50's, although they won't be the "super tanks" they were in the 40's.


T-55 would be great to have, but since I'm going to be German based (Leopard 1 will be used of course) I will use Tiger tanks mainly as a "surplus" production. And even many third world nations today use outdated equipment.

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| October 16, 2013, 9:29 pm
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Quoting TheWolfBrigade 01

T-55 would be great to have, but since I'm going to be German based (Leopard 1 will be used of course) I will use Tiger tanks mainly as a "surplus" production. And even many third world nations today use outdated equipment.

Oh yes, speaking of surplus, it think it would be neat if there was a surplus category for production, which would give the player several weeks of production automatically, but they would be unable to produce more. Of course, it would only apply to somewhat outdated material.
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| October 17, 2013, 12:18 am
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If I get the time, I will work on my first lot of vehicles for the Neo British empire. The first two will be tanks, one based off of the Centurian, the other based off of the Conquerer, but more reliable! I will build them in the WOT style for British tanks, light tan with the white, red, white stripes on the turrets. Rule Britania! My first aircraft will likely be ground attack as well, as my biggest problem in this group was that I never got round to making close sport craft. I have drawings for a twin seat, swing wing stealth strike fighter called the wraith, but it is a little late I think! I am also struggling to make progress on my VTOL gunship due to parts and dithering over how to make the landing gear.
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| October 17, 2013, 12:59 pm
The Neo German Empire/Neo-Germanic Trading Company will initially use the Leopard 1 then the Leopard 2, For limited surplus we will use alot of World War II vehicles as a supplement and for other nations to produce under a license fee.

We will mainly be a corporate element and invest ONLY to those that bring greater profits. I have some aircraft including some American based vehicles (M1-Greyhound as the Company's service vehicle) and the Fairchild Republic A-10 Thunderbolt II as a product for other nations to make.

Hmm...I may have to build a fictional strategic bomber and some fictional aircraft to use...
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| October 17, 2013, 1:27 pm
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Quoting TheWolfBrigade 01
The Neo German Empire/Neo-Germanic Trading Company will initially use the Leopard 1 then the Leopard 2, For limited surplus we will use alot of World War II vehicles as a supplement and for other nations to produce under a license fee.

We will mainly be a corporate element and invest ONLY to those that bring greater profits. I have some aircraft including some American based vehicles (M1-Greyhound as the Company's service vehicle) and the Fairchild Republic A-10 Thunderbolt II as a product for other nations to make.

Hmm...I may have to build a fictional strategic bomber and some fictional aircraft to use...

Keep in mind the Leopard 1 is 60's technology, so if we start in the 50's as planned to give ww2 tech it's brief ability to shine, you would have to wait a while to start producing them.
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| October 17, 2013, 3:28 pm
Quoting Matthew McCall
Keep in mind the Leopard 1 is 60's technology, so if we start in the 50's as planned to give ww2 tech it's brief ability to shine, you would have to wait a while to start producing them.


Tiger III will be used for 50s.
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| October 17, 2013, 7:15 pm
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Err... Wolf? Leopard I is late sixties. Leopard II is 1980s, and very advanced for it. The A10 is 70s. A 50s ground attack aircraft would be a skyraider or possibly an early jet like the Canberra.
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| October 18, 2013, 12:51 pm
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Conglomerate scientists have begun construction on a prototype quantum tunneling device. The purpose of this machine is currently classified.
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| October 18, 2013, 1:14 pm
Quoting jack kenyon
Err... Wolf? Leopard I is late sixties. Leopard II is 1980s, and very advanced for it. The A10 is 70s. A 50s ground attack aircraft would be a skyraider or possibly an early jet like the Canberra.


You think I don't KNOW THAT?!

I'm prepping for the 60s, 70s, and 80s!

50s I'm doing WWII vehicle upgrades and a Tiger III.
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| October 18, 2013, 1:29 pm
The Oceanic Empire is close to finish with it's war machine program. The Absolute Empire had failed to undertake innovative platforms and was immediately outcast with shame.

The Oceanic Counsel will from now on undertake leadership in full effect. The Absolute is no more than a shadow of failure and instead will use a Prime Minister to lead on.


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| October 18, 2013, 1:34 pm
A new flag is being made by the new party.

In news today an Absolute rebellion group threatened to overthrow the new empire, but immediately the rebellion was crumbled to ashes after the Oceanic Homeland Guard stormed their base and bombarded them with artillery fire and putting the T-125 main battle tank to the test against the threat. The results where satisfying, but afterwards the compound was obliterated by a V-X2 that instantly incinerated the base to ash and rubble and killing any surviving member.

Let this be a reminder to those who pledge their alliance to the failure of the "Absolute".


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| October 18, 2013, 1:53 pm
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Work is progressing nicely on the first prototype turret for the Ultra heavy tank. The turret frame, frontal armour plate, Mjolnir Mk 9 railgun and breach are all fitted, along with the comander's hatch and laser rangefinders. Turret basket, auto loading system and gunner's station are under construction. Armour on the turret is 1.5 metres at the front, 750mm at the sides, and 550mm at the rear. In testing, the 320mm railgun fired an advanced composite "smart" sabot round at over Mach 35 to a range of 900 Km, accurately hitting an obsolete Tyrant Tank with a margin of error in accuracy of 0.4 m. The target physically imploded around the point of impact, with the frontal plate melting, and the surviving metal buckling and twisting inwards by several metres. The Tyrant itself was shunted backwards almost twenty yards by the force of the blow. This test has proven this to be the most potent weapon ever mounted on a Tank.
Work is progressing at an enhanced rate, completion estimates are not available though.

-out of character-
I am on holiday for two weeks now, and as well as studying, I want my last great creation finished before the group closes (or I am just too busy with D&C III creations to continue my current line of vehicles. I realised that I just want to build for fun really, and slugging away on vehicles I need, but don't really want to waste my time on was sapping my morale. Then I found the incomplete turret lying around, and figured, what the he11? I still haven't settled on a name because Devastator seemed too generic. WhenI built the Tyrant, it took me ages to figure the name. Anyway, got to go for now. I might post a teaser of it when the turret is done, so look forwards to that. It has a full interior and everything. Jack out-
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| October 19, 2013, 6:25 am
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development of the AUDFs new MBT has been delayed due to mechanical problems with the turret system.
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| October 19, 2013, 9:04 am
AIRSTRIP 1:

The Department of Aviation is developing a series of new "flying wing" airships that will serve as the flagship of our nation. Details will follow.
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| October 19, 2013, 12:51 pm
AIRSTRIP 1:

In addition to the flying wing airships, a new series of hovercraft will be entering future production.

Also we have announced a new dropship to be in showcasing soon.
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| October 20, 2013, 10:10 pm
As of tomorrow, the Oceanic Empire will roll out some of our new units and we will establish a trade on ITF to our allies.

Also Komodo Industrial has developed a new VTOL drop ship and will be set to showcase.

New naval units are also set to be released once we have all in account and ready to fight for our cause!
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| October 21, 2013, 11:46 pm
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Progress continues on our Quantum Tunneling Device with small scale testing of our most recent prototype yielding promising results. Further research on this technology has been approved by the Board of CEOs. The purpose and technology behind the QTD remains classified.
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| October 22, 2013, 1:02 am
The Oceanic Empire is initiating it's own Tunneling device that will be built after one of our drillers that help build the cities.

In news today the Oceanic Counsel is approving a new series of transport airships that will carry land units for invasions.

A new thermobaric bomb is said to be in development carrying almost 1.8 kilotons of explosives and will be used against cities if anyone dares cross our reign. The bombs are going to be carried by the B-99 Thunderbird.

Pharaohs will be in full production and will see some marketing for allies to buy along with our future stock category.

The Oceanic Trading Federation will also give anyone license for the K-12 mine resistant vehicle for 3 weeks if anyone is willing to accept.

Airstrip 1 will see more airships in full production. The B-99 Thunderbird is planned to be topped at 50 ships while the B-55 will see about 140 as proposed.

The Oceanic Navy is still awaiting it's new order of vessels, but the shipyard of 222 is finalizing efforts to release a new destroyer.

A new stratofortress airship is still awaiting development but no further details will be released.
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| October 22, 2013, 1:23 am
Project Sunday has been initiated. Aims to build a 500,000lbs thermobaric bomb to be used against reinforced cities in future wars.
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| October 23, 2013, 5:11 pm
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Quoting TheWolfBrigade 01
Project Sunday has been initiated. Aims to build a 500,000lbs thermobaric bomb to be used against reinforced cities in future wars.

The conglomerate approves of this mind-bogglingly inefficient weapon. While your country works on bombs with 25 times the weight of a MOAB, we'll stick with our 1,000 lb, 2 Kiloton bombs.
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| October 24, 2013, 12:29 am
Quoting Matthew McCall
The conglomerate approves of this mind-bogglingly inefficient weapon. While your country works on bombs with 25 times the weight of a MOAB, we'll stick with our 1,000 lb, 2 Kiloton bombs.


(You do realize that 2 kilotons is 4,000,000lbs sky high?)

Try my FOAB that's actually going to be about 90,000lbs.
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| October 24, 2013, 11:18 am
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Quoting TheWolfBrigade 01

(You do realize that 2 kilotons is 4,000,000lbs sky high?)

Try my FOAB that's actually going to be about 90,000lbs.

You misunderstand, when I say 1,000 lbs I'm talking about my bomb's weight, I used a comma to make this clear. Anyway, it appears I also misunderstood and thought you were also talking about weight instead of yield. However, thermobaric bombs are still highly inefficient for their yield to weight/size ratio relative to just using a low yield antimatter bomb.
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| October 24, 2013, 1:24 pm
Quoting Matthew McCall
You misunderstand, when I say 1,000 lbs I'm talking about my bomb's weight, I used a comma to make this clear. Anyway, it appears I also misunderstood and thought you were also talking about weight instead of yield. However, thermobaric bombs are still highly inefficient for their yield to weight/size ratio relative to just using a low yield antimatter bomb.


Why would I have an ultra heavy chunk of metal to only carry an explosive?

Could not even use antimatter because only 1 grain would almost match Tsar Bomba which is way off this game's limit.

Hmm. Any other non-nuclear explosive material exist? (Besides antimatter).
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| October 24, 2013, 2:58 pm
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Quoting TheWolfBrigade 01

Why would I have an ultra heavy chunk of metal to only carry an explosive?

Could not even use antimatter because only 1 grain would almost match Tsar Bomba which is way off this game's limit.

Hmm. Any other non-nuclear explosive material exist? (Besides antimatter).

First off, it's grams, not grains. ;)

Anyway, it actually turns out that it's theoretically possible to make low-yield antimatter bombs, one proposed bomb would only have a yield of roughly one kiloton.
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| October 24, 2013, 3:27 pm
Quoting Matthew McCall
First off, it's grams, not grains. ;)

Anyway, it actually turns out that it's theoretically possible to make low-yield antimatter bombs, one proposed bomb would only have a yield of roughly one kiloton.


For some reason auto correction changed from "gram" to "grain".

#2: Hmm...(Researches for non nuclear tactical WMD use for antimatter) So...How does one tone down it's yield and somehow miniaturize it's power?
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| October 24, 2013, 3:33 pm
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Quoting TheWolfBrigade 01

For some reason auto correction changed from "gram" to "grain".

#2: Hmm...(Researches for non nuclear tactical WMD use for antimatter) So...How does one tone down it's yield and somehow miniaturize it's power?

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antimatter-catalyzed_nuclear_pulse_propulsion

It's very similar to a nuke but technically slightly different. While the Wikipedia article has a focus on Orion Drive applications, there's no reason it couldn't be used as a bomb.
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| October 24, 2013, 6:10 pm
*Reevaluates and rearms antimatter warheads*


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| October 24, 2013, 8:45 pm
The Oceanic Empire to develop their own super tank based on the old Russian Federation's Armata".

Tongorian Union will not be alone to build Soviet/Russian pattern tanks as noted by our Pharaoh tanks.

We are also in the making of a missile able to carry a 500,000lbs yield warhead.
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| October 26, 2013, 1:39 am
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Quoting TheWolfBrigade 01
The Oceanic Empire to develop their own super tank.

We gaurentee that when you set eyes upon the first Gaufranian super heavy shock tanks, you will not feel so safe behind your own. The work will quake under the repulsers of our mighty vehicles! Hail Gaufrania!

Construction update: the hull so under construction, with all available dark grey parts collected together ready for use on he build. Part shortages are to be expected, but no matter what, this vehicle will be finished before January first, and I intend to see them in battle. Despite their enormous size, being a hover vehicle, they are still fast and highly manouverable, as well as long range cannon, they have a powerful anti dreadnought laser, smaller anti air lasers, missiles, cannons, anti infantry weapons, and an all round hard kill system. They also have batteries of long range missiles.

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| October 26, 2013, 10:07 am
Quoting jack kenyon
We gaurentee that when you set eyes upon the first Gaufranian super heavy shock tanks, you will not feel so safe behind your own. The work will quake under the repulsers of our mighty vehicles! Hail Gaufrania!

Construction update: the hull so under construction, with all available dark grey parts collected together ready for use on he build. Part shortages are to be expected, but no matter what, this vehicle will be finished before January first, and I intend to see them in battle. Despite their enormous size, being a hover vehicle, they are still fast and highly manouverable, as well as long range cannon, they have a powerful anti dreadnought laser, smaller anti air lasers, missiles, cannons, anti infantry weapons, and an all round hard kill system. They also have batteries of long range missiles.


Assuming if it's a hover vehicle it will lack productivity compared to tracked vehicles. At least I plan on using an electromagnetic coilgun on mine.

EDIT: I have no reason to fear it. As your air dreadnoughts would have failed to penetrate and successfully take over my cities. With my new pack, I shall have no reason to back down to any nation.
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| October 26, 2013, 12:01 pm
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Quoting TheWolfBrigade 01
Quoting jack kenyon
We gaurentee that when you set eyes upon the first Gaufranian super heavy shock tanks, you will not feel so safe behind your own. The work will quake under the repulsers of our mighty vehicles! Hail Gaufrania!

Construction update: the hull so under construction, with all available dark grey parts collected together ready for use on he build. Part shortages are to be expected, but no matter what, this vehicle will be finished before January first, and I intend to see them in battle. Despite their enormous size, being a hover vehicle, they are still fast and highly manouverable, as well as long range cannon, they have a powerful anti dreadnought laser, smaller anti air lasers, missiles, cannons, anti infantry weapons, and an all round hard kill system. They also have batteries of long range missiles.


Assuming if it's a hover vehicle it will lack productivity compared to tracked vehicles. At least I plan on using an electromagnetic coilgun on mine.

EDIT: I have no reason to fear it. As your air dreadnoughts would have failed to penetrate and successfully take over my cities. With my new pack, I shall have no reason to back down to any nation.

Derp. Tracked vehicles have to be relatively small or their mobility becomes dreadful. What I lack in numbers I make up for in quantity, and FYI, the main gun is the most powerful railgun in our arsenal, with incredible range power and accuracy.
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| October 27, 2013, 9:03 am
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Quoting jack kenyon
What I lack in numbers I make up for in quantity

I'll assume this is just a hilarious typo? XD
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| October 27, 2013, 10:55 am
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Quoting Matthew McCall
I'll assume this is just a hilarious typo? XD

I think he means "What I lack in quantity, I make up in quality"
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| October 27, 2013, 11:01 am
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EFCF in now referbishing several warship:
Golem-Class Super Carrier
Hammer-Class Missile Destroyer
Heleos-Class Heavy Cruiser
Archer-Class Missile Cruiser

As well as working on a new submarine the "Sea Dragon-Class Assault Command Submarine". More detail of these ship will come at a later time.
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| October 27, 2013, 12:31 pm
The Sherry light battle tank has received a new turret design and a new 155 self propelled artillery vehicle is finished.

Oceanic Scientists has recently discovered a meteor crash out west of the Driuna wastes. They think it may contain a special metal that can be used for new combat vehicles but so far no further reports have been made.

Possible plans to build a warp gate to venture back the the Delta Quadrant are in talks in the Oceanic Counsel. A renewal effort to open a space exploration program using old blueprints and data from Earth science are being reviewed and if spaceships can be used with new technology to travel faster-than-light speed will be explored. With a new spy satellite in the making, it is possible to use antimatter for space travel, but talks will continue throughout the week.
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| October 27, 2013, 1:24 pm
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Quoting Matthew McCall
I'll assume this is just a hilarious typo? XD

oh God! huge typo! XD
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| October 27, 2013, 2:59 pm
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after months of testing and development the AUDF begins production on the new Cerberus MBT
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| October 31, 2013, 12:51 pm
Quoting Matthew McCall
I'll assume this is just a hilarious typo? XD


I AM ERROR
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| October 31, 2013, 2:34 pm
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Quoting TheWolfBrigade 01

I AM ERROR

Zelda 2 reference. :)
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| October 31, 2013, 9:49 pm
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Teh nation of ciphra has released two artists renditions of upcoming vehicles.
http://www.mocpages.com/image_zoom.php?mocid=370630&id=/user_images/91053/1383350295m
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| November 1, 2013, 8:04 pm
Quoting Matthew McCall
Zelda 2 reference. :)


YOU ARE ERROR.

WE ARE ERROR.
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| November 1, 2013, 10:16 pm
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An unfortunate accident during a medium-scale testing of our prototype quantum tunneling device has resulted in an equivalent of a 3.7 kiloton explosion has totally destroyed the remote research facility where the testing took place. We will now be transferring the experimental technology to a new testing facility and hope to correct the sabilization issues we have been facing with the tunneling process. If all goes well, this technology should be operational by this December.
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| November 2, 2013, 1:45 pm
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Construction update.
Turret interior is done with the Gunner and comander sitting in the turret itself, and four wwapons officers in the huge turret basket (still very cramped and a real design challenge because I wanted them all to have room to access their stations) the weapons officers control all the secondary weapons and defences, leaving the main armament to the gunner. The driver sits in the hull front, with acces via crawl spaces around and through the turret basket, as he has no hatch due to being under the front of the battleship sized turret. Crew is now at 7, but may eeach 9 with the addition of a battlefield control centre. 10 with a deducated engineer or maintenance android. Capacity for ip to 12 elite infantry is alsp planned.
I am really excited about this ome. For some idea, check out brad edmundson's cerberus shock tank, my main inspiration. All for now

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| November 2, 2013, 1:58 pm
Development of a new unmanned stealth fighter is nearing completion. So far flight tests are going well.

The X-55 Nighthawk will be in limited production service due to some foreseeable upgrades into a 7.1 generation fighter that will be almost completely unmanned. The alleged "YX-77" has surfaced on the debate and the Department of Aviation has not yet released any further detail.
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| November 2, 2013, 3:36 pm
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Doing some sketches for a new Battleship called:
Castle-Class Super Battleship. Drew the Bridge area which has some weapons. Will draw the turrets on another sheet of paper. This ship may replace the Oranos-Class later on but the prototype will started after the plans are all laded out.

Is some one going to start a war or what, are we going to sit on our hand and look pretty. Some just do something, this world is getting boring.
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| November 2, 2013, 8:56 pm
Quoting Christian Bish
Doing some sketches for a new Battleship called:
Castle-Class Super Battleship. Drew the Bridge area which has some weapons. Will draw the turrets on another sheet of paper. This ship may replace the Oranos-Class later on but the prototype will started after the plans are all laded out.

Is some one going to start a war or what, are we going to sit on our hand and look pretty. Some just do something, this world is getting boring.


I've proposed that we should do non-casualty battles like a "vs mode" type that does not actually cost you your units or assets. Just roll out some units and challenge others.

McCall's up to it but I need to fins a Combat Moderator first.

It's more like a unit test to see how they can operate in official battles.
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| November 2, 2013, 9:19 pm
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Quoting TheWolfBrigade 01

I've proposed that we should do non-casualty battles like a "vs mode" type that does not actually cost you your units or assets. Just roll out some units and challenge others.

McCall's up to it but I need to fins a Combat Moderator first.

It's more like a unit test to see how they can operate in official battles.

Fine by me, I have a few ships with some new guns that I would like a to test out and I am in the middle of draw a sketch of the Castle-Class Super Battleship and it will have many unique functions like say torpedo hatches and it will be the first EFCF warship to have stealth capabilities even though it is a battleship.
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| November 2, 2013, 10:26 pm
Quoting Christian Bish
Fine by me, I have a few ships with some new guns that I would like a to test out and I am in the middle of draw a sketch of the Castle-Class Super Battleship and it will have many unique functions like say torpedo hatches and it will be the first EFCF warship to have stealth capabilities even though it is a battleship.


Maybe if the guns could be concealed...

Missiles would be more easy to conceal than turrets.

I have a new arsenal ship that's similar to the Hades but with a more Zimwalt styled tradition.

And I have an arsenal ship on the way too.

And I have a new unmanned jet that's dedicated to stay within the shadows.

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| November 3, 2013, 12:23 am
I cannot wait to showcase my new unmanned air superiority fighter. It will be compatible to Zach's Viper (Formerly the Python) and Navy's. It's like a miniaturized F-22.

I'm thinking of building one that mirrors the Sukhoi PAK FA.
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| November 3, 2013, 12:31 am
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The Tongorian Firearms Design Bureau started developing a new concept sidearm, the project is called FSA (Future SideArm) and the pistol itself is called Nautilus, due to its shape. Ammunition tests will come once the pistol is finished, but we know that it will fire smart explosive rounds.
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| November 3, 2013, 1:04 am
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Quoting TheWolfBrigade 01
http://mocpages.com/image_zoom.php?mocid=373429&id=/user_images/10484/13834530611

Here's a preview of my new stealth UAV.

Lol, you say it is stealth, but it has external weapons.
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| November 3, 2013, 9:03 am
Quoting jack kenyon
Lol, you say it is stealth, but it has external weapons.


Forgot about those...

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| November 3, 2013, 10:52 am
The Oceanic Empire to discontinue production of the Sherry. A new light tank is in the works.
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| November 5, 2013, 8:09 pm
Oceanic scientists have conducted a chemical weapons test. The agent within the weapon is classified, but it's likely similar to the effects of cyanide.

A new bio-weapon is also in testing.

LEAKED: Subjects in the test were prisoners on death-row and were tricked into signing phoney agreements in turn for "freedom". After exposure, the subjects had their skin incinerated, likely eaten by the bacteria that was sprayed on them. The bacteria is really rampant, and can cause dizziness, nausea, excessive coughing, and vomiting of blood and internal fluids. Effects took a mere 3 days to complete before subjects had lapsed into mere corpses.

ASE ARCHIVES: The Absolute party long ago had conducted testing of prisoners both male and female to undertake painful procedures to become the ultimate "super soldiers". A detail on the uncovered document will be revealed.
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| November 6, 2013, 1:51 pm
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Quoting TheWolfBrigade 01
LEAKED: Subjects in the test were prisoners on death-row and were tricked into signing phoney agreements in turn for "freedom". After exposure, the subjects had their skin incinerated, likely eaten by the bacteria that was sprayed on them. The bacteria is really rampant, and can cause dizziness, nausea, excessive coughing, and vomiting of blood and internal fluids. Effects took a mere 3 days to complete before subjects had lapsed into mere corpses.

Against such hazards, Tongorian soldiers' power armors provide perfect safety, as they are completely sealed from the outside.

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| November 6, 2013, 3:19 pm
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Quoting TheWolfBrigade 01
Oceanic scientists have conducted a chemical weapons test. The agent within the weapon is classified, but it's likely similar to the effects of cyanide.

A new bio-weapon is also in testing.

LEAKED: Subjects in the test were prisoners on death-row and were tricked into signing phoney agreements in turn for "freedom". After exposure, the subjects had their skin incinerated, likely eaten by the bacteria that was sprayed on them. The bacteria is really rampant, and can cause dizziness, nausea, excessive coughing, and vomiting of blood and internal fluids. Effects took a mere 3 days to complete before subjects had lapsed into mere corpses.

ASE ARCHIVES: The Absolute party long ago had conducted testing of prisoners both male and female to undertake painful procedures to become the ultimate "super soldiers". A detail on the uncovered document will be revealed.

Our soldiers are enhanced with bionic technology, and all civilians, and soldiers are equipped with NBC technology rendering them immune to chemical, viral, and radiological weapons,
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| November 6, 2013, 4:56 pm
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Quoting Matthew Sylvan
Quoting TheWolfBrigade 01
LEAKED: Subjects in the test were prisoners on death-row and were tricked into signing phoney agreements in turn for "freedom". After exposure, the subjects had their skin incinerated, likely eaten by the bacteria that was sprayed on them. The bacteria is really rampant, and can cause dizziness, nausea, excessive coughing, and vomiting of blood and internal fluids. Effects took a mere 3 days to complete before subjects had lapsed into mere corpses.

Against such hazards, Tongorian soldiers' power armors provide perfect safety, as they are completely sealed from the outside.

My soldiers also are fully NBC protected while wearing their combat uniforms, I don't think biological weapons like this are all that useful except agianst civilian populations.
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| November 6, 2013, 4:58 pm
Quoting Matthew McCall
My soldiers also are fully NBC protected while wearing their combat uniforms, I don't think biological weapons like this are all that useful except agianst civilian populations.


The Oceanic government has no practical use with germs against highly equipped bacterial resistant forces. Even our military has NBC and chemical/biological resistant equipment.

Nevertheless, The military uses it for testing and experimental purposes only.
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| November 6, 2013, 7:09 pm
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Project FSA is now done. All olders sidearms are now being replaced with the Nautilus.

http://flic.kr/p/hm3Bys

(I must say it looks really smexy:D)
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| November 7, 2013, 12:42 pm
Quoting Matthew Sylvan
Project FSA is now done. All olders sidearms are now being replaced with the Nautilus.

http://flic.kr/p/hm3Bys

(I must say it looks really smexy:D)


What squirt gun did you based that on? XD

Nice gun.
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| November 7, 2013, 2:28 pm
The Oceanic Military has cancelled it's light support tank project. instead, a Chariot IFV variant is going to be used for MBT fire support.
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| November 7, 2013, 4:36 pm
*Breaks character*
I have not updated my stats this week, but I will next week, thus doubling my rate.
*Breaks character

The Oceanic Military is still exploring a possible candidate for it's light battle tank program even though the former project was cancelled. A dedicated light combat system will be in development.

Upgrades to the B90 Thunderbird are underway, but details are yet to be released.
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| November 7, 2013, 8:16 pm
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If recent unconfirmed reports are to be believed, a large percentage of the Conglomerate's vehicle designers have been heavily busy designing various obsolete vehicles based off of old blueprints from 20th centuary Terra. It is unknown exactly what the purpose of this project is, but it is rumored that the completed/restored files are being collected and stored in one of the few remaining fully operational Class-3 AI overseers remaining in New Babalon. These ancient machines ran much of the day to day tasks on this planet during the initial colonization period.
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| November 7, 2013, 10:04 pm
The Oceanic Government has also been collecting ancient data from old world Terra. Designers of the Department of Ground Tactics and other companies like Komodo Industries have been using old 20th/21st century military data to build outdated but functional vehicles to keep our nation protected.

The Oceanic Government is also in talks to open future business with the Conglomerate since our current ally of the Ares Republic has not been heard from further contact. However, we have reason to fear that they may not be an active government but they still have our political backing.
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| November 7, 2013, 11:14 pm
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Multiple types of propeller driven aircraft have been sighted at an airfield near the AUDF's experimental weapons facility.
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| November 8, 2013, 4:48 am
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The AUDF is beginning the R&D stage for a new super heavy tank.
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| November 8, 2013, 8:48 am
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Quoting Navy Person
The AUDF is beginning the R&D stage for a new super heavy tank.

The Okhotnik peaks over the fence curiously.
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| November 8, 2013, 9:04 am
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Quoting Matthew Sylvan
The Okhotnik peaks over the fence curiously.

I'm pretty sure it sees this...
http://www.flickr.com/photos/navyperson/10742474186/
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| November 8, 2013, 9:37 am
The UTA has recently overcome some technological glitches and has begun work on several new projects:
-A potential update of a centuries old MBT for use as a "escort tank"
-A mech specifically desgined for anti-tank warfare
-A long over due upgrade to the small arms

*breaks character*
I've been gone a while since my computer was not working well and then LDD failed on me. I'd build real brick, but rainbow tanks are probably frowned upon here.

EDIT: Here's the tank BTW: http://www.flickr.com/photos/99412649@N02/10500865583/
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| November 8, 2013, 10:13 am
Quoting Navy Person
I'm pretty sure it sees this...
http://www.flickr.com/photos/navyperson/10742474186/


Reminds me of my old Elephant proto.

The Oceanic Military is conducting a major upgrade to the Super Pharaoh until a true replacement can be made.
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| November 8, 2013, 10:35 am
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The Union proudly says that the 20th Cyclops will be finished by this Sunday. Its brother, the Megalodon has financial problems (not enough time), but some of its modules (the twin cooling tower, 2 381mm railguns, a ventillation unit and a right arm) were mounted on a Cyclops chassis. Tests will occur in the close future and if the results are positive, it might solve the funding problems and get more support by the government.
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| November 8, 2013, 12:30 pm
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Quoting Jack K

-A mech specifically desgined for anti-tank warfare
Due to the AM4 Explorer's modular arm, it can fit a wide variety of weapons, the flechette cannon being the newest, which is perfect for anti-tank warfare. Also, it can fit a 100mm coilgun on each arm, but I prefer the flechette cannon's look.

Interested?;)

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| November 8, 2013, 12:35 pm
The Oceanic Military is conducting tests on a new mech that will rival the Cyclops.
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| November 8, 2013, 12:54 pm
Quoting Matthew Sylvan
Quoting Jack K

-A mech specifically desgined for anti-tank warfare
Due to the AM4 Explorer's modular arm, it can fit a wide variety of weapons, the flechette cannon being the newest, which is perfect for anti-tank warfare. Also, it can fit a 100mm coilgun on each arm, but I prefer the flechette cannon's look.

Interested?;)

If you are proposing a tech deal of some kind, the UTA would be very interested.
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| November 8, 2013, 1:35 pm
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Quoting Jack K
If you are proposing a tech deal of some kind, the UTA would be very interested.

We can discuss technological questions by e-mail: adjalpezt0@citromail.hu
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| November 8, 2013, 1:55 pm
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Quoting TheWolfBrigade 01
The Oceanic Military is conducting tests on a new mech that will rival the Cyclops.

My 2500 brick masterpiece? Good luck with that :)

Btw, the Megalodon will be slightly bigger and more blocky.
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| November 8, 2013, 1:58 pm
Quoting Matthew Sylvan
My 2500 brick masterpiece? Good luck with that :)

Btw, the Megalodon will be slightly bigger and more blocky.


Ha. Try mine that will be based on reflexes and mobility similar to a Gundam. (Well almost...)
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| November 8, 2013, 2:12 pm
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Quoting TheWolfBrigade 01

Ha. Try mine that will be based on reflexes and mobility similar to a Gundam. (Well almost...)

Mine is controlled through Dream-Drive (like my Kotanka IFV), so the two pilot become the mech as they control it with their thoughts.
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| November 8, 2013, 2:18 pm
Quoting Matthew Sylvan
Mine is controlled through Dream-Drive (like my Kotanka IFV), so the two pilot become the mech as they control it with their thoughts.


Mine will be controlled by a SMART A.I
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| November 8, 2013, 2:35 pm
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TGDB's artillery department today received a new assignment, to build a new cannon, 1600mm in diameter. The project is named Metal Rain. Further information is not avalaible at the moment.
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| November 9, 2013, 2:11 pm
Quoting Matthew Sylvan
TGDB's artillery department today received a new assignment, to build a new cannon, 1600mm in diameter. The project is named Metal Rain. Further information is not avalaible at the moment.


The Draculina has received an upgrade of her cannons from 800mm to 990mm.
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| November 9, 2013, 3:00 pm
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Quoting TheWolfBrigade 01

The Draculina has received an upgrade of her cannons from 800mm to 990mm.

It is not a regular cannon.
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| November 9, 2013, 3:11 pm
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Quoting TheWolfBrigade 01

The Draculina has received an upgrade of her cannons from 800mm to 990mm.

* rolls eyes * Besides the fact that it is rather difficult to upgun ships like that, it's also rather pointless and reactionary. Don't you think 32 inches is enough? XD
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| November 9, 2013, 5:28 pm
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Quoting TheWolfBrigade 01

The Draculina has received an upgrade of her cannons from 800mm to 990mm.

The biggest guns on my ships are 20in railguns and that is as big as they go for warships.
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| November 9, 2013, 6:42 pm
Quoting Christian Bish
The biggest guns on my ships are 20in railguns and that is as big as they go for warships.


The Impaler is larger than the Iowa class so bigger guns may be needed (well not in reality). Big enough to pound beachhead defenses and nearby warships (Destroyers are probably not even possible, but if their stealth is broken and they are in nearby proximity, then our smaller 500mm guns or SAMs can take care of that :)


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| November 9, 2013, 9:09 pm
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Quoting TheWolfBrigade 01

The 20in Punisher Railguns are not design for the Iowa, they are for the Oranos (7 turrets) and the Yamoto (4 Turrets) Class battleships, The Iowa has 16in cannons and they are Coil accelerated guns to boot. Also, the destroyers can pack a good amount of damage for its small size and this is the stats for the newly refurbished Hammer-class Missile Destroyer:

Hammer-Class Missile Destroyer
Class: Destroyer
Length: 200
Propulsion:
6 x GTR-33XVR1 Tri-Dularin Hydro-Water Jets
4 x VRTX-1FGX MK-II Hexa-Core Reactors
Speed:
70 Knots
120 Knots Max Speed
Armor:
Steel
Titanium
Nano-Fiber/Carbon Tube Mix
Impact Dispersal Plating
Armament:
1 x Dual 8in Hammer Railgun
1 x Dual 65mm Coilgun
4 x 10mm CIWS
6 x ALDS
2 x 6-Cell VLS
32 x VLS Tubes
1 x 16-Cell VLS
3 x Large LVS
6 x 800mm Torpedo Tubes
Crew: 400
Aircraft:
2-5 Small Aircraft
2 medium Aircraft
1 Large helicopter

Note, I will post the updated pics later. Try to top that. XD
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| November 9, 2013, 10:32 pm
Quoting Christian Bish
Quoting TheWolfBrigade 01

The 20in Punisher Railguns are not design for the Iowa, they are for the Oranos (7 turrets) and the Yamoto (4 Turrets) Class battleships, The Iowa has 16in cannons and they are Coil accelerated guns to boot. Also, the destroyers can pack a good amount of damage for its small size and this is the stats for the newly refurbished Hammer-class Missile Destroyer:

Hammer-Class Missile Destroyer
Class: Destroyer
Length: 200
Propulsion:
6 x GTR-33XVR1 Tri-Dularin Hydro-Water Jets
4 x VRTX-1FGX MK-II Hexa-Core Reactors
Speed:
70 Knots
120 Knots Max Speed
Armor:
Steel
Titanium
Nano-Fiber/Carbon Tube Mix
Impact Dispersal Plating
Armament:
1 x Dual 8in Hammer Railgun
1 x Dual 65mm Coilgun
4 x 10mm CIWS
6 x ALDS
2 x 6-Cell VLS
32 x VLS Tubes
1 x 16-Cell VLS
3 x Large LVS
6 x 800mm Torpedo Tubes
Crew: 400
Aircraft:
2-5 Small Aircraft
2 medium Aircraft
1 Large helicopter

Note, I will post the updated pics later. Try to top that. XD


I meant the REAL Iowa class (USS Missouri).

And thanks to you, the fleet had managed to cripple Gaufran's Hades destroyers. The Nosferatu was lost, but the Impaler and her big sister the Draculina has managed to prevail.

Sounds "intimidating" but with the overpowered use of laser defenses which practically makes missiles and other munition obsolete, both ships have enough laser defenses to render even the smallest missile into silly putty. The Impaler ships are also armed with larger anti-ship missiles to render an aircraft carrier to sink along with it's load. Having her guns point downrange (I don't even need the guns, I could just use FOAB based MIRVs to accomplish that) and immediately doom a large beachhead or even a small island fortress to plummet to the seabed.

The Draculina is also the largest, surpassing Zach Sykes Defiance supercarriers in length and height with heavier firepower and doubling protection, coated with NBC, ERA, and strong composites to withstand the even more powerful 400/500kg anti-ship missiles.
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| November 10, 2013, 12:13 am
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Quoting TheWolfBrigade 01
Sounds "intimidating" but with the overpowered use of laser defenses which practically makes missiles and other munition obsolete, both ships have enough laser defenses to render even the smallest missile into silly putty. The Impaler ships are also armed with larger anti-ship missiles to render an aircraft carrier to sink along with it's load. Having her guns point downrange (I don't even need the guns, I could just use FOAB based MIRVs to accomplish that) and immediately doom a large beachhead or even a small island fortress to plummet to the seabed.

The company has been researching ways to render laser APS obsolete, a lot of which looks better than promising.
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| November 10, 2013, 12:26 am
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Quoting Nightmaresquid
The company has been researching ways to render laser APS obsolete, a lot of which looks better than promising.

The Sakal (m) missile can surpass any known ship defense, only our ARES system can stop it.
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| November 10, 2013, 2:42 am
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Quoting Matthew Sylvan
The Sakal (m) missile can surpass any known ship defense, only our ARES system can stop it.

We would have used our technology in the last war, had it not dissolved.
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| November 10, 2013, 3:46 am
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Quoting Matthew Sylvan
The Sakal (m) missile can surpass any known ship defense, only our ARES system can stop it.
Only your system can stop it, someone is a bit overconfident, there is always a couple ways to stop ship to ship missiles.

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| November 10, 2013, 8:42 am
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Quoting Daniel Bozarth
Quoting Matthew Sylvan
The Sakal (m) missile can surpass any known ship defense, only our ARES system can stop it.
Only your system can stop it, someone is a bit overconfident, there is always a couple ways to stop ship to ship missiles.

Overconfident?

http://flic.kr/p/fbq1fV

Nope
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| November 10, 2013, 9:09 am
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Quoting Matthew Sylvan
Overconfident?

http://flic.kr/p/fbq1fV

Nope

I can think of at least four ways to easily counter those missiles, and all my ships are fit with at least two of them.
1.us
2.ls
3.fs
4.ss
Also there are two slightly more complicated methods
1.tn
2.at
Two more things, if there is one thing i have learned about this game from watching it is that you either need too completely overwhelm countermeasure, or exploit a hole.
and finally, if you can say your torpedo is completely undetectable, than i can make a ship that is completely undetectable to your torpedo :P
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| November 10, 2013, 9:19 am
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Quoting Daniel Bozarth
I can think of at least four ways to easily counter those missiles, and all my ships are fit with at least two of them.
1.us
2.ls
3.fs
4.ss
Also there are two slightly more complicated methods
1.tn
2.at
Two more things, if there is one thing i have learned about this game from watching it is that you either need too completely overwhelm countermeasure, or exploit a hole.
and finally, if you can say your torpedo is completely undetectable, than i can make a ship that is completely undetectable to your torpedo :P

First off, I have no idea what all that stands for.

Anyway, read what Matthew said carefully. He didn't say that the torpedo was impossible to detect, he said the missile is impossible for the targeted to detect while it's over the horizon, which is correct, albeit assuming that the ship doesn't have buddies that spot the missile.
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| November 10, 2013, 10:26 am
The AR GARD AI system can stop it.
Global Area Reactive Defense AI system.
it uses the defenses of all vessels in the area to tackle threats. There's more detail about it but I don't ahve the time right now, Going to see Ender's Game.
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| November 10, 2013, 12:26 pm
The Oceanic Empire is developing a missile to also surpass lasers and directed energy weapons.


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| November 10, 2013, 12:56 pm
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up until now the Atlantic navy has relied only on ALDS emitters to protect its ships from incoming threats. the AUDF will now begin equipping all its ships with its newly designed type 42 CIWS cannons to supplement the ALDS systems.

(pictures of the type 42 CIWS guns to be released soon)
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| November 10, 2013, 1:08 pm
1) Ender's Game is awesome. In many ways more awesome than the book, in many ways untrue to it. Still great movie.
2) Ares is now developing a small light boat between PT boat and cutter to fill the small vessel void as it currently has nothing smaller than it's corvettes. These are intended to be variable loadout vessels rumored to be equipped with many new and never-before-seen features supposedly able to counter CUDA torpedoes.
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| November 10, 2013, 4:27 pm
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Does anyone think that Impact dispersal plating or IDP for short can protect a ship from a torpedo?? Because the Judgement-Class Fleet Carrier has this new armor?
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| November 10, 2013, 4:43 pm
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Quoting Christian Bish
Does anyone think that Impact dispersal plating or IDP for short can protect a ship from a torpedo?? Because the Judgement-Class Fleet Carrier has this new armor?

Nope. The torpedo wil still lift it and then break it apart.
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| November 10, 2013, 4:49 pm
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Quoting Christian Bish
Does anyone think that Impact dispersal plating or IDP for short can protect a ship from a torpedo?? Because the Judgement-Class Fleet Carrier has this new armor?

Nope, armor isn't really relevant to stopping a torpedo "hit" due tot he mechanics of how torpedoes destroy their targets.
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| November 10, 2013, 5:09 pm
The new ship I am working on can survive a CUDA hit but it doesn't do it through armor. There are some other tricks to torpedo survivability and I think my approach is quite clever. >:D

EDIT: And Bish, will you get on skype?
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| November 10, 2013, 5:48 pm
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Quoting Zach Eli "Sierra" Sykes
The new ship I am working on can survive a CUDA hit but it doesn't do it through armor. There are some other tricks to torpedo survivability and I think my approach is quite clever. >:D

EDIT: And Bish, will you get on skype?

* points out that there is a 2 kiloton CUDA variant *
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| November 10, 2013, 9:20 pm
Quoting Matthew McCall
* points out that there is a 2 kiloton CUDA variant *


*fits a VX-2 with an antimatter warhead and successfully incinerates an old Landsknechte Republic warship prototype that was ill constructed and inferior to any warship. The warhead covered the whole ship beyond the structure's length and width.
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| November 11, 2013, 12:45 am
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Quoting TheWolfBrigade 01

*fits a VX-2 with an antimatter warhead and successfully incinerates an old Landsknechte Republic warship prototype that was ill constructed and inferior to any warship. The warhead covered the whole ship beyond the structure's length and width.

Yep, there really isn't anything that can survive firepower of that magnitude. However, torpedoes generally don't incinerate their target, most of the time they snap the ships in half by lifting them out of the water which puts massive strain on the ships hull.
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| November 11, 2013, 12:52 am
Quoting Matthew McCall
Yep, there really isn't anything that can survive firepower of that magnitude. However, torpedoes generally don't incinerate their target, most of the time they snap the ships in half by lifting them out of the water which puts massive strain on the ships hull.


VX-2 ain't a torpedo, but it's basically a modernized version of the old V-2 rocket. The body allows a variety of warheads to be fitted and is also powered by antimatter (Official production version uses a cheaper method due to the high expense of antimatter, but it's speed ranges from 18 to mach 23 supersonic and also it uses kinetic energy for extra effect of speed and destruction. The VX-2 is also a dedicated anti-structure missile but as stated before, it can also perform many other roles from delivering conventional explosives, chemical, or even biological (chems and bio weapons are useless to most armies to to excessive NBC protection and for good reason of course XD)


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| November 11, 2013, 1:26 am
The UTA released several images of a prototype mech. Thus far no name has been assigned, but it is referred to simply as Experimental Mech Platform One or EMP-1. Tests on decom tanks and APCs were promising. Anti-air tests were successful, but there was room for improvement. No plans exist for anti-ship warfare.

*Breaks character*
So this is my WIP mech. All feed back is greatly appreciated since I've never built a mech before. Like I said this is only a WIP, so it's nowhere near perfect

http://www.flickr.com/photos/99412649@N02/10803567865/
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| November 11, 2013, 1:25 pm
Quoting Matthew McCall
* points out that there is a 2 kiloton CUDA variant *

*doesn't care*
2KT warheads are not infinite. You don't have enough to go wasting them on ships that can stop them early or survive them. You'd have to resort to the 50s to clear these ships before you could engage the fleet with the 2KTs and these boats are impervious to the 50s, though the shape is not coming along correctly, partly out of me not getting the scale correct.
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| November 11, 2013, 1:58 pm
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Quoting Jack K
The UTA released several images of a prototype mech. Thus far no name has been assigned, but it is referred to simply as Experimental Mech Platform One or EMP-1. Tests on decom tanks and APCs were promising. Anti-air tests were successful, but there was room for improvement. No plans exist for anti-ship warfare.

*Breaks character*
So this is my WIP mech. All feed back is greatly appreciated since I've never built a mech before. Like I said this is only a WIP, so it's nowhere near perfect

http://www.flickr.com/photos/99412649@N02/10803567865/

Hmmm...
1. It has a very high profile (even compared to quite a few of the other mechs in this group it's a bit higher) and very little armor sloping of any kind
2. legs don't seem to lend to agility/ maneuverability
3. There are so many weapons that there is little room for ammo storage, and the railgun caliber is so large that it will only be able to fire a handful of rounds
4. the 4 anti tank rockets are near useless considering APS and the fact that the railgun is far more effective anyway
5. It lacks a laser, which is highly useful on a mech given their higher profile
6. The primaries appear to be fixed to the "torso", which means that the entire torso must swivel to aim.

This is by no means a bad build, but I don't think it would do that well on the battlefield.
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| November 11, 2013, 2:51 pm
Quoting Matthew McCall
Hmmm...
1. It has a very high profile (even compared to quite a few of the other mechs in this group it's a bit higher) and very little armor sloping of any kind
2. legs don't seem to lend to agility/ maneuverability
3. There are so many weapons that there is little room for ammo storage, and the railgun caliber is so large that it will only be able to fire a handful of rounds
4. the 4 anti tank rockets are near useless considering APS and the fact that the railgun is far more effective anyway
5. It lacks a laser, which is highly useful on a mech given their higher profile
6. The primaries appear to be fixed to the "torso", which means that the entire torso must swivel to aim.

This is by no means a bad build, but I don't think it would do that well on the battlefield.

Thanks, this was exactly the kind of constructive criticism I was looking for.

So for a mech to effective here, it needs to be fairly small, agile, with a handful of weapons and heavy armor?
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| November 11, 2013, 3:17 pm
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I should try a mech. I have made one before.
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| November 11, 2013, 5:11 pm
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Quoting Jack K
Thanks, this was exactly the kind of constructive criticism I was looking for.

So for a mech to effective here, it needs to be fairly small, agile, with a handful of weapons and heavy armor?

*AM4 Explorer checks it out and starts to laugh* Seriously now, reduce weaponry. That's for sure. The other thing I would suggest is to remove those trans pieces, add interesting shapes to it, make it look complex, like how any mech should look.

My latest AM4 has ridiculous amount of greebles now, Matthew can prove it.
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| November 11, 2013, 5:44 pm
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Quoting Jack K
Thanks, this was exactly the kind of constructive criticism I was looking for.

So for a mech to effective here, it needs to be fairly small, agile, with a handful of weapons and heavy armor?

Not necessarily, but basically, yes. Towering mechs, while cool, are not a good idea for obvious reasons. And considering that they have legs, this should be taken advantage of. it's essentially a waste of potential to not have a mech to have agility and speed. As for armor, well, mechs obviously can't be as well armored as tanks due to their verticality, but incorporating sloping angles is always good if possible.

As for not having too many weapons, this applies to pretty much everything (ex. double-barreled tanks will end up with something like 1/2 the ammo of a conventional tank due to the canons taking up interior space).
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| November 11, 2013, 5:50 pm
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Quoting Zach Eli "Sierra" Sykes
*doesn't care*
2KT warheads are not infinite. You don't have enough to go wasting them on ships that can stop them early or survive them. You'd have to resort to the 50s to clear these ships before you could engage the fleet with the 2KTs and these boats are impervious to the 50s, though the shape is not coming along correctly, partly out of me not getting the scale correct.

* raises eyebrow * Impervious to 50 ton torpedos... you do realize that's something like 45 times more powerful than heavy modern torpedoes like the Mark 48, and a couple hundred times more powerful than modern light torpedoes, right?

It's true that 2 kiloton torpedoes are rare, but there use is hilarious overkill at roughly 1,600 times more powerful than modern heavy torpedoes
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| November 11, 2013, 6:08 pm
The intended use is a dual-point system.
First, they are being equipped with the most advanced and sensitive instruments to detect any torpedo bearing a 10 ton warhead or larger (based mostly on size) at long ranges. Second, they use their speed to intersect the torpedo's path, get in range, and use their medium range anti-torpedo systems. Anything less than 10 tons is survivable thanks to an extremely unique hull design even a bit strange for me, the king of tri-hull. It is also the first class of vessel to have every production model be built purely out of CNT composites.
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| November 11, 2013, 6:54 pm
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Quoting Zach Eli "Sierra" Sykes
The intended use is a dual-point system.
First, they are being equipped with the most advanced and sensitive instruments to detect any torpedo bearing a 10 ton warhead or larger (based mostly on size) at long ranges. Second, they use their speed to intersect the torpedo's path, get in range, and use their medium range anti-torpedo systems. Anything less than 10 tons is survivable thanks to an extremely unique hull design even a bit strange for me, the king of tri-hull. It is also the first class of vessel to have every production model be built purely out of CNT composites.

Do you mean 10 kilotons of explosive force?
10 tons of explosive in a weapon could be anything, so it would be ridicules to say it could survive. How do you know he doesn't have 10 anti matter bombs in there. Not that it would be allowed.

As for ten kilotons can you prove your hull can withstand a 10 kiloton explosive "factually with sources, and such"? If not I have to put the hammer on your invincible ships.

PS Lockheart has been using carbon nanotube composite armor for most of our vehicles for years.
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| November 11, 2013, 7:27 pm
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Just trying to figure out what you guys are arguing about, your not 100% clear, and I don't feel like dissecting your comments.

10 tons of explosive force may be survived, but ten kilotons simply cannot, if the ship survived "possible" the crew on the decks wouldn't, and the air would be sucked out like a 4 year old drinking a milkshake from a straw. It would be like a nuke went off on the ship.

As for ten tons of explosives inside the weapon its more terrifying of what its carrying, wouldn't want a corrosive nanotech materiel to eat away your ship, or a device that emits sonic waves to deafen a 5 square mile area making crew commands impossible.
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| November 11, 2013, 7:39 pm
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Quoting Zach Eli "Sierra" Sykes
The intended use is a dual-point system.
First, they are being equipped with the most advanced and sensitive instruments to detect any torpedo bearing a 10 ton warhead or larger (based mostly on size) at long ranges. Second, they use their speed to intersect the torpedo's path, get in range, and use their medium range anti-torpedo systems. Anything less than 10 tons is survivable thanks to an extremely unique hull design even a bit strange for me, the king of tri-hull. It is also the first class of vessel to have every production model be built purely out of CNT composites.

Actively scanning like that is a great way to give away your position, and besides the fact that no scanner can be perfect, I don't see how you can tell the warhead strength by size due to the fact that multiple nations use the same torpedoe models with different warhead variants. Anti torpedo systems are definitely a good thing to have though.

Anyway, from what I understand it sounds like building solely with CNT is not a good idea (or at the very least is not thought to be feasible), but they would absolutely help with sieving torpedo hits.
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| November 11, 2013, 7:59 pm
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Quoting Nightmaresquid
Do you mean 10 kilotons of explosive force?
10 tons of explosive in a weapon could be anything, so it would be ridicules to say it could survive. How do you know he doesn't have 10 anti matter bombs in there. Not that it would be allowed.

As for ten kilotons can you prove your hull can withstand a 10 kiloton explosive "factually with sources, and such"? If not I have to put the hammer on your invincible ships.

PS Lockheart has been using carbon nanotube composite armor for most of our vehicles for years.

I think he means 10 ton TNT equivalent ;)
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| November 11, 2013, 8:01 pm
Quoting Matthew Sylvan
*AM4 Explorer checks it out and starts to laugh* Seriously now, reduce weaponry. That's for sure. The other thing I would suggest is to remove those trans pieces, add interesting shapes to it, make it look complex, like how any mech should look.

My latest AM4 has ridiculous amount of greebles now, Matthew can prove it.

Yeah, I went a bit overboard. I had no idea what would work, so I tried a lot. This was more or less a test in mech design, so I didn't put too much effort into it. I'm already working on a new mech. Is there anything that I should look at for inspiration?
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| November 11, 2013, 8:19 pm
Quoting Matthew McCall
Not necessarily, but basically, yes. Towering mechs, while cool, are not a good idea for obvious reasons. And considering that they have legs, this should be taken advantage of. it's essentially a waste of potential to not have a mech to have agility and speed. As for armor, well, mechs obviously can't be as well armored as tanks due to their verticality, but incorporating sloping angles is always good if possible.

As for not having too many weapons, this applies to pretty much everything (ex. double-barreled tanks will end up with something like 1/2 the ammo of a conventional tank due to the canons taking up interior space).

Thanks again. I'm glad for the advice even if it is a bit disheartening. I'll take all of this to heart for then next try. Also, what mocs do you say are a good place to seek inspiration?
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| November 11, 2013, 8:19 pm
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Quoting Jack K
Thanks again. I'm glad for the advice even if it is a bit disheartening. I'll take all of this to heart for then next try. Also, what mocs do you say are a good place to seek inspiration?

It's a bit soft sci-fi, but I'm a big fan of the Tau Crysis Suit from Warhammer 40k. It's small, mobile (especially since it has a jump pack), and has both decent armor and a very capable variety of load outs.

I may or may not have built a conglomeratetised version of it today... XD
http://images2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20130419052419/warhammer40k/images/3/32/Battlesuitattack.jpg
http://images2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20130405040447/warhammer40k/images/c/cb/Xv8_crisis_enforcer_tau_cover.jpg
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| November 11, 2013, 8:59 pm
Today a new Impaler ship has been commissioned as the Count Dracula also dubbed as the Alucard and the laser prototype that was used to ward off Gaufran's airships Vlad III has been converted into it's original class now sporting a different armament (pics and details will be further released).

Although further production of the ships have been halted, a last production of three more will be made.

"The Transylvania"
"Count Dracula"
"Bram Stoker"

A down scaled version as a smaller counterpart will be the Hellsing class.

The new ships will be destroyers with similar Zimwalt class structuring. So far some namings for the ship have been leaked.

"Integra Hellsing"
"The Seras Victoria"
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| November 11, 2013, 11:45 pm
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Quoting Jack K
Thanks again. I'm glad for the advice even if it is a bit disheartening. I'll take all of this to heart for then next try. Also, what mocs do you say are a good place to seek inspiration?

For me, Hawken was a huge inspiration.
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| November 12, 2013, 3:39 am
Based on the results of the trial of the EMP-1, the UTA has relegated the prototype to the scrap yard. Two new prototypes are in the works, XMP-2 and XMP-3. Details are as follows:

XMP-2:
-quardrapedal
-low profile (7-10 feet)
-light armor (similar to that of scout vehicles)
-high caliber railgun and several HMGs
-unmanned

XMP-3:
-bipedal
-mid height (13-20 ft)
-heavy armor (similar to that of the M5 IFV)
-Large gatling gun (35mm+)
-crew of one or two

No dates for release have been determined.
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| November 12, 2013, 3:27 pm
The UTA has tested a new Mech, the XMP-2. Tests at the red sands range showed it to be a stable and capable anti-armor platform. Images found here: http://www.flickr.com/photos/99412649@N02/10860581604/

*breaks character*: once again, a WIP, all constructive criticism is welcome.
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| November 14, 2013, 5:13 pm
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Well, i am a man of my word, and i am in need of a gudfight at least once before this thing finished ( i want to have at least some experience before D&C III) So the nation of ciphra declares war on the conglomerate.
(final note: i was going to declare war on nightmaresquid because he is least likely to get PO'ed at me, but than i thought that would be suicide, and i would like to have at least a fighting chance)
Fight outnumbered
Fight hard
Win
and good luck McCall (although i doubt you will need luck)
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| November 14, 2013, 8:43 pm
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Quoting Daniel Bozarth
Well, i am a man of my word, and i am in need of a gudfight at least once before this thing finished ( i want to have at least some experience before D&C III) So the nation of ciphra declares war on the conglomerate.
(final note: i was going to declare war on nightmaresquid because he is least likely to get PO'ed at me, but than i thought that would be suicide, and i would like to have at least a fighting chance)
Fight outnumbered
Fight hard
Win
and good luck McCall (although i doubt you will need luck)

After intially laughing hysterically, our Board of CEOs is mortified now that they realize that they will finally have to update our nation'a stats to reflect both casualties and production. They are not looking forward to this task.

* breaks 4rth wall *

Anyway, well, I didn't see this coming, and I guess I'll have to cancel my fight with Wolf. Hmmm... I suppose I should get around to posting my new awesome mech of awesomeness.
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| November 14, 2013, 9:41 pm
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Quoting Matthew McCall
After intially laughing hysterically, our Board of CEOs is now mortified now that they realize that they will finally have to update our nation'a stats to reflect both casualties and production. They are not looking forward to this task.

* breaks 4rth wall *

Anyway, well, I didn't see this coming, and I guess I'll have to cancel my fight with Wolf. Hmmm... I suppose I should get around to posting my new awesome mech of awesomeness.

I can take over for you McCall, I have a nation next to his nation XD. I will get started making the plan to take him out and how much damage should I do??
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| November 14, 2013, 9:47 pm
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Quoting Christian Bish
I can take over for you McCall, I have a nation next to his nation XD. I will get started making the plan to take him out and how much damage should I do??

No, I don't want to start a game of "dogpile Daniel", such things are hardly needed given his tiny navy and as far as I can tell complete lack of assault ships. Why he even bothered to build LCACs is something I don't understand as he lacks any way to transport them to my shores. Unless I'm missing something there really isn't any reason to call in my allies to gangup on him in an already unbalanced match.
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| November 14, 2013, 9:54 pm
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Quoting Matthew McCall
No, I don't want to start a game of "dogpile Daniel", such things are hardly needed given his tiny navy and as far as I can tell complete lack of assault ships. Why he even bothered to build LCACs is something I don't understand as he lacks any way to transport them to my shores. Unless I'm missing something there really isn't any reason to call in my allies to gangup on him in an already unbalanced match.

I mean Wolf.
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| November 14, 2013, 9:56 pm
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Quoting Christian Bish
I mean Wolf.

Oh, whether or not you attack wolf is completely up to you. I don't want to be involved in anything wolf related at the moment.
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| November 14, 2013, 10:16 pm
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Quoting Matthew McCall
Anyway, well, I didn't see this coming, and I guess I'll have to cancel my fight with Wolf. Hmmm... I suppose I should get around to posting my new awesome mech of awesomeness.

If you would rather fight wolf we can put this off, i honestly just want to fight someone before this whole thing is over.
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| November 15, 2013, 7:01 am
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Quoting Matthew McCall
No, I don't want to start a game of "dogpile Daniel", such things are hardly needed given his tiny navy and as far as I can tell complete lack of assault ships. Why he even bothered to build LCACs is something I don't understand as he lacks any way to transport them to my shores. Unless I'm missing something there really isn't any reason to call in my allies to gangup on him in an already unbalanced match.

Oh ye of little faith.
btw we need a cm
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| November 15, 2013, 7:06 am
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Quoting Daniel Bozarth
Oh ye of little faith.
btw we need a cm

One doesn't simply declares war on SMART.
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| November 15, 2013, 7:28 am
Actually Bish it's more of a spar I proposed. Like a vs mode with no official loss or land grabs. I've claimed neutrality and I'm only interested in making business with the highest bidder.

I don't feel like I have the force to take you on if it's official but it's not like you care XD.
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| November 15, 2013, 10:50 am
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Quoting Daniel Bozarth
Oh ye of little faith.
btw we need a cm

No, really, you lack almost any power projection capabilities, with the vast majority of your navy besides a handful of carriers, destroyers, and subs unable to be deployed in an offensive role (hint: lcacs need an assualt ship to transport them to the battlefield). This also means that your ability to transport an invasion force is extremely limited.

You are correct that we would need a CM.
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| November 15, 2013, 12:06 pm
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Quoting Daniel Bozarth
If you would rather fight wolf we can put this off, i honestly just want to fight someone before this whole thing is over.

It sounds like Bish would like to scrimmage with Wolf, and I'm curious of how you plan to attack with so little assets to work with.
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| November 15, 2013, 12:13 pm
As of now I'm building a PAK FA styled fighter plus a cosmetic upgrade to the Nighthawk.

Bish, where can we get a CM for this little spar? I cannot wait to test the Pharaoh's true capabilities.
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| November 15, 2013, 12:42 pm
The Oceanic Military is preparing to develop a new FOAB type missile to replace the VX-2. The VX-2 will continue to serve in future war fronts but this new weapon will be more practical and will be downsized than the V-2 styled body of the VX-2.
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| November 15, 2013, 12:49 pm
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Quoting Matthew McCall
No, really, you lack almost any power projection capabilities, with the vast majority of your navy besides a handful of carriers, destroyers, and subs unable to be deployed in an offensive role (hint: lcacs need an assualt ship to transport them to the battlefield). This also means that your ability to transport an invasion force is extremely limited.

You are correct that we would need a CM.

One, you are mistaken, two, i have imagination.
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| November 15, 2013, 4:43 pm
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Quoting Daniel Bozarth
One, you are mistaken, two, i have imagination.

Analysis of your navy:

5 Aquamarine Subs http://www.mocpages.com/moc.php/323772

Is quite well built and armed, but it's that stealthy due to the high amount of greebling.

2 Midway class carriers http://www.mocpages.com/moc.php/366271

A tiny aircraft carrier with little ability to carry aircraft (15).

84 Otter class support ships http://www.mocpages.com/moc.php/323625

Small, decent firepower for its size, bridge design lowers stealth somewhat.

66 Water Skimmer Patrol Torpedo Boats http://www.mocpages.com/moc.php/366957

Small, decent firepower for its size, logically has limited range unless supported.

30 Water Skimmer P.T. AA boats
http://www.mocpages.com/moc.php/366957

Doesn't exist as there is no picture for it.

35 Water Skimmer P.T. Mine layers
http://www.mocpages.com/moc.php/366957

Doesn't exist as there is no picture for it.

20 Minnow light attack subs. http://www.mocpages.com/moc.php/363362

A very small sub with little offensive use, likely incapable of long-distance missions.

400 Tic, tactical insertion craft. http://universe.lego.com/en-us/community/creationlab/displaycreation.aspx?id=7c10152d-31bd-4fad-99ba-86c994aeb801&memberId=9f37eb32-09d9-4fd2-a49e-558e87c9ea79

A small spec-ops landing craft, seemingly has no assault ship or other carrier needed to transport them.

140 type 3 ttlc landing craft http://universe.lego.com/en-us/community/creationlab/displaycreation.aspx?id=0a78a807-0c08-41d5-813b-d663b35d75c5&memberId=6c1b66eb-de1b-4ad8-89c8-e80a71f92e67

Decent LCACs, they seemingly have no assault ship or other carrier needed to transport them.

5 Oklahoma Minelayers
http://www.mocpages.com/moc.php/303465

A well-built ship, unstealthy and low on firepower.

3 Nevada frigates

Unknown as they are unlinked.

1 Enterprise destroyers
http://www.mocpages.com/moc.php/347748

Heavy armament of missiles, lacks guns or point-defense, stealthy.

1 golem class carier

Unknown as unlinked

As you can see, you have a wide variety of small submersibles, but they logically would be incapable of long-distance attacks due to simple logistics issues. Your navy can likely transport around 100-150 aircraft total, and only has 9 destroyers/frigates to escort your 3 carriers. You also lack the ability to transport your LCACs. I will admit that the large amount of submersibles would be dangerous, but without logistics support which you completely lack they will quickly lose effectiveness.

Im reasonably sure Im not missing something here, and I would like to point out that I have an imagination too. XD

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| November 15, 2013, 7:26 pm
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Quoting Matthew McCall
Analysis of your navy:

5 Aquamarine Subs http://www.mocpages.com/moc.php/323772

Is quite well built and armed, but it's that stealthy due to the high amount of greebling.

2 Midway class carriers http://www.mocpages.com/moc.php/366271

A tiny aircraft carrier with little ability to carry aircraft (15).

84 Otter class support ships http://www.mocpages.com/moc.php/323625

Small, decent firepower for its size, bridge design lowers stealth somewhat.

66 Water Skimmer Patrol Torpedo Boats http://www.mocpages.com/moc.php/366957

Small, decent firepower for its size, logically has limited range unless supported.

30 Water Skimmer P.T. AA boats
http://www.mocpages.com/moc.php/366957

Doesn't exist as there is no picture for it.

35 Water Skimmer P.T. Mine layers
http://www.mocpages.com/moc.php/366957

Doesn't exist as there is no picture for it.

20 Minnow light attack subs. http://www.mocpages.com/moc.php/363362

A very small sub with little offensive use, likely incapable of long-distance missions.

400 Tic, tactical insertion craft. http://universe.lego.com/en-us/community/creationlab/displaycreation.aspx?id=7c10152d-31bd-4fad-99ba-86c994aeb801&memberId=9f37eb32-09d9-4fd2-a49e-558e87c9ea79

A small spec-ops landing craft, seemingly has no assault ship or other carrier needed to transport them.

140 type 3 ttlc landing craft http://universe.lego.com/en-us/community/creationlab/displaycreation.aspx?id=0a78a807-0c08-41d5-813b-d663b35d75c5&memberId=6c1b66eb-de1b-4ad8-89c8-e80a71f92e67

Decent LCACs, they seemingly have no assault ship or other carrier needed to transport them.

5 Oklahoma Minelayers
http://www.mocpages.com/moc.php/303465

A well-built ship, unstealthy and low on firepower.

3 Nevada frigates

Unknown as they are unlinked.

1 Enterprise destroyers
http://www.mocpages.com/moc.php/347748

Heavy armament of missiles, lacks guns or point-defense, stealthy.

1 golem class carier

Unknown as unlinked

As you can see, you have a wide variety of small submersibles, but they logically would be incapable of long-distance attacks due to simple logistics issues. Your navy can likely transport around 100-150 aircraft total, and only has 9 destroyers/frigates to escort your 3 carriers. You also lack the ability to transport your LCACs. I will admit that the large amount of submersibles would be dangerous, but without logistics support which you completely lack they will quickly lose effectiveness.

Im reasonably sure Im not missing something here, and I would like to point out that I have an imagination too. XD

I am sorry, but i will not tip my hand yet, all i am going to say is that you are missing something, well actually three or four things, also, the variants that dont have pictures are in the lfx file, however, i could upload pictures, if you want.
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| November 15, 2013, 10:12 pm
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Quoting Daniel Bozarth
I am sorry, but i will not tip my hand yet, all i am going to say is that you are missing something, well actually three or four things, also, the variants that dont have pictures are in the lfx file, however, i could upload pictures, if you want.

It's required that there are pictures of a creation for it to "exist". Anyway, I look forward to seeing what said surprises are (as long as they aren't countries, which would be both ubderhanded and illegal :P ).
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| November 16, 2013, 1:06 am
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Quoting Matthew McCall
It's required that there are pictures of a creation for it to "exist". Anyway, I look forward to seeing what said surprises are (as long as they aren't countries, which would be both ubderhanded and illegal :P ).

I can assure you of that, there are no other countries that i plan on having intervene in this conflict. ANd also, we still need a CM
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| November 16, 2013, 8:46 am
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Quoting Daniel Bozarth
I can assure you of that, there are no other countries that i plan on having intervene in this conflict. ANd also, we still need a CM

Indeed.

Anyone willing to volunteer?
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| November 16, 2013, 11:52 am
Quoting Matthew McCall
Indeed.

Anyone willing to volunteer?

I would be willing, but if you feel I'm not experienced enough I understand.
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| November 16, 2013, 12:05 pm
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Quoting Jack K
I would be willing, but if you feel I'm not experienced enough I understand.

I think you've been here long enough to have a good idea of how this works. :)
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| November 16, 2013, 1:57 pm
Quoting Matthew McCall
I think you've been here long enough to have a good idea of how this works. :)

Thanks, I'll take plans up to 11/25 if that works.
My email is jackkent19971@gmail.com

Tell me if I'm doing anything wrong :)
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| November 16, 2013, 2:01 pm
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Quoting Jack K
Thanks, I'll take plans up to 11/25 if that works.
My email is jackkent19971@gmail.com

Tell me if I'm doing anything wrong :)

Isn't the 25th a long time to plan! It's 9 days from now. It's fine to have it there if you want, but the sooner we start the better. :)
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| November 16, 2013, 4:05 pm
Quoting Matthew McCall
Isn't the 25th a long time to plan! It's 9 days from now. It's fine to have it there if you want, but the sooner we start the better. :)

True, but it should be plenty of time and once I have both plans, I will begin.
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| November 16, 2013, 5:10 pm
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Quoting Jack K
Thanks, I'll take plans up to 11/25 if that works.
My email is jackkent19971@gmail.com

Tell me if I'm doing anything wrong :)

Fine by me, might even have the plans to you by tonight

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| November 16, 2013, 6:35 pm
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Today head officials at the Company observed an early prototype for a weapon system dubbed the Fenrir logistical weapon.
This system is still being developed but the mainline model is 57% complete. The front hydraulic legs, and weapon systems are finished "along with most of its body", and various other tech is planned to be used.
We cant say much on size, but we can say it will be a three legged mech, and with focus on long range combat.
This has been seen as a milestone for our already inflated high tech walker fleet. Its expected to be a power player when compared to SMART, and other nations inventories.
After all we excel at walker technology

Also with recent foreign aggressions heating up once again, LH co. has formed an official control force to be put in charge of military operations. The National Office of Sectional Enforcement, "NOOSE".
This agency is basically LH "Militarized Congress" and is going to be the mainline command.
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| November 17, 2013, 11:22 am
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TNDB started working on a new kind of naval vehicle. It will be a unique vessel, a warship and submarine at the same time. Not only the way it fights is unique, its look is also never seen before. It will have a lot of complex angles that will make up its shape in the end.
So far the armaments is as follows:
-6 forward torpedo tubes (all tubes are 800mm)
-4 pop up torpedo tubes
-6 side torpedo tubes
-1 long barrell 381mm railgun
-2 short barrell 381mm railgun
-8 DLS tubes
-2 Kilo laser turret

All these fold back into the hull, so it has a smooth look.

More info on the Bethlen-class will follow.
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| November 17, 2013, 3:05 pm
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The AUDF is starting work on a new cruiser that will fill the navy's need for a large surface warship.
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| November 17, 2013, 6:26 pm
The Oceanic Navy will showcase it's new destroyer/arsenal ship pack.


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| November 17, 2013, 9:43 pm
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Today the company announced the completion of the Fenrir class logistical mech. This is a state of the art heavy duty bigdogish mech with the ability to carry up to 10 tons of equipment or modular weapon upgrades. This revolutionary concept make this one of the "if not the" most advanced, and multipurpose mechs in the world.
A truck bed style top can carry cargo, weapon systems, or intelligence upgrades. We are working on,

Radio, and reconnaissance package.
Equipped with radar, and countermeasures.

Anti aircraft package, comes equipped with a megawatt laser system. This can be linked with the RR package for increased effectiveness.

Heavy missile system, for long range strikes on enemy armor.

Troop transport system, adds a modular APC canister.

More info soon.
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| November 18, 2013, 9:29 am
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I may post the Fenrir soon, but I want to make another creation to pair it with. possibly a small gundamish hard suit.
I want it to be like a smaller version of this
http://www.lineofcontact.net/image/lg_mvitzh01.jpg

I will be calling it the Drauger class mobile frame.
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| November 18, 2013, 9:36 am
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While the iron predator is under construction, a smaller project has began with good initial results. The Grizzly LRV is an all terrain vehicle similar to a warthog designed for use by special ops soldiers. More later.
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| November 18, 2013, 2:51 pm
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Quoting jack kenyon
While the iron predator is under construction
*Megalodon grabs it and throws it into the sun*

lel

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| November 18, 2013, 3:40 pm
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Today at 3 PM EST, The head representatives from Lockheart, and NOOSE command, and control sat down at a round table in the capital city of Lucix. The men in questions who's names can not be revealed for matters of national security have reviewed the new Drauger mobile frame, and the Fenrir logistics "utility" mech.
They have decided that pictures will be released tomorrow due to poor weather, and malfunctioning internet sites that the photos where intended to be posted on. Instead a full presentation will be posted on a famous site named Mocpages tomorrow if all goes as planned.

Also the new Drauger has preceded all expectations, and command has promoted the men responsible stating that it has appeared in its present form, as one of the best weapon systems designed by the Company yet.
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| November 18, 2013, 4:10 pm
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The conglomerate is facing a wide DEGREE (this may or no be a pun XD ) of issues with it's new version of the quantum accelorator ring. We are now requesting aid from Tongaria for the illusive number needed to correct the problems we face.

In related news, we ask the oceanic how their own project is going along, and if they actually have any idea why they are making one besides the fact that we are making one. Conglomerate scientists believe that the oceanic is copying us without knowing what they are building.
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| November 18, 2013, 9:31 pm
Quoting Matthew McCall
The conglomerate is facing a wide DEGREE (this may or no be a pun XD ) of issues with it's new version of the quantum accelorator ring. We are now requesting aid from Tongaria for the illusion number needed to correct the problems we face.

In related news, we ask the oceanic how their own project is going along, and if they actually have any idea why they are making one besides the fact that we are making one. Conglomerate scientists believe that the oceanic is copying us without knowing what they are building.


Our own tunneling device is based on a simple driller and powered by Tesla and microfusion cells. Due to our rather cheap but cost effective nature we are now trying to spare our resources to better and effective methods.
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| November 18, 2013, 10:04 pm
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Quoting Matthew Sylvan
Quoting jack kenyon
While the iron predator is under construction
*Megalodon grabs it and throws it into the sun*

lel

It is a 650 ton vehicle with all manner of defensive armament. Please try! Wpuldn't just disabling it be easier amyway?
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| November 19, 2013, 2:15 am
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Quoting jack kenyon
It is a 650 ton vehicle with all manner of defensive armament. Please try! Wpuldn't just disabling it be easier amyway?

Megalodon is a 200t mech, so it can turn it atleast upside down.

However, disabling is also an option :D 2 381mm railgun and 2 203mm howitzer, yeah, it can disable it for sure ;)
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| November 19, 2013, 3:27 am
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Today the Company announced the full release of our two new weapon systems.
http://www.mocpages.com/moc.php/374705
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| November 19, 2013, 1:59 pm
The Oceanic Government is sending a representative to the Ares Republic to hold a special conference regarding classified sources.

The Oceanic Military will showcase it's new destroyer after delays caused it to turn up late for production.

A fleet of three Impaler ships are sailing off to perform special combat exercises for future combat duties. The ships together fired off their huge guns at obsolete ships.

*Huge cannonfire commences following huge waves from the velocity from the mussel breaks*

These behemoths will rule the waves one day as they did under command of the ASE against Gaufranian attacks.
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| November 23, 2013, 9:19 pm
Project New Manhattan has been initiated. Rumored to produce new antimatter MIRVs and other weapons. Although warheads of such weapons exist, the warheads may be used for new MIRV types for future combat.
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| November 23, 2013, 9:46 pm
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Quoting Matthew Sylvan
Megalodon is a 200t mech, so it can turn it atleast upside down.

However, disabling is also an option :D 2 381mm railgun and 2 203mm howitzer, yeah, it can disable it for sure ;)

It is twenty five metres long, but only five high. COG is very low. Also, as for disabling it, it has up to 1.5m of composite/alloy armour with our carbon nanotube reinforced titanium honeycomb centre, filled with the viscous gel that spreads high energy blast across the whole structure, rather than on a fixed point. Basically, high powered railgun rounds have very little effect, and missiles are unlikely to get through the combined defences of their escorts and their own armaments. (They will never operate alone, that would be suicide)
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| November 24, 2013, 6:15 am
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Quoting jack kenyon
It is twenty five metres long, but only five high. COG is very low. Also, as for disabling it, it has up to 1.5m of composite/alloy armour with our carbon nanotube reinforced titanium honeycomb centre, filled with the viscous gel that spreads high energy blast across the whole structure, rather than on a fixed point. Basically, high powered railgun rounds have very little effect, and missiles are unlikely to get through the combined defences of their escorts and their own armaments. (They will never operate alone, that would be suicide)

In a 1v1 fight up close, the mech wins ;) Its howitzers can also do damage, they fire HESH rounds so no penetration is needed.
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| November 24, 2013, 8:29 am
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Quoting Matthew Sylvan
In a 1v1 fight up close, the mech wins ;) Its howitzers can also do damage, they fire HESH rounds so no penetration is needed.

Hesh requires a solid, continuous sheet of metal armor to work
Against layers of composite and spaced armour its effect is minimal. Not saying my tank is invincible, hesh just won't cut it.

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| November 24, 2013, 10:19 am
Just going to put it out there, I have yet to receive either battle plan. I know that Daniel Bozarth was having computer trouble and the deadline hasn't come yet, but just a reminder.
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| November 25, 2013, 3:35 pm
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Gaufranian Steelworks has revealed two images of the upcoming super tank.
http://www.mocpages.com/moc.php/375065
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| November 25, 2013, 3:56 pm
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Quoting Jack K
Just going to put it out there, I have yet to receive either battle plan. I know that Daniel Bozarth was having computer trouble and the deadline hasn't come yet, but just a reminder.

I'm aware of that, my plan should be in fairly soon.
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| November 25, 2013, 7:10 pm
BREAKING NEWS

The Oceanic Military is building a huge structure in the super center of Airstrip 1. This may be part of a rumor that the government may attempt of interstellar travel and in hopes of making possible contact to Terra.


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| November 26, 2013, 11:53 am
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Quoting TheWolfBrigade 01
BREAKING NEWS

The Oceanic Military is building a huge structure in the super center of Airstrip 1. This may be part of a rumor that the government may attempt of interstellar travel and in hopes of making possible contact to Terra.


And as it takes off, the hopes of a nation go with it.
*Iron Predator shhots it down*
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| November 26, 2013, 12:34 pm
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Quoting jack kenyon
And as it takes off, the hopes of a nation go with it.
*Iron Predator shhots it down*

For interstellar travel, SMART built something that you can't shoot down with your Iron Predator.
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| November 26, 2013, 1:18 pm
Quoting jack kenyon
And as it takes off, the hopes of a nation go with it.
*Iron Predator shhots it down*


I take that as a declaration of war?

*Aims all armament at Gaufran*

Not today.
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| November 26, 2013, 1:30 pm
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Quoting Matthew Sylvan
For interstellar travel, SMART built something that you can't shoot down with your Iron Predator.

Yep, it is literally impossible for any number of anti-aircraft/anti-spacecraft defenses to shoot down our travel method. In fact, not even the entire imperial navy and starfleet combined could stop it once it begins to travel. :D
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| November 26, 2013, 1:32 pm
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Quoting TheWolfBrigade 01

I take that as a declaration of war?

*Aims all armament at Gaufran*

Not today.

It was obviously a joke silly XD

Anyway, given that we are in an entirely different galaxy travel to terra isn't really possible with a spaceship.
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| November 26, 2013, 1:40 pm
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Quoting TheWolfBrigade 01

I take that as a declaration of war?

*Aims all armament at Gaufran*

Not today.

No need for that, we are still at war. The AR formed a pact with us, but as the threat from Tongoria is now gone, we no longer need to keep it. Our forces were never pulled back. We are still at the Gates of City 01 and ready to fight. Do you really want me to give the order?
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| November 26, 2013, 2:11 pm
Quoting jack kenyon
No need for that, we are still at war. The AR formed a pact with us, but as the threat from Tongoria is now gone, we no longer need to keep it. Our forces were never pulled back. We are still at the Gates of City 01 and ready to fight. Do you really want me to give the order?


It was a joke.

But I remember Zach saying something about you agreeing of not taking any possessions or claims of my land...

The Oceanic Empire will leave this issue with the AR, but I sense an infringement of said agreement...And I have full pledge to AR as a business partner.
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| November 26, 2013, 10:06 pm
Quoting jack kenyon
No need for that, we are still at war. The AR formed a pact with us, but as the threat from Tongoria is now gone, we no longer need to keep it. Our forces were never pulled back. We are still at the Gates of City 01 and ready to fight. Do you really want me to give the order?


FYI if you do so now, my forces will be extra tougher than last time. This time I came a little prepared to fend off of your pathetic air dreadnoughts. With amasses of CIWS, SAM, and XL-1 firebases, I have turned my cities into full combat ready powerhouse fortresses.

Also the locals would love to feast on your men and would happily resort to any gorilla warfare type maneuvers. Just saying, no need to waste anymore units this time around.

Just saying...

Now off to make wa--err...Units.

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| November 26, 2013, 10:30 pm
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Right. Its on. Who will moderate? I finally want to finnish a war for once
As for the treaty, I carefully avoided speaking about the land claims because I knew I was in violation of the pact. This didnt mean that the ARBwould attack me, just not help me out.
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| November 27, 2013, 2:04 am
Quoting jack kenyon
Right. Its on. Who will moderate? I finally want to finnish a war for once
As for the treaty, I carefully avoided speaking about the land claims because I knew I was in violation of the pact. This didnt mean that the ARBwould attack me, just not help me out.


The Oceanic government will carefully take appropriate measures on this...Prepare to face the wrath of my Pharaohs and Chariots...I will guarantee of your defeat.

BREAKING NEWS

"All hands on deck, take up arms, and prepare the feast...Where gonna finish off Gaufran's useless troops once and for all..."

The Gaufranian military was last spotted near the gates of City 01 and all active sentries and missile defenses will be on the lookout of their scum! War has resumed it's course...
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| November 27, 2013, 8:11 am
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The AUDF has removed all weapons from 7 Oklahoma minelayers and have replaced their carbon fiber hulls with pure steel hulls. these 7 ships have been placed in large metal boxes and have been transported to an advanced research facility.
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| November 27, 2013, 9:12 am
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Tongorian Navala Forces are now on full alert as one of our allies is in great danger. Our eastern coast is now patrolled freauently by a classified number and type of vessels.

We will take action if necessary.
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| November 27, 2013, 10:05 am
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Quoting jack kenyon
Right. Its on. Who will moderate? I finally want to finnish a war for once
As for the treaty, I carefully avoided speaking about the land claims because I knew I was in violation of the pact. This didnt mean that the ARBwould attack me, just not help me out.

Jack, can I get your e-mail address? I would like some opinions on one of my upcoming creation. (mine is: adjalpezt0@citromail.hu)
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| November 27, 2013, 10:15 am
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Quoting jack kenyon
Right. Its on. Who will moderate? I finally want to finnish a war for once
As for the treaty, I carefully avoided speaking about the land claims because I knew I was in violation of the pact. This didnt mean that the ARBwould attack me, just not help me out.

The Company would of course be willing to intrude into this war if Gaufran needed. We still haven't been able to fight in any wars as they all seem to end as I step onto the field :(
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| November 27, 2013, 1:18 pm
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On the eve of war, the Conglomerate has unveiled a new mech. If the enemy is not crushed swiftly, it is expected that these mechs will be deployed combat operations. All existing stalker and ogre mechs have been upgraded to the new standards.

http://www.mocpages.com/moc.php/375146
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| November 27, 2013, 1:40 pm
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Quoting Matthew McCall
On the eve of war, the Conglomerate has unveiled a new mech. If the enemy is not crushed swiftly, it is expected that these mechs will be deployed combat operations. All existing stalker and ogre mechs have been upgraded to the new standards.

http://www.mocpages.com/moc.php/375146
albeit, some of your mechs have to survive to be upgraded...

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| November 27, 2013, 2:34 pm
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Mail sent.

I shared my e-mail plenty of times, so no need to delete mine:D
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| November 27, 2013, 2:41 pm
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Quoting Daniel Bozarth
Quoting Matthew McCall
On the eve of war, the Conglomerate has unveiled a new mech. If the enemy is not crushed swiftly, it is expected that these mechs will be deployed combat operations. All existing stalker and ogre mechs have been upgraded to the new standards.

http://www.mocpages.com/moc.php/375146
albeit, some of your mechs have to survive to be upgraded...

When I say "Have been upgraded", that is a past-tense XD

I added this creation just before sending my plan. :)
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| November 27, 2013, 3:29 pm
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Quoting Matthew McCall
When I say "Have been upgraded", that is a past-tense XD

I added this creation just before sending my plan. :)

Perchance is this the reason you didn't send your plans in on time. :P
Im fine with this (makes no difference to my plan, your mechs still burn just as easily), but dont i recall you telling someone they cant just upgrade all there creations to more advanced ones in a day?
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| November 27, 2013, 3:37 pm
Although the Oceanic Empire feels that it can do better on it's own however, we are asking for the closest ally to keep any odds at bay. We wish that the AUDF can provide some naval and ground support. The AR has not been responsive to this since we last heard from their report.

Civilians are preparing to to move against Gaufranian attempts to capture the city. Almost all able bodied men and woman are in uniform and are equipping themselves to best Gaufran's long awaited attack.
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| November 27, 2013, 11:17 pm
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Quoting TheWolfBrigade 01
Although the Oceanic Empire feels that it can do better on it's own however, we are asking for the closest ally to keep any odds at bay. We wish that the AUDF can provide some naval and ground support. The AR has not been responsive to this since we last heard from their report.

Civilians are preparing to to move against Gaufranian attempts to capture the city. Almost all able bodied men and woman are in uniform and are equipping themselves to best Gaufran's long awaited attack.

The AUDF would gladly give naval support to its ally. We will be deploying a carrier task force and a amphibious landing ships to transport marine battalions and armored units.
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| November 28, 2013, 1:02 am
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Quoting TheWolfBrigade 01
Although the Oceanic Empire feels that it can do better on it's own however, we are asking for the closest ally to keep any odds at bay. We wish that the AUDF can provide some naval and ground support. The AR has not been responsive to this since we last heard from their report.

Civilians are preparing to to move against Gaufranian attempts to capture the city. Almost all able bodied men and woman are in uniform and are equipping themselves to best Gaufran's long awaited attack.

So are you acknowledging that your civilians are a militia? So Gaufran can do whatever he wants against them, and technically there's nothing unethical about it. Also your military has to be a small fraction of your population, and a militia is militarized by nature.
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| November 28, 2013, 1:07 am
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Quoting Navy Person
The AUDF would gladly give naval support to its ally. We will be deploying a carrier task force and a amphibious landing ships to transport marine battalions and armored units.

If this is the case LH will intervene in the conflict. This is clearly escalading, I urge you to leave it between the two. We have no issues with AUDF but if you chose to aid the aggressors in the conflict "a nation that has clearly militarized its entire population putting them in harms way to do its bidding" We will be forced to completely neutralize both Absolute, and AUDF. This isn't personal, just have to protect my ally.
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| November 28, 2013, 1:13 am
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Quoting Nightmaresquid
If this is the case LH will intervene in the conflict. This is clearly escalading, I urge you to leave it between the two. We have no issues with AUDF but if you chose to aid the aggressors in the conflict "a nation that has clearly militarized its entire population putting them in harms way to do its bidding" We will be forced to completely neutralize both Absolute, and AUDF. This isn't personal, just have to protect my ally.

The AUDF is quite against the militarization of the absolutes population as it is very inhumane. The AUDF will send in its fleet on one condition, that the absolute would leave the fighting to its military and have its citizens stay out of the line of fire. Since the citizens formed a large portion of the absolutes defense the AUDF will be sending an additional 40,000 soldiers to aid in the defense of the absolute.
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| November 28, 2013, 1:27 am
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