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City/Town vehicles - range of widths
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From 6w to 8w+. No need to rate this, it's just a reference. Comments are welcome, of course. Will be continued.
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Hi all,

this is a suggestion of a range of widths of vehicles suitable to be used within a town in "larger city scale", as I call it, meant to go well with the larger CC buildings like PC, GE or FB. In fact it's no exact scale (which would be very difficult) but a possibility to get a graduation between different types of vehicles supposed to go well with each other.

From right to left:

Roadster (6w), fits 2 figs side by side.

Oldtimer car (6w+ = 6w plus mudguards), fits 2 figs side by side, usual measure of vintage cars. There are vintage cars fitting 3 figs, too.

Offroader (modded 4437 SUV, 6w+), fits 1 fig, just to show that this kind of TLG car goes well with the MOCs.

Sports car (6w+), due to the special design this car (Mad Max Interceptor, recently shrunken from 7w+ to 6w+) only fits one driver and one dog which is sufficient here, this type of car is also possible with 2 figs side by side.

Full-size car (7w), fits 3 or even 4 figs, as an LCS slot car the Checker Cab is equipped with steering and rear suspension.

Full-size car, long vehicle (7w), the Ecto-1 fits 4 ghostbusters.
Bus (7w+), the usual size of trucks and buses, the School Bus fits a whole bunch of figs, Monorail trains have the same width.

Oversize truck (8w+), fits 2 figs, not to be used within the city where plain 8w vehicles don't seem to work, but as an ARFF the Faun will rarely be seen there. 8w will probably be the width of trains, too.

Will be continued. Some types of vehicles are still missing, small cars like a beetle would probably have a width of 5w+.


Combined with usual roadplates:






Comments

 I made it 
  July 11, 2014
@Nils: Thanks bud! I liked the 7w version, too, but it didn't fit into the scheme. @Gabor: Thanks a lot pal! @Sven: Many thanks bud! It's only a part of the collection, hopefully all of the cars can be presented in a larger layout soon. Guess your scheme works well, too, although I think that 4w+ is out of time now. In my opininion 5w+ for passenger cars seems to be more suitable. @Jim: Thanks a lot! @Frank: Yeah, the side mirrors can be a problem. @SF: No, no, it's got to be out of Lego. The LCS roads are even wider, otherwise the cars wouldn't get around the corner. My idea is to rather enlarge the buildings a bit than to keep the cars strictly 6w - you have many more possibilities with that. There's no 4x4 yet, only the mod you can see here, I'm just fiddling around with it. @Elk: Thank you, glad you like the scale! @Builder Allan: Thank you very much! Due to my long lasting dark ages (and no Lego left) I was intrigued by the city theme at the moment I saw danthaman11's 7w cars. @adam: Glad you like them!
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  July 7, 2014
Great stuff, cool to see them on one picture. I still prefer the 7w Interceptor, but the 6w version is extremely cool, too. Great job, pal :-))
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  July 7, 2014
Wow! Very nice collection! They look fantatic together! :)
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  July 6, 2014
This is a excellent collection my friend. I really like every model very much but the Faun is my alltime favorite :) My scale is 4 to 5 wide mudguards included for cars, 5 to 6 wide mudguards included for pickups, and 6 to 7 wide for the trucks.
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  July 6, 2014
Great stuff!
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  July 6, 2014
oups! my mistake, the garage doors are 8' wide, I got confused because my fire trucks barely pass because of the side mirrors.
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  July 6, 2014
I would buy a grey carpet and paint my own roads on it : ). Its easier and cheaper and if you have to cheat somewhere, that would be the right place to do it. I think their width was originally based on danish 8m roads so in order to fit a 6w scale car, they would have to be 26 studs vs the current 20. Lego doors for buildings as well as the modular buildings, as far as I can tell, is in scale with 6w for cars. Looking forward to seeing the 4x4.
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  July 5, 2014
Great work, you have a nice sense of scale between the vehicle sizes!
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  July 5, 2014
Very nice selection of vehicles! I very much like the details on the school bus and ecto 1. Great work :-) About the width debate: i grew up with all vehicles being 4-wide in the city-theme so to me even 6-wides are a huge leap forward.
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  July 5, 2014
nice vehicles!:D
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  July 5, 2014
Wow, thanks for your great comment Frank, very helpful. The scale also works with the usual roadplates since no vehicle is larger than 7w+, I'll upload a pic of that. I haven't tested it, but road plates are expensive, too, and I am actually using lots of used black 1x2x5 bricks which are quite cheap. There are 8w garage doors, too - no problem with the 6 and 7w vehicles. I find it much easier to deal with the SNOT roads and pavements, combining road plates and baseplates doesnt't work for me at all - and I've tried. But you're right, it's not so easy to combine layouts when the systems are that different. That's quite a disadvantage of a custom system.
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  July 5, 2014
I think it all depends on the road technique you re going to use, your scale is the most realistic, having 2 figs side by side in the vehicles, the scale is good for both figs and vehicles, as they compare well with the real scale but.... you need to build your own roads, and that s quite expensive, with a 9' x 14' layout like mine, regular road plates coverage costs me $1000 and a bit, making my own roads with bricks would be at least 2x that, the lego road plates don t allow more than 7' wide vehicles, so you have to use 4' - 5' wide cars, 6' - 7' trucks, and 8' trains, which usually does nt allow for side by side fig configuration, a scale I d call 'cartoon scale' because it does nt reflect our reality, also, one must not forget the GARAGE DOORS, which can t take more than 6' wide, but, we have to deal with the fact that figs are kind of deformed, hence, the scale difference, they are meant to be cartoons, in my opinion, both look good, but, not always practical, for a standard, road plates are easiest, as they fit with the regular base plates, it s easier to plan layouts with other people s, but, someone has yet to find a trick to have the vehicles move on the roads like you do with them, the custom built roads allow a much broader range of possibilities, it makes things much more difficult for you, the effect of moving vehicles however, is truly amazing, and adds a lot to the impression of life likeness, as for the lego range of scales, well, they must rightfully assume that, most people don t have the road plates, thus, they will never notice the scale problem, I still think the city theme is the most difficult of all, because it s the only one we have a reference to compare with, on which we have to relate to make it look right, we have no castle, or space reference to compare to, so, it s much more easy to do whatever comes to mind, without bothering to keep realistic.
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  July 5, 2014
Quoting Amarone Design I'm not sure too, wich size I will prefer for further creations in our lego city. I figured out that Lego himselve is grown up to 6w cars. The 4w generation is history in my opinion. But there are cars in the range with 8w (line Marvel, Heroes, Agents, Lego Movie) and thats a problem, that Lego don't know what they really want! Because for this 8w sizes a complete Lego world, will be to expensive for there endusers ;) With 8w cars, or 7w cars there are a lot of new possibilities to rebuild cars. The best, what an AFOL or MOC Builder can do, is to be flexible enought, to find a creation in all this sizes. That's what I discuss with me at this time^^ I think about to build a modell in the other sizes too. But I'm not sure at the moment and I can understand you really good^^
Many thanks for your comment! I agree, there is no scale between TLG products themselves, not even in the Town range. That's why we have to develop something for ourselves. I think 7w is quite a nice measure - you have lots of design possibilities, but the vehicles still can be combined with CC buildings. Plus it's no problem to combine 7w and 6w+ vehicles, as you can see, whereas plain 8w doesn't work within a town layout - I've tried that several times.
  July 5, 2014
I'm not sure too, wich size I will prefer for further creations in our lego city. I figured out that Lego himselve is grown up to 6w cars. The 4w generation is history in my opinion. But there are cars in the range with 8w (line Marvel, Heroes, Agents, Lego Movie) and thats a problem, that Lego don't know what they really want! Because for this 8w sizes a complete Lego world, will be to expensive for there endusers ;) With 8w cars, or 7w cars there are a lot of new possibilities to rebuild cars. The best, what an AFOL or MOC Builder can do, is to be flexible enought, to find a creation in all this sizes. That's what I discuss with me at this time^^ I think about to build a modell in the other sizes too. But I'm not sure at the moment and I can understand you really good^^
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  July 5, 2014
Quoting Henrik Hoexbroe BTW; My 2CVīs are only 4w + mudguards...
Yes I know, and that's working very well. Within this scale a 2 CV or Mini would be 5w+, but I haven't tried that yet ...
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  July 5, 2014
Quoting Henrik Hoexbroe Thanks for sharing! As with everything LEGO, itīs a question of compromises. The main culprit (IMHO) is the akward proportions of the minifigs. Ideally cars should be 5w, trucks 6w and trains 7w. My french MegaMOC adhered to these standards. But my american MegaMOC went to 6w cars, 7w trucks and 8w trains. IMHO 8w trains are too big for comfort and everything gets too big to transport to exhibitions. (-but the bigger scale is easier to construct well in...) BTW; My 2CVīs are only 4w + mudguards...
Thanks Henrik, I completely agree with what you're saying. My idea is to get a scheme that works all the time (and perhaps also within the next 3 or 4 years) so that no changes are necessary between different layouts. Considering the fact that things tend to get larger (TLG buildings, Town cars) everything may be slightly bigger than would be if there was something like a "real" minifig scale. Plus I have the obsession that figs must fit into the cars. It's a whole bunch of compromises to be made, but as long as a DeLorean isn't larger than a firetruck (which may happen when you combine Cuusoo stuff with the usual Town vehicles) things are working somehow ... ;-)
  July 5, 2014
Thanks for sharing! As with everything LEGO, itīs a question of compromises. The main culprit (IMHO) is the akward proportions of the minifigs. Ideally cars should be 5w, trucks 6w and trains 7w. My french MegaMOC adhered to these standards. But my american MegaMOC went to 6w cars, 7w trucks and 8w trains. IMHO 8w trains are too big for comfort and everything gets too big to transport to exhibitions. (-but the bigger scale is easier to construct well in...) BTW; My 2CVīs are only 4w + mudguards...
 
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