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TO GET RID OF PHAZE WE MUST.....
Post all evidence against him here. All mean comments, all suspect names, all group names he has deleted. We need all the info on him.

I have talked to Sean, he needs this info for him to have a case against phaze. If you are just as mad as I am at phaze, help us, or join my group of Freedom Fighters!
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| September 8, 2009, 7:37 pm
What you must do is get me his homepage(s) and all the comments he's made and post them here. Sean and I are on it. I'll check back here tomorrow and see what you guys have.

~Chris.
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| September 8, 2009, 8:46 pm
That guy has been bothering me in general. I haven't heard any really offensive things from him personally.
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| September 8, 2009, 8:59 pm
Quoting Spencer Pearce
The Phaze cannot be stopped! Sean needs to edit MOCpages so that e-mail addresses can be banned from the site. Then making a new e-mail adress AND new accounts will be too much for him, and he will fall.


Find me his home page and some comments that he's posted and yes... he can and will be stopped if in fact he's doing anything "wrong." Sean and I have discussed it and wee need the info I'm asking for in order to take care of it.

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| September 8, 2009, 9:40 pm
Quoting Chris Phipson

Find me his home page and some comments that he's posted and yes... he can and will be stopped if in fact he's doing anything "wrong." Sean and I have discussed it and wee need the info I'm asking for in order to take care of it.


Will do, I'll have the info here ASAP.

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| September 8, 2009, 9:59 pm
His main account: Phazezorz .

Okay, first off, here is a list of the groups Phaze has destroyed-

-The Quest for a Safe, Clean MOCpages

-He's tried to take over the AOT 3 times and 2 were successful; he deleted 2.

Here are groups he unsuccessfully tried to take over but we stopped him-

-The Artemis Fowl Group
-Army Of The Trinity [A.O.T.]
-The Grand Army of the 592nd
-Lego Star Wars Extremists!
-701st Marine corps

This is just a handfull, there are probably more we don't know about.

Here are some of his known, and suspected accounts-

-Matchstick !
-Commander Hyperion Of the 251st
-Lieutenant Commander Shed
-Skeleton Man
-TicTac Toe
-Darth Bizzel
-alphaZero X
-Gerrard
-Nota Clonetard
-Phazezors .
-Phazeosaurus

He uses teniques like this-

"Do want this guy deleted or not!?!?

I can hack him my dad works for NATO and we have top of the line tech!"

This is a comment he made using another account. He used this ploy to take down The Quest for a Safe, Clean MOCpages.

Here are some sites you may want to visit regarding his rude (which I know is against the rules) comments. The first is one of our members pages, so you may have to look at multiple creations-

-http://mocpages.com/home.php/22527
-http://www.mocpages.com/moc.php/141746


Here is what I say is his final words-

"Why should I, as I have nothing to apologize over.

The groups should've been destroyed.

The comments should have been given

if you take offense to a critiquing comment, then grow a thicker skin."

I leave the choice to you. But I ask you all to ask yourselves this question. What if the comments he has made, the groups he has destroyed, what if all this was done you your child? Or an 8 year old first exploring with legos. How would they feel after getting a comment like that?

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| September 8, 2009, 10:56 pm
we almost got him, I can't wait!
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| September 8, 2009, 11:07 pm
Dang, this guy is a curse to the entire MOCpages...
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| September 9, 2009, 7:29 pm
NO! Don't make Phaze leave! He is just deleting groups that cause drama! He is my friend, I must stand up for him....
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| September 9, 2009, 7:32 pm
Quoting Second Province of the Nation of PCU .
NO! Don't make Phaze leave! He is just deleting groups that cause drama! He is my friend, I must stand up for him....

I' sorry but it's a little late for that...
He's been a nuicance to MOCpages, and has ruined several groups. Most likely, he's using you as an ally
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| September 9, 2009, 7:35 pm
He ain't using anyone unless it is AoT. I am tired of the drama regarding him too. Don't bother him and he WON'T bother you....
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| September 9, 2009, 7:36 pm
I think this may be one of his accounts...
http://www.mocpages.com/home.php/33824
He's put this in several groups where it doesn't belong.
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| September 9, 2009, 7:38 pm
Hey, that's a clonietard.
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| September 9, 2009, 7:40 pm
Quoting Michael Qoyawayma
His main account: Phazezorz...


that's all good information, but I need a link to that page to make sure we have the same guy. Link me and we can handle what needs to be handled.
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| September 9, 2009, 7:42 pm
Nothing needs to be handled. I will tell him to straighten up too. Another thing, we are making a big deal over groups....
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| September 9, 2009, 7:44 pm
Quoting Second Province of the Nation of PCU .
He ain't using anyone unless it is AoT. I am tired of the drama regarding him too. Don't bother him and he WON'T bother you....

HE was the one who started screwing up MOCpages. Now if you don't stop defending him, you may havea similar fate...
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| September 9, 2009, 7:45 pm
Quoting Chris Phipson

that's all good information, but I need a link to that page to make sure we have the same guy. Link me and we can handle what needs to be handled.

link'd http://www.mocpages.com/home.php/34087
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| September 9, 2009, 7:47 pm
What, get my account and email deleted? I want to see you do it. I haven't done anything wrong. Just defending someone over correcting MOCpages.
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| September 9, 2009, 7:47 pm
Quoting Second Province of the Nation of PCU .
What, get my account and email deleted? I want to see you do it. I haven't done anything wrong. Just defending someone over correcting MOCpages.

what do you mean by "get my account and email deleted" that was an accout of phaze?
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| September 9, 2009, 7:50 pm
Quoting Second Province of the Nation of PCU .
What, get my account and email deleted? I want to see you do it. I haven't done anything wrong. Just defending someone over correcting MOCpages.

First of all, Chris's and Sen's job is to correct MOCpages.
Second: I may not have the powr to delete your account, but I can still give you a warning.
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| September 9, 2009, 7:51 pm
Meh, I know that. But I don't see why I am getting threatened...
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| September 9, 2009, 7:52 pm
Quoting Joel Congi
link'd http://www.mocpages.com/home.php/34087


Thank you. Sean and I have both gotten a lot of complaints about this guy. We're looking into it and IF he's doing anything "wrong" aside from just being a pain then the appropriate actions will be taken.
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| September 9, 2009, 7:54 pm
Quoting Second Province of the Nation of PCU .
Meh, I know that. But I don't see why I am getting threatened...

Forgive me if I sounded threatening. This is just a serious deal everybodies going through, and Chris and Sean are having a hard time with it.
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| September 9, 2009, 7:55 pm
Quoting Chris Phipson

Thank you. Sean and I have both gotten a lot of complaints about this guy. We're looking into it and IF he's doing anything "wrong" aside from just being a pain then the appropriate actions will be taken.

The comment from him that I read up there in one of those links was simple, constructive critique. If thats all he's doing (which Im sure it isn't) then he doesnt need any punishment. Plus, I remember he made some huge scene in CFOL... but he didn't try to delete anything. If he's just some really huge annoying critic, then let him.
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| September 9, 2009, 8:01 pm
Quoting Jack Fonchezzz
The comment from him that I read up there in one of those links was simple, constructive critique. If thats all he's doing (which Im sure it isn't) then he doesnt need any punishment. Plus, I remember he made some huge scene in CFOL... but he didn't try to delete anything. If he's just some really huge annoying critic, then let him.

Hey Jack :)
Acctually, he's done a bit more...
Mostly taking over groups and deleting everyone from them. He's doing this at a very fast pace, so we're trying to stop him.
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| September 9, 2009, 8:04 pm
oh. I seee.... sounds like a jerk
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| September 9, 2009, 8:07 pm
Interesting
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| September 9, 2009, 8:07 pm
Phaze doesn't hack...
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| September 9, 2009, 8:07 pm
Quoting Second Province of the Nation of PCU .
Phaze doesn't hack...

Ya Im sure he doesnt. Hes just good at manipulating young minds...
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| September 9, 2009, 8:09 pm
Quoting Jack Fonchezzz
Ya Im sure he doesnt. Hes just good at manipulating young minds...

he doesn't hack, just he says something to make him admin and deletes the group!
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| September 9, 2009, 8:10 pm
Quoting Kevin Wadowski
he doesn't hack, just he says something to make him admin and deletes the group!
I can believe the AOT fell for it when they let phaze take over.

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| September 9, 2009, 8:20 pm
Phaze says this : "Bring it, I am not scared of your ban.."
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| September 9, 2009, 8:21 pm
Quoting Second Province of the Nation of PCU .
Phaze says this : "Bring it, I am not scared of your ban.."
How do you know phaze squirelly?

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| September 9, 2009, 8:24 pm
I have him on Gmail and we are discussing this.
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| September 9, 2009, 8:26 pm
Quoting Second Province of the Nation of PCU .
I have him on Gmail and we are discussing this.
Good luck getting him to stay.

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| September 9, 2009, 8:29 pm
Meh.
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| September 9, 2009, 8:29 pm
Im pretty sure hes going to get deleted
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| September 9, 2009, 8:30 pm
Quoting Barry Sand Cream
Im pretty sure hes going to get deleted

I think so to.
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| September 9, 2009, 8:35 pm
Quoting Kevin Wadowski
I think so to.
I never think i know.

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| September 9, 2009, 8:37 pm
Quoting Barry Sand Cream
Quoting Kevin Wadowski
I think so to.
I never think i know.

I Think I know, but there is not 100% chance that he will be deleted.
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| September 9, 2009, 8:51 pm
Good work guys, you're trying to get a good friend of mine banned. Heroic. Now, aren't there more important things to focus on? Like building, or stopping this site's slow streaks?

Oh wait, none of you are computer programmers or whatnot. Why don't you get Phaze to hack it?


But seriously, this site gets slow sometimes. And the organize your creations button doesn't work.

This isn't a technological error group, is it?
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| September 9, 2009, 9:45 pm
 Group admin 
Quoting Phazezorz .
Alright, let me set things straight.

First off, My comments are merely sharp retorts to responses that lack in proper wording. My comments are merely critiquing mocs that I find lacking. If they take offense to those, then I feel they need a thicker skin.

Second off, I only have This account and Some other one I am deleting as we speak. All those are fakes. Not me. I sw3ar.

Thirdly, Those groups were, as I've stated very so many times, were drama-infested. Some of those groups, I found, were like a vortex, they trapped you in until you were absorbed into the group. I found, from what I saw, most of the people in those groups weren't building. Isn't that the purpose of Mocpages? To show your mocs to the world? Or is it to go nuts over who is going to be the third admin?

One of you here said I don't have the full-on right to change Mocpages, and that is a Valid point.

I'm what I'd call a vigilante. Not a hero, just doing what I see as best. I mean, Sure, maybe what I think is best isn't best, but as I stated above, the only reason I really destroyed those groups was because they were sucking people in.

Two friends are now rival's because of those groups!

Do what you see fit, Ban me if you want. In fact, banning me is the only way to stop all these people going nuts. If you do so-oddly happen to side with me, they'll think I somehow hacked your accounts and am giving myself a free pass.

That's just how I feel they work. Blaming me for quite a few things that I find simply crazy.

But it's not my decision to make, it's Yours, and Mr. Kenny's, and I very well feel you will make the right choice.

If these are my last words on this site, then Farewell. I've had many 3nemies, and can only feel rem0rse for them....

Bai bai...

I agree with many things you've said. I even said in another group "If you get offended by something someone says on the internet.. Geez. I also think Phaze is just giving his opinion on the creations. Not trying to be mean. But you take it as mean for some reason." And Phaze, if you were TRYING to be mean, we'd definitely see the difference. Anyway, I'm with you that these vortex groups are silly and must be put to an end, but by destroying them, you've caused even more chaos. I would have ignored them and let them figure it out for themselves what they had done. Anyway, I agree, the end. And if you're gone after this, see you on flickr.
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| September 9, 2009, 9:56 pm
 Group admin 
Quoting Awesome-o-saurus The Not-So-Great
Good work guys, you're trying to get a good friend of mine banned. Heroic. Now, aren't there more important things to focus on? Like building, or stopping this site's slow streaks?

Oh wait, none of you are computer programmers or whatnot. Why don't you get Phaze to hack it?


But seriously, this site gets slow sometimes. And the organize your creations button doesn't work.

This isn't a technological error group, is it?

I'm not too happy that they're trying to get him banned as well. I'm not sure he considers me a friend, but I see him as somewhat a friend and a nice person. I would prefer it if he wasn't banned. And rather than immediately banning Phaze, Sean could talk with him.
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| September 9, 2009, 9:59 pm
I'm just going to say my piece here, because it's riled me up somethin' fierce the way you've been treating Phaze.

Yes, I said it.

The way YOU have been treating Phaze.

Why do I think like that? Let me tell you.

The reason Phaze has said "that lacks detail" is because that's exactly what he thinks. Is he to blame for stating his opinion? His remarks should be seen by the builder at which they are directed as an encouragement for them to improve their MOCs, not as an encouragement to try and "take down" Phaze!

Phaze says what he says because he WANTS them to improve! It pains him that they build MOCs of such low quality, and in making the posts he's made, he merely informs them of this lack of quality.

I don't see why folks like Spencer and Michael Qoyawama (sorry if that's incorrect spelling) have their undies in a bunch over one man, one kid rather, stating his opinion on the internet.

Yes, as you recall we're on the INTERNET.

And isn't MOCPages a place where MOCs are shown so that they can be improved? What, you mean it's just a place for ten year olds to take pictures of a clone they scribbled on and get drooling comments saying how "kewl" it is?

Perhaps I'm not coming at this from the right direction, but it surprises me how h4rsh and v1c1ous you folks have been at trying to "take down Phaze". The only reason he "d3stroys" YOUR groups is because it is YOUR groups in which YOU, Michael something and Spencer something, who keep posting h4tred of Phaze because you didn't like something he said. It downright pains me to see how much you've done to try and "take him down".

I've said enough, but I hope you've learned a big lesson here.

In case you have any doubts of who I am, I'm a member of a forum known as the Clone Army Builders Guild, registered as 80-0.

Admins, you can delete my account here, but please, do not delete my post, because I think it reflects on a lot of common sense.
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| September 10, 2009, 8:49 am
 Group admin 
Quoting UBERcommadnodued matey, oh!
I'm just going to say my piece here, because it's riled me up somethin' fierce the way you've been treating Phaze.

Yes, I said it.

The way YOU have been treating Phaze.

Why do I think like that? Let me tell you.

The reason Phaze has said "that lacks detail" is because that's exactly what he thinks. Is he to blame for stating his opinion? His remarks should be seen by the builder at which they are directed as an encouragement for them to improve their MOCs, not as an encouragement to try and "take down" Phaze!

Phaze says what he says because he WANTS them to improve! It pains him that they build MOCs of such low quality, and in making the posts he's made, he merely informs them of this lack of quality.

I don't see why folks like Spencer and Michael Qoyawama (sorry if that's incorrect spelling) have their undies in a bunch over one man, one kid rather, stating his opinion on the internet.

Yes, as you recall we're on the INTERNET.

And isn't MOCPages a place where MOCs are shown so that they can be improved? What, you mean it's just a place for ten year olds to take pictures of a clone they scribbled on and get drooling comments saying how "kewl" it is?

Perhaps I'm not coming at this from the right direction, but it surprises me how h4rsh and v1c1ous you folks have been at trying to "take down Phaze". The only reason he "d3stroys" YOUR groups is because it is YOUR groups in which YOU, Michael something and Spencer something, who keep posting h4tred of Phaze because you didn't like something he said. It downright pains me to see how much you've done to try and "take him down".

I've said enough, but I hope you've learned a big lesson here.

In case you have any doubts of who I am, I'm a member of a forum known as the Clone Army Builders Guild, registered as 80-0.

Admins, you can delete my account here, but please, do not delete my post, because I think it reflects on a lot of common sense.

Long comments FTW. Anyway, I read it all and I heartily agree with everything. Some of things I've even already said.
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| September 10, 2009, 9:31 am
Whoa Whoa Whoa. I am not Phaze. I am merely a friend of Phaze.

I strongly have to agree with Matey-Oh/80-0. He was simply giving constructive critiscism, on how to improve your MOCs, and you, feeling offended, thanks to all the other comments simply saying 'cool look at my MOC' and out and attack him.

Second off. He has not hacked in anyway whatsoever. All he simply did is ask to be admin, and, well, you feel for it. He then simply deleted all other members, and then the group. Not really his fault. Just a slight bit like the Nazi-reign of terror in Germany 1930s. Hitler promised them things that weren't true, and then utterly destroyed the country and half the world.

So. Please, stop crying about this big 'Bully' Phaze and get on with life.
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| September 10, 2009, 9:54 am
I am tired of this! Paze does not have to be mean when commenting! for someone who destroys groups because they are not making anything, look who's talking! I don't see a single creation on your page! And I have yet to see you post a Nice comment! I had no problem with you until you took over groups!
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| September 10, 2009, 10:15 am
 Group admin 
Quoting Commander Hyperion Of the 251st
I strongly have to agree with Matey-Oh/80-0. He was simply giving constructive critiscism, on how to improve your MOCs
constructive critiscism,are you kidding me.Someone made a sig fig and rated 1/5 he also rated a MOC on its pictures that were taken with a camera phone.
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| September 10, 2009, 10:18 am
 Group admin 
Quoting Phazezorz .
Quoting Bradley (Fixer)
Quoting Commander Hyperion Of the 251st
I strongly have to agree with Matey-Oh/80-0. He was simply giving constructive critiscism, on how to improve your MOCs
constructive critiscism,are you kidding me.Someone made a sig fig and rated 1/5 he also rated a MOC on its pictures that were taken with a camera phone.
...

And then I went on to detail the problems with the moc.

Michael, just stop. You've given your point like, what, 100 times? It's annoying. We all get it, so just stop.
Not on spencer's sig fig all you said was 1/5 n*t g**d

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| September 10, 2009, 10:31 am
I am surprised that a lot of you are even friends with Phaze. Would you have eve been friends with him if he gave you a comment saying that your work is all off and sucks? I don't think so! Groups are made to have conversations, if you don't like it, leave. Don't delete them cause you have no humility! What do your parents think Phaze? would they support you knowing that you think everything is bad? I don't know why you feel the need to ruin groups people have worked so hard on. How about if I came and took over one of your groups? Would you be happy? You are the biggest hippocrite I've ever seen! Don't ever criticise our work when you have absolutly NOTHING to show for yourself! You are a constant thorn in our sides, and you must be removed! You will never hurt feelings or destroy another group someone has spent so much time on!

And you, Phazes friends and allies. You must have your head on backwards if you think Phaze is simply Stating his opinion. He has given no helpful advice in them, he only says what he thinks is wrong with it, and not nicely either!

Phaze must be removed....
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| September 10, 2009, 10:35 am
 Group admin 
Quoting Phazezorz .
That wasn't me.
I do have to say I am somewhat agreeing with you when you said groups take alot of time.I see that now because Michael Sloper is leaving MOCpages.when all he had to do is leave the groups,POOF no more drama

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| September 10, 2009, 10:35 am
 Group admin 
Quoting Phazezorz .
Quoting Bradley (Fixer)
Quoting Phazezorz .
That wasn't me.
I do have to say I am somewhat agreeing with you when you said groups take alot of time.I see that now because Michael Sloper is leaving MOCpages.when all he had to do is leave the groups,POOF no more drama
And this only Furthers my point.


Because of groups, people are leaving mocpages!

Is that what we all want?

If it is, then go right ahead with it.
The solution is quite simple,all you have to do is A.don't do anything in groups or B.leave all of the drama groups or all.

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| September 10, 2009, 10:43 am
Quoting Michael Qoyawayma
I am tired of this! Paze does not have to be mean when commenting! for someone who destroys groups because they are not making anything, look who's talking! I don't see a single creation on your page! And I have yet to see you post a Nice comment! I had no problem with you until you took over groups!


He doesn't have to be nice if he doesn't feel he can say anything nice honestly without lying about it.

The fact is, you h4te Phaze's honesty. He tells people the blunt truth about their work, and you dislike it. Either grow some thicker skin or let Phaze do what he wants.

The only reason you're calling Sean and co. in on this is because you took offense at your idea of a "me4n post". The only reason Phaze took over groups was because you were tr4shing his good name there and constantly trying to get him d3l3ted. You started the group nonsense by trying to destr0y Phaze; he responded by creating a m3ss of his own.

I want to conclude with this: The next time you say you like an MOC, think about. Think long and hard about it. Do you REALLY in your heart of hearts like it, or are you just gaffeing so you can get away with being accepted in the community?

When Phaze made those posts, if he said he liked it, he would've been lying because he DID NOT LIKE IT.
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| September 10, 2009, 11:48 am
Exactly. The whole point of MOCpages is too share your creations and learn how to improve them. If you always get told that your creations are awesome, but in reality, they are not, then you'll never improve, or learn new techniques. It isn't insulting if he says you need to re-work it, or he says he doesn't like it, it's just his personal opinion. Welcome to the Internet. People say what they think.
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| September 10, 2009, 12:49 pm
So, why am I Phaze?
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| September 10, 2009, 1:23 pm
Quoting Phazezorz .
These guys hit it right on the nail. All I was doing was simply giving some critique, and you all exploded about it.

Still though... If you think a group has too much drama, and it's bothering you. Either tell Sean/Moderator or just ignore it. Besides... groups rise, and then die later on. If it looks like it will never die down... just wait and see it fall. This will happen with everything.
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| September 10, 2009, 3:56 pm
Quoting Michael Qoyawayma
His main account: Phazezorz .

Okay, first off, here is a list of the groups Phaze has destroyed-

-The Quest for a Safe, Clean MOCpages

-He's tried to take over the AOT 3 times and 2 were successful; he deleted 2.

Here are groups he unsuccessfully tried to take over but we stopped him-

-The Artemis Fowl Group
-Army Of The Trinity [A.O.T.]
-The Grand Army of the 592nd
-Lego Star Wars Extremists!
-701st Marine corps

This is just a handfull, there are probably more we don't know about.

Here are some of his known, and suspected accounts-

-Matchstick !
-Commander Hyperion Of the 251st
-Lieutenant Commander Shed
-Skeleton Man
-TicTac Toe
-Darth Bizzel
-alphaZero X
-Gerrard
-Nota Clonetard
-Phazezors .
-Phazeosaurus

He uses teniques like this-

"Do want this guy deleted or not!?!?

I can hack him my dad works for NATO and we have top of the line tech!"

This is a comment he made using another account. He used this ploy to take down The Quest for a Safe, Clean MOCpages.

Here are some sites you may want to visit regarding his rude (which I know is against the rules) comments. The first is one of our members pages, so you may have to look at multiple creations-

-http://mocpages.com/home.php/22527
-http://www.mocpages.com/moc.php/141746


Here is what I say is his final words-

"Why should I, as I have nothing to apologize over.

The groups should've been destroyed.

The comments should have been given

if you take offense to a critiquing comment, then grow a thicker skin."

I leave the choice to you. But I ask you all to ask yourselves this question. What if the comments he has made, the groups he has destroyed, what if all this was done you your child? Or an 8 year old first exploring with legos. How would they feel after getting a comment like that?






WHAT???!?!?!? HE TRIED TO TAKE OVER LEGO STAR WARS EXTREMISTS! I MADE THAT GROUP!!!!!
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| September 10, 2009, 4:04 pm
Quoting PA ND A .
Oh noez! teh Phazorz!!1111
Well, he is only 12, and he is one of my friends, he is just having some fun. No drastic measures needed.





wow! PHAZE IS ONLY 12?????
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| September 10, 2009, 4:07 pm
Quoting Cody Carrigan




wow! PHAZE IS ONLY 12?????
Ya we do need to take action to this it doesn't matter if he 12 or 21 he is destroying groups which is not cool.

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| September 10, 2009, 4:11 pm
Quoting UBERcommadnodued matey, oh!
I'm just going to say my piece here, because it's riled me up somethin' fierce the way you've been treating Phaze.

Yes, I said it.

The way YOU have been treating Phaze.

Why do I think like that? Let me tell you.

The reason Phaze has said "that lacks detail" is because that's exactly what he thinks. Is he to blame for stating his opinion? His remarks should be seen by the builder at which they are directed as an encouragement for them to improve their MOCs, not as an encouragement to try and "take down" Phaze!

Phaze says what he says because he WANTS them to improve! It pains him that they build MOCs of such low quality, and in making the posts he's made, he merely informs them of this lack of quality.

I don't see why folks like Spencer and Michael Qoyawama (sorry if that's incorrect spelling) have their undies in a bunch over one man, one kid rather, stating his opinion on the internet.

Yes, as you recall we're on the INTERNET.

And isn't MOCPages a place where MOCs are shown so that they can be improved? What, you mean it's just a place for ten year olds to take pictures of a clone they scribbled on and get drooling comments saying how "kewl" it is?

Perhaps I'm not coming at this from the right direction, but it surprises me how h4rsh and v1c1ous you folks have been at trying to "take down Phaze". The only reason he "d3stroys" YOUR groups is because it is YOUR groups in which YOU, Michael something and Spencer something, who keep posting h4tred of Phaze because you didn't like something he said. It downright pains me to see how much you've done to try and "take him down".

I've said enough, but I hope you've learned a big lesson here.

In case you have any doubts of who I am, I'm a member of a forum known as the Clone Army Builders Guild, registered as 80-0.

Admins, you can delete my account here, but please, do not delete my post, because I think it reflects on a lot of common sense.






LOL! THIER UNDIES IN A BUNCH! HAHAHAHAHAAHH!
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| September 10, 2009, 4:12 pm
Quoting PA ND A .
Wah, wah! Get over it....make a new one.




no he didn't take it it's still there. he tried to though....
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| September 10, 2009, 4:15 pm
Quoting Phazezorz .
These guys hit it right on the nail. All I was doing was simply giving some critique, and you all exploded about it.

still every sucessful group has a bit of droma but it's worth it, and Ive seen you destroy groups with no drama what so ever. you can also tell your opinion on moc with out CRITICISING IT! tell how to improve rather then tell it's horriable and hurting their feelings. I'm not saying your bad but what your doing needs to SPOT, and michel is saying what he's saying because he cares!
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| September 10, 2009, 4:16 pm
Quoting Off The Hook Productions
Quoting Cody Carrigan




wow! PHAZE IS ONLY 12?????
Ya we do need to take action to this it doesn't matter if he 12 or 21 he is destroying groups which is not cool.





yeah, but gee, I thought he was like 14 or 15.
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| September 10, 2009, 4:16 pm
Quoting PA ND A .
Wah, wah! Get over it....make a new one.

yah rader then have a great sucessful group left make a new terriable group that goes dead the for first day.
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| September 10, 2009, 4:17 pm
well phaze mocpages is also for chat, not only lego (but lego is still the biggest part)
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| September 10, 2009, 4:37 pm
If you think its all about creations phaze, then why dont you have any posted?
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| September 10, 2009, 4:56 pm
Where are those new creations?
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| September 10, 2009, 4:59 pm
Quoting Phazezorz .
I now restat what I've said for the hundreth time, as I can see very few understand it...

The groups I destroyed were destroyed because they sucked you in. They kept you from building, and many have admitted to that.

Mocpages main focus is Lego. Not anything Else.


I have one question for you. Why didn't you just... leave the group rather than taking it upon yourself to "destroy" it?
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| September 10, 2009, 5:06 pm
Quoting Phazezorz .
I'd call it interrupting upon the privacy for what I saw as the better of the people.

did you bother to read my speech?

well you seem to be a good writer
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| September 10, 2009, 5:09 pm
I agree with phaze that lego creations should be the main focusof a group, i still think he has no right to delete groups for that reason. If you dont like drama pools DONT GET INVOLVED. You dont have to delete the group.
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| September 10, 2009, 5:11 pm
Quoting Barry Sand Cream
I agree with phaze that lego creations should be the main focusof a group, i still think he has no right to delete groups for that reason. If you dont like drama pools DON GET INVOLVED. You dont have to delete the group.

well I thought chat is the main thing in a group, but I guess different groups for different things. You have to agree with that. and I agree with you on what you said.
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| September 10, 2009, 5:13 pm
I think that the groups took away from MOCpages...I wouldn't ban phaze. He's doing something to try and help MOCpages...Get rid of groups.
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| September 10, 2009, 5:13 pm
This is turning into a drama pool now... Is someone gonna take over, and delete it? Nope. Everybodies to busy argueing.
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| September 10, 2009, 5:14 pm
Quoting Phazezorz .
And I shall retort:

You can either save the people, or watch the people lose what is there's and have no one to blame but themselves.

I feel, that just letting it go was too...boring, in a sense. They weren't going to stop, that's the point. Many,MANY people told them to, and they didn't listen. So, other methods needed to go into effect.

you are the one who destroyed "what's theirs"
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| September 10, 2009, 5:14 pm
Quoting Phazezorz .
And I shall retort:

You can either save the people, or watch the people lose what is there's and have no one to blame but themselves.

I feel, that just letting it go was too...boring, in a sense. They weren't going to stop, that's the point. Many,MANY people told them to, and they didn't listen. So, other methods needed to go into effect.

So what you said there is that you would rather have your own satisfaction then let people do what they want and have THEIR own satisfaction?

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| September 10, 2009, 5:15 pm
Quoting Phazezorz .
Not get rid of groups per se, just the ones that have avoided Mocpages true purpose of the groups.

That's close enough...
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| September 10, 2009, 5:15 pm
Quoting Phazezorz .
Not get rid of groups per se, just the ones that have avoided Mocpages true purpose of the groups.

aperently people like you are starting drama pools, like this.
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| September 10, 2009, 5:16 pm
Quoting Barry Sand Cream
So what you said there is that you would rather have your own satisfaction then let people do what they want and have THEIR own satisfaction?


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| September 10, 2009, 5:18 pm
Quoting Phazezorz .
Your joking, right? Way before the groups we had all this stuff. And it worked so much better.

Still with you...
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| September 10, 2009, 5:18 pm
Quoting Phazezorz .
Yes, but I figured it was good for them. Maybe since the group was gone, they'd spend more time doing things other than this. What's theirs very well so is theirs, but sometimes it gets too big for them to handle.

yes but groups can be importain for some people, like lego star wars creations, aot, 701st legion.
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| September 10, 2009, 5:18 pm
Quoting Phazezorz .
Yes, but I figured it was good for them. Maybe since the group was gone, they'd spend more time doing things other than this. What's theirs very well so is theirs, but sometimes it gets too big for them to handle.

yes but groups can be importain for some people, like lego star wars creations, aot, 701st legion.
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| September 10, 2009, 5:18 pm
Quoting Phazezorz .
Many people in those groups didn't like the Drama, that's why they wanted it to stop. But it wasn't going to! So I introduced some force.

every great group has some drama, but is worth it to be in a great group.
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| September 10, 2009, 5:20 pm
Quoting Phazezorz .
Many people in those groups didn't like the Drama, that's why they wanted it to stop. But it wasn't going to! So I introduced some force.
Most of the people in the groups DID LIKE IT. Besides if they didn't like the drama they could of just LEFT THE GRUOP

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| September 10, 2009, 5:22 pm
and comments phaze (i say this in the nices of ways) why must you be so criticising.
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| September 10, 2009, 5:24 pm
Quoting Barry Sand Cream
Quoting Phazezorz .
Many people in those groups didn't like the Drama, that's why they wanted it to stop. But it wasn't going to! So I introduced some force.
Most of the people in the groups DID LIKE IT. Besides if they didn't like the drama they could of just LEFT THE GRUOP


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| September 10, 2009, 5:25 pm
Quoting Phazezorz .
Because if I didn't, no one would improve. Look at a moc. How many comments are actually criticizing? How many just say 'Kewl!"? That is why I give critiquing comments.





some of those people are little kids phaze! you're hurting their feelings....
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| September 10, 2009, 5:27 pm
Quoting Phazezorz .
Because if I didn't, no one would improve. Look at a moc. How many comments are actually criticizing? How many just say 'Kewl!"? That is why I give critiquing comments.

you can just say Nice but (say what to improve) , insted for hurting their feelings :(
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| September 10, 2009, 5:27 pm
I dont want you to leave phaze. Seriously just stop the hacking and the destruction. if you want the old mocpages you dont have to be destructive.
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| September 10, 2009, 5:28 pm
Quoting Phazezorz .
Because if I didn't, no one would improve. Look at a moc. How many comments are actually criticizing? How many just say 'Kewl!"? That is why I give critiquing comments.





some of those people are little kids phaze! you're hurting their feelings....
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| September 10, 2009, 5:28 pm
Quoting Phazezorz .
And I and my supporters see you as wrong..

See how that works?

It's opinions, Pad, Opinions.


And ALL of you guys, both sides of the argument, are just adding to the drama. I noticed Phaze didn't respond to my question which says that he's pretty sure I was right.

No then... watch how easy this issue is to deal with.

1: Whoever the admin of this group is, if you don't want the "Phaze" drama, then remove him from the group.

2: Phaze isn't doing anything really "wrong" on mocpages (aside from being a general pain and not posting any creations).

3: Phaze isn't going to post any creations for two reasons. 1: He enjoys the drama he's causing too much. 2: IF he posted, everyone here would spam the heck out of his creations no matter what it was.

4: Here's how you deal with a group that's become kiddie drama overrun...

Good luck to you all and I hope you grow up a bit and stop pestering each other (that's for ALL of you, not just Phaze)

*leaves group.
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| September 10, 2009, 5:28 pm
Quoting Phazezorz .
And how many groups did I destroy? 5. How many groups are there? Thousands.

The number is a mere fraction of the number of the groups on this site.

but only pew are still active and not dead (wich most 90% are)
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| September 10, 2009, 5:29 pm
Quoting Chris Phipson

And ALL of you guys, both sides of the argument, are just adding to the drama. I noticed Phaze didn't respond to my question which says that he's pretty sure I was right.

No then... watch how easy this issue is to deal with.

1: Whoever the admin of this group is, if you don't want the "Phaze" drama, then remove him from the group.

2: Phaze isn't doing anything really "wrong" on mocpages (aside from being a general pain and not posting any creations).

3: Phaze isn't going to post any creations for two reasons. 1: He enjoys the drama he's causing too much. 2: IF he posted, everyone here would spam the heck out of his creations no matter what it was.

4: Here's how you deal with a group that's become kiddie drama overrun...

Good luck to you all and I hope you grow up a bit and stop pestering each other (that's for ALL of you, not just Phaze)

*leaves group.




bye!
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| September 10, 2009, 5:30 pm
Can you guys move this to a chatroom or something? This is really clogging up the site, for other people who actually want to uload new creations.
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| September 10, 2009, 5:30 pm
what about hurt ful comments chris, that's wrong.
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| September 10, 2009, 5:30 pm
Quoting Barry Sand Cream
I dont want you to leave phaze. Seriously just stop the hacking and the destruction. if you want the old mocpages you dont have to be destructive.


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| September 10, 2009, 5:31 pm
Quoting Phazezorz .
I would simply like to retort that my comments, I found, weren't hurtful. As I and others have said, if you take offense to my comments, then grow a thicker skin.

not everyone has the same "skin" as you
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| September 10, 2009, 5:33 pm
Quoting Phazezorz .
I would simply like to retort that my comments, I found, weren't hurtful. As I and others have said, if you take offense to my comments, then grow a thicker skin.





ugh, you have you're own species by now, phaze. the annoying thing.


and can you just leave mocpages already? you aren't doing us any good.
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| September 10, 2009, 5:34 pm
Quoting Phazezorz .
You still think I'm hacking? Really?
No but dude thats not what im trying to get at. If you want the old mocpages you dont have to go around deleting a few groups.

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| September 10, 2009, 5:35 pm
Quoting Phazezorz .
Yes, and they don't have to. My comments were merely my personal opinion. No need to say they were 'hurtful'. In fact, I could say your comments saying my mocs are 'kewl' are hurtful unto me.

what do you mean by unto?
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| September 10, 2009, 5:36 pm
Quoting Barry Sand Cream
Quoting Phazezorz .
You still think I'm hacking? Really?
No but dude thats not what im trying to get at. If you want the old mocpages you dont have to go around deleting a few groups.


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| September 10, 2009, 5:38 pm
Quoting Phazezorz .
Unto-oneself. I'm pretty much saying I could say your comments that are only saying 'kewl' are hurtful to me.

well im still saying what's unhurtful to you may be hurtful to others.
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| September 10, 2009, 5:38 pm
Quoting Phazezorz .
Quoting Cody Carrigan




ugh, you have you're own species by now, phaze. the annoying thing.


and can you just leave mocpages already? you aren't doing us any good.
I am very much so not going to leave. And, again, I could retort that your not doing any good by just simply saying things look 'kewl'.




yes I am! I'm saying my opinion! if I think soemthing looks cool I can say that, I don't have to criticise and break down the person who built it unlike you!
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| September 10, 2009, 5:39 pm
Quoting Phazezorz .
And I'm saying it shouldn't be.

Hello..... Phaze.
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| September 10, 2009, 5:40 pm
Quoting Phazezorz .
And I'm saying it shouldn't be.

You need to think more about others.
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| September 10, 2009, 5:40 pm
Quoting Barry Sand Cream
Quoting Phazezorz .
You still think I'm hacking? Really?
No but dude thats not what im trying to get at. If you want the old mocpages you dont have to go around deleting a few groups.


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| September 10, 2009, 5:40 pm
Good luck phaze keep building. dont leave i also hope we get the old mocpages back. Good luck. Start posting your new creations soon.

~ Barry
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| September 10, 2009, 5:43 pm
Quoting Phazezorz .
Yes...?

If you could see how I'm looking at my computer as I read these comments even you would bee scared. G3t 4 l1fe.
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| September 10, 2009, 5:44 pm
Quoting Phazezorz .
Yes but you see, what good is it doing? The least you could do is detail why you think it's kewl, along with the problems you have with it.




maybe I don't have problems with EVERY moc I come across. unlike you!
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| September 10, 2009, 5:44 pm
Quoting PA ND A .
n0 uz!!!

IDK W T F that ment, and I d0n't c4r3.
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| September 10, 2009, 5:49 pm
Quoting Phazezorz .
I doubt it. And i would, but I have virtually no friends that I contact on a daily basis that aren't online.

That's because n0 0ne l1k3s y0u.
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| September 10, 2009, 5:54 pm
I can't freakin take this anymore. I gotta leave this group.
*accidently clicks on pizza hut add*
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| September 10, 2009, 6:04 pm
 Group admin 
Quoting Phazezorz .
Yes, and Sloper is also leaving, because of the groups and the Drama.

Because of those groups, Sloper and Sword are r1vals. They used to be great friends.
They bacame friends again.

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| September 10, 2009, 6:17 pm
Quoting Phazezorz .
You'd be very surprised, Hawk, I have more interweb friends than you think..

I d0n't c4r3.
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| September 10, 2009, 6:42 pm
know arguing here!, only disscussion
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| September 10, 2009, 6:46 pm
Quoting Phazezorz .
And it is with that statement that I don't care about you, Blade.

Go b4rk up a tr33.
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| September 10, 2009, 6:46 pm
Quoting Blade-Hawk .
Go b4rk up a tr33.

eh ehemmmm
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| September 10, 2009, 6:48 pm
Quoting Kevin Wadowski
eh ehemmmm

Hhhmmmm...?
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| September 10, 2009, 6:50 pm
Quoting Blade-Hawk .
Hhhmmmm...?

:)
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| September 10, 2009, 6:52 pm
Quoting Kevin Wadowski
:)

:] ?
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| September 10, 2009, 6:52 pm
Quoting Blade-Hawk .
:] ?

wow over 200 comments on this topic.
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| September 10, 2009, 6:53 pm
Quoting Kevin Wadowski
wow over 200 comments on this topic.

Lol.
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| September 10, 2009, 6:54 pm
I'm tired. Positively TIRED of seeing all this! Yes, even ME! A supporter of Phaze!

Now hear this, all you naysayers against Phaze: What would you do without Phaze and people like Phaze? Your Lego MOCs would gradually get w0rse and w0rse, and not get better at ALL.

Listen carefully, and I mean CAREFULLY to what I'm saying here:

Let's say there are ten people in a room with Legos, and one person builds something, and the other nine people tell the builder they like it.

What if the model is a pudd1e of multicolored bricks thrown together with no creativity or quality at all? It's clearly an 4wful MOC. Why say it's nice if you can clearly see it is NOT a nice MOC?

Phaze says he dislikes MOCs because he dislikes them.

He DOES TELL PEOPLE HOW TO IMPROVE THEM! Here's a few examples:

Once he said in regards to one of Spencer's MOCs: Lacks greebles (insert "neg4tive" remarks).

There, he told him what to do.

Here's another example:

"lacks a story/plot"

He told him what to add: a plot/story.

You see, you, when ranting angrily against Phaze you forget that he is entirely right.

I d4re you, ANY of you, to ask your well-meaning questions to ME, and I will answer them. Phaze deserves a break; call me his spokesperson for now.
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| September 10, 2009, 7:01 pm
Quoting eighty oh
I'm tired. Positively TIRED of seeing all this! Yes, even ME! A supporter of Phaze!

Now hear this, all you naysayers against Phaze: What would you do without Phaze and people like Phaze? Your Lego MOCs would gradually get w0rse and w0rse, and not get better at ALL.

Listen carefully, and I mean CAREFULLY to what I'm saying here:

Let's say there are ten people in a room with Legos, and one person builds something, and the other nine people tell the builder they like it.

What if the model is a pudd1e of multicolored bricks thrown together with no creativity or quality at all? It's clearly an 4wful MOC. Why say it's nice if you can clearly see it is NOT a nice MOC?

Phaze says he dislikes MOCs because he dislikes them.

He DOES TELL PEOPLE HOW TO IMPROVE THEM! Here's a few examples:

Once he said in regards to one of Spencer's MOCs: Lacks greebles (insert "neg4tive" remarks).

There, he told him what to do.

Here's another example:

"lacks a story/plot"

He told him what to add: a plot/story.

You see, you, when ranting angrily against Phaze you forget that he is entirely right.

I d4re you, ANY of you, to ask your well-meaning questions to ME, and I will answer them. Phaze deserves a break; call me his spokesperson for now.

people not like phaze will still say how to improve just not is such a MEAN way.
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| September 10, 2009, 7:04 pm
Who cares how nicely he says it? He can say it however he likes. Ever heard of that strange little thing called "free speech"?
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| September 10, 2009, 7:09 pm
Quoting eighty oh
Who cares how nicely he says it? He can say it however he likes. Ever heard of that strange little thing called "free speech"?

have you ever seen this by a chance http://mocpages.com/help/review_rules.php thats a rule (gasp)
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| September 10, 2009, 7:13 pm
Quoting Blade-Hawk .
Go b4rk up a tr33.


Dude, what the function? Do you really need to censor bark and tree? Or don't, for that matter?

@Everyone else: You're honestly are wasting time here yelling at Phaze, instead of trying to improve your MOCs so he won't leave "rude" comments on them?

*shakes head slowly*

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| September 10, 2009, 7:15 pm
omg i have to read all tat seriously if he needs some good info it has to be shorted in my thought
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| September 10, 2009, 7:18 pm
Here I quote from it:

"Because free speech is the right to stand in your house and say what you want. It's not the right to go over someone else's house and act rud3 and vulg4r..."

Phaze hasn't been "rud3 and vulg4r" at all.

People need to learn that not everyone in the world will love what you accomplish. Take a look at politics for pete's sakes! Two party system! PEOPLE DISAGREE DAILY ABOUT POLITICS. One side thinks they're right, the other thinks they're right. One side thinks the MOC's cool, another thinks it could be better.
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| September 10, 2009, 7:18 pm
Quoting eighty oh
Here I quote from it:

"Because free speech is the right to stand in your house and say what you want. It's not the right to go over someone else's house and act rud3 and vulg4r..."
ur right its freedom of speech something like tat
Phaze hasn't been "rud3 and vulg4r" at all.

People need to learn that not everyone in the world will love what you accomplish. Take a look at politics for pete's sakes! Two party system! PEOPLE DISAGREE DAILY ABOUT POLITICS. One side thinks they're right, the other thinks they're right. One side thinks the MOC's cool, another thinks it could be better.


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| September 10, 2009, 7:21 pm
Fine, Here is My final word. Unlike you phaze I mean FINAL. I can't say I'm pleased that the Mocpages admin won't do anything. So here goes. I will never interact with you again. Anytime you talk in a conversation, I will ignore you. Anytime you join a group, I will have you removed. Whenever you try to trick someone with your words, I will warn them. From here forward, I will shun you. You will never be heard from again as long as I'm concerned.

To anyone who will join me in fighting unrest and destruction, I urge you to join me at my group Freedom Fighters. I urge you to join me in shunning Phaze....

Adiu Phaze.... hope our paths never cross again.
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| September 10, 2009, 7:22 pm
Quoting Michael Qoyawayma
Fine, Here is My final word. Unlike you phaze I mean FINAL. I can't say I'm pleased that the Mocpages admin won't do anything. So here goes. I will never interact with you again. Anytime you talk in a conversation, I will ignore you. Anytime you join a group, I will have you removed. Whenever you try to trick someone with your words, I will warn them. From here forward, I will shun you. You will never be heard from again as long as I'm concerned.

To anyone who will join me in fighting unrest and destruction, I urge you to join me at my group Freedom Fighters. I urge you to join me in shunning Phaze....

Adiu Phaze.... hope our paths never cross again.


I'll join your group; I'd like to discuss this to a further detail if you don't mind. :)
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| September 10, 2009, 7:25 pm
Quoting Michael Qoyawayma
Fine, Here is My final word. Unlike you phaze I mean FINAL. I can't say I'm pleased that the Mocpages admin won't do anything. So here goes. I will never interact with you again. Anytime you talk in a conversation, I will ignore you. Anytime you join a group, I will have you removed. Whenever you try to trick someone with your words, I will warn them. From here forward, I will shun you. You will never be heard from again as long as I'm concerned.

To anyone who will join me in fighting unrest and destruction, I urge you to join me at my group Freedom Fighters. I urge you to join me in shunning Phaze....

Adiu Phaze.... hope our paths never cross again.


Freedom fighters? Freedom fighters are generally outnumbered and fighting against the masses. In the against Phaze case, you are on the side of the masses, taking your fight against one guy. A more suitable name would be the SS, or maybe the Red Army.

BTW, what is "Adiu" mean? I take it it means good bye, but what langauge?
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| September 10, 2009, 7:27 pm
It's *Adieu*, and it's from the Frogs.
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| September 10, 2009, 7:28 pm
Quoting eighty oh
It's *Adieu*, and it's from the Frogs.


Ah, I see. Never heard of the Frogs, though.
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| September 10, 2009, 7:30 pm
OK, fine. I hate using the actual word, but Frogs = French. :P
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| September 10, 2009, 7:32 pm
Quoting eighty oh
Here I quote from it:

"Because free speech is the right to stand in your house and say what you want. It's not the right to go over someone else's house and act rud3 and vulg4r..."

Phaze hasn't been "rud3 and vulg4r" at all.

People need to learn that not everyone in the world will love what you accomplish. Take a look at politics for pete's sakes! Two party system! PEOPLE DISAGREE DAILY ABOUT POLITICS. One side thinks they're right, the other thinks they're right. One side thinks the MOC's cool, another thinks it could be better.

tactonaly theirs free speach in the contry you live in (I think that's the U.S.) but the internet and this website is international, there's people from all over teh word here.
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| September 10, 2009, 7:35 pm
Quoting eighty oh
It's *Adieu*, and it's from the Frogs.

It might be a mis spelled adios, goodbye in spanish.
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| September 10, 2009, 7:37 pm
Quoting Phazezorz .
Yes but Free Speech still applies.

yeh I have to agree to that, I was just stating the facts.
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| September 10, 2009, 7:38 pm
Free Speech applies durned near everywhere, so drop that nonsensical excuse.
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| September 10, 2009, 7:48 pm
Quoting eighty oh
Free Speech applies durned near everywhere, so drop that nonsensical excuse.

not in some contries.
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| September 10, 2009, 7:51 pm
Quoting Kevin Wadowski
not in some contries.


Those are generally the ones with no internet. Syria blocks most sites, I think...
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| September 10, 2009, 7:57 pm
Quoting eighty oh
Free Speech applies durned near everywhere, so drop that nonsensical excuse.

your and phazes exuses don't make sence to ANYONE, and what I say are not ecuses, i just wan't to say that bacause that's a fact. Try to explain you exuse.
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| September 10, 2009, 7:59 pm
Quoting Kevin Wadowski
your and phazes exuses don't make sence to ANYONE, and what I say are not ecuses, i just wan't to say that bacause that's a fact. Try to explain you exuse.


Tell me an excuse that doesn't make "sence" (PLEASE use a spellchecker) do "ANYONE".
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| September 10, 2009, 8:00 pm
Quoting Awesome-o-saurus The Not-So-Great

Those are generally the ones with no internet. Syria blocks most sites, I think...

yeh and most contry that didn't have free speach have it know ex China, poland, and most communist contries if they are still communist or not any more (like poland).
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| September 10, 2009, 8:01 pm
Quoting Kevin Wadowski
yeh and most contry that didn't have free speach have it know ex China, poland, and most communist contries if they are still communist or not any more (like poland).


Just give them time, the Iron Curtain will fall (unlike the Steel Curtain, he he he... Wait, you're not in the COP, are you?).
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| September 10, 2009, 8:02 pm
Quoting eighty oh

Tell me an excuse that doesn't make "sence" (PLEASE use a spellchecker) do "ANYONE".

why tell you an excuse that doesn't make sence?
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| September 10, 2009, 8:03 pm
Quoting Awesome-o-saurus The Not-So-Great

Just give them time, the Iron Curtain will fall (unlike the Steel Curtain, he he he... Wait, you're not in the COP, are you?).

no...
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| September 10, 2009, 8:04 pm
Quoting Kevin Wadowski
why tell you an excuse that doesn't make sence?


You say I make excuses that don't make sense. I don't believe I've made one that makes no sense, so perhaps you can point out to me an excuse I've made that doesn't make sense.
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| September 10, 2009, 8:06 pm
Quoting eighty oh

You say I make excuses that don't make sense. I don't believe I've made one that makes no sense, so perhaps you can point out to me an excuse I've made that doesn't make sense.

how you think it's ok to criticise peoples creaions.
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| September 10, 2009, 8:09 pm
Quoting Kevin Wadowski
how you think it's ok to criticise peoples creaions.


I think it's ok. You know why? Telling someone that they don't have a lot of detail prompts them to add more detail. Telling someone it's awsum!!1!1!!1!1 doesn't prompt them to do anytihng other than continue at their standard.
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| September 10, 2009, 8:11 pm
I want you to tell me why it's WRONG to criticize creations.
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| September 10, 2009, 8:13 pm
Quoting Awesome-o-saurus The Not-So-Great

I think it's ok. You know why? Telling someone that they don't have a lot of detail prompts them to add more detail. Telling someone it's awsum!!1!1!!1!1 doesn't prompt them to do anytihng other than continue at their standard.

yes, saying to improve is imprtaint but really can anyone do it politly ex "nice tank, it you use some more details but looks good anyways keep building!" or "This was a tank? how was I supose to tell that!". see wait I mean
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| September 10, 2009, 8:15 pm
Quoting eighty oh
I want you to tell me why it's WRONG to criticize creations.

agenst mocpgages rules, hurts their feelings, rude.
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| September 10, 2009, 8:16 pm
Quoting PA ND A .
Agreed. Something like "Cool." ain't gonna cut it. Now, "Pretty nice! Could use some greebles on the front, and a cheese possibly?". That is a good comment.

That's what I mean!
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| September 10, 2009, 8:17 pm
Quoting Kevin Wadowski
yes, saying to improve is imprtaint but really can anyone do it politly ex "nice tank, it you use some more details but looks good anyways keep building!" or "This was a tank? how was I supose to tell that!". see wait I meac



No, I don't see what you me4n. If I don't think it's nice, should I lie and say it's nice when I don't think it's nice? HMM?
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| September 10, 2009, 8:17 pm
Quoting Kevin Wadowski
yes, saying to improve is imprtaint but really can anyone do it politly ex "nice tank, it you use some more details but looks good anyways keep building!" or "This was a tank? how was I supose to tell that!". see wait I mean


That second example wasn't criticism, it was an insult. I didn't see Phaze insulting anyone like that, I saw him giving his honest critique. If honesty is wrong these days, I wonder what the world is coming too.
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| September 10, 2009, 8:20 pm
That's just it, AWE. Obama can lie left and right, so also we have to lie on MOCPages in order to follow the rules. It's just total BS.

To continue the topic, please, do it in another topic, preferably the one I started; the length of this one's doing a number on the machine.
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| September 10, 2009, 8:22 pm
Quoting Awesome-o-saurus The Not-So-Great

That second example wasn't criticism, it was an insult. I didn't see Phaze insulting anyone like that, I saw him giving his honest critique. If honesty is wrong these days, I wonder what the world is coming too.

I've seen him criticise a couple of times, like here (there's worst but can't find them) http://mocpages.com/moc.php/150329
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| September 10, 2009, 8:25 pm
Quoting PA ND A .
Agreed. Something like "Cool." ain't gonna cut it. Now, "Pretty nice! Could use some greebles on the front, and a cheese possibly?". That is a good comment.

Read this comment by phaze:http://www.mocpages.com/moc.php/141746
There's NOTHING wrong with this comment! Is there? No. He's using something called CONSTRUCTIVE CRITISIM. It's a good type of critism, saying what's wrong with it, and how he can fix it. He's saying to add a little more pieces, and to make it more believable, and yes, I admit that I'm a hypocrite, yet phaze is doing exactly what MOCpages says to do here: add positive comments, if you say that it's not that great, say why, and how the builder can make it better. He did all of that. He made a great comment.
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| September 10, 2009, 8:29 pm
Here's what he said:

"Are you kidding me? There are too many studs, it's boxy, no greebs, and it just looks off."

There, he said it needs less studs, a less boxy look, and greebles. He ended that with his opinion that it looks off. Nothing rule-breaking there.

"Even still, you could take better pics."

Nothing rule-breaking here, or rud3 for that matter.

"Dude, everyone uses a Camera, and they're pics are better than this."

Yup, nothing rule-breaking here. Everyone DOES use a camera, and their pics ARE in fact a lot better than this.

"Dude, better pics naooo"

Here he nicely asks for better pictures; nothing rule-breaking.

NOW LOOK AT THIS; THIS IS SPENCER'S RESPONSE TO PHAZE'S FIRST POST:

"I'm using a camera so s|-||_|t |_|p naooo!"

Spencer immaturely bursts out saying SH|_|T UP NOW, and it doesn't bother Phaze at all. Why? Because Phaze is mature, and you lot are not.
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| September 10, 2009, 8:31 pm
Quoting 2317 -High Marshal Blaze
Read this comment by phaze:http://www.mocpages.com/moc.php/141746
There's NOTHING wrong with this comment! Is there? No. He's using something called CONSTRUCTIVE CRITISIM. It's a good type of critism, saying what's wrong with it, and how he can fix it. He's saying to add a little more pieces, and to make it more believable, and yes, I admit that I'm a hypocrite, yet phaze is doing exactly what MOCpages says to do here: add positive comments, if you say that it's not that great, say why, and how the builder can make it better. He did all of that. He made a great comment.

that one I a lot batter than the others, thanks for showing me that :)
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| September 10, 2009, 8:31 pm
Quoting Kevin Wadowski
that one I a lot batter than the others, thanks for showing me that :)


Please, for the love of crumpets, let's use the topic I started; this one's getting long. :P
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| September 10, 2009, 8:33 pm
Quoting Kevin Wadowski
I've seen him criticise a couple of times, like here (there's worst but can't find them) http://mocpages.com/moc.php/150329


Alright, so he called Pearce out on bad pictures. I get called out on bad pictures. So do many people.
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| September 10, 2009, 8:33 pm
Quoting eighty oh
Here's what he said:

"Are you kidding me? There are too many studs, it's boxy, no greebs, and it just looks off."

There, he said it needs less studs, a less boxy look, and greebles. He ended that with his opinion that it looks off. Nothing rule-breaking there.

"Even still, you could take better pics."

Nothing rule-breaking here, or rud3 for that matter.

"Dude, everyone uses a Camera, and they're pics are better than this."

Yup, nothing rule-breaking here. Everyone DOES use a camera, and their pics ARE in fact a lot better than this.

"Dude, better pics naooo"

Here he nicely asks for better pictures; nothing rule-breaking.

NOW LOOK AT THIS; THIS IS SPENCER'S RESPONSE TO PHAZE'S FIRST POST:

"I'm using a camera so s|-||_|t |_|p naooo!"

Spencer immaturely bursts out saying SH|_|T UP NOW, and it doesn't bother Phaze at all. Why? Because Phaze is mature, and you lot are not.

THANK YOU!!! Phaze is the clear image of the good `ol MOCpages, using constructive critism, the way it should, when other people are yelling b@d words at people.
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| September 10, 2009, 8:34 pm
Quoting eighty oh
Here's what he said:

"Are you kidding me? There are too many studs, it's boxy, no greebs, and it just looks off."

There, he said it needs less studs, a less boxy look, and greebles. He ended that with his opinion that it looks off. Nothing rule-breaking there.

"Even still, you could take better pics."

Nothing rule-breaking here, or rud3 for that matter.

"Dude, everyone uses a Camera, and they're pics are better than this."

Yup, nothing rule-breaking here. Everyone DOES use a camera, and their pics ARE in fact a lot better than this.

"Dude, better pics naooo"

Here he nicely asks for better pictures; nothing rule-breaking.

NOW LOOK AT THIS; THIS IS SPENCER'S RESPONSE TO PHAZE'S FIRST POST:

"I'm using a camera so s|-||_|t |_|p naooo!"

Spencer immaturely bursts out saying SH|_|T UP NOW, and it doesn't bother Phaze at all. Why? Because Phaze is mature, and you lot are not.

no offence but you and phaze are the only ones I know that those commants are ok, they don't break the rule, but do you care? or do you only care about yourself (I mean it in the nices of ways) know one else I know thinks that's ok
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| September 10, 2009, 8:37 pm
Quoting Awesome-o-saurus The Not-So-Great

Alright, so he called Pearce out on bad pictures. I get called out on bad pictures. So do many people.

I liked eighty oh comments on that moc better.

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| September 10, 2009, 8:40 pm
Quoting Kevin Wadowski
I liked eighty oh comments on that moc better.


We all have out choices. But my point stands: Phaze gave the honest truth, and if you don't like it, you need to find an even kiddier site to spend time on. Like Lego.com...
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| September 10, 2009, 8:42 pm
Quoting Kevin Wadowski
I liked eighty oh comments on that moc better.


I hate to tell you, but that was when I was lying and pretending to be a noob. I wasn't being honest at all there. :P
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| September 10, 2009, 8:43 pm
all I'm saying for the good of mocpages and for a nicer world so to if you don't like I moc, and want to tell how to improve say it nicly, please, or don't say anything at all. I would love to say and chat but I have a bunch of homework to do ( in my school 7th grade = lot of homework time ) so I hope were all still good. bye
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| September 10, 2009, 8:44 pm
Quoting Kevin Wadowski
I liked eighty oh comments on that moc better.


I h4te to tell you, but I was lying at the time. :P
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| September 10, 2009, 8:44 pm
Quoting eighty oh

I h4te to tell you, but I was lying at the time. :P

so why not know? (lucky i didn't leave to computer yet)
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| September 10, 2009, 8:46 pm
Quoting Kevin Wadowski
so why not know? (lucky i didn't leave to computer yet)

I mean you can still say your opinion nicly
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| September 10, 2009, 8:47 pm
Quoting eighty oh

I h4te to tell you, but I was lying at the time. :P


OH MY GAAAAAWWWWWD!




...Anyone ever seen that scene from Troll 2?
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| September 10, 2009, 8:47 pm
ok eighty oh I need to go but I hope were still good :)
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| September 10, 2009, 8:49 pm
Quoting Kevin Wadowski
I mean you can still say your opinion nicly


Listen up kid: If I like an MOC I'll say I like it. If I don't like it, I'll say I don't like it.

If the builder doesn't like the fact that I don't like his MOC, TOUGH.

That's the way the world works.
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| September 10, 2009, 8:49 pm
Anyone who wants to save phaze, type down in groups, phaze, and the last one will be the group for you guys to join.
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| September 10, 2009, 8:51 pm
This is very very very sad.

And not because of Phaze.

You're all crying about something that DOESN'T REALLY EXIST. You're complaining about him 'hacking' your groups. What are these groups to you? A place on the internet, something you can't even touch. And you don't even really know the people! You'll probably never meet them! You don't even konw the name of most of the members! You jsut use it to post your MOCs and hope more people see it to get comments and faves.

And another thing, these complaints about Phaze being rude in commments. IMO, if the MOC is terrible, but I want to help the person, I'll constructively critisize. I'll tell him what to improve and what to move, instead of lying and saying 'kewl i lik it. fav.' Also, one of you complained that he doesn't have to say it about everything. He probably doesn't. He like GOOD MOCs. But the ones that need improvements, will get critisized constructively.

This. Is the reason why I switched to flickr.
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| September 11, 2009, 9:56 am
Quoting PA ND A .
Quoting eighty oh

Listen up kid: If I like an MOC I'll say I like it. If I don't like it, I'll say I don't like it.

If the builder doesn't like the fact that I don't like his MOC, TOUGH.

That's the way the world works.
So the world hangs in a fragile balance of liking each others MOCs? XD


Exactly.

And being forced to lie about MOCs that really and truly 5uck in order to be "accepted" in the community.
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| September 11, 2009, 10:01 am
Quoting eighty oh

Exactly.

And being forced to lie about MOCs that really and truly 5uck in order to be "accepted" in the community.

life isnt fair we have to live and fight for our patch of land so yea u can say u like or not
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| September 11, 2009, 2:47 pm
those who deny that hacking is possible.. you are crazy... do you guys remember the un-elites??? the group is now deleted... but b4 it was... the group member count got all messed up and said -4 NEGITIVE?? yeah! i am still confused to this very day about that... and about phaze... i hope this phaze has no relation to the original phaze who i was friends with just recently, the real phaze... this is crazy
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| September 11, 2009, 6:47 pm
Quoting Spencer Pearce
PEOPLE!!! Can't this wait until tomorrow? Doesn't anyone realize what happened 8 years ago today?


I saw it through a camera on the other side of a country. Let's all put this arguing aside for today, shall we?
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| September 11, 2009, 7:24 pm
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