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| September 30, 2013, 11:30 pm
Quoting Caleb R
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Why is this contest so awesome?
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| September 30, 2013, 11:32 pm
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Quoting Stephen Boe
Why is this contest so awesome?

Because it is original? I am not sure how to answer this =P
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| September 30, 2013, 11:43 pm
Round 1's schedule?
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| October 1, 2013, 12:24 pm
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Quoting BRICK IT Productions
Round 1's schedule?

October 14th-24th. Unless we get 100 members before them.
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| October 1, 2013, 12:31 pm
Quoting Caleb R
October 14th-24th. Unless we get 100 members before them.

SOunds like a tight schedule. I'll see what I can do.
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| October 1, 2013, 7:56 pm
Quoting Gerald F.
SOunds like a tight schedule. I'll see what I can do.

You're kidding right?

I have nine/ten days to build a full-scale model...
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| October 1, 2013, 8:22 pm
Quoting Stormjay Rider
You're kidding right?

I have nine/ten days to build a full-scale model...


I wish I were. School's got me pretty occupied. I built something ahead though, just in case I get too busy by that week, so hopefully it may be a suitable entry for a category.
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| October 1, 2013, 9:52 pm
Quoting Gerald F.
Quoting Stormjay Rider
You're kidding right?

I have nine/ten days to build a full-scale model...


I wish I were. School's got me pretty occupied. I built something ahead though, just in case I get too busy by that week, so hopefully it may be a suitable entry for a category.

It's on a four by four plate. It shouldn't take very long.

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| October 1, 2013, 10:10 pm
Quoting Stephen Boe
It's on a four by four plate. It shouldn't take very long.

Depends how ambitious you are. I might motorize my entry.
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| October 1, 2013, 10:14 pm
Quoting Stephen Boe
It's on a four by four plate. It shouldn't take very long.

It didn't really. Probably like 8-10 mins cause I have to search 3 big boxes to find the bricks I need. :P. Hopefully it may fit a category. Otherwise I've wasted my time.
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| October 1, 2013, 10:23 pm
When Will the categories be posted?
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| October 2, 2013, 7:46 pm
Does one lose points of evaluation if there is an overhang much shorter than a stud long?
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| October 2, 2013, 8:29 pm
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Quoting Gerald F.
Does one lose points of evaluation if there is an overhang much shorter than a stud long?

There can be overhang, just so long as it isn't a brick.
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| October 2, 2013, 9:19 pm
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Quoting Gerald F.
When Will the categories be posted?

14th of October
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| October 2, 2013, 9:19 pm
Sweet! I can't wait till the round starts, I have so many good ideas in mind. Will the categories be based on themes or on building scales (micro, minifig,midi,etc.)?
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| October 5, 2013, 1:23 pm
If it is on a 4x4 plate can you build it several stacks high and then flip it onto its side?
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| October 6, 2013, 12:31 pm
As for the overhang rule, does this (http://www.bricklink.com/search.asp?q=48336) count as an overhang element?
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| October 6, 2013, 12:57 pm
Is the thickness of a tile too much overhang? Like a tile SNOTed to the side of a 4x4?
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| October 6, 2013, 1:31 pm
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Quoting Stormjay Rider
As for the overhang rule, does this (http://www.bricklink.com/search.asp?q=48336) count as an overhang element?

I don't believe so, it's not a full sized brick, like a 4x2
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| October 6, 2013, 1:34 pm
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Quoting Stormjay Rider
As for the overhang rule, does this (http://www.bricklink.com/search.asp?q=48336) count as an overhang element?

No, that can overhang.
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| October 6, 2013, 10:26 pm
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Quoting General X (aka SuperSpyX)
Is the thickness of a tile too much overhang? Like a tile SNOTed to the side of a 4x4?

I am not completely sure what you mean, but unless it is a normal brick, sloped brick, or modified brick, it can overhang a little bit.
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| October 6, 2013, 10:27 pm
So you said that parts like figures' arms can overhang. What about the arms/other body parts of hardsuits?
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| October 6, 2013, 11:09 pm
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Quoting Halhi 141
So you said that parts like figures' arms can overhang. What about the arms/other body parts of hardsuits?

That will be fine, unless the hardsuit is really big. If the hardsuit isn't too much bigger than a person (maybe like midiland size) then that would be okay.
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| October 6, 2013, 11:13 pm
Come on guys! Don't try to bend the rules, the fun of the challenge is trying to make your ideas fit.
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| October 7, 2013, 6:21 am
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Quoting The Object of Legend
Come on guys! Don't try to bend the rules, the fun of the challenge is trying to make your ideas fit.

So far I think this has mostly been clarification, not bending the rules. But you do have a point. If anyone is considering asking a question, first think about whether it is a question of clarification, or if it is a question you think is bending the rules. If it is the former, feel free to ask, if it is the latter, don't ask, try to find a way around it!
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| October 7, 2013, 6:58 am
How much of a minifigure would have to be over the 4 x 4 plate to count as overhang?
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| October 7, 2013, 12:36 pm
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Quoting Stephen Boe
How much of a minifigure would have to be over the 4 x 4 plate to count as overhang?

The minifigure can pretty much overhang as much as it needs, just so long as it is attached in the 4x4.
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| October 7, 2013, 7:07 pm
How much of a SNOTted brick counts as overhang?
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| October 8, 2013, 12:32 pm
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Quoting Stormjay Rider
How much of a SNOTted brick counts as overhang?

I am not sure what you mean, but a SNOTed build cannot exceed 32 bricks tall.
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| October 8, 2013, 10:10 pm
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Quoting Caleb of Enalica
I am not sure what you mean, but a SNOTed build cannot exceed 32 bricks tall.

So has the schedule changed??? Or is the end date still the 24th???
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| October 9, 2013, 3:50 pm
Quoting Caleb of Enalica
I am not sure what you mean, but a SNOTed build cannot exceed 32 bricks tall.

How about a tile placed on a headlight brick that projects exactly 1/5 of a stud (half a tile's thickness) beyond the baseplate's boundaries, or anything else of that nature? Is there a larger margin of error, say half a stud? Do tiles and flat pieces count as "bricks" as described in the rules? What about Technic/Bionicle pieces? Minifigures and parts based on the clip system (weapons, rods, accessories, hoses, etc.) seem to be excluded from the definition of "bricks"; is that so?

Sorry about the deluge of questions. I thought that those should probably encompass everything, so I threw them out there.
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| October 9, 2013, 4:41 pm
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Quoting Matt W.
So has the schedule changed??? Or is the end date still the 24th???

We started early because we got 100 members, so it's the 18th now.
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| October 9, 2013, 9:15 pm
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Quoting Gilbert Despathens
How about a tile placed on a headlight brick that projects exactly 1/5 of a stud (half a tile's thickness) beyond the baseplate's boundaries, or anything else of that nature? Is there a larger margin of error, say half a stud? Do tiles and flat pieces count as "bricks" as described in the rules? What about Technic/Bionicle pieces? Minifigures and parts based on the clip system (weapons, rods, accessories, hoses, etc.) seem to be excluded from the definition of "bricks"; is that so?

Sorry about the deluge of questions. I thought that those should probably encompass everything, so I threw them out there.

There is a bit of room for margin, tiles and flat pieces can overhang, they just cannot have anything bricks on top of them that overhang. Minifigures and all of which you just listed are acceptable, but they cannot overhang too much. If you want to overhang it too much, you risk disqualification, or at least a lower score.

For example, this is too much overhang with figures (yes, this is actually from last year's guide to WHAT is acceptable, but the rules have changed).
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| October 9, 2013, 9:17 pm
Quoting Caleb R
Ask them here


Are flames allowed to overhang?
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| October 10, 2013, 7:24 am
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Quoting Dylan Something

Are flames allowed to overhang?

Yes they are
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| October 10, 2013, 9:20 am
Quoting Caleb of Enalica
I am not sure what you mean, but a SNOTed build cannot exceed 32 bricks tall.

I mean I have some SNOTwork greebling in my build, which extends for about half a stud's width over the edge. What about that?
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| October 10, 2013, 12:47 pm
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Quoting Stormjay Rider
I mean I have some SNOTwork greebling in my build, which extends for about half a stud's width over the edge. What about that?

That is acceptable.
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| October 10, 2013, 8:17 pm
Sooo the main picture counts as one of the photos?
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| October 19, 2013, 3:13 pm
Quoting Raviel .
Sooo the main picture counts as one of the photos?

I think so, but why not add one extra picture, just to be safe?
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| October 19, 2013, 3:17 pm
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Quoting Caleb of Enalica
That is acceptable.

ummm.....What happened to judgeing???
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| October 20, 2013, 5:58 pm
Does a minifigure hanging over the edge count as overhang?
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| October 20, 2013, 8:45 pm
Quoting Graham Gidman
Does a minifigure hanging over the edge count as overhang?

Caleb told me you can overhang minifigures as much as you need to.
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| October 20, 2013, 8:48 pm
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Quoting Graham Gidman
Does a minifigure hanging over the edge count as overhang?

It's fine, it can hang over.
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| October 20, 2013, 9:18 pm
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Quoting Matt W.
ummm.....What happened to judgeing???

We have 4 more days until we start.
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| October 20, 2013, 9:18 pm
Quoting Caleb of Enalica
We have 4 more days until we start.

The wait is killing me :'( I need to build for round twoXD
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| October 21, 2013, 1:58 pm
Quoting ~ Brick
The wait is killing me :'( I need to build for round twoXD

I am tired of waiting for the 2013 birckbattle games round one scores.
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| October 21, 2013, 2:00 pm
Quoting Caleb of Enalica
We have 4 more days until we start.

I think I'll just count the seconds while I wait for boredom to take me away. 1...2...3...4...5...
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| October 21, 2013, 8:52 pm
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Alright guys, since this has been a long wait for this and the BBG (though the BBG wait has been longer), I try to speed things up. I can't change the deadline, but we can post the scores early if you want. Here is the deal, you have two choices

1.Post scores BEFORE the BBG results

2.Post scores AFTER the BBG results

That was you get a head start on one or the other.
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| October 21, 2013, 9:38 pm
Quoting Caleb of Enalica
Alright guys, since this has been a long wait for this and the BBG (though the BBG wait has been longer), I try to speed things up. I can't change the deadline, but we can post the scores early if you want. Here is the deal, you have two choices

1.Post scores BEFORE the BBG results

2.Post scores AFTER the BBG results

That was you get a head start on one or the other.

1, please. Kinda tired of waiting myself.....
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| October 21, 2013, 9:41 pm
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Quoting Achintya Prasad
1, please. Kinda tired of waiting myself.....

I'm making the judging group now. We'll get started, that way we can get the results out soon after we finish R1
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| October 21, 2013, 9:48 pm
Quoting Caleb of Enalica

Can you answer my question please?
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| October 22, 2013, 3:29 pm
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Quoting Raviel .
Sooo the main picture counts as one of the photos?

Yes
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| October 22, 2013, 9:59 pm
When are the results of Round 1 going to be up?
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| October 24, 2013, 7:36 pm
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Quoting Graham Gidman
When are the results of Round 1 going to be up?

A few hours!
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| October 24, 2013, 8:19 pm
For the Heroic delivery man category, can my build feature a woman instead of a man?
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| October 26, 2013, 7:16 am
So, I just wanted to ask WHY I didn't make it. I mean, did I break the rules or was my entry jut not good enough?
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| October 26, 2013, 8:46 am
Quoting Abby Francis
So, I just wanted to ask WHY I didn't make it. I mean, did I break the rules or was my entry jut not good enough?


I didn't see any issues rule-wise with your entry. Just remember that, although someone has to lose in every contest, you'll get better and better the more you build; you've already improved in building skills since your first creation, so keep trying!
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| October 26, 2013, 12:22 pm
About the "heroic delivery man" category, does it involve only saving someone's life, like in Justin M's entry, or maybe also an action scene, where the hero risks his life to deliver the letter or package or whatever??
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| October 26, 2013, 1:35 pm
Quoting Bad Guy XD
About the "heroic delivery man" category, does it involve only saving someone's life, like in Justin M's entry, or maybe also an action scene, where the hero risks his life to deliver the letter or package or whatever??
That sounds heroic to me! It should be fine.

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| October 26, 2013, 3:38 pm
For the peril category, instead of showing "someone" in danger, could I make multiple people in danger?
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| October 27, 2013, 4:14 am
Quoting Mister Lego ~
For the peril category, instead of showing "someone" in danger, could I make multiple people in danger?
The categories aren't so rigid, as long as you have "grave danger" or "a near death situation", I think it will fit fine.
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| October 27, 2013, 6:20 am
Quoting Caleb of Enalica
The build MUST be on a 4x4 plate, there cannot be ANY over hang except for things like arms, plants, guns, that sort of thing. However, NO VARIATION OF BRICKS CAN OVERHANG. (normal bricks, sloped bricks, bricks with holes, etc.)

How closely are you enforcing this rule? It seems like there were several entries that violated the "No Variation of Bricks Can Overhang" part that made it to the second round - for example, the first-place entry from Round 1 had the better part of a 1x3 angle brick hanging over. I'd like to know whether I can get away with something similar.
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| October 27, 2013, 1:56 pm
Quoting Gilbert Despathens
How closely are you enforcing this rule? It seems like there were several entries that violated the "No Variation of Bricks Can Overhang" part that made it to the second round - for example, the first-place entry from Round 1 had the better part of a 1x3 angle brick hanging over. I'd like to know whether I can get away with something similar.

And the same person's second round entry had most of the MOC hanging over...
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| October 27, 2013, 3:37 pm
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Quoting Bad Guy XD
About the "heroic delivery man" category, does it involve only saving someone's life, like in Justin M's entry, or maybe also an action scene, where the hero risks his life to deliver the letter or package or whatever??

It just has to be heroic!
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| October 28, 2013, 12:37 am
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Quoting Mister Lego ~
For the peril category, instead of showing "someone" in danger, could I make multiple people in danger?

That would be fine! Try and focus on one of them though.
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| October 28, 2013, 12:37 am
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Quoting Finn tegotash
For the Heroic delivery man category, can my build feature a woman instead of a man?

Hmmm. I think that would be fine!
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| October 28, 2013, 12:38 am
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Quoting Gilbert Despathens
How closely are you enforcing this rule? It seems like there were several entries that violated the "No Variation of Bricks Can Overhang" part that made it to the second round - for example, the first-place entry from Round 1 had the better part of a 1x3 angle brick hanging over. I'd like to know whether I can get away with something similar.

Hmm, I actually didn't notice this. I guess if you can do it smoothly enough, and we don't notice, then that would be fine. But I would like to point out that that brick is almost the only one.
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| October 28, 2013, 12:41 am
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Quoting Abby Francis
So, I just wanted to ask WHY I didn't make it. I mean, did I break the rules or was my entry jut not good enough?

I don't have all of the entries memorized, but only two creations were penalized for cheating, so I would guess that it was probably not quite good enough :( Remember, this was a close competition, 3 people lost by a margin of .25 points!
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| October 28, 2013, 12:42 am
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Quoting Halhi 141
And the same person's second round entry had most of the MOC hanging over...

Notice that it's all plants, no bricks are overhanging.
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| October 28, 2013, 12:43 am
Quoting Caleb of Enalica
Notice that it's all plants, no bricks are overhanging.
What if you have a giant arm or wings made out of bricks, can those overhang? How much is too much?

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| October 28, 2013, 6:28 am
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Quoting The Object of Legend

I think that's stretching it. Just try and make the wings out of plates or something.
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| October 28, 2013, 6:56 am
Quoting Caleb of Enalica
I think that's stretching it. Just try and make the wings out of plates or something.
Well, what exactly is a brick in your opinion? Lego calls everything brick. If I upload a picture could you look at it and tell me if it's okay?

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| October 28, 2013, 7:36 am
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Quoting The Object of Legend
If I upload a picture could you look at it and tell me if it's okay?

Yeah, that would be fine!
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| October 28, 2013, 8:46 am
Quoting Caleb of Enalica
I don't have all of the entries memorized, but only two creations were penalized for cheating, so I would guess that it was probably not quite good enough :( Remember, this was a close competition, 3 people lost by a margin of .25 points!

Well, thats disappointing.....
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| October 28, 2013, 10:28 am
If I put a twist on or use a different definition of 'delivery-man' instead of the traditional milk, paper, pizza or ups guy would it still stick to the category? Like if they were delivering something unusual?
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| October 29, 2013, 1:32 am
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Quoting Marlf !
If I put a twist on or use a different definition of 'delivery-man' instead of the traditional milk, paper, pizza or ups guy would it still stick to the category? Like if they were delivering something unusual?

As the category states,

"Note, they can be delivering anything, it does not need to be something like pizza, and it need not be in a modern setting (though it can be)."

so yes.
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| October 29, 2013, 4:29 am
Quoting Caleb of Enalica
Yeah, that would be fine!
Thank you!

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| October 29, 2013, 6:15 am
Just for extra-clarification on my part, whatever the delivery man is delivering doesn't necessarily need to be stuff/things?
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| October 30, 2013, 5:32 pm
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Quoting Marlf !
Just for extra-clarification on my part, whatever the delivery man is delivering doesn't necessarily need to be stuff/things?

Is it tangible?
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| October 30, 2013, 10:31 pm
Are you going to continue to allow the cheap "sideways MOC" technique that people have been using to build a MOC that's much larger than 4x4?
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| October 31, 2013, 12:08 am
Quoting Halhi 141
Are you going to continue to allow the cheap "sideways MOC" technique that people have been using to build a MOC that's much larger than 4x4?

Yeah, I considered using that technique but it didn't seem fair.
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| October 31, 2013, 12:34 am
Quoting Halhi 141
Are you going to continue to allow the cheap "sideways MOC" technique that people have been using to build a MOC that's much larger than 4x4?

I was thinking that. this is a 4x4 contest, not a 4x32 contest.
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| October 31, 2013, 12:48 am
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Quoting Halhi 141
Are you going to continue to allow the cheap "sideways MOC" technique that people have been using to build a MOC that's much larger than 4x4?

Yes. These creations do not break the rules. I would like to point out that they have the same limits in dimensions that the other entries have.
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| October 31, 2013, 12:52 am
Quoting Caleb of Enalica
Is it tangible?

No...But for example a preacher 'delivers' the sermon or message. So he would be the delivery-man of whatever domination he is.
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| October 31, 2013, 1:12 am
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Quoting Marlf !
No...But for example a preacher 'delivers' the sermon or message. So he would be the delivery-man of whatever domination he is.

That's stretching it, but depending on what it is, I may let it slide.
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| October 31, 2013, 1:31 am
Quoting Caleb of Enalica
That's stretching it, but depending on what it is, I may let it slide.

It's ok if you say no, but if what I do doesn't follow the category enough will you let me a different one if I get it in before the deadline?
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| October 31, 2013, 1:53 am
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Quoting Marlf !
It's ok if you say no, but if what I do doesn't follow the category enough will you let me a different one if I get it in before the deadline?

Here's what we can do: you can post the entry, but DON'T add it to the group. Send me a link and I'll review it. Then I'll tell you if you need to build another or not.
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| October 31, 2013, 3:09 am
Quoting Caleb of Enalica
Yes. These creations do not break the rules. I would like to point out that they have the same limits in dimensions that the other entries have.

So in other words this is a 4x34x4 contest? The longer length just kind of defeated part of the point of the contest, even if the height is more restricted...
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| October 31, 2013, 9:48 am
Just wanted to double check something...

It was stated before that a minifig can overhang as much as it needs as long as it's attached. So, if say a minifig was scaling the side of a 4x4 building and his leg was attached via a headlight brick, would that be allowed? He is still attached to the main build, but is overhanging by all but half a stud.

I am asking for, uhhhhh, a friend.
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| October 31, 2013, 12:17 pm
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Quoting Halhi 141
So in other words this is a 4x34x4 contest? The longer length just kind of defeated part of the point of the contest, even if the height is more restricted...

Your last entry was pretty tall, why are you so adamant about this? Also, round 3 will be different, I can't say much, but the rules will be way different.
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| October 31, 2013, 7:52 pm
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Quoting Sean B
Just wanted to double check something...

It was stated before that a minifig can overhang as much as it needs as long as it's attached. So, if say a minifig was scaling the side of a 4x4 building and his leg was attached via a headlight brick, would that be allowed? He is still attached to the main build, but is overhanging by all but half a stud.

I am asking for, uhhhhh, a friend.

That is fine
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| October 31, 2013, 7:53 pm
Quoting Caleb of Enalica
Your last entry was pretty tall, why are you so adamant about this? Also, round 3 will be different, I can't say much, but the rules will be way different.

His entry was tall, but didn't have overhang, people are flipping their stuff sideways. I don't really like it either, but I see that it doesn't break any rules :) But that is his point :)
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| November 1, 2013, 9:20 am
Quoting James Bond
His entry was tall, but didn't have overhang, people are flipping their stuff sideways. I don't really like it either, but I see that it doesn't break any rules :) But that is his point :)

It actually had more overhang than most of the other entries, but I know what you mean. I just think that it's against the spirit of the contest, if not technically against the rules.
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| November 1, 2013, 9:57 am
Quoting Halhi 141
It actually had more overhang than most of the other entries, but I know what you mean. I just think that it's against the spirit of the contest, if not technically against the rules.

Ah I didn't notice ;) I agree with you though :)
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| November 1, 2013, 10:23 am
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Quoting Halhi 141
It actually had more overhang than most of the other entries, but I know what you mean. I just think that it's against the spirit of the contest, if not technically against the rules.

We keep these things in mind while judging ;)
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| November 1, 2013, 1:27 pm
Are the judges going to comment the scores on the entries this round?
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| November 3, 2013, 1:49 am
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Quoting Marlf !
Are the judges going to comment the scores on the entries this round?

I'm not sure yet, but I will at least comment and tell everyone that the scores are up.
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| November 3, 2013, 10:22 pm
I'm trying to make a tree, but it's nearly impossible to make one without having some overhang. Is that allowed if it's a tree, like in Justin M.'s entry?
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| November 4, 2013, 3:30 pm
Quoting Graham Gidman
I'm trying to make a tree, but it's nearly impossible to make one without having some overhang. Is that allowed if it's a tree, like in Justin M.'s entry?
If Justin M. can do it, why not you?
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| November 4, 2013, 5:06 pm
Quoting Graham Gidman
I'm trying to make a tree, but it's nearly impossible to make one without having some overhang. Is that allowed if it's a tree, like in Justin M.'s entry?

I think the key here is that you can't have any part of a brick overhanging. Plates, leaves, minifig parts, etc. can overhang, but not bricks (to include slopes and wedges that are as thick as a brick). At least that's how I interpreted the rules, based on the answers given here.
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| November 4, 2013, 5:18 pm
Caleb, I need you to answer my previous question.
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| November 4, 2013, 11:07 pm
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Quoting Graham Gidman
I'm trying to make a tree, but it's nearly impossible to make one without having some overhang. Is that allowed if it's a tree, like in Justin M.'s entry?

Sorry I didn't see this earlier! Yes, just so long as no bricks hang over, you're fine!
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| November 4, 2013, 11:59 pm
Quoting Caleb of Enalica
Sorry I didn't see this earlier! Yes, just so long as no bricks hang over, you're fine!
Thanks!
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| November 5, 2013, 12:00 am
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