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MASSIVE HACKER ALERT!!!
PLEASE READ JPfan65 Studios post "MASSIVE HACKER ALERT!" A man by the name of Simon Ashton (SIMON25@HOTMAIL.CO.UK) has been e-mailing people. DO NOT OPEN THE E-MAIL IF YOU GET IT, (THE E-MAIL WILL MOST LIKELY BE TITLED "Mail Server Report"). IF YOU DO, HE WILL HAVE ACCESS TO PASSWORDS AND OTHER INFO. YOU WILL LOSE EVERYTHING ON YOUR COMPUTER. THIS IS FOR REAL, I AM NOT KIDDING.
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| December 7, 2011, 12:26 am
Okay, I did some research, and found that this is most likely a hoax to get you to forward a message, but to be on the safe side, if you do get an e-mail from him, don't open it.
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| December 7, 2011, 12:39 am
Thanks for warning me but those he send messages in gmail too or just hotmail? If he does in gmail, I will delete the message.
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| December 7, 2011, 4:00 am
Considering JPfan65 Studios recently quit because of a few people on here (I'm not picking sides), he's probably just trying to scare the residents of Mocpages with a hoax.

P.S. Oh, great. Now Oliver King is all worked up.
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| December 7, 2011, 7:22 am
To the person before Stormbringer. IT IS FAKE.

Stormbringer. JP is actually pretty nice, plus he didn't know that it was a hoax.
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| December 7, 2011, 8:29 am
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ok I'm getting confused (mostly by oliver's bizarre request/warning).

Can someone reply with SHORT answers to the following questions.

1. Where did the information ACTUALLY come from - not who redirected it, but who originally reported this. Was it Norton, Was it Microsoft?

2. Who is distributing this information, how are they getting people's email addresses?


Personally I think it is best if people:

a. do not share your email address in public forums, mocs, group discussions.

b. delete any emails from people you do not know.

c. treat with suspicion anything that is typed in CAPITAL LETTERS

I've never heard of Microsoft putting out this kind of information via email before, nor Norton (I used to have Norton antivirus for 5 years and the only emails I got were to tell me my subscription was due for renewal). Seriously I'd be very suspicious if someone said "It's definitely true Microsoft told me".

I've already read this "circular" on DeviantArt myself and while the virus possibly does exist, I think the source of the information WASN'T an email from Norton or Microsoft but an article on their website or an automated update to one of their products.

Definitely stay vigilant for stuff via email you don't trust. That is wise advice regardless.
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| December 7, 2011, 8:46 am
OMG, must be careful! Well, I dont do e-mail, my parents do all that, thanks for the warning!
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| December 7, 2011, 10:01 am
Rule of thumb: if Oliver King thinks it's real, it probably isn't.

If the resident bionikiddies have their undies in a bunch over it, it's almost certainly fake.


Simply opening an email won't infect your computer with a virus. Opening an attachment might.

If you don't give your password to strange people, you won't get "hacked".



If you DO get "hacked" chances are you're not clever enough to be allowed on the internet in the first place, so no harm done.


Alternately, you could just get an antivirus like Avast that scans programs as they start. First hint of suspicious behaviour from a program, Avast'll pause it and ask you what to do.
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| December 8, 2011, 7:26 pm
Quoting Areetsa C

If you DO get "hacked" chances are you're not clever enough to be allowed on the internet in the first place, so no harm done.


Hee hee
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| December 8, 2011, 7:34 pm
Quoting Areetsa C
Rule of thumb: if Oliver King thinks it's real, it probably isn't.

If the resident bionikiddies have their undies in a bunch over it, it's almost certainly fake.


Simply opening an email won't infect your computer with a virus. Opening an attachment might.

If you don't give your password to strange people, you won't get "hacked".



If you DO get "hacked" chances are you're not clever enough to be allowed on the internet in the first place, so no harm done.


Alternately, you could just get an antivirus like Avast that scans programs as they start. First hint of suspicious behaviour from a program, Avast'll pause it and ask you what to do.

Can you go 1 comment without insulting someone? Not likely but still.
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| December 8, 2011, 7:42 pm
Quoting JPfan65 Studios

Not Likely? Try Never....

I'm glad you agree
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| December 8, 2011, 9:52 pm
Quoting JPfan65 Studios

=,(

Its not fair is it?
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| December 8, 2011, 10:01 pm
Quoting Oliver King
did he hack you :O


No, Oliver, no one's getting hacked.
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| December 8, 2011, 10:03 pm
Quoting Oliver King
Da what?

Read the rest first
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| December 8, 2011, 10:05 pm
Quoting Wheeljack 8824
Can you go 1 comment without insulting someone? Not likely but still.

what Areetsa says is true though, no denying it. It's also pretty funny, I don't see why you all take it so seriously, just accept the humor and laugh.... Although I guess part of the humor is your reactions.

"The truth that hurts."
Areetsa being true to his motto.
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| December 8, 2011, 10:11 pm
Quoting Danny Morgan
what Areetsa says is true though, no denying it. It's also pretty funny, I don't see why you all take it so seriously, just accept the humor and laugh.... Although I guess part of the humor is your reactions.

"The truth that hurts."
Areetsa being true to his motto.

No it's just stereotypically... Well messed up. Quite often he IS putting the truth out there but sometimes he's just being a stereotypical jerk. Just my opinion.

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| December 8, 2011, 10:25 pm
Quoting Wheeljack 8824
Can you go 1 comment without insulting someone? Not likely but still.

I'll answer for him: No.
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| December 8, 2011, 11:27 pm
Quoting Areetsa C
Rule of thumb: if Oliver King thinks it's real, it probably isn't.

If the resident bionikiddies have their undies in a bunch over it, it's almost certainly fake.


Simply opening an email won't infect your computer with a virus. Opening an attachment might.

If you don't give your password to strange people, you won't get "hacked".



If you DO get "hacked" chances are you're not clever enough to be allowed on the internet in the first place, so no harm done.


Alternately, you could just get an antivirus like Avast that scans programs as they start. First hint of suspicious behaviour from a program, Avast'll pause it and ask you what to do.
Actually, I think you're wrong. I got something trying to get a virus on my computing just from viewing an image. I was searching Google images (I had no other tabs up) and suddenly this message pops up, I don't remember exactly what it said, but it was something along the lines of 'You're computer is in danger from a virus!' I figured that since it was not from my antivirus that it was a scam that would give me a virus if I clicked it. Fortunately, I didn't.

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| December 8, 2011, 11:31 pm
Quoting Bob the inconceivably invincible
Quoting Areetsa C
Rule of thumb: if Oliver King thinks it's real, it probably isn't.

If the resident bionikiddies have their undies in a bunch over it, it's almost certainly fake.


Simply opening an email won't infect your computer with a virus. Opening an attachment might.

If you don't give your password to strange people, you won't get "hacked".



If you DO get "hacked" chances are you're not clever enough to be allowed on the internet in the first place, so no harm done.


Alternately, you could just get an antivirus like Avast that scans programs as they start. First hint of suspicious behaviour from a program, Avast'll pause it and ask you what to do.
Actually, I think you're wrong. I got something trying to get a virus on my computing just from viewing an image. I was searching Google images (I had no other tabs up) and suddenly this message pops up, I don't remember exactly what it said, but it was something along the lines of 'You're computer is in danger from a virus!' I figured that since it was not from my antivirus that it was a scam that would give me a virus if I clicked it. Fortunately, I didn't.

That EXACT same thing happened to me a while back! It kinda took over the screen. Thank god for Windows Task Manager.
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| December 8, 2011, 11:36 pm
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Quoting Areetsa C
Rule of thumb: if Oliver King thinks it's real, it probably isn't.


Actual rule of thumb: if oliver king writes a warning ignore it. don't comment, don't acknowledge it, as to do so invites madness.

Quoting Areetsa C
If the resident bionikiddies have their undies in a bunch over it, it's almost certainly fake.


maybe, more likely it's some emo attention seeking game of "who can get the most likes". Again best ignored.

Quoting Areetsa C
Simply opening an email won't infect your computer with a virus. Opening an attachment might.


opening attachments to emails will most definitely provide access for trojans. however some webpages have malicious script. Hence the reason why pop-ups are a great source of viruses.

rule of thumb, unless you are accessing video poker websites or porn you probably are fairly safe, so long as you ignore fisching emails and spam.

Quoting Areetsa C
If you don't give your password to strange people, you won't get "hacked".




actually untrue, hacking can also be the result of spyware present on your computer sharing your passwords to third parties, and it can also be individuals attempting to access your account by randomly attempting passwords. I've learned of some deviantArt accounts where people have "guessed" someone else's password and "done stuff" pretending to be that person. So long as your password isn't something obvious (like your user id or 12345) you should be fairly safe. But DO change it regularly just in case.

Quoting Areetsa C
If you DO get "hacked" chances are you're not clever enough to be allowed on the internet in the first place, so no harm done.



I'd challenge that that isn't actually true. yes someone who has a password of 12345 or shares their password is too stupid to be allowed on the net. however if your password has been cracked using spyware that isn't really your fault.

Quoting Areetsa C
Alternately, you could just get an antivirus like Avast that scans programs as they start. First hint of suspicious behaviour from a program, Avast'll pause it and ask you what to do.


I'd add that you also need a decent firewall and some anti-spyware software as well. free ones include AVG, Avira, Superantispyware and Malawarebytes.

NEVER rely on windows defender on its own, it isn't as up to date as dedicated anti-virus software and lets a lot of stuff through that other anti-virus software doesn't.

I'd also recommend activating the pop-up blocker in your browser, pop-ups are a common source of spyware and trojans.



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| December 9, 2011, 6:35 am
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I see the conversation has gone off topic (again).

initial topic - hackers at work on the net, viruses at work on the net - internet security.

hijacked conversations - anger issues, bionicle builders and their dramas, religion, what constitutes an idiot, childishness, how some members don't read more than a single post before they reply in a topic.

Sorry but could someone PLEASE lock this thread.
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| December 9, 2011, 8:29 am
Mods please please lock this (is it OK to ask for that?)

I'm not sure that any arguments/self deprecating monologues like this have a place in MOCpages Help.

Can comments be deleted too?

People; if you must write a load of guff that no-one understands except the people that you're arguing with, please don't do it in a group designed for ALL users to get help.

Most people reading this have no idea what's going on (including me), and nor do we care.

Keep MOCpages Help about getting Help on MOCpages.
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| December 9, 2011, 9:23 am
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Quoting Ape Fight
Mods please please lock this (is it OK to ask for that?)

I'm not sure that any arguments/self deprecating monologues like this have a place in MOCpages Help.

Can comments be deleted too?

People; if you must write a load of guff that no-one understands except the people that you're arguing with, please don't do it in a group designed for ALL users to get help.

Most people reading this have no idea what's going on (including me), and nor do we care.

Keep MOCpages Help about getting Help on MOCpages.

seconded
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| December 9, 2011, 10:55 am
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Quoting JPfan65 Studios
Okay...I'm Just Going To Put This Out There In The Most Mature & Serious Way I Can, And Let Me Tell You, I Regret Saying This In Every Way, Because I Feel Like I'm Submitting To All Of You & Proving That Your Right, Which I Will Explain Later, But...I'm Sorry...Not Just For This & All My Other Failures In My Mocing Career & Not Being As Perfect As Everyone Else & For My "Drama", But For My Breakout Of Intentional Anger Towards People I Despise & Think There All That Or Whatever My Anger (Which I Can Control....80% Of The Time) Makes Me Angry At...Now, I Have No Idea Why People This I Leave For Publicity & All That Other Stuff, But I Use It To How Do I Say This....To Relax &, Yes, Meditate (Which I Use Something Smilar To What Master Shifu Used In Kung Fu Panda, Which Is Finding A Quiet Place, Sitting Down & Repeatedly Saying "Inner Peace" And Slowly Breathing & Moving My Hands Down Slowly While Doing So) ...Now I Know What Your Thinking.."You Meditate Yet You Have Anger Issues?!" Well Yes, I Do, Problem? Anyways...Not Only Is That A Problem...But I Am Currently Going Throught A Terrifying (For Me At Least) Thoguht...Death....I Am An Athiest Before That Terrible Little Thought Popped Into My Head....Now I Don't Know What To Belive...Have You Heard Of Such A Silly Thing...A Person Who Loves & Protects Life & Nature (Animals & Plants) ...Scared Of One Of The Most Important Parts Of Life? Death....And Please Will Nobody Say "Well, Turn To A God" The Truth Is I'm Scared To...What If I Pick A Religion & It's The "Wrong One" So To Speak & What If Religion Isn't True (Which I Truthfully Think) & It's Darkness...Forever...No Offense Is Intended To Religious Builders BTW....Now Onto The Fnall Thing I Wanted To Say....Do I Really Deserve An Account...Sure Austin Durick I Belive Saw What I Wrote On Neatchat, Which I Didn't Mean At All....Okay Maybe A Little Bit...And To Ze Bionicle Mocist...I Don't Deserve A Group Like Yourself...Raviel, 12lego, Quake, And To Everyone Else....I'm A Idiot.....Now...There...Happy? All In All I'm Sorry...Now Go On...Blame Me & Judge Me In Every Way You Can..I Truthfully Insit..."United We Stand...Divided We Fall" .....

and what exactly has THIS to do with being hacked?

seriously if you have axes to grind, grind them in a private group and NOT here.

I appreciate you are having a crisis, and I empathise, but there is a place and time to have it.

Here is not that place.
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| December 9, 2011, 10:56 am
Quoting andros tempest
seconded

thirded
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| December 9, 2011, 1:46 pm
Quoting David Cook
thirded

Fourthed.
This is really starting to get out of hand.
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| December 9, 2011, 1:53 pm
Quoting Ru Corder
Fourthed.
This is really starting to get out of hand.

This is turning into a religious debate. Fifthed
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| December 9, 2011, 4:36 pm
Quoting Danny Morgan
This is turning into a religious debate. Fifthed

Sixithed.This is getting so ridicious.>.>
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| December 9, 2011, 4:40 pm
Quoting Raviel Ze MOCist!
Quoting Danny Morgan
This is turning into a religious debate. Fifthed

Sixith.This is getting so ridicious.>.>

Seventhed (yay lucky number)

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| December 9, 2011, 4:49 pm
 Group moderator 
no active one, what is happening is that someone is sending out emails, the contents of which are a virus which hijacks the computer of whoever opens them. Most likely spyware or a worm from the description.

technically that isn't hacking it's hijacking, but the effect is the same.

look best thing anyone can do is protect their password by changing it regularly, and if you receive emails and don't know who sent them report them as spam and delete them without opening the contents.

There really isn't any need to debate this further.

as for the discussion about religion - please take that to one of the MANY private groups which discuss religion and not in the help group.
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| December 9, 2011, 5:11 pm
Quoting Bob the inconceivably invincible
Quoting JPfan65 Studios
...Scared Of One Of The Most Important Parts Of Life? Death....And Please Will Nobody Say "Well, Turn To A God" The Truth Is I'm Scared To...What If I Pick A Religion & It's The "Wrong One" So To Speak & What If Religion Isn't True (Which I Truthfully Think) & It's Darkness
JP, if religion isn't true, there is nothing after life, whether you believe it or not. But if you believe it and it's not true, it can give you hope to overcome things like this. If you believe it and it is true, then most religions give you an after-death reward, but if you don't believe it and it's true, then there will be an after-death punishment. Being wrong about being religious doesn't have a punishment, it won't affect your scientific views and you can (and should) keep you views about loving and protecting nature. I know there are some who will tell you that you can't believe in God and believe in life evolving over 3.7 billion years to its present state. They're wrong, you can and I do.
Even if no one else loves you, Jesus will always love you. Even if no one else forgives you, Jesus will forgive you. You need only ask Him.

Seriously? Since when has Mocpages turned into a religious out-reach site? Leave that stuff out. I'm not going out against people's beliefs, however I am against people doing it on here and starting meaningless gibbering debates about who's right. Nothing but drama.
Why don't you guys build with Lego, instead of this nonsense?
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| December 9, 2011, 6:37 pm
Quoting Sam "The legoman" Knavel
Same with me, MOCpages has really been hurt by this religious blabbering, the first amendment seems to be the most denied on MOCpages, argument done.

OK, maybe you don't think it's right, but it IN NO WAY breaks your constitutional rights.
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| December 9, 2011, 6:56 pm
Quoting Sam "The legoman" Knavel
For the billionth time, its not my rights, its most people's rights to express themselves, it feels like it shunned, argument over, please don't respond or reply to this.

I didn't want to get in a debate either. Discussion closed.
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| December 9, 2011, 7:04 pm
That's not good. I just hope he's e-mailing it to yahoo. Then i'm safe. Even though I have an account there, I can't get in, so I can't check the e-mails. Wait, that's a good thing if this is happenng. HA!
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| December 9, 2011, 9:20 pm
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