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General Conversation 15: Bordello of Blood
I must admit that I should have considered updating/revising/renovating a few of my DA builds. Were we to play during the winter months (for those of us in North America), I might have been so inclined. All in all, however, it's been a fun and interesting game. Lots of great builds, good smack, and, unfortunately, tacos. I don't care much for tacos, or pretty much any Mexican cuisine with exception of the fajita -- and then only if it isn't spicy. I have a weak stomach, you see, which is why the recent DA bloodbath has me ready to rrrrreeeeetttttccccchhhh!
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| September 2, 2013, 8:14 am
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General Ian.

You are the only commander to achieve national extinction twice! On one hand, this is a less than flattering distinction. On the other hand, it shows that you have a bit of fight in you. You died with your boots on... twice! It's not whether or not you fall, but how you bounce. Hope to see you in about a year!

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| September 3, 2013, 9:13 am
Hmmm... This has been a very good game. I fully expect to die this next AW. Maybe I can hold on for 1 more AW though.

PEACE THROUGH STRENGTH, STRENGTH THROUGH WAR.

~ General McLegofreak

P.S. I have big plans for next year.
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| September 3, 2013, 2:51 pm
I see my former ally, Lucas, is starting to dominate this game. Forward, my animal loving friend. Forward...
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| September 4, 2013, 2:07 am
Quoting Bob the Almighty
I see my former ally, Lucas, is starting to dominate this game. Forward, my animal loving friend. Forward...

Thanks for the vote of confidence. I'm slightly surprised myself. However, big territory = big target so I'm not counting my chickens, koalas or giant pandas...
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| September 4, 2013, 3:34 am
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Quoting Stuart Lucas
big territory = big target


General Lucas. Well said. There is no way to be out in front without showing your tail to everybody else! Primal Scream has proven to the world that it is truly a primal team, not defined by rules, a genuine "hard corp." Loyal in… loyal out (unless you’re a little person…)

But time marches on, and before the world ends, I wonder, will we witness the birth of Primal Seam?

The Buda of Bacon... sits in Smokey silence. (insert haiku here).

Good luck in the remaining AWs!

And as nobody else can... Attack... like what? Six times?

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| September 4, 2013, 3:44 pm
The Buddha of bacon

cherry blossoms in summer

seated in smoke, wreathed.
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| September 4, 2013, 6:20 pm
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Quoting Ron L. Mitchell
The Buddha of bacon

cherry blossoms in summer

seated in smoke, wreathed.


Golf clap...
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| September 5, 2013, 8:46 am
Quoting Ron L. Mitchell
The Buddha of bacon

cherry blossoms in summer

seated in smoke, wreathed.

They grow up so fast. -sniff-
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| September 5, 2013, 9:13 am
Quoting Keith Goldman
Conspiracy Theory: I am Shifu.

Whoa! I knew it!
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| September 7, 2013, 7:25 pm
Quoting Keith Goldman

I am the true king of the sock-puppets! Not only am I Shifu, but I am also GE, Rowntree, and Ravenchist!

At last, the truth!
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| September 7, 2013, 7:36 pm
Quoting Keith Goldman
Looking at the banner today..."one click for a Roman orgy!"

Stay classy MOCpages, stay classy.

This site is unique in the hobby, it's value is entirely determined by it's participants, while the so-called "leadership" is absentee at best and mostly useless.

MOCpages..."we're all about the children"...no wait, it's an adult site...no wait...the children! What a joke.


And please Luke, no Soviet style editing on this one.

Ah, a classic. There were complaints about that a few months back, I'd thought it vanquished.
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| September 7, 2013, 8:41 pm
Quoting Keith Goldman
Conspiracy Theory: The members of Primal Scream have already decided amongst themselves who the victor will be and are acting accordingly.

Anyone care to respond / refute?

For the record, the DAS doesn't care in the slightest, as such a strategy is not forbidden by the rules.

While we do have some things planned for the DAS amusement, the winner has not been decided. The blood feast will commence when STUDS aka Spuds has been erased from the map...or at least down to one honored enemy.
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| September 7, 2013, 9:32 pm
...Feeling slightly proud of being the last surviving member of the once-mighty STUDS, although I fear Communism's eventual defeat...
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| September 8, 2013, 4:14 am
Moments before enemy forces invaded the AMN's last territory, many of our top officials, soldiers and citizens boarded our huge MOONRAKER-class rocket and launched to outer space. We are now in our massive and undetectable space station, preparing to rain pods of death upon the earth for our revenge! (And yes, there is a superspy aboard, but it is me so nothing bad will come of it.)
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| September 8, 2013, 7:38 am
I must say that the map is a lovely shade of Primal Scream.

Thank you Keith for the quick results.
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| September 8, 2013, 9:44 am
Quoting Nick Barrett
...Feeling slightly proud of being the last surviving member of the once-mighty STUDS, although I fear Communism's eventual defeat...

Hat's off to you, may dark red replace pink across the globe.
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| September 8, 2013, 11:35 am
Quoting General X (aka SuperSpyX)
Moments before enemy forces invaded... is me so nothing bad will come of it.)

I want to thank you, Gen. Spy Man, for your “X that marked the spot”, EA33, that I had been “eyeing” early on only to see it disappear from my grasp in “shades of marbled green”! You kept EA33 visible with such a Royal shade of purple too! Cheers to you! Your R.A.T. Trap is still a favorite of mine! :)
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| September 8, 2013, 2:15 pm
Hello All! Many of you may not remember me. A few will. Following the Infamous MOCPages Crash, nearly all of my Lego pictures from my creations were irreparably deleted. Everyone else's came back. Mine never did. I was rising in popularity, with creations getting over 5o likes and being featured, and then CRASH. All gone. So I lost interest and decided to box up the Legos for awhile. But I want to come back. Im at college and wont have access to Legos for a few more weeks, but then Ill be set. This group really looks like my cup of tea, Ive been in groups like this before. So, is this group still open for me to get involved? I wont be able to post creations for two more weeks, but then I'll be able to churn them out as much as I want. So may I please jump in? I know Im a late arrival, but I want to get back on the pages. I want my Dark Ages to end.
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| September 8, 2013, 10:48 pm
And if nobody responds to me decisively within a day or two Ill make a new thread maybe.
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| September 8, 2013, 10:49 pm
Let me also say, I love the idea of likes affecting a creations fighting power or whatnot, could someone please explain that to me more extensively?
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| September 8, 2013, 10:53 pm
Quoting Josh Cooper
So may I please jump in? I know Im a late arrival, but I want to get back on the pages. I want my Dark Ages to end.

Sorry, this game is about to end (Sept 30). You'll have to wait for Decisive Action 2.0, which is planned for (I believe) next year, and will have a lot of improvements from this first unstable release. Glad you decided to come back! :)
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| September 9, 2013, 6:17 am
Quoting Josh Cooper
Let me also say, I love the idea of likes affecting a creations fighting power or whatnot, could someone please explain that to me more extensively?

Simple version: The number of smileys your creation gets is divided by 2 and added to your number of territories, this is your offensive/defensive number for that moc. Example: I have three territories and a defensive moc with 14 likes. 3TP (Territory Power) + (14/2=7) smileys = 10 DP (Defensive Power). So this moc could repel an attack of 10 AP (Attack Power) or less.
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| September 9, 2013, 6:23 am
Welcome back to the pages Josh. Your time of arrival is great as you will be in on who will be crowned victor! But as to joining the fight, X is correct, the game ends at the end of this month. Plan ahead for next year!!!! Design and get your Bricklink orders made, and then let loose the dogs of war!
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| September 9, 2013, 8:31 am
Hello Josh. I would recommend, if you have the time, to read through the threads. Of course the rules and gameplay are outlined throughout, but you'll get to see the wonderful nuances that the game bred and Michael and Keith's enjoyable commentary. This was the first installment of DA so there are some bugs to work out. But I highly recommend that you look for DA2.0 next year. As fun and challenging as this was, I'm certain that 2.0 will be even greater. Join in early.
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| September 9, 2013, 10:23 am
Awww that's too bad! But yes I''ll be sure to extensively read the threads and learn the ins and outs of the game, and I'll be certain to make a strong entrance in DA 2.0. Thanks for the help guys!
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| September 9, 2013, 12:11 pm
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Quoting Nick Barrett
...Feeling slightly proud of being the last surviving member of the once-mighty STUDS, although I fear Communism's eventual defeat...


General Barret.

None can contest your accomplishments. Starting late as you did, you have still accomplished more in terms of MOCs and territorial conquest than the majority of our commanders ever do!

Keep your boots on and march until the bitter end. Make those who oppose you pay for every step into your territory!

Long live the peoples revolution!

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| September 9, 2013, 2:53 pm
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Quoting Josh Cooper
So, is this group still open for me to get involved? I wont be able to post creations for two more weeks...


Mr. Cooper.

Welcome to Decisive Action! Sorry to say it, but we just have a few short weeks left, after which we will shutter the windows until sometime next year.

You are more than welcome to stick around and offer your opinion though.

How you enjoy the show.

Attack!

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| September 9, 2013, 2:57 pm
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Quoting Josh Cooper
Let me also say, I love the idea of likes affecting a creations fighting power or whatnot, could someone please explain that to me more extensively?


Mr. cooper.

We have the system hidden over on the thread called "Rules".

But the short version is this: "Yellow heads = Combat Power.

The intent is to persuade both better building (as better builds usually garner higher levels of approval) and to incentivize interlayer communication (as asking for yellow heads requires communication).

Bothe goals seem to be met in the case of DA. As a result of this mechanism, I think we have encouraged the production of a large number of MOCs, rewarding quality efforts, and producing thousands of reviews that would otherwise never have been written.

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| September 9, 2013, 3:02 pm
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Our population of nations diminishes by 4. As Mr. Goldman phrased it: Mostly book keeping at this point. Just a little cleaning up of the battle field before the apex predators decide the true fate of the world.

General Hammond: Never committed to victory above the "Economy of Effort" level. A master of logical and economic decisions, working in concert with his son from the first turn. You ran afoul of General McLegofreak early on, and provided the world with some top shelf cut and thrust fighting. Your brief deployment of a sock puppet in Africa did little to stem your extinction later in play however, shortly before your complete checkout from the battle. Still, forensic examination of your remains does prove that you did in fact die with your boots on. Well done sir!

General X: Loud from the start, and difficult to ignore! 6.5 on the SMACK-DEX. Usually in the fight, and occasionally even winning! Boots? Firmly on at time of death. Well done sir!

General O: One of our first commanders. A strong start early on... but you quickly lost intrest and emotionally checked out. You have been inert for most of the game, and your passing is mostly an administrative function at this point. And yet, even though you quit trying, you never actually quit playing. Tag him up, bag him up, and dropp him in the pit. Boots? On! Well done sir!

General McLegofreak: An angry fellow with lots of opinions. Let it never be said that you allowed the rules to get in the way of your shouting! You got off to a rough start in South America, caught between Mr. Electric and the Generals Hammond. But you stuck to it, and enjoyed a brief rally before your candle was snuffed by an African breeze. Eat a dirt sandwich. Boots? On! Well done sir!

All of you went out fighting. No emotional show, no drama. Only the fight, and the defeat that await all but one.

I hope to see you all on the high ground next year.

Attack!

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| September 9, 2013, 3:20 pm
The 'Shire is glomming

The winter wind and low sun sing a dirge

Chill of the grave

(to glom -- "to grasp" usually in a good sense)

a prophetic Haiku rendered by Calivus the Seer of Glomshire
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| September 9, 2013, 5:42 pm
A question to both Michael and Keith: Is this the result you wanted, expected, or even hoped for in the game? I am mostly curious due to the beautiful machinations of the game itself. You two must have been leaning in some way to a preferred end. I just wanted to know if it was all that you wanted it to be? I can surmise that both of you tend towards the more strategic flavor of gameplay; yet, you removed yourself from observing the actual back alley dealings. Some forethought that the act of observing alters the outcome? I know for a fact that you both would have been giddy with pleasure at having access to the TOs. Will you act as "observer only" in 2.0?

My curiosity drives no particular gear, only curiosity. And, perhaps, now is not the time or thread to answer. I have just noticed that your restraint all along to not pull any strings when you created this is highly admirable and impressive. If it is simply to be the "Prime Movers" in this endeavor, so be it. But, again, curiosity about your goals for the game are what I'd like to know more about.
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| September 9, 2013, 10:28 pm
Quoting Josh Cooper
Following the Infamous MOCPages Crash

Oh god, I remember that day. I was there. I was a but KFOL and I witnessed hundreds of pictures disappear. I have to say, that crash killed what might of been Mocpage's finest hour (07-11)
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| September 10, 2013, 12:23 am
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Quoting matt rowntRee
Some forethought that the act of observing alters the outcome?




King rowntRee GN.

The main reason for staying out of the TOs is to prevent claims that we are in any way "Trafficking in information" or "Shepherding our favorites". We are the ref's and we have to make calls that often fly in the face of the commanders. This is a competitive environment, so the objectivity of the DAS must be protected at all costs.

If the players ever lose faith in the ref's objectivity... the show is over.

So the DAS (Ref's) don't play, don't monitor, and only advise and cat call in public forums, where all players can benefit equally.

Goals for DA are discussed on the home page(Down under the map...wayyyy down there). The goals that drive us to run DA are actually a bit removed from the goals of the players.

Players want to win, and maybe socialize a bit.

The DAS wants to encourage the production of good MOCs, and encourage communication (of any kind) between members of MOCpages.

I have always thought that most MOC reviews are pretty lame. And by increasing the number of reviews left, I aim to elevate the quality of reviewing.

It's got very little to do with the knife fight that is the game itslef.

As for DA 2.0... The separation of DAS and Commander will remain. That is one feature that I think has worked very well in this game.

After the end of the world, we will have an After Action Review thread, and talk a lot more of this stuff to ground. I will enumerate some of the changes you can expect, as well as what aspects of DA I will hold on to.

Ragnarock is almost upon us, but after the end, I will be looking for some detailed feedback from my invested players!

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| September 10, 2013, 10:45 am
There are reports of mass demonstrations taking place in many of SEAL's major cities, as our animal loving citizens protest about the serial pig-slaughtering activities of our neighbours and erstwhile allies, the Moto Moto Republic. Urgent diplomatic representations have been made to the Moto Moto high council to request that they moderate their bloodlust for bacon.
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| September 12, 2013, 2:13 pm
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Quoting Stuart Lucas
There are reports of mass demonstrations taking place in many of SEAL's major cities, as our animal loving citizens protest about the serial pig-slaughtering activities of our neighbours and erstwhile allies, the Moto Moto Republic. Urgent diplomatic representations have been made to the Moto Moto high council to request that they moderate their bloodlust for bacon.


Maybe we can get Puten to write an open letter about it!

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| September 12, 2013, 4:21 pm
Quoting Michael Rutherford

Maybe we can get Puten to write an open letter about it!

ROFL!!!!
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| September 12, 2013, 7:17 pm
Like, put our bacon stockpile under international control? Never!
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| September 12, 2013, 7:20 pm
Gentlemen, you can't fight in here. It's a war room.

Remember, Pepto-bismol can help with any bacon or granola related indigestion. Our vast stockpiles can aid anyone for the right price.
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| September 12, 2013, 8:29 pm
Quoting Master Shifu Leo J
Like, put our bacon stockpile under international control? Never!

Bacon Stockpile?? So you admit that your wanton porcicide far exceeds your nation's actual dietary needs. We request immediate access for independent observers to assess the nature and scale of your bacon enrichment operations.

In other news, SEAL nutritionists report that the recommended daily amount of all vital proteins, vitamins and minerals found in bacon can easily be obtained from a refreshing, if almost entirely flavourless, seaweed soup.
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| September 13, 2013, 8:08 am
Quoting Keith Goldman

I wrote you a response but it got hung up in moderation. If i don't see it in a couple of days I'll try again.

Sounds foreboding. ;)
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| September 13, 2013, 9:20 am
Quoting Stuart Lucas
Bacon Stockpile?? So you admit that your wanton porcicide far exceeds your nation's actual dietary needs. We request immediate access for independent observers to assess the nature and scale of your bacon enrichment operations.

In other news, SEAL nutritionists report that the recommended daily amount of all vital proteins, vitamins and minerals found in bacon can easily be obtained from a refreshing, if almost entirely flavourless, seaweed soup.

Take care what you ask.

Tasteless soup may be bitter

if Blix loves bacon.


Now tell me this, in what other game could I write that Haiku where it would somehow apply or make any sense? DA rocks.
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| September 13, 2013, 9:40 am
Hog-N-Wild Picayune News Update

In an abrupt turn of events, the Sovereignty of Extreme Animal Lovers has demanded a change in the dietary needs of the Moto Moto Republic. This is like Denise Austin updating the food pyramid from four layers to seven and maliciously omitting bacon as a major food group. Absurd! Sure, we like our lettuce and tomatoes, but it ain't a BLT without bacon. It ain't filet mignon without bacon. And it ain't Canadian bacon without ... huh? what? ... never mind ... The Moto Moto Republic brass has gathered in the Capitol, affectionately nicknamed "The Mud Pit", to cool down tempers and discuss possible military action against S.E.A.L. - Chloe Sterol, H-N-W field reporter.
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| September 13, 2013, 1:25 pm
Quoting Topsy Creatori (StoveTopCreator!)
Keith or Michael, I have written 2 lovely Haiku's that have not appeared. Please approve them. I cannot change the word in question... it's a Haiku! The word is perfectly acceptable in UCDavis Animal Science classes! ;)

Thanks for approving. Unfortunately, I had to edit it and it went back into limbo! I know this is a pain!
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| September 13, 2013, 2:27 pm
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Quoting Topsy Creatori (StoveTopCreator!)
In response to recent verbiage beginning to appear in the DA conversation strand stating concerns for the welfare of pigs,
The Eastern(and now Western) Greco-Roman Dictatorial Republic has chosen to support these concerns. In praise of our porcine pals’ little known habits of teamwork and cleanliness, Gen. Creatori has written two Haikus in their honor…

Haiku#1
When piglets are hungry,

All must suckle together.

No teat works alone!


Haiku #2
They wallow in mud.

Yet when kept dryly confined…

They poop in one spot!

And cue the golf clap...

and now a Haiku of my own...


Let’s get to the point.

What does this mean primal team?

Is this primal seam?

(Sombody light some incense!)
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| September 13, 2013, 2:33 pm
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Quoting Topsy Creatori (StoveTopCreator!)
Thanks for approving. Unfortunately, I had to edit it and it went back into limbo! I know this is a pain!


What did you do?

Edit... but leav in the word poop?

Stand by...
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| September 13, 2013, 2:34 pm
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Quoting Topsy Creatori (StoveTopCreator!)
Thanks for approving. Unfortunately, I had to edit it and it went back into limbo! I know this is a pain!

Hey I just checked and the comments awaiting moderation thing is empty. Maybe it's not "there" yet? I will check again in a minute or two.
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| September 13, 2013, 2:35 pm
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Quoting Master Shifu Leo J
Hog-N-Wild Picayune News Update

In an abrupt turn of events, the Sovereignty of Extreme Animal Lovers has demanded a change in the dietary needs of the Moto Moto Republic. This is like Denise Austin updating the food pyramid from four layers to seven and maliciously omitting bacon as a major food group. Absurd! Sure, we like our lettuce and tomatoes, but it ain't a BLT without bacon. It ain't filet mignon without bacon. And it ain't Canadian bacon without ... huh? what? ... never mind ... The Moto Moto Republic brass has gathered in the Capitol, affectionately nicknamed "The Mud Pit", to cool down tempers and discuss possible military action against S.E.A.L. - Chloe Sterol, H-N-W field reporter.


General Shifo.

I'm having trouble seeing this as anything more than stage acting.

The world wants to know... "How real is the tension between the members of the world’s strongest former TO right now?"

This is no prelude to war. This is market place theater!

Show me some big red arrow vs. big blue arrow action on the map!

Your voice is so rarely heard these days...do not spend your words in this poorly scripted penny a page drama!

Illuminate the world with your insight, and send your enemies to that place that is without bacon!

Cry Hickory!

And let slip the hogs of war!



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| September 13, 2013, 2:42 pm
Quoting Michael Rutherford

Cry Hickory!

And let slip the hogs of war!



I nearly hurt myself laughing!!!!
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| September 13, 2013, 3:08 pm
Well Keith, your response exceeds my expectations. I vaguely understand that you have had issues with the pages, but seeing that there is a glimmer of hope to keep you here in spite of the always present problems, actually pleases me greatly. MP has its issues and there is no avoiding them. But, it is after all Lego and all in good fun.

You and Michael have made this beyond fun and challenging and entertaining. And if your plans are to enter the game as a player next go, I look forward to it. Ally or enemy, you will be formidable.

I still know that GE was your mom. Don't deny it. ;)

Thank you both for the insight and honesty. Much respect for that.

matt
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| September 13, 2013, 10:05 pm
Quoting Michael Rutherford

Cry Hickory!

And let slip the hogs of war!



I yield to your brilliance. Golf clap? No! Standing ovation. Nothing less!
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| September 13, 2013, 10:11 pm
It's quiet around here. I half expect the lights to dim and the overture to begin.

By the pricking of my thumb,
something wicked this way comes.

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| September 13, 2013, 11:50 pm
Well Keith, there appears to be a Chinese standoff over in the "Attack" thread. Either that, or the puppets decided to cut their own strings and determine their own fate. Personally, I think someone just started up the fan into which something may hit. I believe that I can safely tell you to warm up your calculator, you will need it.

Mmmmm tacos.
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| September 14, 2013, 12:22 am
Quoting Keith Goldman
The turn already feels different...everyone waiting until the end? Or is the death of General Barrett a single-act play? I'm breathless with antici.....pation.

R.I.P. General Barrett...eulogy to follow the official results. I will say however, that a titan has fallen, and my early dark-horse candidate to win the whole thing.

So what will it be, Primal Scream?

Well, that was fun! Thank you Mike and Keith, I will be back next year, from turn 1... I'll hang around first though, just to see who comes out on top, now that PS have no-one to fight except each other.
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| September 14, 2013, 3:17 am
Poor Barrett, alas, I barely knew him...
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| September 14, 2013, 8:58 am
21 thunderclaps rent the air
A body lies, good and fair.

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| September 14, 2013, 9:37 am
Contrary to the popular belief, I do still check the group. Cool speech Keith. You are a fun judge and a fun dude.
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| September 14, 2013, 6:01 pm
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