Independent Rear Suspension, Automatic Synchronous Transmission and Independent Front Suspension and Steering
About this creation
Various Technic Car Components
These chassis and drivetrain parts are from an unposted MOC, and before I sent it to the great Lego box in the sky I thought I'd photograph some of the components in case anyone finds them useful. The incredible Tyler Reid posted his car components a while back, but sadly all his work has disappeared from MOCpages, and whilst mine are nowhere near his level of brilliance, they might be useful to a few people nonetheless.
They are;
- Independent Rear Suspension
- Automatic Synchronous Transmission
- Independent Front Suspension and Steering
Independent Rear Suspension
Fully independent studless double wishbone suspension, using no specialised parts. The travel and stiffness can be adjusted by altering the height of the suspension towers and/or the angle of the shock absorbers. In this picture the suspension is set up with anti-roll bars for added rigidity. These make the suspension better suited for sports/supercar type applications, but knacker the boot space in a saloon/sedan!
Automatic Synchronous Transmission
This transmission is an evolution of the one found in my Rat Rod, and also in use by Polomoche Mann in his Lexus. It is, I think, the most compact 'box of it's type, and is now a stand-alone modular unit which can be applied to studded and studless building.
In this case the gearbox is set up for a front-engined, rear-wheel-drive application, as the input and output shafts are at opposite ends of the gearbox, but it could also be used in front-wheel-drive, all-wheel-drive, or mid-engined configurations.
This is an 'automatic' fully synchronized gearbox with Drive, Neutral and Reverse gears. There are 5 cogs contained inside the casing; two are utilized for one gear and three for the other. When the Neutral is selected the cogs freewheel and drive is not transfered from the input shaft to the output shaft.
The gearbox is 6 studs by 5 studs and so should fit nicely in most large scale vehicles. It's also pretty robust and can handle reasonable power and torque.
Independent Front Suspension and Steering
Fully independent studless double wishbone suspension with rack-and-pinion steering. This time specialised parts are used so it's not quite as easy a build as the rear suspension at the top of this page. The steering has been designed so the shaft runs at the lowest point of the chassis, allowing beefy engines to be placed above it : )
Complete Chassis
The whole shebang, before it was sent to Lego Car Heaven. I hope these shots are of use to some of you. Don't forget to check out some of the other Technic vehicle builders here on MOCpages to see their interpretations of supercar-style suspension and drivetrain set-ups.
Happy Building!
Ape
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April 12, 2013 |
Quoting Joost Cumps
Hello Ape, do you have further plans with these ideas? They certainly inspire me, if I ever get to building again...
Hi Joost. Great to hear from you : ) Yes, sooo many ideas, but work and biking is taking a large chunk of time. I'll be moving house soon and once that's all done I think I should be able (and motivated) to get back into building again : ) |
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Hello Ape, do you have further plans with these ideas? They certainly inspire me, if I ever get to building again... |
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March 27, 2013 |
Cool! But BTW, Tyler Reid is still on Mocpages. |
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February 19, 2013 |
Quoting Alex B
Hey Ape, I am trying to build an inline three engine. not pneumatic, just out of the normal Lego engine pieces found in 8070, 8448, 8880, you know. Anyway, it seems to be quite a challenge, the crankshaft is what I need help on. I can't seem to get one the right length, do you know anything to fix it? Thanks, Alex.
Try; cam part with axle, cam part, 2 stud axle, cam part, cam part with axle. I've just worked that out in my head so it may be wrong, but it should mean your cam shaft is the same length as the block, so you can insert an axle any length you like to connect it to whatever it's being turned by. |
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Hey Ape, I am trying to build an inline three engine. not pneumatic, just out of the normal Lego engine pieces found in 8070, 8448, 8880, you know. Anyway, it seems to be quite a challenge, the crankshaft is what I need help on. I can't seem to get one the right length, do you know anything to fix it? Thanks, Alex. |
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November 1, 2012 |
Very complicated. Could be very useful though. :D |
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November 1, 2012 |
Great work :) Very complicate, I usually just use the same chassis for all my cars, with the same steering system and no suspension... the rear wheels are just stck on ;) |
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October 10, 2012 |
ravishingly beautiful! |
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October 7, 2012 |
Quoting Nick Barrett
See you there at 3 we will be at the frount of the Steam building.
OK, see you then |
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See you there at 3 we will be at the frount of the Steam building. |
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... I hope so. I assume the shops will be empty but I would like to meet up with everyone. |
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October 7, 2012 |
Oh, so 3:00 would be OK? I can get there for 3:00! did you bring any models with you? |
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October 7, 2012 |
Quoting Nick Barrett
Hi Ape, it's Nick and. Alex, we are at Steam, are you here yet!
Hi Nick - sorry, my 'maybe' for Sunday had to become a no - I should have gone yesterday! I could get there today for about 3:00, but I think that would be way too late : ( Still, if you want to meet up before Christmas, maybe with DeT and MortalS, give me a shout |
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October 7, 2012 |
Nick, Change of plan. I am gonna grab some lunch and chuck the kids in the car and get there asap. hopefully be there for about 3 ish |
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Hi Ape, it's Nick and. Alex, we are at Steam, are you here yet! |
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September 30, 2012 |
Quoting Marcus Paul
Wow, this looks really ingenious! But since the car itself is missing, I can give you only 4 smilies. Just kidding, Ape ;-) Anyway: We. Want. The. AMG! We. Want. The. AMG!
I'm reconsidering the Merc - it did look pretty cool |
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September 28, 2012 |
Cool! I like the way you've made the front end! Excellent work! |
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White Knight September 27, 2012 |
So impressive !>.....well done |
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September 27, 2012 |
Great work! |
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September 27, 2012 |
Great work! |
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Great page and thanks for the mention! These three things are all highly functional but unspecialised enough to be included in any car.
They're all well-built and its great to see a page offering so much technical help :-) |
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September 26, 2012 |
Very nice to see a MOC from you again!The rear axle suspension mechanism helps me very much,but not the front one.Anyway,great and helpful MOC! |
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September 26, 2012 |
Wow, this looks really ingenious! But since the car itself is missing, I can give you only 4 smilies. Just kidding, Ape ;-) Anyway: We. Want. The. AMG! We. Want. The. AMG! |
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September 26, 2012 |
Nice technical tid-bits here Ape, shame they were canned, they look promising! |
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September 26, 2012 |
Yeah, those are some great Technic modules, a cool backbone for a large scale chassis. I love the idea with the modules adaptable to different sizes of a chassis. The rear suspension is especially clever having in mind that you only used "normal" Technic parts. Great job! :-)) |
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September 26, 2012 |
Aaah, I see.... awesome sauce! |
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September 26, 2012 |
Amazing. If I had all of the neccesary parts, I would definitely use this design. I would love to see this in a car model! |
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September 26, 2012 |
;o nice! |
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September 25, 2012 |
Quoting Nick Barrett
... A Merc SEL with F1 tyres ?
It wasn't exactly a standard road car... : )
Clue; 'Red Pig' |
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September 25, 2012 |
... A Merc SEL with F1 tyres ? Never mind, this from a man who uses truck tyres on his sports cars... Anyhoo, some neat, elegant solutions here; would love to see the whole car. |
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September 25, 2012 |
Quoting Senator Chinchilla .
Okay, now that I'm over the shock, these are actually pretty cool. Makes me want to go build a good old-fashion technic-y sedan. I especially like the back axle, adaptability is always good. What WAS it going to be before you canned it? =P
Hi Senator. It was a late '60s- early '70s Mercedes-Benz SEL V8. Maybe it'll get posted one day
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September 25, 2012 |
Great to see a moc from you. I really like the v shape suspension mounts on the front axle. |
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September 25, 2012 |
Wait... Ape posted a MOC??? I... I don't know what to do... this.... this never happens. *Runs in terror* About 2 hours later: Okay, now that I'm over the shock, these are actually pretty cool. Makes me want to go build a good old-fashion technic-y sedan. I especially like the back axle, adaptability is always good. What WAS it going to be before you canned it? =P |
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September 25, 2012 |
awesome stuff Ape! |
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September 25, 2012 |
Awesome Ape! I have created a (fully automatic ivt). I'll post some pics of it when I finish the vehicle. (Enough about me, now.) The suspension systems look great, and I do believe that to be the smallest transmission I've seen. I'm also curios about Tyler. :/ |
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