This MOC is just about the LEGO group and their policy against military brand sets. This is not to offend anyone. (If it could offend you, which I doubt it can)
If Lego were to make military related sets, would they be good, or bad? It depends on if they are careful or not. Lego has some policy about actual violence that is happening in our world today, for example, WAR. But, the Lego company says it is okay for fictional violence. Im not saying that is bad, but what if they made war fictional? For example, instead of putting actual US marines or Russian Spetznaz into the sets, why can't they make their own fictional military army? And instead of fighting a real enemy, why can't they fight aliens or robots or something fictional? Then, that way, it would fit under the fictional violence category. Thus, making it okay to produce sets like that.
About this creation
The sets: What would they look like? Well, why not have an ATV fighting an alien UFO or have a couple soldiers fighting a giant robot? I would find that perfectly okay. If I was a dad, and I was concerned about what my 7 year old son buys, would I really care about 2 guys in helmets fighting a giant robot mech thing? No, not really. Actually, I wouldn't mind at all.
The story line: What would it be like? I say something along the lines of alien invasion or an experiment gone wrong. Maybe an infection of some sort? Yeah, probably not an infection, but a guy can dream, right? Well, no... But anyway, it should be something pretty interesting, instead of "We went under the sea to find treasure and we were attacked by weird creatures." To some people that sounds okay, but for people like me, we need something more. Until I find out what that something is, all I can say is make it more interesting.
Cost: I think it depends on what the set is and how many pieces it has. Nothing too expensive, that would just kill the joy of buying Lego's first military related set (If Lego ever decides to make them.)
Well, you made it this far down into the MOC. So why not comment? I would love to hear your opinions on this subject. And if you feel that I missed something, then tell me, and I'll do my best to fix it. So until next time, keep on MOCing! -Cade
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December 6, 2012 |
Remember the Atlantis sets? That's basically what you were talking about. Either way, I think that the real military should stay out of the toy industry in general. It just wouldn't be that fun to be mowing down terrorists instead of giant squids or sharks. I guess a fake military is a pretty good idea, even though it's been done if you count Star Wars sets and all that. |
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well they did.....its called alien conquest.Actually,if you read the second latest brickjournal,it says lego doesn't want to make any weapons that look too much like military stuff.They said they couldn't make War fictional while real soldiers are dying in afghanistan or stuff.But they got a lot of requests from T/AFOLs for militaristic stuff so they're trying to keep the balance.Apparently,they tried with alien conquest,and space police,but I think they could go a little higher... |
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March 5, 2012 |
I have aliens fighting humans all the time, so whats the problem? Also, as long as a vehicle has a gun on it, it is military! |
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February 4, 2012 |
Alien Invasion has humans fighting aliens, doesn't that count? How about the new Dino sets? The minifigs have guns that somewhat resemble Starwars blaster rifles but with a holder for a syringe on top (which could easily be replaced with a scope). I like the fact that there are companies like Brickarms out there to fill the void in minifig weapons! I wish they were around when I was a kid! |
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December 31, 2011 |
@Achintya Prasad. Dude, Legos are from Denmark man. |
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December 22, 2011 |
The way I see it, TLG doesn't make "real" war lego brands because it may tick off other countries. For example, lets pretend that they make an Abrams tank and a Challenger tank, belonging to the U.S. and the U.K, respectively. Now what if a kid deceids to pit them against each other. If so, then other people may think that we are at war with the U.K., which would be bad. Also, even if they don't make name brand war machines, they will copy existing equipment. (TLG has already done this a lot like in that new Lego City set that contains a Chinook Helicopter). If they do that, then you are on the same path I described earlier. And if you really, really want military Legos, you have to choices: A) Buy a Brand of "clone" legos such as MB and Bestlock, or B) Build your own. Yeah. |
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Oliver King December 19, 2011 |
sweet this is just a test this part ok [i like it] ignore that |
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November 27, 2011 |
A couple guys fighting a robot would be just fine with me, so why not make that? |
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I have a friend who used to live in Russia, and he has TONS of lego military sets. Here we have to build military stuff on our own.
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August 28, 2011 |
I agree! They do need to make military sets. They have Lego Indiana Jones and there were Nazis in those sets. There are six year olds who play with army action figures and they probably have Legos as well. So why not Lego military? |
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June 17, 2011 |
great points and like every one says lego has fan base of people across the world where there is allot of conflict but your idea for the sets themselves the whole fictional violence and fictional army fighting robots or aliens I think exforce did that and also lego dose make gun acessoarys for minifigs |
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April 9, 2011 |
You make good points... Lego has a worldwide following, so it is really easy to offend someone. I am pretty sure they have thought of it though. They are mostly trying to sell sets to kids, even though there are probably just as many adults buying them too! Oh well, thats what we have MOCpages for. If Lego made all the cool stuff you see on here, It wouldn't be fun to make and post your own MOCs. Am I right? |
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December 28, 2010 |
I agree with all of that the soldiers could have like some kind of awsome armor or something that looks modern military-ish Lego should really do some of thoose things if they want more people to buy sets |
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December 27, 2010 |
I don't think Lego's opposition to military sets is about the violence involved, but more about being sensitive towards those who have experienced the affects of real-life wars. |
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That would be much liek Exo-Force or any futuristic war-thingy. In fact, they were on the edge with classic castle. No good guys, no bad guys, just people killing each other. About military sets: there's green army men, right? |
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I agree but people spaz out about Halo and I guess that's okay and LEGO would really have to downsize that to become a series. That would be ultimately cheesy just like space police. And any wars from the end of the 1800's would not be okay because those wars are all way too violent-I say that because LEGO made Colonial,and Medieval"wars" Also Civil war/Indian wars-which I think are controversial. I think it's better that LEGO doesn't make actual military/fictional military sets. Also how would they portray it? Lose it because if you want any thing more violent than Indiana Jones or Space Police then keep dreaming. To wrap it up I'll tell you this: Make your own things-it's way better than everyone going around with not-so-realistic LEGO sets.-This was not supposed to be offensive :) |
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October 20, 2010 |
nice dude.how do you get the plants like that?
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October 12, 2010 |
Have you seen the Toy Story Lego army men? When I saw that I just had to have, I mean if they will make army men why not make army men fighting other army men. Just with guns not included or somthing? |
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Dinos 2010 ring a bell anyone? |
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September 29, 2010 |
Quoting Vince Le
Think about it... Most sets from Lego are for ages 6-12. Now, what if Lego produces a military battlepack similar to Star Wars, except with more violence and "real" gunz, and they price it for 14+... Won't the parents see that? Those sets won't be bought. Do you see what I mean?
I see what you mean. But what if you could only buy them off of the lego website? You know, where there is some kind of parental warning, saying something like "Only Appropriate for ages 13 and up" or something like that. Also, Im not wanting Lego to make ACTUAL military sets, but like I stated, something like human vs. Robot with real vehicles. |
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Think about it... Most sets from Lego are for ages 6-12. Now, what if Lego produces a military battlepack similar to Star Wars, except with more violence and "real" gunz, and they price it for 14+... Won't the parents see that? Those sets won't be bought. Do you see what I mean? |
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September 29, 2010 |
Quoting Vince Le
"This MOC is just about the LEGO group and their policy against military brand sets" - Indiana Jones? :D - - - Okay, so my main point on making this comment on this MOC is that I really don't think this is a true MOC, as you stated "just"... I'm "just" thinking if you could make another one of these "MOCs" about the debate about how some people really dislike MOCs that are not really "MOCs" (Guess who) and are just made to make somebody's point... Such as this "MOC". Good luck to you... (There's another MOC of yours... Guess which one. Is it your most liked MOC?)
Hmm... so those "Vigs" I put on here aren't MOCs.... I get what you're saying. THIS IS A MOC! How many times do I have to spell it out for you guys? Gawd.... |
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"This MOC is just about the LEGO group and their policy against military brand sets" - Indiana Jones? :D - - - Okay, so my main point on making this comment on this MOC is that I really don't think this is a true MOC, as you stated "just"... I'm "just" thinking if you could make another one of these "MOCs" about the debate about how some people really dislike MOCs that are not really "MOCs" (Guess who) and are just made to make somebody's point... Such as this "MOC". Good luck to you... (There's another MOC of yours... Guess which one. Is it your most liked MOC?) |
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September 19, 2010 |
I wish they would make them. But yeah, they have a policy against realistic weapons and violence. If they made military sets, they should have it so that you can only order online, and there was a parental warning. Like a Teen rating, and they'd somewhat make sense since you give LEGO your age and other info... |
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September 5, 2010 |
How about like an apoc brand zombies vs. marines sort of thing??? eh eh? |
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September 1, 2010 |
Don't they already make military sets? It's mainly sci-fi though, which is ok. If it was the World Wars, that'd be another story. |
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Vikings pillaged, murdered, raped and robbed. Pirates pillaged, murdered, raped and robbed. Medieval soldiers pillaged, murdered, raped and robbed. I would say that Lego has been making historical violence based - AKA Military - sets for a long time. It is just politically correct to stop sometime in the 17th Century. |
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August 29, 2010 |
Quoting Matthew Novosad
But if in the future there are Robots and LEGO is making sets of them wouldn't they be offended?
XD thats the point.... |
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But if in the future there are Robots and LEGO is making sets of them wouldn't they be offended? |
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August 29, 2010 |
In the past, Lego Company have made Exo-Force witch are humans fighting fictional characters like robots but if you were to look closly at some of the sets like Agents witch is humans fighting humans whilst using toy guns.
They have capped an age rating of under 12 years on these sets but I still think it portrays a form of violence |
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August 28, 2010 |
I wish Lego would make an alien invasion theme! That would be pretty cool.
@ Kriss Olmpis: Brickarms almost got sued by making a minifigure that looks like a terorist. Lego doesn't want to get involved in making swastica stickers or Saddam Hussein/Alqueda minifigures. |
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August 28, 2010 |
some nice points there but they made the toy army man set |
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August 28, 2010 |
I totaly agree! An alien invasion scenario would be nice, rather than the whole "we went to mars and found evil aliens" thing. I wonder if they would ever consider releasing like a WWII, or Korean War Medal of Honor comemorative series... =) |
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Spencer The Soccer Player August 27, 2010 |
Jolly good idea mate. I hope lego does something like this. Would make my life a ton easier. |
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Henry Tracey August 27, 2010 |
It is ridonculous. The original point of lego when it was founded was that it was it no way violent, hence the policy, Now, however, we have agents with guns, toy story soldiers with guns batman, with guns....the list goes on and on. The policy has already been blown out of the water, and it's just gesture politics that they have no military sets. |
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Falco .(CSM) August 27, 2010 |
pretty cool. where'sd you get teh helmet? |
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why do you need sets. The point of legos is that you can make your own favorite things. If you need ideas, check out the many military groups on this site and others.
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August 27, 2010 |
I dunno. Might be cool. |
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August 27, 2010 |
Quoting Ronan Dragonov
Unnecessary. Why wait for LEGO to produce military sets when one can MOC their own.
I feel like Lego should try making fictional military sets before we have this discussion. |
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Unnecessary. Why wait for LEGO to produce military sets when one can MOC their own. |
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August 27, 2010 |
well they make legos with weapons, so why not make military lego? i think its a good idea, and besides, they make model military things! consider it people! |
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August 27, 2010 |
*sigh* Some people just don't get it. Would some of you guys be offended by a Nazi minifig? If you say no, I garuntee you that most people would be. Would be be angry if they made terrorist lego minifigs with bombs strapped on to them? Yeah... I thought so. |
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August 27, 2010 |
I dissagree because they wouldnt actullay be making violence just simulating violence. and besides there legos no ones being hurt because of it so why worry |
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August 27, 2010 |
I've heard somewhere that the original creator left green out of the the sets [ :( ] to avoid going into military. I always saw starwars as a normal thing until now. There's alot of violence in the starwars episodes. They even made a set of the nasty scene when the new darth vader was getting the dead kin peeled off of him. I have it to prove it. And this MOC makes perfect sense. I agree. 4/5! ~Stay green my friends |
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August 27, 2010 |
I have always wanted that. I would love if lego made military sets.
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August 27, 2010 |
Hmm, I think that lego would be fine making a few sets in a war related theme, and then if that went over well, then they could start making more, and more, and more, and so on. I think they are too worried about people getting upset about lego turning "violent" or something. But isn't lego star wars violent? I mean really... How is it that much more violent, since lego doesn't show gore anyway? ~Waff |
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August 27, 2010 |
hmm good point. lego would benefit with a new theme or idea instead on going on with stuff that obviously only a small age group would enjoy. like atlantis..... WE ALL KNOW IT IS A MYTH, RIGHT???? it they made a military theme it would open a new age group and they might FINALLY create a bunch more new pieces. |
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The oficial Lego attitude might have been understandable many years ago, but with the current branding/licensing of SW and Indiana Jones (just to mention a few) contemporal-looking weapon-pieces are practically within reach, and I dont see any reason why to negate one of the most important aspects of our life, namely the armed forces. Millions of people earn their living working in one. -And they have children also... |
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August 27, 2010 |
I agree, maybe something like zombies? That way, they can make the sets have those little 'comedy' bits they put in, such as: 'Lower the spiked wall and make the zombie walk in to it!' If you know what I mean. Plus, then they can use the new minifig they made. |
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War is war and plastic is plastic. |
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By that I mean I would have preferred it to be colored like a normal fighter. |
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August 27, 2010 |
I can't say that I was over-joyed when Lego came out with, for all intents and purposes, a military fighter, but in Red-and-white like a carnival show. But it would put Lego in an awkward position. One, even if we blitzed them with calls, they wouldn't come out with it. They are badly politically correct with 'Renewable Energy' turbines and smartcar sets. It's against their nature. |
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Brendan Dore August 26, 2010 |
@Jaun: I loved Dino Attack! |
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Private Henderson August 26, 2010 |
They should most definetly make LEGO miliary sets! WWI WWII WWIII... They should have lots of things! I mean look at Indiana Jones. 5/5 |
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August 26, 2010 |
They've actually come out with a second Dino Attack in Germany. |
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August 26, 2010 |
They had Exo-Force out for a while and that was their own invented human vs. robot war, sort of. |
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August 26, 2010 |
That's what TLG actually do, if you've noticed near to none of their themes have a direct human vs. human conflict. The closest LEGO has come to modern military is probably Dino Attack. |
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August 26, 2010 |
Hey Cade! Thanks for the comment. I totally agree they should have fictional military type things. That would be freakin awesome. |
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August 26, 2010 |
nice, is that enough commenting! On a serious note, nice |
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August 26, 2010 |
you've got a good point, they should keep it as non-political as possible, if they were to do this. I don't know if aliens are necessary, but they shouldn't name countries or make it overly reflective of actual conflicts. food for thought... |
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August 26, 2010 |
i agree 100% but most of the people here agree because they like to build military related mocs. my idea is for lego try it first. maybe put an ad on lego.com or make it a new set coming out that you can preorder and if they get enough preorders, they make it a whole new line, if they get only a few preorders, they fill those, and then shut it down. |
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August 26, 2010 |
And if Lego did make WW1,2,ect. small businesses would go out of business (Like Brickmania, maybe Brickarms, ect.). |
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August 26, 2010 |
I agree Lego does need to make Military sets but i think the Indy sets are as close to Military sets that Lego will make but yea why not a "Lego Military" fighting a different "Lego Military" or robot or something? And does Lego have a policy on Military sets? |
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August 26, 2010 |
Quoting Histo Sci
As if the British Navy vs. Pirates is so fictional? Real or fake, the closer we get to LEGO war, the better!
In a way, the Lego company is trying to make that as fictional as possible, so in a way, still fictional. |
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August 26, 2010 |
As if the British Navy vs. Pirates is so fictional? Real or fake, the closer we get to LEGO war, the better! |
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August 26, 2010 |
Quoting Cpl. Matt S.
I think that the Lego group should at least make world war 1 military sets because you'll mostly be building trenches and the violence won't be as much.
I think that they would have to make the Germans if they made WWI sets, and some people would get offended by that. |
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August 26, 2010 |
hmmm.. i see your point, cade. |
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August 26, 2010 |
I think it that it mostly matters on how violent or non-violent stuff like this can get, I mean I totally understand it would be ok if it was something like soldier vs alien and what not but it depends who is buying that. I think that the Lego group should at least make world war 1 military sets because you'll mostly be building trenches and the violence won't be as much. |
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