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International Conversation Forum Pt. XVIII
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New one. Same thing. You know.

Anyhow, quite spam posting! Do not post one word comments nor any comment that is irrelevant or extremely short and has little relevance. That's why our other ones have been getting quite long here lately. Keep this to heart or there will be consequences.
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| November 13, 2009, 7:14 pm
No offence to Jeffery and the other Admins but I think there needs to be some action!
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| November 13, 2009, 7:30 pm
When is the next war update gonna be Jeff?
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| November 13, 2009, 9:17 pm
Current Baltic Union project status.

Brown Bear Tank: 100%

Multi-role fighter/bomber: 0%

Heavy artillery unit: 0%

That's everything in the works here in The Baltic Union right now. The brown Bear Tank is finished and pictures should be up tomorrow. Boy I love the weekend, no school to get in the way of this global war!
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| November 13, 2009, 9:21 pm
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Pacific Union:

Vig of Governator Awe and homies=10%

Missile system=0%

Project Frustration (named of the feeling it invokes in me): 20%

Boat: 2%

I got many things on my plate. I intended to build a ship before, but I dropped it until now.

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| November 13, 2009, 9:24 pm
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Several new contracts have been made for the designing of several new vehicles. The largest of which will be a cruiser. Further information will be released later. On a land-based note, an armour destroying vehicle has been contracted as well. Finally, the contract for a new aircraft has been reestablished with the hopes for a cheaper and more efficient strike fighter. Most likely though, none of these will see action in Poland.

In other news, another simultaneous operation will commence in the next few days. No further information will be given.

Also, the SSW will be hiring private contractors and pseudo-militias within Poland to aid with intelligence and preliminary assaults within the western portion of the city. Remember, a perfect society must have imperfections.
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| November 13, 2009, 10:02 pm
Republic of Indonesia

project 17 = 98% (on testing phase)

project 08 = 20%

project 45 = 0%

Stationary AAAP = 35%

thats all the progress on the project.


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| November 13, 2009, 10:19 pm
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Bandwagon time! The upcoming projects for Armenia are:
1. Heavy Fighter/Bomber 30%

2. Dual barreled tank 100%

3. Jet VTOL Medium Transport 100%
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| November 13, 2009, 10:20 pm
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Quoting Ryan Blackout
Republic of Indonesia

project 17 = 98% (on testing phase)

project 08 = 20%

project 45 = 0%

Stationary AAAP = 35%

thats all the progress on the project.


what exactly are projects 17, 08 and 45?
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| November 13, 2009, 10:22 pm
Quoting Cole Atelian
what exactly are projects 17, 08 and 45?


project 17 is the codename for the Adfx version 3; it has the new laser weapon, capable destroying any targets on air within the horizon.

project 08, project on aircraft carrier. its
now on building stage. it will finish on january

project 45, project on orbital laser platform

all projects based on date 17 august 1945, the declaration of independence of indonesia...
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| November 13, 2009, 10:26 pm
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Quoting Ryan Blackout

project 17 is the codename for the Adfx version 3; it has the new laser weapon, capable destroying any targets on air within the horizon.


Lasers!


And when did you join? I don't recalling seeing a post by you before... Then again, I don't remember much anyways.
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| November 13, 2009, 10:58 pm
Quoting Awesome-o-saurus The Not-So-Great
and when did you join? I don't recalling seeing a post by you before... Then again, I don't remember much anyways.


i did join about 2-3 weeks ago
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| November 13, 2009, 11:20 pm
And for my new tank which I'm going to add tomorrow. I also built a diorama to display it on.
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| November 13, 2009, 11:25 pm
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Late on night, actually, many late nights over many months if we want to go for realism, PCU engineers were bored out of their mind and could not sleep, and thus the AGMS-2 was born: http://www.flickr.com/photos/thenotsogreat/4102615754/

Another filler MOC, nothing special. This ain't nothing compared to Project Frustration.
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| November 14, 2009, 2:47 am
since awsome is gone for the whole day today, i will attack his forces around 8 tonight(probobly0

Sorry ive bin gone, i just had to take 4 test and each was 2 days long so i had to study
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| November 14, 2009, 11:18 am
Quoting Emperor Kelsey Jewell
since awsome is gone for the whole day today, i will attack his forces around 8 tonight(probobly0

Sorry ive bin gone, i just had to take 4 test and each was 2 days long so i had to study

there's no need for that. There's already a huge war going on in Europe and Egypt. Don't put too much pressure on the conflict moderator, he hasn't posted for days as it is.
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| November 14, 2009, 11:46 am
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Quoting Emperor Kelsey Jewell
since awsome is gone for the whole day today, i will attack his forces around 8 tonight(probobly0

Sorry ive bin gone, i just had to take 4 test and each was 2 days long so i had to study


We did the same to you, so no hard feelings. But try as you might, we've already tranfered several tens of thousands of troops and supplies over there, plus more waiting in Alaska, while you were gone for more than a day. We haven't attacked you either. Keep that in mind.

But now, I leave. I should be back around 4PM-5PM Pacific time. Like 7-8PM MOCpages time.
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| November 14, 2009, 12:10 pm
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I am transfering some of my Navy into northern China. Five squadrons of Su-51s will accompany the fleet, providing fighter cover for the ships. Forty Ar-59 Blowtorches, fourteen squadrons of Tu-225s, another seven squadrons of Su-51s, MiG-29s, Su-47s, and Su-27s will head straight to Shenyang. My helicopter force will base themselves in Yakutsk, Russia. (If that's Ok with Kelsey.) I will fly SAMs and AAA to Yakutsk.

@ Awesome: I do not intend to engage in a world wide war. According to CAS code of conduct, I am supposed to fight with Kelsey. I do not intend to take this to a world wide hostility.
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| November 14, 2009, 3:45 pm
Quoting Thomas N
there's no need for that. There's already a huge war going on in Europe and Egypt. Don't put too much pressure on the conflict moderator, he hasn't posted for days as it is.

I havent posted for weeks!!! he atacked me when i was gone!
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| November 14, 2009, 5:20 pm
My new tank id finally up, http://www.mocpages.com/moc.php/165670 check it out!
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| November 14, 2009, 5:43 pm
Quoting Emperor Kelsey Jewell
I havent posted for weeks!!! he atacked me when i was gone!

I'm aware of that, I'm just saying we shouldn't give our conflict moderator to much of a workload.
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| November 14, 2009, 5:44 pm
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Quoting Jack Ford
I am transfering the majority of my Navy into northern China. Five squadrons of Su-51s will accompany the fleet, providing fighter cover for the ships. Forty Ar-59 Blowtorches, fourteen squadrons of Tu-225s, another seven squadrons of Su-51s, MiG-29s, Su-47s, and Su-27s will head straight to Shenyang. My helicopter force will base themselves in Yakutsk, Russia. (If that's Ok with Kelsey.) I will fly SAMs and AAA to Yakutsk.

@ Awesome: I do not intend to engage in a world wide war. Assording to alliances, I am supposed to fight with Kelsey. I do not intend to take this to a world wide hostility.


Well, now this changes things. We were prepared to sit as he yelled threats at us (no MOCs=no power, in my book), but now it looks like we're going to have to do things. Not with any enthusiasm, but we will act accordingly (even if it means bringing in the RA, but we're capable of fighting without them, unlike your own ally).

So, let us fight again. It's not to late to engage in an unessacary war, but this time we have two new powers helping us. I presume that all limits of troops and weapons in Chukotka are now void that you're attacking us?

Also, there have been 50,000 troops +assorted machines of war in Chukotka for some time, plus fortifications over 2 months, not to mention the troops waiting in Alaska since Kesley first declared war like a month ago.
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| November 14, 2009, 8:22 pm
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Quoting Awesome-o-saurus The Not-So-Great

Well, now this changes things. We were prepared to sit as he yelled threats at us (no MOCs=no power, in my book), but now it looks like we're going to have to do things. Not with any enthusiasm, but we will act accordingly (even if it means bringing in the RA, but we're capable of fighting without them, unlike your own ally).

So, let us fight again. It's not to late to engage in an unessacary war, but this time we have two new powers helping us. I presume that all limits of troops and weapons in Chukotka are now void that you're attacking us?

Also, there have been 50,000 troops +assorted machines of war in Chukotka for some time, plus fortifications over 2 months, not to mention the troops waiting in Alaska since Kesley first declared war like a month ago.

You must also remember that you have a population limit. There is no way that Oregon and Washington could have any more than a million able men to fight. East Russia could have up to 20 million. No MOCs does not equal no power, it equals outdated power that already exists. Jewell still has 1/3rd of the Russian Armed forces at his disposal. Nonetheless, we definitely will need a conflict moderator before we go on...
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| November 14, 2009, 8:48 pm
Quoting Jack Ford
You must also remember that you have a population limit. There is no way that Oregon and Washington could have any more than a million able men to fight. East Russia could have up to 20 million. No MOCs does not equal no power, it equals outdated power that already exists. Jewell still has 1/3rd of the Russian Armed forces at his disposal. Nonetheless, we definitely will need a conflict moderator before we go on...

Dispite the fact we may have significantly less infantry then most, a vehical could easily mow down many footsoldiers. Don't underestimate out HAT-1s.
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| November 14, 2009, 8:53 pm
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Quoting Jack Ford
Nonetheless, we definitely will need a conflict moderator before we go on...

Is that so?

Moving along, the SSW will soon be public releasing its recent creations (read that a replacement USB cord is on the way). At least one of these units should turn the tide a bit on a de facto basis.

Also, anti-ship emplacements will be placed on the northeastern shores of Germany. These stations will include 30mm or 40mm anti-ship cannons, various arrays of shore-to-sea missiles and torpedoes, and assorted docking stations where MRNCs and sub-hunting helicopters will be flying and sailing regular patrols.
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| November 14, 2009, 8:56 pm
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Quoting Sammy Harris
Dispite the fact we may have significantly less infantry then most, a vehical could easily mow down many footsoldiers. Don't underestimate out HAT-1s.
I do admit that an HAT-1 woudl be devastating and nearly invinsible to a footsoldier. However, an HAT-1 is no match for a Tu-225 or Su-51. Infantry with air cover can do a lot of damage.

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| November 14, 2009, 9:13 pm
Quoting Jack Ford
Quoting Sammy Harris
Dispite the fact we may have significantly less infantry then most, a vehical could easily mow down many footsoldiers. Don't underestimate out HAT-1s.
I do admit that an HAT-1 woudl be devastating and nearly invinsible to a footsoldier. However, an HAT-1 is no match for a Tu-225 or Su-51. Infantry with air cover can do a lot of damage.

The PCU has an air force of it's own. We have many AA and AG aircraft.
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| November 14, 2009, 9:15 pm
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Quoting Sammy Harris
The PCU has an air force of it's own. We have many AA and AG aircraft.

Yes, but to the best of my knowledge, the only Stealth aircraft in the PCU airforce are the 30 F-22s they inherited from the USAF. I have well over 200 Su-51s. I would have the top guns on this front. Stealth aircraft at high altitude are nearly impossible to hit with a AAA. I am not saying that your air force stands no chance, but it does not have the power of the CAS.
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| November 14, 2009, 9:24 pm
Quoting Jack Ford
Yes, but to the best of my knowledge, the only Stealth aircraft in the PCU airforce are the 30 F-22s they inherited from the USAF. I have well over 200 Su-51s. I would have the top guns on this front. Stealth aircraft at high altitude are nearly impossible to hit with a AAA. I am not saying that your air force stands no chance, but it does not have the power of the CAS.

Looks like we have an uneven balance of power right here. Our HAT-1s dominate the ground, while your Su-51s dominate the skies.

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| November 14, 2009, 9:27 pm
The New Sand Island Base (Once called Sable Island) is pretty much up and running at approximately 88% efficiency with construction of other buildings and hangars.

The Air Command/NAVAL Base located at Ikarissat (Greenland) is ready for aircraft any NAVY vessels, although it is opperating at 76.5% efficiancy...
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| November 14, 2009, 9:32 pm
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Quoting Sammy Harris
Looks like we have an uneven balance of power right here. Our HAT-1s dominate the ground, while your Su-51s dominate the skies.

I do believe that these...
http://www.flickr.com/photos/confederate_states_of_asia_military_headquarters/2850639955/in/set-72157605047825957/

...dominate the HAT-1. I cannot beat your tank with a tank, but I can beat it with an all-aspect stealth attack helicopter. These can travel low and fast enough to stay out of danger from the ground, and with Su-51s flying top cover, they can work in devastating teamwork.
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| November 14, 2009, 9:32 pm
Quoting Major-General A.C. Weagle
The New Sand Island Base (Once called Sable Island) is pretty much up and running at approximately 88% efficiency with construction of other buildings and hangars.

The Air Command/NAVAL Base located at Ikarissat (Greenland) is ready for aircraft any NAVY vessels, although it is opperating at 76.5% efficiancy...


Also after doing some research I have found out that there are some key bases/camps that are of intrest to me and they are as followed;
- NEEM Camp - Research facility
- Pituffik (Thule Air Base) - Military Air Base
- Summit Camp - Research Station
As of now these Facilities belong to the Union of Nova Scotia since Greenland swore their allegance to us, that is all. :)

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| November 14, 2009, 9:49 pm
Quoting Dr. Spontaneous
New one. Same thing. You know.

Anyhow, quite spam posting! Do not post one word comments nor any comment that is irrelevant or extremely short and has little relevance. That's why our other ones have been getting quite long here lately. Keep this to heart or there will be consequences.


What if its the same word over and over again? huh huh huh huh? :P Don't get upset I'm just yankin your chain bud!
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| November 14, 2009, 9:58 pm
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Quoting Major-General A.C. Weagle

What if its the same word over and over again? huh huh huh huh? :P Don't get upset I'm just yankin your chain bud!

I like to get my point across. >_>
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| November 14, 2009, 10:01 pm
And I do believe these http://www.mocpages.com/moc.php/161036...

...Could eleminate those frail little helicopters.
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| November 14, 2009, 10:54 pm
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Quoting Sammy Harris
And I do believe these http://www.mocpages.com/moc.php/161036...

...Could eleminate those frail little helicopters.

On the contrary, the Ukrainian unit seems to boast a more powerful powerplant as well as larger weight capability. It could fulfil it's AT role along with a bit of dogging in the air if it really came down to that.
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| November 14, 2009, 10:57 pm
Quoting Dr. Spontaneous
On the contrary, the Ukrainian unit seems to boast a more powerful powerplant as well as larger weight capability. It could fulfil it's AT role along with a bit of dogging in the air if it really came down to that.

Helicopters don't move fast enough to dodge heat seaking/radar detection missles. Only fast jets can.

EDIT: And my unit's lighter weight would make it even more manuverable then the Ukranian helicopter.
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| November 14, 2009, 11:18 pm
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Quoting Sammy Harris
Helicopters don't move fast enough to dodge heat seaking/radar detection missles. Only fast jets can.

EDIT: And my unit's lighter weight would make it even more manuverable then the Ukranian helicopter.

I never said it could dodge missiles. However, many modern units contain jamming devices and electronic or more simplistic defenses. Chaff or things of the like are prime examples. Plus, dual rotors generally prove to be more maneuverable for the sheer fact that the they are placed on top of one another which greatly reduces the mechanical displacement caused by a tail rotor. Plus, his rotors have a greater length which generally makes for greater speed and movement.
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| November 14, 2009, 11:24 pm
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Quoting Sammy Harris
And I do believe these http://www.mocpages.com/moc.php/161036...

...Could eleminate those frail little helicopters.

I do believe your use of the words "frail" and "little" do not quite fit. This helicopter is larger and more powerful than an AH-64 Apache. I believe your helicopter would have a very small advantage in maneuverability, but you would have no way of detecting the Anaconda. The Anaconda has a radar that can reach up to 20 miles, so it would have time to call in an Su-51. Your helicopter is detectable by radar, so I could potentialy shoot your helicopter down at 75+ miles with an R-77.
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| November 14, 2009, 11:25 pm
Quoting Dr. Spontaneous
I never said it could dodge missiles. However, many modern units contain jamming devices and electronic or more simplistic defenses. Chaff or things of the like are prime examples. Plus, dual rotors generally prove to be more maneuverable for the sheer fact that the they are placed on top of one another which greatly reduces the mechanical displacement caused by a tail rotor. Plus, his rotors have a greater length which generally makes for greater speed and movement.

Very well, it would apear I am wrong. I'm no expert on military vehicals by any stretch of the imagination.
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| November 14, 2009, 11:27 pm
Quoting Jack Ford
I do believe your use of the words "frail" and "little" do not quite fit. This helicopter is larger and more powerful than an AH-64 Apache. I believe your helicopter would have a very small advantage in maneuverability, but you would have no way of detecting the Anaconda. The Anaconda has a radar that can reach up to 20 miles, so it would have time to call in an Su-51. Your helicopter is detectable by radar, so I could potentialy shoot your helicopter down at 75+ miles with an R-77.

Well, to me it looks quite short and the rotor looks like it could fall off during flight...
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| November 14, 2009, 11:29 pm
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Quoting Sammy Harris
Helicopters don't move fast enough to dodge heat seaking/radar detection missles. Only fast jets can.

EDIT: And my unit's lighter weight would make it even more manuverable then the Ukranian helicopter.

Indeed, you would be more manouverable. I'm afraid that's your only advantage. My helicopter has staggered heat absorbent panels, reducing it's IR signature to nearly nothing. You would have to be within gun range to even pick up the signature, and be that time you would have an Su-51 pulling the trigger.
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| November 14, 2009, 11:29 pm
Quoting Jack Ford
Indeed, you would be more manouverable. I'm afraid that's your only advantage. My helicopter has staggered heat absorbent panels, reducing it's IR signature to nearly nothing. You would have to be within gun range to even pick up the signature, and be that time you would have an Su-51 pulling the trigger.

If your helicopter was out of gun range, I'm sure my pilots would have ample time to evade any barage. And if a missile dosn't alert the pilot of enemy presence, I don't know what would.
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| November 14, 2009, 11:31 pm
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Quoting Sammy Harris
Well, to me it looks quite short and the rotor looks like it could fall off during flight...

Check out the Ka-52. The Ka-65 is 62 studs long. Not very short in my opinon. The rotors are designed off those of the Ka-50 family, which are well known as the most manouverable attack helicopters in service.
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| November 14, 2009, 11:32 pm
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Quoting Sammy Harris
Well, to me it looks quite short and the rotor looks like it could fall off during flight...

Really. Because that exact description seems to fit your helicopter more so. Your rotor isn't large enough, the body is stubby, and the overall shape shows it would have great air resistance in flight. And the payload is out of ratio to the weight of the craft (more de facto, the rotor) which would lead to a great bit of drag.
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| November 14, 2009, 11:33 pm
Quoting Jack Ford
Check out the Ka-52. The Ka-65 is 62 studs long. Not very short in my opinon. The rotors are designed off those of the Ka-50 family, which are well known as the most manouverable attack helicopters in service.

in this context short is a term used to describe hight, not lenght.
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| November 14, 2009, 11:34 pm
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Quoting Sammy Harris
If your helicopter was out of gun range, I'm sure my pilots would have ample time to evade any barage. And if a missile dosn't alert the pilot of enemy presence, I don't know what would.

You don't have any method of escaping the missile system of an Su-51. The missiles are able to pull 13gs, which will kill a person. The sheer pressure is deadly. So that eliminates any probability of out manouvering it. Also, an Su-51 has six AA missiles ranged at over 75 miles. You cannot detect an Su-51 outside of five at best conditions. I beleive the odds are against you in a dogfight.
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| November 14, 2009, 11:35 pm
Quoting Dr. Spontaneous
Really. Because that exact description seems to fit your helicopter more so. Your rotor isn't large enough, the body is stubby, and the overall shape shows it would have great air resistance in flight. And the payload is out of ratio to the weight of the craft (more de facto, the rotor) which would lead to a great bit of drag.

If you decided to take the time to read my other comment (instead of finding other ways to look down upon me) you would have seen I am not an expert on military vehicals, all I know about helicopters comes from CoD4.
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| November 14, 2009, 11:36 pm
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Quoting Sammy Harris
Quoting Jack Ford
Check out the Ka-52. The Ka-65 is 62 studs long. Not very short in my opinon. The rotors are designed off those of the Ka-50 family, which are well known as the most manouverable attack helicopters in service.

in this context short is a term used to describe height, not length.

Ah, I see. In terms of streamlined speed, short is better than tall. Air can slip over a flat helicopter much easier than a tall one, thus making the helicopter more efficient.
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| November 14, 2009, 11:37 pm
Quoting Jack Ford
You don't have any method of escaping the missile system of an Su-51. The missiles are able to pull 13gs, which will kill a person. The sheer pressure is deadly. So that eliminates any probability of out manouvering it. Also, an Su-51 has six AA missiles ranged at over 75 miles. You cannot detect an Su-51 outside of five at best conditions. I beleive the odds are against you in a dogfight.

Perhaps a 1v1, but my Stormcrows fly in packs. They are much cheaper then your Su-51s.

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| November 14, 2009, 11:38 pm
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Quoting Sammy Harris
Quoting Jack Ford
You don't have any method of escaping the missile system of an Su-51. The missiles are able to pull 13gs, which will kill a person. The sheer pressure is deadly. So that eliminates any probability of out manouvering it. Also, an Su-51 has six AA missiles ranged at over 75 miles. You cannot detect an Su-51 outside of five at best conditions. I beleive the odds are against you in a dogfight.

Perhaps a 1v1, but my Stormcrows fly in packs. They are much cheaper then your Su-51s.

Su-51s fly in flights of four. That's 24 missiles.
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| November 14, 2009, 11:40 pm
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Quoting Sammy Harris
If you decided to take the time to read my other comment (instead of finding other ways to look down upon me) you would have seen I am not an expert on military vehicals, all I know about helicopters comes from CoD4.

If you're going to play that card I'm going to look down upon you in every way possible. Take the context to heart to better understand my argument and best what I say by improving what's going down. Instead, you continuously boast inferior statements that show little to no progress as to the information and overall technical data being displayed. I'm here to keep things in line and I'll use every effective means necessary. Roll with the punches.
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| November 14, 2009, 11:41 pm
Quoting Jack Ford
Su-51s fly in flights of four. That's 24 missiles.

Then we could combat them with four packs of Stormcrows. A rough estimate would have 5 LH-1s = to 1 Su-51 seeing as LH-1s have very few 'gadges'. So 20 LH-1 Stormcrows would hold 120 missles. That's 96 more then four SU-51s
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| November 14, 2009, 11:43 pm
Quoting Dr. Spontaneous
If you're going to play that card I'm going to look down upon you in every way possible. Take the context to heart to better understand my argument and best what I say by improving what's going down. Instead, you continuously boast inferior statements that show little to no progress as to the information and overall technical data being displayed. I'm here to keep things in line and I'll use every effective means necessary. Roll with the punches.

Look, I've already admited I'm wrong, and I'm going to make improvements on my next helicopter. On top of that, I'll probably do a bit more research on military vehicles before building my next one. But for now, I have to go on my basic understanding of physics, like less weight = faster movement.
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| November 14, 2009, 11:48 pm
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Quoting Sammy Harris
Then we could combat them with four packs of Stormcrows. A rough estimate would have 5 LH-1s = to 1 Su-51 seeing as LH-1s have very few 'gadges'. So 20 LH-1 Stormcrows would hold 120 missles. That's 96 more then four SU-51s

yes, but missiles are useless against an Su-51, and there are lots of four flights of Su-51s that can get to the scene quick. An Su-51 can get from China to northern Russia in less than a minute, and China is the maximum distance that they would be flying from.
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| November 14, 2009, 11:52 pm
Quoting Jack Ford
yes, but missiles are useless against an Su-51, and there are lots of four flights of Su-51s that can get to the scene quick. An Su-51 can get from China to northern Russia in less than a minute, and China is the maximum distance that they would be flying from.

Perhaps one missle, but a whole barrage of them would do some damage. And as for your jets being able to get there quickly, well, I better hope my boys to get out of there quickly. But Heli v Jet is a landslide battle. A jet would come out on top any day.
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| November 14, 2009, 11:56 pm
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This debate between y'all has made me aware of four things:

1: MOCs do not constitute power, therefore, someone who has not made a single thing for this group has a chance of fighting someone who has been working to make things to fit in this group.

2: I need a stealth helicopter, and I need it now.

3: I need a stealth plane that can fight the SU-51, and I need it now.

4: I need an active defense system, and I need it now.
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| November 15, 2009, 12:07 am
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Quoting Awesome-o-saurus The Not-So-Great
This debate between y'all has made me aware of four things:

1: MOCs do not constitute power, therefore, someone who has not made a single thing for this group has a chance of fighting someone who has been working to make things to fit in this group.

2: I need a stealth helicopter, and I need it now.

3: I need a stealth plane that can fight the SU-51, and I need it now.

4: I need an active defense system, and I need it now.

But everyone loves a defenseless country.

As far as defense systems go, what do you have in mind? An array of emplacements or various equipment pieces?
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| November 15, 2009, 12:11 am
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Quoting Dr. Spontaneous
But everyone loves a defenseless country.

As far as defense systems go, what do you have in mind? An array of emplacements or various equipment pieces?


Well, I know the Israelis have this interesting system on their tanks, to intercept incoming projectiles. Something like that, but 2035, and PCU'd. AKA, grey and black OEAA stuff.
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| November 15, 2009, 12:15 am
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Quoting Awesome-o-saurus The Not-So-Great

Well, I know the Israelis have this interesting system on their tanks, to intercept incoming projectiles. Something like that, but 2035, and PCU'd. AKA, grey and black OEAA stuff.

I have something like that on all of my newest vehicles. It is the thing that sicks out of the top with the two rods in it.
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| November 15, 2009, 12:45 am
Quoting Awesome-o-saurus The Not-So-Great
This debate between y'all has made me aware of four things:

1: MOCs do not constitute power, therefore, someone who has not made a single thing for this group has a chance of fighting someone who has been working to make things to fit in this group.

2: I need a stealth helicopter, and I need it now.

3: I need a stealth plane that can fight the SU-51, and I need it now.

4: I need an active defense system, and I need it now.


Well for numbers 2 & 3 Try altering a stealth harrier type aircraft just like what I did with the F-22 Raptor( Think its about time for me to build another type of aircraft)

This is just my opinion that I'd thought I'd share...
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| November 15, 2009, 12:53 am
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Quoting Jack Ford
You must also remember that you have a population limit. There is no way that Oregon and Washington could have any more than a million able men to fight. East Russia could have up to 20 million. No MOCs does not equal no power, it equals outdated power that already exists. Jewell still has 1/3rd of the Russian Armed forces at his disposal. Nonetheless, we definitely will need a conflict moderator before we go on...


Ack, I just remembered I need to respond to this! Oregon and Washington alone could never rally one millions soldiers. That would be roughly a third of the population of each state. However, we are not alone.

Combine that with Idaho, British Columbia, California, Nevada, Arizona, Hawaii, and our assorted island territories, we can marshal at least one million.

Also, Eastern Russia is one of the most sparsely populated places on the planet. It might have 1/3rd the Russian military, but East Russia has 6.7 million people as of 2002, and as of that year, estimated to fall to 4.5 million in 2015. I'd say it's got from 2-8 million people total in 2035, if we go by optimistic population growth and the predicted drop. Now, combine Oregon and Washington, and you have 6-8 million, as of now. I'd say, the PCU as whole is more populated than the Russian far east as a whole.

But then again, you have the 20 million strong conscript CAS army.

Edit: Dang, homie, my post is reaching Jeffrey length... Anyways, new stuff from the PCU:

Stealth-ification of the already near-stealth IF-2S has completed, resulting in the IF-3 prototype: http://www.flickr.com/photos/thenotsogreat/4104487015/

The AGMS-2S has been made, with added stabilization fins to scatter any gutter-brained Dr S style thoughts: http://www.flickr.com/photos/thenotsogreat/4105253586/in/photostream/

And if you ever wondered what basic OEAA equipped infantry from Oregon, Washington, and British Columbia looked like: http://www.flickr.com/photos/thenotsogreat/4104487265/in/photostream/
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| November 15, 2009, 1:16 am
yo guys, my AMF is ready for action
http://www.mocpages.com/moc.php/165746
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| November 15, 2009, 7:26 am
Hmm, I am not liking this recent turn of events...

@Kelsey: I know you are frustrated with us attacking us but it was settled between us and CAS that we could keep one little country.

@Ford: Ditto

@Kelsey and Ford: I'm not going to initate this "attack" until Mr. Smith is on...
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| November 15, 2009, 1:06 pm
Quoting Awesome-o-saurus The Not-So-Great

Well, I know the Israelis have this interesting system on their tanks, to intercept incoming projectiles. Something like that, but 2035, and PCU'd. AKA, grey and black OEAA stuff.

I implement a devise such as that as well, both on my HalfTrack and the Prowler. It is always mounted right next to the 30mm chaingun on a small turret. I'll probably use that turret design for forever...
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| November 15, 2009, 5:17 pm
Quoting Ryan Blackout
yo guys, my AMF is ready for action
http://www.mocpages.com/moc.php/165746

It seems you have requested to join my group "Federal Empire of Prusso-Egypt."

If so, you are requesting to join my country, Prusso-Egypt. Your country would thus be under my control. Is this what you wish? If so, I shall bound through the roof with ecstasy.

If not, then you can join my other group "Prusso-Egypt & Allies." That group is for my allies as well as members of the empire. I will be very glad to have a new ally in the CAS and southeast Asia(have you ever met Brian Tioseco, Communist Monarch of the Philippines?)
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| November 15, 2009, 5:29 pm
My fighter/bomber is almost complete. a few details and the weapons systems need to be added, then testing will begin.
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| November 15, 2009, 5:29 pm
Quoting Thomas N
My fighter/bomber is almost complete. a few details and the weapons systems need to be added, then testing will begin.

Awesome. Keep 'em coming, Thomas, because I don't know when I'll ever finish sorting my legos... and I can't really build anything until I do.
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| November 15, 2009, 5:33 pm
Quoting Field Marshal Cliffe
It seems you have requested to join my group "Federal Empire of Prusso-Egypt."

If so, you are requesting to join my country, Prusso-Egypt. Your country would thus be under my control. Is this what you wish? If so, I shall bound through the roof with ecstasy.


Oh sorry. I got it wrong. Well. I wish to join ur allies.(not under control ur empire)
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| November 15, 2009, 8:27 pm
Quoting Sammy Harris
Helicopters don't move fast enough to dodge heat seaking/radar detection missles. Only fast jets can.

EDIT: And my unit's lighter weight would make it even more manuverable then the Ukranian helicopter.

no offense, but your helicopter couldn't get off the ground with its small blades. that is coming from an ally...
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| November 15, 2009, 8:27 pm
Quoting xx TediousDestroyer xx
no offense, but your helicopter couldn't get off the ground with its small blades. that is coming from an ally...

After seeing people say that a thousand times I have corrected it. There's just no point in re-posting it.
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| November 15, 2009, 8:44 pm
Quoting Ryan Blackout

Oh sorry. I got it wrong. Well. I wish to join ur allies.(not under control ur empire)

Wonderful, I already sent you an invite.

While we're here- would you be so kind as to help me save my glorious empire from the vile clutches of Armenia and the SSW? PLEASE??? I need all the help I can get... and your planes would be an awesome help in Egypt against Armenia.
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| November 15, 2009, 8:48 pm
Quoting Jeffery Smith
Hey guys, sorry I haven't been on in a while, I've had an awful last two weeks. First I was very sick, most likely H1N1, and once I got better I was informed that my cousin had died and had to go to his funeral in Albany. Once I got back my dad and I went up hunting in Maine to take our mindsoff of it. I'll likely update the combat situation within the next couple of days.

HEY HEY!!!!! HE'S BACK!!!!!

*cheering and shouting*

Kaiser Pharaoh: 'Pharaoh, quick, get that battleship finished! Friedrich, strategize! And Field Marshal, GET THOSE LEGOS SORTED!'

{By your command, my emperor.} -Pharaoh Ramesses II

+JAWOHL, MEIN KAISER!+ -King Friedrich II of Prussia

YES SIR EMPEROR, SIR!!!
(me)
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| November 15, 2009, 9:26 pm
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Quoting Jeffery Smith
Hey guys, sorry I haven't been on in a while, I've had an awful last two weeks. First I was very sick, most likely H1N1, and once I got better I was informed that my cousin had died and had to go to his funeral in Albany. Once I got back my dad and I went up hunting in Maine to take our mindsoff of it. I'll likely update the combat situation within the next couple of days.

hey dude sorry about you cousin. Did you bag anything on your hunting trip? and glad to have you back.
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| November 15, 2009, 9:27 pm
Quoting Jeffery Smith
Hey guys, sorry I haven't been on in a while, I've had an awful last two weeks. First I was very sick, most likely H1N1, and once I got better I was informed that my cousin had died and had to go to his funeral in Albany. Once I got back my dad and I went up hunting in Maine to take our mindsoff of it. I'll likely update the combat situation within the next couple of days.

And so sorry to hear about your sickness and your cousin... such tragic events. Not to worry, I'm sure moderating a global conflict will ease your mind! Man, is it relieving to have you back.
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| November 15, 2009, 9:29 pm
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Quoting Field Marshal Cliffe
Wonderful, I already sent you an invite.

While we're here- would you be so kind as to help me save my glorious empire from the vile clutches of Armenia and the SSW? PLEASE??? I need all the help I can get... and your planes would be an awesome help in Egypt against Armenia.

If it's a glorious empire than shouldn't it be able to sustain itself from attack. Right now, Indonesia would do best to keep itself from the front in order to best its economy, government structure, and greatly improve its arsenal size. Prusso-Egypt is the weakest link in the CAS as of right now and the members of its union must shun those who cannot prove great hope for the unit. Plus, if Indonesia did enter the conflict, its equipment will just be intercepted by Armenian emplacements and my own. Further help from any nation will be futile.
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| November 15, 2009, 9:32 pm
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Quoting Field Marshal Cliffe
{By your command, my emperor.} -Pharaoh Ramesses II



HE STOLEZ MAH BSG LINEZ!1!11!

Governator Awe challenges you to a duel, Pharaoh!

...In other news, Oregon Engineering And Aeronautics, or Oregon Aeronautics And Engineering, which ever one I remember to say first, has been working on a new modular tank system. Smaller than the HAT-1, but no Ripsaw either.
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| November 15, 2009, 9:39 pm
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Quoting Dr. Spontaneous
If it's a glorious empire than shouldn't it be able to sustain itself from attack. Right now, Indonesia would do best to keep itself from the front in order to best its economy, government structure, and greatly improve its arsenal size. Prusso-Egypt is the weakest link in the CAS as of right now and the members of its union must shun those who cannot prove great hope for the unit. Plus, if Indonesia did enter the conflict, its equipment will just be intercepted by Armenian emplacements and my own. Further help from any nation will be futile.


And it's a good bet Idaho would stop those shipments. We are the *Pacific* Union after all, we got ships all over. Probably. I'm not sure where Nick has the navy right now...
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| November 15, 2009, 9:43 pm
Quoting Awesome-o-saurus The Not-So-Great
Governator Awe challenges you to a duel, Pharaoh!

I TOTALLY LOL'D

{You know, dueling is completely legal in Prusso-Egypt. So long as it does not involve firearms. OR game cards. Would you like to duel some day? :-) } -The Pharaoh
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| November 15, 2009, 9:45 pm
Quoting Dr. Spontaneous
If it's a glorious empire than shouldn't it be able to sustain itself from attack. Right now, Indonesia would do best to keep itself from the front in order to best its economy, government structure, and greatly improve its arsenal size. Prusso-Egypt is the weakest link in the CAS as of right now and the members of its union must shun those who cannot prove great hope for the unit. Plus, if Indonesia did enter the conflict, its equipment will just be intercepted by Armenian emplacements and my own. Further help from any nation will be futile.

:-(
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| November 15, 2009, 9:47 pm
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Quoting Field Marshal Cliffe
I TOTALLY LOL'D

{You know, dueling is completely legal in Prusso-Egypt. So long as it does not involve firearms. OR game cards. Would you like to duel some day? :-) } -The Pharaoh


We're gonna fight this in the most manly of fashions!

No, not a drinking contest, and not a fist fight. A duel of swords!
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| November 15, 2009, 9:49 pm
Quoting Awesome-o-saurus The Not-So-Great

We're gonna fight this in the most manly of fashions!

No, not a drinking contest, and not a fist fight. A duel of swords!

{Magnificent! That is how it is done! Although the King of Prussia is far better than I with a sword... It is nonetheless a skill I posses. Would it be to your liking if we fought with these? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Khopesh Or perhaps we could chariot duel? I am FAR more skilled there.} -Pharaoh
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| November 15, 2009, 10:01 pm
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Quoting Field Marshal Cliffe
{Magnificent! That is how it is done! Although the King of Prussia is far better than I with a sword... It is nonetheless a skill I posses. Would it be to your liking if we fought with these? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Khopesh Or perhaps we could chariot duel? I am FAR more skilled there.} -Pharaoh


Khopesh? We ain't use no Khopesh. We like glaives, but that's more of a recent thing. If you want Oregon's history, the simple spears of the natives dating back to the Ice Age are one option...

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| November 15, 2009, 10:14 pm
Quoting Awesome-o-saurus The Not-So-Great

Khopesh? We ain't use no Khopesh. We like glaives, but that's more of a recent thing. If you want Oregon's history, the simple spears of the natives dating back to the Ice Age are one option...

{Ah. It is nearly impossible to fence with a Khopesh anyway, even though we Egyptians invented fencing... So, how fares a chariot duel then? No, not the War Chariot of my army, but real chariots. I, of course, am known to be the best charioteer in all of Egypt. Not to boast, of course; I am the Pharaoh.} -Pharaoh
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| November 15, 2009, 10:22 pm
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Quoting Field Marshal Cliffe
{Ah. It is nearly impossible to fence with a Khopesh anyway, even though we Egyptians invented fencing... So, how fares a chariot duel then? No, not the War Chariot of my army, but real chariots. I, of course, am known to be the best charioteer in all of Egypt. Not to boast, of course; I am the Pharaoh.}


Well, that won't do, there aren't any chariots here. What can we do for a duel? Demolition derby? Legal trivia showdown? Crossbow-off? Dogfight with our nation's respective fighters?
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| November 15, 2009, 10:24 pm
Quoting Awesome-o-saurus The Not-So-Great

Well, that won't do, there aren't any chariots here. What can we do for a duel? Demolition derby? Legal trivia showdown? Crossbow-off? Dogfight with our nation's respective fighters?

{Why can we not duel in Egypt? Ah, right... you challenged me. Well then... May I bring two chariots to the Pacific Northwest? Other than that, A dogfight should be fun.} -the Pharaoh
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| November 15, 2009, 10:30 pm
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Quoting Field Marshal Cliffe
{Why can we not duel in Egypt? Ah, right... you challenged me. Well then... May I bring two chariots to the Pacific Northwest? Other than that, A dogfight should be fun.} -the Pharaoh


Hmm... Motorized chariot? It'd be like a bike gang war. With chariots.
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| November 15, 2009, 10:35 pm
Quoting Field Marshal Cliffe
Wonderful, I already sent you an invite.

While we're here- would you be so kind as to help me save my glorious empire from the vile clutches of Armenia and the SSW? PLEASE??? I need all the help I can get... and your planes would be an awesome help in Egypt against Armenia.

Don't forget PCU.
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| November 15, 2009, 11:27 pm
@Awe: I have 10 destroyers and 5 ACs in the Pacific ports waiting for shipment stops. Plus, Sammy has his ships...
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| November 15, 2009, 11:29 pm
Quoting Nick Shelton
@Awe: I have 10 destroyers and 5 ACs in the Pacific ports waiting for shipment stops. Plus, Sammy has his ships...

Yes, I have my patrol boats, but nothing heavy.
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| November 15, 2009, 11:51 pm
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Several weeks ago I moved troops into Alaska in case the CAS attacked East Russia, like this seems to be headed for. Now these troops, tanks, guns, planes, and all will be moving across the Bering Strait. Let's get this war started!
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| November 16, 2009, 12:42 am
I'm mobilizing 5 HAT-1s, 5 HAT-2s, 10 IF-2Ss, 3 MA-1s, and 10 LH-1s to the borders of Chukotka. The aircrafts should get there in about 6-7 hours, but all the ground vehicals will be shipped by sea, and it will take about 3 days to get those there.

EDIT: Almost forgot infantry! I'll send about 200 soldiers, that's probably half of my army right there...
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| November 16, 2009, 12:47 am
Quoting Jeffery Smith
Hey guys, sorry I haven't been on in a while, I've had an awful last two weeks. First I was very sick, most likely H1N1, and once I got better I was informed that my cousin had died and had to go to his funeral in Albany. Once I got back my dad and I went up hunting in Maine to take our mindsoff of it. I'll likely update the combat situation within the next couple of days.


Nice to see/hear that your feeling better, and you have my sympathies about your cousin.

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| November 16, 2009, 1:57 pm
Quoting Awesome-o-saurus The Not-So-Great

Hmm... Motorized chariot? It'd be like a bike gang war. With chariots.

{Why not let me bring the finest horses of Egypt? I am much more skilled with a horse than with a motor vehicle.} -the Pharaoh
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| November 16, 2009, 5:58 pm
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Thanks for the update, Jeff. Greatly appreciated.

Anyhow, with the SSW's large gain we are surely to have momentum. Reinforcing the frontlines will be the main objective as well as pushing for the next level of assault. Routine sorties from MCAPs will become more regular as to destroy some of the greater amassement of nearing armors; this reads that MCAPs will only be carrying AT munitions. The Su-51's bought from Ukraine will be doing the same, but instead focusing themselves in the air to gain late air-supremacy. SOF will be edging forward of the main advancements to gather intel and neutralize dug-in areas. Warsaw or bust, gentlemen.
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| November 16, 2009, 6:33 pm
100 GAF-1s will set out on a "shock and awe" mission by dropping as many bombs as possible.

10 bombs per fighter, making that 1,000 bombs I think. They will be hitting up Warsaw and hopefully we can balance the two wars on our hands...
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| November 16, 2009, 6:55 pm
Quoting Field Marshal Cliffe
:-(

Well, i'll do my best to send reinforcement. But my planes dont have enough fuel to reach cairo though. Except you do have refueling aircraft at disposal...
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| November 16, 2009, 8:23 pm
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My air forces have arrived in far east CAS territory, and my tank division should arrive by the weekend. 150 T-84 MBTs are to be deployed, as well as several hundred APCs. Hopefully, none of these forces will need to see combat, but it's not looking that way. SAMs have been set up to prevent any enemy aircraft from entering CAS held territory.
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| November 16, 2009, 8:29 pm
Modification to the C-F/A-22D Global Raptor has commenced, we will concentrate mainly on improving the design structure of the Magnetic Thrust Vectoring Nozzels as well as the Vertical Thrusters on the body of the aircraft.

We have also begun making variants of of the CF/A-18 [Pics comming hopefully soon], it too will have the updated Magnetic Thrust Vectoring Nozzels, however since it already is built for NAVY purposes we wont convert it to a Harrier Type/Style aircraft.
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| November 16, 2009, 8:30 pm
Quoting Ryan Blackout
Well, i'll do my best to send reinforcement. But my planes dont have enough fuel to reach cairo though. Except you do have refueling aircraft at disposal...

I can also assist you with in-air refueling since we both are trying to help Field Marshall Cliffe!

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| November 16, 2009, 8:34 pm
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Quoting Jack Ford
My air forces have arrived in far east CAS territory, and my tank division should arrive by the weekend. 150 T-84 MBTs are to be deployed, as well as several hundred APCs. Hopefully, none of these forces will need to see combat, but it's not looking that way. SAMs have been set up to prevent any enemy aircraft from entering CAS held territory.


*Spooky voice* Be wary of the Alaskan..!

Anyways, I'm sure my forces from across the Strait have arrived on the Uelen peninsula or whatever it is called, and more are on their way. Let the HAT-1 meet the T-84, let the IF-3 meet the Su-51, and let Pacific meet eastern Europe! Also, let the pwnage begin.

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| November 16, 2009, 8:42 pm
The Pacific Union's 15,000 troops and it's Naval Fleet will arrive by Friday.

The fleet will be setting up shop in the ocean and be watchinf for subs.
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| November 16, 2009, 8:55 pm
An hour ago, the 100 GAF-1s were sent to Warsaw and should be arriving in 10 minutes...
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| November 16, 2009, 9:35 pm
Im sending 9 AMF now !. The new TLS is armed. ready to blast 'em out the skies..

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| November 16, 2009, 9:55 pm
The GAF-1s will surely shoot down your fighters but okay, lets go!
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| November 16, 2009, 10:04 pm
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Quoting Ryan Blackout
Im sending 9 AMF now !. The new TLS is armed. ready to blast 'em out the skies..

Just a heads up, your planes will be intercepted. Armenia is top-of-the-line in military equipment and is well dug-in. To fly to Poland, you'd surely have cross either his or my own territory where AAA is everso present. Plus, your government is rather premature as of now granted you've just been put in power. A swift assault and a coup can be just the thing to put you out of power. Defense before offense.
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| November 16, 2009, 10:05 pm
So my fighter/bombers are going to be just be flying with no defense. Free bombing! Know we wait for results...
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| November 16, 2009, 10:06 pm
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Quoting Ryan Blackout
Im sending 9 AMF now !. The new TLS is armed. ready to blast 'em out the skies..

You can't hit what you can't see. Southern Command is scrambling 12 MIG-68's and 2 E-128's to intercept your forces.
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| November 16, 2009, 10:21 pm
PCU thanks it's allies in scaring away the potential enemy...
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| November 16, 2009, 10:24 pm
Quoting Ryan Blackout
Well, i'll do my best to send reinforcement. But my planes dont have enough fuel to reach cairo though. Except you do have refueling aircraft at disposal...

I give you all my thanks, friend. Oil is ridiculously abundant in Prusso-Egypt, so of course we have re-fueling aircraft! Make sure your fighters immediately engage Armenian ones when they get there, too, please. They need to go down, quick. Hopefully the combined forces of my Ho-XIIs and BatHawks with your fighters will be enough to give them a really hard time.
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| November 16, 2009, 10:46 pm
Quoting Major-General A.C. Weagle
Quoting Ryan Blackout
Well, i'll do my best to send reinforcement. But my planes dont have enough fuel to reach cairo though. Except you do have refueling aircraft at disposal...

I can also assist you with in-air refueling since we both are trying to help Field Marshall Cliffe!

All thanks to you as well, my ever-faithful ally!
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| November 16, 2009, 10:56 pm
With Idaho's invasion of Poland, I'm am now essentially cut off from Prussia, further supplies would probably never make it there if I even tried to send them.

As of now, I believe I have 25 or so helicopters operating under Cliffe's command on Prussian soil. And my Navy will continue to hold its presence in the Baltic. However, facing being quite outnumbered, my navy will not take attacking. Rather, it will assume a defensive role of our waters.

In other news, my fighter bomber is now finished, will be undergoing testing, and shall be released tomorrow.

I'm off to bolster defenses along the Lithuanian border. I assume that is where we shall be invaded when and if the time comes, and better safe than sorry.
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| November 16, 2009, 11:39 pm
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Recently, the Pacific Union has began training several very special teams of soldiers at the famous Groom Lake installation, AKA Area 51. Now, don't expect plasma cannons, Master Cheif armor, and hand held thermonuclear warhea ds, these guys are just well trained. Well, will be very well trained. They'll be mostly used in counter-terrorist operations and the like. It was figured I announce this because I have the most credibility...
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| November 16, 2009, 11:48 pm
Cliffe, I'm handing command of my 9 AMF to you. Now, they are over india enroute to cairo.ETA 3hours
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| November 16, 2009, 11:56 pm
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Quoting Ryan Blackout
Cliffe, I'm handing command of my 9 AMF to you. Now, they are over india enroute to cairo.ETA 3hours

Have fun flying over Iran, Turkmenistan, Syria, Saudi Arabia, and my lines in the Sinai.
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| November 17, 2009, 12:01 am
for some really important reason, im taking 5 AMF back to Jakarta. so the rest still under Cliffe control
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| November 17, 2009, 6:43 am
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I'm gonna do something really mean... I'm going to blockade all PCU ships in the Mediterranean. All PCU ships going past Somalia or Morroco will be fired upon. This is a safety precaution, guaranteeing that your full forces will not be able to reach Russia in time to do anything. The mighty CAS awaits the battle... O conflict moderators, where art though?
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| November 17, 2009, 1:23 pm
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Quoting Ryan Blackout
for some really important reason, im taking 5 AMF back to Jakarta. so the rest still under Cliffe control

Send your fighters down to India, then over to Madagascar, then over to the mainland. From there, head North until you reach Egypt. This way they are entirely in my airspace, which is semi-neutral. (PCU aircraft are not allowed as a safety measure.) My Air Force Bases are open to land and refuel as you please. *EDIT*
Once you get to the Northern border of Ethiopia, head West for a while, and come into Egypt from the East. This will avoid any patrolling aircraft, and guarantee your safe arrival.
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| November 17, 2009, 1:26 pm
Quoting Jack Ford
Send your fighters down to India, then over to Madagascar, then over to the mainland. From there, head North until you reach Egypt. This way they are entirely in my airspace, which is semi-neutral. (PCU aircraft are not allowed as a safety measure.) My Air Force Bases are open to land and refuel as you please. *EDIT*
Once you get to the Northern border of Ethiopia, head West for a while, and come into Egypt from the East. This will avoid any patrolling aircraft, and guarantee your safe arrival.
Looks like Jack just threw a wrench in Cole's plans. Hey Jack, can I fly My planes east over Russia, to a point where they turn south, fly over western China and then into India, from there my planes may also be able to make it to Madagascar, Africa, and finally Egypt, entirely in your airspace.

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| November 17, 2009, 4:23 pm
Quoting Jeffery Smith
Jack's wrench was thrown too late, the mission for the fighters was already launched. Had this offer been extended earlier, it would have likely prevented the aircraft from being shot down. And your plan would take up a whole lot of fuel and would be quite a waste of money. I would advise keeping the entirety of your forces in defense of Prussia rather than throwing away a whole lot of money and resources to try and aid Egypt. You're in charge of your region of Prusso-Egypt, worry about that region before any other part of the empire.

You said in a previous conversation forum that that my planned aircraft movement "never happened". Other members brought up points on how my relatively new air force could not possibly constitute 550 aircraft. That, and other issues with my claims, led you the dismiss that my plan ever happened.
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| November 17, 2009, 5:31 pm
Quoting Thomas N
You said in a previous conversation forum that that my planned aircraft movement "never happened". Other members brought up points on how my relatively new air force could not possibly constitute 550 aircraft. That, and other issues with my claims, led you the dismiss that my plan ever happened.

and I quote:
Quoting Jeffery Smith
Starting off first was the controversial transport of aircraft from Estonian airspace that would need to fly over the SSW, Armenia, or the MU to reach the Mediterranean, if you guys havent noticed. Going any alternate route would simply not be possible due to the immense increase distance that would need to be covered. This flight did not occur, Thomas, Im sure you see that sending your aircraft to Egypt would not be possible and sending them would result in a 100% loss of them. Im doing you a favor by declaring the flight never occurred.

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| November 17, 2009, 5:35 pm
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Quoting Jack Ford
I'm gonna do something really mean... I'm going to blockade all PCU ships in the Mediterranean. All PCU ships going past Somalia or Morroco will be fired upon. This is a safety precaution, guaranteeing that your full forces will not be able to reach Russia in time to do anything. The mighty CAS awaits the battle... O conflict moderators, where art though?


Thought this war wasn't going global. Oh well, now it seems to be. Luckily, California, Hawaii, and I have no forces in Europe or Africa, aside from our base in Malta. Most of our troops are headed to Chukotka, one way or another. I bet my reinforcments of roughly 20,000 have arrived there from Alaska by now, putting our numbers at 60,000. That's the entire Oregon and Washington military, the 20,000 of British Columbia, as usual, is left to defend our home territory, plus the Idaho troops left on guard by Nick. I cannot speak for Hawaii or California, though. Also, the first batch of IF-3's should be ready in one to two weeks.

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| November 17, 2009, 6:41 pm
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Quoting Brendan Dore
Quoting Awesome-o-saurus The Not-So-Great

Thought this war wasn't going global. Oh well, now it seems to be. Luckily, California, Hawaii, and I have no forces in Europe or Africa, aside from our base in Malta. Most of our troops are headed to Chukotka, one way or another. I bet my reinforcments of roughly 20,000 have arrived there from Alaska by now, putting our numbers at 60,000. That's the entire Oregon and Washington military, the 20,000 of British Columbia, as usual, is left to defend our home territory, plus the Idaho troops left on guard by Nick. I cannot speak for Hawaii or California, though. Also, the first batch of IF-3's should be ready in one to two weeks.


So it's going to be World War 3 or World War 4?


This is fast becoming WWIII, because the PCU is the only power involved in both these developing wars. Anyone willing to help us is welcome *hint hint*....
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| November 17, 2009, 6:58 pm
Quoting Field Marshal Cliffe
I give you all my thanks, friend. Oil is ridiculously abundant in Prusso-Egypt, so of course we have re-fueling aircraft! Make sure your fighters immediately engage Armenian ones when they get there, too, please. They need to go down, quick. Hopefully the combined forces of my Ho-XIIs and BatHawks with your fighters will be enough to give them a really hard time.

On that note, Texas would like to extend its arms to the PCU and Scotland and let them "dip"
into our oil supply when their aircraft need to refuel.
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| November 17, 2009, 6:59 pm
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Quoting xx TediousDestroyer xx
On that note, Texas would like to extend its arms to the PCU and Scotland and let them "dip"
into our oil supply when their aircraft need to refuel.

Scotland isn't active in any case...

Anyhow, the SSW has gained an additional 5,000 volunteers. The regular training time will be reduced from the extensive training and field testing of 32 weeks, to instead 12 weeks. Poland is close enough to have the men tried in the latter phase.

Another 10,000 men and women are expected to join service within the next three weeks.
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| November 17, 2009, 7:02 pm
Quoting Awesome-o-saurus The Not-So-Great

Thought this war wasn't going global. Oh well, now it seems to be. Luckily, California, Hawaii, and I have no forces in Europe or Africa, aside from our base in Malta. Most of our troops are headed to Chukotka, one way or another. I bet my reinforcments of roughly 20,000 have arrived there from Alaska by now, putting our numbers at 60,000. That's the entire Oregon and Washington military, the 20,000 of British Columbia, as usual, is left to defend our home territory, plus the Idaho troops left on guard by Nick. I cannot speak for Hawaii or California, though. Also, the first batch of IF-3's should be ready in one to two weeks.

I've sent my considerably small army there. My forces should be arriving tomarrow.
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| November 17, 2009, 7:41 pm
Quoting Dr. Spontaneous
Scotland isn't active in any case...

Yeah, I'm kind of just floating around my territory, although technically the blockade is active, meaning that I am active in one case.

Quoting xx TediousDestroyer xx
On that note, Texas would like to extend its arms to the PCU and Scotland and let them "dip"
into our oil supply when their aircraft need to refuel.
Being that I bought a whole lot of oil from Prussia-Egypt quite some time ago and that my military forces aren't currently engaged in any hostilities, I won't be in need of such a offer at the moment; if anything does come up, I'll be glad to take you up on it, though. Perhaps you could trade/sell/gift oil to the SSW, who I would think, would be in need of such a resource due to their current combat operations in Europe.

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| November 17, 2009, 7:44 pm
Quoting xx TediousDestroyer xx
On that note, Texas would like to extend its arms to the PCU and Scotland and let them "dip"
into our oil supply when their aircraft need to refuel.

Seeing that I have only 10,931 square miles of land, and that all I have are sand, guns, and lava, I'll be in dire need of some fuel by the time this conflict is over.
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| November 17, 2009, 7:52 pm
Speaking of oil, which there is always a ridiculous abundance of in Prusso-Egypt(because we use alternative energy for everything but planes), Prusso-Egyptian oil exports will now extend to every country willing to buy except our direct enemies. This will certainly bring in tons more cash for the war effort. The only oil that will be kept is the high-grade stuff used for jet fuel, and not much of that is needed anyway.

So, WHO WANTS SOME BLACK GOLD??? $35.00(USD) A BARREL!!!
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| November 17, 2009, 7:56 pm
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Quoting Thomas N
Quoting Jack Ford
Send your fighters down to India, then over to Madagascar, then over to the mainland. From there, head North until you reach Egypt. This way they are entirely in my airspace, which is semi-neutral. (PCU aircraft are not allowed as a safety measure.) My Air Force Bases are open to land and refuel as you please. *EDIT*
Once you get to the Northern border of Ethiopia, head West for a while, and come into Egypt from the East. This will avoid any patrolling aircraft, and guarantee your safe arrival.
Looks like Jack just threw a wrench in Cole's plans. Hey Jack, can I fly My planes east over Russia, to a point where they turn south, fly over western China and then into India, from there my planes may also be able to make it to Madagascar, Africa, and finally Egypt, entirely in your airspace.
I do not believe anything I do will alter the outcome of the war. This is intended to drag the war out for a little longer, buying me time to do some heavy damage in East Russia. This battle's going to be a bit crazy, as it's 80 below there. More casualties are likely to be from the weather than enemy fire. Thankfully, Ukranian military forces undergo cold weather training in Siberia, so they are well accustomed to blizzards and the like. Helicopters are gonna have it tough, because most helicopters can't fly in the Russian winter weather.

My airspace is open to anyone, but a strict no-fire rule is in place. Anyone to engage an enemy aircraft in Ukranian Air Space WILL be destroyed. This goes to both sides. I'm not allowing PCU craft into my airspace, as it's too risky. They could easily drop one bomb and de-commision an immense command center. Not worth the risk...

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| November 17, 2009, 8:09 pm
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Quoting Jeffery Smith
Quoting Field Marshal Cliffe
Speaking of oil, which there is always a ridiculous abundance of in Prusso-Egypt(because we use alternative energy for everything but planes), Prusso-Egyptian oil exports will now extend to every country willing to buy except our direct enemies. This will certainly bring in tons more cash for the war effort. The only oil that will be kept is the high-grade stuff used for jet fuel, and not much of that is needed anyway.

So, WHO WANTS SOME BLACK GOLD???
Now that the invading forces are targeting your hydrogen storage facilities, sloar plants, wind plants, and your other energy sources: you are going to need to turn to that oil as a power source very soon if they send more bombing raids in on those stated positions. I would advise not selling it, for you will need to stay functional should their air raids continue.
Hey Jeff can we get a casulty update soon. Thanks.

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| November 17, 2009, 8:09 pm
Quoting Jeffery Smith
Quoting Thomas N
You said in a previous conversation forum that that my planned aircraft movement "never happened". Other members brought up points on how my relatively new air force could not possibly constitute 550 aircraft. That, and other issues with my claims, led you the dismiss that my plan ever happened.
I wasn't talking about your movement of aircraft in this latest update, but rather Indonesias. They did not call off their assault and confirmed it was still under route even after warnings, so they paid the price. Had he listened to the warnings, he could have gotten off safe and not be at all involved in any conflict.

Ah, I misunderstood you, I thought you were talking about me. In that case I will consider sending planes to Egypt, however, if I do, it will be of a much more minimalistic approach, probably less than 20 if at all.
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| November 17, 2009, 8:27 pm
PCU planners have awarded every pilot with the Distiguished Service Cross for the success of their mission and they will be sending the pilots on more missions soon.

All ships in the Atlantic are being ordered to East Russia via the Panama Canal. Total of 10 ships in all.
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| November 17, 2009, 9:27 pm
Quoting Jeffery Smith
Quoting Field Marshal Cliffe
Speaking of oil, which there is always a ridiculous abundance of in Prusso-Egypt(because we use alternative energy for everything but planes), Prusso-Egyptian oil exports will now extend to every country willing to buy except our direct enemies. This will certainly bring in tons more cash for the war effort. The only oil that will be kept is the high-grade stuff used for jet fuel, and not much of that is needed anyway.

So, WHO WANTS SOME BLACK GOLD???
Now that the invading forces are targeting your hydrogen storage facilities, sloar plants, wind plants, and your other energy sources: you are going to need to turn to that oil as a power source very soon if they send more bombing raids in on those stated positions. I would advise not selling it, for you will need to stay functional should their air raids continue.

Ummm... we have enormous solar plants defended by high concentrations of lasers all over the Sahara, as well as the Libyan Desert and Nubian Desert, but not the Arabian Desert(eastern Egypt). They provide enough energy every hour to power the entire planet for a minute(I think that's reasonable...). We even export some of this electricity- although we won't during wartime. Anyway, no aircraft will be able to get through the concentrated laser fire. The lasers are powered by the solar plants directly- therefore they have a large power source, and many lasers can be places, resulting in the high concentration of laser defenses.
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| November 17, 2009, 9:29 pm
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Quoting Field Marshal Cliffe
Ummm... we have enormous solar plants defended by high concentrations of lasers all over the Sahara, as well as the Libyan Desert and Nubian Desert, but not the Arabian Desert(eastern Egypt). They provide enough energy every hour to power the entire planet for a minute(I think that's reasonable...). We even export some of this electricity- although we won't during wartime. Anyway, no aircraft will be able to get through the concentrated laser fire. The lasers are powered by the solar plants directly- therefore they have a large power source, and many lasers can be places, resulting in the high concentration of laser defenses.

Lasers also require concentrating gases; therefore they are terribly inefficient. Plus, many larger cargo aircraft can be mounted with belly-based reflectors that reduces the emission concentration; this is not to say it'll completely dissipate, rather it will just be minuscule in effect. Plus, land-based units can simply sabotage your plants. Also, on your above post, most people won't purchase your oil for the sheer fact that many can by it directly from other unfaltering nations. The threat of enemies attacking one's importing/exporting units is too high to be successful. Plus, your basically boxed in and the opposing armies (i.e. the SSW and Armenia) may just capture the resources.
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| November 17, 2009, 9:52 pm
Quoting Dr. Spontaneous
Lasers also require concentrating gases; therefore they are terribly inefficient. Plus, many larger cargo aircraft can be mounted with belly-based reflectors that reduces the emission concentration; this is not to say it'll completely dissipate, rather it will just be minuscule in effect. Plus, land-based units can simply sabotage your plants. Also, on your above post, most people won't purchase your oil for the sheer fact that many can by it directly from other unfaltering nations. The threat of enemies attacking one's importing/exporting units is too high to be successful. Plus, your basically boxed in and the opposing armies (i.e. the SSW and Armenia) may just capture the resources.

:-(
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| November 17, 2009, 10:17 pm
Quoting Dr. Spontaneous
Lasers also require concentrating gases; therefore they are terribly inefficient. Plus, many larger cargo aircraft can be mounted with belly-based reflectors that reduces the emission concentration; this is not to say it'll completely dissipate, rather it will just be minuscule in effect. Plus, land-based units can simply sabotage your plants. Also, on your above post, most people won't purchase your oil for the sheer fact that many can by it directly from other unfaltering nations. The threat of enemies attacking one's importing/exporting units is too high to be successful. Plus, your basically boxed in and the opposing armies (i.e. the SSW and Armenia) may just capture the resources.

Non-Faltering= Texas URSA Armenia
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| November 17, 2009, 10:48 pm
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Quoting Jack Ford
I do not believe anything I do will alter the outcome of the war. This is intended to drag the war out for a little longer, buying me time to do some heavy damage in East Russia. This battle's going to be a bit crazy, as it's 80 below there. More casualties are likely to be from the weather than enemy fire. Thankfully, Ukranian military forces undergo cold weather training in Siberia, so they are well accustomed to blizzards and the like. Helicopters are gonna have it tough, because most helicopters can't fly in the Russian winter weather.

My airspace is open to anyone, but a strict no-fire rule is in place. Anyone to engage an enemy aircraft in Ukranian Air Space WILL be destroyed. This goes to both sides. I'm not allowing PCU craft into my airspace, as it's too risky. They could easily drop one bomb and de-commision an immense command center. Not worth the risk...


We would do that, too. Smart man you are Jack. We're razors, here at the PCU. And your troops have had cold weather training, but 50,000 of ours have been living in it for two months now. This battle will be very interesting.

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| November 17, 2009, 11:05 pm
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The SSW will be offering to aid Armenia in its campaign by sending the Desert Legionnaires and their equipment if you'll have them. The Legionnaires are very similar to the French Foreign Legion in stylistic training and in the sense of being exposed to harsh conditions; thus they are SOF. They'll be moved from South Africa and into the Egyptian front at your order if you accept the offer.

In other news, the SSW will be refining an occurring pattern of attack which is now being called Guerra de mpetu; Momentum Warfare. This includes the continuous flow of armour and infantry predecessed by air raids and attacks. The air assaults soften the dug-in forces. Then, the first wave of mechanized infantry push through and eliminate the mainstream of surviving enemy forces. Alas, mop-up units finish off any resistance as the first wave presses forward. With this, morale stays high and the lines always shift forward and never falter. Of course, this is all in theory and the practice has yet to be completed and entirely finalized.
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| November 17, 2009, 11:30 pm
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Quoting Awesome-o-saurus The Not-So-Great

We would do that, too. Smart man you are Jack. We're razors, here at the PCU. And your troops have had cold weather training, but 50,000 of ours have been living in it for two months now. This battle will be very interesting.
I find that little of an advantage, as the Russian Army has lived there all their lives... I think the wierdest part is gonna be the facts that our tanks and helicopters, and likely as not jets won't be able to function in that kind of weather. It will freeze everything. Blizzards will likely as not make radar useless... This is gonna be different to say the least.

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| November 17, 2009, 11:52 pm
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Quoting Jack Ford
Quoting Awesome-o-saurus The Not-So-Great

We would do that, too. Smart man you are Jack. We're razors, here at the PCU. And your troops have had cold weather training, but 50,000 of ours have been living in it for two months now. This battle will be very interesting.
I find that little of an advantage, as the Russian Army has lived there all their lives... I think the wierdest part is gonna be the facts that our tanks and helicopters, and likely as not jets won't be able to function in that kind of weather. It will freeze everything. Blizzards will likely as not make radar useless... This is gonna be different to say the least.


I have a feeling this is gonna be a blind fire, WWI style conflict. Very different. Artillery and missiles will be vital. Luckily, we have both.
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| November 18, 2009, 12:18 am
My new fighter/bomber has been completed. http://www.mocpages.com/moc.php/166543
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| November 18, 2009, 5:52 pm
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Quoting Ryan Blackout
im offering a peace-keeping treaty with Cole Atelian.

Accepted I see no point in war with you.
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| November 18, 2009, 8:41 pm
The International Museum of American Heritage has raised 4,000 dollars so far for PCU. 1,000 will be sent to Texas however....
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| November 18, 2009, 8:45 pm
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Quoting Nick Shelton
The International Museum of American Heritage has raised 4,000 dollars so far for PCU. 1,000 will be sent to Texas however....

That's a rather low number. If the rate of profit stays that low you mind as well sell it off, for you'll receive more money that way than at your current stance.
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| November 18, 2009, 9:20 pm
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Quoting Dr. Spontaneous
The SSW will be offering to aid Armenia in its campaign by sending the Desert Legionnaires and their equipment if you'll have them. The Legionnaires are very similar to the French Foreign Legion in stylistic training and in the sense of being exposed to harsh conditions; thus they are SOF. They'll be moved from South Africa and into the Egyptian front at your order if you accept the offer.

Will they be under my direct command?
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| November 18, 2009, 10:24 pm
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Quoting Cole Atelian
Will they be under my direct command?

Yes; but of course there will still be Federal reports on the combat situation from them. Other than that, your word is their direction.
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| November 18, 2009, 10:37 pm
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Quoting Dr. Spontaneous
Yes; but of course there will still be Federal reports on the combat situation from them. Other than that, your word is their direction.

Good. Do you want me to email you my next two stages in this war?
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| November 18, 2009, 10:38 pm
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Quoting Cole Atelian
Good. Do you want me to email you my next two stages in this war?

That'd work well; please do.
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| November 18, 2009, 10:39 pm
Quoting Dr. Spontaneous
That's a rather low number. If the rate of profit stays that low you mind as well sell it off, for you'll receive more money that way than at your current stance.

Funds do not concern us that much. It is just for the benefit of the citizens. Plus, I didn't want to say a million or else get accused of being a n0b...
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| November 18, 2009, 11:09 pm
Quoting Major General O-5 Sam Nineham
PCU is part of URSA, or the RA. So yeah. What state do you control?

I have Utah
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| November 19, 2009, 11:43 am
Quoting Major General O-5 Sam Nineham
Utah and Nevada can ally. Whaddya say? Also, I got an aircraft (fighter jet) coming up soon.

Go on then, who we fighting?
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| November 19, 2009, 11:45 am
We have begun multiple equipment experiments on the northern part(s) of Greenland/Canada to see some effects of the cold temeratures on equipment/personel.

Sand Island Base is now operating at approx 90% efficiancy with construction soon comming to a close, movements of crew/officers has been completed, and most equipment has been shipped.
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| November 19, 2009, 5:18 pm
The Governer of Idaho votes no on the approval of Warren and Slip Knot...
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| November 19, 2009, 7:08 pm
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Last I was aware of, California (Gus) controlled Nevada... I was not aware we lost it. Your requests have been taken into consideration and will be voted upon. The Pacific Union is at a balanced state, things could go either way from here.
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| November 19, 2009, 7:10 pm
The Governator of Idaho is organizing an effort to build a light assault plane. Think of a mini-AC-130...
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| November 19, 2009, 7:14 pm
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Quoting Nick Shelton
The Governator of Idaho is organizing an effort to build a light assault plane. Think of a mini-AC-130...


Read Dr. S's crackdown, we're not allowed to make litle posts like that (or this) any more. At least we won't be, soon. The edit button is gonna be very useful.
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| November 19, 2009, 7:18 pm
Well, I like to announce little small things even though it wasn't fair to the readers. Sorry guys.

Also, I would like to protest against the newest members to the group. They haven't the right number of creations PLUS Nevada is part of PCU and not whatever they are apart of...
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| November 19, 2009, 7:23 pm
Quoting Nick Shelton
Well, I like to announce little small things even though it wasn't fair to the readers. Sorry guys.

Also, I would like to protest against the newest members to the group. They haven't the right number of creations PLUS Nevada is part of PCU and not whatever they are apart of...

plus they're running up a new conversation string full of those "little posts" That Dr. S doesn't like. if they continue they're little conversations, it'll certainly clog the conversation forums far quicker than the rest of us.


In Baltic Union News, we're going to continue building army vehicles and other ground-based equipment. As we seem to be behind in that area.
(See Dr. I combined two comments there to save space!)
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| November 19, 2009, 7:48 pm
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Quoting Thomas N
(See Dr. I combined two comments there to save space!)

That's what I like to see.

In other news, the SSW will be trying to pry the Polish defenders apart via a 3-5 mile opening all the way to Warsaw. That'll be our way-point. After doing so, my forces will branch out and neutralize more so the southern enemy forces. Saboteurs will be sent throughout the entire nation to slow down the Prussian war machine by throwing a wrench in the factory cog.
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| November 19, 2009, 7:52 pm
Quoting Nick Shelton
Well, I like to announce little small things even though it wasn't fair to the readers. Sorry guys.

Also, I would like to protest against the newest members to the group. They haven't the right number of creations PLUS Nevada is part of PCU and not whatever they are apart of...

I would have to agree I have been going through everybody's webpages/MOCs and a few are 1 or 2 MOCs short however, I haven't gone through the newer members yet.

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| November 19, 2009, 9:05 pm
Quoting Major-General A.C. Weagle
I would have to agree I have been going through everybody's webpages/MOCs and a few are 1 or 2 MOCs short however, I haven't gone through the newer members yet.

Yadda yadda yadda. I have a flickr. Please don't charge me with war crimes. Now, it appears that my previous FMs, that I sent just over a week ago have been not really ignored, but perhaps overlooked so errm I am going to refrain from taking any action in this war and enjoy my new East-Coast territory of Philadelphia.
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| November 19, 2009, 10:34 pm
Once again forgive me for this posting. I have just skimmed over and found that there have been multiple numbers of new members joining. I hear talk of laser platforms and something about taking over Nevada. He I am going to become a dictator. If I do not like the things that they claim I will look into spreading World War III to their emerging nations...
(Chuckle in an evil tone)
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| November 19, 2009, 10:42 pm
Quoting xx TediousDestroyer xx
Yadda yadda yadda. I have a flickr. Please don't charge me with war crimes.


You needn't worry I wont do anything about it, I was just pointing out some facts that I knew about the rules or minimum number of RA-CAS-UEN Group MOCs Spontaneous would like to see per person/user.

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| November 20, 2009, 1:50 am
And now for a little bit of news from Prusso-Egypt:

The Poles have designed(and are still modifying) a wonderful new tank, the Super Tank Generation 2. The Prussian Army may soon adopt it as a secondary MBT of sorts to add a lighter tank with an alterable profile and suspension to its arsenal.

The leaders of Prusso-Egypt and I are highly considering a new name. I'm not completely sure what sparked this idea, but here are the possibilities:

1- [Same As Is]

2- Imperial Federation of Prusso-Egypt

3- Federal Union of Prusso-Egypt

4- Federal Technocratic Union of Prusso-Egypt

5- Federal Technocratic Socialist Union of Prusso-Egypt

6- Imperial Technocratic Federation of Prusso-Egypt

7- Imperial Technocratic Socialist Federation of Prusso-Egypt

You can probably see that I needed help deciding... so please vote!!!

About the big long names, I have found that Prusso-Egypt is [fundamentally]a Technocracy, and a Socialist Market Economy. If you don't know what they are, look them up; I really can't explain them very well(although I DO completely know what they are).
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| November 20, 2009, 6:31 pm
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Quoting Major General O-5 Sam Nineham
Michael's email told me Nevada was free. So I took Nevada. As for you, Nick, did you say no just cause you don't like me? Cause if you did, that's hardly fair.


Strange, Gus took it over some weeks ago. Maybe I'll go through the ICF's from October again...
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| November 20, 2009, 6:37 pm
whoa, what just happen here? some kind of arguing?
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| November 20, 2009, 8:53 pm
I'm not sure about the Nevada conflict. I'll give you most of it, land wise, but I want "Groom Lake"... and maybe Reno...
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| November 20, 2009, 10:40 pm
Quoting Major General O-5 Sam Nineham
Michael's email told me Nevada was free. So I took Nevada. As for you, Nick, did you say no just cause you don't like me? Cause if you did, that's hardly fair.

Dude, relax. You two can settle this the easy way..
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| November 20, 2009, 11:16 pm
Yesterday (Nov. 20) I was witnessing the Olympic Flame come to my home town of Lunenburg, N.S. I am not gonna lie, it was one of the most spectacular things I have ever seen in my life but, it started to rain hard and the celebrations was cut short, although I was so angry that I could explode >:( Iwas still excited that I got to see the Torch and Flame and lets not forget, the PARTY(music kinda sucked)!!!!!

Now back on topic;

Since Jeff had pointed out that I am a member or the USRA I am faced with a dissision...

1) Leave the USRA and go about as I please.

2) Pull out of the war against Cliffe and see the outcome from the sidelines.

I loath decision situations....
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| November 21, 2009, 1:50 am
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Due to the economic strains war would bring over Chukotka, the PCU has unanimously agreed to the CAS terms: 7 billion dollars for a safe withdrawal. We begin starting tomorrow morning, in an orderly retreat, taking our fortifications with us if possible (gun turrets, bunker materials, you know, we want to keep everything of ours we can), though they will be the last things out, in case the CAS decides to attack while we wait in line for our boats and planes (unlikely, but you never know).

Where is this army of ours we raised going? Well, it doesn't take much thinking if you're a follower of me at least, but that'll be a secret for now.

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| November 21, 2009, 2:21 am
Yesterday(Nov. 20) The Olympic Flame came to my home town of Lunenburg N.S. I am not gonna lie, it was one of the most unbelievable things I have ever seen! The Festivities were hardcore and there was free pop and hot chocolate(YAY FREE!!) It was quite the something when the Torch Carrier ran through the street and onto the stage with the Torch & Flame in hand and then she tilted the torch onto some sort of pillar thing and the flame burned in/on it, It was incredible!! Then it started to rain a bit, then it reained harder and harder until everyone started to leave because it was pretty much a "Down-poor" I wasn't too pleased about that >:( however, they still set off the fireworks which I was surprised because I thought they would be as wet as I was. It was still pretty cool though!

Back to the subject;

The New Sand Island Base(Sable Island) is nearing completion, with an operational status of approx. 87% and the constrution of the Runways have been completed aswell as the fences to keep the wildlife out of the base so we don't hurt them, plus construction on buildings are about 99% complete we have now set the status of the base as "Fully Operational" and will be put into service effective immediatly.

@ Jeffery: Yes, I am part of the RA however, whether the RA likes it or not I WILL assist Cliffe because, he is one of my greatest Allies and I wouldn't forgive my self if I were to lose such an allie.
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| November 21, 2009, 9:56 am
Quoting Ryan Blackout
Dude, relax. You two can settle this the easy way..

yes... war!!!! I'm kidding, but will not refrain from doing so if need be. I'm not sure of the exacts of the situation at the moment.
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| November 21, 2009, 5:10 pm
Quoting Major-General A.C. Weagle
@ Jeffery: Yes, I am part of the RA however, whether the RA likes it or not I WILL assist Cliffe because, he is one of my greatest Allies and I wouldn't forgive my self if I were to lose such an allie.


But will you assist the RA if we are at war with say... the CAS? They are also supporters of Prusso-Egypt and you'd get pulled into fighting him (though not directly) If you are fighting other RA members through this war in which you are allied with Prusso-Egypt, I'd say it's not good looking to the rest of the RA (namely, the PCU)
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| November 21, 2009, 5:14 pm
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Uh oh. Did Gus have Nevada? Somehow I missed that. Snap. Well Sam, Gus offered most of it minus Whachacall lake and Reno, is that cool with you? Or there are still a few other states open..


In other news: Not much has been heard from Alaska in the past four weeks, as the Chief of Staff was attending arctic flight training in Galena Air Force Base. I have, however, kept in touch here and there with a few chaps, and understand that Prusso-Egypt has been swept back to their original borders in Europe, while East Russia is moving towards expelling the PCU from the Chakotka. I spoke with the leader of Ukraine, who agreed a cease-fire would be to both of our benefits (winter wars in Siberian williwaws are simply miserable and impractical). If the peace treaty does not pass (and it looks like it will, since the CAS and PCU have both agreed to it), the RA is prepared to offer full support to the PCU.

If it is passed, we would be interested in negotiating with the SSW and PCU on assisting in the European and African theatres.


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| November 21, 2009, 6:11 pm
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Nice to hear from you, Micheal. Hope you had fun at your flight school.

Anyhow, the SSW welcomes you with full arms in regards to aid. About one fourth of Poland has been taken (give or take) and thus another push will be organized to conquer the rest; it'd be great to have some new weight alongside us.
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| November 21, 2009, 6:18 pm
Quoting Major-General A.C. Weagle
Yesterday (Nov. 20) I was witnessing the Olympic Flame come to my home town of Lunenburg, N.S. I am not gonna lie, it was one of the most spectacular things I have ever seen in my life but, it started to rain hard and the celebrations was cut short, although I was so angry that I could explode >:( Iwas still excited that I got to see the Torch and Flame and lets not forget, the PARTY(music kinda sucked)!!!!!

Now back on topic;

Since Jeff had pointed out that I am a member or the USRA I am faced with a dissision...

1) Leave the USRA and go about as I please.

2) Pull out of the war against Cliffe and see the outcome from the sidelines.

I loath decision situations....

Honestly, good General, the USRA doesn't need you, nor do you necessarily need it. The USRA grows more powerful every day with each state that joins their ranks. I think you are best helping out me and taking over the rest of Canada. It and I both need you...
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| November 21, 2009, 7:01 pm
Quoting Awesome-o-saurus The Not-So-Great
Where is this army of ours we raised going? Well, it doesn't take much thinking if you're a follower of me at least, but that'll be a secret for now.

DON'T GET ANY FUNNY IDEAS >:(
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| November 21, 2009, 7:08 pm
Quoting Michael Ford
If it is passed, we would be interested in negotiating with the SSW and PCU on assisting in the European and African theatres.


MICHEAL??? NOT YOU TOO!!!!

I have enough headaches dealing with the SSW and Armenia alone. Please, don't exterminate me like an annoying clonetard... I have fought and worked hard to establish and preserve my beloved country. It will nearly bring me to tears to see it all helplessly crushed by the most good and honest people of the world.
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| November 21, 2009, 7:17 pm
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Quoting Michael Ford
If it is passed, we would be interested in negotiating with the SSW and PCU on assisting in the European and African theatres.

Hey Michael if you want to we could use your help in our invasion of africa.
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| November 21, 2009, 7:20 pm
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Quoting Dr. Spontaneous
Nice to hear from you, Micheal. Hope you had fun at your flight school.

Anyhow, the SSW welcomes you with full arms in regards to aid. About one fourth of Poland has been taken (give or take) and thus another push will be organized to conquer the rest; it'd be great to have some new weight alongside us.


Looking forward to fighting alongside you once more.

I don't think we should exterminate Prusso-Egypt completely though.

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| November 21, 2009, 7:21 pm
Quoting Michael Ford
I don't think we should exterminate Prusso-Egypt completely though.

*wipes sweat from forehead*
WHEW... thank Horus...
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| November 21, 2009, 7:24 pm
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@ Armenia: We'd be glad for a chance to grab some land in Africa. At present we have unmanned probes of various sorts looking through the swamp in the Congo/Uganda area. It's the ultimate place for a primordial guerilla battle...if we could keep the mosquitoes away. Good place to fall back to though.

What are your cheif objectives?
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| November 21, 2009, 7:34 pm
Quoting Michael Ford

Looking forward to fighting alongside you once more.

I don't think we should exterminate Prusso-Egypt completely though.

We need more conflict moderators.
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| November 21, 2009, 7:51 pm
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Quoting xx TediousDestroyer xx
We need more conflict moderators.


Agreed. Jack isn't involved in the Prusso-Egypt war...maybe he can give Jeff a hand.
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| November 21, 2009, 8:37 pm
I have completed construction of two new vehicles. http://www.mocpages.com/moc.php/167193, and http://www.mocpages.com/moc.php/167188.
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| November 21, 2009, 8:49 pm
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Map is up:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/ra_brickforce/

Or on my recruiting page:

http://www.mocpages.com/moc.php/39893
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| November 21, 2009, 8:50 pm
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Quoting Michael Ford

Looking forward to fighting alongside you once more.

I don't think we should exterminate Prusso-Egypt completely though.

Agreed. I was going to allow his Baltic territories to stay thriving and possibly the northeastern portion of Poland depending on my casualty rate.
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| November 21, 2009, 9:07 pm
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Quoting Michael Ford
Map is up:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/ra_brickforce/

Or on my recruiting page:

http://www.mocpages.com/moc.php/39893

Just a couple of nitpicks. 1. I don't control Iraq or Jordan and I gave New Zealand.
2. I now control all of Bulgaria
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| November 21, 2009, 9:38 pm
Here are some Baltic Union news updates.

I have transferred entire control over the Baltic Navy to Maxime MaxSamAlex. Any naval decisions from now on will be his jurisdiction.

Additionally, I have come to realize that with the SSW pushing in just to my south, I am literally cut off from the rest of Prussia. Any attempt at attack on his massive army by my fledgling forces would be foolhardy, so I've decided to stay out of this one. All equipment will be kept within Baltic Union boundaries to avoid provocation.
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| November 21, 2009, 10:14 pm
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