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I was thinking that we should have a thread for new weapon suggestions. The Coalition could always expand its' variety of arms. So, my idea is a super-magnetic rod used by soldiers to disarm their opponets. I've said that once in an old account (brickdude).
So, any ideas? (BTW, Im not sure if this is official yet, but im hoping the admins will approve of this...and the mods too of course!)
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| October 11, 2009, 4:01 pm
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Quoting Malicious Disease
So, my idea is a super-magnetic rod used by soldiers to disarm their opponets.

It's a good idea, but could use some work.

1: Where are the troopers going to get the power to run such a device?

2: What will happen to the weapons carried by Coalition forces?
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| October 12, 2009, 11:13 am
Quoting Malicious Disease
I was thinking that we should have a thread for new weapon suggestions. The Coalition could always expand its' variety of arms. So, my idea is a super-magnetic rod used by soldiers to disarm their opponents.

Another problem is that the magnetism might interfere with Coalition Tech. (Which is fine with me, seeing that I'm an UNEy!)
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| October 12, 2009, 8:51 pm
Quoting Matt The Backward One
Another problem is that the magnetism might interfere with Coalition Tech. (Which is fine with me, seeing that I'm an UNEy!)

Directs it in straight arc to target.
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| October 12, 2009, 10:07 pm
Quoting Anders Hognerud
Quoting Malicious Disease
So, my idea is a super-magnetic rod used by soldiers to disarm their opponets.

It's a good idea, but could use some work.

1: Where are the troopers going to get the power to run such a device?

2: What will happen to the weapons carried by Coalition forces?

1.A rechargable battery-magnet pack.
2.It directs its energy in a arc the way it is pointed, in an arc about 5-6 feet wide.
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| October 12, 2009, 10:09 pm
Quoting Malicious Disease
Directs it in straight arc to target.

'Eeek!' *Hides behind John Moffat*

Quoting Malicious Disease
It directs its energy in a arc the way it is pointed, in an arc about 5-6 feet wide.

So you use a set of counter-magnets to point the rod at the desired target?

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| October 12, 2009, 10:14 pm
Quoting Nathan Jacobson
You seem to keep saying that, I don't think anyone cares.

I just like rubbing in that I'm a member of the U.N.E., and I'm proud to be one! :P
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| October 12, 2009, 10:16 pm
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I got an Idea for a new weapon: How about a gravity grenade that implodes, crushing everything within 6 metres of the blast. Useful 4 taking down vehicles. Just lob the grenade through the open window of a UNE army truck, and watch it crumple in on itself.

Or what about an absorber shield installed on vehicles that basically absorbs energy based weapon fire?
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| October 12, 2009, 10:50 pm
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Maybe the magnet gun thingy should be on vehicle instead. I reckon it would use up too much energy.

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| October 12, 2009, 10:52 pm
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So what do the Mods or Admins think about the Grav grenade? I'll get Awsome Saurus The Not So Great to put some sort of scientific explanation behind it.
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| October 12, 2009, 11:14 pm
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Quoting Nathan Jacobson
Quoting danny morgan
So what do the Mods or Admins think about the Grav grenade? I'll get Awsome Saurus The Not So Great to put some sort of scientific explanation behind it.
Think I could make some of these "grav 'nades"?

Sounds good, I haven't decided how 2 make them yet. maybe a black cylendrical brick with a small black torch piece stuck on top?

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| October 12, 2009, 11:26 pm
Well, I have grav-missiles on an old cruiser of mine. The thing is, for something to have enough gravity to crush something, it would need more gravity than the planet it's being used on. That wouldn't work. It's like the nuclear grenade.
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| October 12, 2009, 11:27 pm
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Well, heres my 2 cents!

1. Micro-wave weaponry:
You ever put a chicken in a microwave and instead of pressing 2:00 you accidentally press 20:00, well do the same thing for the baddies! We don't literally put them in a microwave, we just use a microwave emitting gun to fry/cook/burn the U.N.E.

2.Electricity
Large electric firing gun, need I say more?

3.Sonic Weaponry
Get something that emits a super-sonic sound wave that sends the U.N.E. home with a headache, and bleeding ears :P

4. RYNO
Ratchet & Clank anyone?

Such weapons as the Microwave gun and the Electricity gun can be found here: http://www.mocpages.com/moc.php/157587
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| October 13, 2009, 5:19 am
Quoting Sam Nineham
Flame grilled U.N.E., anybody?

Uh, no thanks. I don't eat my own kind.
(No matter how they're prepared.)
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| October 13, 2009, 11:06 am
Quoting Sam Nineham
I bet you would if we cut your supply lines!

I....might.

But of course, all U.N.E. Ships (or at least mine) has a Garden Chamber for growing food.
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| October 13, 2009, 11:22 am
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Quoting Matt The Backward One
I....might.

But of course, all U.N.E. Ships (or at least mine) has a Garden Chamber for growing food.

What if the Garden and engines get obliterated in a space battle, and you would have to do a hasty retreat?
Drifting in space, without food for a long, long time...

'Glad I just ate dinner.
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| October 13, 2009, 11:30 am
Quoting Sam Nineham
But if your Life support malfunctions and just filters out the CO2 completely, your plants can't grow. Therefore killing them. Therefore Killing YOU!

Quoting Anders Hognerud
What if the Garden and engines get obliterated in a space battle, and you would have to do a hasty retreat?
Drifting in space, without food for a long, long time...

'Glad I just ate dinner.

I doubt either of those would coincidentally happen to the C.O.P.'s advantage. But if it did happen, consider me de@d.
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| October 13, 2009, 11:36 am
Quoting Sam Nineham

Well, If you had Hammer of Thyr, Twin Atlantic, Fortress of Silence and the Trafalgar Supercarrier -to name a few- attacking your ship, then you would have the problem Anders mentioned.

If ALL THAT happened, then my entire ship would be obliterated.

.....




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| October 13, 2009, 11:42 am
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Quoting Matt The Backward One
If ALL THAT happened, then my entire ship would be obliterated.

.....




In other words: PWNT.
:P
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| October 13, 2009, 11:44 am
Quoting Phazezorz .
This is a magnet gun, right?

It's just going to pull in all weapons within a certain vicinity.

Can't direct Magnetism.

And, it would eat up a massive amount of energy. Unless you find a way for the energy in the battery to replenish itself automatically, you're going to run out within a few minutes of usage.
its only for a short amount of time usage. then you switch back to good ol' rifles.

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| October 13, 2009, 5:22 pm
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Quoting Nathan Jacobson
You seem to keep saying that, I don't think anyone cares.


I don't care.
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| October 13, 2009, 9:38 pm
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Quoting Phazezorz .
...

Ok.

But still, it'll still suck in any nearby weapons.


That depends on how powerful the magnet is.
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| October 13, 2009, 9:39 pm
Quoting Phazezorz .
...

Ok.

But still, it'll still suck in any nearby weapons.
yeah, you DO have to spread out...

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| October 13, 2009, 9:41 pm
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Quoting John Moffat
Well, I have grav-missiles on an old cruiser of mine. The thing is, for something to have enough gravity to crush something, it would need more gravity than the planet it's being used on. That wouldn't work. It's like the nuclear grenade.

Well remember this is like 2 centuries from now, and if you think how far we've come in the last 2 hundred years: from hourse drawn carts, musket guns, and oil lamps, to space travel, I-phones, laptops, and weapons of mass destruction. Anythings possible.


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| October 13, 2009, 9:58 pm
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Quoting Ben Kelly (BK)
Well, heres my 2 cents!

1. Micro-wave weaponry:
You ever put a chicken in a microwave and instead of pressing 2:00 you accidentally press 20:00, well do the same thing for the baddies! We don't literally put them in a microwave, we just use a microwave emitting gun to fry/cook/burn the U.N.E.

2.Electricity
Large electric firing gun, need I say more?

3.Sonic Weaponry
Get something that emits a super-sonic sound wave that sends the U.N.E. home with a headache, and bleeding ears :P

4. RYNO
Ratchet & Clank anyone?

Such weapons as the Microwave gun and the Electricity gun can be found here: http://www.mocpages.com/moc.php/157587


I like the sound of the microwave one.

I'm pretty sure that 'electricity guns' would come under 'tasers' or 'tesla guns' or 'lightening rods'.
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| October 13, 2009, 10:00 pm
Quoting Phazezorz .
It's got to be powerful enough to take a gun from a fair range, and you can't direct magnets, so it makes it hard to just go after UNE weapons.

if you want to stop a magnet getting our guns then do what the army does in x men the last stand replace metal with wood or plastic
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| October 14, 2009, 12:45 pm
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Quoting Nathan Jacobson
Quoting Cisco Da Mongoose

I don't care.
See? This guy gets it.
And I'm pretty sure that almost everyone else does too.
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| October 14, 2009, 8:00 pm
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Here are the stats for my grav'nade:

Type: chemical/high expolsive.

Characteristics: a violent implosion that causes a kind of shockwave that crushes everything close to the epicentre of the blast.

used for: special ops.

All in favour of the mass production of the gravity grenade say 'Aye!' or if you object say 'nay!' :)
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| October 14, 2009, 10:34 pm
Quoting Sam Nineham
Anyhow, does anyone remember my Napalm gel rounds? The ones that blow up sending shcrapnel and super sticky napalm gel in all directions. The napalm gel burns continously, until it has burned through whatever it's burning. Flame grilled UNE, anybody?


Does anyone remember my Thermogel filling?
Us UNE've had that stuff for ages.
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| October 15, 2009, 7:26 pm
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Quoting Areetsa C

Does anyone remember my Thermogel filling?
Us UNE've had that stuff for ages.


I remember, but I've been here since forever. Well, not as long as some... But I've been here a while. Since the Fed Flood.

Oh, good idea Awesome!

Generation 1: Pre-new MOCpages COP (???-December, 2008)
Generation 2: New MOCpages group COP (December 2008-Febuary 2009)
Generation 3: Fed Flood COP ("Fed"uary 2009-March 2009)
Generation 4: Post-Fed Flood COP (March 2009-May 2009)
Generation 5: The summer joiners COP (June 2009-August 2009)
Generation 6: The school year joiners COP (September 2009-One year anniversary?)

Does that work?
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| October 16, 2009, 12:25 am
Quoting Awesome-o-saurus The Not-So-Great

I remember, but I've been here since forever. Well, not as long as some... But I've been here a while. Since the Fed Flood.

Oh, good idea Awesome!

Generation 1: Pre-new MOCpages COP (???-December, 2008)
Generation 2: New MOCpages group COP (December 2008-Febuary 2009)
Generation 3: Fed Flood COP ("Fed"uary 2009-March 2009)
Generation 4: Post-Fed Flood COP (March 2009-May 2009)
Generation 5: The summer joiners COP (June 2009-August 2009)
Generation 6: The school year joiners COP (September 2009-One year anniversary?)

Does that work?


Pretty well.
Of course, I'm really just here to point the laughing finger of derision at some of the more over-the-top ideas your crew get.

Tell me, is the contents of this thread normal, or do your members get hare-brained schemes to rival anything the E- 'un-named faction' used to come up with?

I'm assuming the earthquake bomb on the COP wiki is the idea of a rogue member, of course.
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| October 16, 2009, 12:50 am
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Quoting Areetsa C

Pretty well.
Of course, I'm really just here to point the laughing finger of derision at some of the more over-the-top ideas your crew get.

Tell me, is the contents of this thread normal, or do your members get hare-brained schemes to rival anything the E- 'un-named faction' used to come up with?

I'm assuming the earthquake bomb on the COP wiki is the idea of a rogue member, of course.


Yea, none of us admins have endorsed these crazy E-censored-eqsue ideas (the napalm gel one does have merit, though), so they ain't official. Phaze has tried to keep things real, but sometimes, not even Phaze is enough.

Point is, some of these things are over the top (not all of them in this thread, and I won't name names), some of these things are reasonable.

But for some reason, I've got it in my head the COP is using the same stuff they've been using for roughly 20-10,000 years. I mean, some of my fighters have been in use for decades, even centuries. It's only natural that a few of our ships must be ancient. And if they're still using millenium old designs, then technological progress must not be that important when all technology got you was a shattered dream.

That last line refers to an unpublished COP story of mine...
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| October 16, 2009, 1:10 am
Quoting Awesome-o-saurus The Not-So-Great
But for some reason, I've got it in my head the COP is using the same stuff they've been using for roughly 20-10,000 years. I mean, some of my fighters have been in use for decades, even centuries. It's only natural that a few of our ships must be ancient. And if they're still using millenium old designs, then technological progress must not be that important when all technology got you was a shattered dream.

That last line refers to an unpublished COP story of mine...


That's the trouble with science fiction, you have to keep smashing things back lest you end up with invincible superguns and impenetrable shields.
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| October 16, 2009, 1:58 am
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Quoting Areetsa C

That's the trouble with science fiction, you have to keep smashing things back lest you end up with invincible superguns and impenetrable shields.


So true... If only Ian had computer acess right now. Then he could approve my in-depth history project. Frakking fail computers...
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| October 16, 2009, 2:02 am
Quoting Awesome-o-saurus The Not-So-Great

So true... If only Ian had computer acess right now. Then he could approve my in-depth history project. Frakking fail computers...


You've really been exerting yourself thinking up your universe's background.

I'm certainly glad mine doesn't have nearly as many fiddly bits.




Oh.. wait a moment.. temporary alliance.. tech exchange...

That's right, you already have a 'supernapalm', don't you?
You borrowed it.

Well, good to know the enhanced version wasn't ready for issue back then.
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| October 16, 2009, 2:06 am
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Quoting Areetsa C

You've really been exerting yourself thinking up your universe's background.

I'm certainly glad mine doesn't have nearly as many fiddly bits.




Oh.. wait a moment.. temporary alliance.. tech exchange...

That's right, you already have a 'supernapalm', don't you?
You borrowed it.

Well, good to know the enhanced version wasn't ready for issue back then.


I'm a writer, that's what I do. Write. Sadly, High School English does not require creative talent... My skills go to waste at school.

And the tech exchange. We knew it wouldn't last forever, so we didn't give you our best stuff. Probably, old, second rate stuff from a long time ago. We keep the past's best stuff for ourselves. Not on peice of the Great Crusade's era technology is in your hands. Not one.
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| October 16, 2009, 2:13 am
Quoting Awesome-o-saurus The Not-So-Great

I'm a writer, that's what I do. Write. Sadly, High School English does not require creative talent... My skills go to waste at school.

And the tech exchange. We knew it wouldn't last forever, so we didn't give you our best stuff. Probably, old, second rate stuff from a long time ago. We keep the past's best stuff for ourselves. Not on peice of the Great Crusade's era technology is in your hands. Not one.


You mean, not that you KNOW of.
For all you know, some of the stuff we gave you was designed to get up at midnight and wander around taking photos.

Or even a subfaction that's a little more sporting; 'okay cheps, let's even this out a bit, here's a disk full of warship plans'.


As for writing, well, you're certainly better than I am at it.
Of course, I don't practice much.
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| October 16, 2009, 2:19 am
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Quoting Areetsa C

You mean, not that you KNOW of.
For all you know, some of the stuff we gave you was designed to get up at midnight and wander around taking photos.

Or even a subfaction that's a little more sporting; 'okay cheps, let's even this out a bit, here's a disk full of warship plans'.


As for writing, well, you're certainly better than I am at it.
Of course, I don't practice much.


Did you give as anything? Thermogel... Not sure what else. Well, needless to say, our best technology is beyond our own understanding, we just hope it works. Kinda sad, in a way. Like giving Emperor Justinian I of the Eastern Roman Empire a set of WWII era German tanks, ammunition, and fuel, with basic instructions of how to use them. So many things could go wrong, but at least it's an advantage.

Of course, that's like giving WWII Germans Halo weaponry.. Or even beyond, really. Hey, at least the Eastern Romans had flamethrowers.
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| October 16, 2009, 2:27 am
Quoting Awesome-o-saurus The Not-So-Great

Did you give as anything? Thermogel... Not sure what else. Well, needless to say, our best technology is beyond our own understanding, we just hope it works. Kinda sad, in a way. Like giving Emperor Justinian I of the Eastern Roman Empire a set of WWII era German tanks, ammunition, and fuel, with basic instructions of how to use them. So many things could go wrong, but at least it's an advantage.

Of course, that's like giving WWII Germans Halo weaponry.. Or even beyond, really. Hey, at least the Eastern Romans had flamethrowers.


Mocpages wise? Nearly nothing.

In universe?
Ships, guns, missiles, armoured vehicles, computer devices, bombs, artillery, robots, all sorts.

Not the best, of course, but certainly not the worst.
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| October 16, 2009, 2:34 am
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Quoting Areetsa C

Mocpages wise? Nearly nothing.

In universe?
Ships, guns, missiles, armoured vehicles, computer devices, bombs, artillery, robots, all sorts.

Not the best, of course, but certainly not the worst.


Technically, our stuff is on par with yours. You're advancing, we've given up on that. Luckily, we have millions of worlds, and trillions of people. If we felt like it, we'd draft an army of 10 billion and send it at you. Of course, the people wouldn't like that. And you know what happens when people get angry about war...

...Hippies...
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| October 16, 2009, 2:41 am
Quoting Awesome-o-saurus The Not-So-Great

Technically, our stuff is on par with yours. You're advancing, we've given up on that. Luckily, we have millions of worlds, and trillions of people. If we felt like it, we'd draft an army of 10 billion and send it at you. Of course, the people wouldn't like that. And you know what happens when people get angry about war...

...Hippies...


Just do the Iron Reich thing; bundle the men and children into a transport and fire them into the sun, then put the women in entertainment centres for the troops.

On par with ours, huh?
That really depends on which 'us' you refer to; there's the Empire, which really doesn't care which side wins as long as they get to test new toys, and there's the UNE, which definitely cares who wins.

Guess which one you got Thermogel from?
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| October 16, 2009, 2:47 am
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Quoting Areetsa C

Just do the Iron Reich thing; bundle the men and children into a transport and fire them into the sun, then put the women in entertainment centres for the troops.

On par with ours, huh?
That really depends on which 'us' you refer to; there's the Empire, which really doesn't care which side wins as long as they get to test new toys, and there's the UNE, which definitely cares who wins.

Guess which one you got Thermogel from?


Empire?

We don't care for competing empires. The Emperor of Tarsis is the greatest, the coolest, the biggest gangsta' this side of the Orion Nebula. Oh, and all that COP state-worship stuff.

And I like the Iron Reich idea... Though it'd have to be discreet. Hmm... Perhaps just putting all the men into the military/factories would be best, while the womenfolk worked the entertainment. The most succesful get a nice goverment job.

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| October 16, 2009, 2:51 am
Quoting Awesome-o-saurus The Not-So-Great

Empire?

We don't care for competing empires. The Emperor of Tarsis is the greatest, the coolest, the biggest gangsta' this side of the Orion Nebula. Oh, and all that COP state-worship stuff.

And I like the Iron Reich idea... Though it'd have to be discreet. Hmm... Perhaps just putting all the men into the military/factories would be best, while the womenfolk worked the entertainment. The most succesful get a nice goverment job.


Well, 's not a competing empire, per se; that's the advantage of busting down a door in the walls between alternate universes; you can wander in, have a look around, mebbe fire off a few missiles to see what happens, then duck back and barricade the door.

If you lose, you lose, you just close the gateway and find a less hostile universe to exploit.

Of course, the fact you don't actually know how the technology works is unimportant.
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| October 16, 2009, 2:56 am
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Quoting Areetsa C

Well, 's not a competing empire, per se; that's the advantage of busting down a door in the walls between alternate universes; you can wander in, have a look around, mebbe fire off a few missiles to see what happens, then duck back and barricade the door.

If you lose, you lose, you just close the gateway and find a less hostile universe to exploit.

Of course, the fact you don't actually know how the technology works is unimportant.


Oh no, not alternate realites! Before you know it, you'll have so much stuff going on, even King Leonidas would admit it was madness. Well, at least you know limits, unlike some around here...
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| October 16, 2009, 2:58 am
Quoting Awesome-o-saurus The Not-So-Great

Oh no, not alternate realites! Before you know it, you'll have so much stuff going on, even King Leonidas would admit it was madness. Well, at least you know limits, unlike some around here...


Yep.

You want the truth?
It's a completely ad-hoc plot device that lets me include premade Zenexabas units in the UNE-COP conflict without the imbalance caused by suddenly turning over a quarter of the galaxy to an militaristic, xenophobic expansionist faction.

As soon as the UNE and the COP have blown each other to atoms, the gadget will suddenly stop working.
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| October 16, 2009, 3:17 am
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Quoting Areetsa C

Yep.

You want the truth?
It's a completely ad-hoc plot device that lets me include premade Zenexabas units in the UNE-COP conflict without the imbalance caused by suddenly turning over a quarter of the galaxy to an militaristic, xenophobic expansionist faction.

As soon as the UNE and the COP have blown each other to atoms, the gadget will suddenly stop working.


Intriguing... If you mean the COP is xenophobic, well, it's more idealphobic. We don't like competitors to the Word of the Emperor. Well, it's going on 12:30 AM here, school night, and my newest artillery thing for something not related to the COP is finally underway, so I'll be on later today. Good night, er morning, technically.
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| October 16, 2009, 3:24 am
Quoting Awesome-o-saurus The Not-So-Great

Intriguing... If you mean the COP is xenophobic, well, it's more idealphobic. We don't like competitors to the Word of the Emperor. Well, it's going on 12:30 AM here, school night, and my newest artillery thing for something not related to the COP is finally underway, so I'll be on later today. Good night, er morning, technically.


No, I don't mean the COP. I mean my own little faction; in its universe, it owns a quarter of the galaxy and has an eye on the other three, meaning inserting it into the UNE-COP thing in the traditional manner would completely unbalance the whole thing, and that's without the various other associated factions.


Anyway, g'night. In my timezone it's eight pm, so you were right the first time.
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| October 16, 2009, 3:28 am
Quoting Anders Hognerud
Quoting Malicious Disease
So, my idea is a super-magnetic rod used by soldiers to disarm their opponets.

It's a good idea, but could use some work.

1: Where are the troopers going to get the power to run such a device?
1: solar powered

2:Only affects u.n.e tech.
2: What will happen to the weapons carried by Coalition forces?


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| October 16, 2009, 7:54 am
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