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Discuss any trading of weapons, and technology "including LDD designs" here.

No general convo.
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| December 26, 2013, 10:41 pm
Quoting Nightmaresquid º
Discuss any trading of weapons, and technology "including LDD designs" here.

No general convo.

New Judah has announced that it is in need of vehicles for its military. All manner of military vehicles are needed in order to protect the nation while homegrown designs are in development (waiting for the right time period to come along)
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| December 27, 2013, 1:19 pm
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Quoting Daniel Bozarth
New Judah has announced that it is in need of vehicles for its military. All manner of military vehicles are needed in order to protect the nation while homegrown designs are in development (waiting for the right time period to come along)

I should have plenty of export designs. :)
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| December 27, 2013, 1:35 pm
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Quoting Daniel Bozarth
New Judah has announced that it is in need of vehicles for its military. All manner of military vehicles are needed in order to protect the nation while homegrown designs are in development (waiting for the right time period to come along)

As I've said I will be producing weapons for all nations to manufacture, like a bunch of companies around the world. I finished a cold war tank last night, the Type-55 Ocelot "a mix between a T 62, and various other tanks." and on LDD I have the Raptor tank "T 54 style"

Also my cold war fighter,
Epsilon "fortune 2"
http://img809.imageshack.us/img809/2568/krce.png
http://img51.imageshack.us/img51/3394/yq63.png

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| December 27, 2013, 1:39 pm
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Quoting Nightmaresquid º
As I've said I will be producing weapons for all nations to manufacture, like a bunch of companies around the world. I finished a cold war tank last night, the Type-55 Ocelot "a mix between a T 62, and various other tanks." and on LDD I have the Raptor tank "T 54 style"

Also my cold war fighter,
http://imageshack.us/edit.php?url[]=600/3873/1077228148/weht.png/y

Your link seems to be broken, it's wanting a log in.
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| December 27, 2013, 1:45 pm
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Quoting Matthew McCall
Your link seems to be broken, it's wanting a log in.


http://img809.imageshack.us/img809/2568/krce.png
http://img51.imageshack.us/img51/3394/yq63.png
The squished aircraft, do these links work?
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| December 29, 2013, 9:31 pm
Quoting Nightmaresquid º
Epsilon "fortune 2"
http://img809.imageshack.us/img809/2568/krce.png
http://img51.imageshack.us/img51/3394/yq63.png
This is a multirole aircraft for new members to use, based off of the phantom 2.
The squished aircraft, do these links work?
yes, the links work

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| December 29, 2013, 9:36 pm
The Czech-Hungarian empire can mange with ground forces but it lacks a powerful Air Force.
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| December 29, 2013, 9:58 pm
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The West Coast Federation has announced its list of vehicles available to non-allied countries: http://www.mocpages.com/moc.php/377674

More information about them is expected to be added soon.
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| December 30, 2013, 4:35 pm
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Quoting Tommy S.
The Czech-Hungarian empire can mange with ground forces but it lacks a powerful Air Force.

I will soon finish a MiG-21. If you will like it, I would gladly sell it to you.
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| December 30, 2013, 4:53 pm
The škoda 20mm, pak-40, and Škoda 100mm artillery emplacements are up for trade.
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| December 30, 2013, 10:24 pm
Quoting Matthew Sylvan
I will soon finish a MiG-21. If you will like it, I would gladly sell it to you.

Ok I will be willing to trade for that
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| December 30, 2013, 10:25 pm
I ain't got much now but how about me buying schematics for the M251 Halftrack?

Also I'm set to make a modular armored vehicle off of my Panther.
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| December 30, 2013, 10:34 pm
Quoting TheWolfBrigade 01
I ain't got much now but how about me buying schematics for the M251 Halftrack?

Also I'm set to make a modular armored vehicle off of my Panther.

You should mount something similar to a wirbelwind Pz IV on the panther V
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| December 30, 2013, 11:03 pm
Alright so I am willing to trade 12 of my Panthers and 20 of my P-300s for a schematic.
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| January 7, 2014, 11:45 am
Quoting Matthew McCall
The West Coast Federation has announced its list of vehicles available to non-allied countries: http://www.mocpages.com/moc.php/377674

More information about them is expected to be added soon.

i am interested in the Dodge WC54, AMX-14m the Super Meteor F.10, the cargo airplane/gunship thing, DUWK, and the submarine. You seem to be the only one exporting things i could use. Anyways, i am interested in aquiring a production liscense for the WC54, AMX-14M, SUper Metor, and the DUWK. The others i am simply interested in purchasing.
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| January 7, 2014, 1:22 pm
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Quoting Daniel Bozarth
i am interested in the Dodge WC54, AMX-14m the Super Meteor F.10, the cargo airplane/gunship thing, DUWK, and the submarine. You seem to be the only one exporting things i could use. Anyways, i am interested in aquiring a production liscense for the WC54, AMX-14M, SUper Metor, and the DUWK. The others i am simply interested in purchasing.

What are you willing to offer in return? No offense, but I'm not really interested in your machines.
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| January 7, 2014, 1:57 pm
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Quoting Daniel Bozarth
i am interested in the Dodge WC54, AMX-14m the Super Meteor F.10, the cargo airplane/gunship thing, DUWK, and the submarine. You seem to be the only one exporting things i could use. Anyways, i am interested in aquiring a production liscense for the WC54, AMX-14M, SUper Metor, and the DUWK. The others i am simply interested in purchasing.

The HK-52 is also up for export. http://flic.kr/p/iSVuEZ
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| January 7, 2014, 2:16 pm
Quoting Matthew Sylvan
The HK-52 is also up for export. http://flic.kr/p/iSVuEZ
I am looking for a light tank, a bomber, a vehicle that can ford rivers, a cargo aircraft, naval units, and an artillery piece (but currently, only one of the artillery pieces ive seen would work well in the desert, and it isn't being exported.)

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| January 7, 2014, 5:30 pm
Quoting Matthew McCall
What are you willing to offer in return? No offense, but I'm not really interested in your machines.
Yes, you already have variants of what i am producing. Well, If resources are added, i could give you oil. I could give you the right to establish naval bases in my territory (and maybe an airbase). Could give you the right to one vehicle that i make by myself (or get permition(sic) from those i made it with, this could be a modified version of the aquamarine sub). I could create an acronym for your future allince (i seem to be good at that). Or perhaps if an economy system is developed i could give you money.

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| January 7, 2014, 6:36 pm
comment in moderation, could someone look at it
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| January 7, 2014, 6:37 pm
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Quoting Daniel Bozarth
comment in moderation, could someone look at it

Hmmm... rights to naval/airbases is intriguing. Are we talking about permanent basing or renting space for a period of a few months. Currently I have no need for basing in your county but give a few months and I'm sure this is something I could use.
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| January 7, 2014, 7:05 pm
Quoting Matthew McCall
Hmmm... rights to naval/airbases is intriguing. Are we talking about permanent basing or renting space for a period of a few months. Currently I have no need for basing in your county but give a few months and I'm sure this is something I could use.
First off, i knew you would be intrigued by that, secondly i would prefer a rental, because than the lease would expire, just as old tech would become practically useless. However, the amount of time in the lease for each base is up for discussion, you could activate the lease when you please (A.K.A. negotiate it now, use it later) and keep in mind it is about exactly halfway around the world, and could provide damaged ships with asylum. Passage through the Suez Canal could also be negotiated. (as it is restricted (No combat ships allowed through without stated permission, merchant ships must pay a tax on cargo carried) currently for non-allied parties)
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| January 7, 2014, 7:17 pm
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Quoting Daniel Bozarth
Quoting Matthew McCall
Hmmm... rights to naval/airbases is intriguing. Are we talking about permanent basing or renting space for a period of a few months. Currently I have no need for basing in your county but give a few months and I'm sure this is something I could use.
First off, i knew you would be intrigued by that, secondly i would prefer a rental, because than the lease would expire, just as old tech would become practically useless. However, the amount of time in the lease for each base is up for discussion, you could activate the lease when you please (A.K.A. negotiate it now, use it later) and keep in mind it is about exactly halfway around the world, and could provide damaged ships with asylum. Passage through the Suez Canal could also be negotiated. (as it is restricted (No combat ships allowed through without stated permission, merchant ships must pay a tax on cargo carried) currently for non-allied parties)

It being on the other side of the world is what makes it so interesting. However, I need to build up a decent navy before I can consider sending anything over. Is a 3 month rental a decent proposal? (A decade in this game)
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| January 7, 2014, 7:23 pm
Quoting Matthew McCall
It being on the other side of the world is what makes it so interesting. However, I need to build up a decent navy before I can consider sending anything over. Is a 3 month rental a decent proposal? (A decade in this game)
yes, tis. However, the type of the base, amount and location are still up for negotiation, along with what you would grant me in exchange for them are still up for negation, perhaps we should discuss these details in a separate topic as not to clutter up this one.

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| January 7, 2014, 7:46 pm
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Quoting Daniel Bozarth
Quoting Matthew McCall
It being on the other side of the world is what makes it so interesting. However, I need to build up a decent navy before I can consider sending anything over. Is a 3 month rental a decent proposal? (A decade in this game)
yes, tis. However, the type of the base, amount and location are still up for negotiation, along with what you would grant me in exchange for them are still up for negation, perhaps we should discuss these details in a separate topic as not to clutter up this one.

This is the trade forum, there is no better place to discuss this. XD

Anyway, what if I have you unlimited production rights to any 3 designs of your choice if I get 3 months of naval basing rights, and I give you production rights of any 5 designs if you throw in aircraft basing.

In return, basing would be for a aircraft carrier battle group, a battleship, and up to several hundred land based aircraft. Expansions could be negotiated in the future. Location would be in the Mediterranean.
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| January 7, 2014, 8:35 pm
Quoting Matthew McCall
This is the trade forum, there is no better place to discuss this. XD

Anyway, what if I have you unlimited production rights to any 3 designs of your choice if I get 3 months of naval basing rights, and I give you production rights of any 5 designs if you throw in aircraft basing.

In return, basing would be for a aircraft carrier battle group, a battleship, and up to several hundred land based aircraft. Expansions could be negotiated in the future. Location would be in the Mediterranean.
Naval basing rights in the Mediterranean would be fine by me, access to harbors will be provided. Provisions may also be provided for a small fee. Passage of watercraft through the Suez Canal is still up for negotiation. I will decide what vehicles i would like to have production right to when you answer a question. Any, of your vehicles whatsoever, or any on the export list.
I am a bit uneasy about aircraft basing as of now, as intentions and lines have yet to be drawn.
Final note, termination of naval bases by force will most likely occur if hostilities are commenced against Me or members of my alliance.

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| January 7, 2014, 10:33 pm
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Quoting Daniel Bozarth
Quoting Matthew McCall
This is the trade forum, there is no better place to discuss this. XD

Anyway, what if I have you unlimited production rights to any 3 designs of your choice if I get 3 months of naval basing rights, and I give you production rights of any 5 designs if you throw in aircraft basing.

In return, basing would be for a aircraft carrier battle group, a battleship, and up to several hundred land based aircraft. Expansions could be negotiated in the future. Location would be in the Mediterranean.
Naval basing rights in the Mediterranean would be fine by me, access to harbors will be provided. Provisions may also be provided for a small fee. Passage of watercraft through the Suez Canal is still up for negotiation. I will decide what vehicles i would like to have production right to when you answer a question. Any, of your vehicles whatsoever, or any on the export list.
I am a bit uneasy about aircraft basing as of now, as intentions and lines have yet to be drawn.
Final note, termination of naval bases by force will most likely occur if hostilities are commenced against Me or members of my alliance.

Any on the export list, things not listed on the export list require extra negotiating to produce. I can understand you being uneasy about aircraft, but think of it this way: if I was wanting to attack you why would I put my airfields in your country? I have no goals of conquest in Europe, but would like some sort of basing there to expand my influence and projective capabilities.
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| January 7, 2014, 10:42 pm
Quoting Matthew McCall
Any on the export list, things not listed on the export list require extra negotiating to produce. I can understand you being uneasy about aircraft, but think of it this way: if I was wanting to attack you why would I put my airfields in your country? I have no goals of conquest in Europe, but would like some sort of basing there to expand my influence and projective capabilities.
I can think of many ways an airbase could be used to invade someone (And an irl example), anyways, how about this, i will give you access to my harbors, access to the suez canal, the right to establish restricted zones in harbors (A.K.A. a naval base) or to establish your own harbor, and will provide provisions (food, gas, not ammo) to you, for 4 months, and logistical (not combat) access to airports. in return, you will give me production rights to the B-52, the KC-135, and the DUWK

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| January 8, 2014, 6:22 pm
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Quoting Daniel Bozarth
Quoting Matthew McCall
Any on the export list, things not listed on the export list require extra negotiating to produce. I can understand you being uneasy about aircraft, but think of it this way: if I was wanting to attack you why would I put my airfields in your country? I have no goals of conquest in Europe, but would like some sort of basing there to expand my influence and projective capabilities.
I can think of many ways an airbase could be used to invade someone (And an irl example), anyways, how about this, i will give you access to my harbors, access to the suez canal, the right to establish restricted zones in harbors (A.K.A. a naval base) or to establish your own harbor, and will provide provisions (food, gas, not ammo) to you, for 4 months, and logistical (not combat) access to airports. in return, you will give me production rights to the B-52, the KC-135, and the DUWK

Deal. My carrier will already give me aircraft in the region and I might be able to arrange a deal with the UK or the Soviets for aircraft basing.
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| January 8, 2014, 6:34 pm
Quoting Matthew McCall
Deal. My carrier will already give me aircraft in the region and I might be able to arrange a deal with the UK or the Soviets for aircraft basing.

I should have asked for more
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| January 8, 2014, 7:43 pm
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Quoting Daniel Bozarth
I should have asked for more

Well, the two aircraft you requested will be useful for the entire game, so in a way your end of the deal lasts longer.
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| January 8, 2014, 8:39 pm
Quoting Matthew McCall
Well, the two aircraft you requested will be useful for the entire game, so in a way your end of the deal lasts longer.
that's why i asked for them, anyways, i am just saying that was surprisingly little negotiation

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| January 8, 2014, 8:42 pm
Quoting Matthew McCall
I should have plenty of export designs. :)

I'm interested in the F-10, B-17 and DD-435, If you want you could pick 3 of my designs for trade if you want.
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| January 9, 2014, 10:31 pm
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Quoting Tommy S.
I'm interested in the F-10, B-17 and DD-435, If you want you could pick 3 of my designs for trade if you want.

You make good stuff but it overlaps with my own designs, so I don't need more tanks or artillery designs. Perhaps you have something else to offer?
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| January 9, 2014, 10:51 pm
Am exporting turrets, artillery and aircraft. Designs will be up soon for them. Contact me if U R interested.
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| January 17, 2014, 7:26 pm
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Quoting Gabe Murray
Am exporting turrets, artillery and aircraft. Designs will be up soon for them. Contact me if U R interested.

Although I am not participating in the game as an Admin, I wanted to say welcome to the group. Your building quality is good, and am looking forward to seeing military weapons coming from New Caledonia.
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| January 17, 2014, 7:38 pm
Quoting Nightmaresquid º
Although I am not participating in the game as an Admin, I wanted to say welcome to the group. Your building quality is good, and am looking forward to seeing military weapons coming from New Caledonia.


Thanks you, today our first line of military grade weapons will be out. Very interested in this group.
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| January 18, 2014, 6:06 am
I'm also willing to purchase any half-tracks, self propelled Missle launchers and heavy alltilery.
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| January 18, 2014, 6:10 am
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Quoting Gabe Murray
I'm also willing to purchase any half-tracks, self propelled Missle launchers and heavy alltilery.
Towed? I will have a 203mm gun up soon.

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| January 18, 2014, 6:41 am
Quoting Matthew Sylvan
Quoting Gabe Murray
I'm also willing to purchase any half-tracks, self propelled Missle launchers and heavy alltilery.
Towed? I will have a 203mm gun up soon.


Cool, if your willing to sell it il buy it. I have a truck prototype for towing the 203mm
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| January 18, 2014, 11:10 am
Anyone have artillery and ground support for trade?!
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| January 18, 2014, 5:52 pm
Quoting Gabe Murray
Anyone have artillery and ground support for trade?!


The Kingdom of South Africa has WWI vintage artillery on wholesale:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/thenotsogreat/9642380456/
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| January 18, 2014, 6:23 pm
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Quoting Gabe Murray
Anyone have artillery and ground support for trade?!

I think I can one-up awesomeosaurous ;) http://www.mocpages.com/moc.php/377674
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| January 18, 2014, 6:45 pm
Quoting Matthew McCall
I think I can one-up awesomeosaurous ;) http://www.mocpages.com/moc.php/377674

Hei wang guo would like to purchase some of your AMX-TC APC's for our nation.
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| January 19, 2014, 4:58 am
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Quoting Broken Bricks
Hei wang guo would like to purchase some of your AMX-TC APC's for our nation.

That could certainly be arranged for the right price. What are you offering as payment? Remember, if its one of your creations it has to be something I don't already have an equivalent of.
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| January 19, 2014, 11:51 am
Quoting Awesome-o-saurus The Not-So-Great

The Kingdom of South Africa has WWI vintage artillery on wholesale:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/thenotsogreat/9642380456/


I'll take em. They are superb. How much?
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| January 19, 2014, 12:09 pm
Quoting Gabe Murray

I'll take em. They are superb. How much?


I'll sell at 10,000 Afrikashekels (or whatever the currency is) a piece for the big one, 4,000 a piece for the little one. I have 1000 of the big ones, 5000 of the little ones.
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| January 19, 2014, 1:49 pm
Quoting Awesome-o-saurus The Not-So-Great

I'll sell at 10,000 Afrikashekels (or whatever the currency is) a piece for the big one, 4,000 a piece for the little one. I have 1000 of the big ones, 5000 of the little ones.
Im not sure if we have a currency system

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| January 19, 2014, 1:57 pm
Quoting Daniel Bozarth
Im not sure if we have a currency system


I don't think we do, but we can make believe. You get your guns, I get a bit of a boost in production from that sweet fiat currency. I'm sure the admins would find that fair, right?
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| January 19, 2014, 2:20 pm
Quoting Awesome-o-saurus The Not-So-Great

I'll sell at 10,000 Afrikashekels (or whatever the currency is) a piece for the big one, 4,000 a piece for the little one. I have 1000 of the big ones, 5000 of the little ones.


Well consider it done. I'll find out how to pay you and until then you keep the artillery. Once you have the money, I'll take the guns.
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| January 19, 2014, 2:56 pm
Quoting Awesome-o-saurus The Not-So-Great

I'll sell at 10,000 Afrikashekels (or whatever the currency is) a piece for the big one, 4,000 a piece for the little one. I have 1000 of the big ones, 5000 of the little ones.

>Afrikashekels
Oy vey.
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| January 19, 2014, 3:06 pm
Quoting Matthew McCall
That could certainly be arranged for the right price. What are you offering as payment? Remember, if its one of your creations it has to be something I don't already have an equivalent of.

Currently I have a 120mm spg using the T-54 chassis, otherwise I have some heavy artillery etc. in development.
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| January 19, 2014, 3:31 pm
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Quoting Awesome-o-saurus The Not-So-Great

I don't think we do, but we can make believe. You get your guns, I get a bit of a boost in production from that sweet fiat currency. I'm sure the admins would find that fair, right?

Sorry, but no. There currently isn't an economy system the way nightmare set up the game. This may be changed in the future but as of now trading can be done with either exchanging designs, political deals, or access to land/basing/territory. The problem with having economies is that it makes the game more complicated and if people are cheating on their stats it's much harder to detect. Feel free to ask Nightmare about implementing a system, I'm the unofficial statistics and creations admin while he's in charge of general game rules.
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| January 19, 2014, 4:12 pm
Quoting Matthew McCall
Sorry, but no. There currently isn't an economy system the way nightmare set up the game. This may be changed in the future but as of now trading can be done with either exchanging designs, political deals, or access to land/basing/territory. The problem with having economies is that it makes the game more complicated and if people are cheating on their stats it's much harder to detect. Feel free to ask Nightmare about implementing a system, I'm the unofficial statistics and creations admin while he's in charge of general game rules.


In the 2030s groups, we had a vague economic system based on real world industrial capacity. Your capacity went up after a few weeks-months based on how much you "invested" in it, at the cost of slowing down what production you were doing. But once it went up, you could build more things per week. You could also go total war mode, and build things at double the rate at the cost of economic cool down when it was all over (not being able to build very much at all or fight offensive actions), to represent post-war slumps in economy. It was up to combat moderators to decide that last one's effects.

I hope he sees this then, I don't feel like reposting it in another thread.

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| January 19, 2014, 4:33 pm
Quoting Broken Bricks
Currently I have a 120mm spg using the T-54 chassis, otherwise I have some heavy artillery etc. in development.


I'll see about buying those. Looks good for now.
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| January 19, 2014, 4:36 pm
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Quoting Awesome-o-saurus The Not-So-Great

The Kingdom of South Africa has WWI vintage artillery on wholesale:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/thenotsogreat/9642380456/

Woah! I was informed that 1940 technology was hopelessly outdated and practically useless in battle! XD
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| January 19, 2014, 6:48 pm
Quoting Thomas of Tortuga
Woah! I was informed that 1940 technology was hopelessly outdated and practically useless in battle! XD


Tell that to the Mosin-Nagant. Or the StG44. Or the Browning machine gun. A good weapon is never out of date, until they stop making ammunition for it.

The same cannot be said for vehicles.
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| January 19, 2014, 6:56 pm
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Quoting Awesome-o-saurus The Not-So-Great

Tell that to the Mosin-Nagant. Or the StG44. Or the Browning machine gun. A good weapon is never out of date, until they stop making ammunition for it.

The same cannot be said for vehicles.

OK, I guess you have a point. Didn't they stop making ammunition for those cannons before the 1950s, though? ;)
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| January 19, 2014, 7:13 pm
Quoting Thomas of Tortuga
OK, I guess you have a point. Didn't they stop making ammunition for those cannons before the 1950s, though? ;)


Depends who you were. Sweden was using WWI artillery until the 50s, who is to say it is not the case elsewhere?
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| January 19, 2014, 7:20 pm
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Quoting Awesome-o-saurus The Not-So-Great

Tell that to the Mosin-Nagant. Or the StG44. Or the Browning machine gun. A good weapon is never out of date, until they stop making ammunition for it.

The same cannot be said for vehicles.

Yes, the AK-47 is close to 70 years old and still deadly. On the the other hand, most vehicles were being phased out around every decade during the 1940's and 1950's because of the massive leaps and bounds that designers were making. I've never said that 1940's designs are useless but they are obsolete.
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| January 19, 2014, 7:20 pm
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Quoting Broken Bricks
Currently I have a 120mm spg using the T-54 chassis, otherwise I have some heavy artillery etc. in development.

Well, I kind of already have a 170mm SPG http://www.mocpages.com/image_zoom.php?mocid=377435&id=/user_images/76595/1388251498m
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| January 19, 2014, 9:17 pm
West Coast Federation, the ECDF is looking at the M30 Cargo Truck, AMX-TC, and the Dodge WC54. These will be replaced at a later time for now, will you like to trade.
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| January 20, 2014, 3:43 pm
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Quoting Christian Bish
West Coast Federation, the ECDF is looking at the M30 Cargo Truck, AMX-TC, and the Dodge WC54. These will be replaced at a later time for now, will you like to trade.

I'm willing to trade, but not for your creations. Do you have any territory or other political deals you are willing to propose?
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| January 20, 2014, 7:05 pm
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Quoting Gabe Murray

I'll see about buying those. Looks good for now.

The Ottoman Empire would like to discuss terms for the purchase or construction licence of your nation's aircraft carrier.
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| January 20, 2014, 7:43 pm
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Quoting Christian Bish
West Coast Federation, the ECDF is looking at the M30 Cargo Truck, AMX-TC, and the Dodge WC54. These will be replaced at a later time for now, will you like to trade.

The Ottoman Empire would like to discuss terms for the purchase or construction licence of your nation's aircraft carrier or battleship.
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| January 20, 2014, 7:46 pm
Quoting Thomas of Tortuga
The Ottoman Empire would like to discuss terms for the purchase or construction licence of your nation's aircraft carrier.


Yes that can be arranged.
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| January 22, 2014, 3:43 pm
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Quoting Gabe Murray
Yes that can be arranged.

On what terms?
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| January 22, 2014, 4:20 pm
Quoting Thomas of Tortuga
On what terms?


Two million (insert currency that you use) per ship and/or 15 million for rights to them.

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| January 22, 2014, 5:50 pm
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Quoting Gabe Murray

Two million (insert currency that you use) per ship and/or 15 million for rights to them.

I just want to make sure that you realize that as there isn't a currency/GDP system in the game.
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| January 22, 2014, 5:59 pm
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Quoting Gabe Murray

Two million (insert currency that you use) per ship and/or 15 million for rights to them.

As long as you know that currency has no function at all in gameplay... I'll be glad to pay 20 million shekels for the use of your navy. However, to be fair I'd have to assume you want something more tangible.
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| January 22, 2014, 8:13 pm
Quoting Gabe Murray

Two million (insert currency that you use) per ship and/or 15 million for rights to them.


You have to use your units as currency.
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| January 22, 2014, 8:28 pm
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Daniel, just so you know I based my initial vehicle production off of this sentence:

"-----Ground----- (Make your starting unit count number about 2-3 weeks production)"

This meant, among other things, that each of my 4 logistics vehicle started with 210 units of each. Does this clear up how I have such high numbers?
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| January 23, 2014, 3:02 am
Quoting Thomas of Tortuga
As long as you know that currency has no function at all in gameplay... I'll be glad to pay 20 million shekels for the use of your navy. However, to be fair I'd have to assume you want something more tangible.
Ohh ok, than could I possibly trade the aircraft carrier for rights to your light tank (insert name I can't remember).

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| January 23, 2014, 7:12 am
Quoting Matthew McCall
Daniel, just so you know I based my initial vehicle production off of this sentence:

"-----Ground----- (Make your starting unit count number about 2-3 weeks production)"

This meant, among other things, that each of my 4 logistics vehicle started with 210 units of each. Does this clear up how I have such high numbers?
Yes it would

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| January 23, 2014, 7:18 am
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Quoting Gabe Murray
Ohh ok, than could I possibly trade the aircraft carrier for rights to your light tank (insert name I can't remember).

Is this rights to the carrier or use of the carrier?
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| January 23, 2014, 7:39 am
Quoting Thomas of Tortuga
Is this rights to the carrier or use of the carrier?


The rights to produce the carrier.
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| January 23, 2014, 8:06 am
Quoting Thomas of Tortuga
Is this rights to the carrier or use of the carrier?

I have another carrier on the way too. It's going to be a lot bigger than the last. Like a heavy aircraft carrier.

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| January 23, 2014, 8:07 am
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Quoting Gabe Murray
I have another carrier on the way too. It's going to be a lot bigger than the last. Like a heavy aircraft carrier.

Soo, are you putting this one up for trade instead?
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| January 23, 2014, 9:53 am
Quoting Thomas of Tortuga
Soo, are you putting this one up for trade instead?


No, you are still getting the first, assuming you agree to the trade.

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| January 23, 2014, 12:38 pm
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Quoting Gabe Murray
No, you are still getting the first, assuming you agree to the trade.

Instead of production rights, would you be alright with just giving me one carrier in exchange for 125 Beetle tanks? I only need one to tide me over, until I can build my own navy.

:P
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| January 23, 2014, 2:28 pm
Quoting Thomas of Tortuga
Instead of production rights, would you be alright with just giving me one carrier in exchange for 125 Beetle tanks? I only need one to tide me over, until I can build my own navy.:P

Vey we'll. it's a deal.
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| January 23, 2014, 3:41 pm
Iberia is looking to export model designs upon request in return for vehicles.
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| January 23, 2014, 4:05 pm
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Quoting Colin Small
Iberia is looking to export model designs upon request in return for vehicles.

Which types of vehicles does the ambassador from Iberia want? Perhaps a light armored car?
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| January 25, 2014, 3:06 pm
Quoting Thomas of Tortuga
Which types of vehicles does the ambassador from Iberia want? Perhaps a light armored car?

We are looking to export. What models are you interest in?
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| January 26, 2014, 1:53 am
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Quoting jack kenyon
In light of the rapid arming of all those around us, the Neo British empire has began work on our first vehicle, the Centaur MBT. A series of vehicles will also be based on this chasis.

Currently I have new figures, and new vehicles on the drawing board. A Daimler ferret scout car, and an infantry infrastructure would be good exclusives to England as they would fit a theme nicely.

Would you want me to make English force for you? I have nothing better to do, just need a bight day.
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| January 26, 2014, 6:11 am
Quoting Nightmaresquid º
Currently I have new figures, and new vehicles on the drawing board. A Daimler ferret scout car, and an infantry infrastructure would be good exclusives to England as they would fit a theme nicely.

Would you want me to make English force for you? I have nothing better to do, just need a bight day.

Anything to get me started while I am busy at the moment is really appreciated. Thanks! The good news is that I have a chassis underwork for all my tanks. If you look at the real centurian, chieftan and challenger tanks, they all sbare the same wheelbase, so oncw that is done, I cab get the ball rolling myself. Sylvan also made a beautiful comet tank with me in mind that I am allowed to license build.
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| January 26, 2014, 6:21 am
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Quoting jack kenyon
Anything to get me started while I am busy at the moment is really appreciated. Thanks! The good news is that I have a chassis underwork for all my tanks. If you look at the real centurian, chieftan and challenger tanks, they all sbare the same wheelbase, so oncw that is done, I cab get the ball rolling myself. Sylvan also made a beautiful comet tank with me in mind that I am allowed to license build.

The USST is willing to hand over Denmark to the Neo British Empire as they couldn't annex other countries.
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| January 26, 2014, 6:50 am
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Quoting Colin Small
We are looking to export. What models are you interest in?

ArX.10 IVF, first. I can't seem to find images to most of your planes- would you mind giving me some image links? Also, I'd like to hear what terms you'd place on any of your warships.

In return, if you can't find anything of mine you'd like, I can offer limited uncontested expansion opportunities into West Africa. That will mean more military equipment in exchange, of course.
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| January 26, 2014, 10:54 am
Quoting Colin Small
Iberia is looking to export model designs upon request in return for vehicles.
Would you be interested in a deal involving procurement of your destroyer. (right now i am also working on the large ship hull to make something along the lines of the sa'ar 3 or 4)

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| January 26, 2014, 3:56 pm
Quoting Matthew Sylvan
The USST is willing to hand over Denmark to the Neo British Empire as they couldn't annex other countries.

I plan to stay small at first until I have a decent military, but tbanks for the offer.
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| January 26, 2014, 5:18 pm
Quoting Thomas of Tortuga
ArX.10 IVF, first. I can't seem to find images to most of your planes- would you mind giving me some image links? Also, I'd like to hear what terms you'd place on any of your warships.

In return, if you can't find anything of mine you'd like, I can offer limited uncontested expansion opportunities into West Africa. That will mean more military equipment in exchange, of course.


Designs of the ArX. 10 can be shipped. In return we require you to pull out of Alergia and leave the space for Iberia.

As for images:
CF-92: http://www.mocpages.com/moc.php/318532
FB-50/FB-50N: http://www.mocpages.com/moc.php/347185
CF-109: http://www.mocpages.com/moc.php/320691


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| January 26, 2014, 8:34 pm
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Quoting Colin Small

Designs of the ArX. 10 can be shipped. In return we require you to pull out of Alergia and leave the space for Iberia.

As for images:
CF-92: http://www.mocpages.com/moc.php/318532
FB-50/FB-50N: http://www.mocpages.com/moc.php/347185
CF-109: http://www.mocpages.com/moc.php/320691

You currently own Morocco, I own Algeria. To advance into Africa while remaining connected to the rest of your territories, you must advance into the Western Sahara. During the same map update you annex the Western Sahara, I could annex Mauritania and cut you off from the rest of the continent. Giving up Algeria would completely remove my strategic advantage in the region. Admittedly, you can annex a non-contiguous territory in Africa, but without a war you'll remain isolated from the rest of your nation. Therefore, I advise you take a less hard-line view of the political situation, and make a second offer.
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| January 26, 2014, 9:02 pm
Quoting Thomas of Tortuga
You currently own Morocco, I own Algeria. To advance into Africa while remaining connected to the rest of your territories, you must advance into the Western Sahara. During the same map update you annex the Western Sahara, I could annex Mauritania and cut you off from the rest of the continent. Giving up Algeria would completely remove my strategic advantage in the region. Admittedly, you can annex a non-contiguous territory in Africa, but without a war you'll remain isolated from the rest of your nation. Therefore, I advise you take a less hard-line view of the political situation, and make a second offer.


We advise you to look at the option of splitting Algeria into two pieces, giving us access to the rest of Africa.
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| January 26, 2014, 11:09 pm
Quoting Colin Small
giving us access to the rest of Africa.


http://i.imgur.com/A45lP7p.jpg?1
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| January 27, 2014, 12:57 am
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Quoting Awesome-o-saurus The Not-So-Great

http://i.imgur.com/A45lP7p.jpg?1

If I could give a like, well, I would give a like.
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| January 27, 2014, 1:34 am
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Quoting Colin Small

We advise you to look at the option of splitting Algeria into two pieces, giving us access to the rest of Africa.

First, I don't think the admins would be pleased with that :P

Second, I've given you an option for expansion. I'll promise to remain out of Mauritania, which you can then occupy at your leisure and use as a springboard into the 10+ empty countries in the region. In return, you'll grant me unlimited production rights to the ArX.10 APC.

If you reject this offer, I can cut you off from the entire continent simply by annexing Mauritania. Oh, and beyond Mauritania lies Mali, which I can also annex even if you try to capture Mauritania by air.
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| January 27, 2014, 7:55 am
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Quoting Thomas of Tortuga
First, I don't think the admins would be pleased with that :P

I actually don't have a problem with the idea, people have done similar deals in the past and it's not agianst the rules.
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| January 27, 2014, 12:45 pm
Quoting Thomas of Tortuga
First, I don't think the admins would be pleased with that :P

Second, I've given you an option for expansion. I'll promise to remain out of Mauritania, which you can then occupy at your leisure and use as a springboard into the 10+ empty countries in the region. In return, you'll grant me unlimited production rights to the ArX.10 APC.

If you reject this offer, I can cut you off from the entire continent simply by annexing Mauritania. Oh, and beyond Mauritania lies Mali, which I can also annex even if you try to capture Mauritania by air.


Fine. It's a deal. You will however, grant unrestricted access to our ships in your waters in the meditteranean. We will send you an altered version of our design (as to not give away technical secrets. Nothing changes in the actual .lxf file, just that certain design specificities will be different so you can't figure out our design secrets. Just a formality. Feel free to change the design though, alter it as much as you'd like. Also, it looks like I've forgotten to add the .lxf to the page, so I'll need an email address to send the file to.)
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| January 27, 2014, 1:27 pm
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Quoting Colin Small

Fine. It's a deal. You will however, grant unrestricted access to our ships in your waters in the meditteranean. We will send you an altered version of our design (as to not give away technical secrets. Nothing changes in the actual .lxf file, just that certain design specificities will be different so you can't figure out our design secrets. Just a formality. Feel free to change the design though, alter it as much as you'd like. Also, it looks like I've forgotten to add the .lxf to the page, so I'll need an email address to send the file to.)

Ok, good. An encoded message with delivery instructions is being transmitted to your inbox now.
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| January 27, 2014, 9:36 pm
Quoting TheWolfBrigade 01
obligatory text
I am interested in acquiring production rights for your destroyer

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| February 6, 2014, 6:18 pm
Matthew, What would you like in return for several hundred F-86 Sabre's?

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| February 16, 2014, 1:09 pm
Quoting Daniel Bozarth
Quoting TheWolfBrigade 01
obligatory text
I am interested in acquiring production rights for your destroyer


Alright, and what do you have in return? I'll give you two weeks (two units).


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| February 16, 2014, 1:27 pm
Quoting TheWolfBrigade 01

Alright, and what do you have in return? I'll give you two weeks (two units).

well, what do you want, that is the first question

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| February 16, 2014, 1:36 pm
Quoting Daniel Bozarth
Quoting TheWolfBrigade 01

Alright, and what do you have in return? I'll give you two weeks (two units).

well, what do you want, that is the first question


Well your units are a bit over dated but I need some naval designs. (For this game of course) Then we can discuss some business. I'll tow in some additional units as well. Including an airship I plan to launch if the admins have no complaint.
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| February 16, 2014, 2:02 pm
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Quoting Broken Bricks
Matthew, What would you like in return for several hundred F-86 Sabre's?

1950's style naval assets.
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| February 16, 2014, 3:52 pm
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Quoting TheWolfBrigade 01

Well your units are a bit over dated but I need some naval designs. (For this game of course) Then we can discuss some business. I'll tow in some additional units as well. Including an airship I plan to launch if the admins have no complaint.

What do you mean when you say "airship"?
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| February 16, 2014, 4:06 pm
Quoting Matthew McCall
What do you mean when you say "airship"?


THE ONES I ALWAYS MAKE! BIG, AND HEAVILY ARMORED WITH SUPERPOWERDLAZARSANDHUGESUPERWEAPONSANDALLTHEBELLSANDWISTLES!!!!

And tops with a cherry!
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| February 16, 2014, 4:19 pm
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Quoting Matthew McCall
What do you mean when you say "airship"?

The MiG-31 is sometimes referred to as an airship due to its size.
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| February 16, 2014, 5:17 pm
Quoting Matthew McCall
1950's style naval assets.

I have some in development...In production in around a week.

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| February 16, 2014, 5:25 pm
I'm willing to trade some units for more modern designs.
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| April 12, 2014, 12:49 am
Empire of Germania is willing to trade some outdated units for logistics and airplanes.
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| May 7, 2014, 8:52 pm
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Quoting TheWolfBrigade 01
Empire of Germania is willing to trade some outdated units for logistics and airplanes.

I have 4x4 truckz.
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| May 8, 2014, 1:20 am
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Quoting Matthew Sylvan
I have 4x4 truckz.

I have more truckz than you do. :D
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| May 8, 2014, 3:34 pm
Gonna trade 50 Panther II tanks, 30 refurbished ME 1110s, and 2 refurbished Hamburg II destroyers. Plus 50 updated Kubelwagons.


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| May 8, 2014, 4:00 pm
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Quoting TheWolfBrigade 01
Gonna trade 50 Panther II tanks, 30 refurbished ME 1110s, and 2 refurbished Hamburg II destroyers. Plus 50 updated Kubelwagons.


We regret to inform Germany that these vehicles have been deemed outdated and outclassed by existing US designs. We request a new offer.
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| May 8, 2014, 6:13 pm
Quoting Matthew McCall
We regret to inform Germany that these vehicles have been deemed outdated and outclassed by existing US designs. We request a new offer.


Would you consider a design of an updated S-boat along with a stealth-like concept that utilizes an enclosed bow and stern? (Just basically a boat with a feel to that of a U-boat but fast and light)

Plus how would an armored car with an anti-tank missile sound?
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| May 8, 2014, 7:15 pm
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Quoting TheWolfBrigade 01
Plus how would an armored car with an anti-tank missile sound?

I have a missile armed muscle car in the works. So, next offer?
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| May 9, 2014, 12:52 am
Quoting Matthew Sylvan
I have a missile armed muscle car in the works. So, next offer?


Out of ideas until I can get most of my primary works done. (Tank, armored cars, new APCs, boats and newer ships, my aircraft carrier that Cliffe was supposed to work on which I may have to start my own from scratch) Got too much stuff to do :D
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| May 9, 2014, 8:18 am
Quoting Matthew Sylvan
I have a missile armed muscle car in the works. So, next offer?


A muscle car armed with missiles...007 much? lol
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| May 9, 2014, 5:38 pm
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Quoting TheWolfBrigade 01

A muscle car armed with missiles...007 much? lol

To avoid copyright he can call it the BJ 700.
" as in James Bond 007.... and totally not anything else ;P "
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| May 9, 2014, 7:03 pm
Quoting Nightmaresquid º
To avoid copyright he can call it the BJ 700.
" as in James Bond 007.... and totally not anything else ;P "


LOL
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| May 9, 2014, 7:06 pm
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Quoting TheWolfBrigade 01

Would you consider a design of an updated S-boat along with a stealth-like concept that utilizes an enclosed bow and stern? (Just basically a boat with a feel to that of a U-boat but fast and light)

Plus how would an armored car with an anti-tank missile sound?

The NAU already has an advanced nuclear submarine and two light anti-tank vehicles. If you are to trade with us we request a design unlike something we already have or an offer of something besides a vehicle.
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| May 10, 2014, 12:53 am
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Quoting Nightmaresquid º
To avoid copyright he can call it the BJ 700.
" as in James Bond 007.... and totally not anything else ;P "

That's exactly the type of thing Sylvan would do. XD
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| May 10, 2014, 12:55 am
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Quoting Matthew McCall
That's exactly the type of thing Sylvan would do. XD

I'm sorry to tell you guys but it's only a TOW armed version of this
https://flic.kr/p/mYciUn

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| May 10, 2014, 4:35 am
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Quoting Matthew McCall
That's exactly the type of thing Sylvan would do. XD

No no. Sylvan builds jets with 100mm cannons.
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| May 10, 2014, 9:14 am
Quoting Matthew Sylvan
No no. Sylvan builds jets with 100mm cannons.


I build ships with a million inch guns...XD
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| May 10, 2014, 3:37 pm
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Quoting TheWolfBrigade 01

I build ships with a million inch guns...XD

No, this is an actual jet. It works like an A-10 but it's bigger and has a better engine. I converted it from Tyro's Vigilante bomber.
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| May 11, 2014, 1:57 pm
Quoting Matthew Sylvan
No, this is an actual jet. It works like an A-10 but it's bigger and has a better engine. I converted it from Tyro's Vigilante bomber.


Got my own A-10 and plan to improve it. It's size is decent but I plan to use my own design for an attack craft. I have some Soviet styled builds I will use. Including a BRDM car and BMP styled amphibious tank.
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| May 11, 2014, 3:39 pm
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