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Work in progress Citroen DS
Not finished yet but here is what will be a fairly good approximation of my favourite car of all time; the Citroen DS
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This is now finished so go see it at
http://www.mocpages.com/moc.php/299501

Nick Barrett's glorious and ultra realistic DS is my main inspiration for doing my own DS. I lack the Lego and skill to do doors so I'll leave them out. It is also my first real trial with new fangled curvy and bendy Lego. Like CGI in films I think it's great but should be used sparingly. It can't do everything old Lego can do. Unlike, Nick Barrett's realism, I've tried to suggest the swoops and and lines of the DS by being abstract and leaving bits out. Few tweaks still to go but I'm getting there.



Mechanically, I'm quite pleased with what I've managed to get in and because the scale (in keeping with the massive wheels) is so big, there's even room for a spare wheel, just like the real DS. My dad used to have a Citroen BX when I was a kid and so I always tried to incorporate pneumatic suspension in my Lego cars. It works quite well here, although the weight is a struggle. for the engine I've cheated and used the modern, self contained pistons and cylinders (a bit small in scale but then the old square pistons would be too big) and I bought spare parts and got the latest specialised front wheel drive units. I'm a bit disappointed with those, actually. The drive and suspension travel are fine but the steering travel is appalling and my creation consequently, has the turning circle of the Titanic. The swiveling headlights work a treat, though. Also I can't wait to show the seats which have a proper reclining mechanism. This is my first, trial upload but more photos and tech spec, when I've finished. I also have a smaller Technic car which I have finished which I'll upload in the next, few days. Dashboard and adjustments to the boot and engine are all there there all to do.



Comments

 I made it 
  November 19, 2011
Quoting Nils O. Keep on, Barney! This one is getting great. 4 smileys from me for now. You'll get the fifth one when it's finished :-))
Thanks. Huge delays finishing it. I spent the last few weeks completely overhauling the front suspension and steering. Then, persuaded by a comment here, I've made some doors. Now I want to add working lights but the Power functions leds don't connect onto my old battery box and switch. Looking good though, but weighs a ton. Should be ready to show once some extra parts arrive.
 I like it 
  November 11, 2011
Keep on, Barney! This one is getting great. 4 smileys from me for now. You'll get the fifth one when it's finished :-))
 I made it 
  September 12, 2011
Quoting Nick Barrett I've re-posted my old Citroen DS so you can see it : http://www.mocpages.com/moc.php/286947
Ah, thanks a lot. It's like having Haynes manual for my car.
 I like it 
  September 11, 2011
Hi. i was working on the independant front-wheel suspension I was talking about, then I noticed that the steering angle isn't that much also (28°) . I would say : take a look at the picture. If it's still worth, I'll work further on http://images.mocpages.com/user_images/75180/1315771995m_SPLASH.jpg
  September 11, 2011
Good looking thus far - it'll be difficult to beat Nick's DS, but it's still looking like it'll be a great creation when done. No rating yet, but well on course for a high score. Best of luck
 I like it 
  September 11, 2011
I've re-posted my old Citroen DS so you can see it : http://www.mocpages.com/moc.php/286947
 I made it 
  September 9, 2011
Quoting Joost Cumps Maybe I can help with a recreation of a independent suspension with drive I once tested for TT. Wasn't that wide , and gave a decent turning circle. I search some time to do that.
Yes please do suggest anything. I've seen some clever ideas out there. The hardest thing about homemade front drive is finding a strong enough arm to link to the steering.
 I made it 
  September 9, 2011
Quoting Vincent Rozenberg I like it ,it looks great are you going to fill in the spaces above the wheels or leave them empty?
Thanks. I'm still in 2 minds about panels. I won't do doors but I think I should do something about the rear wheel panels. Trouble the blockiness would cancel out the curve of the bendy parts.
  September 9, 2011
I like it ,it looks great are you going to fill in the spaces above the wheels or leave them empty?
 I like it 
  September 9, 2011
Maybe I can help with a recreation of a independent suspension with drive I once tested for TT. Wasn't that wide , and gave a decent turning circle. I search some time to do that.
 I like it 
  September 8, 2011
Like Mr. Barrett; Anything with a taste of lemon (Citron=lemon in danish, sorry) always wet my appetite! ;-) Looks good. I would get rid of the bendy Technic elements altogether (hateŽem) and go for a complete bodywork WITH the doors! (Oh, BTW; I do realize that "a lemon" also means a really bad car in english. No offense intented. There, look how I managed to complicate a simple "I like it" comment...)
 I made it 
  September 8, 2011
Quoting MortalSwordsman . Yes, the specialised front drive shafts are rubbish for steering. I've been looking at some clever home made solutions for drive/suspension and steering and there's some good ideas out there although I doubt anything is strong enough for the weight of this car. The 8880 set had the best all wheel drive but it can only fit a very wide wheel which doesn't quite fit here. Good luck with the doors :)
 I made it 
  September 8, 2011
Quoting Henrik Hoexbroe Like Mr. Barrett; Anything with a taste of lemon (Citron=lemon in danish, sorry) always wet my appetite! ;-) Looks good. I would get rid of the bendy Technic elements altogether (hateŽem) and go for a complete bodywork WITH the doors! (Oh, BTW; I do realize that "a lemon" also means a really bad car in english. No offense intented. There, look how I managed to complicate a simple "I like it" comment...)
Ha, ha, no offence taken. Yes, I don't rate the bendy Lego but I've never been much of a completist builder when it comes to body panels etc. and curves are so important to the DS. I've also started to run out of basic red parts, so that's the real reason for the abstract approach. Spent a couple of hours on it today, trying to get the pneumatic gear shift to work. Aside from that being more realistic it's actually easier than building a complicated gear shifter through the engine and steering.
 I like it 
  September 8, 2011
Hey Barney! Welcome to the pages. With this DS you've arrived with style. Looking very nice already! And you wouldn't know you've be in that dark age so long! Mine ended last year and I'm hooked. Looking forward to seeing this complete :)
 I like it 
  September 8, 2011
Looks great! I can't wait to see it finished!
 I like it 
  September 8, 2011
I'd be glad to help... I'll take some more pics (fortunately the model's still together - it's one of my favourites) and post them over the weekend. I'll get a close-up of the boot-lid, too.
 I made it 
  September 8, 2011
Quoting Nick Barrett First of all.. WOW! Lovely to see a truly ambitious project taking shape so well. It looks great, but then this is my favourite car :-) I'm really glad to have inspired you and thanks for the references. You've done especially well to get in the spare wheel AND turning headlights - I found on mine it had to be one or the other (the lights won!). You're right to criticize the curving Technic elements, they always make car bodies look unfinished - although you've brought out the curve of the wings very well. Your interior's better than mine, too... All in all, this is a massive work of art - bravo!
Thanks a lot. The headlight mechanism is just a another rack and pinion connected to the main steering rack but set extremely low in the undercarriage. It doesn't need to be that robust either as it's only lights. I don't suppose you could reload your DS photos actually. I'm still not that pleased with the rear and I remember you had a lovely solution for the boot lid, so I think I might have to nick that. I have to say that after making this it's just made me even more want to get a real one. At least Lego doesn't rust...
 I like it 
  September 8, 2011
WOOOOOW!!! I can't beleive my eyes... Awesome!
 I like it 
  September 7, 2011
This is looking great so far. The roof line is spot on and the curves are very nice. Although i really like new technic, I agree with your thoughts on it. You can't beat good old fashioned studded beams for certain jobs. I have recently bought pieces for a 4 wheel drive and am also disappointed with the turning circle. Good luck with the doors :)
 I like it 
  September 7, 2011
First of all.. WOW! Lovely to see a truly ambitious project taking shape so well. It looks great, but then this is my favourite car :-) I'm really glad to have inspired you and thanks for the references. You've done especially well to get in the spare wheel AND turning headlights - I found on mine it had to be one or the other (the lights won!). You're right to criticize the curving Technic elements, they always make car bodies look unfinished - although you've brought out the curve of the wings very well. Your interior's better than mine, too... All in all, this is a massive work of art - bravo!
 
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