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MOC Imitation (Cloning)
Hello,

While looking around for creations I found this: http://www.mocpages.com/moc.php/310949

In my opinion this is a total rip-off of one of my creations I built right before: http://www.mocpages.com/moc.php/309048

He posed the figures the same, used almost the same title and used my techniques.

he haven't asked me if he's allowed. I would accept it if he would give a short credit but he didn't.


I want this creation removed because it's just a (kinda bad) imitation of my creation.


Thanks,

Deff.
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| February 24, 2012, 11:52 am
I left him a comment and said that I don't think it's okay.
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| February 24, 2012, 12:15 pm
Imitation is the sincerest form of flattery.


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| February 24, 2012, 2:42 pm
THERE. Happy? I deleted the file, now it's all over.
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| February 24, 2012, 4:00 pm
Okay, how do I explain this...

Quoting Deff .
Hello,

While looking around for creations I found this: http://www.mocpages.com/moc.php/310949

In my opinion this is a total rip-off of one of my creations I built right before: http://www.mocpages.com/moc.php/309048

He posed the figures the same, used almost the same title and used my techniques.

About copying your minifigs- It must be a coincidence! It could be same characters from a movie, a TV show. He just wanted to make a scene accurate



About the title... yes the title is similar, BUT if you search, there's more MOCs that has he word "Dorin" http://www.mocpages.com/search_RESULTS.php?query=dorin&total=23&page=1&sort=best_match&filter=moc&personid= < So some of those MOCs have almost a similar title as your MOC

About copying your minifigs- It must be a coincidence! It could be same characters from a movie, a TV show

About copying your techniques- Not really! It's SNOTed. Studs-Not-On Top is not your idea.
The rest-not really copied.


Quoting Deff. :--_:
he haven't asked me if he's allowed. I would accept it if he would give a short credit but he didn't.


I want this creation removed because it's just a (kinda bad) imitation of my creation.

*Ahem* Mods only remove content that are Non-lego! You're taking this to far dude. Don't get mad that a MOC is sinilar to yours.
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| February 24, 2012, 4:06 pm
Quoting Deff .
Hello,

While looking around for creations I found this: http://www.mocpages.com/moc.php/310949

In my opinion this is a total rip-off of one of my creations I built right before: http://www.mocpages.com/moc.php/309048

He posed the figures the same, used almost the same title and used my techniques.

he haven't asked me if he's allowed. I would accept it if he would give a short credit but he didn't.


I want this creation removed because it's just a (kinda bad) imitation of my creation.


Thanks,

Deff.

WHAT IS WRONG WITH YOU?! All it is is that he accidentally related an MOC to yours, and he didn't know. I'm so mad at you, I'm removing you from my favorite builders, sorry.
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| February 24, 2012, 4:07 pm
Quoting ++++ Andrew . (Gareth) ++++ (

That has to be the most unnecessary name I have ever seen, ever.
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| February 24, 2012, 4:12 pm
Quoting Zack .
THERE. Happy? I deleted the file, now it's all over.

You can bring it back. Deff just think it's "not allowed". I think it's okay just as long the creator can bet mention or credit. But you don't have to give Deff recognition now that he made a big deal out of it.
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| February 24, 2012, 4:12 pm
Quoting Eric 'Hawk' Mickle
That has to be the most unnecessary name I have ever seen, ever.

*Ahem* You're off-topic.
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| February 24, 2012, 4:13 pm
Quoting Bluestar ~
*Ahem* You're off-topic.

You're rediculous.

I'm helping him to annoy less people.
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| February 24, 2012, 4:19 pm
Quoting Ru Corder
Imitation is the sincerest form of flattery.

Well said that man!

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| February 24, 2012, 4:23 pm
Quoting Deff .
Hello,

While looking around for creations I found this: http://www.mocpages.com/moc.php/310949

In my opinion this is a total rip-off of one of my creations I built right before: http://www.mocpages.com/moc.php/309048

He posed the figures the same, used almost the same title and used my techniques.

he haven't asked me if he's allowed. I would accept it if he would give a short credit but he didn't.


I want this creation removed because it's just a (kinda bad) imitation of my creation.


Thanks,

Deff.


Well, we both didn't use the same figures. Your vig was shorter, while I did a 16x16. You also used an ARF, and I used an ARC Trooper. Most of 15% is not related to yours.

Why call one of my creations "bad"? It had about 4 likes before you discovered it . . .
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| February 24, 2012, 4:24 pm
Quoting Eric 'Hawk' Mickle
You're rediculous.

I'm helping him to annoy less people.

Still...
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| February 24, 2012, 4:27 pm
Quoting Bluestar ~
Still...

"Ahem, you're off-topic."


See how annoying that is?

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| February 24, 2012, 4:30 pm
Quoting Eric 'Hawk' Mickle
That has to be the most unnecessary name I have ever seen, ever.

"+"'s are Jesus Crosses, and you made it off topic >:(, and "Gareth" is his middle name. HE IS A CHRISTIAN, Duh.
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| February 24, 2012, 4:30 pm
Stop guys, I didn't copy it. It was a different sized vig and I used more plants then yours Deff, and also, I used a red blade for the blaster, and you used a blue one. Sorry for copying it Deff. I've already been reported 2 times :(
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| February 24, 2012, 4:30 pm
Quoting Zack .
"+"'s are Jesus Crosses, and you made it off topic >:(

Not the plus-signs you dolt, the paragraph after it.

I've also pointed out how unnecessary "omg it's off da topic gosh" people are.
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| February 24, 2012, 4:33 pm
Stop hacking me Andrew! You're the one who wrote the "angry letter," and you're making it off-topic.
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| February 24, 2012, 4:35 pm
Quoting Eric 'Hawk' Mickle
"Ahem, you're off-topic."


See how annoying that is?


I's not annoying to me.
At least I wrote a comment that was "ON" topic.





Quoting Deff
Before making topics randomly, Look back at the previous convos that have a similar situation like this.
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| February 24, 2012, 4:36 pm
Quoting Zack .
Stop guys, I didn't copy it. It was a different sized vig and I used more plants then yours Deff, and also, I used a red blade for the blaster, and you used a blue one. Sorry for copying it Deff. I've already been reported 2 times :(

the thing I noticed was that the writing on the moc(Zack's0 was very similar to deff's.
(Something like:Just a little vig, I like it)
don't quote me but that was basically it
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| February 24, 2012, 4:36 pm
Quoting commander-118 Allen
the thing I noticed was that the writing on the moc(Zack's0 was very similar to deff's.
(Something like:Just a little vig, I like it)
don't quote me but that was basically it


I know . . .
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| February 24, 2012, 4:39 pm
Quoting Eric 'Hawk' Mickle
Not the plus-signs you dolt, the paragraph after it.

I've also pointed out how unnecessary "omg it's off da topic gosh" people are.

You called me ridiculous and you called Zack a D0L+?

I have a feeling that your comments should be moderated. Just....rude.
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| February 24, 2012, 4:40 pm
Quoting Bluestar ~

I's not annoying to me.
At least I wrote a comment that was "ON" topic.

You children just can't accept how annoying you are. I'm leaving before you respond with an all caps comment, tah.
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| February 24, 2012, 4:41 pm
Quoting Zack .

I know . . .

To be honest, does it really matter if Zack. purposely or accidentaly copyied Deff's creation, there is nothing to lose and this site is really just for fun. :D
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| February 24, 2012, 4:41 pm
Quoting Bluestar ~
You called me ridiculous and you called Zack a D0L+?

I have a feeling that your comments should be moderated. Just....rude.


IKR, but who wrote that comment was my bro Andrew.
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| February 24, 2012, 4:42 pm
Quoting Zack .
Stop hacking me Andrew! You're the one who wrote the "angry letter," and you're making it off-topic.

If your bro knows your password, change it at least.
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| February 24, 2012, 4:42 pm
Quoting Bluestar ~
You called me ridiculous and you called Zack a D0L+?

I have a feeling that your comments should be moderated. Just....rude.

D-O-L-T?! He deserves to be banned, and I should report him for calling my brother a name. >:\
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| February 24, 2012, 4:42 pm
Quoting Bluestar ~
If your bro knows your password, change it at least.


K :P
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| February 24, 2012, 4:42 pm
Quoting Bluestar ~
You called me ridiculous and you called Zack a D0L+?

I have a feeling that your comments should be moderated. Just....rude.

Because little children can't handle very mild comments.
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| February 24, 2012, 4:44 pm
Quoting Eric 'Hawk' Mickle
You're rediculous.

I'm helping him to annoy less people.


YOU'RE the one who's ridiculous

You made this convo off topic!-Not so smart.
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| February 24, 2012, 4:47 pm
Quoting Bluestar ~
You called me ridiculous and you called Zack a D0L+?

I have a feeling that your comments should be moderated. Just....rude.

Ridiculous? He called you ridiculous? The nerve! BAN HIM!!
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| February 24, 2012, 4:47 pm
Woah, you GUYS R OWNIN ERIC. Stop, I know it's not nice, but stop the arguing.
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| February 24, 2012, 4:48 pm
Quoting Ru Corder
Ridiculous? He called you ridiculous? The nerve! BAN HIM!!

IKR!
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| February 24, 2012, 4:49 pm
TAKE THIS UNWORTHY PEOPLE.

this is. not a very good "argument" so I might just have Chris delete it...


now live long and prosper.
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| February 24, 2012, 4:49 pm
Quoting Nate B
TAKE THIS UNWORTHY PEOPLE.

this is. not a very good "argument" so I might just have Chris delete it...


now live long and prosper.


Amen Nate, Amen.
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| February 24, 2012, 4:50 pm
Quoting Zack .
Woah, you GUYS R OWNIN ERIC. Stop, I know it's not nice, but stop the arguing.

He deserves it, he called you a Dol+ and he called Christian J. "Ridiculous" Well, he is "Ridiculous".
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| February 24, 2012, 4:50 pm
Quoting ++++ Andrew . (Gareth) ++++ (HHHHHUUUUUGGGGGEEEE NNNNNAAAAAMMMMMEEEEE
I'M 11 AND SO IS ~BLUESTAR!!!

Hey look, caps. I predicted this!
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| February 24, 2012, 4:50 pm
Quoting ++++ Andrew . (Gareth) ++++ (Won't be that active now, got 2 video games for Valentine's day, and I want to try them, but I never got to, my parents say I should get away from the computer, and I should play video games and the new ones now for a little
He deserves it, he called you a Dol+ and he called Christian J. "Ridiculous" Well, he is.

YUSS! How dare he offend the collective congress of 11 year olds! BURN HIM AT THE STAKE!!
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| February 24, 2012, 4:52 pm
Quoting Eric 'Hawk' Mickle
Hey look, caps. I predicted this!


I know, but saying people are "ridicoulous" make them mad. I think you might need to apologize.

Quoting The Admins

Let's just leave this up to you guys, ok?
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| February 24, 2012, 4:53 pm
Quoting Ru Corder
YUSS! How dare he offend the collective congress of 11 year olds! BURN HIM AT THE STAKE!!

Yeah, I can always trust you, whatever you say is true. I'm adding you as a favorite builder, for being honest. ;)
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| February 24, 2012, 4:54 pm
Quoting Zack .
Woah, you GUYS R OWNIN ERIC.

I don't remember any enslavement purchase.

But yes, stop throwing rocks at a giant.
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| February 24, 2012, 4:54 pm
Quoting Eric 'Hawk' Mickle
Hey look, caps. I predicted this!

HEY Y U SO MEEEAAAAN!!!



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| February 24, 2012, 4:54 pm
Quoting Ru Corder, ++++ Andrew . (Gareth) ++++, and Bluestar ~


Ok guys, stop being mean. I'm starting to feel bad for Eric, one comment can JUST make one big situation.
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| February 24, 2012, 4:55 pm
Quoting Eric 'Hawk' Mickle
I don't remember any enslavement purchase.

But yes, stop throwing rocks at a giant.


IKR?
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| February 24, 2012, 4:55 pm
my people.. lets stop this nonsence and brig this to an end sothat my dear freind Zackwont feal bad about accedently making somthin that you made..

as they say great minds think alike.



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| February 24, 2012, 4:55 pm
Quoting Eric '(A BIIIIRRDDD SPECIES!!!!!' Mickle
Hey look, caps. I predicted this!

Seriously?
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| February 24, 2012, 4:55 pm
my people.. lets stop this nonsence and brig this to an end sothat my dear freind Zackwont feal bad about accedently making somthin that you made..

as they say great minds think alike.

sorry for typos i am using my ipad.

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| February 24, 2012, 4:56 pm
Guys! The kid said he was sorry! The purpose of this thread has been settled. Please lock the convo.
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| February 24, 2012, 4:56 pm
*Ahem*
I think some of you may have problems with sarcasm detectors...

=P
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| February 24, 2012, 4:56 pm
Quoting Nate B
my people.. lets stop this nonsence and brig this to an end sothat my dear freind Zackwont feal bad about accedently making somthin that you made..



as they say great minds think alike.




I do feel bad for Eric, Nate, 3 people are just "being mean" to him, saying he should be banned.
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| February 24, 2012, 4:57 pm
Quoting Zack .

I know, but saying people are "ridicoulous" make them mad. I think you might need to apologize.

I only apologize when I have wronged.
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| February 24, 2012, 4:57 pm
Quoting Chris Stone
Guys! The kid said he was sorry! The purpose of this thread has been settled. Please lock the convo.

Exactly, a pathetic thread, and people have to get mean about it. So dramatic.
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| February 24, 2012, 4:57 pm
Quoting ++++ Andrew . (Gareth) ++++ (Won't be that active now, got 2 video games for Valentine's day, and I want to try them, but I never got to, my parents say I should get away from the computer, and I should play video games and the new ones now for a little
Quoting Eric 'Hawk' Pickle
Hey look, caps. I predicted this!

I'm reporting you to MOCPages, you got a big problem!!

Go right ahead, you'll just face dissapointment.
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| February 24, 2012, 4:57 pm
Quoting Nate B
TAKE THIS UNWORTHY PEOPLE.

this is. not a very good "argument" so I might just have Chris delete it...


now live long and prosper.
I won't allow you to steal my line!

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| February 24, 2012, 4:58 pm
Quoting Eric 'Hawk' Mickle
I only apologize when I have wronged.

yeah its just a mistake, he shouldent be band... I mean like you guys are taking this way to far...and you are only 11..
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| February 24, 2012, 4:58 pm
Quoting Chris Stone
Quoting Nate B
TAKE THIS UNWORTHY PEOPLE.

this is. not a very good "argument" so I might just have Chris delete it...


now live long and prosper.
I won't allow you to steal my line!
TE HE

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| February 24, 2012, 4:59 pm
Quoting Chris Stone
Guys! The kid said he was sorry! The purpose of this thread has been settled. Please lock the convo.


Exactly.

Quoting the others

This topic isn't about Eric being mean to 3 people, it's just about me accidentally copying Deff's Dorin Vig.
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| February 24, 2012, 5:00 pm
Quoting Ru Corder
*Ahem*
I think some of you may have problems with sarcasm detectors...

=P

Touché...
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| February 24, 2012, 5:00 pm
Quoting Zack .
Ok guys, stop being mean. I'm starting to feel bad for Eric, one comment can JUST make one big situation.

Don't feel bad, this is such fun. Why, I've cooked up some popcorn for this entertainment.

Ru was being sarcastic, by the way.
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| February 24, 2012, 5:00 pm
Okay. leave this up to the admins!

Admins, reason with Deff who has a prob with Zack having a similar MOC as his. (The real problem that is on-topic)

And you might wanna reason with Eric being rude so he won't act like this again.

~Bluestar.
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| February 24, 2012, 5:00 pm
Quoting Eric 'Hawk' Mickle
Don't feel bad, this is such fun. Why, I've cooked up some popcorn for this entertainment.

Ru was being sarcastic, by the way.

yeah ....hes a 10 year old..te he
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| February 24, 2012, 5:01 pm
Quoting Zack .

Exactly.

Quoting the others

This topic isn't about Eric being mean to 3 people, it's just about me accidentally copying Deff's Dorin Vig.


Am I one PERSON THAT IS GETTING BULLIED BY ERIC? Well, he's not hurting my feelings, nice try Eric.
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| February 24, 2012, 5:02 pm
Quoting Eric 'Hawk' Mickle
Don't feel bad, this is such fun. Why, I've cooked up some popcorn for this entertainment.

Ru was being sarcastic, by the way.


Heh heh, this is quite entertaining -.-
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| February 24, 2012, 5:02 pm
Quoting Bluestar ~
Okay. leave this up to the admins!

Admins, reason with Deff who has a prob with Zack having a similar MOC as his. (The real problem that is on-topic)

And you might wanna reason with Eric being rude so he won't act like this again.

~Bluestar.

yeah. no need to. ban anyone.
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| February 24, 2012, 5:02 pm
...Where's Deff in this?...
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| February 24, 2012, 5:02 pm
Quoting Nate B
yeah ....hes a 10 year old..te he


Don't make fun of my age, k? Also, I do agree.
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| February 24, 2012, 5:03 pm
Quoting Zack .

Don't make fun of my age, k? Also, I do agree.

I was saying thatabout RU.
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| February 24, 2012, 5:04 pm
Quoting Nate B
I was saying thatabout RU.


Oh :3
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| February 24, 2012, 5:04 pm
Haven't you guys got building to do?
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| February 24, 2012, 5:05 pm
Quoting Nate B
I was saying thatabout RU.

...

Why, may I ask?
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| February 24, 2012, 5:05 pm
Quoting Bluestar ~
And you might wanna reason with Eric being rude so he won't act like this again.

But, you guys DO deserve it. You were being such a nuissance it's tragic.
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| February 24, 2012, 5:05 pm
I'm leaving this group because of things I get annoyed of: Eric 'Hawk' Mickle, and getting spammed because of this chat, all it is is that Zack made a vignette and Deff got all ANGRY ABOUT IT.
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| February 24, 2012, 5:05 pm
Quoting ++++ Andrew . (Gareth) ++++ (Won't be that active now, got 2 video games for Valentine's day, and I want to try them, but I never got to, my parents say I should get away from the computer, and I should play video games and the new ones now for a little

Am I one PERSON THAT IS GETTING BULLIED BY ERIC? Well, he's not hurting my feelings, nice try Eric.

Me too. Hehehehe >:P

I would only be offended a diiferent way >:p


Oh yeah, admins, lock this topic please before it can get out of hand.
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| February 24, 2012, 5:05 pm
Quoting Ru Corder
...

Why, may I ask?

.....no reason....
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| February 24, 2012, 5:06 pm
Quoting DeTomaso Pantera
Haven't you guys got building to do?

Some people watch comedy movies, I read MOCpages Help...

It's where I get my giggles man, don't take my giggles away!
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| February 24, 2012, 5:07 pm
Quoting DeTomaso Pantera
Haven't you guys got building to do?

Organizing, actually.

What are YOU doing here? =P
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| February 24, 2012, 5:08 pm
Quoting Eric 'Hawk' Mickey Mouse
But, you guys DO deserve it. You were being such a nuissance it's tragic.

You deserve it!! You're getting involved in this ---- thread though it was up to Deff and Zack, AND HE ALREADY SAID HE DELETED THE MOC, SO GET OVER IT.
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| February 24, 2012, 5:08 pm
Quoting Ru Corder
Some people watch comedy movies, I read MOCpages Help...

It's where I get my giggles man, don't take my giggles away!

Lol, true dat.
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| February 24, 2012, 5:08 pm
Quoting Ru Corder
Some people watch comedy movies, I read MOCpages Help...

It's where I get my giggles man, don't take my giggles away!

I do a little of both. "The Master of Disguise" is the best comedy movie EVER! But this has been quite entertaining as well...
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| February 24, 2012, 5:09 pm
Quoting Bluestar ~
before it can get out of hand.

That time has passed my friend.
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| February 24, 2012, 5:10 pm
Giggle...
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| February 24, 2012, 5:11 pm
Quoting ++++ Andrew . (Gareth) ++++ (Won't be that active now, got 2 video games for Valentine's day, and I want to try them, but I never got to, my parents say I should get away from the computer, and I should play video games and the new ones now for a little
You deserve it!! You're getting involved in this ---- thread though it was up to Deff and Zack, AND HE ALREADY SAID HE DELETED THE MOC, SO GET OVER IT.

To be correct: tis issue was caused by your rather obscene paragraph-name. I tried to help, but you all wouldn't have any of that.

So it's your fault! Tee-hee =P
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| February 24, 2012, 5:11 pm
Guys, you're cluttering my activity box. It all says "(place name here) has written in MOCpages help". Admins, just lock this.
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| February 24, 2012, 5:12 pm
THIS IS ALL MY FAULT!!! :( I DIDN'T MEAN TO COPY YOU GUYS, I'M JUST SORRY DEFF!
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| February 24, 2012, 5:14 pm
Comparing these two vignettes I conclude that there aren't so many similarities at all,

the builds are completely different, the plants are different, the wall is different.
The only copy I see is the concept of a clone firing at a droid with open arms and that's not exactly something to claim credit for I find.
In my opinion you both made a clone on a plate, note that you each made a different plate.


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| February 24, 2012, 5:15 pm
Quoting Bluestar ~
Guys, you're cluttering my activity box. It all says "(place name here) has written in MOCpages help". Admins, just lock this.

You can stop telling the admins to lock this, cause when they find it, I assure you, they will lock it.
But telling them to isn't going to make them find it any faster.

Just thought I'd point that out...
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| February 24, 2012, 5:16 pm
Quoting Sebeus I
Comparing these two vignettes I conclude that there aren't so many similarities at all,

the builds are completely different, the plants are different, the wall is different.
The only copy I see is the concept of a clone firing at a droid with open arms and that's not exactly something to claim credit for I find.
In my opinion you both made a clone on a plate, note that you each made a different plate.

Exactly. And finally! A comment that is actually on-topic.
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| February 24, 2012, 5:17 pm
Quoting Sebeus I
Comparing these two vignettes I conclude that there aren't so many similarities at all,

the builds are completely different, the plants are different, the wall is different.
The only copy I see is the concept of a clone firing at a droid with open arms and that's not exactly something to claim credit for I find.
In my opinion you both made a clone on a plate, note that you each made a different plate.


Exactly! Thanks for telling him the differences, I owe you credit.
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| February 24, 2012, 5:17 pm
This is ridiculous!What's the point in fighting here?Zack just made a little mistake and then this comes in! >.>
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| February 24, 2012, 5:24 pm
Quoting Raviel Ze MOCist!
This is ridiculous!What's the point in fighting here?Zack just made a little mistake and then this comes in! >.>


>.>
<.<
You are right Raviel. ;)
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| February 24, 2012, 5:27 pm
Wanna hear a joke guys?
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| February 24, 2012, 5:29 pm
Quoting Chris Stone
Wanna hear a joke guys?

No. I already got enough laughs. :P
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| February 24, 2012, 5:31 pm
Quoting Chris Stone
Wanna hear a joke guys?


No. You telling your joke is gonna be told in the wrong place.
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| February 24, 2012, 5:31 pm
Quoting Zack .

No. You telling your joke is gonna be told in the wrong place.

Well, technically, this convo is in the wrong place.
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| February 24, 2012, 5:33 pm
Quoting Chris Stone
Well, technically, this convo is in the wrong place.


Right.
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| February 24, 2012, 5:34 pm
Wow! Another uproar in Help!

I am with Deff on this one. No matter what (unless the original creator says it's okay) you MUST give credit IF you copied anything from his/her MOC.

And I don't think Deff was really mean about it.

Zack, why did you delete the MOC? You could just edit that MOC to give Deff credit, say sorry, and that's the end of the story.

-LB Jr.
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| February 24, 2012, 5:54 pm
Ok LB, I already said "sorry," and Deff hasn't responded yet.
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| February 24, 2012, 6:02 pm
So I had a look at the cause of this... exercise.

And I've concluded:
What the FRACK is wrong with you kiddies?

Yes, there's some very minor similarities.
NO, there is no "ripping off" going on here.

"It's just a vig I made and I like it" is not a copyrighted statement. It's the standard text for a post that doesn't really need a description.

As for content, a clone with a skirt and visor is also not an original creation. Neither is using a bog-standard clone helmet from a set.

That "technique" with the alien arms out sideways has been done dozens if not hundreds of times before, including by me. Am I going around saying THIEF!! when I see it used, because I used it years ago? No, I am not.

Building walkways/roads/footpaths etcetera studs-sideways is not in any way unique. Neither is placing vegetation off to the side of it to cover a boring patch of flat earth.

The wall; there is SOME miniscule similarity at work there, but nowhere near enough to scream thief.

Now, on to the fig posing:
Deathkiddie's fig has one of those blaster rifles, with some modifications, and is firing it in the standard side-on off-hand stance, and is also wearing a jetpack.

Zack's fig has two pistols and a backpack, and is firing in a "cowboy" pose, chest-on to the target. An invitation for a lungshot, but I digress.

The backpacks involved have some tiny similarities, but again, nothing I'd consider a sign of either theft or derivation. Using one of those handle pieces as a backpack has been done many times before. Including, incidentally, by me.

Let's have another look at those walkways:
Deathkiddie's walkway is built studs toward the camera, and is held in place by headlight bricks. Fairly clever, but nowhere near unique.
Zack's walkway is built studs-sideways, and is held in place by a different arrangement of headlight bricks. Also nowhere near unique.

Both 31337 cl0n3 trupprs are shooting a surrendering target, and supporting my theory that the Old Republic was a fascist entity. This, while morally repugnant, is not something that either person involved can claim to have created. I've seen dozens of mocs using the same general theme of a clone going around executing surrendering enemies.

All told, Deff is acting like a spoiled little baby, and Zack is being far too conciliatory and submissive in the face of blatant bullying.

Deff: man up and apologize. You're being abusive toward Zack for absolutely no reason but your own inherent desires to be treated like a king.

Zack: when someone's in the wrong, you have a right to refuse to submit to their will. No one has ever been banned from mocpages for standing up for themselves. From what I've seen of the works involved, you copied nothing from Deff, and you should, in my opinion, demand he apologizes and retracts his accusations. Publicly.
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| February 24, 2012, 10:21 pm
Quoting Areetsa C

You basically summed up my thoughts on this matter. Not really a topic that should have been brought to this group or public attention for that matter. If Deff has a problem with Zack, he should've confronted him privately.
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| February 24, 2012, 10:33 pm
Quoting Areetsa C
So I had a look at the cause of this... exercise.

And I've concluded:
What the FRACK is wrong with you kiddies?

Yes, there's some very minor similarities.
NO, there is no "ripping off" going on here.

"It's just a vig I made and I like it" is not a copyrighted statement. It's the standard text for a post that doesn't really need a description.

As for content, a clone with a skirt and visor is also not an original creation. Neither is using a bog-standard clone helmet from a set.

That "technique" with the alien arms out sideways has been done dozens if not hundreds of times before, including by me. Am I going around saying THIEF!! when I see it used, because I used it years ago? No, I am not.

Building walkways/roads/footpaths etcetera studs-sideways is not in any way unique. Neither is placing vegetation off to the side of it to cover a boring patch of flat earth.

The wall; there is SOME miniscule similarity at work there, but nowhere near enough to scream thief.

Now, on to the fig posing:
Deathkiddie's fig has one of those blaster rifles, with some modifications, and is firing it in the standard side-on off-hand stance, and is also wearing a jetpack.

Zack's fig has two pistols and a backpack, and is firing in a "cowboy" pose, chest-on to the target. An invitation for a lungshot, but I digress.

The backpacks involved have some tiny similarities, but again, nothing I'd consider a sign of either theft or derivation. Using one of those handle pieces as a backpack has been done many times before. Including, incidentally, by me.

Let's have another look at those walkways:
Deathkiddie's walkway is built studs toward the camera, and is held in place by headlight bricks. Fairly clever, but nowhere near unique.
Zack's walkway is built studs-sideways, and is held in place by a different arrangement of headlight bricks. Also nowhere near unique.

Both 31337 cl0n3 trupprs are shooting a surrendering target, and supporting my theory that the Old Republic was a fascist entity. This, while morally repugnant, is not something that either person involved can claim to have created. I've seen dozens of mocs using the same general theme of a clone going around executing surrendering enemies.

All told, Deff is acting like a spoiled little baby, and Zack is being far too conciliatory and submissive in the face of blatant bullying.

Deff: man up and apologize. You're being abusive toward Zack for absolutely no reason but your own inherent desires to be treated like a king.

Zack: when someone's in the wrong, you have a right to refuse to submit to their will. No one has ever been banned from mocpages for standing up for themselves. From what I've seen of the works involved, you copied nothing from Deff, and you should, in my opinion, demand he apologizes and retracts his accusations. Publicly.

Exactly! You've spoken the truth.
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| February 24, 2012, 10:39 pm
Quoting Chris Stone
You basically summed up my thoughts on this matter. Not really a topic that should have been brought to this group or public attention for that matter. If Deff has a problem with Zack, he should've confronted him privately.

Quoting Bluestar ~
Exactly! You've spoken the truth.

Please trim your quotes. It's not that I don't appreciate what you're saying, but quoting my entire post takes up most of a page.
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| February 24, 2012, 10:42 pm
Quoting Areetsa C
Quoting Bluestar ~
Exactly! You've spoken the truth.

Please trim your quotes. It's not that I don't appreciate what you're saying, but quoting my entire post takes up most of a page.

Haha! Sorry :S
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| February 24, 2012, 10:47 pm
Ergh. This is ridiculous.

If you are inspired by, or use part of, someone elses's creation to create your own, it's the RIGHT thing to do to say so. You have no obligation to, but it's NICE as it helps that person get more views and recognition.

So;

If you're a MOCer and a NICE person, state where you got your ideas.

If you've come up with a good idea, DO NOT state 'give me credit!', because you have no right to. Yes it's annoying if someone uses it without saying where they got it from, but tough- this is the Internet.


Now as for all the nonsense that's led to this huge conversation; grow up and get out of the house, there's a world outside LEGO and MOCpages you know. Spend some time in it and you might not get so worked up about what happens here in this little corner of the Internet.

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| February 25, 2012, 4:38 am
 Group moderator 
sigh - if there are any mods still working around here, lock this convo will you.

there is an entire group devoted to "swiping" perhaps you would be better serves discussing this over there - if they will let you join, after reading this thread I wouldn't.

The phrase "grow up" springs to mind.
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| February 25, 2012, 5:46 am
I got the situation wrong, Zack. Excuse me.

I felt imitated. It's a bad feeling so excuse my (hard) words. Please re-add the creation and give a short credit like: "inspired by Deff ." or something like this.

I'm sorry for all this, I just should ask you privately if you could give credit.

@Andrew (Gareth): A favorite builder is someone that makes creations you like. If you remove me now because of I felt imitaded, you may have something with your logic.

I would like to thank everyone who told me his opinion.

And again: I'm very sorry, I shouldn't opened this topic. It's juust a d#mn bad feeling to get imitated. Only if you once got imitated you can say things like: "Man, what's your problem you get mad about this thing."


With this I would like to end the whole thing and hope Zack and Me will learn about it.

Sorry,

Deff .


PS.: Haha, Ru, your comments are so great! :D

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| February 25, 2012, 5:52 am
Quoting Zack .
Stop guys, I didn't copy it. It was a different sized vig and I used more plants then yours Deff, and also, I used a red blade for the blaster, and you used a blue one. Sorry for copying it Deff. I've already been reported 2 times :(



Pfft. Dude, those are hardly noticeable differences.
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| February 25, 2012, 6:11 am
Quoting Areetsa C
So I had a look at the cause of this... exercise.

And I've concluded:
What the FRACK is wrong with you kiddies?

Yes, there's some very minor similarities.
NO, there is no "ripping off" going on here.

"It's just a vig I made and I like it" is not a copyrighted statement. It's the standard text for a post that doesn't really need a description.

As for content, a clone with a skirt and visor is also not an original creation. Neither is using a bog-standard clone helmet from a set.

That "technique" with the alien arms out sideways has been done dozens if not hundreds of times before, including by me. Am I going around saying THIEF!! when I see it used, because I used it years ago? No, I am not.

Building walkways/roads/footpaths etcetera studs-sideways is not in any way unique. Neither is placing vegetation off to the side of it to cover a boring patch of flat earth.

The wall; there is SOME miniscule similarity at work there, but nowhere near enough to scream thief.

Now, on to the fig posing:
Deathkiddie's fig has one of those blaster rifles, with some modifications, and is firing it in the standard side-on off-hand stance, and is also wearing a jetpack.

Zack's fig has two pistols and a backpack, and is firing in a "cowboy" pose, chest-on to the target. An invitation for a lungshot, but I digress.

The backpacks involved have some tiny similarities, but again, nothing I'd consider a sign of either theft or derivation. Using one of those handle pieces as a backpack has been done many times before. Including, incidentally, by me.

Let's have another look at those walkways:
Deathkiddie's walkway is built studs toward the camera, and is held in place by headlight bricks. Fairly clever, but nowhere near unique.
Zack's walkway is built studs-sideways, and is held in place by a different arrangement of headlight bricks. Also nowhere near unique.

Both 31337 cl0n3 trupprs are shooting a surrendering target, and supporting my theory that the Old Republic was a fascist entity. This, while morally repugnant, is not something that either person involved can claim to have created. I've seen dozens of mocs using the same general theme of a clone going around executing surrendering enemies.

All told, Deff is acting like a spoiled little baby, and Zack is being far too conciliatory and submissive in the face of blatant bullying.

Deff: man up and apologize. You're being abusive toward Zack for absolutely no reason but your own inherent desires to be treated like a king.

Zack: when someone's in the wrong, you have a right to refuse to submit to their will. No one has ever been banned from mocpages for standing up for themselves. From what I've seen of the works involved, you copied nothing from Deff, and you should, in my opinion, demand he apologizes and retracts his accusations. Publicly.

You are now abusing me?!

I'm sure you never got imitated. If you got you wouldn't talk like this to me and abusing me deathkiddie and spoiled little baby. You can talk to me again if you get copied like this. To all the things you noticed: I wasn't talking of little things like the bagpack or something you talked about. I was talking about the main-system.

I don't think of have to legitimate myself any longer in front of you.


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| February 25, 2012, 6:24 am
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