Quoting Oliver King
woops he did but he sometimes bullies me and once he removed me from my own group
Okay, Im not bullying you.
I told you once to stay on topic in the ExTreme TFOLs group, and then I accidentally linked one of your MOCs into that group. (I had three MOC pages open at once, so it I didn't pay attention to which one was mine.)
I had since deleted the comment with your MOC in it, and I apologized. Permalink
Quoting Oliver King
but you made me removed from my group ages ago
i cant get over it and you bully me sometimes like i think you are the guy in my neat chat that spams my neat chat and cusses it called olivers n.1 fan
I removed you from one of my groups ages ago for breaking rules.
For the other part, which I could hardly read, I have never went into one of your neat chats. Permalink
Oliver. None of that was bullying. No matter how mean you think it is, it wasn't. Removing you without fair warning may not be the nicest thing (and I have a feeling he DID warn you) but its not against any rules. If he removed you from your own group "ages ago" then it shouldn't matter anymore. And Oliver, you shouldn't be in extreme TFOLs. Done. Don't make excuses, you shouldn't be in that group. You have to be 13-19. So you need to be booted. Good day. Permalink
Unfortunately, I don't have time to read through everything right now. Chris if you've got time, go for it.
Meanwhile, I'll lock the thread until I can get to it in the morning. At that point I'll decide whether to re-open it, or move things into a private conversation with Cade and Oliver elsewhere. Permalink
1) Oliver certainly CAN be in a TFOL group IF administration of that group allows him in - it's each group's leader/s that determine who's welcome and who's not. He doesn't really belong in such a group, but regardless, it's the group's leaders that make the call.
2) Oliver: If Cade removed you from one of your own groups, you must have made him an admin. Once that's done, he has the right to remove you. We say it all of the time - CHOOSE CAREFULLY WHO YOU GIVE POWER TO IN ANY GROUP. Once that person is admin, they have as much control as you.
3) Oliver said: "...like i think you are the guy in my neat chat that spams my neat chat..." Oliver, I need you to be certain and provide evidence - otherwise, it's simply your word against his. If you have proof of him belittling you, trolling, etc., then we'll look into it. But, if you can't provide a good bit of evidence, then you need to let it go.
To sum up here...
Based upon the arguments made here, I don't see any reason to intervene further.
Oliver, I think it's time that you and I spoke privately. Tomorrow, I'll provide a link to a private group where you and I can speak one on one, without others being able to join in or see our discussion.
A quick word to all: If someone is frustrating you, or "stirring the pot," to respond in any way only empowers them. My suggestion is to ignore any such individual to the HIGHEST DEGREE. Don't speak to them, don't return arguement, don't interact at all. Most of the time (I know, not always, but usually) that person will eventually go somewhere else. Permalink
Oliver, I've sent you an invitation to a private group, referred to as "time out." I'd appreciate it if you would join the group so we can talk openly without others being involved in the conversation. I'll notify Chris, and he may join in as well, at his discretion. Permalink
Quoting Chris Phipson
Collective sigh of relief from a huge proportion of the MOCpages community.