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See guys! I AM here. Sorry I haven't been as social as I'd like to be recently, but like I've said, I am here doing my moderator duties keeping mocpages running as smoothly as possible.

With that said, have at us! Remember, "clone brands" ARE allowed. Please use this thread to report non Lego related posts. Thanks!
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| December 27, 2010, 11:57 pm
A what should I build next page: http://www.mocpages.com/moc.php/244690


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| December 31, 2010, 5:25 pm
http://mocpages.com/moc.php/221789

for some reason, instead of building bionicles or making something with the ones he has, he just posts a pic of something not lego, to say goodbye to lego bioncle.
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| December 31, 2010, 5:54 pm
It's lego, but I don't think it's allowed: http://mocpages.com/moc.php/244897

This isn't:
http://mocpages.com/moc.php/244861
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| January 1, 2011, 9:40 pm
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Quoting Areetsa C
It's lego, but I don't think it's allowed: http://mocpages.com/moc.php/244897

This isn't:
http://mocpages.com/moc.php/244861


First one is, second one isn't. Thanks!

And got the others as well, thanks guys!
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| January 2, 2011, 2:10 am
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sorry I'm relatively new here and got a little confused by the opening post.

Are we reporting NON-LEGO posts, as in stuff that clearly IS NOT bricks, or Knock-off lego, stuff that is clearly Megoblocks, BTR, Bestlock, etc.

Since you state "Clones ARE allowed" the purpose of the thread seemed confusing.
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| January 11, 2011, 6:48 am
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Quoting andros tempest
sorry I'm relatively new here and got a little confused by the opening post.

Are we reporting NON-LEGO posts, as in stuff that clearly IS NOT bricks, or Knock-off lego, stuff that is clearly Megoblocks, BTR, Bestlock, etc.

Since you state "Clones ARE allowed" the purpose of the thread seemed confusing.


Yeah, the title of the thread is a bit confusing, since Megabloks and the like aren't Lego, but still allowed. The point of this thread, however, is to blow the whistle on pages that aren't allowed...post of drawings, people, game and movie screen captures, etc.. By doing this it helps to keep MOCpages focused on what it's really about, and keep non-related posts from getting out of control.



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| January 15, 2011, 7:07 am
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Quoting Mark Kelso

Yeah, the title of the thread is a bit confusing, since Megabloks and the like aren't Lego, but still allowed. The point of this thread, however, is to blow the whistle on pages that aren't allowed...post of drawings, people, game and movie screen captures, etc.. By doing this it helps to keep MOCpages focused on what it's really about, and keep non-related posts from getting out of control.



I assumed that was the case, but thought I'd just check before I posted anything off topic by accident.
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| January 16, 2011, 6:32 pm
Here's an old one. http://www.mocpages.com/moc.php/122548
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| January 19, 2011, 2:56 am
Quoting Mark Kelso

Yeah, the title of the thread is a bit confusing, since Megabloks and the like aren't Lego, but still allowed. The point of this thread, however, is to blow the whistle on pages that aren't allowed...post of drawings, people, game and movie screen captures, etc.. By doing this it helps to keep MOCpages focused on what it's really about, and keep non-related posts from getting out of control.



So... Why aren't drawings of LEGO things allowed?
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| January 20, 2011, 11:31 pm
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Quoting Bob the inconceivably invincible
So... Why aren't drawings of LEGO things allowed?

presumably because this is a website for sharing LEGO Creations. If you want to share other forms of art work there are plenty of other websites you can use.
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| January 21, 2011, 6:39 am
Quoting andros tempest
presumably because this is a website for sharing LEGO Creations. If you want to share other forms of art work there are plenty of other websites you can use.

OK, I understand.
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| January 21, 2011, 8:35 am
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Quoting Bob the inconceivably invincible
So... Why aren't drawings of LEGO things allowed?


Drawings of Lego are really close to what we WOULD allow. But the fact is, we've got to draw the line (no pun intended) somewhere, and drawings and paintings of Lego are just one step too far away from the purpose of our site, which is focused on building.

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| January 21, 2011, 9:10 am
Quoting Mark Kelso

Drawings of Lego are really close to what we WOULD allow. But the fact is, we've got to draw the line (no pun intended) somewhere, and drawings and paintings of Lego are just one step too far away from the purpose of our site, which is focused on building.
OK, I understand.

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| January 21, 2011, 9:18 am
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Got the first ones. Decals are allowed. Thanks!
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| January 21, 2011, 10:54 pm
Heres a drawing
http://mocpages.com/moc.php/226575
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| January 22, 2011, 8:48 pm
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Quoting Evan Harder
this is just creepy...
http://www.mocpages.com/group.php/




Groups we can't do anything about... yet.

The homepage one I got though. Oh, and I deleted your comment with the link to that "creepy" group just because of the link.

Thanks for the help!
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| January 22, 2011, 11:17 pm
chris can i have a drawing if i have a vignette in it
im not getting banned im i
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| January 22, 2011, 11:58 pm
Quoting Mandalorian Commander Charty Fett
chris can i have a drawing if i have a vignette in it
im not getting banned im i

As long as the main feature is your vignette your good. I included a drawing with one of my creations and I've seen others add concept art with their creations.
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| January 23, 2011, 12:50 am
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Quoting Mandalorian Commander Charty Fett
chris can i have a drawing if i have a vignette in it
im not getting banned im i


My best advice is to just not post drawings at all. No, you won't get banned (we're not ban happy over here) but we will delete your page.

There's plenty of sites where you can share your drawings. This site is for Lego creations.

Thanks for asking though. Good luck!
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| January 23, 2011, 11:36 pm
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Quoting BobaFett 2
Are instructions that are drawn out allowed? http://www.mocpages.com/moc.php/144283 is too good to get rid of


This one is a very fine line actually. I'm gonna say that yes, it's allowed. It's kinda like posting LDD instructions but without having access to LDD.
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| January 23, 2011, 11:44 pm
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just a suggestion to everyone thinking that they are being picked on for not being able to post artwork inspired by LEGOs. There is a large flickr community devoted to LEGO, and Flickr allow any image (that belongs to you) to be posted. I myself use it to post all my hand draw and CG artwork.

if it is related to a MOC you have created, it is possible to post a link to your MOC in the comments section. So you can still share the image, just not make it the main feature here.

Photobucket and DeviantArt also offer the same services, however I would be careful as photobucket has had issues with hackers in the past.

some of the images that have been reported here appear to be place holders, with the intentions of posting the completed work later. I'd suggest NOT doing this. Place holders are annoying, it is much better to only post your MOC once it is complete, and or, use work in progress images.

that way you don't break the rules, and can get some feed back on your progress.
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| January 24, 2011, 6:48 am
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Quoting andros tempest
just a suggestion to everyone thinking that they are being picked on for not being able to post artwork inspired by LEGOs. There is a large flickr community devoted to LEGO, and Flickr allow any image (that belongs to you) to be posted. I myself use it to post all my hand draw and CG artwork.

if it is related to a MOC you have created, it is possible to post a link to your MOC in the comments section. So you can still share the image, just not make it the main feature here.

Photobucket and DeviantArt also offer the same services, however I would be careful as photobucket has had issues with hackers in the past.

some of the images that have been reported here appear to be place holders, with the intentions of posting the completed work later. I'd suggest NOT doing this. Place holders are annoying, it is much better to only post your MOC once it is complete, and or, use work in progress images.

that way you don't break the rules, and can get some feed back on your progress.


Great suggestion.

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| January 24, 2011, 7:22 am
http://mocpages.com/moc.php/249174 is stolen.
Here's the proof: http://mocpages.com/moc.php/15911

This other one is non-lego: http://mocpages.com/moc.php/249187
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| January 26, 2011, 12:24 am
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Quoting BobaFett 2
Are instructions that are drawn out allowed? http://www.mocpages.com/moc.php/144283 is too good to get rid of

Actually I think this is pretty cool. It's in the spirit of MOCpages, which is all about sharing your LEGO creations and your ideas.
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| January 26, 2011, 4:21 am
I can have a drawing on my home page, right?

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| January 26, 2011, 4:31 am
http://mocpages.com/moc.php/249375 is probably not his work...

Are brickarms collections allowed http://mocpages.com/moc.php/249347 ?
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| January 26, 2011, 4:58 pm
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Quoting Athanasios Lazarou
I can have a drawing on my home page, right?


Not a problem. Drawings are even okay on regular posts, but we would just like to see them there only if they pertain to a build that's also presented.

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| January 26, 2011, 7:35 pm
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Quoting BobaFett 2
Are brickarms collections allowed http://mocpages.com/moc.php/249347 ?


Yep. Not real exciting, but certainly permitted. ;)

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| January 26, 2011, 7:36 pm
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Quoting Areetsa C
http://mocpages.com/moc.php/249174 is stolen.
Here's the proof: http://mocpages.com/moc.php/15911

This other one is non-lego: http://mocpages.com/moc.php/249187


Just for clarification, because he used someone else's photograph this broke the rules, but if he had literally copied the design and taken his own photograph that would not.
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| February 1, 2011, 9:37 am
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Quoting andros tempest

Just for clarification, because he used someone else's photograph this broke the rules, but if he had literally copied the design and taken his own photograph that would not.


I didn't see this particular post that you're refering to (I'm assuming Chris tackled that one), but here's my take on the general principle...

If someone uses another's build for "inspiration" and tries to duplicate what they've done, without providing a link or giving credit, it gets into a grey area regarding our rules. We still consider it a swipe, but not as direct or as complete as literally using someone else's images.

In my book, however, it's still a swipe, and any time I run into that, I'll contact the builder directly. Their reaction has a lot to do with whether the creation stays or gets deleted. If there are subtle differences, I might let it go, if it's a direct copy and the builder refuses to give credit, the post will be deleted and their name added to a list that Chris and I keep for Sean.

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| February 1, 2011, 3:51 pm
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Quoting Mark Kelso

I didn't see this particular post that you're refering to (I'm assuming Chris tackled that one), but here's my take on the general principle...

If someone uses another's build for "inspiration" and tries to duplicate what they've done, without providing a link or giving credit, it gets into a grey area regarding our rules. We still consider it a swipe, but not as direct or as complete as literally using someone else's images.

In my book, however, it's still a swipe, and any time I run into that, I'll contact the builder directly. Their reaction has a lot to do with whether the creation stays or gets deleted. If there are subtle differences, I might let it go, if it's a direct copy and the builder refuses to give credit, the post will be deleted and their name added to a list that Chris and I keep for Sean.

not to belabour the point, but this does appear to contradict some of the information being quoted in the MOC theft thread. So "Swipes" can get you banned after all, but only when those involved:

a. refuse to add credit when challenged.
b. do so regularly.
c. the person they have swiped from asks for it to go further.


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| February 2, 2011, 6:27 am
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Quoting andros tempest
not to belabour the point, but this does appear to contradict some of the information being quoted in the MOC theft thread. So "Swipes" can get you banned after all, but only when those involved:

a. refuse to add credit when challenged.
b. do so regularly.
c. the person they have swiped from asks for it to go further.



Yeah, I see what you mean. What I mentioned above has always been my take on it. It seems Chris is saying that Sean is okay with someone copying another's design without giving credit.

If that's the case, then I'm wrong in the matter. Although, I would personally consider it a "swipe," if Sean considers it okay, then it's his rules I support.

I'll contact him directly just to be sure that's his stance on the matter. For the time being, I'd go with what Chris maintains, however.

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| February 2, 2011, 7:40 am
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Okay, got word back. Here's the bottom line...

"Inspired" or "emulated" builds that don't give proper credit might be considered poor etiquette, but are not directly in violation of Sean's rules.

There are times when builders have been belligerent or malicious in such posts, however, and under those circumstances, they've been reprimanded and/or banned. (which is what I was thinking of when mentioning deletions above).


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| February 2, 2011, 9:19 am
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Quoting Mark Kelso
Okay, got word back. Here's the bottom line...

"Inspired" or "emulated" builds that don't give proper credit might be considered poor etiquette, but are not directly in violation of Sean's rules.

There are times when builders have been belligerent or malicious in such posts, however, and under those circumstances, they've been reprimanded and/or banned. (which is what I was thinking of when mentioning deletions above).


that sounds more like what was being said in the theft thread. Thanks for checking into that.

So really copying isn't an issue, just so long as it isn't being done maliciously. I've seen quite a lot of "innocent" homages, that probably "should" have put a credit, but haven't.

The best one I ever saw was someone who copied one of my transformers and said "I can't remember who it was, but it's copied". I just laughed and forgot about it, at least he tried.
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| February 2, 2011, 10:27 am
Quoting Mark Kelso

Yeah, I see what you mean. What I mentioned above has always been my take on it. It seems Chris is saying that Sean is okay with someone copying another's design without giving credit.

If that's the case, then I'm wrong in the matter. Although, I would personally consider it a "swipe," if Sean considers it okay, then it's his rules I support.

I'll contact him directly just to be sure that's his stance on the matter. For the time being, I'd go with what Chris maintains, however.

What if you make something remarkably similar to something else, but you didn't even know that that 'something else' existed?
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| February 2, 2011, 10:35 am
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Quoting Leon Powalski
What if you make something remarkably similar to something else, but you didn't even know that that 'something else' existed?


It happens from time to time, and is certainly not a problem. Sometime's I'll get an idea for a creation, and only realize much late that the reason why it kept sticking in my mind was that I'd actually SEEN it from someone else ages ago.


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