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"Brown Bear Heavy Tank" disscussion
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First off, I want to thank you not only for the contest, but for all the extensive reviews you obviously put so much time into for each and every entry.

Second, response to your review of my tank and dio.

When I read your review and saw what you had to say, I at first thought you were just pointing out every bad part you could find with my creation. Then I went and looked back on what I posted awhile ago. When I took a deeper look at my old creation, I actually thought "Yeesh, I entered that?"

Concerning the tank, I've actually updated it and made it much better since then, Much of the points you brought up yourself about the tank, were already brought to my attention by my friends in the military group it was built for. I'll highlight all of those concerns now.

turret to tall/big for body of tank: That began to bother me about a week after I made the thing. I noticed how abnormally large the turret was for the body, and that it should also be lower to give the tank a lower profile.

huge gun: It definatley seemed to long and thick for the rest of the tank, and that also bothered me a couple weeks after the build. Your concern, with the four-barreled gun, was right on the money. I did not have enough grey round pieces to make the gun perfectly round. I thought those "log" pieces were a better solution than just going with a square barrel.

Intrestingly enough, I addressed nearly all of these concerns when I overhauled the tank a few weeks after the original posting. I have pictures of the latter here: http://www.flickr.com/photos/44219944@N03/4233912321/. (You'll notice it still has that "log" gun. I still hadn't gotten the pieces to make it round)

other interesting points you brought up were the diorama itself. One thing you brought up concerned my destroyed buildings, I thought they looked pretty good myself, so I'm curious as to what you had in mind when you suggested giving them architectural details. I wish I could have made the walls taller, however I already had other builds that sucked up most of my wall pieces in those colors.

Another item of interest, a brick street instead of the baseplate I used. My only expiriance with brick-built streets is this: http://www.mocpages.com/moc.php/80577. And I know from that episode that I only have enough dark gray/blay for one lane of a road. let alone the width of a full city street. I could have done the street with black bricks, but most of those were already being used here: http://www.mocpages.com/moc.php/165202.

Again thank you for your time and helpful reviews.
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| February 6, 2010, 1:31 pm
forgot to link to my entry: http://www.mocpages.com/moc.php/165670.
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| February 6, 2010, 2:59 pm
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Quoting Thomas N
When I read your review and saw what you had to say, I at first thought you were just pointing out every bad part you could find with my creation.

Sorry, I know I was pretty rough on your entry. That review was actually one of the harder ones to write, for just that reason. You got the questionable benefit of my tough love because I felt that not only could you do better, but you were mature enough to handle it -- not become defensive or think I had a personal vendetta against you. I am glad to say you have proven me right in that assumption.

Quoting Thomas N
Much of the points you brought up yourself about the tank, were already brought to my attention by my friends in the military group it was built for.

It seems you're already in good hands, then. As I said in the review, there are a ton of awesome tanks out there. If it is your aim to produce awesome tanks of your own, those builders are the ones to be studying and listening to and learning from, not me.

Quoting Thomas N
One thing you brought up concerned my destroyed buildings, I thought they looked pretty good myself, so I'm curious as to what you had in mind when you suggested giving them architectural details.

The trouble with your ruins, and most ruins I see done in Lego, is that they don't look like a building that has come down. It's just low blank walls of bricks for the most part. When a house burns or an explosive goes off in a building, parts of walls and other floors and the roof are generally left standing. The following picture gives some idea of what I'm talking about -- http://www.mocpages.com/image_zoom.php?mocid=158871&id=/user_images/4925/12555037951 -- particularly the tan building in the background and the gray one in the near right.

Obviously those examples are more parts-intensive than you could go for your dio, but what I'm getting at in yours is the lack of any doorframes left standing, part of a wall with a windowframe, that sort of thing. And within your ruined walls, any sort of broken furniture to really bring it home that this was a house that was destroyed, or a shop, or whatever.

Lego is brightly colored plastic, a medium that does not lend itself well to scenes of devastation. It's just hard to do.

Quoting Thomas N
Another item of interest, a brick street instead of the baseplate I used.

As with all my suggestions throughout all the reviews, the unspoken caveat applies -- parts permitting. If you ain't got the bricks, you just ain't got the bricks. You made do with what you had, but I don't think you can deny that the baseplate simply looked off compared with the ruins all around it.

Myself, I would have cheated. The tank takes up so much roadspace that you could use any color bricks for the road directly underneath it (or leave a big hole), and no one would know. There's all sorts of little tricks you can use to extend your collection.

Sorry for the delay responding to you here, but MOCpages has been slow the last several days. When that happens I usually just click away from the site and try again later rather than sit there waiting, yelling at the computer.
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| February 9, 2010, 7:25 pm
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