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A New Weapon for the COP
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Quoting Indiana Pearce AKA Mr. Spock AKA Killing You
As of 6:30 PM, Missouri Time, the scientists on Mozilla have approved the production of a new weapon: the flashbang.

This new electrical weapon is designed to disable enemy ships by overloading the circuts and blowing all of the fuses. The massive amount of electricity also kills the crew, so the ship can be captured without a hitch. Well, unless the ship gets reclaimed, but... never mind. Anyway, this weapon shall be first installed on CPS Hammer of Thyr, among the greebles.

In a nutshell, it looks like BK's Particle Beam cannon, and ignores shields and armor.

... so is supposed to be a super weapon because you would need a LOT of power to do that.
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| August 17, 2009, 9:05 pm
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I like it. Sort of the ultimate price of using electric power. Kind of.
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| August 17, 2009, 10:55 pm
Is this a conversation for approval on super weapons?
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| August 17, 2009, 11:32 pm
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Quoting King Geartech Guugshantinian Monarch
Is this a conversation for approval on super weapons?


I guess, but they gotta be reasonable. Like no super lasers, no planet exploding bombs, or things like that. However, biological, chemical, and nuclear weapons are permitted. As are radiological weapons.
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| August 17, 2009, 11:35 pm
Quoting Awesome-o-saurus The Not-So-Great

I guess, but they gotta be reasonable. Like no super lasers, no planet exploding bombs, or things like that. However, biological, chemical, and nuclear weapons are permitted. As are radiological weapons.

I am working on a possible weapon right now. The weapon utilizes the killing sound of 200+ decibels. The reaction for the sound potential would be encased in a shell that would be fired from a mobile artillery piece. I made a prototype for my new comic, but I can make a second version for the COP. In fact I would be making a second version anyway for the comic.
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| August 17, 2009, 11:43 pm
Does that sound reasonable?
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| August 17, 2009, 11:45 pm
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Quoting King Geartech Guugshantinian Monarch
Does that sound reasonable?


Not the artilery shell. Just hook it up to a giant transmitter and broadcast it on every frequency.
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| August 17, 2009, 11:48 pm
Quoting Awesome-o-saurus The Not-So-Great

Not the artilery shell. Just hook it up to a giant transmitter and broadcast it on every frequency.

But wouldn't that tamper with our own broadcasts? That punches holes in the information network.
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| August 17, 2009, 11:49 pm
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Quoting King Geartech Guugshantinian Monarch
But wouldn't that tamper with our own broadcasts? That punches holes in the information network.


True, it would. We could get a large transmitter and just point it at the enemy.

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| August 17, 2009, 11:55 pm
Quoting Indiana Pearce AKA Mr. Spock AKA Killing You
Not to mention take out our own non-soundproof ships in the process! I think that the sound weapon should be used to clear a planet.

It's more of a land based weapon. It is also more of an army sabotager and psycological weapon. You can attach it to a ship I supppose, but sound doesn't travel through space, so you would need an encased shell that causes a reaction.
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| August 17, 2009, 11:56 pm
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Quoting Indiana Pearce AKA Mr. Spock AKA Killing You
Not to mention take out our own non-soundproof ships in the process! I think that the sound weapon should be used to clear a planet.


No sound in space as you know. And we could just clear out the area effected by the sound.
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| August 17, 2009, 11:57 pm
Quoting Awesome-o-saurus The Not-So-Great

True, it would. We could get a large transmitter and just point it at the enemy.

Use the transmission as a claymore effect?
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| August 17, 2009, 11:57 pm
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Quoting King Geartech Guugshantinian Monarch
Use the transmission as a claymore effect?


Perhaps. I was thinking giant megaphone.
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| August 18, 2009, 12:02 am
Quoting Awesome-o-saurus The Not-So-Great

Perhaps. I was thinking giant megaphone.

Possible, but it would easily be blocked by possible transimission blockers like chaf and could just be rendered useless.
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| August 18, 2009, 12:04 am
I have a prototype on here right now if you wish to see it. Note that it is not the true version. I will be making a second depending on the final product of our ideas.
http://mocpages.com/moc.php/107157
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| August 18, 2009, 12:17 am
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Quoting Indiana Pearce AKA Mr. Spock AKA Killing You
it looks like BK's Particle Beam cannon, and ignores shields and armor.


Yay! My particle beam cannon!
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| August 18, 2009, 3:44 am
Quoting Awesome-o-saurus The Not-So-Great

I guess, but they gotta be reasonable. Like no super lasers, no planet exploding bombs, or things like that. However, biological, chemical, and nuclear weapons are permitted. As are radiological weapons.

how about atmosphere infernos?
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| August 18, 2009, 4:24 am
That's only a prototype. I am making a better version soon with armor and a better turret.
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| August 18, 2009, 12:15 pm
Quoting Indiana Pearce AKA Mr. Spock AKA Killing You
Actually special crystals provide the necessary power for this but you're right it does require a LOT of power that's why it's only used on major capital ships.

But that's what you get from me. Superweapon Enterprises, inc.


may i use these on my ships?
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| August 18, 2009, 12:21 pm
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What about guass cannons, like the ones in Halo?
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| August 18, 2009, 12:39 pm
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Quoting Sammy Harris
What about guass cannons, like the ones in Halo?


Those are basically rail guns with a different format. They loop the magnetic things in coils, not how other rail guns are.
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| August 18, 2009, 1:15 pm
So, do you like the mobile artillery piece idea or the broadcasting one?
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| August 18, 2009, 4:07 pm
Quoting Indiana Pearce AKA Mr. Spock AKA Killing You
Soundproof our vehicles, then the artillery is safer and more effective.

I'm still not into the sound idea, because it is easily blocked, like electricity, admittedly. But electricity leaves a deadly charge, unlike sound. You can use sound if you want, but remember that it is easily blocked, can't leave a charge, and completely ineffective in space.

Like I said before, the sound gun is a land based weapon. The artillery idea marks against anti infantry. For use against instalations to get inside, the shell is modified for wall cracking capabilities. I am excited at the idea of remaking my design.
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| August 18, 2009, 4:26 pm
Quoting Ben Tice
Sound may be easily blocked but what are the chances of our enemies carry around big sheets of metal and glass around. What are the chances of them having a big satellite to emit waves to counter our sound waves plus are technology level is a lot higher than theres.

sound waves being used would harm us. A long range artillery piece is really only the logical solution.
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| August 18, 2009, 4:27 pm
Quoting Ben Tice
Rail guns work as better artillery see there more efficient artillery weapons there yours. your weapon would be more to torture and slowly kill the enemy for fun which is what some of are more crazed CO'S would do.

It's a psycological weapon to lower enemy moral as well as lower their reinforcement count.
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| August 18, 2009, 4:30 pm
Quoting Indiana Pearce AKA Mr. Spock AKA Killing You
They could soundproof their buggys, APCs, tanks, aircraft, and use only those. It's easier than you think and highly effective.

Possible armor piercing shells could be used.
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| August 18, 2009, 4:33 pm
Quoting Indiana Pearce AKA Mr. Spock AKA Killing You
You have a point. Use it on the APCs to REALLY eliminate their troops!

Then they have lost fighting troops, and drivers.
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| August 18, 2009, 4:42 pm
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Psycological weapons... I like it. Maybe we can attach something like a Ju-87's Jericho Siren to our aircraft, and scare the UNE troops.

I like psycological weapons.
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| August 18, 2009, 4:45 pm
Quoting Awesome-o-saurus The Not-So-Great
Psycological weapons... I like it. Maybe we can attach something like a Ju-87's Jericho Siren to our aircraft, and scare the UNE troops.

I like psycological weapons.

This is only the tip of the iceberg. If needed I have many other ideas that some feel to be a tad, monstrous.
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| August 18, 2009, 4:47 pm
Quoting Indiana Pearce AKA Mr. Spock AKA Killing You
Then they would retreat like the cowards they are! Unless it was their home planet, then they'd surrender. Then we'll bomb them! Then we'll capture President Moffat and let Emporer Ian III deal with him!

It would also be a costly affair. If they have lost soldiers and personnel, they would have to find more. The more we kill the more they will need. Until they might even have to constitute a draft on civilian planets. This would seem to be a military blunder and cause the fall of there government due to protests by angry drafted civilians.
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| August 18, 2009, 4:51 pm
Quoting Ben Tice
An effective weapon it may be but not something I would use in my arsenal.

What would you use? Standard munitions that no longer cause awe in the eye of an enemy and the only possible way to win with it is a flanking manuever that costs the lives of soldiers?
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| August 18, 2009, 4:58 pm
Quoting Ben Tice
An effective weapon it may be but not something I would use in my arsenal.

But yes thank you for saying it is effective.
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| August 18, 2009, 5:00 pm
Quoting Ben Tice
I mean for artillery. For artillery I would use rail guns. There blast radius is much larger than this weapon a 8 mj rail gun has a radius of around 550 yards I believe imagine a 100 mj rail gun.

Also effective.
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| August 18, 2009, 5:04 pm
I am calling this sound project, call me cliche, but I am calling it Project Beethoven.
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| August 18, 2009, 5:08 pm
Quoting Ben Tice
Quoting Indiana Pearce AKA Mr. Spock AKA Killing You
CPS Armaghedden will cut right to the heart.

Once I find a Digital camera that WORKS WITH MY COMPUTER, I will post a line of Hercules-class ships including CPS Hercules, CPS Hooded Cobra (V2!), CPS Daedalus, CPS Enterprise, CPS Gamma, CPS Incense, CPS Ian MacDonald, CPS Thyrsisilla (Thyrenda, Tarsis, and Mozilla combined, in honor of three major planets in the COP), and CPS Armageddon.
wow a lot of ships.....

Indeed.
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| August 18, 2009, 5:10 pm
Quoting Indiana Pearce AKA Mr. Spock AKA Killing You
My camera's software is "incompatible" with my computer so if it didn't have my favorite games on it I would f(beep) it up my bathtub's a(beep)!!!!!11!!!!!11111!!!!!1!!111!!!!!

Do you use a usb wire or a videocard?
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| August 18, 2009, 5:17 pm
Quoting Indiana Pearce AKA Mr. Spock AKA Killing You
USB wire. But the camera's software doesn't agree with my computer so I might have to use another tactic.

Does it have a memory card in it?
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| August 18, 2009, 5:27 pm
Quoting Indiana Pearce AKA Mr. Spock AKA Killing You
Nope.

That stinks. Hope you get it fixed. Do you still have the software instalation disk?
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| August 18, 2009, 5:31 pm
Quoting Indiana Pearce AKA Mr. Spock AKA Killing You
Uh-uh. I have a plan...

Ok. Again, hope you got it fixed.
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| August 18, 2009, 5:35 pm
Quoting Indiana Pearce AKA Mr. Spock AKA Killing You
Nope.

Then Get one then all you go is load it into the comp. and bam! done. or try hooking it up to your printer and then send it to your comp.
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| August 18, 2009, 5:37 pm
Quoting Indiana Pearce AKA Mr. Spock AKA Killing You
I have a plan. It involves cell phone cameras and g-mail.

that works

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| August 18, 2009, 5:43 pm
Quoting Awesome-o-saurus The Not-So-Great

I guess, but they gotta be reasonable. Like no super lasers, no planet exploding bombs, or things like that. However, biological, chemical, and nuclear weapons are permitted. As are radiological weapons.


DOCTOR DEVICE!!!!

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| August 18, 2009, 6:19 pm
I will have Project Beethoven up by next week.
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| August 18, 2009, 6:32 pm
Quoting Awesome-o-saurus The Not-So-Great

Not the artilery shell. Just hook it up to a giant transmitter and broadcast it on every frequency.


Transmit the song power of love into enemy ships and the crew will be dead within seconds
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| August 20, 2009, 7:14 am
Quoting Indiana Pearce AKA Mr. Spock AKA Killing You
I know. But if it invades the broadcasting system of a ship, the crew would be dead in seconds.

spock maybe we could send it out on all transmitters but so it does not affect our own we use ermergancy channels that cant be reached by certain sound waves
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| August 20, 2009, 7:23 am
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Quoting Slip Knot
I am in the process of creating a big mass driver for planetary use (on LDD). It's ammunition is my patented Napalm Gel shells scaled up tenfold. Well maybe doubled in size. But still lethal. Napalm gel works like this. Stored in reinforced glass cases, bolted on to the rest of the shell with reinforced glass bolts. the shell is fired. the resulting explosion destroys the target, and destroying the reinforced glass casing wich acts like shcrapnel. The glass "schrapnel" takes out some survivors. The napalm gel coes out of he broken casing with the effect of shaking up a can of Coke and opening it. The gel is sprayed everywhere, sticking to anything it touches after the rapid decompression of its container being destroyed. It will melt through 3ft of solid alloys, and disintegrate flesh beyod recognition. Win win for the Coalition.

Awesome, do I have permission to retro fit your MACs with this type of ammo?


Here's a slight road bump to your very cool idea. MACs fire at incredible speeds, as in, whole number percents of the speed of light. The big one on Hammer of Thyr is capable of punching right through several ships and continueing on through space. It would be more applicable on lighter, surface use rail guns (a shell from a MAC in space would either disentegrate upon hitting the atmosphere or would create a crater the size of the aptly named Meteor Crater in Arizona) or conventional artillery.

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| August 20, 2009, 2:57 pm
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Quoting Slip Knot
Well, do I have permission to retrofit conventional artillery weapons with this ammo to the Hammer of Thyr? (By the way, thanks for saying the idea is cool anyway)


Like most other goverment-owned ships in the COP, the Hammer of Thyr uses a standard design KEW turret, found on most ships, and also used as ground emplacements. The special round should be able work, just put in a normal round and bam! Cost efficient, just what any large empire likes.
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| August 20, 2009, 4:00 pm
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Quoting Slip Knot
Quoting Awesome-o-saurus The Not-So-Great

Like most other goverment-owned ships in the COP, the Hammer of Thyr uses a standard design KEW turret, found on most ships, and also used as ground emplacements. The special round should be able work, just put in a normal round and bam! Cost efficient, just what any large empire likes.
So... Did that mean yes to put in KEW or no to put in KEW? I'm simple.


Yes, put the new weapon inside standard KEW shells. Then, the weapons themselves won't have to be changed, saving time and money.

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| August 20, 2009, 4:35 pm
Is there a creation for this KEW Turret?
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| August 20, 2009, 4:37 pm
what about a warhead with a chemical that dizzolves metal (similar to the nanomite bombs in GI Joe) if it gets approved ill create a prototype warhead and launcher.
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| August 20, 2009, 4:39 pm
Quoting recon commander chas
what about a warhead with a chemical that dizzolves metal (similar to the nanomite bombs in GI Joe) if it gets approved ill create a prototype warhead and launcher.

You mean like acidic warheads?
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| August 20, 2009, 4:40 pm
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Quoting King Geartech Guugshantinian Monarch
Is there a creation for this KEW Turret?


Not as of yet, but I hope to get one up by the end September. I have a ton of things I need to post.
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| August 20, 2009, 5:03 pm
Quoting Awesome-o-saurus The Not-So-Great

Not as of yet, but I hope to get one up by the end September. I have a ton of things I need to post.

Great! I also have another question. Is a rail gun breach loaded and if not, how is it loaded?
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| August 20, 2009, 5:06 pm
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If you were to mount one of those water cutters on a ship and use it as a turret. That would be pretty cool.
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| August 20, 2009, 5:10 pm
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Quoting King Geartech Guugshantinian Monarch
Great! I also have another question. Is a rail gun breach loaded and if not, how is it loaded?


I think they're breach loaders... Well, railguns have the potential for a high rate of fire, but the barrel get's extremely heated, very fast. So I'd say yes, breach loaded.
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| August 20, 2009, 5:20 pm
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Quoting Ian Macdonald
If you were to mount one of those water cutters on a ship and use it as a turret. That would be pretty cool.


A giant plasma torch? Reminds me of a weapon in the Vorkosigan series... A gravity lance, or something, where they direct gravity into some kind of beam and smash the other ship with it... Not sure that's very feasible though.
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| August 20, 2009, 5:22 pm
Quoting Awesome-o-saurus The Not-So-Great

A giant plasma torch? Reminds me of a weapon in the Vorkosigan series... A gravity lance, or something, where they direct gravity into some kind of beam and smash the other ship with it... Not sure that's very feasible though.

This is off-topic, but I invited you to a group.
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| August 20, 2009, 5:28 pm
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Quoting G Gamer
Quoting Awesome-o-saurus The Not-So-Great

I guess, but they gotta be reasonable. Like no super lasers, no planet exploding bombs, or things like that. However, biological, chemical, and nuclear weapons are permitted. As are radiological weapons.


DOCTOR DEVICE!!!!


jaja yes. but we'd have to put it onto a puely robotic ship as to not have our own ships get killed in the blast. but yes, that WOULD send the UNE running. jejeje-BUT THE DOCTER IS COMING AFTER THEM! Wait, that would count as a bomb. :(
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| August 20, 2009, 5:59 pm
Quoting Phelan Azerus
CHAT!CHAT!CHAT

Chat now!
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| August 20, 2009, 6:01 pm
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Quoting Awesome-o-saurus The Not-So-Great

I guess, but they gotta be reasonable. Like no super lasers, no planet exploding bombs, or things like that. However, biological, chemical, and nuclear weapons are permitted. As are radiological weapons.


What about DESTINI?
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| August 20, 2009, 6:10 pm
Quoting King Geartech Guugshantinian Monarch
You mean like acidic warheads?

yeah kinda like that oh and i have a prototype designed
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| August 20, 2009, 6:12 pm
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What about the 'Planet Buster Barrage'? It's basicly like a barrage of missles... only they're nuclear missles, and enough to turn an entire world into a nuclear dump...
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| August 20, 2009, 6:40 pm
Quoting Sammy Harris
What about the 'Planet Buster Barrage'? It's basicly like a barrage of missles... only they're nuclear missles, and enough to turn an entire world into a nuclear dump...

Sammy, get onto the COP mibbit chat so we can talk about our MOCoff.
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| August 20, 2009, 6:41 pm
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Quoting Sammy Harris
What about the 'Planet Buster Barrage'? It's basicly like a barrage of missles... only they're nuclear missles, and enough to turn an entire world into a nuclear dump...


The only side-effect I can think of would be the Sons of Korhal.
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| August 20, 2009, 6:43 pm
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Quoting Cisco Da Mongoose

The only side-effect I can think of would be the Sons of Korhal.


The who?

As for total nuclear bombardment, that's my style. We don't need all these crazy, expensive weapons when a good old fusion (or fission, if you're old school) detonation can do the job for you.
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| August 20, 2009, 6:52 pm
I thought in this war planet destroying viruses and attacking civilians was against the ROE
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| August 20, 2009, 7:56 pm
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Quoting Lieutenant Dawn
I thought in this war planet destroying viruses and attacking civilians was against the ROE

That was in the time of the Tri-War council. We have only two factions now.
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| August 20, 2009, 8:15 pm
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Quoting Lieutenant Dawn
I thought in this war planet destroying viruses and attacking civilians was against the ROE


Now that the EOS are out, along with the maker of those rules, they are invalid. We can attack civilians as much as we want, but it'll make us look really bad, so I don't think we should. Unless they form a resistance.
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| August 20, 2009, 8:21 pm
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Quoting Awesome-o-saurus The Not-So-Great

Now that the EOS are out, along with the maker of those rules, they are invalid. We can attack civilians as much as we want, but it'll make us look really bad, so I don't think we should. Unless they form a resistance.

We can use all the biological warfare we want!
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| August 20, 2009, 8:23 pm
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Quoting Sammy Harris
We can use all the biological warfare we want!

I think it is time for me to voice a view of sanity here:
Yes: We are at war
Yes: We really dislike the U.N.E.
Maybe: Must we kill all of them? Just like the COP - the UNE has lots of innocent civilians. So would we really think about nuking entire worlds?
Yes: We would save lots of money to just attack UNE military positions etc.
Yes: We would not like it if the UNE Nuked one of our worlds with more than 50% Innocents.
.....
Despite BK.Ind being a Ships and Weapons manufacturer, We must remember not to go too crazy.
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| August 20, 2009, 8:57 pm
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Quoting Ben Kelly (BK)
I think it is time for me to voice a view of sanity here:
Yes: We are at war
Yes: We really dislike the U.N.E.
Maybe: Must we kill all of them? Just like the COP - the UNE has lots of innocent civilians. So would we really think about nuking entire worlds?
Yes: We would save lots of money to just attack UNE military positions etc.
Yes: We would not like it if the UNE Nuked one of our worlds with more than 50% Innocents.
.....
Despite BK.Ind being a Ships and Weapons manufacturer, We must remember not to go too crazy.

You have to remember... we ARE the bad guys. Although we are not as evil as the Reapers or the Orcs in LotR, but we are at TOTAL WAR, which means if we have to kill civilians we will.
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| August 20, 2009, 10:01 pm
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Also, I must remind you, we do NOT want war. We want piece, but by keeping our enemies down and out.
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| August 20, 2009, 10:11 pm
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I do suppose...
I would much prefer if we could do it like WW2, When Germany invaded France - They let the french continue about their jobs to keep the place running etc. But Nazi Germany took over the government.
But you are right - We are at total war, we will kill civilians if we must :(
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| August 20, 2009, 10:13 pm
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Quoting Ben Kelly (BK)
I do suppose...
I would much prefer if we could do it like WW2, When Germany invaded France - They let the french continue about their jobs to keep the place running etc. But Nazi Germany took over the government.
But you are right - We are at total war, we will kill civilians if we must :(

Hey, remember... This is all fiction! That's what makes being the badguys more fun! We can kill civilains and nuke world without feeling guilty!
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| August 20, 2009, 10:19 pm
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Quoting Sammy Harris
Hey, remember... This is all fiction! That's what makes being the badguys more fun! We can kill civilains and nuke world without feeling guilty!


How about we take it further and start the worship of Emperor Ian? Then we can be even more influenced by Warhammer 40k, start an inquisition, kill who we want because Ian doesn't like them... Think of the terr0r we could inflict on people!

Or we could just leave it at being vaguely Nazi-esque conquerers.
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| August 20, 2009, 11:02 pm
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Quoting Nathan Jacobson
Quoting Awesome-o-saurus The Not-So-Great

How about we take it further and start the worship of Emperor Ian? Then we can be even more influenced by Warhammer 40k, start an inquisition, kill who we want because Ian doesn't like them... Think of the terr0r we could inflict on people!

Or we could just leave it at being vaguely Nazi-esque conquerers.
For the Emperor!!!!


Worshipping an ancient, cybernetically enhanced (as in, brain in a robotic body) guy named Ian anyone?
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| August 20, 2009, 11:05 pm
Quoting Awesome-o-saurus The Not-So-Great

Worshipping an ancient, cybernetically enhanced (as in, brain in a robotic body) guy named Ian anyone?

And this deity would have made a race of people to aid in the deity's desires and decrees?
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| August 20, 2009, 11:17 pm
I am more in favor of a Soviet-esque regime in which censorships are in place and a strong military arm and attacks on what we bloody well please.
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| August 20, 2009, 11:21 pm
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Quoting King Geartech Guugshantinian Monarch
And this deity would have made a race of people to aid in the deity's desires and decrees?


Nope, just a man turned god in a personality cult gone wrong (to the UNE, that is).

But I like the Soviet suggestion, that's how I've been imagining the COP the whole time. Of course, POAM never really goes beyond the frontier territories, such as the Aeaea and Thyr systems, where the COP is a distant power only enforced by an underfunded and ill-equiped divison of the 3rd Fleet, all the better things are off fighting Earth (or the EOS, depending which episode you're on).

But, the next series will be heavily involved in the more fortified central regions, to show just how opressive the COP goverment is.

So, do we got Soviet-style state, worshipping the Emperor theocracy, or kinda of a general empire, like Rome?
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| August 20, 2009, 11:30 pm
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Quoting Awesome-o-saurus The Not-So-Great

Nope, just a man turned god in a personality cult gone wrong (to the UNE, that is).

But I like the Soviet suggestion, that's how I've been imagining the COP the whole time. Of course, POAM never really goes beyond the frontier territories, such as the Aeaea and Thyr systems, where the COP is a distant power only enforced by an underfunded and ill-equiped divison of the 3rd Fleet, all the better things are off fighting Earth (or the EOS, depending which episode you're on).

But, the next series will be heavily involved in the more fortified central regions, to show just how opressive the COP goverment is.

So, do we got Soviet-style state, worshipping the Emperor theocracy, or kinda of a general empire, like Rome?

Worship the emperor!!
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| August 20, 2009, 11:39 pm
If one is to look upon the soviet idea, one must also look at the set up we have here in the COP. Steel Curtain is an idea from Iron Curtain no? And if we do have to oppress a people, tell them it is the good of the working man, a revolution, of sorts. Other rebellions have been crushed because the working man was not for it. If we keep this charade up the citizens will be more inclined to be a part of the union itself.
In summation, tell them the EOS and the UNE wish to destroy that which has been set up to opress the people on a further regiment. Tell them that they have a voice and dismiss post haste. If you want to make a rudimentory metaphor, think of it as a suggestion box that the boss never reads but says is always important.
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| August 20, 2009, 11:46 pm
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How about we combine Soviet and the worship of Emperor Ian?

Like, Ian is some kind of mystical figure, and to help him, you the people must dedicate yourselves to the COP. The UNE has not embraced the ideals Ian wishes to bring upon all people, so they must die.

Sounded better in me head. Maybe just Nazi-ish empire would work best. Throw in some of the oppresive Soviet stuff, make the people think opression is salvation or something, and sit back and let the masses fall victim to a big lie (like Hitler said, the people will more easily be fooled by a big lie than a small one.).
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| August 20, 2009, 11:57 pm
Well, Hitler was lying to control the people by using scapegoats. If you bend the truth to tell that the People of the COP are true seers of the Empire, and you apoint an Emporer that says he is the will of the people, then the people will believe "Hey, he is speaking for me, I have a voice!" It will work.
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| August 21, 2009, 12:02 am
In summary, tell the people you are FOR them not AGAINST another. Use the UNE as the strangleholds of the man who does not speak for them, or the businessman who controls by the mighty dollar.
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| August 21, 2009, 12:03 am
Call it, a Social Monarchy.
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| August 21, 2009, 12:14 am
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Quoting King Geartech Guugshantinian Monarch
Call it, a Social Monarchy.


I like it. All in favor, say "Aye!"

Aye!
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| August 21, 2009, 12:36 am
Aye!
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| August 21, 2009, 12:42 am
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Quoting Awesome-o-saurus The Not-So-Great
How about we combine Soviet and the worship of Emperor Ian?

Like, Ian is some kind of mystical figure, and to help him, you the people must dedicate yourselves to the COP. The UNE has not embraced the ideals Ian wishes to bring upon all people, so they must die.

Sounded better in me head. Maybe just Nazi-ish empire would work best. Throw in some of the oppresive Soviet stuff, make the people think opression is salvation or something, and sit back and let the masses fall victim to a big lie (like Hitler said, the people will more easily be fooled by a big lie than a small one.).


I vote for the Following:

Base it around the idea that Emperor Ian is great, for though he can take everything from the people but he does not for he wishes that the people will grow into greatness, and a world of peace. that is why he let the earthlings grow. unfortunately look at the gratitude they showed him. and now they want to corrupt OUR PEOPLE with the idea of WHERE'S MINE! they began to fouly polute this wonderful galaxy we live in. and now they wage war upon us! though the Great Ian, the Not-so-Great Awesome and all other fleetlords of the COP abhor violence, we must defend our people. Imagine the evil sown into these earthling's genes that make them go ahead and buy themselves a personal vehicle, when others of their same kind are dieing of hunger. For Ian. For the C.O.P. For Unity. For prosperity. For PEACE. PEACE. THROUGH. POWER.

I'd go on rambling (as I'm sure you realized i could do this forever) but My mom is yelling at me and I gotta go sleep (if i keep on I'll start spelling like a clonetard).
anyways tell me whatcha think.
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| August 21, 2009, 1:54 am
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Quoting Cisco Da Mongoose

I vote for the Following:

Base it around the idea that Emperor Ian is great, for though he can take everything from the people but he does not for he wishes that the people will grow into greatness, and a world of peace. that is why he let the earthlings grow. unfortunately look at the gratitude they showed him. and now they want to corrupt OUR PEOPLE with the idea of WHERE'S MINE! they began to fouly polute this wonderful galaxy we live in. and now they wage war upon us! though the Great Ian, the Not-so-Great Awesome and all other fleetlords of the COP abhor violence, we must defend our people. Imagine the evil sown into these earthling's genes that make them go ahead and buy themselves a personal vehicle, when others of their same kind are dieing of hunger. For Ian. For the C.O.P. For Unity. For prosperity. For PEACE. PEACE. THROUGH. POWER.

I'd go on rambling (as I'm sure you realized i could do this forever) but My mom is yelling at me and I gotta go sleep (if i keep on I'll start spelling like a clonetard).
anyways tell me whatcha think.


Oh, I like that one to. I think we should incorporate it into Geartech's Social Monarchy idea. It fits really nicely. Peace through power. I like it. Reminds me of the motto of the goverment in V for Vendetta, which I can't remember... It's like Power though Unity or something. They add on Britain is Great on the end, something like that...


"...This has been another broadcast by your goverment. Do not fail in your duty, and we will not fail you. This is (COP Announcer), signing off.

Peace through power."

More Warhammer references. The Imperium has thoughts of the day. They're often having to do with faith, loyalty, duty, and purity, things like that. One of my favorites is: "Knowledge is power. Use it well." or something like that...


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| August 21, 2009, 2:35 am
does ANYONE like my idea of acetic warheads that dizzolves metal?
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| August 21, 2009, 9:45 am
Quoting recon commander chas
does ANYONE like my idea of acetic warheads that dizzolves metal?

hmm i must have misse dthat comment i like the idea chas here is the plan we could do useing them:

locate and aim and crucial enemy's ship spot[bridge etc.]fire melt away metal vaccum of space takes away all oxygen, cablamo!enemy shiop down.I love the idea chas
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| August 21, 2009, 10:05 am
Rail-guns.
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| August 21, 2009, 12:00 pm
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I'm making another thread for this, we'll keep weapon designs and stuff here.

@Guy above me: Railguns are one of our primary weapons.
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| August 21, 2009, 1:00 pm
Quoting JB .
hmm i must have misse dthat comment i like the idea chas here is the plan we could do useing them:

locate and aim and crucial enemy's ship spot[bridge etc.]fire melt away metal vaccum of space takes away all oxygen, cablamo!enemy shiop down.I love the idea chas

thank you, but it probably wont get posted for a while cause my camera needs fixin. :(
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| August 21, 2009, 4:29 pm
Quoting Brickdude !!!
GUYS!!??!! Did yu notice mah comment?!?

i did and i like it !!!
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| August 21, 2009, 4:35 pm
cool

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| August 21, 2009, 4:42 pm
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It's so funny, we keep thinking up these briliant weapons to fight a half-active enemy. It's almost as if we HAVE won.
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| August 25, 2009, 5:47 pm
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Quoting Sammy Harris
It's so funny, we keep thinking up these briliant weapons to fight a half-active enemy. It's almost as if we HAVE won.


Very true. We can probably activate my party balloon factories instead of the war machine factories pretty soon.
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| August 25, 2009, 5:49 pm
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It's a little sad... I remember the old days... When the 23rd century was the 'big thing' on MOCpages.
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| August 25, 2009, 5:54 pm
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Quoting Sammy Harris
It's a little sad... I remember the old days... When the 23rd century was the 'big thing' on MOCpages.


ready?

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*SIGH*
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| August 25, 2009, 7:08 pm
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Let's just say we've contained the UNE to a few systems, and are keeping them there until further notice. Meanwhile, there's still 2/3rds of the galaxy left to explore and bring into the Emperor's oppres- er, light. We've got savage barbarians, small states who defy us with their capitolistic ways, rebels, dissidents, a whole array of filth to cleanse.
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| August 25, 2009, 7:46 pm
what about a weapon causing madness? like a certain radio frequency that brings out a primitive reaction from life-forms

or a weapon causing madness by latching onto a ship,punching a hole and releasing a gas that neutralizes youre sense of touch and smell and taste then youre eyesight goes then your hearing goes
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| August 27, 2009, 12:13 pm
or a miniature mech or little space ship thingy that would secrete a highly corrosive fluid to slowly burn through the windows or weaker parts of the ship
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| August 27, 2009, 12:15 pm
Quoting Kiefer Ericcson
or a miniature mech or little space ship thingy that would secrete a highly corrosive fluid to slowly burn through the windows or weaker parts of the ship

you mean like a fighter armed with my acetic warheads?
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| August 27, 2009, 12:51 pm
Quoting recon commander chas
you mean like a fighter armed with my acetic warheads?


sure ill check it out
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| August 27, 2009, 6:58 pm
Quoting Awesome-o-saurus The Not-So-Great
Let's just say we've contained the UNE to a few systems, and are keeping them there until further notice. Meanwhile, there's still 2/3rds of the galaxy left to explore and bring into the Emperor's oppres- er, light. We've got savage barbarians, small states who defy us with their capitolistic ways, rebels, dissidents, a whole array of filth to cleanse.


G: oh, you have a lot more than that, you have 27 different universes so far that have been categorized and many more still unknown. Why the-...*notices he is being stared at*
G: GLORY TO THE EMPORER!!!!!

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| August 27, 2009, 8:18 pm
Quoting General Kol Serran
Yeah, planet destroyers ARE realistic. You've actually just gotta find something you can use properly. Like a star. Maybe a control device so we can fire gamma ray bursts at star systems so we reduce plaets and people to ash. And then we can toast the UNE with it, IF we're still at war with them. It seems that the UNE has forgotten us or something, because there's like, no war. Not cool when their supposed to be our enemies.

anyone ever thought of peace with the UNE????
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| August 28, 2009, 4:23 pm
well im just sayin that i dont think we have proper cause for war. if someone can think of somethin worth fightin for itd be alot more fun
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| August 28, 2009, 4:25 pm
well im just commenting on the cuase for war. they were just doing a premptive strike because we were forcing them to join the coalition
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| August 28, 2009, 4:29 pm
it doesnt matter whats the smart decision or not, they shouldnt be forced to do anything
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| August 28, 2009, 4:34 pm
well if i was really moral i would say there shouldnt be a war, but what fun would that be?!!! im just sayin there needs to be a better reason to fight
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| August 28, 2009, 4:37 pm
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Quoting Colonel Talon
it doesnt matter whats the smart decision or not, they shouldnt be forced to do anything

They were not 'forced' to attack us.
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| August 28, 2009, 4:37 pm
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Quoting Colonel Talon
well im just commenting on the cuase for war. they were just doing a premptive strike because we were forcing them to join the coalition


It was for thier own good. In the Coalition, all prosper equally, and all suffer equally. The Emperor serves the people, not the other way around. They still have the upper and lower classes, unfair economies and no concept of a true union. Their people serve the goverment.

We're obviously on the good side here.
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| August 28, 2009, 4:38 pm
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Quoting Colonel Talon
well if i was really moral i would say there shouldnt be a war, but what fun would that be?!!! im just sayin there needs to be a better reason to fight

Galactic domination! This is not madness, this is the COALITION!!!

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| August 28, 2009, 4:38 pm
no but if they refused to join, we would have tried to force them to. atleast thats what i get from the main page
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| August 28, 2009, 4:40 pm
Quoting Spencer Pearce
Wait, you said that we're fascist. Now here, you're saying that we're good?

Brain hurt.

i never said we were fascist and i didnt say we were good or bad
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| August 28, 2009, 4:42 pm
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Quoting Spencer Pearce
Wait, you said that we're fascist. Now here, you're saying that we're good?

Brain hurt.


We're social monarchist. Mixing socialism with a monarchy, and toss in some totalitarianism.
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| August 28, 2009, 4:45 pm
Quoting Awesome-o-saurus The Not-So-Great

It was for thier own good. In the Coalition, all prosper equally, and all suffer equally. The Emperor serves the people, not the other way around. They still have the upper and lower classes, unfair economies and no concept of a true union. Their people serve the goverment.

We're obviously on the good side here.

"They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety." -- Benjamin Franklin
we still had no right to force them to join the coalition wheather it was good for them or not
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| August 28, 2009, 4:45 pm
Quoting Spencer Pearce
I was talking to Awesome.

Read the responses, Dan.

woops lol my mistake
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| August 28, 2009, 4:46 pm
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Quoting Colonel Talon
Quoting Awesome-o-saurus The Not-So-Great

It was for thier own good. In the Coalition, all prosper equally, and all suffer equally. The Emperor serves the people, not the other way around. They still have the upper and lower classes, unfair economies and no concept of a true union. Their people serve the goverment.

We're obviously on the good side here.

"They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety." -- Benjamin Franklin
we still had no right to force them to join the coalition wheather it was good for them or not


The safety would not have been temporary. The Coalition has been keeping worlds safe, secure, and prosperous for 40,000 years.
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| August 28, 2009, 4:48 pm
but at what cost and by what means? forcing infior civilizatons to join or else?? that doesnt sound very good to me
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| August 28, 2009, 4:51 pm
Quoting Spencer Pearce
It's bribe and blackmail at once. Hard to refuse, but they did it.... somehow.

that doesnt sound very benevolent at all
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| August 28, 2009, 4:54 pm
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Quoting Colonel Talon
but at what cost and by what means? forcing infior civilizatons to join or else?? that doesnt sound very good to me


Inferior civilizations can join, and have the garuantee of a better standard of living for all, or they can continue to suffer under an unfair way of doing things, that keep the powerful on top and the weak on bottom. I'd join if I were them.

What's done is done, they failed to see the Emperor's Light, and wish to do the rich man's war, poor man's fight.

As long as the enemies of the Coalition still draw breath, there will be no peace.
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| August 28, 2009, 4:55 pm
Quoting Awesome-o-saurus The Not-So-Great

Inferior civilizations can join, and have the garuantee of a better standard of living for all, or they can continue to suffer under an unfair way of doing things, that keep the powerful on top and the weak on bottom. I'd join if I were them.

What's done is done, they failed to see the Emperor's Light, and wish to do the rich man's war, poor man's fight.

As long as the enemies of the Coalition still draw breath, there will be no peace.

who dtermines unfair?? we have an emperor!! and if anyone really hated thier living style they could join the coalition on their own. its not right to make the decision for all of them

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| August 28, 2009, 4:59 pm
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Quoting Colonel Talon
who dtermines unfair?? we have an emperor!! and if anyone really hated thier living style they could join the coalition on their own. its not right to make the decision for all of them


What happens when all the lower class laborers leave the UNE? Who's backs will support the upper class then? I don't think they'd let them leave.
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| August 28, 2009, 5:03 pm
Quoting Awesome-o-saurus The Not-So-Great

What happens when all the lower class laborers leave the UNE? Who's backs will support the upper class then? I don't think they'd let them leave.

how do you know for sure the laborers would leave? and all of them??? if they acted the way they have been and fallow thier own morals they would let them leave, if it came to that

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| August 28, 2009, 5:06 pm
Quoting Spencer Pearce
OK u rz frikin m3 out!!!!

Call me cuz u r not a quick commenter.

i respond pretty quikly
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| August 28, 2009, 5:08 pm
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Quoting Colonel Talon
how do you know for sure the laborers would leave? and all of them??? if they acted the way they have been and fallow thier own morals they would let them leave, if it came to that


Have you seen modern Earth society? As in, how it is now in 2009? There are children as young as 5 being sold to sweatshops to make cheap shoes for us in the Western world. My morals tell me that if I had the power, I'd go and stop that. I don't have the power. The big companies do. And what have they done to stop this? Nearly nothing. Their morals have been blinded by greed, along with a good deal of the rest of the top society.
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| August 28, 2009, 5:10 pm
what do u mean spam?? and i cant call im goin somewhere
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| August 28, 2009, 5:10 pm
Quoting Awesome-o-saurus The Not-So-Great

Have you seen modern Earth society? As in, how it is now in 2009? There are children as young as 5 being sold to sweatshops to make cheap shoes for us in the Western world. My morals tell me that if I had the power, I'd go and stop that. I don't have the power. The big companies do. And what have they done to stop this? Nearly nothing. Their morals have been blinded by greed, along with a good deal of the rest of the top society.

that is other countries like communist china, we have laws against such things in the US
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| August 28, 2009, 5:13 pm
Quoting Spencer Pearce
kk where?

what r u my mother lol?? im just going.....somewhere
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| August 28, 2009, 5:14 pm
so is that it? that all? did i prove my point?
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| August 28, 2009, 5:28 pm
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Quoting Colonel Talon
that is other countries like communist china, we have laws against such things in the US


We have laws against it, but do we use our power to stop it elsewhere? No. And who do you think made all the shoes, cell phones, soccer balls, rugs, whatever? Does the fact many of these things were made by morraly horrid means stop you from buying them?

Also, China isn't communist anymore. They're moving to more of a capitalist stance. Still not there yet, though.
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| August 28, 2009, 5:28 pm
Quoting Awesome-o-saurus The Not-So-Great

We have laws against it, but do we use our power to stop it elsewhere? No. And who do you think made all the shoes, cell phones, soccer balls, rugs, whatever? Does the fact many of these things were made by morraly horrid means stop you from buying them?

Also, China isn't communist anymore. They're moving to more of a capitalist stance. Still not there yet, though.

china still is a rougue state tho
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| August 28, 2009, 5:34 pm
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Quoting Father Khal
china still is a rougue state tho


It's not only China. It's Pakistan, India, Indonesia, Malaysia, in fact, it's most south east Asian states.

The point is, the war with the UNE is on. We can't back out now.
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| August 28, 2009, 5:36 pm
Quoting Awesome-o-saurus The Not-So-Great

It's not only China. It's Pakistan, India, Indonesia, Malaysia, in fact, it's most south east Asian states.

The point is, the war with the UNE is on. We can't back out now.

mhm...u know awe i hv a certain respect for u on mocpages due to the fact u r the only one who matches my general intelligence(i seem much cleverer in welsh)
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| August 28, 2009, 5:39 pm
Quoting Awesome-o-saurus The Not-So-Great

We have laws against it, but do we use our power to stop it elsewhere? No. And who do you think made all the shoes, cell phones, soccer balls, rugs, whatever? Does the fact many of these things were made by morraly horrid means stop you from buying them?

Also, China isn't communist anymore. They're moving to more of a capitalist stance. Still not there yet, though.

we do not have the power to force other countries to do what we want,but we should work towards making our own goods again.
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| August 28, 2009, 5:39 pm
Quoting Awesome-o-saurus The Not-So-Great

It's not only China. It's Pakistan, India, Indonesia, Malaysia, in fact, it's most south east Asian states.

The point is, the war with the UNE is on. We can't back out now.

im not saying we can back out. i am just dicussing why the reason for this war was bad and that we were not the good guys
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| August 28, 2009, 5:43 pm
no offence but brits were using them centuries bk and ur related to brits if ur american
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| August 28, 2009, 5:45 pm
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Quoting Colonel Talon
im not saying we can back out. i am just dicussing why the reason for this war was bad and that we were not the good guys


No one is ever the good guy, or bad guy. We all have our reasons. From a neutral veiw, it would seem the COP is arrogant in assuming they can just force their ways upon all others and expect no one to resist. But I am the COP (one of three, that is), so I say we can do what we please. This is our galaxy, and we will rule it! /evil laugh/

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| August 28, 2009, 5:46 pm
Quoting Awesome-o-saurus The Not-So-Great

No one is ever the good guy, or bad guy. We all have our reasons. From a neutral veiw, it would seem the COP is arrogant in assuming they can just force their ways upon all others and expect no one to resist. But I am the COP (one of three, that is), so I say we can do what we please. This is our galaxy, and we will rule it! /evil laugh/

ok i can accept that answer lol. so now that that is ettled back to weapon tech lol
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| August 28, 2009, 5:49 pm
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Quoting Father Khal
no offence but brits were using them centuries bk and ur related to brits if ur american


American Revolution seperates us. And we don't use them any more. That's the main point.
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| August 28, 2009, 5:49 pm
Quoting Father Khal
no offence but brits were using them centuries bk and ur related to brits if ur american

umm what are you talking about lol
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| August 28, 2009, 5:52 pm
Quoting Father Khal
no offence but brits were using them centuries bk and ur related to brits if ur american

umm wat r u talking about lol?
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| August 28, 2009, 5:54 pm
Quoting Awesome-o-saurus The Not-So-Great

American Revolution seperates us. And we don't use them any more. That's the main point.

yeah but it wasnt as different tho...and it might prove that countries like that are going to develop in like a 100 years depending on the rulers
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| August 28, 2009, 5:54 pm
Quoting Colonel Talon
umm wat r u talking about lol?

sweatshops
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| August 28, 2009, 5:56 pm
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Quoting Father Khal
yeah but it wasnt as different tho...and it might prove that countries like that are going to develop in like a 100 years depending on the rulers


We'll see...
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| August 28, 2009, 5:57 pm
Quoting Father Khal
sweatshops

oh kk well im gona sign off for now, gotta go somewhere.
tommarrow ill post some great tech ideas
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| August 28, 2009, 5:57 pm
Quoting Spencer Pearce
like your particle shield!

remember my anti plasma shield?
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| August 28, 2009, 6:43 pm
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