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Abortion is wrong.
Quoting Harrison H.
I think abortion is wrong. Like Boss Nass said in the Obmama topic. Each baby is created by God in Heaven. Then we just destroy it because we don't want to give birth. I think it is the persons punishment to have the baby then give it away so it can be adopted. Back on topic: I think its sick that someone would have such sexual desires to do that and then just kill the baby. And no guys I don't care if you say,"WELL TECHNICLY ITS NOT LIVING." yes it is living and it has a spirit. I'm sure this will bring up some discussions of what if the person was raped.
YES!!!!! THE BABY IS ALIVE!!

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| November 12, 2010, 9:27 am
Quoting Harrison H.
Quoting Bob the inconceivably invincible
Quoting Harrison H.
I think abortion is wrong. Like Boss Nass said in the Obmama topic. Each baby is created by God in Heaven. Then we just destroy it because we don't want to give birth. I think it is the persons punishment to have the baby then give it away so it can be adopted. Back on topic: I think its sick that someone would have such sexual desires to do that and then just kill the baby. And no guys I don't care if you say,"WELL TECHNICLY ITS NOT LIVING." yes it is living and it has a spirit. I'm sure this will bring up some discussions of what if the person was raped.
YES!!!!! THE BABY IS ALIVE!!
Someone who actually reads the Bible understands!

the bible says that if someone kills a baby, aka abort it, then its eye for eye tooth for tooth, life for life, and he will be sentenced to death, to bad we dont have that law anymore
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| November 12, 2010, 10:56 am
Cool story, bro. What's you view on the pill and the rubber?
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| November 13, 2010, 4:15 am
Quoting Harrison H.
Quoting Bob the inconceivably invincible
Quoting Harrison H.
I think abortion is wrong. Like Boss Nass said in the Obmama topic. Each baby is created by God in Heaven. Then we just destroy it because we don't want to give birth. I think it is the persons punishment to have the baby then give it away so it can be adopted. Back on topic: I think its sick that someone would have such sexual desires to do that and then just kill the baby. And no guys I don't care if you say,"WELL TECHNICLY ITS NOT LIVING." yes it is living and it has a spirit. I'm sure this will bring up some discussions of what if the person was raped.
YES!!!!! THE BABY IS ALIVE!!
Someone who actually reads the Bible understands!
I know not just from reading the Bible, but also from biological facts.

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| November 13, 2010, 10:37 am
Quoting Harrison H.
Quoting Anders Cutterhill
Cool story, bro. What's you view on the pill and the rubber?
They will be asked questions about this stuff when they enter Heaven.

Really? I'm very interested In rules and related things in the Bible, so please direct me to the particular verse where it says so. :)

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| November 13, 2010, 4:41 pm
 Group admin 
Quoting Anders Cutterhill
Cool story, bro. What's you view on the pill and the rubber?

wrong
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| November 14, 2010, 1:11 am
Quoting Lt. John Harland
wrong

Wrong what?
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| November 14, 2010, 3:13 am
I am honestly kind of fine with it. Think about it; It isn't the baby's choice to weather or not it is born anyway, plus the stem cells can go to research. There is this girl in my class, she had a baby this summer, she is 13 years old. Especially at an age like that, a decision like that is needed. She had the baby and takes care of it. Plus, those desires are natural. It's instinct. So those feelings are to be expected....
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| November 14, 2010, 11:39 am
Quoting Harrison H.

If the schools hadn't gone and taught that and there was no pressure to have a boyfriend she wouldn't have either. And she did have the desires because it is a natural part of life. can't be avoided.
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| November 16, 2010, 1:05 pm
Quoting Boss Nass
Sexual desire is natural. It is not sinful. HOWEVER, it is when it gets out of control, and commiting the sin CAN be avoided. God always provides a way out of temptation.

Last time I checked, having a kid is not sinful.
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| November 16, 2010, 3:52 pm
Quoting Harrison H.
Quoting Matthew Novosad
I am honestly kind of fine with it. Think about it; It isn't the baby's choice to weather or not it is born anyway, plus the stem cells can go to research. There is this girl in my class, she had a baby this summer, she is 13 years old. Especially at an age like that, a decision like that is needed. She had the baby and takes care of it. Plus, those desires are natural. It's instinct. So those feelings are to be expected....
If the 13 year old girl didn't have sexual desires none of that would have ever happened. Humanity is falling into humanism nowadays I think because sometimes we just ignore God and only wish to please ourselves.

Also, when has God really ever listened to us? If he loves us so much then he should be the one paying attention.
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| November 16, 2010, 3:55 pm
Also, some people may say I am a hypocrite because I say I have control over those things. I have no need for a girlfriend/relationship so those feelings are extinguished.
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| November 16, 2010, 3:58 pm
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Quoting Boss Nass
He DOES listen to us.

Agreed
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| November 16, 2010, 10:32 pm
Quoting Boss Nass
He DOES listen to us.

So if he listens to us then why is there: War, Disease, agony, poverty ETC. He doesn't.
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| November 18, 2010, 7:24 pm
Think Of It this way its pretty much a live person...except its not out of the womb...so if i were to be in something and someone killed me would it not be murder? Anyways i think abortion is wrong because your taking the live of a tiny baby.
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| November 25, 2010, 4:17 pm
Quoting john shilou
Think Of It this way its pretty much a live person...except its not out of the womb...so if i were to be in something and someone killed me would it not be murder? Anyways i think abortion is wrong because your taking the live of a tiny baby.

So going with Bob the inconceivability's thinking, you want to be mindless bots free of thought, so wouldn't the baby be better of no even born yet then if you want it not to go through that?
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| November 26, 2010, 12:13 pm
Quoting Boss Nass
I agree. You can't expect God to answer all of your prayers in the way that you want Him to. The world has death because Adam and Eve sinned. God is not Santa Claus... But one thing I disagree with: You said poverty is the product of laziness. Some people inherit poverty or a bad situation, or in the case of Africa, the governments are to weak to prevent warlords from taking over and pillaging the region. In the Industrial Revolution, people were impoverished because the only available jobs were low paying. In the Great Depression, people were reduced to rags because the stock market crashed and their companies couldn't afford to pay them. It wasn't because they were didn't pay attention/help themselves.

Last time I checked, if you truly love something, you give to and help that person/s/thing/s. So in truth then, he mustn't truly love us then.
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| November 26, 2010, 12:14 pm
Quoting Harrison H.
Its a fact of life. If we didn't have those there would be no need for Heaven. He does listen to us but you can't just pray that nobody will ever get sick again. Its also back in Genesis whenever Adam and Eve ate the fruit of the Devil. When they did that Humans became imperfect and sinful. If we are imperfect that means we are not invulnerable to disease. War is there because of Greed and Desire for power. Poverty is what happens when you don't pay attention in school and/or you don't go to college and help yourself make a good life for yourself. The people in Africa will probably be brought up but I do know some of them are probably sinful. You obviously have a doubt in God also.

I said my response in another comment.
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| November 26, 2010, 12:15 pm
Quoting Matthew Novosad
So going with Bob the inconceivability's thinking, you want to be mindless bots free of thought, so wouldn't the baby be better of no even born yet then if you want it not to go through that?

God wants us to go through life, and not to deprive others of it. I don't know why, so don't ask me, ask God.
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| November 26, 2010, 3:39 pm
Quoting Matthew Novosad
Last time I checked, if you truly love something, you give to and help that person/s/thing/s. So in truth then, he mustn't truly love us then.

Let me ask you this. Do you believe that God created you? Because if so, then it logically follows that you believe God has a right to you. After all, if you invent something, then you have the right to destroy that thing or put it in a place of honor. It's not as if you can build a credit with God. Psalm 50:10 says "For every animal of the forest is Mine (God's), and the cattle on a thousand hills." Well, in ancient times, wealth was measured by cattle. David's saying that you can't build a credit with God because He already owns everything! All He could ever want. And we have all sinned. You have sinned. I have sinned. That means God doesn't owe you anything. He doesn't owe you health, we doesn't owe you family, He doesn't owe you a house, He doesn't even owe you your life. But are you breathing? Do you have food? Do you have family? Are you reasonably healthy? Then God must love you an enormous amount to let you have any of that when He doesn't owe you a bit. I call that love. Someone who keeps giving to a person that they don't get anything back from.
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| November 28, 2010, 10:35 pm
Quoting Harrison H.
I think abortion is wrong. Like Boss Nass said in the Obmama topic. Each baby is created by God in Heaven.

daaaaahhhhhaaaaahhhhh
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| December 2, 2010, 2:14 pm
Quoting General Govostes
daaaaahhhhhaaaaahhhhh

Was that comment meant to be spam?
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| December 2, 2010, 2:14 pm
Quoting Anders Cutterhill
Was that comment meant as spam?

nope its just realy obvious
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| December 2, 2010, 2:15 pm
Quoting General Govostes
nope its just realy obvious

Obvious spam, then.
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| December 2, 2010, 2:17 pm
Quoting Anders Cutterhill
Obvious spam, then.

no i mean abortion is obviously wrong
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| December 2, 2010, 2:20 pm
Quoting General Govostes
no i mean abortion is obviously wrong

Well, if was so obvious, why did you even point it out in the first place?
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| December 2, 2010, 2:24 pm
Quoting Anders Cutterhill
Well, if was so obvious, why did you even point it out in the first place?

please stop

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| December 2, 2010, 2:25 pm
Quoting General Govostes
please stop

Alrighty, then.
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| December 2, 2010, 2:27 pm
why are you guys arguing don't do this phaze will come and destroy this group
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| December 2, 2010, 2:33 pm
Quoting Awe's Pie
Calm down. We're here to debate, not argue. Relax!

I'm already calm, mah boi. I just wondered why he posted a seemingly pointless comment in a topic that hadn't got anything interesting added in three days.

Quoting lt. fisher
why are you guys arguing don't do this phaze will come and destroy this group

lolwut?
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| December 2, 2010, 2:34 pm
u guys i am making the new AOT
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| December 2, 2010, 2:43 pm
Quoting lt. fisher
u guys i am making the new AOT

The old one was only successful because of the Internet Drama that attracted people.
That, and all the clonies wanted to be in a group that über-Commander Fed was running.
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| December 2, 2010, 2:45 pm
 Group moderator 
Quoting Anders Cutterhill
The old one was only successful because of the Internet Drama that attracted people.
That, and all the clonies wanted to be in a group that über-Commander Fed was running.

Why does every one love clones?
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| December 2, 2010, 3:07 pm
Quoting Harrison H.
I think abortion is wrong. Like Boss Nass said in the Obmama topic. Each baby is created by God in Heaven. Then we just destroy it because we don't want to give birth. I think it is the persons punishment to have the baby then give it away so it can be adopted. Back on topic: I think its sick that someone would have such sexual desires to do that and then just kill the baby. And no guys I don't care if you say,"WELL TECHNICLY ITS NOT LIVING." yes it is living and it has a spirit. I'm sure this will bring up some discussions of what if the person was raped.

haha kinda creepy... we just studied this in Bible class...
anyway, I believe that even if a woman was raped, they do not have the right to abandon the child or have an abortion, etc.
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| December 8, 2010, 6:46 pm
Quoting Matthew Novosad
Last time I checked, if you truly love something, you give to and help that person/s/thing/s. So in truth then, he mustn't truly love us then.

He gave us the world and air to breathe and stuff to eat. Is that not enough?
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| December 15, 2010, 9:06 am
Quoting Stephen Michel
He gave us the world and air to breathe and stuff to eat. Is that not enough?

I respect your opinion and all, but I still believe in the Big Bang, evolution, etc. So basically I think he intervened somewhere, but there was already basic life here.
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| December 15, 2010, 3:09 pm
Quoting Matthew Novosad
I respect your opinion and all, but I still believe in the Big Bang, evolution, etc. So basically I think he intervened somewhere, but there was already basic life here.

Yeah my dad thinks that God made the world with the big bang. They both start the same way, except God says something(creation) and things pop up out of nowhere.
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| December 16, 2010, 9:42 am
Quoting Harrison H.
I think abortion is wrong. Like Boss Nass said in the Obmama topic. Each baby is created by God in Heaven. Then we just destroy it because we don't want to give birth. I think it is the persons punishment to have the baby then give it away so it can be adopted. Back on topic: I think its sick that someone would have such sexual desires to do that and then just kill the baby. And no guys I don't care if you say,"WELL TECHNICLY ITS NOT LIVING." yes it is living and it has a spirit. I'm sure this will bring up some discussions of what if the person was raped.
Everybody lives, everybody dies,life is a terminal illness and people don't deserve to die when they have not lived.

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| December 18, 2010, 12:49 pm
 Group admin 
This is a pointless and controversial topic. Please do not start more of this thread.

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| December 19, 2010, 8:06 pm
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