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Regional Challenge: Persuasion
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A new challenge to advance your characters!

Show your character being persuaded, or persuading someone in order to gain their trust or obtain something desired.
Make us feel persuaded, if you can!

Rules,
1. Title your entry- LOM Persuasion Challenge: (Insert custom name here).
2. Post a link in this thread.
3. All entries must be in by September first.

Judging will be done on a 10 point scale.
- Up to 5 points for the build.
- Up to 3 points for the story.
- Up to 2 points for the things that make your entry unique.

Good luck and happy building!
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| August 2, 2013, 4:25 pm
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Coolness!
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| August 2, 2013, 4:26 pm
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My entry is coming along!
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| August 3, 2013, 2:09 pm
Yay! This might give me the chance to not have to build two free-builds. How many points for an entry?
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| August 3, 2013, 2:11 pm
Soo... Who are we persuading?
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| August 3, 2013, 2:15 pm
Awesome, I'm totally entering! And I've got an idea to make it go along with my character's storyline!
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| August 3, 2013, 2:54 pm
Awesome, my upcoming free build fits this perfectly!
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| August 3, 2013, 4:12 pm
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Quoting David .
Soo... Who are we persuading?

Anyone you want XD muahahah! (well, no actual characters of other people of course....unless I persuade you to join Nerogue and it can be your "transition" build?)
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| August 3, 2013, 4:13 pm
Here's my entry to the Persuasion Challenge. This challenge was fun to build for!

http://mocpages.com/moc.php/366491
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| August 3, 2013, 7:06 pm
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Is this for all factions?
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| August 3, 2013, 7:09 pm
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Quoting Stephen Boe
Is this for all factions?

Of course! All Regional and all Universal Challenges are for all factions :D
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| August 3, 2013, 7:16 pm
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Quoting David the Fire Ninja Jedi
Anyone you want XD muahahah! (well, no actual characters of other people of course....unless I persuade you to join Nerogue and it can be your "transition" build?)

As I'm no less generous than FNJ, you may also allow one of my characters to persuade you to join Rainos... Or even the pirates.
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| August 3, 2013, 7:25 pm
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Quoting Chris .
Yay! This might give me the chance to not have to build two free-builds. How many points for an entry?
You get 5 points whenever you enter a regional or universal challenge and 10 if you win!

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| August 4, 2013, 4:02 pm
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Quoting The Object of Legend
Quoting Chris .
Yay! This might give me the chance to not have to build two free-builds. How many points for an entry?
You get 5 points whenever you enter a regional or universal challenge and 10 if you win!

Or tie someone else for the win :)
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| August 4, 2013, 4:56 pm
My entry good sirs!

http://www.mocpages.com/moc.php/366601
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| August 4, 2013, 8:32 pm
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My amazing entry!

http://mocpages.com/moc.php/366663
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| August 5, 2013, 4:20 pm
I don't get back until Wednesday, how long to we have to build this challenge?
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| August 5, 2013, 4:35 pm
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Quoting Stephen Boe
My amazing entry!

http://mocpages.com/moc.php/366663

Your right, it is amazing!
-Brick boy
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| August 5, 2013, 4:58 pm
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Quoting George Marshall
I don't get back until Wednesday, how long to we have to build this challenge?

All month.
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| August 5, 2013, 4:58 pm
Oh man, this is PERFECT for my one of my Mocs.
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| August 5, 2013, 9:35 pm
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A longer episode than the last for those of you keeping up. Enjoy!

http://www.mocpages.com/moc.php/366714
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| August 6, 2013, 9:30 am
Looks good. I'll have to throw something together. Vergo might not be the best at persuasion ( persuasion to an orc is most likely beat them over the head lol ).
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| August 6, 2013, 7:28 pm
Quoting The Object of Legend



Would that actually be ok if I showed and orc definition of persuasion?
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| August 7, 2013, 8:54 am
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Quoting Dylan Something

Would that actually be ok if I showed and orc definition of persuasion?
I see your point. Just try to get as much persuasion in there as possible. There are other forms of persuasion.

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| August 7, 2013, 3:03 pm
Quoting The Object of Legend
Quoting Dylan Something

Would that actually be ok if I showed and orc definition of persuasion?
I see your point. Just try to get as much persuasion in there as possible. There are other forms of persuasion.


By other forms of persuasion, would one of those other forms be to beat them over the heads until they submit? Vergo is good at that ( Lol ).

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| August 7, 2013, 5:38 pm
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Quoting Dylan Something

By other forms of persuasion, would one of those other forms be to beat them over the heads until they submit? Vergo is good at that ( Lol ).

There is a difference between persuasion and manipulation.

Persuasion - giving the full information about why something is a good decision (cons are also shown).
Manipulation - trying to get someone to do something you want for self-gain.

Manipulation may use some forms of persuasion, but it also mixes in things that are false. Like trying to use emotion instead of reason to make a decision, or giving false information, or making exaggerated claims, or hiding some other facts, or using force.


What you were saying is manipulation, not persuasion.
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| August 7, 2013, 5:53 pm
Quoting David the Fire Ninja Jedi



Ok. Fine. But what do you suggest I do!? Orcs don't persuade. Orcs cannot be easily persuaded, as they are strong-willed ( Vergo is no exception ). Persuasion does not fit into my character. Oh, and I must point out, persuasion can be used for self gain also.
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| August 7, 2013, 6:24 pm
Does this challenge have to have my character persuading someone, or can someone be persuading him? Also, can this persuasion come in the form of a letter? Say, someone wants me to join them on the attack of an outpost, could they send me a persuading letter? Hey, it's original enough!
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| August 7, 2013, 6:41 pm
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Quoting David the Fire Ninja Jedi
Persuasion - giving the full information about why something is a good decision (cons are also shown).
Manipulation - trying to get someone to do something you want for self-gain.

Manipulation may use some forms of persuasion, but it also mixes in things that are false. Like trying to use emotion instead of reason to make a decision, or giving false information, or making exaggerated claims, or hiding some other facts, or using force.

Er... This is what my dictionary says:

Quoting the Second College Edition American Heritage Dictionary
per-suade tr.v. 1. a. To cause (someone) to do something by means of argument, reasoning, or entreaty. b. To win over (someone) to a course of action by reasoning or inducement. 2. To make (someone) believe something; convince

Persuasion under the first two definitions neither specifies the means used to persuade or the degree of conviction present in the object of the persuasion; it simply states that one person causes another entity to perform an action. Delivering an ultimatum that threatens physical violence is, unfortunately, a time-honored method of persuasion. Honesty is not part of the equation.
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| August 7, 2013, 6:59 pm
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Quoting Dylan Something
Ok. Fine. But what do you suggest I do!? Orcs don't persuade. Orcs cannot be easily persuaded, as they are strong-willed ( Vergo is no exception ). Persuasion does not fit into my character. Oh, and I must point out, persuasion can be used for self gain also.

You're first plan is fine. By all means, go ahead with it.
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| August 7, 2013, 7:02 pm
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Quoting George Marshall
Does this challenge have to have my character persuading someone, or can someone be persuading him? Also, can this persuasion come in the form of a letter? Say, someone wants me to join them on the attack of an outpost, could they send me a persuading letter? Hey, it's original enough!

Quoting Challenge Description
Show your character being persuaded...

It's a loose definition. A letter should work fine.
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| August 7, 2013, 7:04 pm
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The definition I gave was not from the dictionary, I did the general definition from the professional leadership and business area. The way persuasion should be used - ethically, truthfully, and honestly. The definition is not precise from where I got it - but it has the main point. When persuasion sways over to things that are unethical, untrue, or dishonest, then it is manipulation.
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| August 7, 2013, 9:13 pm
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Quoting Gilbert Despathens
Oh, I see. Sounds like SkillsUSA. Fortunately, the inhabitants of Mythron make no pretense of being ethical businesspeople.

Well, that may be true for most of the people of Mythron. But those who go to the higher standard of chivalry an honor will realize the dangers of manipulation ;)

But yeah, anyone could persuade or be persuaded by whatever means :) (just don't have my character persuading people by what I showed as manipulation)
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| August 7, 2013, 9:51 pm
Quoting David the Fire Ninja Jedi
the dangers of manipulation ;)

What, that it's addictive? ;)
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| August 7, 2013, 10:17 pm
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Quoting Gilbert Despathens
How did Darvainian ever make it as a diplomat, let alone a super-spy...

Haha! Only Bartok and his gang wouldn't be able to understand XD

Diplomat
During the earlier days of Mythron when people had a moral grounding and when there was free trade between the lands (before Rainos came). The time before the king who ruled when Rainos rebelled.

Spy
When people lost their morality by pursuing their own gains.... It happened through a course of 70 years. 60 years of the bad king, and then only 10 years of the king who fell at the Battle of Unbinding. Darvainian was there for the entire reign of the last king of Mythron before the Battle of Unbinding.....that is when Darvainian was a spy....and that is how he knows such things.

The firm foundation has been lost, and now it shall be reestablished. However, this time the foudation will not springing forth from Mythron, but rather Nerogue. Hopefully Mythron will catch on and continue the quest to regain that ground. It is because of these happenings that we have this group - The Lands of Mythron.

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| August 7, 2013, 10:52 pm
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The above comment has some features of what my persuasion MOC will be :D
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| August 7, 2013, 11:10 pm
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Quoting Gilbert Despathens
It is rather hard for Rainosians to understand the old glory of Mythron because most of them were too busy being exploited - that its, manipulated - by profiteering imperialistic scum to notice...
Admins! Don't you think your getting a little off topic here?

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| August 8, 2013, 6:47 am
Quoting The Object of Legend
Quoting Gilbert Despathens
It is rather hard for Rainosians to understand the old glory of Mythron because most of them were too busy being exploited - that its, manipulated - by profiteering imperialistic scum to notice...
Admins! Don't you think your getting a little off topic here?


Lol!
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| August 8, 2013, 8:13 am
Quoting Gilbert Despathens
You're first plan is fine. By all means, go ahead with it.


Ok thanks. Sorry for all the ruckus.
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| August 8, 2013, 8:13 am
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Quoting The Object of Legend
Quoting Gilbert Despathens
It is rather hard for Rainosians to understand the old glory of Mythron because most of them were too busy being exploited - that its, manipulated - by profiteering imperialistic scum to notice...
Admins! Don't you think your getting a little off topic here?

Nah, we're just having fun trying to persuade those watching XD

It seems fitting in this thread actually ;)

I think I was done anyway. That was fun though, right Gilbert? :D
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| August 8, 2013, 10:34 am
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Quoting David the Fire Ninja Jedi
Nah, we're just having fun trying to persuade those watching XD

It seems fitting in this thread actually ;)

I think I was done anyway. That was fun though, right Gilbert? :D

Yep. It would be great to do a complete (and unbiased) history of Mythron and Rainos eventually, but for now we're just getting into the spirit of the challenge.
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| August 8, 2013, 11:54 am
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Quoting David the Fire Ninja Jedi
It seems fitting in this thread actually ;)
Sure, sure.

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| August 9, 2013, 6:56 am
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Quoting George Marshall
Tis done! http://www.mocpages.com/moc.php/367011

You WOULD post right after I perfected the points thread... *sigh*
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| August 9, 2013, 3:25 pm
Quoting The Object of Legend
A new challenge to advance your characters!

Show your character being persuaded, or persuading someone in order to gain their trust or obtain something desired.
Make us feel persuaded, if you can!

Rules,
1. Title your entry- LOM Persuasion Challenge: (Insert custom name here).
2. Post a link in this thread.

Judging will be done on a 10 point scale.
- Up to 5 points for the build.
- Up to 3 points for the story.
- Up to 2 points for the things that make your entry unique.

Good luck and happy building!


Here we are!

http://www.mocpages.com/moc.php/366954
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| August 10, 2013, 6:13 pm
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When does this end.
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| August 13, 2013, 12:04 pm
Quoting Ian .....
When does this end.

End of the month(?).
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| August 13, 2013, 12:09 pm
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Quoting Ian .....
When does this end.

Remember to judge for the second annual scj fi contest!
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| August 13, 2013, 12:12 pm
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Quoting Ian .....
When does this end.
September first is the last day to post your entries. Thanks for asking, I'll put that in the main post now.
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| August 13, 2013, 7:23 pm
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Done: http://www.mocpages.com/moc.php/367459
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| August 14, 2013, 3:56 pm
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http://www.mocpages.com/moc.php/367371

DONE!
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| August 14, 2013, 4:19 pm
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I am in.
http://www.mocpages.com/moc.php/368084
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| August 21, 2013, 6:43 pm
Ok my character intro fits this. I'll leave it titled character introduction but can I enter it too?
http://mocpages.com/moc.php/368194
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| August 22, 2013, 12:14 pm
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Quoting That guy you saw earlier
Ok my character intro fits this. I'll leave it titled character introduction but can I enter it too?
http://mocpages.com/moc.php/368194

Sorry, you need a new build for each challenge.
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| August 23, 2013, 8:05 am
Quoting Gilbert Despathens
Sorry, you need a new build for each challenge.

Ok ill try ;-)
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| August 25, 2013, 4:50 pm
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Quoting That guy you saw earlier
Ok ill try ;-)

Good luck.
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| August 25, 2013, 7:02 pm
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I'm done with mine!
http://www.mocpages.com/moc.php/368980
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| August 30, 2013, 12:11 pm
Quoting David the Fire Ninja Jedi
I'm done with mine!
http://www.mocpages.com/moc.php/368980

Its awesome! Good luck! Posting mine later today
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| August 31, 2013, 7:23 am
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Here's mine:
http://mocpages.com/moc.php/367371
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| August 31, 2013, 12:00 pm
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Quoting Brick Boy
Here's mine:
http://mocpages.com/moc.php/367371

You'll have to change the title of your MOC to

LOM Persuasion Challenge: (Whatever you want here)
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| August 31, 2013, 12:54 pm
My entry!
http://mocpages.com/moc.php/369091
Hope you like!
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| August 31, 2013, 3:48 pm
I have finished my entry.

http://www.mocpages.com/moc.php/369118

Hope you all like it!

~ McLegofreak
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| August 31, 2013, 5:03 pm
Here is my entry.

http://www.mocpages.com/moc.php/369122

~ Rukar
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| August 31, 2013, 6:28 pm
Quoting The Object of Legend

When will the judging begin? Also, when will there be another challenge.

~ McLegofreak
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| September 1, 2013, 3:11 pm
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Quoting ~ McLegofreak
When will the judging begin? Also, when will there be another challenge.

~ McLegofreak

The judging is currently underway. We will give the admins time to view and score all of the entries based on the OoL's rubric and share the results by the end of the month. As for the next challenge, I just posted it!
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| September 1, 2013, 3:53 pm
This still open?


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| December 13, 2013, 9:58 am
Quoting Lord Bacca
This still open?


Nope
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| December 13, 2013, 10:13 am
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