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Suggestions for LOM
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Any Ideas on how to make this group better? State them below!
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| May 23, 2013, 8:17 pm
Is there an official map for LOM yet? That would be helpful.
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| May 23, 2013, 9:25 pm
Possible speed build challenges?
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| May 24, 2013, 7:32 am
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Quoting Justin L.
Is there an official map for LOM yet? That would be helpful.

Look on the homepage. ... And then if you want a bigger image click on the link below it that says, "HERE"
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| May 24, 2013, 10:14 am
Quoting Freeling ++
Look on the homepage. ... And then if you want a bigger image click on the link below it that says, "HERE"

Ok, thanks!
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| May 24, 2013, 12:24 pm
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Quoting Simon S. Until now, nobody actually cares in which faction he's in... I suggest to create a thread for each faction and have a leader for each. So we could get much more team spirit within a faction and not everybody is doing his own stuff (that also means you'd get +4 threads and +4 mods).
This is a great idea and should be implemented. People must be able to switch factions though, read the story of Sozo to see one reason why it is so important. Thank you for your suggestions.
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| May 25, 2013, 7:04 am
Quoting Simon S.
1. Until now, nobody actually cares in which faction he's in... I suggest to create a thread for each faction and have a leader for each. So we could get much more team spirit within a faction and not everybody is doing his own stuff (that also means you'd get +4 threads and +4 mods).

2. You should do a binding Sign up, where everybody has to create his character and write a short backgroundstory about it, so you'd have some more informations about each player. Also I wouldn't allow to change factions. Once decided the player stays there (at least for the beginning, until the group has some more members).

3. Challenges: It would be great if there always would be a prelude for each challenge, as they do it in Guilds of Historica: http://www.eurobricks.com/forum/index.php?s=bbb7d15cf2ba26ef3b607fdf5fd7ba19&showtopic=62242 (prelude to Challenge 3, by Derfel Cadarn).
This makes the whole thing a little more complexe and interesting to build. It definitely suits a RPG better than just a short text.

4. Points:
Quoting Freeling ++
Universal & Regional Challenge: Entering grants you 5 points. Winning Grants you 10.

Joining an Rogue challenge Grants you 8 points.

Free builds will grant you 2 points.

Really? You should get more points for winning and less for Rogue challenges. So here's my suggestion:
Challenge: 3 for entering, 9 for winning
Rouge challenge: 4 for entering
Free build: 2
Character introduction: 2


So these are some suggestions of my side, I hope I could help you a little bit ;).
-Simon S.

I agree with you, especially on the issue of changing factions, unless you are an outlaw/pirate and have a really good reason for converting.
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| May 25, 2013, 7:55 am
Can we have a tally of all of the people in each faction?
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| May 25, 2013, 9:54 am
Quoting Simon S.
1. Until now, nobody actually cares in which faction he's in... I suggest to create a thread for each faction and have a leader for each. So we could get much more team spirit within a faction and not everybody is doing his own stuff (that also means you'd get +4 threads and +4 mods).

2. You should do a binding Sign up, where everybody has to create his character and write a short backgroundstory about it, so you'd have some more informations about each player. Also I wouldn't allow to change factions. Once decided the player stays there (at least for the beginning, until the group has some more members).

3. Challenges: It would be great if there always would be a prelude for each challenge, as they do it in Guilds of Historica: http://www.eurobricks.com/forum/index.php?s=bbb7d15cf2ba26ef3b607fdf5fd7ba19&showtopic=62242 (prelude to Challenge 3, by Derfel Cadarn).
This makes the whole thing a little more complexe and interesting to build. It definitely suits a RPG better than just a short text.

4. Points:
Quoting Freeling ++
Universal & Regional Challenge: Entering grants you 5 points. Winning Grants you 10.

Joining an Rogue challenge Grants you 8 points.

Free builds will grant you 2 points.

Really? You should get more points for winning and less for Rogue challenges. So here's my suggestion:
Challenge: 3 for entering, 9 for winning
Rouge challenge: 4 for entering
Free build: 2
Character introduction: 2


So these are some suggestions of my side, I hope I could help you a little bit ;).
-Simon S.


1. I agree, factions haven't had an active role in LoM yet and serve more as extra backstory for characters.

2. I agree too, it will make things easier for everybody.

3. I think the way challenges are arranged right now is fine.

4. Only thing I agree with here is Rogue Challenge points.
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| May 25, 2013, 10:22 am
Quoting Justin L.

1. I agree, factions haven't had an active role in LoM yet and serve more as extra backstory for characters.

2. I agree too, it will make things easier for everybody.

3. I think the way challenges are arranged right now is fine.

4. Only thing I agree with here is Rogue Challenge points.

Right, it seems wrong that such a major point-gaining opportunity should be open to only one faction at a time.

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| May 25, 2013, 11:51 am
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Great topic here Freeling!
Also, I'll update the points today.
-Brick Boy
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| May 25, 2013, 12:12 pm
 Group admin 
Quoting Simon S.

I don't think it's essential to switch factions, even if it can be cool. But if we have factions, it would also be cool to have "faction-points", to see which faction is the best. Means if we allow people to switch factions, this will get very difficult to organize.
I don't think faction points will work because almost 90% of the people in LOM are Outlaws.(Luckily Sozo won't be one for long) I really think we should set up a topic for each faction though, you should asked the admins for the okay and set it up.
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| May 25, 2013, 2:42 pm
 Group admin 
Quoting Simon S.
1. Until now, nobody actually cares in which faction he's in... I suggest to create a thread for each faction and have a leader for each. So we could get much more team spirit within a faction and not everybody is doing his own stuff (that also means you'd get +4 threads and +4 mods).


Sounds good. How does a challenge in each different faction topic, for that faction? So that would mean four challenges a month, but only one for each faction. This would be too hard for one person to do all of this, so having separate people would be a good idea. Would you be interested in being the leader for the Outlaws? But I should probably put Brick Boy over The Faction of Mythron.


Quoting Simon S.
2. You should do a binding Sign up, where everybody has to create his character and write a short backgroundstory about it, so you'd have some more informations about each player. Also I wouldn't allow to change factions. Once decided the player stays there (at least for the beginning, until the group has some more members).


While that is a good idea, that would create a big problem for some people. Like Sozo for Example. And I agree, people should write a good background story for their character.

Quoting Simon S.
3. Challenges: It would be great if there always would be a prelude for each challenge, as they do it in Guilds of Historica: http://www.eurobricks.com/forum/index.php?s=bbb7d15cf2ba26ef3b607fdf5fd7ba19&showtopic=62242 (prelude to Challenge 3, by Derfel Cadarn).
This makes the whole thing a little more complexe and interesting to build. It definitely suits a RPG better than just a short text.

I haven't been very specific on some of the challenges, especially the Guardian, I'll put more time and thought into the challenges in the future.

Quoting Simon S.
You should get more points for winning and less for Rogue challenges. So here's my suggestion:
Challenge: 3 for entering, 9 for winning
Rouge challenge: 4 for entering
Free build: 2
Character introduction: 2



I agree, less for rogue challenges. But rogue challenges only pop up every once in a while. And the current rogue challenge is four points for pt. 1, and four points for pt. 2. I will change the points from 8 to four though. Points for the CURRENT rogue challenge will stay the same though.


Quoting Simon S.
So these are some suggestions of my side, I hope I could help you a little bit ;).
-Simon S


Indeed. Thanks! NOW FOR SOME MAJOR CHANGES! After I eat of course.
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| May 25, 2013, 2:58 pm
 Group admin 
Quoting The Object of Legend
Quoting Simon S.

I don't think it's essential to switch factions, even if it can be cool. But if we have factions, it would also be cool to have "faction-points", to see which faction is the best. Means if we allow people to switch factions, this will get very difficult to organize.
I don't think faction points will work because almost 90% of the people in LOM are Outlaws.(Luckily Sozo won't be one for long) I really think we should set up a topic for each faction though, you should asked the admins for the okay and set it up.

I too agree factions points will not work also.
I'm point keeper and it's hard enough doing the standard points.
-Brick Boy
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| May 25, 2013, 5:33 pm
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Quoting Brick Boy
I too agree factions points will not work also.
I'm point keeper and it's hard enough doing the standard points.
-Brick Boy

Well, it would be neat to see which faction was in the lead. ... And I'm sure The Outlaws would be...
And it wouldn't hurt anything. I might set it up later on the homepage.
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| May 25, 2013, 5:35 pm
I like the idea of a section for each faction. I don't find the rouge challenge system flawed (the points being changed is fine) but the system overall is good. I assumed it would work like bye weeks. The other 3 factions had a bye week so it appears the current faction has the point advantage. This is only temporary as in the next 3 rouge challenges should be for the other factions. Thus making up the difference in points. (each faction having its own rouge challenge) On the issue of switching factions i would discourage such actions and make it more of the exception than the rule. If a person was to switch factions they should lose all points, and rebuild anew in their new faction. Factions being balanced seems only flavorful at the moment (since it seems to have little bearing at this time overall). I am worried that closing a faction off just cause everyone is playing it would limit creativity. If factions do play a larger role simply dividing the points by the number of entries would balance the equation. I think the way challenges are presented, while lacking some important details at times, are open ended enough to lead to creative directions. I really enjoy looking at everyone's creations and stories and look forward to more.

Zim
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| May 25, 2013, 11:10 pm
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Shouldn't you have to look at ALL the entries to a challenge before voting in order to be fair? So many of them are buried and aren't distinguished in their titles, we NEED a thread for posting entries!

(I still think we need separate judges that do not enter the challenge. I'm sure we have members experienced in judging. I have a lot of experience so I could be a judge for the Rogue challenge since I'm not entering.)
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| May 28, 2013, 4:42 pm
 Group admin 
Quoting The Object of Legend
Shouldn't you have to look at ALL the entries to a challenge before voting in order to be fair? So many of them are buried and aren't distinguished in their titles, we NEED a thread for posting entries!

Make one. :P Call me lazy.
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| May 28, 2013, 4:45 pm
 Group admin 
Okay, right away. Also I updated my comment above.
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| May 28, 2013, 4:48 pm
Quoting The Object of Legend
Okay, right away. Also I updated my comment above.

Thanks for doing that. We should probably make sure everyone gets informed.
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| May 28, 2013, 5:03 pm
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Quoting Yapdap of Rainos
Thanks for doing that. We should probably make sure everyone gets informed.
Yes, I'm working on that.

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| May 28, 2013, 5:07 pm
Keep the Pirate faction. Don't change because Vikings are basically barbarians....
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| May 28, 2013, 5:09 pm
Quoting (SWGO) Josh O.
Keep the Pirate faction. Don't change because Vikings are basically barbarians....

Just kill all of the outlaws ;D
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| May 28, 2013, 5:11 pm
Quoting (SWGO) Josh O.
Keep the Pirate faction. Don't change because Vikings are basically barbarians....

Quoting Freeling + + (Currently On A Short Vacation)

At the moment I hardly see a point in keeping the pirates. They look weird running around inland, hardly anyone is in that faction, and most of the plot skips them over. If they're going to survive, they need a story and a purpose.
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| May 28, 2013, 7:51 pm
Quoting Gilbert Despathens
Quoting Freeling + + (Currently On A Short Vacation)

At the moment I hardly see a point in keeping the pirates. They look weird running around inland, hardly anyone is in that faction, and most of the plot skips them over. If they're going to survive, they need a story and a purpose.

I agree. I am a pirate, but I would not mind if it was changed to Viking, or maybe something else like wizard or something...

But pirates are really cool, no matter what. :P
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| May 28, 2013, 8:01 pm
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Quoting Yapdap of Rainos
Just kill all of the outlaws ;D

I think you are confused with the word outlaws in this sense. The description given to them is clearly not only those who broke the law or did some bad things. Outlaws range from on the run for their crimes, to people betrayed by once-trusted people of Mythron. Since the outbreak of the war, people don't know what to do since they've run into conflict. Outlaws used to just be people who were on the run, now we have people who aren't connected to Mythron or the Outlaws in any way except that they are not Mythron, Rainos, or Pirates.
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| May 28, 2013, 8:08 pm
We should change outlaws to something less popular so things will even out. Maybe pony keeper will do... :P
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| May 28, 2013, 8:29 pm
Quoting David the Fire Ninja Jedi
I think you are confused with the word outlaws in this sense. The description given to them is clearly not only those who broke the law or did some bad things. Outlaws range from on the run for their crimes, to people betrayed by once-trusted people of Mythron. Since the outbreak of the war, people don't know what to do since they've run into conflict. Outlaws used to just be people who were on the run, now we have people who aren't connected to Mythron or the Outlaws in any way except that they are not Mythron, Rainos, or Pirates.

I know, but the story is supposed to be about a civil war not a bunch of random people running around in the forest, no offense to the outlaws. I just think we need more balance. Maybe I'll make some propaganda.
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| May 28, 2013, 9:01 pm
Quoting Netro .
We should change outlaws to something less popular so things will even out. Maybe pony keeper will do... :P

Maybe just flat out ban new members from joining that faction until the ratio of players in each faction is more even..
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| May 29, 2013, 12:21 am
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Quoting Justin L.
Maybe just flat out ban new members from joining that faction until the ratio of players in each faction is more even..

... I don't think so.
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| May 29, 2013, 1:21 am
 Group admin 
If this group crashes... Just blame Brick Boy. Because he's in charge for the week I'm gone.
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| May 29, 2013, 1:24 am
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Keep the pirates! And we can't just change them to Vikings. Vikings are of the north pirates are everywhere, if you must have have they should be part of the pirate faction.
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| May 29, 2013, 6:06 am
Quoting The Object of Legend
Keep the pirates! And we can't just change them to Vikings. Vikings are of the north pirates are everywhere, if you must have have they should be part of the pirate faction.

But Vikings are also the stereotypical barbarians, and pirates could be counted as a type of outlaw.
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| May 29, 2013, 10:45 am
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Quoting Yapdap of Rainos
I know, but the story is supposed to be about a civil war not a bunch of random people running around in the forest, no offense to the outlaws. I just think we need more balance. Maybe I'll make some propaganda.

Persuasion sounds good. Right now (according to my character's story), outlaws seems to be the way to go since there is confusion from the big battle and people not handling it well....I'm waiting for strong leaders, right now I don't see any. I tried to help, but I was shut down; so I left.
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| May 29, 2013, 10:52 am
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Quoting Netro .
We should change outlaws to something less popular so things will even out. Maybe pony keeper will do... :P

I think the Kings of Mythron should join together and do something to bring back the people they lost (in people's character intro stories). Rainos should do the same.
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| May 29, 2013, 10:53 am
Quoting David the Fire Ninja Jedi
I think the Kings of Mythron should join together and do something to bring back the people they lost (in people's character intro stories). Rainos should do the same.


Or maybe the outlaws can be bribed to join either Mythron or Rainos.
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| May 29, 2013, 11:10 am
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Quoting Owslafa Jones

Or maybe the outlaws can be bribed to join either Mythron or Rainos.

Eh, this elf doesn't accept bribes. . .
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| May 29, 2013, 11:15 am
Quoting David the Fire Ninja Jedi
Eh, this elf doesn't accept bribes. . .


How about... a bribe of free cake for the next 26 years? (Assuming elves eat cake)

Maybe a group advertising topic would be in order.
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| May 29, 2013, 11:23 am
 Group admin 
Quoting Owslafa Jones

How about... a bribe of free cake for the next 26 years? (Assuming elves eat cake)

Maybe a group advertising topic would be in order.
No bribes period.

Not an advertising topic, a recruitment or something...

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| May 29, 2013, 11:28 am
Quoting David the Fire Ninja Jedi
Quoting Owslafa Jones

How about... a bribe of free cake for the next 26 years? (Assuming elves eat cake)

Maybe a group advertising topic would be in order.
No bribes period.

Not an advertising topic, a recruitment or something...

Would each faction have their own recruitment topic, or would there only be one? The latter seems to be the better option.
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| May 29, 2013, 11:51 am
 Group admin 
I think one. . . or maybe two, one for Mythron, one for Rainos.
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| May 29, 2013, 11:54 am
 Group admin 
Quoting David the Fire Ninja Jedi
I think one. . . or maybe two, one for Mythron, one for Rainos.
I say just one topic for all three, Pirates need more members too.

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| May 29, 2013, 12:34 pm
Quoting Owslafa Jones

Or maybe the outlaws can be bribed to join either Mythron or Rainos.


Vaun Cornet will never join the corrupt Mythronia.
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| May 29, 2013, 12:46 pm
Quoting ~ McLegofreak

Vaun Cornet will never join the corrupt Mythronia.


Would he join Rainos to ensure the defeat of Mythron?

If the pirate faction could also use recruits, then we should probably make the topic.
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| May 29, 2013, 1:18 pm
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Quoting Owslafa Jones If the pirate faction could also use recruits, then we should probably make the topic.
I will ask if it is okay to make the recruitment topic in the other thread.
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| May 29, 2013, 1:36 pm
Quoting Freeling ++ (Currently On A Short Vacation)
If this group crashes... Just blame Brick Boy. Because he's in charge for the week I'm gone.

Now why would you leave him in charge :P ( JK Brickboy ):P
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| May 29, 2013, 2:18 pm
So what if many join outlaws. In LCC everyone joins Loreos and that is a success.
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| May 29, 2013, 2:24 pm
Quoting (SWGO) Josh O.
So what if many join outlaws. In LCC everyone joins Loreos and that is a success.


What it LCC any way?
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| May 29, 2013, 2:29 pm
Quoting Owslafa Jones

Would he join Rainos to ensure the defeat of Mythron?

If the pirate faction could also use recruits, then we should probably make the topic.


I thought the outlaws were going to attack Rainos?
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| May 29, 2013, 2:30 pm
 Group admin 
Quoting The Object of Legend
Quoting David the Fire Ninja Jedi
I think one. . . or maybe two, one for Mythron, one for Rainos.
I say just one topic for all three, Pirates need more members too.

Good point
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| May 29, 2013, 2:39 pm
Quoting ~ McLegofreak

What it LCC any way?


I agree. Were both lost.
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| May 29, 2013, 2:52 pm
Quoting Owslafa Jones
Would each faction have their own recruitment topic, or would there only be one? The latter seems to be the better option.

Mythron Propoganda: We're the good guys.
Rainos Propoganda: Mythron lies. WE'RE the good guys.
Pirate Propoganda: RUM!
Outlaw Propoganda: Where everybody else goes.
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| May 29, 2013, 3:10 pm
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Quoting The Brick King

I agree. Were both lost.

LCC is Lands of Classic Castle. A huge RPG thing that has been going on for at least 2 years now. It is highly organized, and people kinda have their own stories that don't affect anyone but themselves in their own MOCs, and they have challenges here and there so your faction "wins"

They also have guilds where you can build certain things and gain a status of a guild master.

You can't change factions there, and there are certain requirements for most of your MOCs.

You also have personal points

It's on another site and you put links to where your pictures are.


I chose this one since it's already on MOCpages, people I know are here, and I joined from the beginning of the story.

There are things like these good RPGs on Bricksomething, Lands of Classic Castle, and now MOCpages! Let's get this thing well known!
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| May 29, 2013, 3:44 pm
Quoting Justin L.
Mythron Propoganda: We're the good guys.
Rainos Propoganda: Screw the good guys, we're the bad guys.
Pirate Propoganda: RUM!
Outlaw Propoganda: Mythron, Rainos, and Pirates get nothing done. Comere.

Genius. On another note, and I'm not picking you out, but everyone always thinks in terms of good and bad. In truth the "bad" guys think they're the good guys.
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| May 29, 2013, 4:31 pm
Quoting Yapdap of Rainos
Genius. On another note, and I'm not picking you out, but everyone always thinks in terms of good and bad. In truth the "bad" guys think they're the good guys.

Edited. :D
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| May 29, 2013, 5:34 pm
Quoting Justin L.
Edited. :D

Nice ;D
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| May 29, 2013, 5:38 pm
Quoting Simon S.
I think it's definitely time that we have strong leaders (as said above) for each factions and also topic for it.

Hear, hear! Or here, here, possibly.
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| May 30, 2013, 12:20 am
 Group admin 
We need more active admins and more in general, questions and requests are backing up and theirs no one to look at them.
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| May 31, 2013, 9:41 am
Quoting The Object of Legend
We need more active admins and more in general, questions and requests are backing up and theirs no one to look at them.

Actually, there are only two issues: the number of outlaws and the creation of conversation threads for each faction. They are tough issues, so give the admins time.
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| May 31, 2013, 1:04 pm
 Group admin 
I have one HUGE suggestion that should help with the number of outlaws. (let me know what you think) Nothing has to be decided urgently, just something to think about for the future.

The answer is this:
Neurogue

Since we kinda have a "good" and "bad" side to Mythron, I'd like to help make it so that there isn't a good or bad, this way people won't feel like they are on a "wrong side" kind of like Lands of Classic Castle, there is no "correct side" (that I'm not a part of).

I hope that this will fit in sometime in the future (I know you have things planned).
Some of the outlaws (I don't know when, maybe after a Universal challenge, or a Universal challenge itself) move and attack the city of Tomeu that's kinda out of the way on the map (Tomeu hasn't been claimed yet, I hope it doesn't get claimed. If this attack happens and you approve and implement the new faction, I'd like to claim it as part of Neurogue).

They succeed since no one is in charge there, and they form the Land of Neurogue. They then proceed to try and make more cities as their numbers grow. (I was thinking that since the map isn't finished, Mythron could expand so that it doesn't look like an island on the right side of the map)

Tomeu becomes the capital city of Nerogue (for now, until they make a better city). They don't have a king, but they have a strong ruler (hopefully me, since I'd like to claim Tomeu when I'm done with being an outlaw, assuming no one reads this and then decides to claim Tomeu so that this doesn't happen), later they will have a King (not me, I'll just be the faction overseer, not a king, kind of like the High King of Mythron isn't played by anyone, but Brick Boy is the Mythron overseer).

When Nerogue gets colors, they would be Red, Green, and Black. The builds in this faction aren't set as Mythron or Rainos, they are more of a mix (since people of all come together here).


I hope you consider this option and think about what was mentioned at the top so that there isn't a "right or wrong" faction to select.



~David the Fire Ninja Jedi

For Nerogue!
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| May 31, 2013, 1:54 pm
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Quoting David the Fire Ninja Jedi
For Nerogue!

Excellent and well said idea! We'll discuss such things in the Admin And MOD group....And I think you'd make a fine overseer;D
I do have to disagree that no side should be bad.
Rainos people aren't criminals, just barbarians. (and history tells us they weren't you pleasant)

~LOM Admins
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| May 31, 2013, 2:30 pm
Quoting Brick Boy
Excellent and well said idea! We'll discuss such things in the Admin And MOD group....And I think you'd make a fine overseer;D
I do have to disagree that no side should be bad.
Rainos people aren't criminals, just barbarians. (and history tells us they weren't you pleasant)

~LOM Admins

Quoting David: So you're saying that the Neurouge guys will replace the outlaws? I agree, this is a great idea. As I stated before, the "bad" guys think that they're the good guys.
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| May 31, 2013, 3:10 pm
Quoting Brick Boy
Excellent and well said idea! We'll discuss such things in the Admin And MOD group....And I think you'd make a fine overseer;D
I do have to disagree that no side should be bad.
Rainos people aren't criminals, just barbarians. (and history tells us they weren't you pleasant)

~LOM Admins



ahh my friend that depends how you look at it we are pleasant enough in a docile state and when we aren't at war also to us you are the ones who are barbaric
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| May 31, 2013, 3:15 pm
Quoting David the Fire Ninja Jedi
The answer is this:
Neurogue
For Nerogue!

It's a good idea to have a base for the outlaws, but not a kingdom. The reason the outlaw faction is so popular is the fact that none of the members owe allegiance to anybody; they act on their own.
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| May 31, 2013, 5:30 pm
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Quoting Yapdap of Rainos
Quoting David: So you're saying that the Neurouge guys will replace the outlaws? I agree, this is a great idea. As I stated before, the "bad" guys think that they're the good guys.

Not replace the outlaws, some outlaws would probably join Neurouge thus making the outlaw faction (no connection to anyone) a little smaller.
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| May 31, 2013, 5:42 pm
Quoting David the Fire Ninja Jedi
Not replace the outlaws, some outlaws would probably join Neurouge thus making the outlaw faction (no connection to anyone) a little smaller.

That would be pretty awesome, although I still think more people should join the two main sides.
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| May 31, 2013, 5:44 pm
Okay, this is a suggestion if it's not already a rule, but can the judges of competitions look at all of the entries? I know mine doesn't have a main pic, and that's really bad for advertisement...
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| May 31, 2013, 5:47 pm
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Quoting Gilbert Despathens
It's a good idea to have a base for the outlaws, but not a kingdom. The reason the outlaw faction is so popular is the fact that none of the members owe allegiance to anybody; they act on their own.

It wouldn't quite be a kingdom like the powerful Mythrons or Rainosians. Instead, it's like this:
We aren't outlaws, but we don't fit in the other categories well either, we'll make our own. This faction would be in between the building style of the outlaws, which is pretty much anything, and Mythrons and Rainosians.

I think I'm not the only one who thought this:
"Well, I'm not going to be a Pirate, Rainosian, or a Mythron, so I guess that leaves me with the outlaws."

The outlaws kinda have two categories: true outlaws and those who "left" Mythron. So my suggestion is to "split" them up - one being more settled than the rest (they should have a base of their own as well).

Here is the Nerogue thinking:
I don't like what Rainos did, and I don't think Mythron can bring the land back together anymore.
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| May 31, 2013, 5:50 pm
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Quoting Yapdap of Rainos
That would be pretty awesome, although I still think more people should join the two main sides.

I do too....There needs to be more encouragement though....

I don't know about you, but me writing that whole thing about Nerogue makes me want to join XD

I mean, it's definitely appealing to join Nerogue... the other two factions need to step it up a bit in order to get more members! ;)
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| May 31, 2013, 5:59 pm
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Quoting David the Fire Ninja Jedi
Very interesting but I'm not convinced about this new faction, I'll remain neutral on the matter. Mythron and Rainos were supposed to be the main factions.
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| May 31, 2013, 6:35 pm
Quoting David the Fire Ninja Jedi
I do too....There needs to be more encouragement though....

I don't know about you, but me writing that whole thing about Nerogue makes me want to join XD

I mean, it's definitely appealing to join Nerogue... the other two factions need to step it up a bit in order to get more members! ;)

Other two factions? Ouch, pirates...
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| May 31, 2013, 7:05 pm
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Quoting Gilbert Despathens
Other two factions? Ouch, pirates...

I was replying to a comment that was addressing the "two main sides" of Mythron, I was fully aware of the pirates, no worries :D
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| May 31, 2013, 7:12 pm
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Quoting The Object of Legend
Quoting David the Fire Ninja Jedi
Very interesting but I'm not convinced about this new faction, I'll remain neutral on the matter. Mythron and Rainos were supposed to be the main factions.

Definitely! They are and will always be the two main ones.
I thought of this as well:
The Pirates would (I assume) tend to be more on the side of Rainos, but still separate, the Nerogue would tend to be more on the side of Mythron, but still separate. The only thing you can predict about the outlaws is their unpredictability.

I'm not sure if Nerogue will ever exist in Mythron, but we'll see.
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| May 31, 2013, 7:15 pm
Quoting David the Fire Ninja Jedi
I do too....There needs to be more encouragement though....

I don't know about you, but me writing that whole thing about Nerogue makes me want to join XD

I mean, it's definitely appealing to join Nerogue... the other two factions need to step it up a bit in order to get more members! ;)

The funny thing, I think, is that everyone loves the rebels, until the rebels are "evil" (speaking of Rainos). So then they go to the rebel rebels, who don't seem to have any association with "good" or "evil". Psychology is interesting. I think that it would help advertising if the few people in Rainos and Mythron had a contest in propaganda making, but it's completely up to the admins/moderators.
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| May 31, 2013, 8:04 pm
Quoting David the Fire Ninja Jedi
I have one HUGE suggestion that should help with the number of outlaws. (let me know what you think) Nothing has to be decided urgently, just something to think about for the future.

The answer is this:
Neurogue

Since we kinda have a "good" and "bad" side to Mythron, I'd like to help make it so that there isn't a good or bad, this way people won't feel like they are on a "wrong side" kind of like Lands of Classic Castle, there is no "correct side" (that I'm not a part of).

I hope that this will fit in sometime in the future (I know you have things planned).
Some of the outlaws (I don't know when, maybe after a Universal challenge, or a Universal challenge itself) move and attack the city of Tomeu that's kinda out of the way on the map (Tomeu hasn't been claimed yet, I hope it doesn't get claimed. If this attack happens and you approve and implement the new faction, I'd like to claim it as part of Neurogue).

They succeed since no one is in charge there, and they form the Land of Neurogue. They then proceed to try and make more cities as their numbers grow. (I was thinking that since the map isn't finished, Mythron could expand so that it doesn't look like an island on the right side of the map)

Tomeu becomes the capital city of Nerogue (for now, until they make a better city). They don't have a king, but they have a strong ruler (hopefully me, since I'd like to claim Tomeu when I'm done with being an outlaw, assuming no one reads this and then decides to claim Tomeu so that this doesn't happen), later they will have a King (not me, I'll just be the faction overseer, not a king, kind of like the High King of Mythron isn't played by anyone, but Brick Boy is the Mythron overseer).

When Nerogue gets colors, they would be Red, Green, and Black. The builds in this faction aren't set as Mythron or Rainos, they are more of a mix (since people of all come together here).


I hope you consider this option and think about what was mentioned at the top so that there isn't a "right or wrong" faction to select.



~David the Fire Ninja Jedi




This is a great idea! Right now though, I think the factions we have right now are plenty. Each faction just needs more checks and balances so some will be more appealing to a group A of people and some will be more appealing to a group B. For example...(this is all based on observations, I'm not sure what Freeling actually has in mind)

Mythron: The "original" country, considers themselves to be benevolent. Strict when it comes to right/wrong, cracks down on "evil" hard.

Rainos: Sees themselves as freedom fighters against an oppressive Mythron. Tends to be more "ends justify the means".

Pirates: Ruthless and lawless. Two main goals in life are getting more rum and getting more money. Also believes in "ends justify the means".

Outlaws: As ruthless and lawless as the pirates, but less wild. Sort of like "civilized criminals". Usually doesn't have a loyalty to any specific faction; just does what is necessary to survive.
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| May 31, 2013, 9:33 pm
I don't think there should be a separate thread for each challenge, maybe just a "Universal Challenge Thread + Seperate Entry Thread", "Regional Challenge Thread + Seperate Entry Thread", and "Rogue Challenge Thread + Seperate Entry Thread", because in a few months there will be way too many topics in this group and it will be hard to navigate around the "Conversation" tab.
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| June 2, 2013, 12:24 am
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Quoting David the Fire Ninja Jedi
Definitely! They are and will always be the two main ones.
I thought of this as well:
The Pirates would (I assume) tend to be more on the side of Rainos, but still separate, the Nerogue would tend to be more on the side of Mythron, but still separate. The only thing you can predict about the outlaws is their unpredictability.

I'm not sure if Nerogue will ever exist in Mythron, but we'll see.
Okay, that would be nice.
I would also like to see the Pirates become a bit stronger, here's an idea I have for them.

There will be a main group of pirates known as the Barons who used to control most of islands and some coastline. However they were greatly weakened in the battle of Blood Bay (This is mentioned throughout the story of Sozo) and numerous rogue pirates are now sharing the seas. The Barons seek reestablish their ocean empire.
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| June 2, 2013, 6:33 am
Quoting Justin L.
I don't think there should be a separate thread for each challenge, maybe just a "Universal Challenge Thread + Seperate Entry Thread", "Regional Challenge Thread + Seperate Entry Thread", and "Rogue Challenge Thread + Seperate Entry Thread", because in a few months there will be way too many topics in this group and it will be hard to navigate around the "Conversation" tab.

I don't think it's that much of a problem, because old, abandoned threads sink to the bottom and the admins can delete some if they have to. Placing multiple challenges on one thread would mean an awful lot of scrolling, though.
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| June 2, 2013, 8:17 am
Quoting Gilbert Despathens
I don't think it's that much of a problem, because old, abandoned threads sink to the bottom and the admins can delete some if they have to. Placing multiple challenges on one thread would mean an awful lot of scrolling, though.

We don't need an overall thread. It's better to have specific ones.
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| June 2, 2013, 8:25 am
We need a judges panel for challenges, to make sure that everyone gets a fair chance. Me and a few others know that not all of the group members that voted commented or even bothered to look at our entries. To go in depth with the actual voting process, judges should have criteria like creativity, etc. All who agree with me, feel free to comment below.
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| June 2, 2013, 9:49 pm
Quoting Yapdap of Rainos
We need a judges panel for challenges, to make sure that everyone gets a fair chance. Me and a few others know that not all of the group members that voted commented or even bothered to look at our entries. To go in depth with the actual voting process, judges should have criteria like creativity, etc. All who agree with me, feel free to comment below.

I second Yapdap's motion. Most of us probably have looked at all of the entries to the Regional Challenge, but some of us may not have time to do so. It will be much easier for everyone if there is a judging panel to do the work.
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| June 2, 2013, 10:42 pm
Quoting Yapdap of Rainos
We need a judges panel for challenges, to make sure that everyone gets a fair chance. Me and a few others know that not all of the group members that voted commented or even bothered to look at our entries. To go in depth with the actual voting process, judges should have criteria like creativity, etc. All who agree with me, feel free to comment below.


I agree. It's asking a little bit too much of voters to have them comment on every entry when they're only going to choose one. Having judges would be a more efficient way of selecting a winner.
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| June 3, 2013, 11:05 am
Quoting Yapdap of Rainos
We need a judges panel for challenges, to make sure that everyone gets a fair chance. Me and a few others know that not all of the group members that voted commented or even bothered to look at our entries. To go in depth with the actual voting process, judges should have criteria like creativity, etc. All who agree with me, feel free to comment below.

Wonderful plot. Democracy is such a messy system.
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| June 3, 2013, 11:30 am
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Okay, I thing I'll take this one problem at a time. First. Okay, Simon S. Is the factional Leader for Outlaws. Brick Boy is the Factional leader for Mythron. ... Any volunteers for Rainos and the Pirates? Must have good grammar...
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| June 3, 2013, 12:16 pm
Quoting Freeling ++ (Currently On A Short Vacation)
Okay, I thing I'll take this one problem at a time. First. Okay, Simon S. Is the factional Leader for Outlaws. Brick Boy is the Factional leader for Mythron. ... Any volunteers for Rainos and the Pirates? Must have good grammar...

I will take Rainos! My English is perfect.
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| June 3, 2013, 12:22 pm
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Quoting Gilbert Despathens
I will take Rainos! My English is perfect.

I thought you were a Pirate?
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| June 3, 2013, 12:23 pm
Quoting Freeling ++ (Currently On A Short Vacation)
I thought you were a Pirate?

No, my character is in the official navy.
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| June 3, 2013, 12:24 pm
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Quoting Gilbert Despathens
I will take Rainos! My English is perfect.

I just shot you an invite to LOM Admin and Mod discussions.
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| June 3, 2013, 12:27 pm
Quoting Freeling ++ (Currently On A Short Vacation)
I just shot you an invite to LOM Admin and Mod discussions.

Thank you, my liege.
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| June 3, 2013, 12:29 pm
There seems to be a lot of debate on how voting for challenges should work, so here's my take: Democracy is good, but it is too unreliable online. Judging is good as well, but may not necessarily represent the opinions of the people. So have a compromise:

Each month, a new panel of 5 (this number can change) active members is chosen to judge. A member can judge more than once, but NEVER twice in a row. For example: Player X can judge in June and August, but not June and July.

These 5 members will judge each entry on a score of 1-10 (whole numbers only). They will NOT judge their own entries. Because the judges will be at a disadvantage (they only get 4 scores because they cannot judge their own entries), the average of the 4 scores from the other judges on their entry will be added. For example: if a judge gets a combined total of 32 from the other judges, then 8 will be added to that to make 40 (because 32 + [32/4]) = 40).

The judges will keep track of the scores they themselves have put on peoples MOC's on NotePad, Microsoft Word, etc.

When all judges have finished judging, then the scores will be added up, and the participant at the top wins.

With this system, it will be impossible for any creation to go unnoticed, and it will be fairly democratic since the judges are changed every month.

Yay for compromises. ^_^
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| June 3, 2013, 1:01 pm
Quoting Justin L.
There seems to be a lot of debate on how voting for challenges should work, so here's my take: Democracy is good, but it is too unreliable online. Judging is good as well, but may not necessarily represent the opinions of the people. So have a compromise:

Each month, a new panel of 5 (this number can change) active members is chosen to judge. A member can judge more than once, but NEVER twice in a row. For example: Player X can judge in June and August, but not June and July.

These 5 members will judge each entry on a score of 1-10 (whole numbers only). They will NOT judge their own entries. Because the judges will be at a disadvantage (they only get 4 scores because they cannot judge their own entries), the average of the 4 scores from the other judges on their entry will be added. For example: if a judge gets a combined total of 32 from the other judges, then 8 will be added to that to make 40 (because 32 + [32/4]) = 40).

The judges will keep track of the scores they themselves have put on peoples MOC's on NotePad, Microsoft Word, etc.

When all judges have finished judging, then the scores will be added up, and the participant at the top wins.

With this system, it will be impossible for any creation to go unnoticed, and it will be fairly democratic since the judges are changed every month.

Yay for compromises. ^_^

Too much work.
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| June 3, 2013, 1:51 pm
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Quoting Justin L.
There seems to be a lot of debate on how voting for challenges should work, so here's my take: Democracy is good, but it is too unreliable online. Judging is good as well, but may not necessarily represent the opinions of the people. So have a compromise:

Each month, a new panel of 5 (this number can change) active members is chosen to judge. A member can judge more than once, but NEVER twice in a row. For example: Player X can judge in June and August, but not June and July.

These 5 members will judge each entry on a score of 1-10 (whole numbers only). They will NOT judge their own entries. Because the judges will be at a disadvantage (they only get 4 scores because they cannot judge their own entries), the average of the 4 scores from the other judges on their entry will be added. For example: if a judge gets a combined total of 32 from the other judges, then 8 will be added to that to make 40 (because 32 + [32/4]) = 40).

The judges will keep track of the scores they themselves have put on peoples MOC's on NotePad, Microsoft Word, etc.

When all judges have finished judging, then the scores will be added up, and the participant at the top wins.

With this system, it will be impossible for any creation to go unnoticed, and it will be fairly democratic since the judges are changed every month.

Yay for compromises. ^_^

I like this.
It wouldn't be too much work if people volunteer for that month instead of just picking active people - that way the admins know they can rely on them more.
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| June 3, 2013, 1:56 pm
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Quoting The Object of Legend
Quoting David the Fire Ninja Jedi
Definitely! They are and will always be the two main ones.
I thought of this as well:
The Pirates would (I assume) tend to be more on the side of Rainos, but still separate, the Nerogue would tend to be more on the side of Mythron, but still separate. The only thing you can predict about the outlaws is their unpredictability.

I'm not sure if Nerogue will ever exist in Mythron, but we'll see.
Okay, that would be nice.
I would also like to see the Pirates become a bit stronger, here's an idea I have for them.

There will be a main group of pirates known as the Barons who used to control most of islands and some coastline. However they were greatly weakened in the battle of Blood Bay (This is mentioned throughout the story of Sozo) and numerous rogue pirates are now sharing the seas. The Barons seek reestablish their ocean empire.
Nice

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| June 3, 2013, 1:58 pm
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Quoting Simon S.
Voting vs. Judges is always difficult to decide. Most people vote at the first view, which isn't bad (e.g. build with cool colours get more attention than just grey castles), but smaller details don't get any attention in it. Not to forget if you vote, then you have some very different points of view, which can help to get a fairer result. The other point, judging, is just based on the opinion of three of maybe four admins, who looked a little bit longer at the build and recognised the details, the problem is that it's way to subjective. So I think as long as there aren't any prices, voting is ok. But when we give out prices (when the group gets bigger that would be pretty cool), then the winner should be chosen by judges.
Just my two cents ;).
Well said

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| June 3, 2013, 1:59 pm
Quoting Gilbert Despathens
Too much work.


Lol, the average can be calculated fairly easily, if that's what you meant/weren't being sarcastic. I'm decent at math things so I could take care of the score checking...but...FREELING GET OVER HERE
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| June 3, 2013, 2:22 pm
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Quoting Freeling ++

What do you think about the Nerogue idea?
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| June 5, 2013, 10:35 pm
Quoting The Object of Legend

I'm not sure if Nerogue will ever exist in Mythron, but we'll see.
Okay, that would be nice.
I would also like to see the Pirates become a bit stronger, here's an idea I have for them.

There will be a main group of pirates known as the Barons who used to control most of islands and some coastline. However they were greatly weakened in the battle of Blood Bay (This is mentioned throughout the story of Sozo) and numerous rogue pirates are now sharing the seas. The Barons seek reestablish their ocean empire.
No the pirates are already pirates and that's what they will be. For people inside the Pirate Faction they can make up their own lore. The pirate people can decide if they want the new group, but I don't think that they should be given their own faction. It's kinda like saying that if there are multiple areas of knights in the mythronian faction, that they should get their own faction. Which should not be how this group works it would become a cluttered mess, and new members wouldn't know what's going on. The best option you have is to have a guild, and make up some lore for that, but really, no other choice :)
Hope I helped some!
-Arnas
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| June 6, 2013, 11:55 am
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Quoting David the Fire Ninja Jedi
What do you think about the Nerogue idea?

Sounds interesting. But if they're an Outlaw, but not entirely bad, why not just join Mythron? After all, there's about to be a new king.
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| June 6, 2013, 12:56 pm
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Quoting Justin L.

Lol, the average can be calculated fairly easily, if that's what you meant/weren't being sarcastic. I'm decent at math things so I could take care of the score checking...but...FREELING GET OVER HERE

~.~ Or I could just post all of the links in the Judging topic and say "Choose carefully before you judge"
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| June 6, 2013, 12:59 pm
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Quoting Arnas Scheel
Calm down. I was just saying these pirates (Now known as the Royals) are out there. They are still just pirates not a new faction.

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| June 6, 2013, 1:42 pm
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Quoting Freeling ++ (Currently On A Short Vacation)
Sounds interesting. But if they're an Outlaw, but not entirely bad, why not just join Mythron? After all, there's about to be a new king.

I guess because the builds are suppose to have more of a castley feel to it.... I think some members (including me) feel like it's narrowing the building experience.
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| June 6, 2013, 4:22 pm
Quoting David the Fire Ninja Jedi
I guess because the builds are suppose to have more of a castley feel to it.... I think some members (including me) feel like it's narrowing the building experience.
my builds don't have a castley feel about them but I'm still a mythron.

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| June 9, 2013, 10:17 am
Quoting David the Fire Ninja Jedi
I guess because the builds are suppose to have more of a castley feel to it.... I think some members (including me) feel like it's narrowing the building experience.

I think that means that the castles have a castle-y feel to them.
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| June 9, 2013, 10:43 am
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Quoting Arnas Scheel
Quoting David the Fire Ninja Jedi
I guess because the builds are suppose to have more of a castley feel to it.... I think some members (including me) feel like it's narrowing the building experience.
my builds don't have a castley feel about them but I'm still a mythron.

Yeah, but I think that people from the outlaws would switch to Nerogue, not Mythron. We were talking about how many outlaws there are. The pirates side with Rainos mostly, and Nerogue would side with Mythron usually. I think having the in between one would cut down on the outlaws because it isn't Mythron or Rainos, but it appeals to them because pirates and Rainos seem like the "bad guys" and Nerogue "good guys."

It also helps that Freeling is an outlaw.

I think have a place where people could discuss Nerogue like you did for Vikings, but not necessarily make a change.

Just my suggestion.
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| June 10, 2013, 10:01 am
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Quoting David the Fire Ninja Jedi


I think have a place where people could discuss Nerogue like you did for Vikings, but not necessarily make a change.

Just my suggestion.

Go ahead and open the topic if you wish. See how many supporters you get. Don't forget to explain what nerogue is.
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| June 10, 2013, 11:58 am
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Quoting Freeling ++
Go ahead and open the topic if you wish. See how many supporters you get. Don't forget to explain what nerogue is.

Okay, thanks! I'll make it once I'm on my computer :)
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| June 10, 2013, 1:33 pm
Could someone try to make the points blog a bit easier to navigate and cleaner? At the moment, it is all over the place and hard to read. Also, on the blog, the scores are all wrong because the intro points are scored as two when they are supposed to be five.
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| June 15, 2013, 1:01 pm
Quoting Rogue Spartan
Could someone try to make the points blog a bit easier to navigate and cleaner? At the moment, it is all over the place and hard to read. Also, on the blog, the scores are all wrong because the intro points are scored as two when they are supposed to be five.

I understand what you want. Unfortunately, there are some issues in the way. First, until someone finds where it says that intros are worth five points, I have to count them as two. Second, blogger does not allow authors to use enter to create spaces, which makes long lists untidy. I have done my best with the MOC List post, so I have three suggestions for you if you want it to shape up:
-Find where Freeling said that introductions are worth five points.
-Play around with Blogger until you get a format that meets your standards of cleanliness, or
-Copy the relevant information off of the MOC list and put it into a comment on the Points of the People thread in an orderly list and I can see if Brick Boy will use it to edit his points comment at the top of the page.
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| June 15, 2013, 1:49 pm
Quoting Gilbert Despathens
I understand what you want. Unfortunately, there are some issues in the way. First, until someone finds where it says that intros are worth five points, I have to count them as two. Second, blogger does not allow authors to use enter to create spaces, which makes long lists untidy. I have done my best with the MOC List post, so I have three suggestions for you if you want it to shape up:
-Find where Freeling said that introductions are worth five points.
-Play around with Blogger until you get a format that meets your standards of cleanliness, or
-Copy the relevant information off of the MOC list and put it into a comment on the Points of the People thread in an orderly list and I can see if Brick Boy will use it to edit his points comment at the top of the page.


Quoting Lands of Mythron Homepage
---Scoring---
Character intro's will grant you 5 points.

Universal & Regional Challenge: Entering grants you 5 points. Winning Grants you 10.

Completing a sovereign challenge will grant you 4 points.

Joining an Rogue challenge Grants you 8 points.

Free builds will grant you 2 points.
-- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- --


The lower quote contains the complete scoring rules copy and pasted from the LoM Homepage onto this comment. If you want to take an official look at the homepage to make sure I didn't make it up, it is located just above the "positions of power" section at the very bottom of the homepage. I understand if you are unable to make the blog look better. Are you able to make text move toward the bottom of the page if you add enough spaces? I'm not entirely sure it will work, though.
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| June 15, 2013, 5:17 pm
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Quoting Rogue Spartan

He got it fixed now :)
See his post in the Points of the People thread.
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| June 15, 2013, 5:34 pm
Quoting Rogue Spartan

I've corrected the scores but I think I will leave the blog messy. It was always intended to be a resource for updating the thread here, anyway. Thanks.
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| June 15, 2013, 8:09 pm
Does anyone have any idea when the faction threads are going up (no, I will not over-do it like last time...)?
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| June 18, 2013, 11:41 pm
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Quoting Rogue Spartan
Does anyone have any idea when the faction threads are going up (no, I will not over-do it like last time...)?

Today/tomorrow I just need a slight okay from my Colleagues ;) before I open the thread.
-Brick Boy
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| June 19, 2013, 6:10 am
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Quoting Rogue Spartan
Does anyone have any idea when the faction threads are going up (no, I will not over-do it like last time...)?
Yes, they should be ready before the deadline for the current Universal Challenge (July 10th).

Don't worry, we are working on the last thread :)

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| June 20, 2013, 3:05 pm
Has anyone considered a simple judging basis for freebuild points? Maybe just a score of 1 to 4, and that's how many points you get... that way members are encouraged for quality over quanity. :D
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| September 2, 2013, 6:17 pm
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Quoting Toa Infernum
Has anyone considered a simple judging basis for freebuild points? Maybe just a score of 1 to 4, and that's how many points you get... that way members are encouraged for quality over quanity. :D

That's just too much work :/ we do enough already as it is. Though we have decided if a MOC is just quite bad, we would remove it from the group and not allow any points for it.

I myself have considered only allowing 2 free builds per month...we might do that. I don't know.


EDIT: I actually like 5 :D
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| September 2, 2013, 7:05 pm
Quoting Toa Infernum
Has anyone considered a simple judging basis for freebuild points? Maybe just a score of 1 to 4, and that's how many points you get... that way members are encouraged for quality over quanity. :D

That's an interesting idea, but it also sounds like too much work. Some MOCers will always post large and complicated MOCs that receive the same points as someone else's five-minute vig, but we can only catch those that blatantly try to farm points because sometimes they look the same as those by people who don't have the parts or experience to do better.
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| September 2, 2013, 7:11 pm
Quoting Gilbert Despathens
too much work.

I agree, but I don't know what else would work. I don't like the idea of a limit on freebuilds...
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| September 2, 2013, 8:00 pm
Quoting Toa Infernum
I agree, but I don't know what else would work. I don't like the idea of a limit on freebuilds...

I'll ask Freeling about it.
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| September 2, 2013, 8:05 pm
Quoting Freeling ++
Any Ideas on how to make this group better? State them below!

What was the reason for a limit on free builds? The five-per-month restriction has been challenged a couple times.
No one's reached the limit yet, but an explanation might make them happier anyway.
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| September 2, 2013, 8:08 pm
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Quoting Gilbert Despathens
What was the reason for a limit on free builds? The five-per-month restriction has been challenged a couple times.
No one's reached the limit yet, but an explanation might make them happier anyway.

My guess is that so that people don't try to rack up points with many low-effort builds. Limiting them would at least give some incentive to take more time on the free builds.
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| September 2, 2013, 8:37 pm
Quoting David the Fire Ninja Jedi
My guess is that so that people don't try to rack up points with many low-effort builds. Limiting them would at least give some incentive to take more time on the free builds.

We get rid of the get-points-quick builds, though. Have you seen any around recently?
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| September 2, 2013, 8:44 pm
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Quoting Gilbert Despathens
We get rid of the get-points-quick builds, though. Have you seen any around recently?

True, but that was just my guess.

Well, not as much :D
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| September 2, 2013, 8:45 pm
Quoting David the Fire Ninja Jedi
True, but that was just my guess.

Nope :D

People should just enter challenges and put time and effort into it if they wish to get points fast. I mean, Come On! Some of these MOCS are just...sad.
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| September 2, 2013, 8:54 pm
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Quoting Gilbert Despathens
What was the reason for a limit on free builds? The five-per-month restriction has been challenged a couple times.
No one's reached the limit yet, but an explanation might make them happier anyway.

What's wrong with Five? It might make them happy to know why the number's five? Who's upset anyways? The reason we put five was because if some people build alot, and if they don't like the challenges.. They can just do freebuilds. But that doesn't answer why the limit's five. Do you think it should be less?
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| September 2, 2013, 9:21 pm
Quoting Freeling .
What's wrong with Five? It might make them happy to know why the number's five? Who's upset anyways? The reason we put five was because if some people build alot, and if they don't like the challenges.. They can just do freebuilds. But that doesn't answer why the limit's five. Do you think it should be less?

Less? No! It's just that some people don't see why there should be a limit at all. Some people build a lot, but what if someone REALLY builds a lot? It's one of those hypothetical/metaphysical questions. There's probably some deep, mystic wisdom to be found in the analysis of the problem.
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| September 2, 2013, 9:27 pm
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Quoting Gilbert Despathens
Less? No! It's just that some people don't see why there should be a limit at all. Some people build a lot, but what if someone REALLY builds a lot? It's one of those hypothetical/metaphysical questions. There's probably some deep, mystic wisdom to be found in the analysis of the problem.

Okay. Now I see what you mean. I thought you were saying that Five was too much. Anyways, Five was the number formed by the ancient Staff (Me.) So some people won't just throw MOCs together for points, such as a fig on a plate. And believe me, We've had those.

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| September 2, 2013, 9:30 pm
Ok, so, I have a suggestion, in case David didn't put this in the admin group. Here we go:

OK, so, as you must know, as the (I think) leader of Nerogue, that Mythron and Nerogue are trying to stay on good terms. I think, perhaps, an ambassador role might be nice. Like, they're appointed to the position jointly by you and the High King or what have you, and blah blah blah they're often working on relationships and communications and whatnot. So, bring this up to the admins please? Could even work with other factions, and would certainly make things seem more realistic. (ie, real nations)

I might like such a thing as a claim-to-fame of sorts, especially since my character honestly looks more a Nerougian than anything, but hey, if he's not, I don't care. (Wow, that was a novel >.<')
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| September 2, 2013, 9:40 pm
Quoting Freeling .
Okay. Now I see what you mean. I thought you were saying that Five was too much. Anyways, Five was the number formed by the ancient Staff (Me.) So some people won't just throw MOCs together for points, such as a fig on a plate. And believe me, We've had those.

I've seen them and we've written legislation against them... I think that happened during your hiatus.
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| September 2, 2013, 9:58 pm
Quoting Gilbert Despathens
I've seen them and we've written legislation against them... I think that happened during your hiatus.

And now we have our reasoning! Everyone happy?
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| September 2, 2013, 9:59 pm
Quoting Garrett A.
Ok, so, I have a suggestion, in case David didn't put this in the admin group. Here we go:

OK, so, as you must know, as the (I think) leader of Nerogue, that Mythron and Nerogue are trying to stay on good terms. I think, perhaps, an ambassador role might be nice. Like, they're appointed to the position jointly by you and the High King or what have you, and blah blah blah they're often working on relationships and communications and whatnot. So, bring this up to the admins please? Could even work with other factions, and would certainly make things seem more realistic. (ie, real nations)

I might like such a thing as a claim-to-fame of sorts, especially since my character honestly looks more a Nerougian than anything, but hey, if he's not, I don't care. (Wow, that was a novel >.<')

I love that idea. In fact, I think it's a rank position in some factions, so Brick Boy might be the person you want. There's also something new in the staff group that could help with this scheme, so I'll see how hard I can push it.
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| September 2, 2013, 10:01 pm
Quoting Gilbert Despathens
And now we have our reasoning! Everyone happy?


No, because I haven't gotten a response to my suggestion yet :P
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| September 2, 2013, 10:01 pm
Quoting Gilbert Despathens
I love that idea. In fact, I think it's a rank position in some factions, so Brick Boy might be the person you want. There's also something new in the staff group that could help with this scheme, so I'll see how hard I can push it.


NINJAAAAAD

And please push it hard.
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| September 2, 2013, 10:03 pm
To the staff group, Robin!
Admins assemble!
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| September 2, 2013, 10:20 pm
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Perhaps a police of sorts would be nice. I feel like if I was an outlaw, I would just make MOCs of me stealing giant treasures with no one to stop me. Suppose there was some kind of faction or role within the faction that would catch outlaws, that would be motivation to be sneaky like and not steal an entire room full of gold. I understand that if you have a guild you can kind of do this, but I haven't actually seen anyone do this.
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| September 2, 2013, 10:32 pm
Quoting Caleb R
Perhaps a police of sorts would be nice. I feel like if I was an outlaw, I would just make MOCs of me stealing giant treasures with no one to stop me. Suppose there was some kind of faction or role within the faction that would catch outlaws, that would be motivation to be sneaky like and not steal an entire room full of gold. I understand that if you have a guild you can kind of do this, but I haven't actually seen anyone do this.

The police is anyone who isn't an outlaw. No one is just going to leave their giant room full of gold unguarded. If they did, that would be completely unrealistic, and would make the build boring.
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| September 2, 2013, 10:35 pm
Quoting Gilbert Despathens
To the staff group, Robin!
Admins assemble!

I really need to get my way into that group! :P
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| September 2, 2013, 10:36 pm
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Quoting George Marshall
The police is anyone who isn't an outlaw. No one is just going to leave their giant room full of gold unguarded. If they did, that would be completely unrealistic, and would make the build boring.

Wait, so I can catch outlaw players? Or only NPC outlaws?
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| September 2, 2013, 10:39 pm
Quoting Caleb R
Perhaps a police of sorts would be nice. I feel like if I was an outlaw, I would just make MOCs of me stealing giant treasures with no one to stop me. Suppose there was some kind of faction or role within the faction that would catch outlaws, that would be motivation to be sneaky like and not steal an entire room full of gold. I understand that if you have a guild you can kind of do this, but I haven't actually seen anyone do this.

Join my guild and I will help exact revenge on anyone who steals your giant treasures.
Maybe the Nerogues would be interested in an extra role as an LOM InterPOL.
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| September 3, 2013, 10:23 am
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I feel like everyone has pretty much given up on the Enalica Faction. I think it's still possible to save the faction before it's too late. As I have said before, I think the problem is that the Enalica faction is pirates, and although that sounds cool, very few people know how to build ships. I originally wanted to join Enalica because not many people were, but when I read the description, I thought "no way am I only building ships and sea shores for my LOM entries,". I think that if we changed what the faction was about and changed what kind of builds they were, it would be very good.
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| September 11, 2013, 10:56 pm
Quoting Caleb R
I feel like everyone has pretty much given up on the Enalica Faction. I think it's still possible to save the faction before it's too late. As I have said before, I think the problem is that the Enalica faction is pirates, and although that sounds cool, very few people know how to build ships. I originally wanted to join Enalica because not many people were, but when I read the description, I thought "no way am I only building ships and sea shores for my LOM entries,". I think that if we changed what the faction was about and changed what kind of builds they were, it would be very good.

We had talked about this before, and if we don't get any activity from Enalica during this challenge, it will likely come up again in the Staff group. Thanks for your input!
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| September 13, 2013, 7:48 am
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Quoting George Marshall
We had talked about this before, and if we don't get any activity from Enalica during this challenge, it will likely come up again in the Staff group. Thanks for your input!

Okay, thanks for the reply!
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| September 13, 2013, 7:59 am
I have a suggestion

I amassed a lot of red soldiers for the king in my meedass serie, I could play the king s role, build a big castle, with rooms filled with treasure for people to steal.

I could play police by reproducing the thieves,
and, it would be great that everyone is against
the king, lol.

I d make him totally heinous, lol, it could be very motivating to raid him!

I d make him very abusive of the people under him, to make things more interesting, he d give bribes in the form of gold and armaments to stool the 'traitors' against the crown, lol.

ex; you get a new kit, you have to stool another player to equip your fig, lol.

just an idea, tell me what you think.

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| October 16, 2013, 4:22 am
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Quoting cyberfrank 2010
I have a suggestion

I amassed a lot of red soldiers for the king in my meedass serie, I could play the king s role, build a big castle, with rooms filled with treasure for people to steal.

I could play police by reproducing the thieves,
and, it would be great that everyone is against
the king, lol.

I d make him totally heinous, lol, it could be very motivating to raid him!

I d make him very abusive of the people under him, to make things more interesting, he d give bribes in the form of gold and armaments to stool the 'traitors' against the crown, lol.

ex; you get a new kit, you have to stool another player to equip your fig, lol.

just an idea, tell me what you think.

The king of Mythron and his men wear blue. If you have a lot of red, ask Gilbert. Unfortunately he is gone for a week, so you'll have to ask him about a king later on.
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| October 16, 2013, 4:49 am
ok, thanks Cal!
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| October 16, 2013, 1:57 pm
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Quoting cyberfrank 2010
I have a suggestion

I amassed a lot of red soldiers for the king in my meedass serie, I could play the king s role, build a big castle, with rooms filled with treasure for people to steal.


Depends on which King you're talking about. The High King? Or a different King? If it's the High King, I'm sorry to say, but that's a negatory negative.
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| October 16, 2013, 2:21 pm
Quoting Freeling .
whatever king...
as, I have a huge red army,
and medium green army,
I d like to make a big scene with lots of soldiers that would fit the group s scheme,
and that people could add on.

+ since I can reproduce lots of people s figs,
I could follow up on their acts,
ex; I attack a village with the king s men,
you kill some of them, in your story,
and I could reply in mine later, by reproducing part of yours, and add to it,
lots of great things could be done,
it s possible to make reproduction easy by making simple build scenes,
with experience, it will get easier,
ex; a prison cell, you get put in prison in my story, in yours, you escape, lol.

just trying to see how we can keep the LoM fresh.

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| October 20, 2013, 11:27 am
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Quoting cyberfrank 2010
whatever king...
as, I have a huge red army,
and medium green army,
I d like to make a big scene with lots of soldiers that would fit the group s scheme,
and that people could add on.

+ since I can reproduce lots of people s figs,
I could follow up on their acts,
ex; I attack a village with the king s men,
you kill some of them, in your story,
and I could reply in mine later, by reproducing part of yours, and add to it,
lots of great things could be done,
it s possible to make reproduction easy by making simple build scenes,
with experience, it will get easier,
ex; a prison cell, you get put in prison in my story, in yours, you escape, lol.

just trying to see how we can keep the LoM fresh.

I have a solution. Since Mythron's colors are blue and black for the soldiers, you could use your red army, and say that they were mercenaries hired by a king in mythron. And they could carry blue flags. Whatever you want to do.
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| October 20, 2013, 3:29 pm
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Quoting Freeling .
I have a solution. Since Mythron's colors are blue and black for the soldiers, you could use your red army, and say that they were mercenaries hired by a king in mythron. And they could carry blue flags. Whatever you want to do.

Mythron DOES NOT hire mercenaries! We are a nation of honor...if we fight with another color...it's because they're our allies!
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| October 20, 2013, 5:53 pm
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Quoting ~ Brick
Mythron DOES NOT hire mercenaries! We are a nation of honor...if we fight with another color...it's because they're our allies!

Whatever you say dude.
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| October 20, 2013, 5:58 pm
Quoting ~ Brick
Mythron DOES NOT hire mercenaries! We are a nation of honor...if we fight with another color...it's because they're our allies!

Right. Maybe you should be the Propaganda Minister rather than the faction leader.
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| October 21, 2013, 12:13 am
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Quoting ~ Brick
Mythron DOES NOT hire mercenaries! We are a nation of honor...if we fight with another color...it's because they're our allies!


That still leaves us without a definitive solution for the red soldiers, unless you replace all the red sleeves with blue ones.
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| October 21, 2013, 11:07 am
Quoting Thomas of Tortuga

That still leaves us without a definitive solution for the red soldiers, unless you replace all the red sleeves with blue ones.

I use my Kingdoms-line red soldiers as provincial troops belonging to Falmore or Meids to get around the color issue. That way they don't need the national colors.
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| October 22, 2013, 8:23 am
Quoting Freeling .
I have a solution. Since Mythron's colors are blue and black for the soldiers, you could use your red army, and say that they were mercenaries hired by a king in mythron. And they could carry blue flags. Whatever you want to do.


thanks, that s an interesting solution.
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| October 22, 2013, 12:20 pm
how about a red army from another country?
Sulfarh, that way, all the Mythron, Enalica, Nerogue players could battle them off the land,
all could unite against the common foe!
I like it better than fighting other players.
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| October 22, 2013, 12:25 pm
Quoting cyberfrank 2010
how about a red army from another country?
Sulfarh, that way, all the Mythron, Enalica, Nerogue players could battle them off the land,
all could unite against the common foe!
I like it better than fighting other players.

If you do that, it kind of defeats the purpose of having seperate factions.
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| October 22, 2013, 12:27 pm
Quoting cyberfrank 2010
how about a red army from another country?
Sulfarh, that way, all the Mythron, Enalica, Nerogue players could battle them off the land,
all could unite against the common foe!
I like it better than fighting other players.

Not happening. Sorry.
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| October 22, 2013, 12:37 pm
Quoting Jacob Pennington
If you do that, it kind of defeats the purpose of having seperate factions.


the lands have different colors, and different
kinds of building features, the Nerogues could be more successful in defeating the enemy, [example]

the competition could be measured in success in repelling the enemy instead of each other.

the fun could be to make the enemy as bad as possible, ex; eating the children, burning the houses, putting the vanquished s heads on spikes ect...

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| October 22, 2013, 12:57 pm
Quoting Gilbert Despathens
Not happening. Sorry.


you re from Rainos, who do you attack?
and why?
what is your end-goal?
you can never achieve the conquest...

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| October 22, 2013, 1:07 pm
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Quoting cyberfrank 2010

thanks, that s an interesting solution.


You know the faction leader for Mythron just vetoed that approach, right?
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| October 22, 2013, 2:43 pm
Quoting cyberfrank 2010

you re from Rainos, who do you attack?
and why?
what is your end-goal?
you can never achieve the conquest...

My first goal of MOCpages is to become a world-class builder. My second goal is to make the Lands of Mythron as great as possible. My third goal is to promote the glory of Rainos - not necessarily its holdings. However, the city-attack system does have certain merits... and it looks like I will be the first person to reach the requisite attack level of one hundred points.
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| October 22, 2013, 10:07 pm
Quoting Thomas of Tortuga

You know the faction leader for Mythron just vetoed that approach, right?

I find his statement to be quite funny, considering that Mythron has hired mercenaries before and will likely do the same again.
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| October 22, 2013, 10:09 pm
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Quoting cyberfrank 2010

the lands have different colors, and different
kinds of building features, the Nerogues could be more successful in defeating the enemy, [example]

the competition could be measured in success in repelling the enemy instead of each other.

the fun could be to make the enemy as bad as possible, ex; eating the children, burning the houses, putting the vanquished s heads on spikes ect...

Eating the children :O I do like the idea of us maybe uniting at some point, but it doesn't have a place in LOM right now
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| October 22, 2013, 10:21 pm
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Maybe a species of skinchangers, like Beorn from the Hobbit, who was a man who could turn willingly into a bear.
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| December 15, 2013, 4:39 pm
I asked freeling to possibly put me into some crossovers with him... tell the status... And also notify people that you do not have that many bricks to build huge sets...
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| December 15, 2013, 4:59 pm
Some extra activity maybe? Some actual showing of characters?
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| December 15, 2013, 5:07 pm
Quoting Ian .....
Maybe a species of skinchangers, like Beorn from the Hobbit, who was a man who could turn willingly into a bear.

I like that idea... But it would depend... maybe some skin-changers are more skilled than others, say, can turn into almost anything (within size limitations), and some can only change into one other thing...
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| December 15, 2013, 7:40 pm
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Quoting Ian .....
Maybe a species of skinchangers, like Beorn from the Hobbit, who was a man who could turn willingly into a bear.

Good idea. Although there's already werewolves... So yea. I could still put Skinchangers in.
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| December 15, 2013, 8:56 pm
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Quoting Freeling ++
Good idea. Although there's already werewolves... So yea. I could still put Skinchangers in.

Thanks, I know there are werewolves, but they are forced to change while skinchangers change at will. Thanks for saying I had a good idea.
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| December 15, 2013, 9:01 pm
How about implementing Global (Story-line) Challenges?

Like the LCC and GoH. It seems like there isn't much of a stotyline (although I am probably wrong about this).

I'd be willing to help.

~RBC
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| December 15, 2013, 10:22 pm
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Quoting royalbrickcustoms (RBC)
How about implementing Global (Story-line) Challenges?

Like the LCC and GoH. It seems like there isn't much of a stotyline (although I am probably wrong about this).

I'd be willing to help.

~RBC

That is exactly what a UC or Universal Challenge is;)
Thanks for suggesting it though!
~Brick
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| December 15, 2013, 10:24 pm
Seeing what Freeling is up to?
What is my points?

I just have my single dude up...
How can I make him into the Outlaws, I do not have many pieces, please?
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| December 16, 2013, 10:47 am
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Quoting royalbrickcustoms (RBC)
How about implementing Global (Story-line) Challenges?

Like the LCC and GoH. It seems like there isn't much of a stotyline (although I am probably wrong about this).

I'd be willing to help.

~RBC

As Brick said, there is indeed an overall storyline. Rainos and Mythron are the main rivals, and right now Mythron has a small beachhead in Rainos after an invasion in October. However, the war has ground to a halt for the duration of the tourney, being held in Carthal. Most of the factions have little going on right now, and most of the activity is taking place in the tourney, where the Average Gnomes and the Crimson Knights are the two major guilds, and in Enalica, where a contest is underway to claim Orfdor.

If you haven't signed up for the tourney yet, btw, I'd encourage you to do so. The Crimson Knights have several spots still open for new recruits, and would welcome someone with skills of your caliber :)
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| December 16, 2013, 1:17 pm
I was thinking, maybe there could be a magic language, like in the Inheritance cycle.
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| December 16, 2013, 1:45 pm
Quoting royalbrickcustoms (RBC)
How about implementing Global (Story-line) Challenges?

Like the LCC and GoH. It seems like there isn't much of a stotyline (although I am probably wrong about this).

I'd be willing to help.

~RBC

We actually do have universal challenges, or group-wide challenges that involve certain events such as invasions, treaties, or other history-making happenings, but we're on an off month. Don't worry, we'll be back to them in January after a few of the admins advance a certain story cycle.
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| December 16, 2013, 4:06 pm
Quoting Aloysius Carnell
I was thinking, maybe there could be a magic language, like in the Inheritance cycle.

That sounds good to me. What wizard is without a few words of gobbledygook to strike fear into the hearts of his or her enemies? Feel free to implement one in your builds.
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| December 16, 2013, 4:08 pm
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Quoting Gilbert Despathens
We actually do have universal challenges, or group-wide challenges that involve certain events such as invasions, treaties, or other history-making happenings, but we're on an off month. Don't worry, we'll be back to them in January after a few of the admins advance a certain story cycle.

Hahah. Indeed.
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| December 16, 2013, 9:21 pm
Quoting Thomas of Tortuga

If you haven't signed up for the tourney yet, btw, I'd encourage you to do so. The Crimson Knights have several spots still open for new recruits, and would welcome someone with skills of your caliber :)

Good job advertising your guild and throwing the other, not so popular ones into the dust. :P Join the Hand of Defiance! We have brownies!
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| December 18, 2013, 5:57 pm
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Quoting Mr. Cab
Good job advertising your guild and throwing the other, not so popular ones into the dust. :P Join the Hand of Defiance! We have brownies!

Actually, join the council of the dragon! We have CAKE AND BROWNIES!!!
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| December 18, 2013, 5:59 pm
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Quoting Mr. Cab
Good job advertising your guild and throwing the other, not so popular ones into the dust. :P Join the Hand of Defiance! We have brownies!

It's your job to promote your guild, not mine. Speaking of which... how'd you like to join the Crimson Knights, Mr. Cab? ;P
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| December 18, 2013, 6:01 pm
Quoting Adam Brunsting
Actually, join the council of the dragon! We have CAKE AND BROWNIES!!!

I was gonna write cake at first, but then I decided on brownies... we have ice cream, and soda, and chocolate, and bacon! :P
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| December 18, 2013, 6:16 pm
Quoting Thomas of Tortuga
It's your job to promote your guild, not mine. Speaking of which... how'd you like to join the Crimson Knights, Mr. Cab? ;P

You're welcome to join the Hand of Defiance. see my previous comment. :P
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| December 18, 2013, 6:17 pm
The Band of the Grey Shield is still open to anyone cool enough to join the original order in the LOM! It may not be part of the Tourney, but all that means is that it is free to roam the rest of the lands while its counterparts spend their time on games...
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| December 18, 2013, 9:14 pm
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I think we should make a group on flickr for any LOM members also active on flickr.
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| January 11, 2014, 4:44 pm
Quoting Ian .....
I think we should make a group on flickr for any LOM members also active on flickr.

Apparently FNJ already made one:
http://www.flickr.com/groups/2332337@N23/
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| January 11, 2014, 4:49 pm
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Quoting Gilbert Despathens
Apparently FNJ already made one:
http://www.flickr.com/groups/2332337@N23/

Okay then, I never saw that.
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| January 11, 2014, 4:51 pm
Quoting Ian .....
Okay then, I never saw that.

Neither did I until I went back through the staff group discussion.
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| January 11, 2014, 4:55 pm
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Quoting Gilbert Despathens
Neither did I until I went back through the staff group discussion.

lel, Maybe we should promote it in this group so more people know.
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| January 11, 2014, 4:56 pm
Quoting Gilbert Despathens
The Band of the Grey Shield is still open to anyone cool enough to join the original order in the LOM! It may not be part of the Tourney, but all that means is that it is free to roam the rest of the lands while its counterparts spend their time on games...

Not after the Gnomes... Nobody is coming back out of that one. :P
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| January 11, 2014, 5:24 pm
King Richard, Rowan's father, had three sons but only Rowan is ever referred to. Why is that?
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| January 29, 2014, 1:29 pm
Quoting Ryan Kayton
King Richard, Rowan's father, had three sons but only Rowan is ever referred to. Why is that?

Even Rowan is hardly referred to. He isn't the most active monarch, and his brothers (Sadon and Borin) don't have much power. By the way, where did it say that the previous king was Richard? His name was Mythros, although he was not the first to bear the name.
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| January 29, 2014, 10:33 pm
Quoting Gilbert Despathens
Even Rowan is hardly referred to. He isn't the most active monarch, and his brothers (Sadon and Borin) don't have much power. By the way, where did it say that the previous king was Richard? His name was Mythros, although he was not the first to bear the name.

When I asked who the High King was Freeling replied Rowan Richardson, I assumed he was the son of Richard instead of it being a simple surname. Maybe Freelings real name is Rowan Richardson?
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| January 30, 2014, 8:51 am
Although I m not a fan of guns I think we should do what AP did: use guns but apply sanctions and limits to them like giving them only to Mythronian soldiers.
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| January 30, 2014, 10:46 am
Quoting Ryan Kayton
Although I m not a fan of guns I think we should do what AP did: use guns but apply sanctions and limits to them like giving them only to Mythronian soldiers.


I think AP's series was set later, with more technological advancements. I could buy into dwarves with some kind of gunpowder, but nothing else.
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| January 30, 2014, 10:50 am
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Quoting Toa Infernum

I think AP's series was set later, with more technological advancements. I could buy into dwarves with some kind of gunpowder, but nothing else.

Yeah, as far as I can tell A P's is set 100 years further into the future than the GoH universe.
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| January 30, 2014, 11:03 am
I'm full to bursting with ideas here.

So I'm going to take it slowly to explain a few of them to you guys. The first shall come soon.
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| March 19, 2014, 1:06 pm
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It would be nice to have more Rogue Challenges...since there have only ever been 4...
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| March 19, 2014, 1:10 pm
Quoting Halhi 141
It would be nice to have more Rogue Challenges...since there have only ever been 4...

Mythron had one scheduled. It was supposed to take place not long after the Aftermath UC, but it was pushed back for various reasons and now abandoned. I'll see if Enalica, Mythron or Nerogue are interested in holding one.
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| March 19, 2014, 1:26 pm
I am driving myself mad. I know I can contribute a LOT to this group. Especially in terms of detail, something that LOM pales in comparison to GoH. With an admins permission, I would like to start suggesting several ideas that can affect the gameplay and over all quality of this group. Perhaps I can post them in a private group?
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| March 20, 2014, 1:47 am
My first suggestion is to give more freedom to the factions. So, instead of making fixed, everlasting alliances it should rather be more competitive and allow the factions to ally with whoever they want, so that the alliances shall be made on a basis of mutual benefit at the appropriate time instead of "well, we're similar and there's not much point in not allying".

I'm only trying to help here, so if you tell me to stop for whatever reason I shall not only be deeply hurt, but I shall cease my contributions. This group can get a LOT better, just let me give my suggestions.
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| March 20, 2014, 7:11 am
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Quoting Ryan Kayton
I am driving myself mad. I know I can contribute a LOT to this group. Especially in terms of detail, something that LOM pales in comparison to GoH. With an admins permission, I would like to start suggesting several ideas that can affect the gameplay and over all quality of this group. Perhaps I can post them in a private group?

The problem is that detail isn't always good in something like this. People like freedom, and too many details to remember when making their stories can be annying.
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| March 20, 2014, 9:49 am
Quoting Halhi 141
The problem is that detail isn't always good in something like this. People like freedom, and too many details to remember when making their stories can be annying.

That's true, and has been stated before. Please read my more recent one and keep an eye out; there will be more.
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| March 20, 2014, 9:55 am
My second suggestion is to create one more city. Since the High King is an NPC and under control of the Admins, I don't think its right that while the other factions have four leaders, Mythron only has three. We can rather make it some form of goal, like what they have in the Elder Scrolls Online. Rather make it a contested city, and the faction that rules it gets bonuses and the highest-ranking player of that faction becomes the High King.

This is probably the most difficult of my suggestions to implement, so I don't expect this one to actually go through.
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| March 20, 2014, 9:55 am
Quoting Ryan Kayton
My second suggestion is to create one more city. Since the High King is an NPC and under control of the Admins, I don't think its right that while the other factions have four leaders, Mythron only has three. We can rather make it some form of goal, like what they have in the Elder Scrolls Online. Rather make it a contested city, and the faction that rules it gets bonuses and the highest-ranking player of that faction becomes the High King.

This is probably the most difficult of my suggestions to implement, so I don't expect this one to actually go through.

We have considered placing Reedus in the hands of Mythron's leadership, but we are waiting for a good opportunity to do so. There's also no point in turning the role of High King into a position that every faction can vie for because the High King only controls the faction of Mythron. Rainos has its own High King and the other factions all have comparable authority figures.
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| March 20, 2014, 10:53 am
Quoting Gilbert Despathens
We have considered placing Reedus in the hands of Mythron's leadership, but we are waiting for a good opportunity to do so. There's also no point in turning the role of High King into a position that every faction can vie for because the High King only controls the faction of Mythron. Rainos has its own High King and the other factions all have comparable authority figures.

As I said, that one was unlikely to go through.
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| March 20, 2014, 10:54 am
My third is that we need to use a better form of literature to advertise the groups setting and background. One of the reasons that GoH is so good is the simple fact that every aspect of it is highly appealing.

We could perhaps make a competition out of it.
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| March 20, 2014, 10:55 am
Quoting Ryan Kayton
My first suggestion is to give more freedom to the factions. So, instead of making fixed, everlasting alliances it should rather be more competitive and allow the factions to ally with whoever they want, so that the alliances shall be made on a basis of mutual benefit at the appropriate time instead of "well, we're similar and there's not much point in not allying".

I'm only trying to help here, so if you tell me to stop for whatever reason I shall not only be deeply hurt, but I shall cease my contributions. This group can get a LOT better, just let me give my suggestions.

The alliances do shift, but they do so slowly. Remember, the story so far is only one year in the history of the region - major diplomatic changes take time. These are the changes so far:
- The Outlaws and Mythron broke their alliance early in the game
- Rainos and Mythron allied against the Outlaws
- Pirates/Enalicans and Rainosians raid each other
- Nerogue is formed
- Nerogue and Mythron ally
- Rainos fights Mythron and Nerogue and Outlaws fight everyone in the Mythron Attacks challenge
- Rainos is upset by the lack of Enalican support and considers annexing the territory, while Mythron and Nerogue strain their relationship over defeats in the previous challenge
- Enalica and Rainos become firm allies when a Rainosian takes control of the island faction
- The Black Lotus appears in Bodus
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| March 20, 2014, 11:02 am
Quoting R@ K@T
My third is that we need to use a better form of literature to advertise the groups setting and background. One of the reasons that GoH is so good is the simple fact that every aspect of it is highly appealing.

We could perhaps make a competition out of it.

In terms of size, I think we're drawing even with the GoH. The difference is that the GoH attracts more AFOLs than any other age group, while the LOM consists of KFOLs, TFOLs and a smattering of AFOLs. I don't see a lot of GoH propaganda floating around, but I do think Historica has an appeal due to its comparative freedom and the activity of the members it attracts. This is a good idea, though, and I'm interested in what sort of competition you envision.
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| March 20, 2014, 11:08 am
Quoting Gilbert Despathens
In terms of size, I think we're drawing even with the GoH. The difference is that the GoH attracts more AFOLs than any other age group, while the LOM consists of KFOLs, TFOLs and a smattering of AFOLs. I don't see a lot of GoH propaganda floating around, but I do think Historica has an appeal due to its comparative freedom and the activity of the members it attracts. This is a good idea, though, and I'm interested in what sort of competition you envision.

If you allow me, I could have it set up, judged and perfected in under a month.
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| March 20, 2014, 11:13 am
PS: thank you for your replies, they have boosted my confidence in this group.
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| March 20, 2014, 11:16 am
Quoting R@ K@T
If you allow me, I could have it set up, judged and perfected in under a month.

Just tell me what you're planning, please, and the staff group will touch it up and present it.
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| March 20, 2014, 1:18 pm
Quoting Gilbert Despathens
Just tell me what you're planning, please, and the staff group will touch it up and present it.

Alright. Expect a full report by mid-day tomorrow.
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| March 20, 2014, 1:24 pm
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Quoting Ryan Kayton
My first suggestion is to give more freedom to the factions. So, instead of making fixed, everlasting alliances it should rather be more competitive and allow the factions to ally with whoever they want, so that the alliances shall be made on a basis of mutual benefit at the appropriate time instead of "well, we're similar and there's not much point in not allying".
The current alliances are not permanent alliances. But it is likely that they will stay around for a year or two.

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| March 20, 2014, 3:09 pm
Quoting David FNJ
Quoting Ryan Kayton
My first suggestion is to give more freedom to the factions. So, instead of making fixed, everlasting alliances it should rather be more competitive and allow the factions to ally with whoever they want, so that the alliances shall be made on a basis of mutual benefit at the appropriate time instead of "well, we're similar and there's not much point in not allying".
The current alliances are not permanent alliances. But it is likely that they will stay around for a year or two.

That is much better.
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| March 20, 2014, 3:22 pm
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