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 Group moderator 
This is a common complaint here on MOCpages, but every now and again people create MOCs that contain adult themes or bad language and forget to add a PG filter.

Here is an example

http://www.mocpages.com/home.php/87436

Bad language is against the rules in comments, but is tolerated in MOCs if the PG filter is present AND the language is in context.

I personally DO NOT believe the language in this Homepage was called for.

Sean, Chris and Mark, what action can be taken regarding the bad language on someone's home page?
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| August 6, 2012, 6:29 am
DerpSpawn has always made me laugh with his stuff, but this is really messed up. I've done my best not to judge him, but wow, this kind of ruins it. If it really is him, he's got issues. I say it is something outside of MOCpages that is keeping him from having more freedom than he would like, and when he found MOCpages, he thought everything would be fine and dandy because it was the Internet, where everything goes. It's a shame that he hates everything as I have looked at his DeviantArt stuff, too. Even people like him are usually more upbeat and still have the will to appreciate things.
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| August 6, 2012, 6:43 am
I consider him a good guy, but this 'behaviour' is recent, it started last week. I'll try to talk to him, do you try that first? Maybe he has problems and doesn't realize the 'damage'.
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| August 6, 2012, 6:56 am
 Group admin 
We usually try to allow some freedom on the homepages as well as long as it doesn't get too out of hand.

That particular word "can" be said on cable (and the occasional late night on regular TV) but I agree personally that it doesn't have any place on MOCpages. Whichever way it goes, it's been reported to Sean so we'll see what he wants done (if anything) with it.
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| August 6, 2012, 8:52 am
You know, besides this, he has some other serious accusations against him. In my opinion deleting his account would be the best idea. He has caused the Bionicle community a lot of grief and breaking the rules like this is just wrong.

If he left it would make everyone happier.
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| August 6, 2012, 8:54 am
Quoting L.A. Miranda
I consider him a good guy, but this 'behaviour' is recent, it started last week. I'll try to talk to him, do you try that first? Maybe he has problems and doesn't realize the 'damage'.
yeah like his mocs catch phrases have bad words and stuff i think it just a phase in my opinion but yeah someone should let him know what he is doing.

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| August 6, 2012, 8:59 am
Quoting Kyle Peckham
You know, besides this, he has some other serious accusations against him. In my opinion deleting his account would be the best idea. He has caused the Bionicle community a lot of grief and breaking the rules like this is just wrong. If he left it would make everyone happier.

Is he the guy behind all the recent spamming?
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| August 6, 2012, 9:05 am
Quoting Wertman 8
Is he the guy behind all the recent spamming?

Apparently so, it's a long story. I could make a group and spend the rest of the day telling the story. It's that bad....

And I don't know it all. I only know what I have heard. But, if you need proof, there are screenshots posted on Flickr by various MP members who got spammed showing "Le Proof!" saying he was behind it.
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| August 6, 2012, 9:08 am
Quoting Kyle Peckham
Apparently so, it's a long story. I could make a group and spend the rest of the day telling the story. It's that bad....

And I don't know it all. I only know what I have heard. But, if you need proof, there are screenshots posted on Flickr by various MP members who got spammed showing "Le Proof!" saying he was behind it.

I heared that He was just trying to get revenge over the people who tried to get him removed from the site (Because of all the swearing and stuff)

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| August 6, 2012, 9:12 am
Quoting Kyle Peckham
Apparently so, it's a long story. I could make a group and spend the rest of the day telling the story. It's that bad....

And I don't know it all. I only know what I have heard. But, if you need proof, there are screenshots posted on Flickr by various MP members who got spammed showing "Le Proof!" saying he was behind it.
wow what are the MP mods going to do now.

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| August 6, 2012, 9:12 am
Quoting Wertman 8
I heared that He was just trying to get revenge over the people who tried to get him removed from the site (Because of all the swearing and stuff)

But then that wouldn't make sense, because I got spammed too, but I hadn't even heared of the guy until twenty minutes ago...
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| August 6, 2012, 9:16 am
Quoting Wertman 8
But then that wouldn't make sense, because I got spammed too, but I hadn't even heared of the guy until twenty minutes ago...

New members from DeviantArt. My theory is becoming more and more valid with each new spam. It's a long one, but it is fitting the patterns.....

Quoting juan calle
wow what are the MP mods going to do now.

Sean, Chris, and Mark are straightening all of this out now, but if this problem goes beyond the reach of MOCpages all they can do is get the trolls to leave MP. Other than that, not much can be done, as most of this is outside their jurisdiction on other sites like FaceBook, DeviantArt, etc.
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| August 6, 2012, 9:20 am
Quoting Kyle Peckham
New members from DeviantArt. My theory is becoming more and more valid with each new spam. It's a long one, but it is fitting the patterns.....

Quoting juan calle
wow what are the MP mods going to do now.

Sean, Chris, and Mark are straightening all of this out now, but if this problem goes beyond the reach of MOCpages all they can do is get the trolls to leave MP. Other than that, not much can be done, as most of this is outside their jurisdiction on other sites like FaceBook, DeviantArt, etc.

Do you think you could post a link to the flikr page which has "Le proof"?
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| August 6, 2012, 10:02 am
 Group admin 
Unfortunately, what I've seen on Flickr doesn't constitute proof. The screen captures certainly show threats, but not proof, which is what we would require.

As mentioned above, our concern is MOCpages, and when issues and events reach beyond MOCpages, they leave our jurisdiction. As I understand it, Sean's done what he can with the spam problem for the moment. Meanwhile, the content on Derp's home page will (I assume) be addressed as a seperate issue by Sean.

If Derp is responsible for spamming in the future, though, he'll more than likely get caught. Everyone - members and moderators alike - are keeping an eye on him, and if he slips up, we'll know.

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| August 6, 2012, 10:48 am
Quoting Mark Kelso
Unfortunately, what I've seen on Flickr doesn't constitute proof. The screen captures certainly show threats, but not proof, which is what we would require.

As mentioned above, our concern is MOCpages, and when issues and events reach beyond MOCpages, they leave our jurisdiction. As I understand it, Sean's done what he can with the spam problem for the moment. Meanwhile, the content on Derp's home page will (I assume) be addressed as a seperate issue by Sean.

If Derp is responsible for spamming in the future, though, he'll more than likely get caught. Everyone - members and moderators alike - are keeping an eye on him, and if he slips up, we'll know.

But surely if he's threatening people, then that's proof enough that he's going to be a problem?
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| August 6, 2012, 11:21 am
Quoting Mark Kelso
Unfortunately, what I've seen on Flickr doesn't constitute proof. The screen captures certainly show threats, but not proof, which is what we would require.

As mentioned above, our concern is MOCpages, and when issues and events reach beyond MOCpages, they leave our jurisdiction. As I understand it, Sean's done what he can with the spam problem for the moment. Meanwhile, the content on Derp's home page will (I assume) be addressed as a seperate issue by Sean.

If Derp is responsible for spamming in the future, though, he'll more than likely get caught. Everyone - members and moderators alike - are keeping an eye on him, and if he slips up, we'll know.

This pretty much sums all the situations up. ^_^
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| August 6, 2012, 12:00 pm
 Group moderator 
Quoting Wertman 8
But surely if he's threatening people, then that's proof enough that he's going to be a problem?


Sorry it doesn't work like that. You have to actually do something wrong before any action can be taken.

But someone who is deliberately disruptive will eventually slip up, it is only a matter of time.

Not that I have any personal experience or knowledge that Derp has been disruptive.
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| August 6, 2012, 12:18 pm
Quoting andros tempest

Sorry it doesn't work like that. You have to actually do something wrong before any action can be taken.

But someone who is deliberately disruptive will eventually slip up, it is only a matter of time.

oh ok.

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| August 6, 2012, 12:20 pm


I do, in fact, have proof. Alex (also known as DerpSpawn) and a few of his friends, were responsible for these spam attacks.

http://www.mocpages.com/image_zoom.php?mocid=&id=/user_images/85323/1344274235m

http://www.mocpages.com/image_zoom.php?mocid=&id=/user_images/85323/1344273914m


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| August 6, 2012, 1:26 pm
Quoting Chronos Omega


I do, in fact, have proof. Alex (also known as DerpSpawn) and a few of his friends, were responsible for these spam attacks.

http://www.mocpages.com/image_zoom.php?mocid=&id=/user_images/85323/1344274235m

http://www.mocpages.com/image_zoom.php?mocid=&id=/user_images/85323/1344273914m


Second that. Although the last one made me laugh. That troll got powned :D
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| August 6, 2012, 2:46 pm
The spammer has striked agin and this time the target was me http://www.mocpages.com/moc.php/335814
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| August 6, 2012, 3:10 pm
I just never had anything against DerpSpawn. Sigh.
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| August 6, 2012, 5:32 pm
This guy should not be on MOCpages!! He is completely rude! I think that his account should probably be deleted. I just don't like this guy.... But we will have to wait on what Sean says first. I hate people like him. I just do.
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| August 6, 2012, 5:46 pm
Quoting Mitchell "DiRT3 Gymkana Specialist"
This guy should not be on MOCpages!! He is completely rude! I think that his account should probably be deleted. I just don't like this guy.... But we will have to wait on what Sean says first. I hate people like him. I just do.
Same here

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| August 6, 2012, 7:09 pm
Quoting Mitchell "DiRT3 Gymkana Specialist"
Quoting Darren .Y

Yeah.... He used to be a fairly nice guy before he started hacking and spamming, I don't know what happened.

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| August 6, 2012, 7:36 pm
Quoting Chronos Omega


I do, in fact, have proof. Alex (also known as DerpSpawn) and a few of his friends, were responsible for these spam attacks.

http://www.mocpages.com/image_zoom.php?mocid=&id=/user_images/85323/1344274235m

http://www.mocpages.com/image_zoom.php?mocid=&id=/user_images/85323/1344273914m



Hmm, this is definitely intriguing...but I'm not sure if it can count as proof...
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| August 6, 2012, 7:48 pm
Quoting Legofreak2444 ~

Hmm, this is definitely intriguing...but I'm not sure if it can count as proof...
Proof or not he is not stoping.

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| August 6, 2012, 7:52 pm
Not that you can condemn him for any of this, but take a look at this:
http://www.neatchat.com/?id=8e243688b314fa9f8d02ad9e2a38cf5f
Just look through it and see what he says. Just showing what kind of guy he is.
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| August 6, 2012, 8:14 pm
Quoting Legofreak2444 ~
Not that you can condemn him for any of this, but take a look at this:
http://www.neatchat.com/?id=8e243688b314fa9f8d02ad9e2a38cf5f
Just look through it and see what he says. Just showing what kind of guy he is.
I try not to be violent but that guy realy gets under my nerves and why did you leave?

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| August 6, 2012, 8:25 pm
Quoting juan calle
I try not to be violent but that guy realy gets under my nerves and why did you leave?


I'm not gonna hang around a group like that anymore, thanks.
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| August 6, 2012, 8:27 pm
Quoting Legofreak2444 ~

I'm not gonna hang around a group like that anymore, thanks.

You think i like being there we need some one to take us to the other chat i hate it there 2 man but we need help to get to the chat.
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| August 6, 2012, 8:28 pm
Quoting juan calle
You think i like being there we need some one to take us to the other chat i hate it there 2 man but we need help to get to the chat.


There's more to life then chatrooms.
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| August 6, 2012, 8:35 pm
well duh but when i want to talk to people about lego and stuff where will i go definitaly not the that troll chat.Its ok if you dont want to go there.
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| August 6, 2012, 8:38 pm
Quoting juan calle
well duh but when i want to talk to people about lego and stuff where will i go definitaly not the that troll chat.Its ok if you dont want to go there.

Juan, this continued argument campaign is likely to attach spam attention. Go to the CoT thread "Kaiwa 6", we dealt with the issue quite nicely.

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| August 6, 2012, 9:19 pm
 Group moderator 
Ok I see my previous point was completely lost on you, and since I don't seem to have the authority to lock the thread I'm just going to be blunt.

This is the MOCpages Help group. Therefore unless you need help with something that is happening HERE, this group is NOT the place to discuss it.

So please, no more discussions about neatchat.
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| August 7, 2012, 4:29 am
 Group admin 
Quoting andros tempest
Ok I see my previous point was completely lost on you, and since I don't seem to have the authority to lock the thread I'm just going to be blunt.

This is the MOCpages Help group. Therefore unless you need help with something that is happening HERE, this group is NOT the place to discuss it.

So please, no more discussions about neatchat.


I'll lock it for ya.
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| August 7, 2012, 7:15 am
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